Title: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: RogueBeaver on July 29, 2015, 08:26:48 AM Leads all Pubs comfortably. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_IL_72915.pdf)
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: JRP1994 on July 29, 2015, 08:28:37 AM Walker has a 64/15 favorable rating in IL. Interesting.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: mencken on July 29, 2015, 08:31:26 AM ~10 point leads seem more suggestive of a Kerry/Gore-esque performance than either of Obama's wins (granted the home state effect was strong in his first election). Either Hillary is a paper tiger or the Midwest is trending Republican even faster than I thought.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Illini on July 29, 2015, 08:35:30 AM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error
Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Illini on July 29, 2015, 08:37:23 AM Walker has a 64/15 favorable rating in IL. Interesting. Q21 Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Scott Walker? Favorable 32% Unfavorable 38% Not sure 30% Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Morden on July 29, 2015, 08:37:43 AM Walker has a 64/15 favorable rating in IL. Interesting. That's only among Republicans. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mehmentum on July 29, 2015, 08:42:23 AM Same sample that gives Obama a 47%-46% (+1) approval gives Clinton a 45%-47% (-2) favorable. PPP doesn't appear to be picking up on any Clinton favorability crash.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Morden on July 29, 2015, 08:47:04 AM Same sample that gives Obama a 47%-46% (+1) approval gives Clinton a 45%-47% (-2) favorable. PPP doesn't appear to be picking up on any Clinton favorability crash. Isn't 45%/47% for Clinton a rather poor showing, given how Democratic the state is? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: ElectionsGuy on July 29, 2015, 08:49:26 AM Same sample that gives Obama a 47%-46% (+1) approval gives Clinton a 45%-47% (-2) favorable. PPP doesn't appear to be picking up on any Clinton favorability crash. Isn't 45%/47% for Clinton a rather poor showing, given how Democratic the state is? Yes. At this point the election is "who do you not like the least"? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mehmentum on July 29, 2015, 09:04:01 AM Same sample that gives Obama a 47%-46% (+1) approval gives Clinton a 45%-47% (-2) favorable. PPP doesn't appear to be picking up on any Clinton favorability crash. Isn't 45%/47% for Clinton a rather poor showing, given how Democratic the state is? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Maxwell on July 29, 2015, 09:06:40 AM Her leads are pretty weak for Illinois. Maybe the Obama bump was big.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Morden on July 29, 2015, 09:10:45 AM Clinton 48%
Bush 39% Sanders 42% Bush 37% Clinton 49% Carson 37% Clinton 49% Christie 35% Clinton 51% Cruz 35% Clinton 49% Fiorina 34% Clinton 51% Huckabee 35% Clinton 47% Paul 37% Clinton 49% Rubio 37% Clinton 51% Trump 33% Sanders 48% Trump 32% Clinton 50% Walker 39% Sanders 40% Walker 36% Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Torie on July 29, 2015, 09:33:52 AM ~10 point leads seem more suggestive of a Kerry/Gore-esque performance than either of Obama's wins (granted the home state effect was strong in his first election). Either Hillary is a paper tiger or the Midwest is trending Republican even faster than I thought. Yes, 10 points in Illinois is a very pedestrian lead (and it's the state Hillary grew up in). The favorite son effect for Obama, largely wore off in 2012, and yet he won by close to 20 points. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Torie on July 29, 2015, 09:34:52 AM ~10 point leads seem more suggestive of a Kerry/Gore-esque performance than either of Obama's wins (granted the home state effect was strong in his first election). Either Hillary is a paper tiger or the Midwest is trending Republican even faster than I thought. Yes, 10 points in Illinois is a very pedestrian lead (and it's the state Hillary grew up in). The favorite son effect for Obama, largely wore off in 2012, and yet he won by 17 points. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Skye on July 29, 2015, 10:11:43 AM Nice to see Bush trailing by less than 10.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: MT Treasurer on July 29, 2015, 11:24:33 AM If she wins the state by a Kerry 2004 margin, it might suggest good news for Republicans in PA.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Landslide Lyndon on July 29, 2015, 02:44:01 PM If she wins the state by a Kerry 2004 margin, it might suggest good news for Republicans in PA. Kerry won Pennsylvania in 2004. And Hillary is a much better fit there than Obama. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 29, 2015, 02:48:29 PM Clinton wont lose Pa.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 29, 2015, 07:02:15 PM PA is indeed part of the 272 blue wall, and it is a swing blue state; like OH is a swing red state; and CO is the purple state.
