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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: Mr. Morden on January 10, 2016, 09:23:53 AM



Title: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 10, 2016, 09:23:53 AM
NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of Iowa and NH:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-even-in-early-races-poll-finds-1452434581

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Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Tender Branson on January 10, 2016, 09:26:51 AM
IA-Dems:

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On the Democratic side, frontrunner Hillary Clinton holds just a three-point lead among likely voters over Bernie Sanders, 48 percent to 45 percent, while Martin O'Malley gets 5 percent.

But among potential Democratic caucus-goers, Clinton's advantage grows to six points, 49 percent to 43 percent. (In October, Clinton's lead here was 11 points, 47 percent to 36 percent.)

IA-GOP:

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In Iowa, which holds its caucuses on Feb. 1, Ted Cruz leads Donald Trump by four points among likely caucus-goers, 28 percent to 24 percent - within the poll's margin of error of plus-minus 4.6 percentage points. They're followed by Marco Rubio at 13 percent and Ben Carson at 11 percent. No other Republican candidate gets more than 5 percent of the vote.

Yet among the larger universe of potential Iowa caucus-goers, Trump actually leads Cruz by two points, 26 percent to 24 percent, suggesting that a larger turnout could benefit Trump in the state. (Back in October's NBC/WSJ/Marist poll, Trump was at 24 percent among potential caucus-goers, Carson at 19 percent, and Cruz and Rubio at just 6 percent.)

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NH-Dems:

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In the Democratic race, Sanders is ahead of Clinton by four points among likely primary voters, 50 percent to 46 percent, which is within the margin of error of plus-minus 4.8 percentage points. O'Malley is at 1 percent.

Among the larger universe of potential Democratic primary voters, Sanders' lead increases to six points, 50 percent to 44 percent. In October, the Vermont senator held a nine-point lead over Clinton.

NH-GOP:

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In New Hampshire, which holds its presidential primaries on Feb. 9, Trump gets support from 30 percent of likely Republican primary voters.

He's followed by Marco Rubio at 14 percent, Chris Christie at 12 percent, Ted Cruz at 10 percent, and John Kasich and Jeb Bush tied at 9 percent each.

That means that the four Republicans vying in the establishment lane of the GOP contest - Rubio, Christie, Kasich and Bush - are dividing up 44 percent of the total vote, according to the NBC/WSJ/Marist poll.

The GOP numbers are essentially unchanged among the larger pool of potential Republican voters in New Hampshire.

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The NBC/WSJ/Marist polls were conducted Jan. 2-7. In Iowa, the poll measured 2,821 registered voters (+/- 1.8], 1,094 potential GOP caucus-goers (+/- 3.0%), 456 likely GOP caucus-goers (+/- 4.6%), 977 potential Democratic caucus-goers (+/- 3.1%) and 422 likely Dem caucus-goers (+/- 4.8%)

In New Hampshire, the poll measured 1,888 registered voters (+/- 2.3%), 887 potential GOP primary voters (+/- 3.3%), 569 likely GOP primary voters (+/- 4.1%), 690 potential Dem primary voters (+/- 3.7%) and 425 likely Dem primary voters (+/- 4.8%).

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-neck-neck-2016-races-iowa-new-hampshire-n493361


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Tender Branson on January 10, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
Oh yeah, the chick's feeling the Bern soon ...


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: / on January 10, 2016, 09:29:38 AM
Three points is certainly something that can be overcome.

This will be fun :)


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: YPestis25 on January 10, 2016, 10:12:14 AM
So I guess this keeps O'Malley in the debate. His team must be breathing a sigh of relief.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Skye on January 10, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I guess it's a surprise Bernie is that close in Iowa. We'll see if the tables turn in the coming weeks.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 10, 2016, 10:38:28 AM
Full results, including links to all the crosstabs:

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/110-cruz-and-trump-vie-in-ia-trump-nh-favorite-clinton-and-sanders-competitive/

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Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Tender Branson on January 10, 2016, 10:40:28 AM
The gender gap in IA is huge:

Men: 56-39 Sanders
Women: 56-35 Clinton

Also, the crosstabs suggest that if mostly old Democratic women are voting on caucus day, Clinton will easily win. Clinton leads among registered Dems 54-39 and among Olds 60-33.

If more younger, independent men are voting - Sanders could pull off a win. Sanders leads among Independents 62-29 and among young voters under 45 years of age by 64-29.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Flake on January 10, 2016, 11:16:11 AM
New Poll: Iowa President by Marist College on 2016-01-09 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1920160109008)

Summary:
Clinton:
48%
Sanders:
45%
Other:
5%
Undecided:
2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll%20Iowa%20Annotated%20Questionnaire_January%202016.pdf)



Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Sorenroy on January 10, 2016, 11:33:56 AM
Well my first guttural response is to say that this is a garbage poll, and that it's too good to be true, but at the same time this pollster is rated a B+ on 538 and was posted through MSNBC... I wish Fox did their poll so we would have something to compare this too, but as of now I just hope it's true and wait for another poll to come out.

