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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Skye on January 08, 2016, 03:50:45 PM



Title: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Skye on January 08, 2016, 03:50:45 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NH_10816.pdf

And Trump fares the worst.

vs Clinton

Clinton 45
Rubio 42

Clinton 46
Bush 40

Clinton 48
Cruz 40

Clinton 59
Carson 39

Clinton 50
Trump 36

vs Sanders

Sanders 50
Bush 38

Sanders 51
Rubio 37

Sanders 53
Carson 34

Sanders 54
Cruz 34

Sanders 54
Cruz 34

3 WAY!

Clinton 43
Rubio 29
Trump 20

Clinton 47
Cruz 28
Trump 18

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Public Policy Polling surveyed 1,036 registered voters from January 4th to 6th. The margin of
error for the survey is +/-3.0%. 80% of participants, selected through a list based sample,
responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the
survey over the internet through an opt-in internet panel


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on January 08, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RINO Tom on January 08, 2016, 04:14:07 PM
Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.

Mhm.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Nyvin on January 08, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Pretty impressive poll for Sanders actually.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: / on January 08, 2016, 04:46:03 PM
Good, good.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on January 08, 2016, 04:47:26 PM
In b4 TNVolunteer does whatever he does.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RI on January 08, 2016, 04:52:20 PM
The Clinton/Carson number should be 50-39, not 59-39


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Free Bird on January 08, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
Even if I'm not shocked if the Democrats win New Hampshire, this seems a bit generous still


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: EliteLX on January 08, 2016, 05:17:10 PM
But muh "white independents LOVE trump!"

These are exactly on par with how I would imagine the real numbers to look for just about all candidates on November 8th. No surprise here.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Cruzcrew on January 08, 2016, 08:54:02 PM
Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.
Or he's not a good fit for secular moderates? Where did you get the idea of racial tensions there?


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on January 08, 2016, 09:06:37 PM
Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.
Or he's not a good fit for secular moderates? Where did you get the idea of racial tensions there?

Is it not common knowledge that Boston has the most racial tension in the northeast?


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 08, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Pretty impressive poll for Sanders actually.

Especially given that PPP is not very friendly to Bernie in the primary. His primary margin is 16 points better in the Fox poll.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Tender Branson on January 09, 2016, 01:41:48 AM
Notice how Bernie does an average of 10 points better than Hillary against the top-3 Republicans.

He leads them by an average of 18% (!), while Hillary only leads them by 8%.

Also, Sanders' favorable ratings in NH are the only ones in positive territory:

55-35 Sanders
39-53 Clinton
34-49 Rubio
31-54 Cruz
30-64 Trump

Which re-inforces the point that Sanders is our last hope: He's doing wayyyy better than Hillary in states where both have roughly 100% name recogntion.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Maxwell on January 09, 2016, 01:46:12 AM
TNVolunteer may have a point about New Hampshire after all.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Hillary pays minimum wage on January 09, 2016, 01:46:59 AM
PPP is PPP (D) so it's always favoring Democrats.  Polls in general show Democrats leading in most places so I'm not impressed.  Show me something the night before the election that has a proportional number of voters from both parties.  Bush Sr. and his son were always losing in polls and they did very well.  Mondale and Dukakis led by 17 once each.  Ask Hillary Clinton how well leading in the polls going into the primaries did for her.  Lastly, NH has only 4 EV and it's more likely it'll go Democrat as it has since 2000 so is any of this worth posting?


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: pbrower2a on January 09, 2016, 02:03:25 AM
PPP is PPP (D) so it's always favoring Democrats.  Polls in general show Democrats leading in most places so I'm not impressed.  Show me something the night before the election that has a proportional number of voters from both parties.  Bush Sr. and his son were always losing in polls and they did very well.  Mondale and Dukakis led by 17 once each.  Ask Hillary Clinton how well leading in the polls going into the primaries did for her.  Lastly, NH has only 4 EV and it's more likely it'll go Democrat as it has since 2000 so is any of this worth posting?

PPP is one of the best traditional pollsters operating in multiple states. If anything it usually has a slight R bias in results.

Dislike the results? Tough. Results that swing from one poll to another may reflect events more than anything else.

It may be 'only' New Hampshire... but it confirms what I thought could be happening, including the collapse of the Carson campaign and  the weakening credibility of Donald Trump.

We may be getting some indications of how some other states are going. This weekend, PPP reports on Iowa. In the middle of the week we will have two PPP polls about states that have both gone R one time in the last six Presidential elections.   


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: madelka on January 09, 2016, 03:48:44 AM
I agree with TNVol here. Those are terrible numbers for Republicans. They shouldn't really bother with NH unless 2016 turns out to be a Republican wave (lol).


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: madelka on January 09, 2016, 03:50:07 AM
Even if I'm not shocked if the Democrats win New Hampshire, this seems a bit generous still

Why do you have NH colored blue on your map? lol


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on January 09, 2016, 05:19:25 AM
Polling is about to start in early prumaries and voters are begining to pay attention. Dems are gonna make up ground on the GOP now, NH is a Lean D state.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Torie on January 09, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
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At this point, New Hampshire is about as competitive as Vermont and Hawaii. There really is no difference anymore.

Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.

Mhm.

He's a black man, did you expect him to poll well in NH? lol Those angry white women know how to stick it to the black guy and the Hispanic boy!

