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Title: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 16, 2015, 08:04:45 PM
Gravis Marketing
Nevada
Heck (R) 49%
Masto (D) 35%

http://www.oann.com/pollnevada/


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: SATW on July 16, 2015, 08:06:41 PM
lol gravis


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 16, 2015, 08:08:27 PM
Actually 2 polls showing Heck with a lead of 14, 50-36/49-35. And one showing Masto with a 1-point lead.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: SATW on July 16, 2015, 08:19:43 PM
I'm sure he's leading right now, and I hope it stays that way, but I'm a bit skeptical of Gravis' wild polling.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: free my dawg on July 17, 2015, 03:22:46 AM
Actually 2 polls showing Heck with a lead of 14, 50-36/49-35. And one showing Masto with a 1-point lead.

Two sh*t polls do not confirm a lead - especially one of that caliber.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Pandaguineapig on July 17, 2015, 06:16:22 AM
Actually 2 polls showing Heck with a lead of 14, 50-36/49-35. And one showing Masto with a 1-point lead.

Two sh*t polls do not confirm a lead - especially one of that caliber.
Everything is a guess at this point because no real polls have been taken of this race


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 17, 2015, 07:31:01 AM
Well, if he is tied in a Democratic internal poll and leading in two others by big margins, I'm sure he has a slight edge. Didn't think he would be such a good recruit.

Also, LOL@Democrats only including Democratic internals or junk polls (FL/IL) in the database.

I think that is hilarious


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 17, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
Actually 2 polls showing Heck with a lead of 14, 50-36/49-35. And one showing Masto with a 1-point lead.

Two sh*t polls do not confirm a lead - especially one of that caliber.

While 1 Democratic Internal showing the Democrat leading by 1 does not "confirm" a Democratic lead either.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Free Bird on July 17, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
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Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 17, 2015, 11:45:14 AM
Yeah, just proves this race can go either way, with Masto a slight underdog. She probable losing by about 3-4 pts.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: MT Treasurer on July 17, 2015, 06:27:15 PM
Keep in mind that Nevada voters almost elected that loathsome disgrace Shelley Berkley to the Senate. If she can come so close to beating an incumbent, I'm not so sure that Heck will have an easy time winning this seat. Ugh, NV Democrats are awful.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 17, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
However, Shelly Berkley had a scandle going. Masto is a freah face, who has been out of office for a while; whereas, Heck is an officeholder. I would give it sometime for voters to get used to Masto-Cortez.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Xing on July 17, 2015, 07:22:14 PM
Keep trying, Gravis, you'll get it right eventually. Let's wait until an accurate, non-partisan pollster polls this race before jumping to conclusions. And even then, both Masto and Heck still aren't that well known.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 18, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
However, Shelly Berkley had a scandle going. Masto is a freah face, who has been out of office for a while; whereas, Heck is an officeholder. I would give it sometime for voters to get used to Masto-Cortez.

Sure I agree, except Rep. Heck has a definite advantage of winning three times in the major media market of Las Vegas. Many in Clark county know of his name and it is probably propping up the lead at the moment.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: mds32 on July 18, 2015, 04:44:05 PM
Keep trying, Gravis, you'll get it right eventually. Let's wait until an accurate, non-partisan pollster polls this race before jumping to conclusions. And even then, both Masto and Heck still aren't that well known.

I would laugh if SurveyUSA or Suffolk showed a large lead for Heck as well. 2/3 polls give Heck a large lead at the moment. Compared to the PPP poll we have to assume then at the very least Heck has a 6-9 point lead if you average them out. It is plausible due to the media market he is in and the proximity of his congressional district in the market.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 19, 2015, 03:57:26 AM
The FL senate poll overstates Dem support. But, this poll is very surprising due to the dems strenth in OH and FL and CO.

This is the only poll showing Dems losing ground. But, NV will be a tossup a prez level, anyways☺


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: King on July 21, 2015, 12:23:44 AM
Masto will pull through on the coat-tails of The Spankening (In Theaters November 2016).


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Maxwell on July 21, 2015, 12:40:42 AM
Keep in mind that Nevada voters almost elected that loathsome disgrace Shelley Berkley to the Senate. If she can come so close to beating an incumbent, I'm not so sure that Heck will have an easy time winning this seat. Ugh, NV Democrats are awful.

Heller was an interim Incumbent, which is basically not really an incumbent.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Coolface Sock #42069 on July 23, 2015, 06:10:34 PM
Keep in mind that Nevada voters almost elected that loathsome disgrace Shelley Berkley to the Senate. If she can come so close to beating an incumbent, I'm not so sure that Heck will have an easy time winning this seat. Ugh, NV Democrats are awful.

Heller was an interim Incumbent, which is basically not really an incumbent.
Not as far as predicting elections goes. They have about the same win/loss records as people running for open seats.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Green Line on July 23, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Is there any data to show how well appointed incumbents do compared to actual incumbents?  Neither Heller nor Berkley had been on the ballot statewide before.  Berkley probably had an advantage because her district was so overpopulated at the time so she was representing more voters.


Title: Re: Gravis-NV Heck has large advantage
Post by: Coolface Sock #42069 on July 23, 2015, 06:18:56 PM
Is there any data to show how well appointed incumbents do compared to actual incumbents?  Neither Heller nor Berkley had been on the ballot statewide before.  Berkley probably had an advantage because her district was so overpopulated at the time so she was representing more voters.
Larry Sabato had something about it when he was talking about the 2014 Montana Senate race right after John Walsh was appointed to the seat, but I don't remember how in-depth it got.