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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: The Other Castro on January 28, 2016, 11:19:56 AM



Title: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: The Other Castro on January 28, 2016, 11:19:56 AM
Clinton - 47% (-8%)
Sanders - 42% (+9%)
O'Malley - 6% (No Change)

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/f94fe349-47c3-4af3-86b9-5f50e362d1ec.pdf


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Holmes on January 28, 2016, 11:24:40 AM
Looking good for Clinton in these closing days. Just need to see what Selzer says on Saturday.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
Clinton was up 22 points by Monmouth in December. Not the best trajectory for Clinton, but I still think she's pulls out a narrow win.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 28, 2016, 11:32:23 AM
DOMINATING!


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Likely Voter on January 28, 2016, 11:34:06 AM
As noted before, every poll of Iowa is really a guess at the turnout scenario. The Clinton+5 number assumes a turnout of 110,000.  They also mapped out a couple of other higher turnout scenarios:


150,000 voters:
Clinton 46%
Sanders 43%

200,000 voters:
Clinton 45%
Sanders 44%


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: The Other Castro on January 28, 2016, 11:36:35 AM
110,000 seems somewhat small.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2016, 11:45:02 AM

A 17% collapse in the course of a month isn't really dominating.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: DrScholl on January 28, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
Iowa is a must win for Sanders and this does not look good for him. And considering that this caucus is all about geography, it's a big plus that Clinton is better organized.

One thing that is telling is that Sanders did not start performing well in Iowa until after the data breach. Looks like that might not have been enough.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 28, 2016, 12:08:19 PM

A 17% collapse in the course of a month isn't really dominating.

Beating your opponent in one of his top five states, demographically, certainly is.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: The Other Castro on January 28, 2016, 12:10:17 PM
Iowa really is going to be one of those races where the only poll that matters is on caucus day. With DMR likely to show a statistically tied race in its final poll, the results of Iowa are going to depend mostly on turnout levels and ground game.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Eraserhead on January 28, 2016, 12:28:21 PM
Damn, I expected that Clinton would have a double digit margin in this poll...


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on January 28, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
As noted before, every poll of Iowa is really a guess at the turnout scenario. The Clinton+5 number assumes a turnout of 110,000.  They also mapped out a couple of other higher turnout scenarios:


150,000 voters:
Clinton 46%
Sanders 43%

200,000 voters:
Clinton 45%
Sanders 44%

100,000?  Lower than 2004?  LOLOLOLOLOL! 


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Eraserhead on January 28, 2016, 12:43:19 PM
This poll also has Clinton and Sanders nearly tied among men. Heh.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on January 28, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
This poll also has Clinton and Sanders nearly tied among men. Heh.

Does it?

Lolz.

Can I get a JUNK POLL!?


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Holmes on January 28, 2016, 01:21:33 PM

Here you go. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=224691.0)


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Sorenroy on January 28, 2016, 01:53:11 PM

Here you go. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=224691.0)

Gave me a chuckle m8.

Anyway here are the specific numbers:

Men:
Sanders - 46% (+4)
Clinton - 43% (-4)

Women:
Clinton - 50% (-11)
Sanders - 38 (+11)

Favorabilities:
Candidate - Favorable-Unfavorable (Net)
Sanders - 85-9 (+76)
Clinton - 78-17 (+61)
O'Malley - 50-14 (+36)

Edit: My mistake, women voters are 50-38 Clinton. Thanks Eraserhead, it has been fixed.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Eraserhead on January 28, 2016, 02:34:10 PM

Here you go. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=224691.0)

Gave me a chuckle m8.

Anyway here are the specific numbers:

Men:
Sanders - 46% (+4)
Clinton - 43% (-4)

Women:
Clinton - 58% (-11)
Sanders - 38 (+11)

Favorabilities:
Candidate - Favorable-Unfavorable (Net)
Sanders - 85-9 (+76)
Clinton - 78-17 (+61)
O'Malley - 50-14 (+36)

Clinton is at 50% among women, not 58%.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: IceSpear on January 28, 2016, 06:28:03 PM

A 17% collapse in the course of a month isn't really dominating.

