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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Fargobison on August 16, 2016, 12:33:02 PM



Title: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Fargobison on August 16, 2016, 12:33:02 PM
Clinton: 48
Trump: 39
Johnson: 6
Stein: 1

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_FL_081616.asp


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Wells on August 16, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Poor Trump. No wonder he's given up.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Fargobison on August 16, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
In the Senate race Rubio leads Murphy 48-43


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Xing on August 16, 2016, 12:37:53 PM
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Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: mds32 on August 16, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Rubio is running 14 points past Donald Trump. Floridians are clearly going to be doing a lot of ticket-splitting.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: F_S_USATN on August 16, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
So basically it will be easier for Clinton to flip UT and TX than it will for Trump to flip FL and OH(2 states that HRC wont need)


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Ronnie on August 16, 2016, 12:42:48 PM
Gosh, I really should have saved the gif of the Titanic sinking and people jumping overboard.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: psychprofessor on August 16, 2016, 12:43:01 PM
trump needs to focus on holding alabama and mississippi at this rate


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: heatcharger on August 16, 2016, 12:43:05 PM
In the Senate race Rubio leads Murphy 48-43

Ugh. Why are there 13% of Democrats supporting Rubio? Hopefully the 8% of Democrats undecided get in line quick after the primary to carry Murphy over the top.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Wiz in Wis on August 16, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
Gosh, I really should have saved the gif of the Titanic sinking and people jumping overboard.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: psychprofessor on August 16, 2016, 12:44:36 PM
In the Senate race Rubio leads Murphy 48-43

Ugh. Why are there 13% of Democrats supporting Rubio? Hopefully the 8% of Democrats undecided get in line quick after the primary to carry Murphy over the top.

this will tighten up after the primary - if the election is lost for trump come october it may depress republican turnout


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 16, 2016, 01:00:09 PM
Hahaha wow. The hits just keep coming.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: dspNY on August 16, 2016, 01:03:39 PM
Oh Lord in Heaven please make this true

This poll has an R+5 sample with Clinton +9!!! That is nuts


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Rand on August 16, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
Nice. Must be the same Illegals participating in the poll two or three times, right Donald?


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Ebsy on August 16, 2016, 01:21:27 PM
I'm not sure we can trust the Senate numbers until after the primaries.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: pbrower2a on August 16, 2016, 01:24:07 PM
Killer poll against Trump.  When was the last time that a Democratic Presidential nominee won Florida by 9%? LBJ barely won Florida in 1964 as one of his weaker states. I'm guessing FDR. Florida more D than Michigan has happened (1976, Carter winning Florida but losing Michigan).

Florida is more likely up 5% for Clinton... but I am finding it increasingly hard to see Florida
as a possible Obama-to-Trump swing. Time is running out for Trump to win a state that he absolutely must win.  


Florida close to Safe D in the Presidential election? (Really I consider anything higher than an 8% lead 'safe' at this stage. That would put Hillary Clinton with 296 safe electoral votes in view of what several pollsters say of Colorado, New Hampshire, and Virginia, none of which has ever gone for a 10% for any Democratic nominee for President since at least LBJ in 1964.

With Trump up only 6% in Texas, of all places, I smell a landslide. I also see a wave election, one in which Republicans could regret gerrymandering Congressional district to leave lots of Slight R districts and few Slight D districts.

Democrats might as well now recognize that Mitt Romney was a fairly-good Presidential nominee who lost only because Barack Obama was too good a President to have a chance of losing the election. Romney would not win against Obama in a hypothetical election involving an unconstitutional Third Term...  but I think that he would defeat Hillary Clinton.

So much for the "Democratic hack" label upon me.  

Donald Trump is just simply awful. He reminds me in a way of the comedian Don Rickles, except that Don Rickles does not insult any but the high-and-mighty in Hollywood. Donald Trump insults people like schoolteachers, accountants, and nurses.  


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: indysaff on August 16, 2016, 01:32:53 PM
Grayson needs to go away already.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Holmes on August 16, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
When was the last time that a Democratic Presidential nominee won Florida by 9%?

1948. Truman won by a 15% margin, and was below 50%.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on August 16, 2016, 01:38:24 PM
Do elections have a mercy rule?


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: dspNY on August 16, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
You can get Clinton +9 and Rubio +5 if Cubans loathe Trump and split tickets


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Hammy on August 16, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
This isn't good news for Trump--Wasn't Florida something like R+2 at this point in 2012?