The support probably comes from the fact that the most important issue to Democrats is "Job creation and economic growth" which tends to favor Sanders. It also has a very minimal breakdown (it only includes sex, not even age or race).

Also since last poll (for potential Democratic electorate):
Clinton — 49 (+2)
Sanders — 43 (+7)
O'Malley — 4 (+0)
Other — 1 (+0)
Undecided — 4 (-9)

Edit: the thread I posted this on (as well as the post above) were fused into this one. I think my points still make sense, but it may not fit the exact info because I did not see the above posts.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 10, 2016, 12:13:03 PM
This race is just getting started! To all of those confident Clinton hacks start sweating. This is a tossup.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on January 10, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Reaganfan on January 10, 2016, 12:56:16 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 10, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Try the socialist card all you want. If it's against Trump it won't matter.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: This account no longer in use. on January 10, 2016, 12:59:35 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Try the socialist card all you want. If it's against Trump it won't matter.

What if it's against Cruz or Rubio? They both have this ability to appear much more moderate than they actually are.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: The Other Castro on January 10, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

The fact that either would beat most of the Republican field says something about the options on the GOP side.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 10, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Try the socialist card all you want. If it's against Trump it won't matter.

What if it's against Cruz or Rubio? They both have this ability to appear much more moderate than they actually are.

Doubt it....Rubio has a chance in the primary chance but it's a very very small chance but i doubt he will win. Cruz is Trump lite, it would be easy to expose how right wing he is.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Ebsy on January 10, 2016, 01:21:35 PM
NBJ/WSJ is obviously just trying to stoke the horse race narrative. I certainly hope it is not a self fulfilling narrative.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: bigedlb on January 10, 2016, 01:27:46 PM
There are a lot of pdf files.  While in New Hampshire the difference between registered and likely is within a point.  the difference in Iowa between registered is crazy.

link (http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/IApolls/IA160102/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll_Iowa%20Adults%20and%20Registered%20Voters_Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_January%202016.pdf#page=1)

Registered Voters Iowa:
Trump 26
Cruz 24
Rubio 13
Carson 11
Paul 5
Bush 5
Huckabee 4
Christie 3
Fiorina 3
Kasich 1




Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Why on January 10, 2016, 04:44:19 PM
Carson might be recovering in Iowa a little bit which is bad news for Cruz in such a tight contest.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Frodo on January 10, 2016, 05:25:27 PM
Well, at least this is good news for those of us hoping this race remains competitive until Super/Southern Tuesday, when our states vote.   


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Wells on January 10, 2016, 05:28:21 PM
Good polls for Sanders.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 10, 2016, 07:13:39 PM
Bernie down 3 points in Iowa ties for the best showing he's ever had in a poll without Biden.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 10, 2016, 09:31:19 PM
In Iowa, who leads among…
participated in caucuses before: Cruz
never participated in caucuses before: Trump
Republicans: Cruz
Independents: Trump
conservative: Cruz
moderate: Trump
Tea Party supporters: Cruz
eastern cities: Cruz
east central: Trump
central: Cruz
Des Moines area: Cruz
west: Trump
income less than $50k: Trump
income more than $50k: Cruz
not college graduate: Trump
college graduate: Cruz
men: Cruz
women: Trump
married: Cruz
single: Trump
religious: Cruz
not religious: Trump


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Eraserhead on January 10, 2016, 11:53:45 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Wasn't your namesake 69 when he was first elected and 73 when he was re-elected?  Yeah, I think he was.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Eraserhead on January 11, 2016, 12:20:53 AM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Wasn't your namesake 69 when he was first elected and 73 when he was re-elected?  Yeah, I think he was.

I don't think he'd appreciate your blatant ageism.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 11, 2016, 01:14:59 AM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Wasn't your namesake 69 when he was first elected and 73 when he was re-elected?  Yeah, I think he was.

I don't think he'd appreciate your blatant ageism.

This is exactly how Reagan would respond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPu1UIBkBc


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 11, 2016, 01:37:46 AM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Wasn't your namesake 69 when he was first elected and 73 when he was re-elected?  Yeah, I think he was.

I don't think he'd appreciate your blatant ageism.

Shows his hackishness. A reason never to take him seriously.


Title: Re: IA/NH-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton, Cruz lead in Iowa; Sanders, Trump lead in NH
Post by: Reaganfan on January 11, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
No one on Dem side is sweating, Sanders or Clinton will be nxt prez.

HAHA A 75 yr old socialist or a 69 yr old opportunist hated by half the country. Thanks for the options!

Wasn't your namesake 69 when he was first elected and 73 when he was re-elected?  Yeah, I think he was.

I don't think he'd appreciate your blatant ageism.

He didn't come across that age. Besides, aren't you liberals all for youth and new and fresh? Oh that's right, you don't have anyone new and fresh because we gutted all your Congressional and State offices in those midterm elections ;)