You're not one of those posters who thinks that PPP has a Dem bias I take it. Right? Myself, I have no opinion on the matter, but many posters seem to. Or is it only outside NH that PPP has a Dem bias. :)


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Cruzcrew on January 09, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.
Or he's not a good fit for secular moderates? Where did you get the idea of racial tensions there?

Is it not common knowledge that Boston has the most racial tension in the northeast?
Haven't heard of it in New Jersey.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Cruzcrew on January 09, 2016, 10:04:35 AM
New Hampshire is inelastic and only has 4 electoral votes. There's better places to spend republican resources in a general election.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Devils30 on January 09, 2016, 11:39:47 AM
Cruz is a terrible fit for non-religious NH.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Cruzcrew on January 09, 2016, 04:08:01 PM
Cruz is a terrible fit for non-religious NH.
Very much so. The evangelical percentage of the state is very low.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RR1997 on January 09, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
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At this point, New Hampshire is about as competitive as Vermont and Hawaii. There really is no difference anymore.

Carson's low numbers may be an unfortunate result of racial tension in the Boston suburbs.

Mhm.

He's a black man, did you expect him to poll well in NH? lol Those angry white women know how to stick it to the black guy and the Hispanic boy!

Why has TNVolunteer been getting away with posting such sexist comments? Why isn't anyone doing anything about this?


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RR1997 on January 09, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
TNVolunteer's needs to stop making sexist comments about NH women (who are apparently "angry" and "misandric")


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 09, 2016, 11:30:21 PM
NH is Sanders country!


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Hillary pays minimum wage on January 10, 2016, 01:09:01 AM
Cruz is a terrible fit for non-religious NH.

Iowa and South Carolina are better fits for him. You're right.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RR1997 on January 10, 2016, 07:43:59 AM
TNVolunteer's needs to stop making sexist comments about NH women (who are apparently "angry" and "misandric")

Does that offend you? I'm so sorry, really. But coming from someone who frequently makes threads like this..

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=215230.0

...that's a compliment. Also, use the ignore button if it bothers you instead of whining about it.

That thread was a joke

Also, I think you're a great poster, so I would never ignore you. I just think your sexist comments need to stop.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: Torie on January 10, 2016, 08:58:34 AM
TNVolunteer's needs to stop making sexist comments about NH women (who are apparently "angry" and "misandric")

Does that offend you? I'm so sorry, really. But coming from someone who frequently makes threads like this..

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=215230.0

...that's a compliment. Also, use the ignore button if it bothers you instead of whining about it.

That thread was a joke

Also, I think you're a great poster, so I would never ignore you. I just think your sexist comments need to stop.

Okay, but chill, man. I've edited the post. ;) Also, its not intended to be sexist, I dislike most NH residents, whether they're men or women.  :)

Why do you dislike NH residents again? What do you think of Columbia County, NY residents? :)


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: RR1997 on January 10, 2016, 09:15:12 AM
TNVolunteer's needs to stop making sexist comments about NH women (who are apparently "angry" and "misandric")

Does that offend you? I'm so sorry, really. But coming from someone who frequently makes threads like this..

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=215230.0

...that's a compliment. Also, use the ignore button if it bothers you instead of whining about it.

That thread was a joke

Also, I think you're a great poster, so I would never ignore you. I just think your sexist comments need to stop.

Okay, but chill, man. I've edited the post. ;) Also, its not intended to be sexist, I dislike most NH residents, whether they're men or women.  :)

It's ok. We're cool.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: MT Treasurer on January 11, 2016, 12:57:31 PM
Why do you dislike NH residents again?

B-b-b-b-b-b-but Free Bird and Larry Sabato told me New Hampshire is a super-duper-mega-ultra-turbo-elastic-libertarian-and-independent swing state! :'(

Lol, you're so annoying about this.  The GOP frontrunner is down 2% and Kasich is leading, so it's not a battleground?

What did NH do to you?

Oh nothing, I just don't like the state's politics. Get over it. NH is full of elitist leftists, Democrats (and some Republicans as well) masquerading as Independents, faux moderates, sexists (yes, you saw that right), annoying Independents who have no ideology whatsoever and get swayed so easily that it's both hilarious and pathetic, voters who give corrupt power-hungry politcians like Maggie Hassan a 70% approval rating, etc. etc. I could go on and on. I actually consider ME to be the "real" NH. It's much more independent and I hope the Republicans will be able to compete there one day :) Oh, and the media constantly fellating NH makes the state even more terrible. Is that enough for you or should I go on? :)

Btw: Put NH in the "If it wasn't for the people living there..." category of states.

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What do you think of Columbia County, NY residents? :)

Definitely one of the better parts of Upstate NY. :) Nice sig, btw.


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: DS0816 on January 11, 2016, 06:48:04 PM
New Hampshire is inelastic and only has 4 electoral votes. There's better places to spend republican resources in a general election.

Like in Donald Trump's home state New York!


Title: Re: NH-PPP: Dems up
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 11, 2016, 08:15:54 PM
Facts from this poll: 83% of people in NH support Criminal background checks and support people on the terrorist watch list to not purchase a gun. 47-40 support Obamacare. Sanders gets 22% of Romney voters to see him as favorable to only 7% for Clinton. 62-23 from Moderates and 55-33 from Independents. As for Clinton it is a horrible 39-49 unfavorable and 33-54 from Independents. This is the best chance for the general???