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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Fargobison on June 10, 2016, 11:32:06 AM



Title: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Fargobison on June 10, 2016, 11:32:06 AM
Zogby is back again...

Clinton 43
Trump 36

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2016/jun/10/poll-shows-clinton-leading-in-kansas-bro/


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 10, 2016, 11:33:58 AM
o_O


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on June 10, 2016, 11:34:38 AM
Whoever pays Zogby to do polling should be arrested for extreme stupidity.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on June 10, 2016, 11:34:58 AM
Whoever pays Zogby to do polling should be arrested for extreme stupidity.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
Did I fall in a time warp back to 2013?


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Tender Branson on June 10, 2016, 11:39:29 AM
Plz ban.

Thx.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Vosem on June 10, 2016, 11:40:01 AM
Obama plz drone


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on June 10, 2016, 11:40:06 AM
That said, if you combine TRUMP and Brownback the Republican brand must have taken a hell of a beating in the state.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 10, 2016, 11:40:43 AM
That said, if you combine TRUMP and Brownback the Republican brand must have taken a hell of a beating in the state.

The only reason why I see this as a marginal possibility.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Holmes on June 10, 2016, 11:41:02 AM
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Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 11:43:12 AM
That said, if you combine TRUMP and Brownback the Republican brand must have taken a hell of a beating in the state.

The only reason why I see this as a marginal possibility.

Which means that even if it was true, Trump would easily win anyway. See 2014.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: F_S_USATN on June 10, 2016, 11:43:36 AM
inb4 thats the same percentage Dukakis got too


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: / on June 10, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
XD


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Maxwell on June 10, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
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Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: HillOfANight on June 10, 2016, 11:48:34 AM
http://www2.ljworld.com/documents/2016/jun/10/zogby-kansas-poll-june-2016/
http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/news/documents/2016/06/10/Zogby_Poll_PP_Slides-1.pptx

tbh it's pretty neat


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: heatcharger on June 10, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
Clinton is obviously not leading by 7, but it wouldn't surprise me if this state trends D cause of Brownback and company.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Iowa is safe R because of white people.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Xing on June 10, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
^Let's also not forget about Illinois and Connecticut being competitive, because muh Trump strategy and muh 2014 gubernatorial races.

Anywaym, gud work, Zogby. This is why we shouldn't trust polls in Safe R/D states.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: mds32 on June 10, 2016, 12:25:36 PM
No one in their right minds better try and put this in the average.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Joe Republic on June 10, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Kansas polling has been pretty flawless for a while, as Senator Orman and Governor Davis can attest.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
No one in their right minds better try and put this in the average.

Unfortunately, many people here have no standards. We literally added fraudulent polls (Overtime) and someone added that partisan Oregon poll nobody's ever heard of. So it wouldn't surprise me if Kansas is soon a toss up on the map. :P


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Ebsy on June 10, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
The poll demographics are way too educated and way too young.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Beefalow and the Consumer on June 10, 2016, 01:35:07 PM
#Analysis time!

States that are a VA 2008 waiting to happen

Alaska
Georgia
Kansas
Utah

States that are a WV 2000 waiting to happen

Maine
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Iowa
Michigan

Did I forget any state?

Texas, cause muh Latinos.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: SATW on June 10, 2016, 01:36:44 PM
lmao


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 10, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
No one in their right minds better try and put this in the average.

Unfortunately, many people here have no standards. We literally added fraudulent polls (Overtime) and someone added that partisan Oregon poll nobody's ever heard of. So it wouldn't surprise me if Kansas is soon a toss up on the map. :P

If they added that OR poll, this should be added as well.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: tinman64 on June 10, 2016, 01:52:30 PM
Kansas - Lean D!


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Reginald on June 10, 2016, 02:57:22 PM
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No comment.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Rick Grimes on June 10, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
KS is a good state to flip.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Ebsy on June 10, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
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From the 2012 exit polls.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Eraserhead on June 10, 2016, 03:00:10 PM
Does this mean that Sanders would be up by double digits here? lol.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 03:21:54 PM

LMAO!


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on June 10, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
I think we might be seeing a reversal of the urban/rural split, or maybe the GOP is collapsing in the rural areas like they did in the urban areas in the 2000s. But I won't be sure unless the Democrats do better in Appalachia.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: ElectionsGuy on June 10, 2016, 05:21:57 PM
Zogby - The Dick Morris of polling.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Angrie on June 10, 2016, 06:09:17 PM
On the bright side, this should be more accurate than the Fort Hays poll of the Kansas Democratic caucus...


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: NOVA Green on June 10, 2016, 06:17:39 PM
What's the matter with Kansas anyways?


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Skye on June 10, 2016, 06:34:04 PM
What's the matter with Kansas anyways?
Well, it would be super interesting if Clinton were to be actually winning the state. However, since this is pure junk, we can move on.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: NOVA Green on June 10, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
What's the matter with Kansas anyways?
Well, it would be super interesting if Clinton were to be actually winning the state. However, since this is pure junk, we can move on.

Totally agreed is a junk poll and Kansas is not in play this year.... it just reminded me of that book written about 10 years ago "What's the Matter with Kansas" that tries to explain the collapse of support for the Democratic Party among working-class Whites in parts of the North over a previous few decades.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Desroko on June 10, 2016, 07:55:43 PM
What's the matter with Kansas anyways?
Well, it would be super interesting if Clinton were to be actually winning the state. However, since this is pure junk, we can move on.

Totally agreed is a junk poll and Kansas is not in play this year.... it just reminded me of that book written about 10 years ago "What's the Matter with Kansas" that tries to explain the collapse of support for the Democratic Party among working-class Whites in parts of the North over a previous few decades.

Thomas Frank was merely dressing up one of the stupider trends in late Bush era Democratic strategy, personified by human jean jacket Mudcat Saunders: No matter what the problem is, the answer is always to pander to conservative white people.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: LLR on June 10, 2016, 08:22:47 PM

Tfw you understand how charts work


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: pbrower2a on June 10, 2016, 08:24:28 PM
Sure, it's Zogby. But can Zogby do a poll so ludicrous that it gives Clinton a 7-point lead?

Of course I would like to see how Gary Johnson does in Kansas in a three-way race (and this will be a three-way race).

There's something to this poll. Don't like it? Then wait for another. We so far have no polls of the Dakotas or of Nebraska.

The race for US Senator got surprisingly close for the incumbent US Senator during a wave year for Republicans. The Governor is terribly unpopular. The GOP is rifted.

  


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: IceSpear on June 10, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
Sure, it's Zogby. But can Zogby do a poll so ludicrous that it gives Clinton a 7-point lead?

...yes?


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Desroko on June 10, 2016, 08:36:48 PM
Sure, it's Zogby. But can Zogby do a poll so ludicrous that it gives Clinton a 7-point lead?

...yes?

Zogby Interactive's polling was legendarily bad. So bad that he was temporarily shamed into leaving the industry. I haven't paid any attention to Analytics since, which is a distinction extended only to them and Gravis.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: Seriously? on June 10, 2016, 09:37:01 PM
Zogpiss. Yeah Kansas is in play. Sure.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 10, 2016, 10:01:32 PM
LOL!


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: HAnnA MArin County on June 11, 2016, 04:23:24 AM
I'm calling on Donald J. Trump to announce plans to build a wall around Zogby and make Kansas pay for it.


Title: Re: KS- John Zogby Strategies: Clinton +7
Post by: President Johnson on June 11, 2016, 04:56:00 AM
Of course, and TRUMP will win DC. JUNK.