Title: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: amdcpus on November 02, 2016, 07:30:30 PM http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/
Trump 39% Clinton 39% Johnson 5% Stein 4% Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: dspNY on November 02, 2016, 07:31:17 PM http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/ Trump 39% Clinton 39% Johnson 5% Stein 4% Umm...no. Early vote doesn't indicate this at all Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Horus on November 02, 2016, 07:31:41 PM I'm one of the few people here who genuinely thinks Trump will win. This poll is still garbage.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 02, 2016, 07:32:27 PM Lol, no. I'm sure it's closer than it was a few weeks ago, but both under 40? Give me a break.
Early vote is going too well for Clinton for this outcome. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: psychprofessor on November 02, 2016, 07:35:05 PM c'mon, let's get serious here - as stated in the article:
"It featured fewer Latino voters than expected to cast ballots and also less unaffiliated voters." IT ONLY HAS 9% LATINO SAMPLE...in freakin Colorado. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Mike88 on November 02, 2016, 07:36:00 PM Denver University? I think this is the first time they make a poll. Didn't saw nothing from 2012, 2014 nor 2008.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fusionmunster on November 02, 2016, 07:37:15 PM So, never released a poll before and openly admits under polling Latinos. Gonna just throw it in the average.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 02, 2016, 07:37:19 PM the famous trump - benett split voter.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: The Other Castro on November 02, 2016, 07:39:25 PM Where have all the good polls gone
And where are all the gods? Where's the old fivethirtyeight to fight Trump's rising odds? Isn't there a gold standard releasing news next week? Hopefully Clinton will lead And outside the MOE I need a pollster I'm holding out for a pollster 'til the end of the night It's gotta be new And it's gotta come soon And it's gotta have a large sample size I need a pollster! Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Mike88 on November 02, 2016, 07:40:32 PM c'mon, let's get serious here - as stated in the article: "It featured fewer Latino voters than expected to cast ballots and also less unaffiliated voters." IT ONLY HAS 9% LATINO SAMPLE...in freakin Colorado. Seriously? If they admit they are under-sampling why even bother to make a poll? I think every one wants their 5 minutes of fame this year. ;) Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 02, 2016, 07:42:03 PM And Trump is still behind....
CO - Safe D. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 07:53:39 PM It looks good for the ballot questions. Why haven't the other polls been added in there?
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Ebsy on November 02, 2016, 08:03:57 PM Who?
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: LimoLiberal on November 02, 2016, 08:21:11 PM Harry Enten on twitter:
"That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/793984293559238656 Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Ebsy on November 02, 2016, 08:24:00 PM Harry Enten on twitter: "That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." They are unrated by 538. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: LimoLiberal on November 02, 2016, 08:25:21 PM Harry Enten on twitter: "That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." They are unrated by 538. Nope. The poll was conducted by Ciruli Associates. Rating on 538? A+ Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Dr. Arch on November 02, 2016, 08:25:48 PM Yep, because CO is going to be 9% Hispanic.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: JJC on November 02, 2016, 08:27:50 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton.
Today RCP made seven changes in their state projection... all away from Hillary. Trump still has an up hill battle, but now he has many more options open to him now. He has two must wins in the bag (IA/OH) and FL/NC early voting looks good for him (especially NC). Those are his four must wins. He just needs one more state. Before, all other states seemed out of reach except NV (which would fall just short of 270). Now, he has many options. NV, NH, WI, MI, VA, CO, PA, and ME-1 are all in play. RCP's map currently stands at 226C - 180T with 132EV tossups (does not include MI/WI either). RCP no tossup is: 273C - 265T. Clinton still has an advantage, but it's anyone's game. And given how early voting is looking for Hillary, I'd start to really worry if I was her. Remember, most polls project a 2012 like electorate. But most early voting looks closer to 2014. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 02, 2016, 08:28:38 PM Harry Enten on twitter: "That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." They are unrated by 538. Wow... It is likely an outlier. But it is a good one for Trump indeed! Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Ebsy on November 02, 2016, 08:29:26 PM Harry Enten on twitter: "That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." They are unrated by 538. Nope. The poll was conducted by Ciruli Associates. Rating on 538? A+ So they have only polled once this cycle? Odd. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: TC 25 on November 02, 2016, 08:30:58 PM The trends are obvious. Michigan, Colorado, other states moving in Trump's direction.
