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Title: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: BoAtlantis on October 17, 2016, 11:05:11 AM https://twitter.com/DavidChalian/status/788047148810199040
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/17/politics/battleground-polls-2016-elections/ NV Clinton 46 Trump 44 Johnson 7 NC Clinton 48 Trump 47 Johnson 4 OH Trump 48 Clinton 44 Johnson 4 Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 17, 2016, 11:06:52 AM I'll take it. Remember when Trump was leading by 7 in NV lol.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 17, 2016, 11:07:22 AM I'll take it. Remember when Trump was leading by 7 in NV lol. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 17, 2016, 11:07:43 AM lmao CNN is shilling so hard for a horse race
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Gustaf on October 17, 2016, 11:07:53 AM Trump +4 in Ohio, lol.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Dr. Arch on October 17, 2016, 11:08:21 AM Margins relative to previous polls, if any?
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: psychprofessor on October 17, 2016, 11:09:08 AM CNN has had a Trump lean all cycle...I wonder if the cross tabs will be wonky, like N/A for under 45, under-represent Blacks and Hispanics for Hillary, etc...throw it in the aggregate
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on October 17, 2016, 11:09:17 AM All numbers seem legit. I'm sure Hillary will carry NV barring collapse. NC is going to come down the wire, have to hope Johnson voters don't switch to Trump, which seems unlikely at this point. Trump will win OH.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Gustaf on October 17, 2016, 11:10:36 AM Margins relative to previous polls, if any? Ohio was Trump +5 for CNN in mid-September. North Carolina was tied according to them in mid-late August. So improvement for Clinton by 1% in both of those cases. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: HillOfANight on October 17, 2016, 11:11:13 AM https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/788049242833162241
Among registered voters NC Clinton +5 NV Clinton +7 Nate Cohn thinks these are too Trump friendly. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 17, 2016, 11:11:34 AM Cortez-Mastro leads by seven in NV!!! RIP, Safe D
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Illiniwek on October 17, 2016, 11:12:06 AM I hate ohio, but I really don't want to think that the state is so deplorable that it will swing for trump.
Cortez-Mastro leads by seven in NV!!! RIP, Safe D No way, wow! Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on October 17, 2016, 11:12:40 AM https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/788049242833162241 Among registered voters NC Clinton +5 NV Clinton +7 Nate Cohn thinks these are too Trump friendly. Hillary has typically done better with LV, which is unusual for a Democrat but has been consistent this cycle. That's very strange that there would be that large a difference in Trump's favor. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Dr. Arch on October 17, 2016, 11:12:59 AM https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/788049242833162241 Among registered voters NC Clinton +5 NV Clinton +7 Nate Cohn thinks these are too Trump friendly. Even with a Trump bias, she's still ahead in NC and NV, excellent news. Also, those senate numbers! Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Rand on October 17, 2016, 11:13:11 AM () Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:13:34 AM Clinton gained 1 point in Ohio
Clinton gained 1 point in North Carolina First time this cycle polling Nevada Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:15:16 AM Even Nate Silver said there's a R house effect here:
Quote Nate Silver @NateSilver538 16s 17 seconds ago People really need to check on house effects when comparing polls. For instance, CNN polls have had a 2-3 point Trump lean so far this year. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Devout Centrist on October 17, 2016, 11:16:38 AM OH has a weird gender gap: Trump leads men by 13 points, but trails Clinton only 3 (!) with women.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: BoAtlantis on October 17, 2016, 11:16:42 AM Sad to say but I think any chances for OH and IA are gone for Hillary . To give you a perspective, CNN had +3 for Obama in OH in 2012. (Which was right on the dot)
If there is any poll that is an indicator for OH, it's CNN. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: heatcharger on October 17, 2016, 11:16:52 AM CNN polls are junk.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: BundouYMB on October 17, 2016, 11:17:11 AM CNN polls are junk. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Devout Centrist on October 17, 2016, 11:18:00 AM Guys, I'm seeing all NA's for the age demographics under 50 on the OH poll...
