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Title: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 10:24:25 AM
Final presidential debate is tonight at 9pm ET.  Venue is the University of Nevada in Las Vegas.  Chris Wallace is moderating.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-third-presidential-debate-229804

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The debate is split into six 15-minute segments covering topics picked by Wallace. Both Clinton and Trump will have two minutes to respond to a question and then another chance to respond to their opponent. Wallace will use the leftover times to expand on the discussion topic.

The six discussion topics will be immigration, entitlements and debt, the Supreme Court, the economy, foreign policy, and each candidate's fitness to serve as president.

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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: / on October 19, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
Oh dear


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 19, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Trump almost looks handsome there.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The Other Castro on October 19, 2016, 10:34:06 AM

He looks like what Alan Rickman would look like if he were playing Trump in a movie.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 10:37:15 AM
An interesting suggestion for a Trump Hail Mary tonight, at the debate, from the NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/)

Here is a key passage:

"...Here’s why humility must be central to his game plan.

First, it would be a surprise. Ready to rumble at the drop of an insult, Trump could benefit from a change of tone. ......some who remain undecided or say they will vote for a minor-party candidate, have been waiting for Trump to win them over by acting more consistently presidential, but are losing confidence that he can be anything other than a brawler and insult machine. Trump’s challenge is to earn a second look from them......He must show them that he understands their doubts and is ready for the awesome responsibility that comes with the Oval Office. He needs to win their confidence before he can win their votes....Call it a test of character or temperament or fitness. I call it heart, and Trump must finally reveal his...."


We'll see if he does (try) to take this advice.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 10:47:43 AM
An interesting suggestion for a Trump Hail Mary tonight, at the debate, from the NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/)

Here is a key passage:

"...Here’s why humility must be central to his game plan.

First, it would be a surprise. Ready to rumble at the drop of an insult, Trump could benefit from a change of tone. ......some who remain undecided or say they will vote for a minor-party candidate, have been waiting for Trump to win them over by acting more consistently presidential, but are losing confidence that he can be anything other than a brawler and insult machine. Trump’s challenge is to earn a second look from them......He must show them that he understands their doubts and is ready for the awesome responsibility that comes with the Oval Office. He needs to win their confidence before he can win their votes....Call it a test of character or temperament or fitness. I call it heart, and Trump must finally reveal his...."


We'll see if he does (try) to take this advice.

This debate will not have the viewership to successfully perform a Hail Mary.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Illiniwek on October 19, 2016, 10:53:15 AM
I wish they would have the balls to cut off mics if they go 5 seconds over their allotted answer time. Have the buzzer clearly go off, they have a couple of seconds to finish their sentence, and then cut them and move on. Cmon Chris if you don't want to be a pushover then enforce the speaking times.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 11:00:01 AM


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 11:09:44 AM
An interesting suggestion for a Trump Hail Mary tonight, at the debate, from the NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/)

Here is a key passage:

"...Here’s why humility must be central to his game plan.

First, it would be a surprise. Ready to rumble at the drop of an insult, Trump could benefit from a change of tone. ......some who remain undecided or say they will vote for a minor-party candidate, have been waiting for Trump to win them over by acting more consistently presidential, but are losing confidence that he can be anything other than a brawler and insult machine. Trump’s challenge is to earn a second look from them......He must show them that he understands their doubts and is ready for the awesome responsibility that comes with the Oval Office. He needs to win their confidence before he can win their votes....Call it a test of character or temperament or fitness. I call it heart, and Trump must finally reveal his...."


We'll see if he does (try) to take this advice.

This being exactly what everyone sane thought he'd do for the other two debates...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 11:13:59 AM
Given his guest list, he's not coming sane. He's coming in twice as unhinged and extremely desperate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on October 19, 2016, 11:18:41 AM
An interesting suggestion for a Trump Hail Mary tonight, at the debate, from the NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/)

Here is a key passage:

"...Here’s why humility must be central to his game plan.

First, it would be a surprise. Ready to rumble at the drop of an insult, Trump could benefit from a change of tone. ......some who remain undecided or say they will vote for a minor-party candidate, have been waiting for Trump to win them over by acting more consistently presidential, but are losing confidence that he can be anything other than a brawler and insult machine. Trump’s challenge is to earn a second look from them......He must show them that he understands their doubts and is ready for the awesome responsibility that comes with the Oval Office. He needs to win their confidence before he can win their votes....Call it a test of character or temperament or fitness. I call it heart, and Trump must finally reveal his...."


We'll see if he does (try) to take this advice.

He can't/won't.

First, because of how it would play with his cult. They'd think he'd gone soft, given up, caved it and he'd pay at the polls. The loss in frothing cultists would remove any advantage he'd get from winning over undecideds.


And second, because he has neither the wit nor self-control to execute such a strategy. Oh, maybe he'll be stoked to the gills on mood stabilizers, and even agree to it before hand. But he gets out there on stage and if he's still conscious he's going to go for attacks and brags. Because that's what he's done his whole life. That's all he knows, and all there is to him.

He's certainly not going to say his bits and then shut up, no matter how much it would benefit him. His ego is to huge for that. He's going to stand at the bottom of the pit he's dug and keep scraping up handfuls of crap and trying to throw them at his opponent. He's too insane and too stupid to realize that he's only digging the hole a little deeper and covering himself in filth.



Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The Other Castro on October 19, 2016, 11:27:03 AM
I like this promo image better:

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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 11:33:47 AM
An interesting suggestion for a Trump Hail Mary tonight, at the debate, from the NY Post:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/ (http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/this-hail-mary-move-could-save-donald-trumps-campaign/)

Here is a key passage:

"...Here’s why humility must be central to his game plan.

First, it would be a surprise. Ready to rumble at the drop of an insult, Trump could benefit from a change of tone. ......some who remain undecided or say they will vote for a minor-party candidate, have been waiting for Trump to win them over by acting more consistently presidential, but are losing confidence that he can be anything other than a brawler and insult machine. Trump’s challenge is to earn a second look from them......He must show them that he understands their doubts and is ready for the awesome responsibility that comes with the Oval Office. He needs to win their confidence before he can win their votes....Call it a test of character or temperament or fitness. I call it heart, and Trump must finally reveal his...."


We'll see if he does (try) to take this advice.

He had to be on drugs to do that. :D


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: KingSweden on October 19, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
Am I the only one who actually thinks Wallace will be a pretty decent moderator?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: F_S_USATN on October 19, 2016, 12:22:19 PM
“Ailes’s camp said Ailes learned that Trump couldn’t focus—surprise, surprise—and that advising him was a waste of time,” Sherman said. “These debate prep sessions weren’t going anywhere.”

On the Trump side, Ellison said the story is different: “Even for the second debate, Ailes kept going off on tangents and talking about his war stories while he was supposed to be prepping Trump.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/roger-ailes-donald-trump-no-longer-speak?mbid=social_twitter

Big question is what was the girl's name?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Baki on October 19, 2016, 12:51:53 PM
Am I the only one who actually thinks Wallace will be a pretty decent moderator?

No.
I have a gut feeling he will do just fine.
Lets hope I'm not wrong.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: KingSweden on October 19, 2016, 01:15:41 PM
Am I the only one who actually thinks Wallace will be a pretty decent moderator?

