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Title: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 01:16:17 pm
Conducted April 21-24, MoE +/- 5%

MD:
Trump 55%
Kasich 21%
Cruz 19%

Clinton 50%
Sanders 44%

PA:
Clinton 58%
Sanders 38%

Trump 50%
Cruz 23%
Kasich 21%

http://americanresearchgroup.com

I'm guessing they surveyed one or two people in Baltimore and the DC suburbs.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: This account no longer in use. on April 25, 2016, 01:20:18 pm
lol arg


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Fusionmunster on April 25, 2016, 01:20:30 pm
I could buy the PA numbers but the MD numbers are seriously screwed up.  


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Tender Branson on April 25, 2016, 01:22:47 pm
Translation:

Sanders will get destroyed in MD, but is within 10% in PA.

Trump only ahead of Cruz or Kasich by around 10% in PA, as well as in MD.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: swf541 on April 25, 2016, 01:23:29 pm
Numbers actually look pretty accurate....... Guess a broken clock is right once in a while or whatever

EDIT: Wait looked at those MD dem numbers, yea no, thats pretty off


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Fusionmunster on April 25, 2016, 01:27:05 pm
Translation:

Sanders will get destroyed in MD, but is within 10% in PA.

Trump only ahead of Cruz or Kasich by around 10% in PA, as well as in MD.

I dont think there is a translation for ARGs crummy polling, they've drifted between somewhat on the mark to completely off with their polls this cycle.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 01:29:23 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: IceSpear on April 25, 2016, 01:31:15 pm
Is this a joke? Seriously though, why are they still polling. They were like 15 points off the Dem race in Wisconsin and like 30 points off the Republican side.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Likely Voter on April 25, 2016, 01:33:24 pm
Maybe they accidentally swapped their Dem PA and MD numbers


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Mehmentum on April 25, 2016, 01:34:08 pm
Shame on ARG for giving r/Sandersforpresident false hope.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Torie on April 25, 2016, 01:34:43 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.

Trump is not going to win every delegate in PA even if he wins every CD.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Tender Branson on April 25, 2016, 01:35:02 pm
Maybe they accidentally swapped their Dem PA and MD numbers

Accidentally ?

LOL.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: yankeesfan on April 25, 2016, 01:35:04 pm
ARG has zero credibility.  This thread should be deleted. 


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Gass3268 on April 25, 2016, 01:35:23 pm
These polls are awful, but if that Trump number is even close to true, he'll get all 38 delegates out of the state.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 01:36:18 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.

Trump is not going to win every delegate in PA even if he wins every CD.

Oh, I know that, but we won't know how the unbound delegates vote until the convention.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Gass3268 on April 25, 2016, 01:36:35 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.

Trump is not going to win every delegate in PA even if he wins every CD.

No, but if he wins every CD he'll probably get like 80-90% of the PA delegates.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Gass3268 on April 25, 2016, 01:40:04 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.

Trump is not going to win every delegate in PA even if he wins every CD.

Oh, I know that, but we won't know how the unbound delegates vote until the convention.

Actually, we know how most of them will vote. Most of them have declared that they will support Cruz, Trump, or whoever wins their district. NBC has said that they will count the unbound delegates from PA for the campaign they state they will support.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Ronnie on April 25, 2016, 02:13:04 pm
As terrible as these polls are, they do raise the interesting and ironic possibility that Trump wins every delegate in every state tomorrow, except his strongest one, Rhode Island.

Trump is not going to win every delegate in PA even if he wins every CD.

Oh, I know that, but we won't know how the unbound delegates vote until the convention.

Actually, we know how most of them will vote. Most of them have declared that they will support Cruz, Trump, or whoever wins their district. NBC has said that they will count the unbound delegates from PA for the campaign they state they will support.

They might say they'll do one thing, but they can still change their minds until or at the convention.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: NV less likely to flip than FL on April 25, 2016, 03:16:24 pm
Right, and Sanders will win Delaware while losing Connecticut by 25. Go home, ARG, you're drunk (as usual.)


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Eraserhead on April 25, 2016, 06:34:32 pm
ARG is producing some true gems this cycle. We should be thankful for such comedy gold.


Title: PA PrimD: ARG: Clinton Leads in Pennsylvania
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:06:02 pm
New Poll: Pennsylvania President by ARG on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4220160424001)

Summary:
Clinton:
58%
Sanders:
38%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/dem/padem.html)



Title: MD PrimD: ARG: Clinton with Slight Lead in Maryland
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:07:15 pm
New Poll: Maryland President by ARG on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2420160424001)

Summary:
Clinton:
50%
Sanders:
44%
Other:
1%
Undecided:
5%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/dem/mddem.html)



Title: MD PrimR: ARG: Trump with Big Lead in Maryland
Post by: Dave Leip on April 25, 2016, 08:10:06 pm
New Poll: Maryland President by ARG on 2016-04-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2420160424001)

Summary:
Trump:
55%
Kasich:
21%
Cruz:
19%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
5%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/rep/parep.html)



Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Fargobison on April 26, 2016, 05:06:14 pm
Quote
MD:
Clinton 50%
Sanders 44%

Is this going to top Wisconsin in how far off it is?


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on April 26, 2016, 06:32:05 pm
ARG needs to just die already.


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Ronnie on April 26, 2016, 08:58:54 pm
Quote
MD:
Trump 55%
Kasich 21%
Cruz 19%

We might be looking at a new gold standard, folks!


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: swf541 on April 26, 2016, 09:15:28 pm
ARG needs to just die already.

Agreed, we should ban them as well


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: IceSpear on April 26, 2016, 10:52:23 pm
LMAO


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: dax00 on April 26, 2016, 10:56:42 pm
ARG was SPOT-ON on the Republican side (Maryland) - great poll!


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2016, 12:44:57 am
ARG was SPOT-ON on the Republican side (Maryland) - great poll!

Yeah, they were just slightly off on the Democratic side. :P


Title: Re: ARG - MD and PA: Trump & Clinton lead
Post by: IceSpear on April 27, 2016, 12:46:09 am
I'm honestly wondering if they really did accidentally flip the PA/MD Dem numbers, and nobody bothered to contact them and ask since nobody cares about ARG.