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on October 17, 2016, 11:18:07 AM OH has a weird gender gap: Trump leads men by 13 points, but trails Clinton only 3 (!) with women. Yeah, that's an absurd split. Throw the poll in the averages, but only to offset that Clinton +9 poll from the other day. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Brittain33 on October 17, 2016, 11:18:13 AM Nate Silver whacked 5 points off Trump's margin in the last CNN poll in Ohio.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:18:54 AM Quote College educated whites in Nevada and North Carolina break sharply in Clinton's favor, 49% Clinton to 41% Trump in Nevada and 59% Clinton to 37% Trump in North Carolina. They tilt more narrowly toward Clinton in Ohio, 48% Clinton to 44% Trump. In all three states, college-educated whites backed Mitt Romney over Barack Obama in 2012, by wide margins. There is no way that Clinton wins college educated whites in NC by 12% and loses the state. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 17, 2016, 11:21:18 AM Recent polls showed Hillary up in OH. I don't know what the deal is here.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on October 17, 2016, 11:21:42 AM Nate Silver whacked 5 points off Trump's margin in the last CNN poll in Ohio. Eh, not quite. They continue to make adjustments to reflect how the national polling has shifted since the poll was released. It was probably about a two point adjustment initially. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Fusionmunster on October 17, 2016, 11:22:16 AM I dont know what the hell CNN is doing with that likely voter screen.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: mark_twain on October 17, 2016, 11:22:32 AM The actual result for OH is 48% Trump, 44% Clinton, so Trump actually scores +4 for this poll.
Regardless, I still expect Clinton to be ahead in this state for other polls. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Devout Centrist on October 17, 2016, 11:23:32 AM I dont know what the hell CNN is doing with that likely voter screen. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Dr. Arch on October 17, 2016, 11:26:54 AM I dont know what the hell CNN is doing with that likely voter screen. The heck is going on with CNN. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:29:03 AM Other than Ohio, these polls aren't that bad.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:36:28 AM CNN polls are no longer rigged:
Quote Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Wow, new polls just came out from @CNN Great numbers, especially after total media hit job. Leading Ohio 48 - 44. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Speed of Sound on October 17, 2016, 11:37:52 AM CNN polls are no longer rigged: Quote Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Wow, new polls just came out from @CNN Great numbers, especially after total media hit job. Leading Ohio 48 - 44. I can't think of a more pathetic human, save those that fall for this crack-induced charade. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Dr. Arch on October 17, 2016, 11:38:00 AM CNN polls are no longer rigged: Quote Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Wow, new polls just came out from @CNN Great numbers, especially after total media hit job. Leading Ohio 48 - 44. I hate this 70 year old's childlike behavior for reassurance. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Fargobison on October 17, 2016, 11:40:05 AM I'm constantly surprised at the close NV polls. Amazed that HRC just can't seem to shake him there.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 17, 2016, 11:40:37 AM Can't even provide a breakdown for under-50s in the CNN poll. LOL! Wolf Blitzer must've been making the whole studio reek of dog sweat the last few weeks.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: EliteLX on October 17, 2016, 11:42:05 AM This seems far too close.. this starts to the put the electoral college back into the margin of error and I'm rather certain Trump isn't there as of right now. CNN has had some Trump friendly polls, so it doesn't surprise me but I'm going to ride with Nate Cohn and take this as a grain of salt with a possible house effect.
If he is still fighting for North Carolina 3 weeks before everybody is getting to their ballots, it's over. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: mark_twain on October 17, 2016, 11:42:37 AM CNN polls are no longer rigged: Quote Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Wow, new polls just came out from @CNN Great numbers, especially after total media hit job. Leading Ohio 48 - 44. I hate this 70 year old's childlike behavior for reassurance. No need to worry, reality will hit home the day after Election Day, for most people. If not, then Inauguration Day will definitely settle the score. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Tender Branson on October 17, 2016, 11:50:33 AM Someone needs to enter these and the CBS/YouGov polls from yesterday to the database ...
