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Title: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Neoliberal EDUCATED Kansan on March 30, 2016, 11:54:36 am
Clinton 47.1, Trump 36.6
Clinton 44.2, Cruz 44.2
Kasich 48.1, Clinton 39.2

Sanders 54.1, Trump 35.0
Sanders 51.6, Cruz 39.4
Sanders 45.9, Kasich 43.7

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on March 30, 2016, 11:57:36 am
Terrible candidate.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Nat. Sec. Council Member Dwarven Dragon on March 30, 2016, 12:03:36 pm
Clinton is dead meat against Kasich. She should concede the election in July if Kasich is the nominee.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Cruzcrew on March 30, 2016, 12:12:26 pm
If Kasich is the nominee, does Wisconsin actually manage to go red?


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Cory Booker on March 30, 2016, 12:16:56 pm
If Kasich is the nominee, does Wisconsin actually manage to go red?

Clinton can still win, WI will stay blue, as long as Garland isnt confirmed and Johnson's on ballot. Clinton would keep what she is doing now driving up Latinos, blacks and Women. Kasich would ensure OH/ Va would be red and make a play for CO or Iowa.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 30, 2016, 12:25:30 pm
Clinton is dead meat against Kasich. She should concede the election in July if Kasich is the nominee.

And Kasich would be dead meat against Jesus, who has more of a chance to be the Democratic nominee that Kasich being the Republican one.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Neoliberal EDUCATED Kansan on March 30, 2016, 12:38:35 pm
Clinton is dead meat against Kasich. She should concede the election in July if Kasich is the nominee.

And Kasich would be dead meat against Jesus, who has more of a chance to be the Democratic nominee that Kasich being the Republican one.

Kasich could very well be nominated at a brokered convention. It's unlikely at this point, but it's also unlikely that Trump wins the nomination.

If Kasich is the nominee, does Wisconsin actually manage to go red?

WI could very well be the tipping point state in a Clinton vs. Kasich race.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 30, 2016, 12:44:06 pm
Clinton is dead meat against Kasich. She should concede the election in July if Kasich is the nominee.

And Kasich would be dead meat against Jesus, who has more of a chance to be the Democratic nominee that Kasich being the Republican one.

Kasich could very well be nominated at a brokered convention. It's unlikely at this point, but it's also unlikely that Trump wins the nomination.

No chance. TRUMP and Cruz delegates will never vote for him and even the establishment doesn't like him.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Ebsy on March 30, 2016, 12:45:33 pm
Kasich is only popular because he's so weak and ineffective that no one bothers to attack him.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: King on March 30, 2016, 12:49:29 pm
Kasich's path to the nomination would involve Trump and Cruz both dropping nuclear bombs on him to prevent it from happening. His reputation would not survive.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Cory Booker on March 30, 2016, 01:01:26 pm
Kasich is only popular because he's so weak and ineffective that no one bothers to attack him.

Precisley, the SW track would still be possible, he would be attacked viciously for his part in Leeman bros.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Xing on March 30, 2016, 01:03:43 pm
Those of you concluding that Kasich would have the GE in the bag if he somehow wins the nomination (<1% chance, let's be honest), should take your own advice about early polls...


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: EliteLX on March 30, 2016, 01:34:58 pm
I just wish that my party would nominate John Kasich.

Town hall last night did nothing but impress me more. By absolute far the most stable, equipped and experienced, reasonable and faithful figure out of every candidate running.


Title: WI: Marquette Law School: Clinton Leads Trump in Wisconsin
Post by: Dave Leip on March 30, 2016, 01:38:23 pm
New Poll: Wisconsin President by Marquette Law School on 2016-03-28 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5520160328181)

Summary: D: 47%, R: 37%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2016/03/30/new-marquette-law-school-poll-finds-cruz-sanders-ahead-in-wisconsin-presidential-primaries-bradley-leads-state-supreme-court-race/)


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: madelka on March 30, 2016, 01:48:30 pm
Kasich is only popular because he's so weak and ineffective that no one bothers to attack him.

That doesn't explain why she's tied with Cruz in the state, Ebsy. Anyway, I think that WI will stay blue if Cruz or Trump win the nomination.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 30, 2016, 02:02:03 pm
Kasich is only popular because he's so weak and ineffective that no one bothers to attack him.

That doesn't explain why she's tied with Cruz in the state, Ebsy. Anyway, I think that WI will stay blue if Cruz or Trump win the nomination.

Obama was tied with Romney during the spring of 2012 but eventually he won comfortably, even with Paul Ryan on the ticket.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Ebsy on March 30, 2016, 02:18:22 pm
Kasich is only popular because he's so weak and ineffective that no one bothers to attack him.

