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Title: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: mypalfish on October 26, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
Walker 46
Burke 45

YouGov weighted an initial 31.1D/36.6I/32.2R (R+1.1) sample  into 35.1D/33.4I/31.4 R (D+3.7).

Walker up 4 with Independents and they show the same odd phenomenon the MU Law poll had of Walker gaining strongly with women (Burke up 3) and Burke gaining strongly with men (Walker up 6).


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 05:12:19 PM
Link?


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: mypalfish on October 26, 2014, 05:15:18 PM

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/WI_GOV_4.png


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 05:19:32 PM

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/WI_GOV_4.png

It's old, from their last wave of polls. :P

"Fieldwork: September 20 - October 1"


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: mypalfish on October 26, 2014, 05:21:31 PM

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/WI_GOV_4.png

It's old, from their last wave of polls. :P

"Fieldwork: September 20 - October 1"

No, the numbers are completely different.  The dates just weren't updated yet.  They haven't "officially" released this yet, but all the new Gov races are there.


Phil Kerpen ‏@kerpen  8m8 minutes ago
CONFIRMED: Yesterday's YouGov uploads correct except for fieldwork dates. Compare:
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/AZ_GOV_4.png …
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-25/AZ_GOV_4.png …


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 05:28:39 PM

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/WI_GOV_4.png

It's old, from their last wave of polls. :P

"Fieldwork: September 20 - October 1"

No, the numbers are completely different.  The dates just weren't updated yet.  They haven't "officially" released this yet, but all the new Gov races are there.


Phil Kerpen ‏@kerpen  8m8 minutes ago
CONFIRMED: Yesterday's YouGov uploads correct except for fieldwork dates. Compare:
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/AZ_GOV_4.png …
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-25/AZ_GOV_4.png …

Ah, I see. Is there a way to get all of the results so we can do a megathread?


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 26, 2014, 05:31:29 PM
mypalfish is responsible for this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: mypalfish on October 26, 2014, 05:32:23 PM

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/WI_GOV_4.png

It's old, from their last wave of polls. :P

"Fieldwork: September 20 - October 1"

No, the numbers are completely different.  The dates just weren't updated yet.  They haven't "officially" released this yet, but all the new Gov races are there.


Phil Kerpen ‏@kerpen  8m8 minutes ago
CONFIRMED: Yesterday's YouGov uploads correct except for fieldwork dates. Compare:
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/AZ_GOV_4.png …
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-25/AZ_GOV_4.png …

Ah, I see. Is there a way to get all of the results so we can do a megathread?

@kerpen on Twitter posted the results from a number of different races but not all, I don't think.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: mypalfish on October 26, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
mypalfish is responsible for this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0

Yes, I am.

And this poll result is still legit.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 05:41:57 PM
To get the results, paste this link into your address bar, but just change the state abbreviation (except for MN, which isn't there for some reason).

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-10-24/AL_GOV_4.png

AL: Bentley 63-25
AK: Parnell 42-39
AZ: Ducey 50-40
AR: Hutchinson 47-38 (*GAIN)
CA: Brown 55-37
CO: Hickenlooper 48-44
CT: Malloy 42-41
FL: Scott 46-45
GA: Deal 47-43
HI: Ige 54-22 (?!?!)
ID: Otter 53-35
IL: Quinn 45-41
IA: Branstad 50-37
KS: Brownback 43-40
ME: Michaud 37-35 (*GAIN)
MD: Brown 51-38
MA: Coakley 45-41
MI: Schauer 45-44 (*GAIN)
MN: Dayton 50-41
NE: Ricketts 55-35
NV: Sandoval 53-28
NH: Hassan 47-38
NM: Martinez 50-38
NY: Cuomo 56-31
OH: Kasich 54-35
OK: Fallin 56-32
OR: Kitzhaber 48-42
PA: Wolf 52-39 (*GAIN)
RI: Raimondo 40-35
SC: Haley 50-33
SD: Daugaard 54-28
TN: Haslam 58-30
TX: Abbott 57-37
VT: Shumlin 47-35
WI: Walker 46-45
WY: Mead 58-33


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Boston Bread on October 26, 2014, 05:48:05 PM
It doesn't look too outlierish actually.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Dixie Reborn on October 26, 2014, 05:50:10 PM
Switch MA with AK, then it's believable. Also, WTF is going on in Hawaii?


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2014, 06:06:13 PM
Doesn't look like there's been much movement since their last polls, unless I'm missing something.

Also I was polled by YouGov for the New York Governor race! They didn't have Hawkins as one of the options (it was Cuomo, Astorino, Other, and Undecided) so I wrote him in after selecting other.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 26, 2014, 06:07:33 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
Wow you're the "I will now accept my accolades" guy? It's an honor to meet you, Sir. You're a personal Atlas hero of mine.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 06:09:20 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

The fact that it's the same people being surveyed again makes Hawaii even more weird. Ige was up 6 in the last poll, now he's up 32? Did Aiona kill small children on live TV in the past month?


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

Yeah. A lot of races where there's supposedly been a lot of movement seem to be pretty static though (Kansas, Massachusetts, Illinois, etc.).


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 26, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

Yeah. A lot of races where there's supposedly been a lot of movement seem to be pretty static though (Kansas, Massachusetts, Illinois, etc.).