Let's face it: Trump is going to pull this off. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: JJC on November 02, 2016, 08:37:36 PM The trends are obvious. Michigan, Colorado, other states moving in Trump's direction. Let's face it: Trump is going to pull this off. I agree. I'm starting to get the Scott Brown 2010 senate run vibe. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: JerryArkansas on November 02, 2016, 09:01:04 PM The trends are obvious. Michigan, Colorado, other states moving in Trump's direction. Let's face it: Trump is going to pull this off. I agree. I'm starting to get the Scott Brown 2010 senate run vibe. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Dr. Arch on November 02, 2016, 09:02:35 PM The trends are obvious. Michigan, Colorado, other states moving in Trump's direction. Let's face it: Trump is going to pull this off. I agree. I'm starting to get the Scott Brown 2010 senate run vibe. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fusionmunster on November 02, 2016, 09:11:23 PM Fact: This poll oversampled whites and undersampled latinos. I'm not going to unskew, but the latino voting percentage in Colorado is not going to see a sharp decline like this poll shows.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 09:19:04 PM The trends are obvious. Michigan, Colorado, other states moving in Trump's direction. Let's face it: Trump is going to pull this off. I agree. I'm starting to get the Scott Brown 2010 senate run vibe. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Kempros on November 02, 2016, 09:31:37 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. Today RCP made seven changes in their state projection... all away from Hillary. Trump still has an up hill battle, but now he has many more options open to him now. He has two must wins in the bag (IA/OH) and FL/NC early voting looks good for him (especially NC). Those are his four must wins. He just needs one more state. Before, all other states seemed out of reach except NV (which would fall just short of 270). Now, he has many options. NV, NH, WI, MI, VA, CO, PA, and ME-1 are all in play. RCP's map currently stands at 226C - 180T with 132EV tossups (does not include MI/WI either). RCP no tossup is: 273C - 265T. Clinton still has an advantage, but it's anyone's game. And given how early voting is looking for Hillary, I'd start to really worry if I was her. Remember, most polls project a 2012 like electorate. But most early voting looks closer to 2014. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fusionmunster on November 02, 2016, 09:32:58 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. Today RCP made seven changes in their state projection... all away from Hillary. Trump still has an up hill battle, but now he has many more options open to him now. He has two must wins in the bag (IA/OH) and FL/NC early voting looks good for him (especially NC). Those are his four must wins. He just needs one more state. Before, all other states seemed out of reach except NV (which would fall just short of 270). Now, he has many options. NV, NH, WI, MI, VA, CO, PA, and ME-1 are all in play. RCP's map currently stands at 226C - 180T with 132EV tossups (does not include MI/WI either). RCP no tossup is: 273C - 265T. Clinton still has an advantage, but it's anyone's game. And given how early voting is looking for Hillary, I'd start to really worry if I was her. Remember, most polls project a 2012 like electorate. But most early voting looks closer to 2014. We'll find out in a week. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: StatesPoll on November 02, 2016, 09:36:09 PM Red Avatars: undersampled Hispanic about -5%. only 9% Hispanics in the Poll? !!! blah blah blah
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/ 1. This poll oversampled college degree / undersampled HS/Some college horribly Univ of Denver: degree 59% | HS/Some college 40% 2012 CO exit Poll: degree 49% | HS/Some College 48% http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/CO/president/ can u see? oversampled degree +10%, undersampled HS/Some College -8%. :p 2. 'undersampled' Hispanics about 5% doesn't make that great difference as Red Avatar's delusion. YouGov Model 11/1 Colorado Hispanic: Hillary 61% | TRUMP 30% Other: Hillary 57% | TRUMP 31% 5% x (61-57)= 0.2% wow! massive change :p https://today.yougov.com/us-election/?state=Colorado 3. Conclusion with #UnskewthePoll TRUMP is winning in Colorado :D Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2016, 09:37:09 PM Ah good. I already figured this was an outlier, but statespoll showing up with positivity confirms that for me. Thanks bud.