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Title: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on March 12, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
 Huge freedom fighters, obviously.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 12, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
HugeMassive freedom fighters, obviously.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: DavidB. on March 12, 2016, 01:15:36 PM
Depends on the context. If they fight actual nazis, as sometimes in Germany, then good for them. If they just whine about right-wingers/non-Commies in general, as in most instances, then I generally side with the right-wingers.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: SNJ1985 on March 12, 2016, 01:47:40 PM
As a right-winger, I am obviously not a fan of far-left thugs who use violence to try to silence anyone who dares to object in the slightest to the leftist agenda.

In their eyes, pretty much everyone who isn't left-wing is a ''Nazi''.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 12, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
Can get overdramatic at times, but their hearts are in the right place. FFs.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on March 12, 2016, 03:28:39 PM
As a right-winger, I am obviously not a fan of far-left thugs who use violence to try to silence anyone who dares to object in the slightest to the leftist agenda.

In their eyes, pretty much everyone who isn't left-wing is a ''Nazi''.

Aren't you, err, literally a fascist though?


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: The Last Northerner on March 12, 2016, 03:48:25 PM
Are they the youth branch of the greens or social democrats?


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: bagelman on March 12, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
I like the name.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Murica! on March 12, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
Need a few rifles(some automatic weapons would also be great)


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Thunderbird is the word on March 12, 2016, 08:25:15 PM


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 12, 2016, 08:28:33 PM


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Boston Bread on March 12, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Desperately needed on this forum.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Pingvin on March 12, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
Scum.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Intell on March 12, 2016, 11:59:07 PM
Meh'


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 13, 2016, 07:02:40 AM
Horrible, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. It also happens that one of those times was this past weekend in Chicago.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Crumpets on March 13, 2016, 10:57:17 AM
Depends on the context. If they fight actual nazis, as sometimes in Germany, then good for them. If they just whine about right-wingers/non-Commies in general, as in most instances, then I generally side with the right-wingers.

Agree with this. There's an Antifa group in our city which coordinates charity events outside of protesting to raise money for MSF, Red Cross, human rights activist groups, and other causes. When I think of Antifa, that's basically who comes to mind, and they are huge FFs. On the other hand, there's a group of left-wing anarchists who show up to every protest with no real agenda in mind other than getting on TV and screaming at people. They call themselves Antifa, but don't actually fight prejudice or fascism in any meaningful way.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan on March 13, 2016, 11:24:32 AM
In Polish there is popular phrase "Antifa łowcy HIVa" what can be translated as "Antifa catchers of the HIV" but I guess hatred against them is kinda stupid in country where we have almost no antifa, SHARPs, leftie skinheads etc.



General HP, probably one of the most retarded quasi-political group.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Zioneer on March 13, 2016, 11:31:51 AM

That sounds like something a fascist would say...

I'm joking of course, but why "scum" instead of "misguided"?


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Goldwater on March 13, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
The would obviously depend on whether or not they consider me a fascist.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: seb_pard on March 13, 2016, 06:38:00 PM


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 13, 2016, 06:48:11 PM

That sounds like something a fascist would say...

I'm joking of course, but why "scum" instead of "misguided"?

because pingvin is an actual fascist, no joke about it.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Pingvin on March 14, 2016, 01:51:13 AM

That sounds like something a fascist would say...

I'm joking of course, but why "scum" instead of "misguided"?

Because when you're funded by George Soros, you're not "misguided" anymore.

because pingvin is an actual fascist, doesn't want his country to give up a national border and cultural identity because it's 2016, no joke about it.
FTFY


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on March 14, 2016, 03:24:21 AM
I'd like to give those folks a free Chilean helicopter ride.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Famous Mortimer on March 14, 2016, 04:06:13 AM
I assume you're talking about the people who attacked that Klan rally in California.

I went to protest a "Klan rally" once myself. It was like two White trashy teenagers with swastika t-shirts and about 50 hipsters trying to beat them up with the cops stepping in to protect them.

The Klan is an irrelevant organization. They don't really need to be fought because they have no power, no influence, and barely any members. I thought even the left acknowledged that at this point and that's why for the most part they have moved on to fighting institutionalized and unintentional racism. Still though, some people on the left like to act out fantasies like they're fighting in the Spanish Civil War. Just like conservatives have fantasies of being Minutemen in the Revolutionary War.

I think the best strategy for fighting the Klan is to just ignore them. Let them have their pathetic rallies with 3 people and everyone can see what a joke they are. Another strategy could be to just talk to them, since a lot of the times they are just stupid teenagers with bad social skills and they've joined some weird political cult because it's the only way they've been able to get friends.

Attacking them with physical violence, with physical violence FIRST, in addition to being obviously morally questionable, is also completely counter productive as it feeds into the victimization narrative of these organizations.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Clark Kent on March 14, 2016, 09:03:19 AM
Depends on the context. If they fight actual nazis, as sometimes in Germany, then good for them. If they just whine about right-wingers/non-Commies in general, as in most instances, then I generally side with the right-wingers.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Famous Mortimer on March 19, 2016, 09:09:03 PM
Turns out that punk rocket/metal guy who attacked the Klan in California posts racist memes himself on Facebook, and he's well known in the local music community for going to shows just to start fights with people.


Title: Re: Opinion of Antifas?
Post by: Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends on March 20, 2016, 06:53:02 AM
Depends on the context. If they fight actual nazis, as sometimes in Germany, then good for them. If they just whine about right-wingers/non-Commies in general, as in most instances, then I generally side with the right-wingers.

Basically this. Voted HP (overall opinion, not including those who fight actual Nazis).