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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: The Other Castro on October 22, 2016, 10:04:13 AM



Title: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: The Other Castro on October 22, 2016, 10:04:13 AM
Clinton - 46%
Trump - 38%

Clinton - 41%
Trump - 36%
Johnson - 7%
Stein - 3%

Poll of likely voters conducted October 16-19

The previous poll conducted here by MRG was from September 11-15, and showed Clinton leading +5 in both heats.

http://mrgmi.com/2016/10/michigan-poll-trump-trails-clinton-by-five-percent/


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 22, 2016, 10:05:33 AM
3 point swing is nice, but it's still pre-3rd debate.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: heatcharger on October 22, 2016, 10:07:11 AM
How is it even close if he's only winning white voters by 5 points?


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: The Other Castro on October 22, 2016, 10:08:28 AM
How is it even close if he's only winning white voters by 5 points?

The problem you are making here is expecting a Michigan poll to make sense.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Gass3268 on October 22, 2016, 10:08:45 AM
Michigan won't be close


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 22, 2016, 10:16:21 AM
How is it even close if he's only winning white voters by 5 points?

The problem you are making here is expecting a Michigan poll to make sense.

And also the crosstabs in pretty much any poll, anywhere aren't supposed to be taken too seriously...

You'd expect it on major news website comment sections but people on here should really know better.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Person Man on October 22, 2016, 10:27:16 AM
This actually helped HRC by .1% after IBD helped teh Donald 1% on 538 this morning.


Title: MI: Marketing Resource Group: Clinton with Slight Lead in Michigan
Post by: ElectionAtlas on October 22, 2016, 10:46:52 AM
New Poll: Michigan President by Marketing Resource Group on 2016-10-19 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2620161019121)

Summary: D: 41%, R: 36%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://mrgmi.com/2016/10/michigan-poll-trump-trails-clinton-by-five-percent/)


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Skye on October 22, 2016, 10:47:07 AM
I've noticed Michigan polls don't change regardless of Clinton's national numbers? It's always high single digits/low double digits.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Person Man on October 22, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
I've noticed Michigan polls don't change regardless of Clinton's national numbers? It's always high single digits/low double digits.

"Inelastic?"


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Bismarck on October 22, 2016, 11:17:26 AM
Looks like Michigan will trend R a little bit as is excepted. Also him leading by five with whites and being down 5-8 makes sense in a state where 80% of voters are white and most minorities are African American.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 22, 2016, 12:42:22 PM
The average lead in MI for Hillary, in 538's data, shows about +9 with a 91% chance of winning this state.
I'm not concerned about Michigan through Nov 8th.


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 22, 2016, 12:43:09 PM
JUNK POLL!!!


Title: Re: MI-MRG: Clinton +8, +5 in 4-way
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 22, 2016, 01:56:00 PM
People put way too much stock into crosstab results. They are generally crap even on A+ polls.