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Title: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: ○∙◄☻•tπ[╪AV┼cVÍ└ on April 25, 2016, 06:11:59 am
Connecticut

Clinton 48, Sanders 46

Pennsylvania

Clinton 51, Sanders 41

Rhode Island

Sanders 49, Clinton 45




Connecticut

Trump 59, Kasich 25, Cruz 13


Pennsylvania

Trump 51, Cruz 25, Kasich 22


Rhode Island

Trump 61, Kasich 23, Cruz 13


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/04/clinton-sanders-close-in-ctpari-trump-headed-for-big-wins.html


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: JerryArkansas on April 25, 2016, 06:12:58 am
About where I thought it would be, however, I wouldn't call being down ten in Pennsylvania as close.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on April 25, 2016, 06:14:46 am
Wow Trump is running away with this now.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Skye on April 25, 2016, 06:16:23 am
Would be pretty crazy if Trump carried them all with +50%


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 25, 2016, 06:20:15 am
These are by far the best polls for Sanders and TRUMP. Either PPP is onto something or they are going to have some 'splaining to do tomorrow.

P.S. Lol at Sanders winning RI because of his huge lead among conservative voters.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: This account no longer in use. on April 25, 2016, 06:27:05 am
+10 is close?


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Eraserhead on April 25, 2016, 06:27:41 am
So Bernie might actually win something tomorrow? Cool.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 25, 2016, 06:28:24 am

It is relative to other polls.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 25, 2016, 06:28:44 am
Connecticut
2-way race:

Trump 70%
Cruz 21%

Trump 63%
Kasich 31%

Kasich 56%
Cruz 24%

Trump supporters have a net positive favorable opinion of Kasich, but every other candidateís supporters have a net negative opinion of the other two Republican candidates.  While Trumpís leading the race, for example, 66% of Cruz supporters have an unfavorable opinion of him, as do 66% of Kasich supporters.

Pennsylvania
2-way race:

Trump 58%
Cruz 33%

Trump 57%
Kasich 37%

Kasich 44%
Cruz 34%

Same issue with candidate favorability here.  Except this time, itís Cruz supporters who (barely) have a favorable opinion of Kasich, while everyone else supporters dislike any candidate theyíre not supporting.

Rhode Island
2-way race:

Trump 72%
Cruz 20%

Trump 63%
Kasich 31%

Kasich 55%
Cruz 24%

And, like in PA, Cruz supporters OK with Kasich.  Everyone else dislikes everyone else.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ritchie Valens on April 25, 2016, 06:35:17 am
How many delegates would Trump secure tomorrow if those are the results?


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mehmentum on April 25, 2016, 06:35:35 am
Color me skeptical on the GOP side.  The Democratic numbers are believable, though I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton outperforms this.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: dax00 on April 25, 2016, 06:50:54 am
How many delegates would Trump secure tomorrow if those are the results?
Almost certain 28/28 in CT, 17/17 in PA and 10/19 in RI.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: A Perez on April 25, 2016, 06:58:57 am
PA isn't close. PPP lied. Their poll shows Clinton ahead by 10%.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Figueira on April 25, 2016, 07:03:30 am
I'm surprised Connecticut is so close, although I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Gass3268 on April 25, 2016, 07:23:49 am
How many delegates would Trump secure tomorrow if those are the results?
Almost certain 28/28 in CT, 17/17 in PA and 10/19 in RI.

Plus 16/16 in DE, 14/14 At-Large for MD, plus 18/24 as a conservative guess for the CD's in MD.

That brings Trump to 103 delegates from tomorrow, plus 54 of the unbound from PA which he's going to pick up a bunch of. Looking at a net gain off 100 delegates for Trump tomorrow.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: PeteB on April 25, 2016, 07:32:10 am
Brown University poll had Trump in the 30s in RI and this one has him above 60 there - somebody will be very embarrassed tomorrow.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Maxwell on April 25, 2016, 07:40:46 am
Lol Lyin' Ted is turning into Losin' Ted.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Eraserhead on April 25, 2016, 08:00:12 am
Brown University poll had Trump in the 30s in RI and this one has him above 60 there - somebody will be very embarrassed tomorrow.

