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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: Mr. Morden on September 08, 2015, 07:18:24 pm



Title: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 08, 2015, 07:18:24 pm
PPP poll of South Carolina:

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article34403052.html

Dems

Clinton 54%
Biden 24%
Sanders 9%
O’Malley 2%
Webb 2%
Chafee 1%

GOP

Trump 37%
Carson 21%
Bush 6%
Cruz 6%
Fiorina 4%
Kasich 4%
Rubio 4%
Graham 3%
Huckabee 3%
Paul 3%
Walker 3%
Santorum 2%
Christie 1%
Jindal 1%
Perry 1%
Gilmore 0%
Pataki 0%


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Crumpets on September 08, 2015, 07:20:05 pm
First post-announcement PPP poll doesn't include Lessig. Tsk tsk tsk.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Eraserhead on September 08, 2015, 07:37:06 pm
Sanders doesn't have a chance in hell here, so go Joe!


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Cory Booker on September 08, 2015, 07:58:35 pm
Its only a matter of time before Biden leads in Iowa and then winning SC.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Skye on September 08, 2015, 09:00:28 pm
Lol Bernie isn't getting past here.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Cory Booker on September 09, 2015, 02:08:26 am
Lol look at Jeb. SC was suppose to give him the nomination; like it did Dubya over Forbes.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on September 09, 2015, 02:22:04 am
Didn't Bernie Sanders talking about going to the South to try and win over working class whites? 


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: PJ on September 09, 2015, 02:26:36 am
Didn't Bernie Sanders talking about going to the South to try and win over working class whites? 

He did, but his campaign really doesn't reflect something that would appeal to Southern whites. Not to mention that Sanders is struggling with African Americans as well, which is the more important demographic in SC.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 09, 2015, 06:39:28 am
Didn't Bernie Sanders talking about going to the South to try and win over working class whites? 

Not with Trump in the race he won't.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Mehmentum on September 09, 2015, 06:49:51 am
Didn't Bernie Sanders talking about going to the South to try and win over working class whites? 
Southern working class whites vote Republican, and probably support Trump.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: The Mikado on September 09, 2015, 08:45:28 am
Your average Democratic Primary voters in SC are not white Southerners anyway. That gets at the heart of the difference between Obama's campaign and this: Obama successfully got white liberals, the young, and blacks together as a winning coalition, but Sanders lacks one of those groups.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: (CT) The Free North on September 09, 2015, 10:13:16 am
This must obviously be due to Trumps phenomenal relationship with 'the blacks'.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Lizzzard on September 09, 2015, 02:52:32 pm
Can anyone explain to me why Sanders is repeatedly at around 25% in GA, but only at around 10% in SC ?

The Dem. primary electorate should be roughly the same in both states, no ? 60% minorities and 40% Whites. So, why the big difference between the two states ?


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Kingpoleon on September 09, 2015, 03:22:22 pm
This must obviously be due to Trumps phenomenal relationship with 'the blacks'.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Dr. RI on September 09, 2015, 03:28:50 pm
Can anyone explain to me why Sanders is repeatedly at around 25% in GA, but only at around 10% in SC ?

The Dem. primary electorate should be roughly the same in both states, no ? 60% minorities and 40% Whites. So, why the big difference between the two states ?

Lot more liberal whites in the Atlanta area than in any of South Carolina.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: The Mikado on September 09, 2015, 03:39:52 pm
Can anyone explain to me why Sanders is repeatedly at around 25% in GA, but only at around 10% in SC ?

The Dem. primary electorate should be roughly the same in both states, no ? 60% minorities and 40% Whites. So, why the big difference between the two states ?

Lot more liberal whites in the Atlanta area than in any of South Carolina.

Also GA is home to many higher-income, highly-educated blacks.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 09, 2015, 03:42:55 pm
Full poll is out:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/09/sc-republicans-to-graham-drop-out.html

Head-to-head GOP matchups:

Trump 66%
Bush 27%

Carson 46%
Trump 45%

Trump 56%
Fiorina 32%

Trump 72%
Graham 20%

Trump 58%
Rubio 35%

Trump 59%
Walker 31%

Other questions for GOP primary voters:

Was Barack Obama born in the US?
yes 26%
no 50%
not sure 24%

Is Barack Obama a Christian or a Muslim?
Muslim 60%
Christian 12%
not sure 28%

Do you approve of presidential candidates speaking Spanish to Hispanic audiences?
yes 40%
no 44%
not sure 16%

Do you support building a wall on the US border with Canada?
yes 21%
no 60%
not sure 19%

Carson leads among those not sure if Obama was born in the US, while Trump leads among all other demographic groups.

On the Dem. side, Sanders gets 17% among whites and 3% among blacks.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: JonathanSwift on September 09, 2015, 04:20:43 pm

Words cannot describe the sheer beauty of this datum. It is at times like these that we must be thankful to God for allowing us to live during this moment of history.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: President Griffin on September 12, 2015, 12:53:43 am
Can anyone explain to me why Sanders is repeatedly at around 25% in GA, but only at around 10% in SC ?

The Dem. primary electorate should be roughly the same in both states, no ? 60% minorities and 40% Whites. So, why the big difference between the two states ?

It's a bit confusing to me as well, considering this. (http://i.imgur.com/dolWh3v.png)

Lot more liberal whites in the Atlanta area than in any of South Carolina.

I suppose this makes sense, but it's not as if Democratic presidential primaries are going to feature radically different groups of whites between the two states. Even if the whites who vote in the SC Democratic primary are less cosmopolitan and more rural, they're not necessarily likely to be substantially more conservative than the ones in GA (even with ATL's influence on GA, whites in SC are about 4 points more Democratic than in GA (http://www.whitdem.org/2012WhiteVote.html)).


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Maxwell on September 12, 2015, 08:05:26 pm
Oh wow, I did not expect Lindsey Graham to sink this low IN HIS HOME STATE. Disaster.

Could he drop out before the first primary? I think so.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: True Federalist on September 12, 2015, 08:44:54 pm
I have some friends who are fairly connected in Democratic politics here. Hillary learned from 2008 and took the time and effort to lock up in advance the opinion leaders here rather than depend upon her inevitability as she did then. However she probably hasn't put much effort into Georgia yet since their primary isn't until March.


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: Nat. Sec. Council Member Dwarven Dragon on September 13, 2015, 02:19:12 am
I have some friends who are fairly connected in Democratic politics here. Hillary learned from 2008 and took the time and effort to lock up in advance the opinion leaders here rather than depend upon her inevitability as she did then. However she probably hasn't put much effort into Georgia yet since their primary isn't until May.

Georgia's primary is on super Tuesday in March...


Title: Re: SC-PPP: D: Clinton 54% Biden 24%; R: Trump 37% Carson 21% Bush 6% Cruz 6%
Post by: True Federalist on September 13, 2015, 07:13:24 am
I see I confused Georgia's general primary and presidential primary.  I'm not as worried about politics as some of my friends.  Still, Georgia is not one of the first fab four.