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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: Holmes on February 25, 2016, 12:47:25 PM



Title: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 25, 2016, 12:47:25 PM
http://newsstand.clemson.edu/mediarelations/clinton-will-win-by-wide-margin-in-south-carolina-palmetto-poll-shows/

Clinton 64
Sanders 14

Feb 20 - 25, 650 polled, MoE +/- 3%.

It's a university poll. But consistent with Clinton being up 30-40% in other Southern states like Georgia and Texas. So.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on February 25, 2016, 12:48:47 PM
University poll that has Sanders under 15%? REEEEEE, throw this in the trash.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Crumpets on February 25, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
I saw the title and thought that it meant Clinton was at 50% and I was like :O, but then I saw the poll, and now I'm like :D even though I agree it's probably trash.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: windjammer on February 25, 2016, 01:13:33 PM
JUNK JUNK JUNK


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 25, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
I wonder why University polls underestimate the losing candidate most of the time? Clinton is for sure probably at 64%, but Sanders at 14% is just such an embarrassing thing to publish.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: IceSpear on February 25, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
This is gonna be a thrashing, but unfortunately it won't be anywhere near this big of one.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: A Perez on February 25, 2016, 02:31:29 PM
University poll that has Sanders under 15%? REEEEEE, throw this in the trash.
No polling expert ever said that university polls are worse than Non-university polls.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on February 25, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
I wonder why University polls underestimate the losing candidate most of the time? Clinton is for sure probably at 64%, but Sanders at 14% is just such an embarrassing thing to publish.

Well this is a trash poll but since it overestimates Clinton you couldn't help but to publish it.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 25, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
I wonder why University polls underestimate the losing candidate most of the time? Clinton is for sure probably at 64%, but Sanders at 14% is just such an embarrassing thing to publish.

Well this is a trash poll but since it overestimates Clinton you couldn't help but to publish it.

I didn't publish this poll.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Eraserhead on February 25, 2016, 02:48:22 PM
Uh... did the survey include any white people?


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on February 25, 2016, 04:29:41 PM
If this is anywhere close then Bernie is dead :(


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on February 25, 2016, 04:34:22 PM
Uh... did the survey include any white people?


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Xing on February 25, 2016, 05:29:44 PM
If the current polls are accurate (which we'll find out soon enough), then Sanders is toast. He can't win the nomination if he's losing GA/SC by 50, and TX by more than 30. I can certainly live with Hillary as the nominee, but I'll want to take a break from this forum, considering how absolutely unbearable the Hillary hacks here will be, if the polls are right.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Averroës Nix on February 26, 2016, 09:07:20 PM
Notice:

Quote
The telephone poll of 650 likely voters was taken between Saturday and Wednesday. The Palmetto Poll respondents were those who said they plan to vote in this election and have voted in two of the last three statewide primaries.

So the result isn't ridiculous. But, as it's not meant to include all likely voters, I'm not sure why the aggregators are even including this one.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: socaldem on February 26, 2016, 11:41:01 PM
Notice:

Quote
The telephone poll of 650 likely voters was taken between Saturday and Wednesday. The Palmetto Poll respondents were those who said they plan to vote in this election and have voted in two of the last three statewide primaries.

So the result isn't ridiculous. But, as it's not meant to include all likely voters, I'm not sure why the aggregators are even including this one.

So this poll excludes anyone under 22 years old? The youth are like 80%+ Sanders voters...


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: The Other Castro on February 27, 2016, 01:17:42 AM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Eraserhead on February 27, 2016, 01:19:39 AM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"

That'd be fantastic! Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: IceSpear on February 27, 2016, 01:31:55 AM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"

LOL. I could see them doing that. Luckily it's only a single poll and doesn't seem to be getting too much attention. If multiple polls were showing similar numbers I'd start to be a bit nervous about that.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 27, 2016, 01:51:51 AM
Notice:

Quote
The telephone poll of 650 likely voters was taken between Saturday and Wednesday. The Palmetto Poll respondents were those who said they plan to vote in this election and have voted in two of the last three statewide primaries.

So the result isn't ridiculous. But, as it's not meant to include all likely voters, I'm not sure why the aggregators are even including this one.

So this poll excludes anyone under 22 years old? The youth are like 80%+ Sanders voters...

They're excluded if they're indicated that they don't plan to vote in the primary. Otherwise they're included.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: President Johnson on February 27, 2016, 06:20:28 AM


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: socaldem on February 27, 2016, 11:34:54 AM
Notice:

Quote
The telephone poll of 650 likely voters was taken between Saturday and Wednesday. The Palmetto Poll respondents were those who said they plan to vote in this election and have voted in two of the last three statewide primaries.

