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Title: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: MT Treasurer on May 25, 2016, 10:19:39 AM Donald Trump (R): 43%
Hillary Clinton (D): 41% Gary Johnson (L): 3% Jill Stein (G): 2% Donald Trump (R): 47% Hillary Clinton (D): 43% Bernie Sanders (D): 43% Donald Trump (R): 40% Gary Johnson (L): 3% Jill Stein (G): 2% Bernie Sanders (D): 48% Donald Trump (R): 44% http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/trump-burr-have-small-leads-in-north-carolina.html Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Angrie on May 25, 2016, 10:36:13 AM So, 2012 all over again.
It is funny that Stein gets the same % with Bernie as she does with Hillary as the Dem nominee. It is also funny that different pollsters get such different numbers for Gary Johnson. Morning Call is an internet pollster whereas PPP is automated phone, so maybe the Paulites have started to invade and skew internet polls. Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on May 25, 2016, 10:56:37 AM Deeply troubling.
RIP : ( Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Crumpets on May 25, 2016, 11:00:24 AM Lol. Stein's share stays exactly the same with or without Sanders.
But yeah, he should totally be her running mate. Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: mds32 on May 25, 2016, 11:03:34 AM I think North Carolina is acting the same way as in 2012. Flirts with the Democrats, but in the end goes to the GOP.
My prediction this far out is that NC goes for Trump by a slightly higher margin than for Romney in 2012. 51-47 Trump Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: psychprofessor on May 25, 2016, 11:25:00 AM another red state moving into the toss-up category
Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Angrie on May 25, 2016, 11:32:23 AM another red state moving into the toss-up category But I think earlier polls actually had it more competitive, some with Clinton ahead? Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: libertpaulian on May 25, 2016, 11:33:57 AM I think North Carolina is acting the same way as in 2012. Flirts with the Democrats, but in the end goes to the GOP. My prediction this far out is that NC goes for Trump by a slightly higher margin than for Romney in 2012. 51-47 Trump Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: EliteLX on May 25, 2016, 12:33:37 PM another red state moving into the toss-up category Uhh.. wuh? In regards to 2012 margins, this state should be within easy grasps of Hillary with an opponent like Donald Trump. She should be ashamed that she can't shut down the most targetable candidate in political history in a state like this. You act like she's holding Trump within 3-4% margins in Kentucky or something. Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: john cage bubblegum on May 25, 2016, 04:06:33 PM Given that we're currently at an approximate tie nationally, a 2-4 point Trump lead fits about right given that NC voted 6 points more R than the country in 2012.
If Clinton were to win the national PV by the same margin as Obama 2012, NC would be razor close, probably less than a point victory either way. Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Vern on May 25, 2016, 10:33:20 PM I believe Clinton will end up winning NC, once the ads start up this will go back to being a tie to a very small Clinton lead.
Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: Ebsy on May 26, 2016, 01:49:12 AM I do not believe Jill Stein will actually be on the ballot in North Carolina.
Title: Re: NC-PPP: Trump +2/ +4 without Johnson and Stein Post by: pbrower2a on May 26, 2016, 07:35:35 AM The last two really-close binary elections:
2004, NC -- Dubya 56, Kerry 43 2000, NC -- Dubya 56, Gore 43 To win the Presidency, Trump needs to win all the potentially-critical states of Colorado, Florida, Ohio, and Virginia... or make big strides in states like Iowa, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania that have not gone for a Republican nominee for President more than once since at least 1988. The 1990s: 1996, NC -- Clinton 44, Gore 48, Perot 7 1992, NC -- Clinton 42.7, Bush 43.4, Perot 14 |