I'm not sure.  I kind of picture him as a Matt Lauer type who will easily get pushed around by Trump and won't be brave enough to call him out on his lies.

To his credit, Wallace is one the only, if not the only, morning show host to refuse to allow Trump to do call ins.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lolasknives on October 19, 2016, 01:53:15 PM
I want her to make him cry on national TV tonight. No better way to wrap up this hellish campaign than showing what a laughable shadow of a man Drumpf really is. She should also tell him to his disgusting pumpkin face she will take all his assets after the election and leave him penniless. I want him to know he's going to lose everything he ever loved and worked for, and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

Maybe it's illegal, yeah. Ask me if I care. We can make an exception just for Drumpf and his rotten family. Just this once.

I really, really, REALLY hate this walking pile of fascist crap. Seeing him lose bigly and slink away isn't nearly enough. Obama and Hillary need to make him PAY for his year of terrorizing decent people.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Devout Centrist on October 19, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
I want her to make him cry on national TV tonight. No better way to wrap up this hellish campaign than showing what a laughable shadow of a man Drumpf really is. She should also tell him to his disgusting pumpkin face she will take all his assets after the election and leave him penniless. I want him to know he's going to lose everything he ever loved and worked for, and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

Maybe it's illegal, yeah. Ask me if I care. We can make an exception just for Drumpf and his rotten family. Just this once.

I really, really, REALLY hate this walking pile of fascist crap. Seeing him lose bigly and slink away isn't nearly enough. Obama and Hillary need to make him PAY for his year of terrorizing decent people.

Let go of your hate. Don't let the dark side consume you...
"New Labour, New Danger"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Devout Centrist on October 19, 2016, 02:23:22 PM
I want her to make him cry on national TV tonight. No better way to wrap up this hellish campaign than showing what a laughable shadow of a man Drumpf really is. She should also tell him to his disgusting pumpkin face she will take all his assets after the election and leave him penniless. I want him to know he's going to lose everything he ever loved and worked for, and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

Maybe it's illegal, yeah. Ask me if I care. We can make an exception just for Drumpf and his rotten family. Just this once.

I really, really, REALLY hate this walking pile of fascist crap. Seeing him lose bigly and slink away isn't nearly enough. Obama and Hillary need to make him PAY for his year of terrorizing decent people.

Let go of your hate. Don't let the dark side consume you...
"New Labour, New Danger"

It's a joke.
Am I not participating in the extension of humour and self gratification too?

Yeah, I just found the juxtaposition funny.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Coolface Sock #42069 on October 19, 2016, 02:39:52 PM
I want her to make him cry on national TV tonight. No better way to wrap up this hellish campaign than showing what a laughable shadow of a man Drumpf really is. She should also tell him to his disgusting pumpkin face she will take all his assets after the election and leave him penniless. I want him to know he's going to lose everything he ever loved and worked for, and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

Maybe it's illegal, yeah. Ask me if I care. We can make an exception just for Drumpf and his rotten family. Just this once.

I really, really, REALLY hate this walking pile of fascist crap. Seeing him lose bigly and slink away isn't nearly enough. Obama and Hillary need to make him PAY for his year of terrorizing decent people.
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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 02:52:58 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 03:21:30 PM
Trump wearing the Confederate battle flag? Hmmm....


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on October 19, 2016, 03:56:27 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?

You still want supporters to actually go and vote.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on October 19, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?

You still want supporters to actually go and vote.

Why would the better performance in the debates not do it? Bernie bros would vote for third parties or something like this?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?

a last glimmer of hope before smashing him late October, early November with a nice oppo dump.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Devout Centrist on October 19, 2016, 04:28:48 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?

a last glimmer of hope before smashing him late October, early November with a nice oppo dump.
Why not just kick him while he's down and obliterate him after the debate is a total disaster for him?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Southern Delegate matthew27 on October 19, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on October 19, 2016, 04:47:50 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

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No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 04:51:26 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

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No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 19, 2016, 04:56:15 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

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No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...

Almost missed him in the wave of voter1993's and STANTON's while he was gone. Convenient reappearance, now that I think about it.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bismarck on October 19, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

()

No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...

But I thought Clinton voters were all the smart logical people?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 05:09:36 PM
I don't think Clinton wants Trump completely out of the woods yet -  and I suspect this debate leads to Trump's first ever draw, giving Trump hope before another oppo dump occurs.
Why not?

You still want supporters to actually go and vote.

Why would the better performance in the debates not do it? Bernie bros would vote for third parties or something like this?

There's a possibility that the totals for Johnson/Stein could vary by 1-2% based on whether people think the election is close or not. Essentially, the less "risk" there is to voting third party, the more likely people are to do it. You might not think Clinton cares whether Johnson gets 4% or 6% or 8% as long as she still wins, but believe me, she does. 5% of the vote gets the LP federal funding in 2020, which makes a big difference and presents a serious threat to the two party duopoly if it is used properly. Yes, it can just result in endless infighting and implode the party, but Sarwark (LNC chair) seems fairly intelligent and is definitely popular enough to pull some strings in the right direction (He was re-elected with 65% of the vote at the Convention this year).


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Interlocutor is just not there yet on October 19, 2016, 05:15:42 PM
Sarah Palin & Leslie Millwee (New Bill accuser) will be there as invited guests of Trump

I believe I read that James O'Keefe is a Trump guest too


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 05:17:12 PM
Sarah Palin & Leslie Millwee (New Bill accuser) will be there as invited guests of Trump

What a f-ng joke.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on October 19, 2016, 05:21:41 PM
There's a possibility that the totals for Johnson/Stein could vary by 1-2% based on whether people think the election is close or not. Essentially, the less "risk" there is to voting third party, the more likely people are to do it. You might not think Clinton cares whether Johnson gets 4% or 6% or 8% as long as she still wins, but believe me, she does. 5% of the vote gets the LP federal funding in 2020, which makes a big difference and presents a serious threat to the two party duopoly if it is used properly. Yes, it can just result in endless infighting and implode the party, but Sarwark (LNC chair) seems fairly intelligent and is definitely popular enough to pull some strings in the right direction (He was re-elected with 65% of the vote at the Convention this year).
Yes, but good performance can help to get those voters stay/back.

I just don't buy that Hillary would on purpose doing worse (XX% of her best performance).


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on October 19, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
Sarah Palin & Leslie Millwee (New Bill accuser) will be there as invited guests of Trump

I believe I read that James O'Keefe is a Trump guest too
Haha, wtf. Together with Obama's half brother it could be something :D


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The Other Castro on October 19, 2016, 05:42:10 PM
Clinton invited Mark Cuban and Kareem Abdul-Jabar.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Some guy on CNN said that Trump praised Hillary and Bill in 2008 because he's a business man and that he supported and then unsupported the war in Iraq because..... he's a business man.

This excuse is a new low, honestly.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 06:01:07 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

()

No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...

