Talk Elections

Is this a thing? Discuss.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/02/fbis-clinton-foundation-investigation-now-very-high-priority-sources-say.html

There's no merit to it.

going on with manipulating the election.

So the Praetorian GuardFBI are actively trying to get Trump elected President?

Obama needs to fire every single agent and dissolve the FBI. They can tell each other how patriotic they were while they rot in the detention center the GOP wouldn't let him close. Not that he'll ever do it. I hope that, if Trump wins, he turns Obama's library into a prefab outhouse and locks his spineless, feckless predecessor inside. It's the least he deserves.

(The blame for all this isn't 100% on the GOP - from ignoring torture and spying to going easy on seditious militants to coordinating a crackdown on Occupy, to letting the NSA and FBI go rogue, he's helped bring this about.)

This is really serious that Trump might be able to control the press, the police, and the military like this. Whether its Hillary next week, the Democrats in 2018 or some other left-populists that arise to power in the distant, post-2020 future, they will have to reform our security apparatus so that we can end this shameless praetorianism.

the WSJ frames it as a battle between agents wanting to punch at shadows and prosecutors who dismissed it as simple hearsay.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/secret-recordings-fueled-fbi-feud-in-clinton-probe-1478135518

Clinton foundation is a mess & full of corruption. Everyone knows the DOJ is stopping this. But for me the sad part is a noble cause has been tainted with pay to play & many other stuff.

Everyone has seen Hillary has sold favors & time for Foundation donations, but no1 gives a sh**.

You see dumb comments like There's no merit as if they know the in's & out's of FBI & The Clinton Foundation. At the point the Clinton hacks are as bad as the Islamophobic Xenophobic Racist Trump supporters who are SERVILE in nature & are blind to any faults of Clinton.

many media sources and journalists themselves are atm pouring cold water on the fox story.

is to be taken with a ton of salt and also worded like that.....more like the position of one FBI faction, not aided by prosecutors.

I'll put as much weight in it as the leaks in Jan through July of this last year.

not comey in that case...some rogue agents.....playing wild and try to steer the election. illegal?

The Washington Post has already reported the FBI waited almost a month before informing Congress after first learning about the new emails, using that time to gather more information and become sure that moving forward was the right way to go. Given that, this claim is utterly debunked at this point and laughable.


It's honestly scary how you can think trashing the Rule of Law and removing any oversight because it's a political inconvenience for you is a good thing.

Of course he won't do it ... its unconstitutional. Congress makes laws, the President executes the laws. Federal law says the FBI will exist until federal law says otherwise. Federal law makes the FBI Director position for a term rather than at will. Federal law requires that already appropriated money must be spent on the FBI and its programs. Obama is not some petty tyrant who can dispense with the law whenever he feels like it just because Trump mean.

ofc obama shouls not and would not "fire" anyone.

otherwise i am pretty sure lot of agents have broken some laws during the last week with all thoae leaks and counter-leaka..probably illegal.

This will only help Donald Trump.

It really depends whether Hillary votes can be extracted because of this.

By itself, perhaps not, but when put in combination with the other FBI investigation, this could be very damaging.

Trump has momentum, but he needs to make up a lot of ground in difficult states like Colorado, Florida and Pennsylvania.

Good.

Little by little you create this narrative.
Little by little Clinton's trustworthiness erodes.
Little by little Reps come home.
Little by little Dems start to doubt.

Little. By little. Hope it will be enough on Nov 8.

It's terrible news for her. The Clinton foundation is really a sham that spends very little on real charity and mostly on paying its own employees.

everyone who follows the story knows by now that even the WSJ has torn apart fox's narrative.

if the point is, the FBI destroying itself somehow hurts clinton - be my guest.

i would love to see a daily tracker for the general trustworthiness of the FBI.

lmao

Yep. HuffPo did the same and CNN is ignoring it entirely. The headlines today is the Cubs game.