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Seriously? on August 16, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Oh Lord in Heaven please make this true

This poll has an R+5 sample with Clinton +9!!! That is nuts
This poll got reweighed quite a bit by Monmouth to get to the R+5 sample. They removed Democrats and Republicans from the sample to add more Indys. It was originally R+4 before the reweigh.

I don't know why they adjusted, they had a 52-48 F/M sample, went to 53/47. They only added 1% more minorities vs white. Odd it would be Indys/Rs adjusted by whatever they did though.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Holmes on August 16, 2016, 01:50:04 PM
This isn't good news for Trump--Wasn't Florida something like R+2 at this point in 2012?

Well, according to RCP, Romney was about 1 point ahead of Obama in Florida at this point. But a week and a half from today in 2012, the RNC began. And then the DNC began a week later, on the first week of September, and Obama led most polls of Florida throughout September. Then Obama had a disastrous first debate performance in early October and Romney led most of the polls in Florida for the remainder of the election season.

In the end, Florida was R+3 compared to the nation as a whole.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: ProudModerate2 on August 16, 2016, 01:59:05 PM
I'm sure this poll is driving our Mr Seriously bonkers ...
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Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: ProudModerate2 on August 16, 2016, 02:03:52 PM
Hahaha wow. The hits just keep coming.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Yank2133 on August 16, 2016, 02:09:32 PM
"Hello darkness my old friend....."


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: NOVA Green on August 16, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
A+ Pollster in a difficult state to poll.

How well does Monmouth do historically in polling Florida?


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Devils30 on August 16, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
What Romney counties will Hillary win? I'm thinking Sarasota, Seminole, Duval, Volusia (barely but only a small flip needed) and Hendry. Polk could be close.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on August 16, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Stunning. All that's left now is a Michigan poll.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Gass3268 on August 16, 2016, 03:14:56 PM
Wow, these are the LV numbers too!


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on August 16, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
We're one +5 poll away from RCP putting Florida into lean Clinton. That will finish off Trump.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: IceSpear on August 16, 2016, 10:16:32 PM
You can get Clinton +9 and Rubio +5 if Cubans loathe Trump and split tickets

Uh...I'm pretty sure that even if literally every single Cuban in the state voted for Clinton and Rubio that still wouldn't be big enough to cause that gap.

Anyway, beautiful poll!


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Fargobison on August 16, 2016, 10:21:11 PM
You can get Clinton +9 and Rubio +5 if Cubans loathe Trump and split tickets

Uh...I'm pretty sure that even if literally every single Cuban in the state voted for Clinton and Rubio that still wouldn't be big enough to cause that gap.

Anyway, beautiful poll!

True, there are some educated whites(especially women) likely also splitting tickets.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Holmes on August 16, 2016, 10:45:30 PM
You can get Clinton +9 and Rubio +5 if Cubans loathe Trump and split tickets

Uh...I'm pretty sure that even if literally every single Cuban in the state voted for Clinton and Rubio that still wouldn't be big enough to cause that gap.

Anyway, beautiful poll!

True, there are some educated whites(especially women) likely also splitting tickets.

This. It'll be the Murphy campaign and the Clinton campaign's jobs to get those women not to split their tickets.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Sir Mohamed on August 17, 2016, 08:58:17 AM
Wow, this is stunning, though I think the senate numbers will tighten after the primary. If the Trumpster loses FL by more than five points, it will be the biggest defeat in decades. And Hillary close to 50% in a four-way race is remarkable. FL, an absolute must-win for the fake billionaire, is almost likely D now.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: The Other Castro on August 17, 2016, 09:03:55 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Gass3268 on August 17, 2016, 09:04:11 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

:D


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: heatcharger on August 17, 2016, 09:06:21 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

Great! I'm predicting Trump +6, Bayh +6, Gregg +4 (but with high undecideds).


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Sir Mohamed on August 17, 2016, 09:27:43 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

Great! I'm predicting Trump +6, Bayh +6, Gregg +4 (but with high undecideds).

Agreed. That's my bet, too.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Fargobison on August 17, 2016, 09:46:59 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

They also said the numbers are "interesting" in the tweet they sent out.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Sir Mohamed on August 17, 2016, 09:49:26 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

They also said the numbers are "interesting" in the tweet they sent out.

It would make me laugh if the faker is behind or tied in IN. Really.


Title: Re: FL- Monmouth: Clinton +9
Post by: Brittain33 on August 17, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Heads up, Monmouth is coming out with an INDIANA poll later today! Numbers include President, Senate, and Gov.

They also said the numbers are "interesting" in the tweet they sent out.

It would make me laugh if the faker is behind or tied in IN. Really.

It could just as easily be a weak lead for Bayh...