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Title: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: YPestis25 on August 29, 2015, 05:12:20 PM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2015/08/29/iowa-poll-democrats-august/71387664/

Clinton-37
Sanders-30
Biden-14
O'Malley-3
Webb-2
Chafee-1
Uncommited-6
Not Sure-8

Without Biden in, Clinton only leads Sanders 43-35.

Margin of error is 4.9.


Title: Re: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on August 29, 2015, 05:13:39 PM
The closest Sanders has been in any other poll is down 19.

538 rated this one A+.


Title: Clinton under 40%
Post by: CapoteMonster on August 29, 2015, 05:13:51 PM


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Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: / on August 29, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
Nice


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: An American Tail: Fubart Goes West on August 29, 2015, 05:25:13 PM
But clearly, because of reasons, Hillary is still inevitable.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on August 29, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
Even when Sanders wins the first three events, he will still be getting thrashed thanks to superdelegates.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on August 29, 2015, 05:38:01 PM
#GOSANDERS
#HILLARYNOTINEVITABLE
#SCREWYOU,HARRYENTEN

Even when Sanders wins the first three events, he will still be getting thrashed thanks to superdelegates.

Not necessarily. If Sanders has the advantage in pledged delegates come May, the superdelegates will go for him, just as they did for Obama despite originally being coalesced around Clinton. Of course, to get that advantage, he'd have to have some considerable appeal among non-whites, and that hasn't happened yet. But it could given time.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: The Other Castro on August 29, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
Even when Sanders wins the first three events, he will still be getting thrashed thanks to superdelegates.

If he wins the first three states, the next three become a lot easier (and the next three, and the next three, and the next three, and the next three...)


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2015, 06:16:47 PM
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Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on August 29, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
Even when Sanders wins the first three events, he will still be getting thrashed thanks to superdelegates.

If he wins the first three states, the next three become a lot easier (and the next three, and the next three, and the next three, and the next three...)

Seriously hope you are right, but 76 point deficits in the South will require serious Hillary derailment. I'll join the dreamers though.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: henster on August 29, 2015, 06:26:12 PM
I really don't understand how more serious Dems aren't thinking about getting in and I'm not talking about Joe Biden. If someone like Amy Klobuchar runs I think it's game over for her.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Eraserhead on August 29, 2015, 06:52:15 PM
I warned you guys about what what can happen in a lily white caucus state...

Hillary better run up those numbers in South Carolina.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Oak Hills on August 29, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
I really don't understand how more serious Dems aren't thinking about getting in and I'm not talking about Joe Biden. If someone like Amy Klobuchar runs I think it's game over for her.

Did you even look at the graphics Morden posted?  It clearly shows that the support for Sanders and Biden is about Sanders and Biden, not Hillary.  Another mainstream Democrat jumping in would get no traction, as evidenced by O'Malley's three percent.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on August 29, 2015, 07:19:15 PM
I really don't understand how more serious Dems aren't thinking about getting in and I'm not talking about Joe Biden. If someone like Amy Klobuchar runs I think it's game over for her.

Does anybody even know the name Amy Klobuchar, and why would the media even give her the time of day? They pumped up Jim Webb for months, and he got nowhere.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Eraserhead on August 29, 2015, 07:35:20 PM
I really don't understand how more serious Dems aren't thinking about getting in and I'm not talking about Joe Biden. If someone like Amy Klobuchar runs I think it's game over for her.

Does anybody even know the name Amy Klobuchar, and why would the media even give her the time of day? They pumped up Jim Webb for months, and he got nowhere.

Yeah, unless a huge star like Gore or Warren randomly jumps in, it's Clinton v. Sanders v. Biden and that's it.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Fusionmunster on August 29, 2015, 08:00:40 PM
Ehhh.....heres hoping Hillary is hitting her floor. That is a big margin of error though, not gonna lie.



Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Mehmentum on August 29, 2015, 08:01:46 PM
Surprising, considering most other polls have Clinton holding up well in Iowa.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Ljube on August 29, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Bye Hillary!



Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 30, 2015, 05:13:00 AM

The debates haven't started yet. Unlike Aug Debates when presumed frontrunner Jeb stumbled; Trump clearly won the debate. Hilary wont make that mistake.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on August 30, 2015, 07:58:21 AM
Surprising, considering most other polls have Clinton holding up well in Iowa.

Yeah, let's wait for some confirmation.
Also, this poll shows that there is no erosion in her popularity among Democrats and that they don't care much about the e-mail thing.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Tender Branson on August 30, 2015, 08:21:13 AM
Excellent.

Bernie keeps on surging, while Hilldog keeps on slowly collapsing.

We'll see how things change if she in fact loses both IA and NH ...


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Tender Branson on August 30, 2015, 08:39:53 AM
Oct. 2007 Selzer poll: Clinton+7 vs. Obama (up 6 vs. Edwards)

Aug. 2015 Selzer poll: Clinton+7 vs. Sanders

...

Sanders is already doing as well as Obama, but 2 months earlier ...


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 30, 2015, 10:46:10 AM
Tom Harkin endorsed Clinton; whether or not Biden jumps in; his endorsement of Clinton or entry into race will hurt Sanders. But, SC is Clinton wall state.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Horsemask on August 30, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
Oct. 2007 Selzer poll: Clinton+7 vs. Obama (up 6 vs. Edwards)

Aug. 2015 Selzer poll: Clinton+7 vs. Sanders

...

Sanders is already doing as well as Obama, but 2 months earlier ...

Interesting! The democratic nomination process might be a little more fun than initially thought.


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Kingpoleon on August 30, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
Biden! Help us!


Title: Re: Des Moines Register: Sanders Within 7 of Clinton in Iowa
Post by: Flake on August 30, 2015, 05:51:13 PM
Excellent.

Bernie keeps on surging, while Hilldawg keeps on slowly collapsing.

We'll see how things change if she in fact loses both IA and NH ...

ftfy


Title: IA PrimD: Selzer & Co: Clinton Leads in Iowa
Post by: ElectionAtlas on August 30, 2015, 07:15:04 PM
New Poll: Iowa President by Selzer & Co on 2016-08-26 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1920160826040)

Summary:
Clinton:
37%
Sanders:
30%
Biden:
14%
Other:
5%
Undecided:
14%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2015/08/29/iowa-poll-democrats-august/71387664/)