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Title: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on June 01, 2005, 10:41:16 PM
Who do you think the top candidates will be for each party in 2012/2016?

For the Democrats, I think Montana governor Brian Schweitzer will be towards the top of the list. I also think we will have 3 or 4 other very strong candidates.

For the Republicans, I think Tim Pawlenty will be at the top of the list.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: PBrunsel on June 01, 2005, 10:43:15 PM
Governor Jim Nussle of Iowa for the Republicans.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Moooooo on June 01, 2005, 10:44:36 PM
Democrats:

Schweitzer, Obama, Warner, Spitzer...


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 01, 2005, 10:46:19 PM
Schweitzer, Obama, Warner, Spitzer...

Yeah


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Frodo on June 01, 2005, 10:47:16 PM
Democrats
-Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer (for 2012), New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (if he wins next year -in which case, he will be the main candidate for 2016 once he completes two terms, if he wins them),
and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2016.

Republicans
-South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.  i can't think of anymore at this time.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Moooooo on June 01, 2005, 10:51:09 PM
Republicans:

Santorum, Nussle, Sanford, Pawlenty, Bush


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on June 01, 2005, 10:56:31 PM
Democrats:

Schweitzer, Obama, Warner, Spitzer...

Yep, I have Spitzer and Obama on my list as well. I have two others you didn't mention, though.

Warner will hopefully be our 2008 candidate.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Moooooo on June 01, 2005, 11:02:09 PM

Warner will hopefully be our 2008 candidate.

Hopefully, but if he fails to receive the nomination... He can run for governor again in 2009, and run for President in 2012/2016.  :)


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: minionofmidas on June 02, 2005, 05:04:12 AM
2012: Whoever wins in 2008.
2016: Whoever wins in 2012, or whoever was vice president from 2008 to 2016. :P


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 02, 2005, 05:20:59 AM
Some of these may be longshot names, but I think they are a possibility that cannot be ruled out.

Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS)
Gov. Brad Henry (D-OK) (he could be 2012, 2016, or 2020, if he decides to run, which I think he should, unless he's another Bill Clinton or John Kennedy, as he's only 42 in 2005)
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) (especially if he unseats Rep Sen. Elizabeth Dole)

Fmr. Rep. JC Watts (R-OK)
Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)
Gov. Dirk Kempthorne (R-ID)
Fmr. Gov. Frank Keating (R-OK) (Highly doubtful, as he became increasingly unpopular in his last 2 or 3 years as Oklahoma Governor, especially among voters from center-right to the left)


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: MODU on June 02, 2005, 07:26:29 AM

I can't think that far.  Why not get through 2008 first, and then see how the political climate changes?  :)


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Democratic Hawk on June 02, 2005, 07:43:34 AM
2012: Whoever wins in 2008.
2016: Whoever wins in 2012, or whoever was vice president from 2008 to 2016. :P

Ditto

Dave


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Frodo on June 02, 2005, 12:58:34 PM
2016
Democrat
Obama
Spitzer
Villaraigosa

i think we are more likely to see Villaraigosa run for president in either 2020 or 2024 (assuming in your scenario here that he wins two terms as Los Angeles mayor).  seriously, i can't see a big-city mayor winning his party's nomination, let alone the presidency without having run for and won higher office beforehand.  once he runs for and wins two terms as California governor -if he completes his two terms as LA mayor, should he win them- only then can he be considered as a viable candidate for president. 


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Ben Meyers on June 02, 2005, 01:22:22 PM
I think that very soon, George P. Bush, Jeb's son, will enter politics.  He will be an extremely good candidate, being part-Hispanic and charismatic.

I think that he could be a candidate, if not for President then for Governor or Senator, by 2012, and be a presidential candidate by 2016 or 2020.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: AuH2O on June 02, 2005, 04:18:17 PM
I'm not impressed by many of these suggestions.

Not that I'm overflowing with ideas of my own, because it would take more thinking than I currently am willing to commit. However, some of these are just downright bad. Spitzer? LOL maybe for people that haven't seen him on TV. I understand why New Yorkers like him but if you think he can win in the Midwest, crack would be a mild drug for you.

Same for the stupid mayor-elect of LA. And a 75-year old former Governor of Idaho? uhhhh

2012, like some folks have said, is already half-solved by who wins in 2008-- and who runs.