So the result isn't ridiculous. But, as it's not meant to include all likely voters, I'm not sure why the aggregators are even including this one.

So this poll excludes anyone under 22 years old? The youth are like 80%+ Sanders voters...

They're excluded if they're indicated that they don't plan to vote in the primary. Otherwise they're included.

The exvlusion wuoted above sers forth two parameters--intention to vote AND voting history. Young voters by virtue of a ge have no voting history.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 27, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
Notice:

Quote
The telephone poll of 650 likely voters was taken between Saturday and Wednesday. The Palmetto Poll respondents were those who said they plan to vote in this election and have voted in two of the last three statewide primaries.

So the result isn't ridiculous. But, as it's not meant to include all likely voters, I'm not sure why the aggregators are even including this one.

So this poll excludes anyone under 22 years old? The youth are like 80%+ Sanders voters...

They're excluded if they're indicated that they don't plan to vote in the primary. Otherwise they're included.

The exvlusion wuoted above sers forth two parameters--intention to vote AND voting history. Young voters by virtue of a ge have no voting history.

I read it as the poll includes 1) people who say they're likely to vote in this election and 2) have voted in the last two out of three statewide primaries. But yeah, the wording is pretty vague and it won't matter in 7 hours anyway.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: IceSpear on February 27, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
New SC gold standard? lol


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 27, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
Heh.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Mehmentum on February 27, 2016, 08:07:35 PM
VINDICATED!


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: The Other Castro on February 27, 2016, 08:23:06 PM
See, Clinton got exactly what she was polling. She clearly has no momentum. (/s)


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: IceSpear on February 27, 2016, 08:24:39 PM
See, Clinton got exactly what she was polling. She clearly has no momentum. (/s)

HER POLLS NEVER GO UP, ONLY DOWN!!11!!!!!

- Lawrence O'Donnell


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Xing on February 27, 2016, 08:41:31 PM
Clemson is the HIGH ENERGY WINNER of this campaign!


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Mehmentum on February 27, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
This just goes to show that sometimes, those way out there polls that nobody believes sometimes do turn out to be correct.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Ebsy on February 27, 2016, 08:52:12 PM
Closest to the actual results by far.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: °Leprechaun on February 27, 2016, 09:02:28 PM
LOL! :)


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: emailking on February 27, 2016, 09:48:50 PM
Junk poll I guess?


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Admiral Kizaru on February 27, 2016, 10:35:58 PM
I wonder why University polls underestimate the losing candidate most of the time? Clinton is for sure probably at 64%, but Sanders at 14% is just such an embarrassing thing to publish.

Well this is a trash poll but since it overestimates Clinton you couldn't help but to publish it.

lol. This guy never fails to amuse me.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Holmes on February 27, 2016, 10:56:23 PM
To be fair, no polling caught this except for this one. You can make an argument that the 40% or 50% margins in the recent Georgia and Texas polls could have been foreshadowing this, but still.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Flake on February 27, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"

That'd be fantastic! Fingers crossed.

At least he outperformed it by 2 :/


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: DrScholl on February 27, 2016, 11:14:02 PM
This turned to be quite good.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Lyin' Steve on February 27, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"

Sanders outperformed the polls by nine points!


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Zache on February 27, 2016, 11:17:48 PM
I wonder why University polls underestimate the losing candidate most of the time? Clinton is for sure probably at 64%, but Sanders at 14% is just such an embarrassing thing to publish.

Well this is a trash poll but since it overestimates Clinton you couldn't help but to publish it.

LOL


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Eraserhead on February 28, 2016, 02:12:49 AM
Watch CNN point to this poll after SC saying "WOW Sanders outperformed the polls by 25 points!"

That'd be fantastic! Fingers crossed.

At least he outperformed it by 2 :/

2.5%! #YUGE


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on June 16, 2016, 11:07:12 PM
And let's bump one of the best pollsters in the land too.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: / on June 16, 2016, 11:09:42 PM
why are you bumping all of these threads


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: Ebowed on June 16, 2016, 11:10:20 PM
why are you bumping all of these threads

Sh*poster gonna sh*tpost.


Title: Re: SC - Clemson: Clinton +50
Post by: ElectionsGuy on June 17, 2016, 01:07:07 PM
And let's bump one of the best pollsters in the land too.

This poll had 20%+ undecided/other. It wasn't a great poll, they just happened to get the margin right.