Even if it is true, you can't say, that there is no "similar" stories? One similar story here, one there. Each by itself are minor and almost as a noise, but togehter they create a narrative that leads to:


I can't pretend that it is coming from nowhere, but those minor articles [and bigger of course, as FBI "story"]

The stories now are FBI going off the rails, the Trump child rape case, the Trump tax dodging issues, and the GOP promising to stonewall the supreme court for eternity. Take your pick as to which is negative for Hillary.

You are also forgetting the e-mail thing fell off quickly, as evidenced in the MU-Law poll posted earlier today. If anything, it made people even less sensitive/more tired of the ridiculousness of it all.

Who thinks it will be Preet who will bring down Hillary?

OK thanks! I know it'd been bandied about but thought it always looked like a non-story. Then Baier and Hannity (lol) made it their top story tonight so just making sure I was right and didn't have to read anymore.

btw as most number guys stated....trump-hollywood didn't really scare away his voters (just went silent in polls)...and if you think the FBI stuff is worse....have fun.

Just you.

I would love to see her indicted but the partisan side of me wants it after she's won and hopefully within the first year to give Kaine time to get adjusted.

Yes, because HuffPo is definitely objective with regards to Liberals and their scandals.


You're probably right, I expect Comey to do what is right and lock her up before Preet gets his chance.

How is the FBI destroying itself?
You mean Chuck Schumer, Obama and Obama-appointee Lynch criticizing Comey is "destroying" the fbi?

Gladly point out where I said the FBI was destroying itself.

i said the fbi was destroying itself..or more likely its reputation...atm...cause of all the leaks, the bickering, the fraction-izing and the hardball playing lf agent vs agents, agents vs prosecutors, agents vs comey......and even the leak-arguing is leaked.

Sounds like a high school war, honestly.

fun fact btw...

fbi "bitch-fight" which resulted into this fox-WSJ-feud,  is based on "clinton cash".....which was written by peter schweizer, who heads a non-profit-org, founded (funded)...by...stephen bannon, CEO if breitbart and now campaign manager of donald trump.

this is better than any conspiracy...cause it's just the damned truth.

In couple of days Comey will announce Clinton indictment. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/02/report-indictment-likely-clinton-foundation-fbi-investigation/

Why don't we just install Hillary as Queen and revert back to a monarchy while we're at it?

What a horrific statement you just made. This is why I have such trouble pulling the level for Hillary (or Trump)  this election. She's no better than he is.

She has done nothing wrong, yet she is just as bad as a racist rapist who will most likely kill many people.  Yeah they are just the same.

Clinton, for all her many, many flaws  is also far, far more qualified to hold the office of President than Trump is. So is ANY member of Congress or state governor (yes, even Pence and others whose politics I dislike). The Republicans just refuse to admit how stupid and evil they were to nominate Trump.

That the FBI is now destroying itself and the legitimacy of our democracy is what's terrible, but stuff like this was inevitable once the GOP decided to nominate a servant of evil and chaos like Trump.

It is basically no difference from Trump's claim about the elections being rigged.

FBI are not a partisan hacks. Man, deal with it. Those who did all the way up to work in FBI, are often very patriotic kind of people. They wouldn't likely do a partisan s**t even if Republicans had a descent nominee.

The claim that they would do it for Donald f**king Trump is beyond the good and evil. LOL

It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/mutiny-underway-secret-recordings-fueled-fbi-investigation-clinton-foundation-despit

Anti-Trump-FBI-leaks strike again


https://twitter.com/CapehartJ/status/794292189450928128

Wow. These Anti-Hillary people in the FBI are crooked. Have fun sleeping with cops as crooked as these guys. Like having foxes watch the henhouse. LOL

 a reminder in case they think this reporter is some kind of liberal - Pete Williams worked for DICK CHENEY.

an honest question then, what favours has she sold for Foundation donations?

Can't help agreeing. Yeas, Clinton made mistakes, she is aware of them and is wise enough not to repeat them. Trump has never been in public service, he is sure to make lots of mistakes at the beginning of his term to spend the rest of his term correcting them. Pointless presidency he will make.