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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: MT Treasurer on September 07, 2016, 08:19:26 AM



Title: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: MT Treasurer on September 07, 2016, 08:19:26 AM
Pennsylvania

47% Clinton (D)
42% Trump (R)

http://weneednine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/PAToplines1.pdf

New Hampshire

46% Clinton (D)
41% Trump (R)

http://weneednine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/NHToplines1.pdf

Iowa

45% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)

http://weneednine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/IAToplines1.pdf


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: afleitch on September 07, 2016, 08:26:15 AM
No change for PA, Clinton lead down 1 in NH and her first lead in an Iowa poll since mid August.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 07, 2016, 08:32:40 AM
No change for PA, Clinton lead down 1 in NH and her first lead in an Iowa poll since mid August.

I'd say good news, and a good indicator that the CNN poll was definitely an outlier.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Person Man on September 07, 2016, 08:36:59 AM
The race has stabilized kind of where we were at in 2012 with some places being more 2000ish and others more 2008ish. 


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Speed of Sound on September 07, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
Again, doesn't seem like Trump is making any actual gains of his own.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on September 07, 2016, 08:39:45 AM
One week old poll, Aug 30-31.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 07, 2016, 08:48:14 AM
BEAUTIFUL!


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Torie on September 07, 2016, 08:53:33 AM
Below was one of the questions. It makes it seem a bit of a push poll to me having it included, and the way it was phrased.

"There are currently 92 vacancies in lower federal Courts that have not been filled because Senate Republicans have shut down confirmation hearings of any nominees named by President Obama. Do you approve or disapprove of Senate Republicans refusing to allow votes on President Obama’s nominees to lower federal Courts?"


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Sorenroy on September 07, 2016, 08:57:45 AM
Below was one of the questions. It makes it seem a bit of a push poll to me having it included, and the way it was phrased.

"There are currently 92 vacancies in lower federal Courts that have not been filled because Senate Republicans have shut down confirmation hearings of any nominees named by President Obama. Do you approve or disapprove of Senate Republicans refusing to allow votes on President Obama’s nominees to lower federal Courts?"

Actually one of my bigger complaints with PPP. They put out good polls, but when they do stuff like this or ask 20 questions about if Trump is more favorable than cockroaches (and don't even ask the same of Clinton), it hurts their credibility.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Wiz in Wis on September 07, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
Below was one of the questions. It makes it seem a bit of a push poll to me having it included, and the way it was phrased.

"There are currently 92 vacancies in lower federal Courts that have not been filled because Senate Republicans have shut down confirmation hearings of any nominees named by President Obama. Do you approve or disapprove of Senate Republicans refusing to allow votes on President Obama’s nominees to lower federal Courts?"

Actually one of my bigger complaints with PPP. They put out good polls, but when they do stuff like this or ask 20 questions about if Trump is more favorable than cockroaches (and don't even ask the same of Clinton), it hurts their credibility.

As long as the presidential preference question is first, this isn't much of a problem. It looks silly, but it shouldn't affect the results much.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on September 07, 2016, 09:18:42 AM
Below was one of the questions. It makes it seem a bit of a push poll to me having it included, and the way it was phrased.

"There are currently 92 vacancies in lower federal Courts that have not been filled because Senate Republicans have shut down confirmation hearings of any nominees named by President Obama. Do you approve or disapprove of Senate Republicans refusing to allow votes on President Obama’s nominees to lower federal Courts?"

Actually one of my bigger complaints with PPP. They put out good polls, but when they do stuff like this or ask 20 questions about if Trump is more favorable than cockroaches (and don't even ask the same of Clinton), it hurts their credibility.

Since this poll was done for WeNeedNine, which is a lobbying group trying to get the Senate to hold hearings on Garland, the question likely came from them.  It looks like the Presidential and Senatorial preference questions came first, so it shouldn't have affected those answers.

I agree that PPP does ask some stupid questions in their public polls (the ones not for a client).  It makes them look unprofessional, which is a shame because on the whole I think they're a decent pollster.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on September 07, 2016, 09:45:58 AM
This is a D Internal. To the trash!


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on September 07, 2016, 09:48:02 AM
It is a head-to-head. In last polls third parties started to get more from Clinton than Trump. So pretty much in line. But PPP seems right now like little bit pro-Hillary house effect though. Especially not-public ones.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Xing on September 07, 2016, 09:54:13 AM
I'm so glad we have the Junk Poll Police (Wulfric) to remind us that every single poll that could any way he considered an internal is junk. I need to see that in literally every thread, otherwise I'll forget.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on September 07, 2016, 09:59:17 AM
I'm so glad we have the Junk Poll Police (Wulfric) to remind us that every single poll that could any way he considered an internal is junk. I need to see that in literally every thread, otherwise I'll forget.
It is not a public poll, so it has the some problems that internals, right? Those got published only if the firm liked the results (the results does not need to have something to do with Trump vs Clinton though), and not othervise. Am I right? :)


But it is fine by me, as long as we look at average :)


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: ProudModerate2 on September 07, 2016, 10:10:57 AM
Nice !


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on September 07, 2016, 10:11:48 AM


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Sir Mohamed on September 07, 2016, 10:26:15 AM
It just makes me satisfied to see that the clown isn't near anything in PA except losing.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Cruzcrew on September 07, 2016, 11:46:46 AM
It's a bad sign for Clinton if it's this close in these 3 states in a poll done for a left leaning advocacy group.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on September 07, 2016, 12:13:12 PM
Happy with these polls especially that result in Iowa.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Eraserhead on September 07, 2016, 12:28:05 PM
It just makes me satisfied to see that the clown isn't near anything in PA except losing.

Five points is hardly insurmountable for Trump.

I suppose it's good to see him behind in Iowa for once though.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 07, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
It just makes me satisfied to see that the clown isn't near anything in PA except losing.

Five points is hardly insurmountable for Trump.

If he actually had a campaign then many would agree with you.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 07, 2016, 06:05:54 PM
272 blue wall along with CO, NM and NV alive!!!


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: pbrower2a on September 07, 2016, 07:57:33 PM
Too old for my home-stretch polling thread


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 07, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Thank God.


Title: Re: PA/NH/IA PPP polls
Post by: Seriously? on September 07, 2016, 10:11:21 PM
Below was one of the questions. It makes it seem a bit of a push poll to me having it included, and the way it was phrased.

"There are currently 92 vacancies in lower federal Courts that have not been filled because Senate Republicans have shut down confirmation hearings of any nominees named by President Obama. Do you approve or disapprove of Senate Republicans refusing to allow votes on President Obama’s nominees to lower federal Courts?"

Actually one of my bigger complaints with PPP. They put out good polls, but when they do stuff like this or ask 20 questions about if Trump is more favorable than cockroaches (and don't even ask the same of Clinton), it hurts their credibility.
Remember, this is a PPP advocacy group poll, not their own poll, so I am sure the Federal Courts question was intentional.

With that said, that last PPP national poll may have been skewed slightly Democrat because of the tone of questions asked. They really should tone it down to a question or two like that instead of 10 or 15 or whatever they had there.