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Dr. Arch on November 02, 2016, 09:37:19 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. Today RCP made seven changes in their state projection... all away from Hillary. Trump still has an up hill battle, but now he has many more options open to him now. He has two must wins in the bag (IA/OH) and FL/NC early voting looks good for him (especially NC). Those are his four must wins. He just needs one more state. Before, all other states seemed out of reach except NV (which would fall just short of 270). Now, he has many options. NV, NH, WI, MI, VA, CO, PA, and ME-1 are all in play. RCP's map currently stands at 226C - 180T with 132EV tossups (does not include MI/WI either). RCP no tossup is: 273C - 265T. Clinton still has an advantage, but it's anyone's game. And given how early voting is looking for Hillary, I'd start to really worry if I was her. Remember, most polls project a 2012 like electorate. But most early voting looks closer to 2014. Note that RCP is selective in what polls they add. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, is not there. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday, Clinton+8, is also not there. But they always add outliers like these to their averages. It's a manipulated average. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 09:42:22 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. Today RCP made seven changes in their state projection... all away from Hillary. Trump still has an up hill battle, but now he has many more options open to him now. He has two must wins in the bag (IA/OH) and FL/NC early voting looks good for him (especially NC). Those are his four must wins. He just needs one more state. Before, all other states seemed out of reach except NV (which would fall just short of 270). Now, he has many options. NV, NH, WI, MI, VA, CO, PA, and ME-1 are all in play. RCP's map currently stands at 226C - 180T with 132EV tossups (does not include MI/WI either). RCP no tossup is: 273C - 265T. Clinton still has an advantage, but it's anyone's game. And given how early voting is looking for Hillary, I'd start to really worry if I was her. Remember, most polls project a 2012 like electorate. But most early voting looks closer to 2014. Note that RCP is selective in what polls they add. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, is not there. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday, Clinton+8, is also not there. But they always add outliers like these to their averages. It's a manipulated average. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on November 02, 2016, 09:54:21 PM Red Avatars: undersampled Hispanic about -5%. only 9% Hispanics in the Poll? !!! blah blah blah http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/ 1. This poll oversampled college degree / undersampled HS/Some college horribly Univ of Denver: degree 59% | HS/Some college 40% 2012 CO exit Poll: degree 49% | HS/Some College 48% http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/CO/president/ can u see? oversampled degree +10%, undersampled HS/Some College -8%. :p 2. 'undersampled' Hispanics about 5% doesn't make that great difference as Red Avatar's delusion. YouGov Model 11/1 Colorado Hispanic: Hillary 61% | TRUMP 30% Other: Hillary 57% | TRUMP 31% 5% x (61-57)= 0.2% wow! massive change :p https://today.yougov.com/us-election/?state=Colorado 3. Conclusion with #UnskewthePoll TRUMP is winning in Colorado :D Hispanic: CLINTON 61% | donald 30% (61-30)%= 31% If CO is tied at this level and at 9% Hispanic at C+30, others must create T+2.7. 2.7*100/91 = 2.9. So, non-Hispanics would be at T+2.9. Then, unskewing for Hispanics would add (2.9+31)%*5% = 1.7% to the poll. Maybe not statistically significant, but certainly enough to turn off the Trump-fetishists a little, and if we're already unskewing, then I'm glad to get that far :P Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: ProudModerate2 on November 02, 2016, 09:55:41 PM Harry Enten on twitter: "That CO poll with Clinton/Trump tied is from a good pollster. Worst poll for Clinton I've seen in a while." They are unrated by 538. Nope. The poll was conducted by Ciruli Associates. Rating on 538? A+ 538 has NOT rated this pollster. It shows as blank in the "Grade" column. It also has been adjusted to Clinton +1. And it has a lower weight (lower down on the list). CO shows at 73% chance that Clinton wins this state. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 09:58:00 PM And besides, its ✞RUMP(卐-NY) vs. (((Hillary Clin✞on)))
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 02, 2016, 09:59:12 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: StatesPoll on November 02, 2016, 09:59:48 PM Red Avatars: undersampled Hispanic about -5%. only 9% Hispanics in the Poll? !!! blah blah blah http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/ 1. This poll oversampled college degree / undersampled HS/Some college horribly Univ of Denver: degree 59% | HS/Some college 40% 2012 CO exit Poll: degree 49% | HS/Some College 48% http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/CO/president/ can u see? oversampled degree +10%, undersampled HS/Some College -8%. :p 2. 'undersampled' Hispanics about 5% doesn't make that great difference as Red Avatar's delusion. YouGov Model 11/1 Colorado Hispanic: Hillary 61% | TRUMP 30% Other: Hillary 57% | TRUMP 31% 5% x (61-57)= 0.2% wow! massive change :p https://today.yougov.com/us-election/?state=Colorado 3. Conclusion with #UnskewthePoll TRUMP is winning in Colorado :D Hispanic: CLINTON 61% | donald 30% (61-30)%= 31% If CO is tied at this level and at 9% Hispanic at C+30, others must create T+2.7. 