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Title: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: HillOfANight on June 06, 2016, 02:05:42 pm
http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-utah-polling/

Also, Trump 36 Clinton 29

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Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Crumpets on June 06, 2016, 02:07:35 pm
Maybe Johnson can get into a Utah-issues-only debate.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Peters/Daines more vulnerable than Shaheen/Ernst on June 06, 2016, 02:09:36 pm
Just when I thought this stupid Utah meme had stopped....


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: IceSpear on June 06, 2016, 02:11:53 pm
Wow, French tied Trump! Just when he dropped out too. :'(


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: President Johnson on June 06, 2016, 02:14:02 pm
Utah doesn't want a smart businessman, although I think that poll is total junk. TRUMP will win Utah, though by a smaller margin than previos Republicans. Maybe with 55%.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: HillOfANight on June 06, 2016, 02:16:20 pm
I had no idea Utah had so many Mormons... If the polls keep up, this one would be more achievable for Clinton than Georgia.

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Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: LLR on June 06, 2016, 02:25:09 pm
LOL!!!!


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Dom. Pol. Councilor Dwarven Dragon on June 06, 2016, 02:25:32 pm
>Gravis
>including a generic "other" option


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: BetoBro on June 06, 2016, 02:29:42 pm
The Mormons' sexism is just as appalling as this poll result. Gosh, can you imagine the results had Gary Johnson been Mary Johnson?


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 06, 2016, 02:36:46 pm
Utah doesn't want a smart businessman,
how do you draw that conclusion? mitt romney was both smarter and a better businessman than the stubby-fingered rapist.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Vosem on June 06, 2016, 02:52:19 pm
Pretty good result for this early out, with name recognition still low and no endorsements from Republican politicians. 13 points against someone so detested with 21% undecided is definitely doable.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Holmes on June 06, 2016, 02:54:40 pm
I've always wanted a Gravis poll of Utah.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Ebsy on June 06, 2016, 03:32:00 pm
What is this junk?


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: IDS Ex-Speaker Ben Kenobi on June 06, 2016, 04:35:30 pm
It's happening. Wow.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Green Line on June 06, 2016, 06:02:18 pm
It shouldn't surprise anyone that Clinton only trails by 3 in the most conservative state in the country. 


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: yeah_93 on June 06, 2016, 06:17:33 pm
A Utah Gravis poll. Just what I was waiting.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Eraserhead on June 06, 2016, 07:16:36 pm
Will Stein be on the ballot in Utah?


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: pbrower2a on June 06, 2016, 07:50:14 pm
I'm going to need to put out or revive a three-way map. I see good cause to believe that Gary Johnson will fare far stronger than the usual independent or third-party candidate.

2000 Nader          2.7
1996 Perot           8.4
1992 Perot         18.9
1980 Anderson     6.6
1968 Wallace      13.5
1948 Thurmond    2.4
1948 Wallace       2.4
1924 LaFollette    2.4
1920 Debs           3.4
1916 Benson       3.1

...This will not be a repeat of 1912.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Fubart Solman on June 06, 2016, 10:10:25 pm
I'm going to need to put out or revive a three-way map. I see good cause to believe that Gary Johnson will fare far stronger than the usual independent or third-party candidate.

2000 Nader          2.7
1996 Perot           8.4
1992 Perot         18.9
1980 Anderson     6.6
1968 Wallace      13.5
1948 Thurmond    2.4
1948 Wallace       2.4
1924 LaFollette    2.4
1920 Debs           3.4
1916 Benson       3.1

...This will not be a repeat of 1912.


LaFollette got 16.6% in 1924


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: HillOfANight on June 06, 2016, 10:19:51 pm
https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/740016658333466624

Most likely Utah outcome: bottom drops out for Johnson once voters learn he's pro-pot/pro-choice, Rs come home, turnout plunges, Trump wins.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Zioneer on June 06, 2016, 10:26:43 pm
Will Stein be on the ballot in Utah?

Wikipedia says no, but I don't know for sure.

Anyway, this is hilarious, though it's also Gravis and thus probably not accurate, plus what the tweet from McKay Coppins (a reporter who happens to be Mormon, and thus pretty well informed on these things) said.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Mercenary on June 07, 2016, 06:26:49 am
Johnson wins Utah. Election thrown to the house. Johnson wins. Utah saves the US.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: mds32 on June 07, 2016, 07:45:45 am
Pretty good poll, and btw anyone notice they got bumped up to a B- rating now?


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on June 07, 2016, 09:28:34 am
Johnson should run a three-state campaign in Utah, Idaho, and Alaska. With a few million in funding from the Koch Brothers, he might actually win some EVs that way.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Sir Mohamed on June 07, 2016, 09:32:02 am
LOL! Really LOL! The Trumpster is in trouble in one of the deepest red states.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on June 07, 2016, 09:37:11 am
I know the interior west is sparsely populated, but this lends credence to the possibility of Trump losing by 2-3 nationally and winning the electoral college, which I'd have never guessed possible.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Angrie on June 07, 2016, 11:53:04 am
My analysis:

Utah voters are angry and dislike all of the candidates. As they well should.

We are going to need more Utah polling as this thing chugs along.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Dr. RI on June 07, 2016, 12:38:26 pm
Johnson wins Utah. Election thrown to the house. Johnson wins. Utah saves the US.

> Libertarian president
> US saved

Pick one.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Hammy on June 08, 2016, 02:48:15 pm
I know the interior west is sparsely populated, but this lends credence to the possibility of Trump losing by 2-3 nationally and winning the electoral college, which I'd have never guessed possible.

The EC as a whole is stacked in the Republicans favor, if someone is going to lose the PV but win the EV it's almost always going to be a Republican due to more rural (i.e. acreage) support. To me the possibility isn't particularly surprising.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: RR1997 on June 08, 2016, 02:57:15 pm
Johnson wins Utah. Election thrown to the house. Johnson wins. Utah saves the US.
lol this is actually possible:

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Hillary Clinton: 265 EV's
Donald Trump: 267 EV's
Gary Johnson: 6 EV's


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Arch on June 08, 2016, 02:59:41 pm
Johnson wins Utah. Election thrown to the house. Johnson wins. Utah saves the US.
lol this is actually possible:

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Hillary Clinton: 265 EV's
Donald Trump: 267 EV's
Gary Johnson: 6 EV's

I REFUSE


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: Rick Grimes on June 09, 2016, 02:27:03 pm
wow this is really bad for trump if the kingmakers are upset with him.


Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: HillOfANight on June 10, 2016, 03:38:15 pm
http://www.sltrib.com/news/3992083-155/doug-owens-leading-rep-mia-love

Somewhat relevant

Rep. Mia Love is in trouble, according to a new Salt Lake Tribune/Hinckley Institute poll, which shows the freshman Republican trailing Democrat Doug Owens by 6 percentage points in Utah's highly watched 4th Congressional District.

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Title: Re: Utah Gravis: Trump 29 Clinton 26 Johnson 16
Post by: RJEvans on June 10, 2016, 03:43:19 pm
Johnson should run a three-state campaign in Utah, Idaho, and Alaska. With a few million in funding from the Koch Brothers, he might actually win some EVs that way.

Looks like he should ass KS as well. I think this is a great strategy to get EVs. It's relatively inexpensive. Just park himself in these states, run positive ads for Johnson and negative ads for Trump and he may be able to win.