Those Brown University polls were obvious trash.


Title: RI PrimD: Public Policy Polling: Sanders with Slight Lead in Rhode Island
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:22:50 am
New Poll: Rhode Island President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4420160424108)

Summary:
Sanders:
49%
Clinton:
45%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: RI PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Trump with Significant Lead in Rhode Island
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:23:50 am
New Poll: Rhode Island President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4420160424108)

Summary:
Trump:
61%
Kasich:
23%
Cruz:
13%
Other:
1%
Undecided:
2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: CT PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Trump with Significant Lead in Connecticut
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:24:47 am
New Poll: Connecticut President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=920160424108)

Summary:
Trump:
59%
Kasich:
25%
Cruz:
13%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: CT PrimD: Public Policy Polling: Close Race in Connecticut
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:25:58 am
New Poll: Connecticut President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=920160424108)

Summary:
Clinton:
48%
Sanders:
46%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: PA PrimD: Public Policy Polling: Clinton with Lead in Pennsylvania
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:27:31 am
New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4220160424108)

Summary:
Clinton:
51%
Sanders:
41%
Other:
-1%
Undecided:
9%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: PA PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Trump with Large Lead in Pennsylvania
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:28:43 am
New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4220160424108)

Summary:
Trump:
51%
Cruz:
25%
Kasich:
22%
Other:
-1%
Undecided:
3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/April26thPrimaryPolls.pdf)



Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: john cage bubblegum on April 25, 2016, 08:59:51 am
If PPP is about right, could Cruz be in danger of not clearing the 10% threshold for a delegate in the RI 1st congressional district?  I'm assuming that would be the district he'd do worse in.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Comrade Funk on April 25, 2016, 09:44:34 am
I hope my state and the other great states of the Northeast give Lyin' Teddy Canuck a big  you by giving the Donald a comfortable victory.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Xing on April 25, 2016, 10:13:16 am
Wow, maybe Trump can afford to lose Indiana. Also, Sanders might have a chance in CT and RI, though I'm still hesitant to buy these numbers.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Seriously? on April 25, 2016, 10:26:55 am
How many delegates would Trump secure tomorrow if those are the results?
I have him somewhere between 95 and 106 of the 118 pledged delegates.

If Trump breaks 60% in RI, he's in the 10-11 delegate range in the state depending on the breakdown. Cruz/Kasich will get 4-5 each in how the rules go.  If Trump ends up with 50%, we're looking at 9-10 range of the 19 total.

I gave Kasich/Cruz a 1-4 CDs in MD in my estimate as well.

DE is WTA. CT > 50% is WTA. PA is WTA for the 17 pledged.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Seriously? on April 25, 2016, 10:30:41 am
If PPP is about right, could Cruz be in danger of not clearing the 10% threshold for a delegate in the RI 1st congressional district?  I'm assuming that would be the district he'd do worse in.
Probably not. There are just 2 CDs. You'd think in a state that small, there won't be a ton of variance. RI-1 is D+15, RI-2 is D+8. If there is one he'd tank in it's RI-1. But unlikely. He'll either crash in both CDs or get the participation delegates.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 11:04:21 am

Bernie ought to thank Lincoln Chafee (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=235210.0) for this development!


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Landslide Andy on April 25, 2016, 11:24:11 am
Remember back when PPP were paid Hillary shills? lol, good times.

First of all, 10 points is not close lmao. This RI poll looks a lot more realistic than the other one though.

If Trump wins by these kind of margins, will he bring the GOP to heel? They already seem to be slowly giving up on Cruz's zombie campaign. They don't seem to want to fall on their sword for him, which isn't unexpected considering they despise him as well.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Nat. Sec. Council Member Dwarven Dragon on April 25, 2016, 11:27:08 am
Hillary stopped paying PPP at some point in February.



Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on April 25, 2016, 11:33:06 am
Gosh, I love the northeast! So much! God bless this (part of the) country.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Lief 🐋 on April 25, 2016, 12:19:17 pm
To get a second delegate in a CD, Trump either has to get above 67% or keep Cruz under 10%.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Seriously? on April 25, 2016, 12:29:31 pm
What are the %age cutoffs for additional delegates in RI?  What would Trump have to do to get the next statewide delegate over 50%+1?  What about in each CD?  Do we think Trump is stronger in Providence or in western RI?  I would tend to think Providence given NYC?
It's really ridiculously high. you basically need 66.7% for it to go 2/1 and 90% to take all 3. Or you need a candidate to fall under 10%.

Rubio would be proud of the participation trophies.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Eastern Kentucky Demosaur fighting the long defeat on April 25, 2016, 05:32:57 pm
It's just more room for Ted CRUZ to EXCEED EXPECTATIONS!


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ljube on April 25, 2016, 06:29:02 pm

And this will be official in Indiana.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 25, 2016, 09:10:38 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ljube on April 25, 2016, 11:13:35 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 25, 2016, 11:21:48 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Xing on April 25, 2016, 11:22:55 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there are Republicans out there who won't vote for Trump, and I'd like to think it's a sizable chunk of the electorate, but I think most (including those in congress) are just going to hold their nose and vote for Trump. 90% of Republicans would vote for pile of toxic waste with an (R) next to its name.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 11:26:31 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There's a chance some Republican senators not up for reelection might speak out against him, but I'm skeptical that many congressmen will, unless they live in a district that was hostile to Trump in the primary.  They wouldn't want to alienate his fans.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ljube on April 26, 2016, 10:11:16 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Boston Bread on April 26, 2016, 10:11:39 pm
Dang! Great poll!


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Gass3268 on April 26, 2016, 10:13:49 pm
Good work by PPP!


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: BundouYMB on April 26, 2016, 10:17:33 pm

QFT! PPP always does great work & it's always great to see them get some appreciation for it!


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2016, 12:42:52 am
Good to see. It seems like they've recovered from some of their flops earlier in the cycle.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 27, 2016, 01:06:51 am

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


There's no modern era precedent for this many Republican politicians already saying that they won't support the nominee in November.  There's no precedent for this many of them refusing to endorse anyone, once a candidate is this far ahead in delegates.  They've had plenty of time to endorse Trump.  The fact that his endorsements among Republican elites so far are so few, given where he stands in the race for the nomination right now, suggests to me that plenty of them will still not endorse him after he's nominated.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Vosem on April 27, 2016, 01:21:36 am

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


Absolutely. Michael Foot, a totally unacceptable leader, became leader of the Labour Party in the UK in 1980. In response, numerous Labour politicians left the party to form a new one. Many voters followed them and Foot led Labour to their worst result in 65 years -- in spite of consistently attracting the largest crowds and the most fervent supporters.

In America, George McGovern received the Democratic nomination and numerous Democrats (led by future President Jimmy Carter) fled for Nixon. Eight years earlier, Barry Goldwater received the Republican nomination and the same thing happened.

This happens all the time, Ljube. Trump supporters are not playing, but neither are Trump opponents, as you seem bizarrely convinced is the case.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Desroko on April 27, 2016, 01:55:17 am

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


Absolutely. Michael Foot, a totally unacceptable leader, became leader of the Labour Party in the UK in 1980. In response, numerous Labour politicians left the party to form a new one. Many voters followed them and Foot led Labour to their worst result in 65 years -- in spite of consistently attracting the largest crowds and the most fervent supporters.

In America, George McGovern received the Democratic nomination and numerous Democrats (led by future President Jimmy Carter) fled for Nixon. Eight years earlier, Barry Goldwater received the Republican nomination and the same thing happened.

This happens all the time, Ljube. Trump supporters are not playing, but neither are Trump opponents, as you seem bizarrely convinced is the case.

