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Election Archive => 2014 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2014, 10:56:08 PM



Title: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
Not sure if these are from the same panels as NYT/CBS or completely news ones and don't have a link yet, but these babies are hot off the presses:

#COSen Gardner +1
#IASen Braley +1
#NCSen Hagan +2
#GASen Perdue +1.5
#COGov Hick +2.5
#WIGov Walker +1.5
#FLGov tied

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/528387247767584768


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Devils30 on October 31, 2014, 11:01:20 PM
No way FL gov voters were Scott +9 in 2010. And they might want to push the undecideds by now!


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: IceSpear on October 31, 2014, 11:31:34 PM
Judging from the fact that all the numbers are very similar to the ones released last week, I'm guessing that they are indeed the same sample.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Boston Bread on November 01, 2014, 12:03:39 AM
Usually by now races start breaking for a candidate in most toss-ups. But that's not going to happen this year it seems.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Matty on November 01, 2014, 12:11:34 AM
This poll literally clears nothing up.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Senator Cris on November 01, 2014, 04:25:38 AM
#KSSen: Roberts (R) + 1,5%


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Andrew1 on November 01, 2014, 04:26:48 AM
There's a link to their final polls (https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/10/31/yougov-2014-final-pre-election-polls/) now.

"Fresh samples were drawn" they say but "As with all YouGov polls, respondents were selected from online panels."

Decimals and a ton of undecideds a few days before the election!

Brownback +0.8 is the closest they've ever shown that race.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Eraserhead on November 01, 2014, 06:48:22 AM
Might as well have made every competitive race an exact tie, lol.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Tender Branson on November 01, 2014, 12:18:12 PM
This year's YouGov polls are clearly crap.

Take KS, where Orman/Roberts only have a combined 75% in the final poll, a few days ahead of the election.

Don't know why their quality dropped so badly when compared to their 2008 and 2012 polls, which had almost no undecideds and were accurate too ...


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: RI on November 01, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
This year's YouGov polls are clearly crap.

Take KS, where Orman/Roberts only have a combined 75% in the final poll, a few days ahead of the election.

Don't know why their quality dropped so badly when compared to their 2008 and 2012 polls, which had almost no undecideds and were accurate too ...

22% undecided?? What a joke.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: New_Conservative on November 01, 2014, 12:46:08 PM
Junk polls


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: IceSpear on November 01, 2014, 03:33:38 PM
Do the writers at YouGov have a sense of humor?

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Kay Hagan and Bill Braley have leads of 2.1% and 1.0%, respectively, over their Republican challengers. But in the other four races Republicans have very slight leads: Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts leads Independent challenger Greg Orman by 1.3% (with one out of five voters still undecided!), David Perdue leads Michelle Nunn by 1.5% for the Georgia open Senate seat, and challenger Cory Gardner leads incumbent Mark Udall by a scant 0.8%. The last is a reversal from the fourth wave of the Battleground Tracker, where Udall led Gardner by a statistically insignificant 1.4%.


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: IceSpear on November 01, 2014, 03:49:16 PM
Are people embarrassed to admit they voted for Ron Johnson? In the Wisconsin sample, it says they voted for Walker by 7 points in 2010 (which is about the margin he won by), but it also says they voted for Feingold by 2 points.

Also, yeah, if an electorate that voted for the criminal by 9 points in 2010 shows a tie, say hello to Gov.-elect Crist.

On the negative side, this shows Udall losing with an electorate that went for Bennet by 3 points. Congrats Sen.-elect Gardner. Also, people seem to be SUPER embarrassed to admit they voted for Tancredo. It actually shows Maes in second place (46-22-16).


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 01, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Do the writers at YouGov have a sense of humor?

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Kay Hagan and Bill Braley have leads of 2.1% and 1.0%, respectively, over their Republican challengers. But in the other four races Republicans have very slight leads: Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts leads Independent challenger Greg Orman by 1.3% (with one out of five voters still undecided!), David Perdue leads Michelle Nunn by 1.5% for the Georgia open Senate seat, and challenger Cory Gardner leads incumbent Mark Udall by a scant 0.8%. The last is a reversal from the fourth wave of the Battleground Tracker, where Udall led Gardner by a statistically insignificant 1.4%.

Bran Brentley is closing strong!


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: ElectionAtlas on November 02, 2014, 03:03:58 AM
Lets not add these last batches - undecided are far too high.

Thanks,
Dave


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Tender Branson on November 02, 2014, 03:17:17 AM
Lets not add these last batches - undecided are far too high.

Thanks,
Dave

These have been deleted.

Enjoy !


Title: Re: New YouGov polls, get em while the goings good
Post by: Bacon King on November 02, 2014, 03:30:52 AM
There's a link to their final polls (https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/10/31/yougov-2014-final-pre-election-polls/) now.

"Fresh samples were drawn" they say but "As with all YouGov polls, respondents were selected from online panels."

Decimals and a ton of undecideds a few days before the election!

Brownback +0.8 is the closest they've ever shown that race.

This is the most blatant case I've seen this entire cycle of a pollster "massaging" the data of a bad sample to  make it appear something vaguely appearing to be based on a random sample. How in the world does a pollster show quadruple the undecided voters compared to other people's polls, but still manage to show the margins between candidates looking like everyone elses', in eleven different tossup races?