But I thought Clinton voters were all the smart logical people?
I mean.. her experience margin is greater than Trump's issues margin... and I'm sure that some people consider The Wall an "issue"...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on October 19, 2016, 06:06:55 PM
Sarah Palin & Leslie Millwee (New Bill accuser) will be there as invited guests of Trump

I believe I read that James O'Keefe is a Trump guest too


Sniffy T. Pussygrabber continues to prove Jerry Springer right: Clinton belongs in Washington and Trump belongs on reality tv.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
That feeling when watching CNN's pre-debate analysis and the crowds are chanting "HEY HEY HO HO, DONALD TRUMP HAS GOT TO GO" AND "LOCK HER UP"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on October 19, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
CNN crowds are kind of annoying tonight


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 06:34:44 PM

I'm on MSNBC - they're all irritating. Either they're chanting whilst someone is speaking or I see bloody God-botherers in the background. No1curr.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Incipimus iterum on October 19, 2016, 06:34:58 PM
Rudy Giuliani's gonna debate Mark Cuban on CNN.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Interlocutor is just not there yet on October 19, 2016, 06:38:31 PM
An hour ago, one of the Trump supporters shouted over a megaphone that drowned out the panel. CNN has been extra intolerable today.

And now we have the undercard debate with "C is for Confidential!" Giuliani vs Mark Cuban


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Virginiá on October 19, 2016, 06:45:37 PM
I wonder if Trump would have still pulled these shameless stunts with the "guests" had Hillary not invited Cuban the first time. I don't even understand why Mark Cuban gets under Trump's skin so much.

Either way, the CPD really needs to ban this type of behavior next time around. This is supposed to be a fking presidential debate, not some reality TV show. Leave it to the GOP to nominate someone who sucks every last bit of dignity and honor out of this election while they stand idly by, twiddling their thumbs and salivating over SCOTUS justices.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 06:48:01 PM
I wonder if Trump would have still pulled these shameless stunts with the "guests" had Hillary not invited Cuban the first time. I don't even understand why Mark Cuban gets under Trump's skin so much.

Either way, the CPD really needs to ban this type of behavior next time around. This is supposed to be a fking presidential debate, not some reality TV show. Leave it to the GOP to nominate someone who sucks every last bit of dignity and honor out of this election while they stand idly by, twiddling their thumbs and salivating over SCOTUS justices.

They should just just do the debate in an empty studio.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BoAtlantis on October 19, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
Giuliani can't answer questions directly. Mark Cuban can.

Boy, this awfully looks familiar.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 06:53:01 PM
HUGE Giuliani fail!!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Interlocutor is just not there yet on October 19, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Giuliani can't answer questions directly. Mark Cuban can.

Boy, this awfully looks familiar.

It was great watching Giuliani get out of the Lewinsky hole that he himself dug up:

- "What Bill Clinton did to her should have gotten him out of office! And now we got women coming out saying he had illegitimate children!"
- "Where the hell did you get that from?"
- "Enough about the past, let's talk about what Trump is gonna do for the future!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BoAtlantis on October 19, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Giuliani can't answer questions directly. Mark Cuban can.

Boy, this awfully looks familiar.

It was great watching Giuliani get out of the Lewinsky hole that he himself dug up:

- "What Bill Clinton did to her should have gotten him out of office! And now we got women coming out saying he had illegitimate children!"
- "Where the hell did you get that from?"
- "Enough about the past, let's talk about what Trump is gonna do for the future!"

Giuliani is becoming senile. The guy should stay away from NYC forever. We don't need him.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mallow on October 19, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

()

No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...

But I thought Clinton voters were all the smart logical people?

It looks like (based on the sum of the percentages) the respondents were only allowed to choose one option. Experience is a perfectly legitimate primary reason to vote for Clinton assuming a secondary reason is that her issues/policies align with your own. That's probably how I'd describe my own support for her, frankly.

The notion that "No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies..." is flatly false. That's just not often the primary reason given, since experience is such an important qualification for her.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: izixs on October 19, 2016, 07:19:41 PM
The only way he wins tonight is if he comes of presidential with the right temperment and talks issues. Leave the attacks at home.
True. He should talk about the immigration, law and order.

()

No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies...
But sadly his only chance is Hillary's health or a miracle.

Wow, so much cluelessness...

But I thought Clinton voters were all the smart logical people?

It looks like (based on the sum of the percentages) the respondents were only allowed to choose one option. Experience is a perfectly legitimate primary reason to vote for Clinton assuming a secondary reason is that her issues/policies align with your own. That's probably how I'd describe my own support for her, frankly.

The notion that "No one votes for Hillary [most likely] because of her policies..." is flatly false. That's just not often the primary reason given, since experience is such an important qualification for her.

Exactly. When you support Clinton because Issues and Experience, but the other guy is an unstable lunatic, that one ends up at the forefront of your mind more often when people ask you why you support Clinton.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 07:27:09 PM
These crowds need to STFU.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 07:28:05 PM

I'm not watching yet. What are the crowds doing?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 07:29:26 PM

Over-excited, too much chanting/shouting etc.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 07:29:56 PM

Can't wait for this last debate to be over.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on October 19, 2016, 07:31:37 PM
what is that background sound thing on CNN? It sounds like an arcade game lol


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: TStechnij on October 19, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
These Trump surrogates must be so exhausted.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 07:49:49 PM
Election odds from https://electionbettingodds.com/ going into the debate are:

Clinton 81.0%
Trump 17.4%
McMullin 0.2%
Johnson 0.1%
Stein 0.1%

These don't add to 100% because they account for the small possibility that some other person could be elected.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
To the Trump supporters, you can visit Donald Trump's Facebook page for live, unbiased streaming of the debate with commentary exclusively by Donald Trump surrogates. Don't let the media pull the wool over your eyes!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 07:56:09 PM
So, it begins .......


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Saint Milei on October 19, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
We outchea.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Ronnie on October 19, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Wait, this isn't going to be a sit-down debate?  Why not?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mehmentum on October 19, 2016, 08:00:13 PM
Wait, this isn't going to be a sit-down debate?  Why not?
A test of Illery's stamina, I presume.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Devout Centrist on October 19, 2016, 08:01:38 PM
Wait, this isn't going to be a sit-down debate?  Why not?
A test of Illery's stamina, I presume.
I'm more worried about Wallace's stamina. He said at 3 o'clock sharp, the debate will begin.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Interlocutor is just not there yet on October 19, 2016, 08:04:05 PM
I'm hoping for a Trump outburst on how Chris Wallace is even more unfair than Megyn Kelly


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on October 19, 2016, 08:04:08 PM
This debate is going great so far.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:05:23 PM
They didn't shake hands!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
Is Wallace drunk?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mehmentum on October 19, 2016, 08:07:34 PM
I don't blame him.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on October 19, 2016, 08:07:38 PM
Damn, Hillary, right off the bat with the identity politics!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:07:50 PM


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:09:02 PM
I can barely hear Donald.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 08:09:08 PM
Trump making the SCOTUS question about himself (re: Ginsburg).  :P


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
No sniffing yet.  Trump is winning guys


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 19, 2016, 08:09:20 PM
Is anyone else seeing small transparent text appearing on the screen that has a phone number/web address on it?!?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:09:36 PM
Nine minutes in and Trump bombs SC question.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BundouYMB on October 19, 2016, 08:09:55 PM
Donald Trump sounds very, very sick. His voice is extremely scratchy and you can barely hear it. The terminal illness he's hiding from the public must be progressing rapidly.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: JA on October 19, 2016, 08:10:09 PM
Damn, Hillary, right off the bat with the identity politics!

