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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on October 07, 2016, 01:01:02 PM



Title: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Tender Branson on October 07, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
47% Hillary
45% Trump
  2% Johnson
  1% Stein

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Gravis Marketing, a nonpartisan research firm, in conjunction with Breitbart News Network, conducted a random survey of 821 registered voters across Florida on October 4
th. The poll has a margin of error of ±3.4% at the 95% confidence level. The total may not round to 100% because of rounding. The poll was conducted using automated telephone calls and online responses, with the results weighted by voting  patterns.

https://de.scribd.com/document/326773207/Current-Florida-Polling


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 07, 2016, 01:03:33 PM
Breitbart's front page says "Florida TIED!"

LMAO!


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: KingSweden on October 07, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
Whoa! Even Trumpbart has H ahead here. Was not expecting that


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 07, 2016, 01:04:29 PM
Left the cheeky headlines at home today, have we Tender?

Florida can be confidently said to be leaning D now.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Tender Branson on October 07, 2016, 01:04:40 PM
Breitbart's front page says "Florida TIED!"

LMAO!

That's why:

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Caddell said to better measure the mood of the voters, the presidential preference was asked twice. The first time was in the middle of the survey after a series of general political questions mostly about favorability. The second was later in the survey after asking more issue-focused questions before asking demographic questions at the end.

In the first asking, Clinton led Trump with 47 percent to his 45 percent, Caddell said.

“Then, after finishing the survey with a number of attitudinal questions, the respondents were asked again, giving us the 46 percent-to-46 percent tie,” he said.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Ebsy on October 07, 2016, 01:05:32 PM
So literally a push poll and all they got was a tie? Sad!


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Xing on October 07, 2016, 01:06:50 PM
If Breitbart is finding Trump behind in a state that he has to win, the fat lady is almost completely warmed up.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 07, 2016, 01:07:09 PM
Trump is in a very precarious position right now if not even Breitbart finds him ahead in FL.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Gass3268 on October 07, 2016, 01:07:31 PM
Good to know that Florida is 2 points more Democratic than the rest of the country in Breitbartland.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 07, 2016, 01:24:24 PM
Breitbart's front page says "Florida TIED!"
LMAO!


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: HillOfANight on October 07, 2016, 01:28:43 PM
I thought it was bold for Hillary to admit implicit (racial) bias in a presidential debate, and according to this poll, 48% agree, only 42% disagree.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: dspNY on October 07, 2016, 01:42:33 PM
Breitbart's front page says "Florida TIED!"

LMAO!

That's why:

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Caddell said to better measure the mood of the voters, the presidential preference was asked twice. The first time was in the middle of the survey after a series of general political questions mostly about favorability. The second was later in the survey after asking more issue-focused questions before asking demographic questions at the end.

In the first asking, Clinton led Trump with 47 percent to his 45 percent, Caddell said.

“Then, after finishing the survey with a number of attitudinal questions, the respondents were asked again, giving us the 46 percent-to-46 percent tie,” he said.

Florida is Lean Dem now. If they could do no better than a tie after a push poll, Clinton is ahead, and arguably by more than the original topline of 47-45


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on October 07, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
So Pat Cadell is now doing polls for Breitbart? How the mighty have fallen.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Person Man on October 07, 2016, 02:11:10 PM
So literally a push poll and all they got was a tie? Sad!

Not even in something that is functionally an internal (it isn't but still...)


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: mark_twain on October 07, 2016, 02:20:04 PM

Great poll!



Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Obama-Biden Democrat on October 07, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
Hillary up 5! Thank you Florida.


Title: Re: FL-Gravis Marketing/Breitbart: Hillary+2
Post by: Seriously? on October 07, 2016, 11:03:51 PM
So literally a push poll and all they got was a tie? Sad!
That number rarely changes when pollsters ask a second time. Gravis isn't alone in this regard, I've seen other pollsters, including unis do the same thing.

It's probably just decimals that changed it from 47-45 to 46-46. Also notice they asked the question somewhat differently. They allowed for a "Someone else" and a "Not Vote" choice the second time around, when they didn't the first.

Keep in mind that if it was 46.5-45.4 the first go round, something as simple as 46.4-45.5 could technically make it 46-46 when it comes to rounding and 47-45 the first time.

Johnson also improved to 3%.