Beating your opponent in one of his top five states, demographically, certainly is.

Yeah, people really don't seem to realize that Iowa should be Bernie country. Bernie losing it would be equivalent to Clinton losing a Deep South state.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on January 28, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
Looking good for Clinton in these closing days. Just need to see what Selzer says on Saturday.

Looking good?? She's collapsing.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Holmes on January 28, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
Looking good for Clinton in these closing days. Just need to see what Selzer says on Saturday.

Looking good?? She's collapsing.

I mean, you can call it what you want, but it's pretty clear. One person is winning, and the other one isn't. Sorry, I guess?


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on January 28, 2016, 09:42:22 PM
Looking good for Clinton in these closing days. Just need to see what Selzer says on Saturday.

Looking good?? She's collapsing.

I mean, you can call it what you want, but it's pretty clear. One person is winning, and the other one isn't. Sorry, I guess?

Much higher respected QUINNIPIAC has Bernie up 4.  Sorry, Nikki Minasgh.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Eraserhead on January 28, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
I don't really get how either side can be confident of victory when they look at this.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-caucus

It's a complete tossup.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 28, 2016, 10:28:22 PM
I don't really get how either side can be confident of victory when they look at this.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-caucus

It's a complete tossup.

True, we find out Monday.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: IceSpear on January 28, 2016, 10:29:07 PM
I don't really get how either side can be confident of victory when they look at this.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-caucus

It's a complete tossup.

I'm pretty sure the people acting confident of victory are trolling.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Beet on January 28, 2016, 10:30:38 PM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 29, 2016, 01:54:45 AM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.

LOL, then people would have paid attention sooner, and this pro Bernie movement would have happened sooner.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: IceSpear on January 29, 2016, 02:15:14 AM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.

If only Supreme Dark Overlord Debbie "Satan Lucifer Hades" Wasserman Schultz moved the date back!

Welcome back, by the way. ;)


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on January 29, 2016, 02:16:40 AM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.

If only Supreme Dark Overlord Debbie "Satan Lucifer Hades" Wasserman Schultz moved the date back!

Welcome back, by the way. ;)

I've been meaning to resurrect the old feud: how does it feel to be wrong about Democratic primaries! I told you long ago, last year, that Hillary's support was overstated and you didn't believe me. Yung DFB never forgets, friend. Even if Bernie loses Iowa and New Hampshire, I win!

(sorry but I really wanted to re-litigate this and rub it in, if it means anything, I have a better opinion of Hillary now)


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: IceSpear on January 29, 2016, 02:39:42 AM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.

If only Supreme Dark Overlord Debbie "Satan Lucifer Hades" Wasserman Schultz moved the date back!

Welcome back, by the way. ;)

I've been meaning to resurrect the old feud: how does it feel to be wrong about Democratic primaries! I told you long ago, last year, that Hillary's support was overstated and you didn't believe me. Yung DFB never forgets, friend. Even if Bernie loses Iowa and New Hampshire, I win!

(sorry but I really wanted to re-litigate this and rub it in, if it means anything, I have a better opinion of Hillary now)

Depends exactly what you mean. I obviously never thought Hillary was going to win by anywhere close to 50 points or whatever. But yeah, I will admit Sanders is doing far better than I ever imagined he would.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on January 29, 2016, 03:21:57 AM
I think Clinton has closef the enthusiasm gap she was lacking. When she was losing her lead to Sanders over weekend. Her voters will come out.


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: Beet on January 30, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
If only this f**** thing had been on January 4 like it was supposed to be.

If only Supreme Dark Overlord Debbie "Satan Lucifer Hades" Wasserman Schultz moved the date back!

Welcome back, by the way. ;)

Thanks IceSpear :)


Title: Re: IA-Monmouth: Clinton up 5
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on January 31, 2016, 02:41:38 AM
I think Clinton has closef the enthusiasm gap she was lacking. When she was losing her lead to Sanders over weekend. Her voters will come out.

All the olds are getting pissed off at their ingrate children for "feeling the Bern." :P