Defending the rights of historically marginalized groups and the underpivileged is such a crime. How horrible she is for mentioning that!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:10:17 PM
Trump basically endorses an abortion litmus test


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:10:28 PM
Really, RBG was mean to me?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy on October 19, 2016, 08:10:41 PM
Can someone give Trump a cup of espresso?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:11:03 PM
Trump bombing already.

Must be terminally ill, 6 months to live??? Guess he's like that if he doesn't coke up beforehand.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 08:11:30 PM
HILLARY WHY SAY 33000 WHY


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 19, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Why does Trump seem so low energy tonight?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
Why does Trump seem so low energy tonight?

Didn't coke up beforehand, hence no sniffles.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:12:40 PM
Low-energy Trump not coming out firing at Crooked Hillary. Sad!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:12:54 PM
Why does Trump seem so low energy tonight?

Didn't coke up beforehand, hence no sniffles.


...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
Hillary's coming off as pretty high-energy tonight.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 08:13:42 PM
Oh god that toddler clip though


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
Trump sounds subdued tonight. Did Conway not give him his toys and candy beforehand?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BundouYMB on October 19, 2016, 08:14:23 PM
Trump also looks very hollow-eyed.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 08:14:46 PM
Why does Trump seem so low energy tonight?

Didn't coke up beforehand, hence no sniffles.

This.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 19, 2016, 08:15:09 PM
No sniffing yet.  Trump is winning guys

There it was. The first sniff.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Suburbia on October 19, 2016, 08:15:27 PM
NRA talk, abortion, etc. Hmm.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
Damn, this is a serious debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on October 19, 2016, 08:16:41 PM
Trump saying "If I appoint two or three justices, that's what's going to happen" re: overturning Roe v. Wade is going to be in a Clinton ad by three minutes ago.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 08:17:03 PM
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/788911574165716992

Quote
It would be kind of awesome if Hillary asked Trump if he ever paid for someone else’s abortion.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:17:05 PM
Chris already the best moderator this year

Agree, he's doing a fine job of keeping the discussion moving.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Roe v. Wade will be repealed immediately after Trump picks a judge?  Okay, then...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:17:52 PM
What's Donald reaching for behind that podium? The last two undecided voters?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
Looks like it's at least a debate, not a shouting match with incoherent rants and name calling....let's not jinx it guys


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:18:07 PM
Trump saying "If I appoint two or three justices, that's what's going to happen" re: overturning Roe v. Wade is going to be in a Clinton ad by three minutes ago.

Pair that with Trump saying he was pro choice in the late 90s/early 2000s? Devastating.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:18:25 PM
Let's grab that water Donald!

IT'S TRUMP!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 08:18:52 PM
I'll have to look at this thread for debate updates. School Wifi is absolute sh*t


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: 7,052,770 on October 19, 2016, 08:18:59 PM
Damn, Hillary is on fire. Really knocking the abortion question out of the park.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Chunk Yogurt for President! on October 19, 2016, 08:19:17 PM
"I love abortion, we must keep the abortion industry funded!  Trump doesn't love abortion enough!"

-Hillary


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: JA on October 19, 2016, 08:19:23 PM
Chris already the best moderator this year


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:19:37 PM
RIP THE BABY OUT OF THE WOMB

GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 08:19:57 PM
Hillary is doing fantastic.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 19, 2016, 08:20:17 PM
Hillary just destroyed 40 years of right-wing talking points.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:20:31 PM
Trump's abortion answer won't help him with suburban women.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Chunk Yogurt for President! on October 19, 2016, 08:20:48 PM
Trump is pro-abortion too.  Don't drink the cool-aid.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: JA on October 19, 2016, 08:24:35 PM
"I love abortion, we must keep the abortion industry funded!  Trump doesn't love abortion enough!"

-Hillary

"Allow women to make a choice regarding their own healthcare decisions without interference by the government" somehow equals the nonsense you've said? You need to work on your comprehension skills.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
"Bad hombres"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
Trump is completely incoherent.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 08:25:48 PM
Hillary is sharp today!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:26:06 PM
"He choked."

You could see the rage on his face when she said that. That flipped a switch. Spine chilling.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:26:08 PM
LOL.
"He choked."
I love it !


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
HOMBRE


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Ugh why must Atlas crash at the worst possible times


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Haha, Trump choked on his Mexico trip!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
HRC is kicking his ass right now.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Podgy the Bear on October 19, 2016, 08:27:09 PM
Hillary is crushing it tonight!!  Absolutely on message--a master debater.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 08:27:21 PM
"bigly"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: OneJ on October 19, 2016, 08:27:38 PM
He used the word bigly twice!!!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:27:54 PM

Yes. That was a quasi-racist comment.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:27:57 PM
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY
BIGLY
>BIGLY


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on October 19, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
How does Trump's opinion of Hillary & Obama re: Immigration make any sense? He openly says Obama is a mass deporter, and that Hillary supported border walls/fences - but they do nothing about the problem. It's not consistent at all.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
Quote
Hillary is crushing it tonight!!  Absolutely on message--a master debater.

She is killing it.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 08:28:21 PM
In the zone, HRC. Keep it up. You are dissecting Trump masterfully without being brash.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
"Bigly"

Yep, Clinton is killing it.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:28:34 PM
Hillary is crushing it tonight!!  Absolutely on message--a master debater.
Spicy.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on October 19, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
Trump is winning by staying calm, beating expectations again, it is about expectations, people.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:29:09 PM
#BadHombres


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:29:50 PM
Donny is seething.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:29:51 PM
Trump is winning by staying calm, beating expectations again, it is about expectations, people.

This is calm?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:29:57 PM
Wow, Trump flipped and he's bombing even harder than I thought he would. Clinton point too, if we want a football (or well sports in general) metaphor for this debate "AND THERE'S YOUR DAGGER!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Pyro on October 19, 2016, 08:30:14 PM
Spooky Scary Russia


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:30:34 PM
wiki





leaks


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:30:34 PM
CNN's pro-dem sample should give Clinton the edge, but it will probably be the narrowest of her three wins.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mallow on October 19, 2016, 08:30:36 PM
Trump is winning by staying calm, beating expectations again, it is about expectations, people.

Even if that were true, "beating expectations" wasn't good enough for him in the second debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:30:50 PM
Sounds like a name of a texmex/bbq/distillery joint.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 08:30:56 PM
Hillary is killing Trump on abortion(best way I've heard anyone argue the pro-choice side really), immigration (him using undocumented workers), and WikiLeaks.

Now he's talking about ISIS, his go-to.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
Trump is winning by staying calm, beating expectations again, it is about expectations, people.

He's not calm at all. Also, people thought he did a lot better than expectations but he still lost all the real polls in a landslide.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Cashew on October 19, 2016, 08:31:11 PM
How does Trump's opinion of Hillary & Obama re: Immigration make any sense? He openly says Obama is a mass deporter, and that Hillary supported border walls/fences - but they do nothing about the problem. It's not consistent at all.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BundouYMB on October 19, 2016, 08:31:29 PM
Clinton is absolutely on fire right now. "condemn Russian espionage" is an absolutely amazing line.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
"Putin said nice things about me." He is starting to lose his composure.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
Ohhhhhhh
Clinton just triggered trump on Russia !
LOL.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
Audience acting unruly again... and Trump changes the subject. What the hell is he trying to do?

