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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: HillOfANight on October 17, 2016, 07:09:06 AM



Title: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: HillOfANight on October 17, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
http://winwithjmc.com/archives/7488
Trump's down from 10 in September, 15 in July.

Trump 45
Clinton 38
Johnson 4
Stein 1
Undecided 12


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Panda Express on October 17, 2016, 07:10:07 AM
WTF? How is Trump leading in Los Angeles?


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 17, 2016, 07:12:36 AM
WTF? How is Trump leading in Los Angeles?

I hope your being deliberately obtuse.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 17, 2016, 07:12:47 AM
WTF? How is Trump leading in Los Angeles?

No, it's Lower Alabama (i.e. the Florida Panhandle). ;)


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on October 17, 2016, 07:42:46 AM
Maybe Trump should do a rally with David Duke to firm up his support.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 17, 2016, 08:16:57 AM
http://winwithjmc.com/archives/7488
Trump's down from 10 in September, 15 in July.

Trump 45
Clinton 38
Johnson 4
Stein 1
Undecided 12

@Tender: Obama lost Louisiana by 17 in 2012 while winning the election by 4.  I suppose this 10 point swing in margin would suggest a national PV margin of 14 for Clinton, correct? 


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: windjammer on October 17, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
No senate poll?
I'm curious :P


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 17, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Very low energy margin in what should be one of Trump's safest states. Sad!


Title: LA: JMC Enterprises: Trump Leading in Louisiana
Post by: ElectionAtlas on October 17, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
New Poll: Louisiana President by JMC Enterprises on 2016-10-15 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2220161015165)

Summary: D: 38%, R: 45%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Fleming-Executive-Summary-Poll-3-RELEASE.pdf)


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Sir Mohamed on October 17, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
As much as I’d love it, the fake billionaire is not in danger of losing LA, though these numbers are pretty weak for a GOPer. Especially that he’s well under 50%.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 17, 2016, 09:52:22 AM

They did poll it, see the appropriate board.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: pbrower2a on October 17, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
http://winwithjmc.com/archives/7488
Trump's down from 10 in September, 15 in July.

Trump 45
Clinton 38
Johnson 4
Stein 1
Undecided 12

@Tender: Obama lost Louisiana by 17 in 2012 while winning the election by 4.  I suppose this 10 point swing in margin would suggest a national PV margin of 14 for Clinton, correct? 

Another possibility: the regional polarization that so marked elections involving Barack Obama is no longer as severe. Many white people in the Mountain and and Deep South who used to vote Democratic for Carter or Clinton distrusted Barack Obama because he is ... I need not say it. Can they 'come home'? Maybe to some extent.

There will not be a 10-point national swing in the vote from Obama to Clinton even in a landslide. The biggest large swings are likely in states that Barack Obama lost by huge margins. Even swings are for small margins in close elections.

Of course we might also see a Trump collapse this time.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 17, 2016, 10:11:17 AM
http://winwithjmc.com/archives/7488
Trump's down from 10 in September, 15 in July.

Trump 45
Clinton 38
Johnson 4
Stein 1
Undecided 12

@Tender: Obama lost Louisiana by 17 in 2012 while winning the election by 4.  I suppose this 10 point swing in margin would suggest a national PV margin of 14 for Clinton, correct? 

Another possibility: the regional polarization that so marked elections involving Barack Obama is no longer as severe. Many white people in the Mountain and and Deep South who used to vote Democratic for Carter or Clinton distrusted Barack Obama because he is ... I need not say it. Can they 'come home'? Maybe to some extent.

There will not be a 10-point national swing in the vote from Obama to Clinton even in a landslide. The biggest large swings are likely in states that Barack Obama lost by huge margins. Even swings are for small margins in close elections.

Of course we might also see a Trump collapse this time.

I was obviously just taking a shot at our resident sweaty dog, pbrower.  No need for #analysis. 


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Ebsy on October 17, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
I mean, the national polling has shown Clinton substantially improving on Obama's numbers with whites. It is not surprising then that states in the South might narrow considerably.


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Maxwell on October 17, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
delicious


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 17, 2016, 12:41:58 PM
WTF? How is Trump leading in Los Angeles?

ROFL


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Crumpets on October 17, 2016, 01:18:26 PM
Bill Clinton won here twice. Clearly Hillary's in trouble. :P


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: NOVA Green on October 17, 2016, 02:57:50 PM
It looks like the sexual misconduct allegations against Trump are starting to impact even heavily Republican parts of the Deep South.

Time for another poll of Mississippi and South Carolina anyone? ;)


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: OneJ on October 17, 2016, 03:13:54 PM
It looks like the sexual misconduct allegations against Trump are starting to impact even heavily Republican parts of the Deep South.

Time for another poll of Mississippi and South Carolina anyone? ;)

You already know I'm down for this! :)


Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: NOVA Green on October 17, 2016, 04:23:30 PM
It looks like the sexual misconduct allegations against Trump are starting to impact even heavily Republican parts of the Deep South.

Time for another poll of Mississippi and South Carolina anyone? ;)

You already know I'm down for this! :)

We're all down with that brother!!!!

Obviously LA isn't gonna flip this year, despite the increased number of Katrina refugees moving back home from places like Houston, Texas, and maybe some Cajun Catholics reverting to their traditional Democratic voting patterns, and some older White Evangelical ladies that can't stomach the Trump.

However if LA is really this close, what the heck is going on down in MS and SC, where it doesn't take a huge swing of White voters to move those states to proper tossup-status?

Shoot.... I never would have thought my former state of Texas would be anywhere close for another decade or more, but the Trump Train is going off the tracks to the point where we are even discussing these possibilities!

This poll might well be crap, but now we are finally starting to see both national polls, as well as those in solidly Republican states swing heavily after the sexual battery/assault charges by nine different ladies.... In the "Babble Belt" that dog don't hunt and needs to be put down. :)



Title: Re: LA-JMC: Trump +7
Post by: Obama-Biden Democrat on October 17, 2016, 08:00:47 PM
Bill Clinton won here twice. Clearly Hillary's in trouble. :P

In 1996, LA voted for Bill by 12-13 points while he won nationally by 8-9. Clinton didn't just barely squeak out a win like he did in TN or KY, but that was a solid landslide in LA. Maybe its time to send Bill back into Cajun country.