Obama is certainly a possibility on the Dem side if Hillary loses... I really don't believe Schweitzer will ever be on a national ticket. Warner's only shot is '08 because by '12 he's old news.

On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS), Gov. Ralph Reed (GA), Gov. JD Hayworth (AZ), Sen. David Vitter (LA), among others.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on June 02, 2005, 05:14:50 PM
On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS), Gov. Ralph Reed (GA),

Ralph Reed? The founder fo the Christian Coalition?

Isn't he currently being brought up on charges?


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: AuH2O on June 02, 2005, 05:27:43 PM
On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS), Gov. Ralph Reed (GA),

Ralph Reed? The founder fo the Christian Coalition?

Isn't he currently being brought up on charges?

lol

No, he's running for Lt. Gov. of Georgia.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on June 02, 2005, 05:32:26 PM
Not that I'm overflowing with ideas of my own, because it would take more thinking than I currently am willing to commit. However, some of these are just downright bad. Spitzer? LOL maybe for people that haven't seen him on TV.

I think he's great on TV. Are you referring to his baldness?


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: No more McShame on June 02, 2005, 05:33:48 PM

On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for ... Gov. JD Hayworth (AZ),

Like the sound of thet :D


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: MODU on June 03, 2005, 09:02:45 AM

On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for ... Gov. JD Hayworth (AZ),

Like the sound of thet :D

And here I thought he was talking about JD Hogg.  HAHAHA

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Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Hitchabrut on June 03, 2005, 01:54:54 PM
Coleman


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: MODU on June 03, 2005, 02:19:47 PM

Do you mean former California Governor candidate Gary Coleman?  :)


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Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheWildCard on June 03, 2005, 02:56:01 PM
I think Thune could be a condidate in 2020 if he does well in the future and people remember that he was a giant killer.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on December 14, 2006, 01:31:33 PM
On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS), Gov. Ralph Reed (GA), Gov. JD Hayworth (AZ)

Now this might be the best Goldie quote of them all.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: AndrewTX on December 14, 2006, 02:17:57 PM
Sadly, it's still possible for JD Hayworth to make a comeback in 2010 in a run for Governor.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Reaganfan on December 14, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
(D-NY) Gov. Eliot Spitzer
(D-CO) Gov. Bill Ritter
(R-MS) Gov. Haley Barbour
(R-SC) Gov. Mark Sanford


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Mr. Morden on December 14, 2006, 04:42:07 PM
My prediction: If the GOP wins the White House in '08, then, unless Obama was the unsuccessful Dem. nominee, he will be the early frontrunner for the Democratic nomination in '12.

OTOH, if the Dems win in '08, then the early frontrunner for the GOP nomination in '12 will be someone who doesn't have very high national name ID right now, but will gain national prominence during the '08 election fight.  Possibly Romney or Huckabee if they're not nominated in '08, but it could also be the unsuccessful '08 VP candidate.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Verily on December 14, 2006, 05:06:38 PM
Sadly, it's still possible for JD Hayworth to make a comeback in 2010 in a run for Governor.

Will Napolitano be term-limited?

(Actually, she'd be a potential Democratic candidate for President in 2016-2020, maybe 2012 if the Democrats lose in 2008.)


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Frodo on December 14, 2006, 05:12:06 PM
Since Brian Schweitzer has made it clear he is not interested in ever running for president:

Barack Obama or Eliot Spitzer

And for the Republicans, if their 2008 nominee doesn't make it that November:

Rudy Giuliani or Haley Barbour



Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: SPC on December 14, 2006, 07:19:01 PM
2012

GOP:
Sen. John Thune (SD)
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (CA) (if Constitution is changed)
Att. Gnrl. Alberto Gonzales (?)

DEM:
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (NC)
Spkr. Nancy Pelosi (CA) (won't win, but she will try)
Sen. Bob Casey (PA)



Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Governor PiT on December 15, 2006, 01:27:24 PM
Democrats
-Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer (for 2012), New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (if he wins next year -in which case, he will be the main candidate for 2016 once he completes two terms, if he wins them),
and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2016.

Republicans
-South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.  i can't think of anymore at this time.

I would love to see Shweitzer run, but he is to conservative to get the democratic nomination(pro-gun and fiscally responsible) unless the dems loose in 08 and get really desperate.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 15, 2006, 03:46:20 PM
Haley Barbour seems like a likely 2012 candidate should the Republicans lose in 2008....