That doesn't explain why she's tied with Cruz in the state, Ebsy. Anyway, I think that WI will stay blue if Cruz or Trump win the nomination.
Wisconsin has the perfect electorate to fall for Cruz's bulls[Inks]. They fell for Scott Walker 3 times after all.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: pbrower2a on March 30, 2016, 04:18:44 pm
Wisconsin is very polarized, as one would expect of the state that gave America Senator Joseph R. McCarthy despite a reputation for liberalism. The Left is well to the Left; the Right is far to the Right. There's little room for the middle-of-the-road in Wisconsin. 


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Cory Booker on March 30, 2016, 07:04:38 pm
Walker and Pawlenty are friends, eventhough Walker governed far more conservatively than Pawlenty. It took MN two terms of Pawlenty to get from under GOP dominance at the stae level, i think WI will finally live up to expectations and vote for Feingold.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 30, 2016, 10:52:43 pm
Paul Ryan also has pretty good favorables here.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 30, 2016, 10:55:38 pm
Paul Ryan also has pretty good favorables here.

Paul Ryan is the one Wisconsin Republican who will have a home state bounce at the national level. Walker won't. Johnson won't. Duffy won't. He's simply in another league above the rest of the Wisconsin GOP in favorability.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Landslide Andy on March 30, 2016, 11:08:11 pm
Paul Ryan also has pretty good favorables here.

Paul Ryan is the one Wisconsin Republican who will have a home state bounce at the national level. Walker won't. Johnson won't. Duffy won't. He's simply in another league above the rest of the Wisconsin GOP in favorability.

He didn't get one in 2012.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 30, 2016, 11:12:02 pm
Paul Ryan also has pretty good favorables here.

Paul Ryan is the one Wisconsin Republican who will have a home state bounce at the national level. Walker won't. Johnson won't. Duffy won't. He's simply in another league above the rest of the Wisconsin GOP in favorability.

He didn't get one in 2012.

Nope he didn't. But WI did trend toward the Republicans with him on the ticket, presumably moreso than it would have without him as the VP nominee.


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on March 31, 2016, 01:02:52 am
Favorable Numbers

Kasich 36-23 (+13)
Sanders 46-40 (+6)
Cruz 30-49 (-19)
Clinton 35-59 (-24)
Trump 22-70 (-48)


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: Landslide Andy on March 31, 2016, 01:09:07 am
Favorable Numbers

Kasich 36-23 (+13)
Sanders 46-40 (+6)
Cruz 30-49 (-19)
Clinton 35-59 (-24)
Trump 22-70 (-48)

Presumptive Democratic nominee doubly more popular than the Republican frontrunner! You go girl!


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on March 31, 2016, 02:15:32 am
Favorable Numbers

Kasich 36-23 (+13)
Sanders 46-40 (+6)
Cruz 30-49 (-19)
Clinton 35-59 (-24)
Trump 22-70 (-48)

Presumptive Democratic nominee doubly more popular than the Republican frontrunner! You go girl!

#Clintonabove30%favorable!!


Title: Re: WI-Marquette: Clinton only leads Trump; trails Kasich; ties Cruz
Post by: pbrower2a on March 31, 2016, 07:16:56 am
Paul Ryan also has pretty good favorables here.

Paul Ryan is the one Wisconsin Republican who will have a home state bounce at the national level. Walker won't. Johnson won't. Duffy won't. He's simply in another league above the rest of the Wisconsin GOP in favorability.

He didn't get one in 2012.

Nope he didn't. But WI did trend toward the Republicans with him on the ticket, presumably moreso than it would have without him as the VP nominee.

Not enough.

Paul Ryan has never won Wisconsin in a statewide election and probably can't. The last three sitting Representatives as nominees for Vice-President (Ryan 2012, Kemp 1996, and Miller in 1964) did not win their states. Kemp was very good. Dick Cheney had run a statewide race and won his state; Wyoming has but one Congressional seat. But Wyoming offers three of the easiest electoral votes in America.

The usual penultimate office for a President of the United States being elected President is either Vice-President (GHW Bush, Lyndon Johnson), Governor (George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan), or US Senate (Barack Obama, Richard Nixon, John Kennedy). The heroic leader of a successful military campaign (Dwight Eisenhower) is a rarity; since the death of Norman Schwarzkopf (who never ran for elective office), nobody has that chance for the foreseeable future.

I do not say that cabinet secretaries, Representatives, or big-city mayors (just think about it: the Mayors of Los Angeles and New York City have responsibility over the welfare of more people than does the Governor of Arkansas) would be poor Presidents; they just can't win. I am tempted to believe that someone running a Presidential race needs to have won a statewide race to have an idea of how to win nationwide.

In 2012 Paul Ryan ended up protecting his own House seat.