Clinton: Will you rebuke Russia?
Trump: Obama won't say Radical Islam


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Pyro on October 19, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
"YOU'RE THE PUPPET!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on October 19, 2016, 08:32:30 PM
Hillary is unravelling up there, going full conspiratard/John Bircher.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Senator-elect Spark on October 19, 2016, 08:32:39 PM
Trump is done. Hombre


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
i don't know putin

he's said nice things about me

do you think he likes me?

like...like-likes me?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 08:33:16 PM
NO YOU'RE THE PUPPET

ahahaha this is great


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:33:37 PM
Losing his temper again.  The old Trump is back.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:33:39 PM
Trump is defending Putin.  This will not play well with the general public.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 08:33:46 PM
Everyone is getting angry, Wallace is losing control of the debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 08:33:46 PM
#putinpussypuppet


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:33:51 PM
"You're the puppet!"

Amazing


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:33:59 PM
LMAO.
trump is looking to back Russia in front of the entire country !
HaHaHa !


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 08:34:01 PM
Damn she's on fire attacking Trump on Russia... and Trump is reverting to "Putin is smarter than you!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Podgy the Bear on October 19, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
Trump staying calm???   The Xanax is wearing off quickly...


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
CHINA


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
"Mr. Trump, I'm not just a plant here. I get to ask some questions."

Wallace is doing great.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
Trump: "RUSSIA IS COMING!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on October 19, 2016, 08:34:18 PM
Hillary successfully got Trump on tilt.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:34:28 PM
Trump is getting killed. HRC is just better at this debate thing then he is.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:34:37 PM
Thank you Chris Wallace for fact checking Trump on this nonsense.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BundouYMB on October 19, 2016, 08:34:42 PM
Trump is completely deranged right now LOL. She completely got under her skin.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:34:51 PM
wrong


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 08:35:00 PM
I love watching Donny hang himself. He's never had people able to tell him anything negative, always surrounded himself with yes men and falls apart when he's questioned on anything.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
I don't agree that Clinton is "crushing" it, she is just about average. But, she is lucky that Trump is even more vague and low energy than usual. He had slam dunk opportunities with the Supreme Court and immigration and he punted?!?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:35:22 PM
Everyone is getting angry, Wallace is losing control of the debate.

To be fair, he's in a pretty thankless position.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
Clinton just knocked the wikileaks question out of the ballpark. WOW. I was worried she would fumble that. She nailed that!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
Wallace, do Fitness to be President next. Keep Clinton on a roll.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Holmes on October 19, 2016, 08:36:42 PM
Hillary's doing good. Her only moment of weakness was when Wikileaks came up but then Trump dug himself into a hole with Putin.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fargobison on October 19, 2016, 08:37:07 PM
Wow that was one heck of a pivot off wikileaks by HRC.

Trump melted down bigly.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:38:08 PM
Trump is our special boy! :D


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:38:13 PM
HRC is having fun. Trump is seething.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Hammy on October 19, 2016, 08:38:47 PM
I was worried (and mildly bored) at the start, but Trump's starting to go into meltdown mode.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:38:55 PM
>"I hope that this is handled as well as immigration"

rip


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
"Real" apprenticeships.

Well done.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 08:39:39 PM
trump just doesn't come off good in these debates.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:40:38 PM
Trump's college tuition plan: "We're gonna do a lot of things"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:40:57 PM
What the hell is Trump talking about?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:41:04 PM
Trump: "NATO!!!!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:41:06 PM
Trump's trying to go back to the previous question and not addressing the current one.  Bad debate strategy in general.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 08:41:08 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: dspNY on October 19, 2016, 08:41:10 PM
Clinton's skill level on that Wikileaks pivot was off the charts. Would have beaten any politician with it


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: SteveRogers on October 19, 2016, 08:41:11 PM
This is amazing stuff.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 08:41:21 PM
*sigh*


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BundouYMB on October 19, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
trump just doesn't come off good in these debates.

FTFY


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:41:35 PM
"President Obama's regime"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on October 19, 2016, 08:41:41 PM
trump just doesn't come off good in these debates.

He always tries to keep it cool and focus purely on the question - for the first 25 minutes, and then he reliably gets loud and spins in circles for the rest of the debate. He's so easily played.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:41:42 PM
"a massive, massive tax increase under Hillary Clinton's plan"

Trump, I know that this comes as a shock to you, but you don't count as middle class.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 08:41:50 PM
Trump brings up the giant sucking sound.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

Because the GOP base is crazy and the other candidates sucked.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fargobison on October 19, 2016, 08:41:58 PM
This is quite the rambling word salad of an answer.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 08:42:01 PM
South Korea and Japan aren't in NATO, though...?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Cashew on October 19, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
Incoherent trump is back!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:42:24 PM
Is my livestream 30 seconds or so behind yours? I heard this about 20 seconds ago now


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 19, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
Well folks Hillary will be our next president. Trump is bombing hard.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

4-11 candidate debates. If Trump's campaign was smarter, they would have point-blank refused to debate unless Johnson and Stein were included. Trump has 20 or 25 minutes of good material, but he doesn't have 45 minutes.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:44:07 PM
Congratulations to President Hillary Clinton.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 08:44:27 PM
Clinton is amazingly crisp and articulate tonight.  In the first two debates she was only so-so.  Was she just sandbagging then?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: DrScholl on October 19, 2016, 08:44:35 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

By winning a plurality by carrying the far right of the Republican electorate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Inmate Trump on October 19, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

Because the GOP base is crazy and the other candidates sucked.

The other candidates were mostly legitimate.

GOP primary voters are crazy, that's how Trump won.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:45:02 PM
I don't think it's a good idea for Hillary to bring up her husband for anything (before the election).
Don't give trump or the Pubs an excuse to drag Bill into this election, because of the fact that Hillary brings his name in.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Is my livestream 30 seconds or so behind yours? I heard this about 20 seconds ago now

I don't know.  I'm watching C-SPAN.

/pol/ seems to be ten seconds ahead of me fwiw.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:45:36 PM
Chris Wallace has stated more facts tonight than Donald Trump.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
Hillary is lying about the debt. Understandable, but she is lying there.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
Hillary is, in my opinion calm and focused. Trump is having so many mix feelings. He's very nervous, a lot of pressure on him.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:47:14 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

Because the GOP base is crazy and the other candidates sucked.

The other candidates were mostly legitimate.

GOP primary voters are crazy, that's how Trump won.

How did we go from knocking off our monarchy to having ...people who believe in these....things?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 08:47:14 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

Because the GOP base is crazy and the other candidates sucked.

Maybe. But somehow I think that he had some media and poor GOP leadership help in getting here :)


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:47:23 PM
trump = "I should win this election easily."
LOL


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 08:48:14 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised by Chris Wallace. Maybe he should get off Fox News and join a real news organization. He seems level headed and fair.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Hammy on October 19, 2016, 08:48:27 PM
Clinton needs to bring up Trump's stuff being made in China and Mexico if he's going to complain about job losses.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rocky Rockefeller on October 19, 2016, 08:48:33 PM
2016 is over guys, let's get ready for Clinton v. Duke 2020!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:49:12 PM
Hillary going after Trump on his JAI-NAH hypocrisy.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:49:41 PM
trump = "I should win this election easily."
LOL
....this belongs in a hit ad.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 08:50:00 PM
6 billion?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:50:01 PM
What the hell is he talking about?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 08:50:12 PM
Trump: "I'm so honored that I finally said something true!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Suburbia on October 19, 2016, 08:50:23 PM
This debate is becoming more and more contentious.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:50:24 PM
This whole 6 billion dollars missing from the State Dept is horse-manure !
WTF.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
2016 is over guys, let's get ready for Clinton v. Duke 2020!

