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Title: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: BoAtlantis on October 28, 2016, 03:29:28 pm
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/5a280d25318f2afe3f311adb6/files/AZ_Statewide_LivePoll_Demographics_10_27.01.pdf

Clinton 40
Trump 42
Johnson 5
Stein 2

10/26-10/27


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: dfwlibertylover on October 28, 2016, 03:46:23 pm
So a D internal found Clinton + 2 and a R Internal found Trump + 2, does that equal out to a tie?


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: Alcon on October 28, 2016, 03:49:56 pm
So a D internal found Clinton + 2 and a R Internal found Trump + 2, does that equal out to a tie?

Is this an internal?  A poll done by a pollster with a partisan affiliation isn't the same as an internal, which is a poll done privately and often released opportunistically.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: dfwlibertylover on October 28, 2016, 04:02:08 pm
Not sure, sad to see Marijuana legalization is failing 50-42 in this poll, though


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: Mehmentum on October 28, 2016, 04:12:58 pm
So a D internal found Clinton + 2 and a R Internal found Trump + 2, does that equal out to a tie?
It seems pretty clear that Arizona is a tossup right now.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: ProudModerate2 on October 28, 2016, 09:39:23 pm
Not sure, sad to see Marijuana legalization is failing 50-42 in this poll, though

Actually, that's a good thing.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: NOVA Green on October 28, 2016, 09:55:00 pm
Not sure, sad to see Marijuana legalization is failing 50-42 in this poll, though

Actually, that's a good thing.

Are you talking about the extreme over-representation of older and Republican voters in this polls sample in Arizona, or your personal opinion on legalization?

In Oregon, we have added a huge amount of revenue to the Oregon General Fund for schools and social services, created almost 3,000 new jobs, and saved a ton of money in incarceration fees in city, county, and state for non-violent marijuana possession, cultivation, and distribution related charges.

Marijuana consumption is only increasing among adults over the age of 45, particularly with adults over 65 that are now using Marijuana for in greater number for medical related issues now that the stigma is gone.

Not sure what your statement means, but out here legalization of weed works, and hopefully at some point we can take some of the revenue to deal with a real problem of Meth addiction and abuse that has created so much harm in rural and small-town communities from Roseburg to Albany/Corvallis out to the Coast Newport/Seaside and in many small mill-towns throughout the entire state, even up to Metro Portland (What's up 82nd/102nd Avenue?).


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: komodozer on October 29, 2016, 01:09:54 am
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: 5280 on October 29, 2016, 12:59:47 pm
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 
Marijuana legalization could pass, while Hillary loses. There's that scenario also.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: Hammy on October 29, 2016, 01:17:34 pm
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 
Marijuana legalization could pass, while Hillary loses. There's that scenario also.

Isn't the marijuana bill down by even more? I can see the opposite happening more likely.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: Horus on October 29, 2016, 01:21:42 pm
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 
Marijuana legalization could pass, while Hillary loses. There's that scenario also.

Isn't the marijuana bill down by even more? I can see the opposite happening more likely.

Yeah, IIRC Latinos are more likely than blacks or whites to support continued prohibition. I could see a decent number of Latinos over 50 voting for Hillary and against weed.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: Landslide Andy on October 29, 2016, 01:21:52 pm
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 

I don't see the correlation here. Men, which mostly support Trump, tend to support legalization at a far higher rate than women, which mostly support Hillary.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: 5280 on October 29, 2016, 05:05:17 pm
People who vote against legalization and for Hillary are statists.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: BoAtlantis on October 29, 2016, 05:11:40 pm
People who vote against legalization and for Hillary are statists.

Hillary is no more of a statist than someone who supports tariffs, opposes trades, punishes women for abortion, whines about free press of the media, temporarily wants to ban Muslims and doesn't want to loosen immigration.


Title: Re: AZ-Data Orbital(R): Trump +2
Post by: President Griffin on October 29, 2016, 08:32:57 pm
If marijuana legalization is about to get nixed in Arizona, there is absolutely no way Hillary will carry this state. 
Marijuana legalization could pass, while Hillary loses. There's that scenario also.

Isn't the marijuana bill down by even more? I can see the opposite happening more likely.

Yeah, IIRC Latinos are more likely than blacks or whites to support continued prohibition. I could see a decent number of Latinos over 50 voting for Hillary and against weed.

There aren't many Latinos over 50 voting period. That's why their share of the electorate is still skewed even when compared to CVAP; a majority of Latino voters in this election will have not cast a ballot in any election prior to 2008.