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Title: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Tender Branson on March 24, 2015, 11:12:38 AM
44-44 Bullock/Zinke
46-38 Bullock/Fox

http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-montana-polling-2/


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on March 24, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
Fox isn't running, Zinke will probably wait for 2018 and challenge Tester instead.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: free my dawg on March 24, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
Was he ever?


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Maxwell on March 24, 2015, 01:13:52 PM
Zinke is a paper tiger. I guarantee it in a race that will get closer to national attention.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Prince of Salem on March 24, 2015, 01:21:46 PM


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Zioneer on March 24, 2015, 01:26:10 PM
Bullock is one of those guys who are never safe, yet continually manage to win.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on March 24, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
Unless there's a scandal, this race will never move farther to the left that lean D and farther to the right than tossup.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 24, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
Great Gov, who mistaken appointed Walsh as Senator. But at end he will narrowly win.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Xing on March 24, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
Bullock definitely isn't safe, but I daresay he's at least slightly favored. I wish we had more to go by than just a Gravis poll, but oh well.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on March 24, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
Zinke is a paper tiger. I guarantee it in a race that will get closer to national attention.

Agreed


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 24, 2015, 11:14:10 PM
Great Gov, who mistakenly appointed Walsh Senator and is only mildly favored.

But, I do see a scenario in which Dems lose Mnt and MO, but win NC, WVa, KY and NH govs.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: The Other Castro on March 24, 2015, 11:51:33 PM
Great Gov, who mistakenly appointed Walsh Senator and is only mildly favored.

But, I do see a scenario in which Dems lose Mnt and MO, but win NC, WVa, KY and NH govs.

WV is gone.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Ebsy on March 25, 2015, 12:05:52 AM
Democrats are in really good shape in Missouri and Kentucky though.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on March 25, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Great Gov, who mistakenly appointed Walsh Senator and is only mildly favored.

But, I do see a scenario in which Dems lose Mnt and MO, but win NC, WVa, KY and NH govs.

WV is gone.

Unless Manchin runs, this.

If Manchin declines, then the only question is which republican wins the party nod, the Dem candidate has no chance.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Ebsy on March 25, 2015, 01:52:31 AM
I find a helpful guide is that if a party is thinking of running a minority leader from one of the state chambers, all hope is lost. Kansas in 2014 might have been a notable exception, but still.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: TDAS04 on March 25, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
Never though he was, but I think he'll narrowly win reelection in the end.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 26, 2015, 02:22:39 PM
Great Gov, who mistakenly appointed Walsh Senator and is only mildly favored.

But, I do see a scenario in which Dems lose Mnt and MO, but win NC, WVa, KY and NH govs.

WV is gone.

Unless Manchin runs, this.

If Manchin declines, then the only question is which republican wins the party nod, the Dem candidate has no chance.


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GOP Govs

Mnt: Gov Bullock loses due to Joe Walsh debacle INC defeated GOP pickup
IN: Gov Pence reelected
ND: Gov Darlyple reelected
UT: Gov Herbert reelected
MO: GOP pickup
MS: Gov Bryant reelected
LA: Gov Vitter elected

Dem govs

KY: Gov Conway def Cromer
WA: Gov Inslee reelected
WVA: Kessler or Manchin elected
NC: Roy Cooper def Gov McCrory   INC def Dem pickup
NH: Hassen or Kuster is elected gov or reelected
VT: Gov Shumlin reelected
DeL: Dem gov


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on March 26, 2015, 02:26:39 PM
I'm sorry, but there is really no way that the dems hold WV Gov. without Manchin running. Republicans aren't going to nominate a joke - it will either be Morrisey or McKinley getting the GOP nod.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Ebsy on March 26, 2015, 02:27:16 PM
Democrats are going to hold onto the governorship in Missouri.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on March 26, 2015, 03:00:57 PM
Democrats are going to hold onto the governorship in Missouri.

This is quite plausible, but it's far from a certainty.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on March 26, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
Dems will net lose 1 gov in a combo of Mnt, MO and KY. MNY and MO are rype for pickings.

MNY? Use understandable abbreviations, please.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 26, 2015, 08:19:22 PM
Dems will net lose 1 gov in a combo of Mnt, MO and KY. MNT and MO are rype for pickings.

MNT? Use understandable abbreviations, please.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Xing on March 27, 2015, 12:04:51 AM
I agree that WV is gone unless Manchin runs, and MO is probably Tilt or Lean R at this point. I'd say MT is Lean D, though, and NC is a toss-up.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Ebsy on March 27, 2015, 01:32:16 AM
I agree that WV is gone unless Manchin runs, and MO is probably Tilt or Lean R at this point. I'd say MT is Lean D, though, and NC is a toss-up.
Why would Missouri be lean R? The GOP's top candidate, Tom Schweich, just killed himself and the other top candidate, Catherine Hanaway, has been pretty thoroughly tied to several vicious ads against him. Also, the state Republican Party Chair, John Hancock, has been quoted by multiple GOP donors and operatives as making deragatory anti-Semetic comments about Tom Schweich. The only poll I have seen has Koster leading Hanaway by 6 points(granted, lots of undecideds), but there is no way she is gaining any popularity after Tom Schweich's death.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 27, 2015, 02:59:45 AM
MO is lean GOP, because of presidential race. NC is a tossup, because of battleground nature of state.

My map perfectly fits how I think the presidential race will gp. I have no sympathy for GOV Bullock since he made the Joe Walsh appointment, cost Dems a seat in 2014 senate.

As for WVa, it assumes Manchin runs, which I am hoping.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Ebsy on March 27, 2015, 09:37:11 AM
MO is lean GOP, because of presidential race. NC is a tossup, because of battleground nature of state.

My map perfectly fits how I think the presidential race will gp. I have no sympathy for GOV Bullock since he made the Joe Walsh appointment, cost Dems a seat in 2014 senate.

As for WVa, it assumes Manchin runs, which I am hoping.
So you don't think anything that has happened in the past month or two has had any impact on the Missouri gubernatorial race that was a toss up at best before? That's really rather ridiculous. Elections don't happen in vacuums, and the Missouri Democratic party has shown a remarkable capability to elect statewide candidates in recent years.s


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 27, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
No, MO is still a very populist state. It will go either way.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: The Other Castro on March 27, 2015, 03:00:04 PM
So Bullock will lose because you don't like him, and Manchin will win because you want him to? Ok.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 27, 2015, 03:57:16 PM
No, Bullock was always vulnerable due to the Joe Walsh appointment, and the plagerism scandal. As this poll is indicative of. 

Manchin is more so ready to retire now, and appoint Goodwin Carter to the seat. Which will be a hold, since WVa has become a GOP leaning state.  Hopefully, he takes the lead from Reid and runs for gov.


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Bojack Horseman on April 13, 2015, 11:52:36 AM


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on April 16, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
So you don't think anything that has happened in the past month or two has had any impact on the Missouri gubernatorial race that was a toss up at best before?

How many months are there until the election again?


Title: MT: Gravis Marketing: Tossup in Montana
Post by: Flake on May 10, 2015, 12:31:44 PM
New Poll: Montana Governor by Gravis Marketing on 2015-02-25 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=3020150225232)

Summary: D: 44%, R: 44%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-montana-polling-2/)


Title: Re: MT-Gravis: Gov. Bullock (D) not safe in 2016
Post by: / on June 15, 2015, 07:27:07 PM
This one seems like a real toss-up. Hopefully, Bullock will pull ahead.