Someone is enjoying their time in fantasy land.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Cashew on October 19, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
2016 is over guys, let's get ready for Clinton v. Duke pharma bro 2020!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: uti2 on October 19, 2016, 08:52:54 PM
Somebody remind me...how on earth did Trump win the primaries?

Because the GOP base is crazy and the other candidates sucked.

The other candidates were mostly legitimate.

GOP primary voters are crazy, that's how Trump won.

It's funny to see a berniebro calling the other candidates legitimate, when none of the GOP candidates would consider Bernie to be as such. In any case, they only got elected in the first place due to the tea party wave by pandering to the crazies, so yank is correct.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 08:53:33 PM
Sckrilla or whatever the sh**t his name is?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rocky Rockefeller on October 19, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
2016 is over guys, let's get ready for Clinton v. Duke 2020!

Someone is enjoying their time in fantasy land.

I'm joking... mostly


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:54:35 PM
Trump can never stay on the subject


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:54:56 PM
Trump struggling to put together a coherent sentence on the rape stuff.  I can smell the dog sweat from here.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
If any door for Trump that was open was just slammed shut by this answer.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 08:55:12 PM
Clinton just knocked another one out of the ballpark. Her answer on her experience was amazing.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 19, 2016, 08:55:14 PM
"I didn't apologize to my wife, because I didn't do anything"

holy sh-t

that's damning


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: trebor204 on October 19, 2016, 08:55:42 PM
My livestream from Facebook is ahead of my TV coverage


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
Hillary is killing it on this question about Trump and women.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
"I didn't apologize to my wife, because I didn't do anything"

holy sh-t

that's damning

God what an idiot.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 08:57:05 PM
Clinton, America is Great because America is good is about the worst catch-line possible.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: dspNY on October 19, 2016, 08:57:11 PM
Trump victim-shaming in front of 60 million people...NOT a good look


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 08:57:11 PM
"No one has more respect for women than me."

Literally said the same thing in the last debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 19, 2016, 08:57:17 PM
"Nobody has more respect for women than me."

*Audience laughs*

That moment wins the whole debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 08:57:46 PM
"I didn't apologize to my wife, because I didn't do anything"

holy sh-t

that's damning
"

OMG! What is wrong with this man? Is he TRYING to blow this?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 08:57:50 PM
trump is losing so far.
No doubt.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: SteveRogers on October 19, 2016, 08:58:20 PM
"But emails!"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Senator-elect Spark on October 19, 2016, 08:58:48 PM
My hope for true change was ultimately lost. Trump let me down.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 19, 2016, 09:02:29 PM
I like how Trump said that he never met the women who accused him even though one of them profiled him for People magazine.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Cashew on October 19, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
There is no way the media can spin this.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Hammy on October 19, 2016, 09:03:05 PM
Clinton's answer to the Clinton Foundation question was kind of weak and really side-stepped the question, this won't look good to many viewers.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 09:03:53 PM
I am so happy that Clinton summarized the trump blunders in regards to :
The disabled reporter
The attack on the Khan family for their religion
The attack on Judge Curiel's heritage
etc.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on October 19, 2016, 09:03:59 PM
Of course Trump is losing (he always does), but just not as spectacularly as I'd think.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 09:04:15 PM
My hope for true change was ultimately lost. Trump let me down.

His ego wants him to win but he doesn't actually want him to be President. Hence the throwing the election (if he's even that smart) and calling it rigged. He's going for publicity (which he's failed at being so unpopular now) but it's ok, he gets Trump TV biased news.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
"Didn't you use donations to pay your legal fees?"
"We put up an American flag."


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: uti2 on October 19, 2016, 09:05:07 PM
Of course Trump is losing (he always does), but just not as spectacularly as I'd think.

This is more line with his normal performance.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 09:05:12 PM
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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Classic Conservative on October 19, 2016, 09:05:19 PM
LA Times is saying that Round 1 and 3 have been tied


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 09:05:19 PM
Chris Wallace is doing a good job of fact checking when he needs to.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: kyc0705 on October 19, 2016, 09:05:56 PM
Of course Trump is losing (he always does), but just not as spectacularly as I'd think.

It's honestly hard to tell with Trump's debate performances. Is he just mildly bad or extremely bad? Sooner or later, it just resembles the horseshoe theory.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 09:06:25 PM
Clinton's answer to the Clinton Foundation question was kind of weak and really side-stepped the question, this won't look good to many viewers.

You really are a kill-joy.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BoAtlantis on October 19, 2016, 09:06:37 PM
"Didn't you use donations to pay your legal fees?"
"We put up an American flag."

LOL I died at that part.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 09:06:52 PM
Tax return hit.....nice save Hillary.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 09:07:00 PM
trump is talking gibberish and he is all over the place, in where watching America is lost with everything he says. It's just useless.
On the other hand, Hillary makes concise comments and statements related to the topic at hand.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: 2952-0-0 on October 19, 2016, 09:07:20 PM
Hillary's zinger about the Trump hotel having Chinese steel was an audience-inciting zinger.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:07:37 PM
Chris Wallace is doing a good job of fact checking when he needs to.

He's a terrific moderator.  I wish he'd done the other two debates.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fargobison on October 19, 2016, 09:07:40 PM
Chris Wallace is doing a good job of fact checking when he needs to.

He should moderate a debate for as long as he wants, he's done a great job tonight and it isn't easy with these two.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 09:07:45 PM
Trump blew this. I don't think he cares anymore. He just wants to be done.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
Trump is so bad


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
Chris Wallace is doing a good job of fact checking when he needs to.

He has shown amazing constraint and patience.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:08:22 PM
Trump has gone completely off his rocker. This is everything HRC wanted.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 09:08:57 PM
Trump will "keep us in suspense" when he loses the election.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: SteveRogers on October 19, 2016, 09:09:23 PM
Trump refusing to agree to accept the result of the election. Incredible.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on October 19, 2016, 09:09:40 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story. How is it going so far? Is Hilldog still owning his ass?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 19, 2016, 09:09:55 PM
This pretty much describes his performance tonight:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TIvxqUCu41Q


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fargobison on October 19, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
The Trump train is back off the rails, bigly.

This is like the first debate all over again.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 09:10:13 PM
Trump just repeated that the Emmy's were rigged against him. . .



Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:10:24 PM
"I should have won it" when talking about the rigged Emmy claim.  Yeah, it was funny, but it completely validated her point about his mindset.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 09:10:36 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story. How is it going so far? Is Hilldog still owning his ass?

She is a beast.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 09:10:42 PM
I lolled at "Because...that's...horrifying."


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: emailking on October 19, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
I wanted to concur with everyone that I think Wallace is doing a great job, maybe the best so far.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on October 19, 2016, 09:11:00 PM
That Chinese steel comment is the nail in the coffin.