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 11:52:19 AM This seems far too close.. this starts to the put the electoral college back into the margin of error and I'm rather certain Trump isn't there as of right now. CNN has had some Trump friendly polls, so it doesn't surprise me but I'm going to ride with Nate Cohn and take this as a grain of salt with a possible house effect. If he is still fighting for North Carolina 3 weeks before everybody is getting to their ballots, it's over. In person early voting starts on Thursday too. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: F_S_USATN on October 17, 2016, 11:56:12 AM Pence in Mason, OH: "We’re getting some awfully encouraging news out there, even CNN said we’re leading in OH by 4!" Man replies, CNN sucks!
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: TC 25 on October 17, 2016, 12:03:51 PM It's amusing to see the Dems arguing that the polls are skewed.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Ebsy on October 17, 2016, 12:22:46 PM CNN/ORC is not a very good pollster at the state level.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: StatesPoll on October 17, 2016, 12:26:02 PM NV Clinton 46 Trump 44 Johnson 7 NC Clinton 48 Trump 47 Johnson 4 OH Trump 48 Clinton 44 Johnson 4 [/quote] Red Avatars are complaing of Clinton News Network Poll? hahahahahahahahahaha! () Considering The Polls were conducted Clinton News Network Actually Now It could be NV TRUMP +2% OH TRUMP +8% NC TRUMP +3% () Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 17, 2016, 12:27:17 PM NV Clinton 46 Trump 44 Johnson 7 NC Clinton 48 Trump 47 Johnson 4 OH Trump 48 Clinton 44 Johnson 4 Red Avatars are complaing of Clinton News Network Poll? hahahahahahahahahaha! () Considering The Polls were conducted Clinton News Network Actually Now It could be NV TRUMP +2% OH TRUMP +8% NC TRUMP +2% () [/quote] Look out everyone, statespoll is back lol. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: TC 25 on October 17, 2016, 12:36:14 PM This poll suggests a Trump victory is still possible:
Romney states (including a hold of NC) = 206 Plus IA - 6 OH - 18 FL - 29 Maine CD - 1 NH - 4 NV 6 there's 270 No margin for error at all in that scenario but polling suggests all yet within realm of possibility. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Gass3268 on October 17, 2016, 12:41:23 PM This poll suggests a Trump victory is still possible: Romney states (including a hold of NC) = 206 Plus IA - 6 OH - 18 FL - 29 Maine CD - 1 NH - 4 NV 6 there's 270 No margin for error at all in that scenario but polling suggests all yet within realm of possibility. Not gonna happen with Clinton up by 8 on average nationally. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 17, 2016, 12:53:48 PM This poll suggests a Trump victory is still possible: Romney states (including a hold of NC) = 206 Plus IA - 6 OH - 18 FL - 29 Maine CD - 1 NH - 4 NV 6 there's 270 No margin for error at all in that scenario but polling suggests all yet within realm of possibility. Possible, but very very unlikely based on all the polling data at this point. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 17, 2016, 01:46:05 PM CNN polls are no longer rigged: Quote Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Wow, new polls just came out from @CNN Great numbers, especially after total media hit job. Leading Ohio 48 - 44. I hate this 70 year old's childlike behavior for reassurance. LOL. trump will be dissing CNN once again, by this weekend. What a clown ! Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: BoAtlantis on October 17, 2016, 01:58:19 PM Ohio will probably lose its bellwether status this year if Hillary wins.
It may have to give the crown to Florida or even NV in the future. Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Eraserhead on October 17, 2016, 02:29:28 PM Stein is at 2% in Ohio. She's not on the ballot in the other two states.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Antonio the Sixth on October 17, 2016, 05:20:05 PM Really weird. So CCM is running 5 points ahead of Hillary, and Ross only 2 behind her? If so, that's great news for both. Hopefully this poll does indeed have a GOP bias.
Title: Re: NV-CNN: Clinton +2 NC-CNN: Clinton +1 OH-CNN: Trump +4 Post by: Ebsy on October 17, 2016, 05:35:38 PM We basically have confirmation from these polls that CNN is changing their topline Likely Voter numbers to fit whatever narrative they are pushing.
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