2.7*100/91 = 2.9. So, non-Hispanics would be at T+2.9. Then, unskewing for Hispanics would add (2.9+31)%*5% = 1.7% to the poll. Maybe not statistically significant, but certainly enough to turn off the Trump-fetishists a little, and if we're already unskewing, then I'm glad to get that far :P you don't understand. There is no problem of White Voter shares: 81% of total (even in 2012 it was 78%. plus White HS/Some college turnouts would be ↑) most amount of undersampled Hispanics in this poll, not by oversampling white voters. so your assumption is wrong. ;) Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fusionmunster on November 02, 2016, 10:01:26 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 10:02:46 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. or ϟϟPICY! ;) See what I did? Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: SirMuxALot on November 02, 2016, 10:03:38 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. And I see a lot of young people on this forum who have grown overconfident in 2-week/1-month plus prior to election day polling. Because of the last month stability of the polling in the last four elections, we've convinced ourselves that we can rely on mid-October polling to tell us what we need to. But there may be few here who remember a race like 1980. Which had a hugely dramatic and extremely late break toward Reagan. Even discarding Gallup's famous Carter +8 penultimate poll, the other (then regarded as amateur) pollsters were all showing an extremely tight, within the margin race. The actual outcome (Reagan winning by 10 points) was well out of the margin of error for nearly every public poll. Perhaps significant to this outcome was that 1980 had persistently high undecided / third party numbers for nearly the entire GE campaign. The late break of undecideds was sharp and shocking. It possible that if we had the prolific public polling then as we do now, it would have appeared much like we are seeing today; a series of wild, volatile perceived outliers pointing to utterly irreconcilable disagreement over the state of the race in the last week. If this forum existed in 1980, the Gallup one week move from Carter+8 to Regan+3 in their last 2 polls would have probably prompted quite a few dismissive "junk poll" retorts. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Fusionmunster on November 02, 2016, 10:03:59 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. or SSPICY! ;) See what I did? *clap* Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 10:05:32 PM Whether you believe the top numbers or not, the trend is unmistakable. Every state is moving away from Clinton. And I see a lot of young people on this forum who have grown overconfident in 2-week/1-month plus prior to election day polling. Because of the last month stability of the polling in the last four elections, we've convinced ourselves that we can rely on mid-October polling to tell us what we need to. But there may be few here who remember a race like 1980. Which had a hugely dramatic and extremely late break toward Reagan. Even discarding Gallup's famous Carter +8 penultimate poll, the other (then regarded as amateur) pollsters were all showing an extremely tight, within the margin race. The actual outcome (Reagan winning by 10 points) was well out of the margin of error for nearly every public poll. Perhaps significant to this outcome was that 1980 had persistently high undecided / third party numbers for nearly the entire GE campaign. The late break of undecideds was sharp and shocking. It possible that if we had the prolific public polling then as we do now, it would have appeared much like we are seeing today; a series of wild, volatile perceived outliers pointing to utterly irreconcilable disagreement over the state of the race in the last week. If this forum existed in 1980, the Gallup one week move from Carter+8 to Regan+3 in their last 2 polls would have probably prompted quite a few dismissive "junk poll" retorts. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2016, 10:06:04 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 10:07:35 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2016, 10:08:49 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD http://fsymbols.com/signs/ Please don't give him new ideas. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 02, 2016, 10:10:21 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Please don't give him new ideas. Your turn. Lest you want him to be using Happy ϟϟad to be using this (((☭ ))) on us. At any rate, we will either be waking up to KKKolorado or Cuckarado in 120ish hours. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: SirMuxALot on November 02, 2016, 10:21:22 PM Reagan was already ahead in most polls post-convention save for September. :) By 10 points? If you research, you'll find the answer is a big "no, not even close". Almost every single poll (even October polls!) had Carter and Reagan well within their margin of error. Read what Caddell (Carter) and Wirthin (Reagan) said about their internal polling also. They both had it as too close to call until after the last week debate. There was a late break for Reagan in 1980. Many polls did not capture that. Precious few did. And those that did, did not capture the magnitude of that break. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 02, 2016, 10:21:41 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Please don't give him new ideas. Your turn. Lest you want him to be using Happy ϟϟad to be using this (((☭ ))) on us. At any rate, we will either be waking up to KKKolorado or Cuckarado in 120ish hours. Lol, guys. You are sort of jacking off each other :D Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2016, 10:26:18 PM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Please don't give him new ideas. Your turn. Lest you want him to be using Happy ϟϟad to be using this (((☭ ))) on us. At any rate, we will either be waking up to KKKolorado or Cuckarado in 120ish hours. Lol, guys. You are sort of jacking off each other :D Better than trying to do work here and being interrupted by you doing it to yourself all day. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Mr. Smith on November 02, 2016, 10:27:20 PM Reagan was already ahead in most polls post-convention save for September. :) By 10 points? If you research, you'll find the answer is a big "no, not even close". Almost every single poll (even October polls!) had Carter and Reagan well within their margin of error. Read what Caddell (Carter) and Wirthin (Reagan) said about their internal polling also. They both had it as too close to call until after the last week debate. There was a late break for Reagan in 1980. Many polls did not capture that. Precious few did. And those that did, did not capture the magnitude of that break. That was a less polarized era, and given the way demographics are, such a thing would favor Clinton anyway since trump's insulted literally everyone. It would literally take Kentucky 2015 turnout for your theory to play out. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 02, 2016, 10:33:44 PM imagine the election would have been ....one week after the third debate as in reagan's case.
anyone thinking trump would have won that? Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: SirMuxALot on November 02, 2016, 10:38:22 PM imagine the election would have been ....one week after the third debate as in reagan's case. anyone thinking trump would have won that? But then that partisan hack Comey would have just moved up his hit job, amirite? Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: EpicHistory on November 02, 2016, 10:47:30 PM Only somewhat off from the recent spate of polls, which show Colorado as only +2 or +3 for Clinton. Given we've had more time for the FBI investigation to have impact, I can see this as a valid result.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Kempros on November 03, 2016, 12:42:07 AM Could be in the ballpark, but I do agree that 9% Latino poll is different then the actual 20.7%, but turnout is key.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: IceSpear on November 03, 2016, 01:00:55 AM LOL at the undecideds. Put it in the dumpster.
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Southern Delegate matthew27 on November 03, 2016, 01:02:43 AM imagine the election would have been ....one week after the third debate as in reagan's case. anyone thinking trump would have won that? Imagine if the election was one week after the pussygate tape! The tsunaumi would of been huge. Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 03, 2016, 07:38:39 AM Note that Red Hacks is selective in what polls they like. The CO poll that was released today, Clinton+10, they love and don't criticise at all. Likewise, the FL poll that was released yesterday by Democratic firm without a track history, Clinton+8. But they always hate A+ polls and call them outliers like these A+ polls from SUSA and ABC. It's a manipulated hypocrisy. Someones salty. Emotes...not...working.....................must......engage..........B-B-BOLD Please don't give him new ideas. Your turn. Lest you want him to be using Happy ϟϟad to be using this (((☭ ))) on us. At any rate, we will either be waking up to KKKolorado or Cuckarado in 120ish hours. Lol, guys. You are sort of jacking off each other :D Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 03, 2016, 07:43:09 AM OK. I have to revisit this poll after today's indication. I thought it was 3-5% points off, even though it is "A" pollster. But now I think it is just 0-3% points off :)
Title: Re: Colorado Poll- Tie (University of Denver, conducted October 29-31) Post by: Person Man on November 03, 2016, 08:00:44 AM OK. I have to revisit this poll after today's indication. I thought it was 3-5% points off, even though it is "A" pollster. But now I think it is just 0-3% points off :) "Indication" |