I've always assumed based on where the results started in these polls for many that this was an overly-Republican sample and that the minimal movement is because there are going to be relatively few people chip off if that's the case.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Person Man on October 26, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Again, Hick is looking good.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 26, 2014, 06:15:51 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

Yeah. A lot of races where there's supposedly been a lot of movement seem to be pretty static though (Kansas, Massachusetts, Illinois, etc.).

I've always assumed based on where the results started in these polls for many that this was an overly-Republican sample and that the minimal movement is because there are going to be relatively few people chip off if that's the case.

OMG muh unskewing!!! ...

But yeah, in reality I never got the virtue of this style of polling. I mean, I'm no fan of lv screens... but how does this method accommodate changes in turnout models-enthusiasm?


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 06:20:42 PM
Since this is surveying the same people, "momentum" since the last poll is arguably more important than the toplines, so here it is for the relevant races:

AK: R+8
AR: D+2
CO: None
CT: D+1
FL: D+2
GA: D+1
HI: D+26 (lol)
ID: D+6
IL: D+1
KS: None
ME: D+3
MD: R+4
MA: R+2
MI: R+1
MN: D+2
NH: R+1
NM: R+5
OR: R+1
PA: D+4
RI: D+2
TX: R+6
WI: R+2

I'll do it in the Senate thread in a minute.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on October 26, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
HI: Ige 54-22 (?!?!)
IL: Quinn 45-41
KS: Brownback 43-40
MA: Coakley 45-41

Has KCDem been banned or something?

JUNK POLLS!!


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Bacon King on October 26, 2014, 06:26:51 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

The fact that it's the same people being surveyed again makes Hawaii even more weird. Ige was up 6 in the last poll, now he's up 32? Did Aiona kill small children on live TV in the past month?

Probably they just had terrible response rates messing their Hawaii sample up for some reason


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 26, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Meh


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Devils30 on October 26, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
FL and KS have constantly had an R bias while the opposite seems to be the case for MA.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Eraserhead on October 26, 2014, 09:25:06 PM
These are basically useless.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: The Other Castro on October 26, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
my only guess of where the hell those HI numbers came from is that they forgot to include Aiona and just polled Ige vs Hannemann


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Miles on October 26, 2014, 09:54:28 PM
I'm skeptical Cutler is only at 7%, as I'd expected Michaud to be up more if so.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: TJ in Oregon on October 26, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
This is shaping up to be one of the closest elections in the country, though I still think Walker will end up pulling it out. He's led in more polls than Burke has over the last month. Of course they could simply be wrong. There's only one way to find out.

I'd been planning to vote on election day but perhaps I should vote early in case I drop dead between now and next Tuesday and Burke wins by one vote. :P


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Vosem on October 26, 2014, 10:35:20 PM
mypalfish is responsible for this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0

Yes, I am.

And this poll result is still legit.

Bro! Good to have you back! You should post more often.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Recalcuate on October 26, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
Remember that it's the same people being surveyed again. I see GA's margin shrank a point IIRC.

Yeah. A lot of races where there's supposedly been a lot of movement seem to be pretty static though (Kansas, Massachusetts, Illinois, etc.).

I've always assumed based on where the results started in these polls for many that this was an overly-Republican sample and that the minimal movement is because there are going to be relatively few people chip off if that's the case.

OMG muh unskewing!!! ...

But yeah, in reality I never got the virtue of this style of polling. I mean, I'm no fan of lv screens... but how does this method accommodate changes in turnout models-enthusiasm?

It looks like there is a good bit of special sauce added to their polls. If you look at the Alabama link, it seems like they adjust for gender, party affiliation and ideology. Maybe that's based on some sort of modeling as to turnout and enthusiasm.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2014, 10:58:45 PM
I'm skeptical Cutler is only at 7%, as I'd expected Michaud to be up more if so.

If other YouGov polls are anything like the one I took for New York, then they only list the two main candidates and then have an other you can check, where you're prompted to write in what "other" candidate you'll vote for. So the third party vote in these things is depressed considerably because of that.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Mr. Illini on October 27, 2014, 12:59:24 AM
This is going to be a fun one.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: user12345 on October 27, 2014, 06:57:52 AM
This will probably be the race that keeps me up very late on the 4th.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 27, 2014, 07:46:03 AM
This will probably be the race that keeps me up very late on the 4th.

Have alcohol handy.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 27, 2014, 07:47:32 AM
Aren't the undecideds on a lot of these like 20%+? I'm pretty sure that's what I saw on the table of all the polls. If so, those are trash and need to be thrown out.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Andrew1 on October 27, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
The Governors numbers are now on their website. MN is Dayton 50-41.

Lol at Governor "Steve Parnell" in AK!


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: tmthforu94 on October 27, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
This should be an exciting night - so many states could go either way.

Maryland is turning into a sleeper race, IMO. Hogan seems to have momentum and the numbers there have been tight for a while. Might be too little, too late, but we will see.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: muon2 on October 27, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
I'm skeptical Cutler is only at 7%, as I'd expected Michaud to be up more if so.

If other YouGov polls are anything like the one I took for New York, then they only list the two main candidates and then have an other you can check, where you're prompted to write in what "other" candidate you'll vote for. So the third party vote in these things is depressed considerably because of that.

That is true in IL. YouGov did not include Grimm, so it is hard to read the undecided as a true undecided vote.


Title: Re: YouGov fourth wave polls
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 28, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
So... when are you accepting those accolades?