....assuming he wins reelection in 2007, which he won't, so it's all moot.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on December 15, 2006, 03:50:54 PM
Now this might be the best Goldie quote of them all.

Agreed! It seems like being touted by AUH20 is like the kiss of death for any GOP politician.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on December 15, 2006, 03:55:14 PM
Since Brian Schweitzer has made it clear he is not interested in ever running for president:

He's never said that.  I think there's a good shot he'll run in 2012 or 2016 after his two terms as Montana governor are up.



Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: AndrewTX on December 15, 2006, 04:01:28 PM
2012

GOP:
Sen. John Thune (SD)
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (CA) (if Constitution is changed)
Att. Gnrl. Alberto Gonzales (?)

DEM:
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (NC)
Spkr. Nancy Pelosi (CA) (won't win, but she will try)
Sen. Bob Casey (PA)

 If Edwards doesn't get anywhere in 2008, he will really be over politically. I highly doubt someone is going to go running for a 1 term senator, who hasn't held office in 8 years.




Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: SPC on December 15, 2006, 07:21:05 PM
2012

GOP:
Sen. John Thune (SD)
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (CA) (if Constitution is changed)
Att. Gnrl. Alberto Gonzales (?)

DEM:
Fmr. Sen. John Edwards (NC)
Spkr. Nancy Pelosi (CA) (won't win, but she will try)
Sen. Bob Casey (PA)

 If Edwards doesn't get anywhere in 2008, he will really be over politically. I highly doubt someone is going to go running for a 1 term senator, who hasn't held office in 8 years.




I am saying that because he could be a potential VP in 2008, making him frontrunner in 16.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Frodo on December 15, 2006, 10:32:08 PM
Since Brian Schweitzer has made it clear he is not interested in ever running for president:

He's never said that.  I think there's a good shot he'll run in 2012 or 2016 after his two terms as Montana governor are up.



I could have sworn that he did say something to that effect not too long ago... 

Anyways, I will be glad if I am wrong.  If we lose with Hillary in 2008, at least we will have a pleasant choice deciding between Barack Obama or Brian Schweitzer four years hence. 


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Frodo on December 15, 2006, 10:41:16 PM
Democrats
-Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer (for 2012), New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (if he wins next year -in which case, he will be the main candidate for 2016 once he completes two terms, if he wins them),
and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2016.

Republicans
-South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.  i can't think of anymore at this time.

I would love to see Shweitzer run, but he is to conservative to get the democratic nomination(pro-gun and fiscally responsible) unless the dems loose in 08 and get really desperate.

Most primary voters impose a litmus test based on two main factors -the Iraq War and abortion.  If anything, his stance on gun rights and his fiscal conservatism should help him with Democrats eager to make a play for the intermountain West.  Don't underestimate the pragmatism of primary voters -they chose Kerry over Dean and Kucinich in '04 for a reason.

 


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Nutmeg on December 16, 2006, 02:24:43 AM

Yes.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: SPC on December 16, 2006, 01:29:33 PM
Oops I froget Linsey (SP) Graham (R-SC)


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: FerrisBueller86 on December 16, 2006, 07:02:44 PM
I would love to see Shweitzer run, but he is to conservative to get the democratic nomination(pro-gun and fiscally responsible) unless the dems loose in 08 and get really desperate.
Howard Dean had a top rating from the NRA as governor of Vermont.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 18, 2007, 01:14:13 PM
On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS)

LOL


LOL


LOL


LMAO!

It seems like being touted by AUH20 is like the kiss of death for any GOP politician.

Indeed.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: AndrewTX on July 18, 2007, 01:44:18 PM
^LOL!!


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: TheresNoMoney on July 18, 2007, 01:55:21 PM
On the GOP side, for 2016, look out for Gov. Phill Kline (KS), Gov. Ralph Reed (GA), Gov. JD Hayworth (AZ), Sen. David Vitter (LA), among others.

This has got to be one of the Top 5 posts ever recorded on this website. I really miss Goldie.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: YRABNNRM on July 18, 2007, 04:26:55 PM
Cory Booker but he may be 2020 or 2024.


Title: Re: 2012/2016 Candidates
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 18, 2007, 10:06:09 PM
Cory Booker but he may be 2020 or 2024.

I love Booker. I'd definetley consider supporting him.