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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: Mr. Morden on April 21, 2016, 09:16:50 AM



Title: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 21, 2016, 09:16:50 AM
Franklin & Marshall poll of Pennsylvania, conducted April 11-18:

http://www.fandm.edu/uploads/files/746493212120738645-f-m-poll-release-april-2016.pdf

Dems

Clinton 58%
Sanders 31%

GOP

Trump 40%
Cruz 26%
Kasich 24%


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on April 21, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
lol


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 21, 2016, 09:58:00 AM
WOW! Beautiful!


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Xing on April 21, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
11% under 35? Junk.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Holmes on April 21, 2016, 10:54:28 AM
I feel like it'll be a bit closer on the Democratic side and a bit wider on the Republican side


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Shadows on April 21, 2016, 11:33:37 AM
Over-estimates Sanders, Hilldawg will get 70-75% of the votes. Hilldawg sweep!


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Holmes on April 21, 2016, 11:33:59 AM
Over-estimates Sanders, Hilldawg will get 70-75% of the votes. Hilldawg sweep!

True that.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: RJEvans on April 21, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
The sample is WAY too old. 44% over 65 for the Dem side. 11% under 34. I imagine the polls showing this 10-15 points is right.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: 100% pro-life no matter what on April 21, 2016, 12:15:12 PM
Wow, they found a way to go to April 81st!!


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 21, 2016, 12:19:24 PM
FWIW, in 2008 the Dem electorate was 12% 18-29 and 22% 65+.

Also it had 14% independents and 3% Republicans.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Crumpets on April 21, 2016, 12:47:55 PM
He's dead Jim!


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: IceSpear on April 21, 2016, 01:09:54 PM
Well, looks like F&M's reputation is about to take a hit.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Ebsy on April 21, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
I expect it to be closer than this.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: dspNY on April 21, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
This lead is probably too big. I think Monmouth is on the money or very close to it


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: A Perez on April 21, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
Franklin & Marshall poll of Pennsylvania, conducted April 11-81:



This poll is bullsh**t, because April doesn't have 81 days.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: dspNY on April 21, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
The sample is WAY too old. 44% over 65 for the Dem side. 11% under 34. I imagine the polls showing this 10-15 points is right.

Pennsylvania's electorate has always skewed older. This particular poll might skew that a bit more, but a 10 point race would be 55% - 45% and a 15 point race would be 57% - 42%.

Hillary getting 58% is optimistic, but entirely within reach.

2008 Democratic primary age breakdowns:

12% under 30
19% 30-44
37% 45-59
33% 60+

A plurality of that electorate voted for Bill twice and Hillary in 2008. I think a 27 point win is incredibly unrealistic but 12-15 points is certainly in the ballpark


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 22, 2016, 05:05:00 AM
Philadelphia: Trump +10 over Cruz
Northeast: Trump +26 over Cruz
Allegheny: Kasich +6 over Trump
Southwest: Cruz/Trump tie
Northwest: Trump +26 over Cruz
Central: Trump +6 over Cruz
Southeast: Kasich +5 over Trump

fav/unfav % among their own party:

Clinton 69/25% for +44%
Sanders 66/24% for +42%

Kasich 55/25% for +30%
Trump 46/44% for +2%
Cruz 45/44% for +1%


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Vosem on April 22, 2016, 05:08:28 AM
I would be shocked if the Southwest is a Cruz/trump tie. That implies Cruz has a shot in West Virginia. Most of the rest of it looks legit.


Title: Re: PA-Franklin&Marshall:D: Clinton 58% Sanders 31%;R: Trump 40% Cruz 26% Kasich 24%
Post by: Craziaskowboi on April 22, 2016, 06:51:39 PM
Philadelphia: Trump +10 over Cruz
Northeast: Trump +26 over Cruz
Allegheny: Kasich +6 over Trump
Southwest: Cruz/Trump tie
Northwest: Trump +26 over Cruz
Central: Trump +6 over Cruz
Southeast: Kasich +5 over Trump

fav/unfav % among their own party:

Clinton 69/25% for +44%
Sanders 66/24% for +42%

Kasich 55/25% for +30%
Trump 46/44% for +2%
Cruz 45/44% for +1%


Wow, it's almost as if Allegheny County is nothing like the rest of southwestern Pennsylvania politically. Who knew?