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Election Archive => 2016 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: MT Treasurer on September 22, 2016, 12:30:10 AM



Title: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: MT Treasurer on September 22, 2016, 12:30:10 AM
Illinois
41% Tammy Duckworth (D)
39% Mark Kirk (R, inc.)

Wisconsin
52% Russ Feingold (D)
42% Ron Johnson (R, inc.)


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Xing on September 22, 2016, 12:33:25 AM
I mean, I could try and make sense out of these numbers, but it's not worth the effort. It's Emerson, throw it in the trash.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Attorney General & Senator Dwarven Dragon on September 22, 2016, 12:34:58 AM
Illinois is really starting to look competitive. Lots of undecideds. Atlas told me that Duckworth was going to win big, but she's still stuck in the low 40s. If we get something with a Kirk lead, or maybe even a tie, I will move it toss-up.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Xing on September 22, 2016, 12:36:30 AM
Illinois is really starting to look competitive. Lots of undecideds. Atlas told me that Duckworth was going to win big, but she's still stuck in the low 40s. If we get something with a Kirk lead, or maybe even a tie, I will move it toss-up.

So you believe that Hillary's only going to win Illinois by 6?


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 22, 2016, 02:21:53 AM
Obama voters should come home for Duckworth. Kirk still hasn't lead in a single poll, having a mediocre candidate😂


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Ebsy on September 22, 2016, 02:48:00 AM
Illinois is really starting to look competitive. Lots of undecideds. Atlas told me that Duckworth was going to win big, but she's still stuck in the low 40s. If we get something with a Kirk lead, or maybe even a tie, I will move it toss-up.

So you believe that Hillary's only going to win Illinois by 6?

It's Wulfric. He'll believe anything other than reality.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Gass3268 on September 22, 2016, 05:47:15 AM
Both ate Likely D, nothing to see here.


Title: WI: Emerson College: Feingold with Lead in Wisconsin
Post by: ElectionAtlas on September 22, 2016, 08:24:28 AM
New Poll: Wisconsin Senator by Emerson College on 2016-09-20 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=55320160920223)

Summary: D: 52%, R: 42%, I: 3%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_4b2b9517da414c0fb1c825dfe5416794.pdf)


Title: IL: Emerson College: Close Election for Senate in Illinois
Post by: ElectionAtlas on September 22, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
New Poll: Illinois Senator by Emerson College on 2016-09-21 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=17320160921223)

Summary: D: 41%, R: 39%, I: 11%, U: 9%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_4b2b9517da414c0fb1c825dfe5416794.pdf)


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: MasterJedi on September 22, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
According to local conservatives Johnson has this "in the bag" and it "doesn't look good for Feingold". lol!


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Figueira on September 22, 2016, 12:10:24 PM
Could someone remind me why we hate Emerson?


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on September 22, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
According to local conservatives Johnson has this "in the bag" and it "doesn't look good for Feingold". lol!

Do you mean local conservatives as in ordinary people or people in the WI conservative media?


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: MasterJedi on September 22, 2016, 12:43:15 PM
According to local conservatives Johnson has this "in the bag" and it "doesn't look good for Feingold". lol!

Do you mean local conservatives as in ordinary people or people in the WI conservative media?

Basically all the local conservative people on social media in the Milwaukee area. Oh, the polls are also biased and lying and Trump/Johnson are way ahead.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Gass3268 on September 22, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
According to local conservatives Johnson has this "in the bag" and it "doesn't look good for Feingold". lol!

Do you mean local conservatives as in ordinary people or people in the WI conservative media?

Basically all the local conservative people on social media in the Milwaukee area. Oh, the polls are also biased and lying and Trump/Johnson are way ahead.

Not Charlie Sykes, lol


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Gass3268 on September 22, 2016, 01:01:47 PM
Could someone remind me why we hate Emerson?

They are 100% landline.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: MasterJedi on September 22, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
According to local conservatives Johnson has this "in the bag" and it "doesn't look good for Feingold". lol!

Do you mean local conservatives as in ordinary people or people in the WI conservative media?

Basically all the local conservative people on social media in the Milwaukee area. Oh, the polls are also biased and lying and Trump/Johnson are way ahead.

Not Charlie Sykes, lol


True, guess I should have further clarified as regular citizens, not media.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Maxwell on September 22, 2016, 01:09:12 PM
wow Kirk only over-performs Trump by 4 in a garbage R-leaning poll! Sad!


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Figueira on September 22, 2016, 01:23:27 PM

Ah, that's it. I knew there was a reason.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: RRusso1982 on September 22, 2016, 02:31:26 PM
Kirk has a history of outperforming the top of the Republican ticket.  He had no problem winning reelection in his old Northern Chicago suburbs district in 2006 and 2008.  I believe he will outperform Trump by a healthy margin, but it won't be enough in the end.  I believe he will come up short, but it won't be a landslide.  I would say he loses mid single digits. 


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Figueira on September 22, 2016, 09:34:07 PM
Kirk has a history of outperforming the top of the Republican ticket.  He had no problem winning reelection in his old Northern Chicago suburbs district in 2006 and 2008.  I believe he will outperform Trump by a healthy margin, but it won't be enough in the end.  I believe he will come up short, but it won't be a landslide.  I would say he loses mid single digits. 

Sounds about right.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 22, 2016, 10:54:55 PM
Those polls are obviously complete junk, but if their relative margins (Duckworth only 4 points behind Hillary and Feingold 3 points ahead of her) are accurate, that's great news.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Young Conservative on September 23, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
Illinois is really starting to look competitive. Lots of undecideds. Atlas told me that Duckworth was going to win big, but she's still stuck in the low 40s. If we get something with a Kirk lead, or maybe even a tie, I will move it toss-up.

So you believe that Hillary's only going to win Illinois by 6?
538 Unskewed this poll to +7 for clinton and +3 duckworth. that's plausible for senate.


Title: Re: IL/WI-Emerson: Duckworth +2, Feingold +10
Post by: Xing on September 23, 2016, 04:35:05 PM
Illinois is really starting to look competitive. Lots of undecideds. Atlas told me that Duckworth was going to win big, but she's still stuck in the low 40s. If we get something with a Kirk lead, or maybe even a tie, I will move it toss-up.

So you believe that Hillary's only going to win Illinois by 6?
538 Unskewed this poll to +7 for clinton and +3 duckworth. that's plausible for senate.

My point is that the Presidential numbers for Illinois don't look plausible, which means that the Senate numbers, even if they seem plausible, have to be thrown out as well. Kirk might be within striking distance of Duckworth, but we probably shouldn't be putting too much stock in this particular pollster.