Now she's just eviscerating him. Throw in the towel, you're done Trump.  O'Reilly and Fox News gave you all the ways to hit Hillary and you failed YUGELY. You're done.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 09:11:01 PM
Clinton just smashed trump on the "rigged elections" topic !
SMASHED !


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 09:11:07 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story. How is it going so far? Is Hilldog still owning his ass?

I'm pretty sure we're all watching American Horror Story right now.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 09:11:34 PM
Devastating.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
Trump is just not good at debating.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on October 19, 2016, 09:12:04 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story.

This election is the true American horror story.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:12:34 PM
#TrumpsBottomHasFallen


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:12:37 PM
This is appropriate again.

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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fargobison on October 19, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story. How is it going so far? Is Hilldog still owning his ass?

I'm pretty sure we're all watching American Horror Story right now.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:14:03 PM
Trump will "keep us in suspense" when he loses the election.

That was horrifying. Keep us in suspense? This is not a Friday night thriller. This is the integrity of American democracy, the very fabric of our country. You cannot play games with that.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 09:14:03 PM
Intelligence surge - music to my ears.


Might make it my stripper name.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 09:14:04 PM
I honestly think Trump at this point has given up and is just wanting to be done with all of this.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Uh, why is Trump speaking in tongues?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 19, 2016, 09:15:22 PM
Once again, this is still relevant:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TIvxqUCu41Q


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 09:15:25 PM
Yeah, coalition forces are assaulting Mosul to help Hillary. Rigged!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:15:39 PM
I turned over to American Horror Story. How is it going so far? Is Hilldog still owning his ass?

Oh, I thought we were watching American Horror Story.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
Iran is taking over Iraq?  When did this happen?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 09:16:01 PM
What the hell is he talking about??


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
Trump is just not good at debating.

Four decades of yes men and getting your way will do that.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:16:41 PM
Wrong
-trump when lying


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: DrScholl on October 19, 2016, 09:16:45 PM
Evangelical outreach?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 09:17:00 PM
Trump is just not good at debating.

Four decades of yes men and getting your way will do that.

This.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Inmate Trump on October 19, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
"Wrong"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
Love this!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:17:35 PM
What on God's green earth is he talking about? Iran is taking Iraq? Say what?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:17:56 PM

I attend an Evangelical-leaning Church during the academic year and the pastors never speak in tongues.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 09:18:35 PM
Local news (MyNews13 covering I-4 Central Florida ) has this poll up lol

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Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 09:18:44 PM
Clinton's answer to the Clinton Foundation question was kind of weak and really side-stepped the question, this won't look good to many viewers.
I agree, but she's still totally crushing him on balance.



Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
Iran is taking over Iraq?  When did this happen?

There is a case to be made for it (most of the army is Shia just like Iran, and Mosul is Sunni); but I doubt Trump knows any of this.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: OneJ on October 19, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
What is Aleppo?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 09:19:00 PM
Iran is taking over Iraq?

Last debate he said we should ally with Iran, Russia, and Assad.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:19:09 PM
Wiki leaks faked those things, and Bernie actually praised clinton


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:19:15 PM


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Cashew on October 19, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
"you are the one that's unfit"
He just can't help but project.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 09:19:29 PM
Local news (MyNews13 covering I-4 Central Florida ) has this poll up lol

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Milwaukee Metro news stations will be the same. Notice how on all of these you have to re-vote to see the results a lot of the time? lo


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
Trump is arguing with Wallace lol.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 09:19:47 PM
Haha, Wallace just called Trump a lair!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
OH MY GOD HILLARY JUST KILLED HIM WITH A BERNIE. OH MY GOD.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 09:20:33 PM
Does Trump not know what the word "fallen" means?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Maxwell on October 19, 2016, 09:20:45 PM
HAVE YOU SEEN IT??!?!?!?!?

god shut up trump


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:20:54 PM
Holy crap, is Wallace actually having to side against Trump?!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Gass3268 on October 19, 2016, 09:21:00 PM
Clinton's answer to the Clinton Foundation question was kind of weak and really side-stepped the question, this won't look good to many viewers.
I agree, but she's still totally crushing him on balance.

The best she can do there is just move on.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
Dear lord, shes killing it.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
We all know who Wallace is voting for now :)


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 09:21:32 PM
Trump is just rambling now.....he is done.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Blue3 on October 19, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
10 minutes left, right?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:21:56 PM
We all know who Wallace is voting for now :)

Honestly, probably neither of these two candidates.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:22:02 PM
Trump assuming all immigrants are ISIS.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 09:22:29 PM
Lots of luck Hillary?   Did Trump just concede?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 09:22:41 PM
Hillary must have a big house if she took thousands of refugees in.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:23:18 PM

Roughly


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:24:32 PM
Hillary must have a big house if she took thousands of refugees in.

Now I have that image in my head.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 09:25:13 PM
CONGRATS PRESIDENT CLINTON!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 19, 2016, 09:25:17 PM
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hahaha


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:25:23 PM
SHUT
THE
FK
UP
TRUMP
!
!
!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 09:26:47 PM
We know what the job growth rate is, but what is the tremendous job growth rate?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Knives on October 19, 2016, 09:26:50 PM
Trump is so dumb omg.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Lots of luck Hillary?   Did Trump just concede?

I believe so.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 09:27:18 PM
Trump does not understand the question.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Senator-elect Spark on October 19, 2016, 09:27:44 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: BuckeyeNut on October 19, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
Wallace never liked Trump. Remember the first GOP primary in Cleveland?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Alaska2392 on October 19, 2016, 09:29:13 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.

Oh okay.  So now it's not "she's not going to win".  It's that "She's only getting one term"


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.

I thought that about Obama too, but incumbency has its power and if there's the status quo at worst she probably wins due to that.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 19, 2016, 09:29:21 PM
While I don't believe it will ultimately be necessary, if the race somehow becomes a dead heat again and I feel like I have to hold my nose for Hillary, tonight made it a lot less painful to do so.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Chunk Yogurt for President! on October 19, 2016, 09:29:25 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

I thought you were just anti-Trump, when did you start actually liking Hillary?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on October 19, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Economists agree we are F-ed with either of you, what BS can you respond with?

This is like watching a 5 year old and a 10 year old debate.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: / on October 19, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249029.0

Vote!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Devout Centrist on October 19, 2016, 09:30:57 PM
Economists agree we are F-ed with either of you, what BS can you respond with?

This is like watching a 5 year old and a 10 year old debate.
What economists? The corpse of Von Mises?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 09:31:05 PM
Hillary, I knew Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a friend of mine. Hillary, you're no Ronald Reagan.

Well, instead he said he disagreed with Reagan. Lol.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2016, 09:31:27 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.

Like I said, she will probably be not unlike 41.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
trump shouldn't keep waving his hands in front of the camera.
His little fingers and hands are hilarious.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
"Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. Mr. Trump."

MUH OBAMACARE. WE ARE GOING TO DO SO GREAT.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: riceowl on October 19, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
Uh, calling her a "nasty woman" isn't going to help you bud.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rand on October 19, 2016, 09:33:28 PM
"Such a nasty woman."

Think before you speak, McGropey.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 19, 2016, 09:33:29 PM
OH MY GOD. Trump just said that he was glad that health care premiums went up.

