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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Fargobison on August 08, 2016, 06:52:29 PM



Title: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Fargobison on August 08, 2016, 06:52:29 PM
Trump 44
Clinton 42
Johnson 5
Stein 2

https://www.stlmag.com/news/in-missouri-voter-polls-president-governor/


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Devout Centrist on August 08, 2016, 06:53:39 PM
Must resist the urge to call junk...


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: 136or142 on August 08, 2016, 06:53:57 PM
I trust these guys.  They make good razors.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: The Other Castro on August 08, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
I don't know who these people are, but the numbers look about where I'd imagine they are.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: dspNY on August 08, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
Correlates well with the 538 Nowcast (Trump narrowly leads in MO)


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Xing on August 08, 2016, 07:01:39 PM
If Trump does lose as badly as the polls are suggesting, MO could be quite close.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Ebsy on August 08, 2016, 07:01:49 PM
Remington is Jeff Roe (Cruz's scummy campaign manager)'s firm. I don't know if their polls are biased against Democrats or not, but they have not reason to be boosting Hillary's numbers.


Title: MO: Other Source: Trump up 2 in Missouri
Post by: IceSpear on August 08, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
New Poll: Missouri President by Other Source on 2016-08-06 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2920160806106)

Summary: D: 42%, R: 44%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (https://www.stlmag.com/news/in-missouri-voter-polls-president-governor/)


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: psychprofessor on August 08, 2016, 07:04:33 PM
he really is down double digits if his lead in MO is only 2 and only 13 in Kentucky. I want a SC poll real bad now.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: dspNY on August 08, 2016, 07:04:52 PM
Remington is Jeff Roe (Cruz's scummy campaign manager)'s firm. I don't know if their polls are biased against Democrats or not, but they have not reason to be boosting Hillary's numbers.

Since he probably detests them both, he most likely told the firm to take an honest poll. I think these numbers right now are correct or very close to correct


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Wells on August 08, 2016, 07:08:30 PM
This looks right, though I wish Clinton were higher.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 08, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
Yeah, I've never bought this idea of MO being out of reach of Clinton. Yes, it's shifted to the right, but you do have suburban whites who voted Obama/Romney and aren't exactly thrilled by Trump.

Gut call is that Trump would win it by 3-4 right now, but really in this case, calling any state that was close in 2008 to be out of reach for Clinton, all things being equal, is pretty silly.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Maxwell on August 08, 2016, 07:28:32 PM
wow i really didn't think Clinton had any shot at missouri, but this is a right-wing pollster.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Suburbia on August 08, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
Clinton could have a chance in Missouri. However, if she campaigns and spends money in Missouri, she could alienate voters who plan on voting for Jason Kander-Senate and Chris Koster-Governor. Roy Blunt already put out ads months ago tying Kander to Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGlJF_KGF4


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Ebsy on August 08, 2016, 07:58:23 PM
Their last poll was Trump +6 iirc.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 08, 2016, 08:16:11 PM
Clinton could have a chance in Missouri. However, if she campaigns and spends money in Missouri, she could alienate voters who plan on voting for Jason Kander-Senate and Chris Koster-Governor. Roy Blunt already put out ads months ago tying Kander to Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGlJF_KGF4

Yes... but if Clinton is on the climb, how is that bad?


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: The Other Castro on August 08, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
Clinton could have a chance in Missouri. However, if she campaigns and spends money in Missouri, she could alienate voters who plan on voting for Jason Kander-Senate and Chris Koster-Governor. Roy Blunt already put out ads months ago tying Kander to Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGlJF_KGF4

Yes... but if Clinton is on the climb, how is that bad?

Clearly it will encourage ticket splitting for the Clinton/Anti-Clinton voters.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2016, 08:42:31 PM
I realize the demographics have shifted there since then, and McCain didn't invest much in MO either, but I've always had trouble calling a state Obama came within a fraction of a point from winning just 8 years ago to be truly out of reach for Hillary.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Adam Griffin on August 08, 2016, 08:46:59 PM
This firm has released several polls in recent times, yet 538 doesn't have a rating for it. Hmm.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Suburbia on August 08, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
Clinton could have a chance in Missouri. However, if she campaigns and spends money in Missouri, she could alienate voters who plan on voting for Jason Kander-Senate and Chris Koster-Governor. Roy Blunt already put out ads months ago tying Kander to Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGlJF_KGF4

Yes... but if Clinton is on the climb, how is that bad?

True. McCaskill didn't tie herself to Obama in 2012..she didn't need to. She faced the ultraconservative Todd Akin. Robin Carnahan was probably damaged from Obama's visit in 2010 against Roy Blunt. Kander could campaign with Clinton to mobilize black voters.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: pbrower2a on August 08, 2016, 11:12:28 PM

Not fool's gold for the Senate race.



Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 08, 2016, 11:13:27 PM

The dem is a good candidate, but I expect Blunt to run a few points ahead of Trump.


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: ProudModerate2 on August 09, 2016, 01:00:27 AM
Clinton could have a chance in Missouri. However, if she campaigns and spends money in Missouri, she could alienate voters who plan on voting for Jason Kander-Senate and Chris Koster-Governor. Roy Blunt already put out ads months ago tying Kander to Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGlJF_KGF4

Yes... but if Clinton is on the climb, how is that bad?

True. McCaskill didn't tie herself to Obama in 2012..she didn't need to. She faced the ultraconservative Todd Akin. Robin Carnahan was probably damaged from Obama's visit in 2010 against Roy Blunt. Kander could campaign with Clinton to mobilize black voters.

Ultraconservative Todd Akin ? !
That's putting it mildly, don't you think ?


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: pbrower2a on August 09, 2016, 02:10:16 AM
This may be a very partisan pollster who gets results usually more favorable to Republicans than is justified -- but for a state that went by nearly 10% against Barack Obama, this is awful.   


Title: Re: MO- Remington Research: Trump +2
Post by: jamestroll on August 09, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
This firm has released several polls in recent times, yet 538 doesn't have a rating for it. Hmm.

This company has generally been a bit GOP biased in Missouri. Given Clinton's national margin, I am not surprised to see the two essentially tied in Missouri.

Of course, at the end, Trump will win the state and Democrats will hold the governorship. Both both could be close finishes.