A common thread among Trumpeters and Sandernistas is that all this is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED AND HISTORIC, when really it happens fairly regularly. People who can't be bothered to learn registration deadlines or delegate selection rules can't be expected to know who McGovern and Goldwater were.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ljube on April 27, 2016, 12:55:31 pm

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


Absolutely. Michael Foot, a totally unacceptable leader, became leader of the Labour Party in the UK in 1980. In response, numerous Labour politicians left the party to form a new one. Many voters followed them and Foot led Labour to their worst result in 65 years -- in spite of consistently attracting the largest crowds and the most fervent supporters.

In America, George McGovern received the Democratic nomination and numerous Democrats (led by future President Jimmy Carter) fled for Nixon. Eight years earlier, Barry Goldwater received the Republican nomination and the same thing happened.

This happens all the time, Ljube. Trump supporters are not playing, but neither are Trump opponents, as you seem bizarrely convinced is the case.

I am sorry, but Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon were both quite moderate and could be tolerated by the other party. Hillary Clinton is poison.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Shadows on May 01, 2016, 03:16:06 am

Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


Absolutely. Michael Foot, a totally unacceptable leader, became leader of the Labour Party in the UK in 1980. In response, numerous Labour politicians left the party to form a new one. Many voters followed them and Foot led Labour to their worst result in 65 years -- in spite of consistently attracting the largest crowds and the most fervent supporters.

In America, George McGovern received the Democratic nomination and numerous Democrats (led by future President Jimmy Carter) fled for Nixon. Eight years earlier, Barry Goldwater received the Republican nomination and the same thing happened.

This happens all the time, Ljube. Trump supporters are not playing, but neither are Trump opponents, as you seem bizarrely convinced is the case.

I am sorry, but Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon were both quite moderate and could be tolerated by the other party. Hillary Clinton is poison.

Nixon was horrible, absolute sh** - I would take Clinton over Nixon anyday.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Landslide Andy on May 01, 2016, 03:37:08 am
Since I don't think this is worthy of a new thread....PPP is leaking part of their WV poll, and everything is exactly as you'd expect.

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Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on May 06, 2016, 10:15:00 pm
*bump*


Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


I will now accept my accolades:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=230807.225

Yeah, now that Trump is the de facto nominee, #NeverTrump sure is "toast".  It's like the PUMAs all over again, right?


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Ljube on May 09, 2016, 01:48:40 pm
*bump*


Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


I will now accept my accolades:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=230807.225

Yeah, now that Trump is the de facto nominee, #NeverTrump sure is "toast".  It's like the PUMAs all over again, right?


It is like PUMA. Remember, it took some months before PUMA completely disappeared. Come back in four months.


Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Fargobison on May 09, 2016, 02:38:11 pm
#NeverTrump is absolutely nothing like the PUMA thing to compare the two is crazy.



Title: Re: PPP PA/CT/RI close on Democratic side, large Trump leads
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 08, 2016, 01:08:06 pm
*bump*


Again, #NeverTrump is Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election.  It isn't toast unless/until Trump is elected president.


It is toast when Trump becomes the nominee, the same way PUMA was toast when Obama became the nominee.

Unlike with the PUMAs, there are way too many high profile Republicans (both politicians and conservative media types) who've thrown in their lot with #NeverTrump for all of them to backtrack now.  There is no going back.

For that matter, I think #NeverTrump will grow among Republicans in Congress after Trump is nominated.  As of now, many of them have simply dodged the question as to whether they would endorse him if he's nominated.  But once he is nominated, it's no longer a hypothetical.  They'll have to choose.


There you go again.

Sometimes it seems like you live on another planet.
Perhaps you are just playing with us, Trump supporters.

It's just not happening in the real world. Can you give an example of anything remotely similar to what you're saying happening anywhere in the world ever?


I will now accept my accolades:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=230807.225

Yeah, now that Trump is the de facto nominee, #NeverTrump sure is "toast".  It's like the PUMAs all over again, right?


It is like PUMA. Remember, it took some months before PUMA completely disappeared. Come back in four months.

*bump*

It's 5 months later now, and virtually none of the previously #NeverTrump Republican politicians have backed down.  Instead, the list is still growing.

#NeverTrump sure is "toast", huh?  :P