Yeah, he's f---ed.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Wells on October 19, 2016, 09:33:41 PM
Why did Trump call Clinton a nasty woman? What did she say to #trigger him?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 09:33:46 PM
He did not said that!!! :(


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fusionmunster on October 19, 2016, 09:33:50 PM
I just gasped.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
Wallace: What is your plan for entitlements?

Trump: OBAMACARE!

What?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: PeteB on October 19, 2016, 09:34:41 PM
Why did Trump call Clinton a nasty woman? What did she say to #trigger him?

She implied he will not pay the premiums or taxes.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
"Such a nasty woman?"

"Your husband disagrees with you!"

I'm speechless. What is he thinking? He can't be making this big of a mess by accident. This has to be on purpose.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:35:50 PM
Why did Trump call Clinton a nasty woman? What did she say to #trigger him?

She implied he will not pay the premiums or taxes.

She's masterful at setting the hook (admittedly, Trump is an easy target).


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Why did Trump call Clinton a nasty woman? What did she say to #trigger him?

She implied he will not pay the premiums or taxes.

She's masterful at setting the hook (admittedly, Trump is an easy target).

This


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: uti2 on October 19, 2016, 09:36:25 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.

Like I said, she will probably be not unlike 41.

41 lost because of Perot, she is more like 43, remember, W. lost the popular vote.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Wells on October 19, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
"Such a nasty woman?"

"Your husband disagrees with you!"

I'm speechless. What is he thinking? He can't be making this big of a mess by accident. This has to be on purpose.

Nobody has greater respect for women!


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Yank2133 on October 19, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
"We can't take four more years of Barack Obama."

Obama has 50+ approval rating.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 19, 2016, 09:36:50 PM
Just listening to Hillary's closing statement was better than anything trump said all night long.
trump said nothing but negative things/issues in his closing statement .... what an idiot !


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:37:17 PM
"We can't take four more years of Barack Obama."

Obama has 50+ approval rating.

Bruh, I want 4 more years of President Obama. You fool.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: user12345 on October 19, 2016, 09:37:46 PM
"We can't take four more years of Barack Obama."

Obama has 50+ approval rating.
I want as many more years of Obama as I can have.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on October 19, 2016, 09:37:48 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON 2017-2025 LET THE ERA OF PROSPERITY BEGIN!

She's only getting 1 term.

Like I said, she will probably be not unlike 41.

41 lost because of Perot, she is more like 43, remember, W. lost the popular vote.

False. Clinton was leading by a bigger margin before Perot dropped back him. Bush's campaign said they were glad he was back because it gave them a chance to draw even with Clinton.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: / on October 19, 2016, 09:37:51 PM
Who won the debate?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249029.msg5328800#msg5328800


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lyin' Steve on October 19, 2016, 09:38:33 PM
Wow, Meg Whitman was sitting right next to Chelsea.  She's going to be one of her across-the-aisle appointments, take it to the bank.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:38:37 PM
CNN commentators immediately going to Trump possibly not accepting the result of the election.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: user12345 on October 19, 2016, 09:39:26 PM
CNN commentators immediately going to Trump possibly not accepting the result of the election.
Same on Fox.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: emailking on October 19, 2016, 09:39:41 PM
"We can't take four more years of Barack Obama."

Obama has 50+ approval rating.

Bruh, I want 4 more years of President Obama. You fool.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:40:02 PM
Wow, Meg Whitman was sitting right next to Chelsea.  She's going to be one of her across-the-aisle appointments, take it to the bank.

Secretary of Commerce?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: musicblind on October 19, 2016, 09:40:37 PM
"We can't take four more years of Barack Obama."

Obama has 50+ approval rating.
I want as many more years of Obama as I can have.

I wish Obama could run for a third term. I'd gladly take him over either of these candidates. He's the best president of my lifetime.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: dspNY on October 19, 2016, 09:41:04 PM
Trump not accepting the results of an election is disastrous for him and will completely tank him with independent voters


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Lachi on October 19, 2016, 09:41:34 PM
CNN commentators immediately going to Trump possibly not accepting the result of the election.
Same on Fox.
Same on channel 7 (Australian TV channel)


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2016, 09:42:01 PM
CNN commentators immediately going to Trump possibly not accepting the result of the election.
Same on Fox.

That was his suicide statement.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 19, 2016, 09:42:45 PM
Trump not accepting the results of an election is disastrous for him and will completely tank him with independent voters

This.  He was in bad shape going into this debate, but he's burned the bridge now. 


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Crumpets on October 19, 2016, 09:43:52 PM
Trump not accepting the results of an election is disastrous for him and will completely tank him with independent voters

Who knows, maybe there's a constituency who will vote for Trump after that to avoid conflict since they know Clinton will concede.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: An American Tail: Fubart Goes West on October 19, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Honestly, Chris Wallace was a decent moderator.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: uti2 on October 19, 2016, 09:44:54 PM
People here exaggerate Reagan, he is nothing like JFK, he was just in the right place at  the right time. Carter's cowardice over Iran cost him his re-election, and Bush Sr. was also trailing Dukakis until Willie Horton. Then for his reelection bid, Bush got hammered by Perot.

Obama is more like JFK, creating a new coalition based on demographics, Biden would've been the LBJ, had he run, Hillary is in a different set of circumstances.

Reagan didn't create anything new, he just ran with Nixon's coalition.  Big difference between that and what Obama, JFK and Nixon did.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: dspNY on October 19, 2016, 09:45:12 PM
Trump not accepting the results of an election is disastrous for him and will completely tank him with independent voters

Who knows, maybe there's a constituency who will vote for Trump after that to avoid conflict since they know Clinton will concede.

No. The vast majority of Americans consider our country a democracy and in a democracy, the loser has to concede...it is anti-American not to accept defeat in an election you have clearly lost


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Rocky Rockefeller on October 19, 2016, 09:45:27 PM
Kellyann on cnn

"Trump will accept the election because he will win the election" lol


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: SteveRogers on October 19, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
CNN commentators immediately going to Trump possibly not accepting the result of the election.

Kellyanne giving her dingbat spin on CNN right now.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on October 19, 2016, 09:46:27 PM
i usually restrain from spinning but....she destroyed him.

he was spilling more nonsensical stuff than in the two other debates and was complaining all the time...ignoring mister o'keefe AND benghazi, rejecting the question, if he would accept the results and called her a nasty woman.

if those debates are represenative in any way...this was the TKO.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Mike88 on October 19, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Frank Luntz focus group:

Trump 14
Clinton 12

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/788934049481957377


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 19, 2016, 09:49:38 PM
Frank Luntz focus group:

Trump 14
Clinton 12

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/788934049481957377

Compared to his other terrible groups, isn't this a bad sign for Trump?


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 19, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Frank Luntz focus group:

Trump 14
Clinton 12

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/788934049481957377

Compared to his other terrible groups, isn't this a bad sign for Trump?

Basically if you're an undecided voter at THIS point, you're a moron, and especially if you're an undecided voter in NV.


Title: Re: University of Nevada POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread**
Post by: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on October 19, 2016, 10:18:22 PM
Uh, calling her a "nasty woman" isn't going to help you bud.

But it will help her. Combine that with his implicit concession and I really don't think he wants to win.