Ask Wolf, Corbett came within six of winning and the race was put away long time before election night☺ Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Skye on July 29, 2015, 07:19:06 PM PA is indeed part of the 272 blue wall, and it is a swing blue state; like OH is a swing red state; and CO is the purple state. Ask Wolf, Corbett came within six of winning and the race was put away long time before election night☺ BTW didn't Corbett lose by 10? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 29, 2015, 07:27:59 PM Wolf won by 9, but Corbett exceeded expectations, he was down by 15 or more most of time.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: DrScholl on July 29, 2015, 07:36:31 PM Unskew for PPP's liberal bias and you have a dead heat. What a shock poll.
Seriously, Clinton will outperform Kerry here, but probably do slightly less well than Obama. Downstate has trended Republican, but the metro area isn't getting any redder and is pretty much stagnant. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Higgs on July 30, 2015, 02:50:11 AM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 30, 2015, 03:04:52 AM If she wins the state by a Kerry 2004 margin, it might suggest good news for Republicans in PA. And Hillary is a much better fit there than Obama. This might have been true in 2008, but not today. If she's such a better fit than Obama, why isn't she polling better than Obama 2012 there? She's currently at Kerry 2004 numbers in PA. Well polling almost 16 months from an election is usually BS anyhow... Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Free Bird on July 30, 2015, 05:09:06 AM Oh, the sky is a nice shade of blue today...
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Landslide Lyndon on July 30, 2015, 05:53:49 AM Actually as I read at DKE this is pretty much the same result Hillary got in 2008 when polled against McCain.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Illini on July 30, 2015, 07:22:12 AM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Any reason for that outside of Republican wet dreaming? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Xing on July 30, 2015, 11:28:33 AM Polling in solidly Democratic/Republican states often makes the states seem like they'll be closer than they actually end up (see WA, OR, CA, CT, AR, KY, WV, TN, etc.) I'm pretty confident Clinton will win IL by double digits, unless 2016 is a Republican massacre.
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Higgs on July 30, 2015, 02:03:00 PM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Any reason for that outside of Republican wet dreaming? Republicans doing better with blue collar whites and growing suburbia. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: RFayette on July 30, 2015, 08:09:21 PM Walker has a 64/15 favorable rating in IL. Interesting. No, it's 32/38. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: fenrir on July 31, 2015, 12:33:00 PM "Whatever."
The more interesting and relevant Illinois race is Kirk vs. Duckworth. I don't see how Duckworth doesn't pull through due to the timing of the general election, though Kirk is a fierce campaigner. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: pbrower2a on August 01, 2015, 09:10:54 AM The Kirk campaign of 2010 was dirty -- including an attempt to link a Greek-American opponent to the Sicilian Mafia.
Are there any Greek-American crime syndicates? Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Nyvin on August 01, 2015, 12:12:40 PM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Any reason for that outside of Republican wet dreaming? Republicans doing better with blue collar whites and growing suburbia. By the time Illinois is competitive North Carolina and Georgia would be solid democratic states.... Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 01, 2015, 01:03:06 PM None of Kerry-Gore states of 242 electors will vote R. Including MI, IL or Pa
Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Mr. Illini on August 01, 2015, 07:41:50 PM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Any reason for that outside of Republican wet dreaming? Oh yeah, I forgot that every state is trending Democratic. Some a little bit faster than others of course. Thanks for reminding us. I didn't make that claim, and wouldn't. You on the other hand did claim that Illinois will be competitive in the near future, so you should probably back that up. Title: Re: IL-PPP: Hillary dominating Post by: Kingpoleon on August 02, 2015, 06:39:21 PM Sanders is also leading all Pubs outside the margin of error Just in case anyone got any ideas of a competitive Illinois in the future Maybe by like 2028 or 2032 I can definitely see it being competitibe. Any reason for that outside of Republican wet dreaming? Oh yeah, I forgot that every state is trending Democratic. Some a little bit faster than others of course. Thanks for reminding us. I didn't make that claim, and wouldn't. You on the other hand did claim that Illinois will be competitive in the near future, so you should probably back that up. 9-point lead. That said, wow. If Kirk steps up his game, he might make Illinois a lot more favorable for Republicans come 2016. That coul have... Interesting effects on Representative elections. |