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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Election => Topic started by: ericpolitico on November 03, 2016, 08:59:26 PM



Title: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ericpolitico on November 03, 2016, 08:59:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MajorCBS/status/793954005743452161

https://mobile.twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/793764406798774272

Any thought folks?


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 03, 2016, 09:01:36 PM
No. Next.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 03, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: TC 25 on November 03, 2016, 09:01:48 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Lyin' Steve on November 03, 2016, 09:03:08 PM
It doesn't matter.  She'll die from her rare neurological disorder before election day.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Ebowed on November 03, 2016, 09:04:00 PM
Certainly not.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: win win on November 03, 2016, 09:04:13 PM
20% chance at each
(source: 538, predictit)


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 03, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
no@VA

there is a motivation gap with big MI-AA-turnout.....



Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2016, 09:14:26 PM
No.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 03, 2016, 09:15:09 PM
Even I had Hillary winning MI and VA but I suppose my prediction map is about to get even bluer.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Hammy on November 03, 2016, 09:16:30 PM
So an unspecified "internal" and a D+7 poll means Clinton is losing those states?

F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.

You seem like you want Trump to win at this point just to be proven right.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 03, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
So an unspecified "internal" and a D+7 poll means Clinton is losing those states?

F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.

You seem like you want Trump to win at this point just to be proven right.

For some reason completely conceding the race calms my frustration with it somewhat. Have no idea why.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Hammy on November 03, 2016, 09:20:56 PM
So an unspecified "internal" and a D+7 poll means Clinton is losing those states?

F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.

You seem like you want Trump to win at this point just to be proven right.

For some reason completely conceding the race calms my frustration with it somewhat. Have no idea why.

Emotional detachment, probably. But pessimistic as I am, I'm still not confident enough to really call it either way, because I have doubts about Florida and New Hampshire (not doubts Clinton will win, but doubts that I can easily determine either way who wins). But Michigan and most likely Virginia are safe, I wouldn't go based on internals that show favorable results for the party conducting them.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: dspNY on November 03, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
No


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Ljube on November 03, 2016, 09:34:15 PM


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 03, 2016, 09:36:23 PM

You guys are setting yourselves up for some major disappointment.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on November 03, 2016, 10:04:46 PM
It doesn't matter.  She'll die from her rare neurological disorder before election day.
I heard her spleen is full of pus and it's causing her not to be able to digest food and her liver's shot because of the inordinate amount of booze she drinks.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Maxwell on November 03, 2016, 10:07:18 PM
I will change my signature to a non-ironic picture of some kind of Trump banner if Trump wins either of Michigan or Virginia, because I think it's super unlikely in both cases.

btw, she currently leads in Michigan by more than Obama did in 2012,


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: BuckeyeNut on November 03, 2016, 10:08:33 PM
ROFL


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 03, 2016, 10:09:05 PM
Nope


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on November 03, 2016, 10:09:45 PM
F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.

Not sure if you're trolling.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ProudModerate2 on November 03, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Don't really know about Michigan, but no shot in hell Trump wins Virginia.

Agree.
Michigan is the "easier" possibility (though unlikely), but Virginia .... forget it.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: peterthlee on November 03, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
Those are pipe dreams. NO.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Rand on November 03, 2016, 10:31:32 PM
Depends on how many Blacks the red cap wearing Trump militia takes out before Election Day.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 03, 2016, 10:37:28 PM
So an unspecified "internal" and a D+7 poll means Clinton is losing those states?

F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Called it, standing by it.

You seem like you want Trump to win at this point just to be proven right.

Our dear bed-wetter (attention-seeker) is now trying to find avenues for Clinton to fail as the doors close. It's an interesting form of goal-post shifting.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 03, 2016, 10:39:24 PM
i think, besides question of midwest/NH-turnout, clinton is in the good by now.

and funny that WI seems to be safer right now than MI/PA. (could be a trick.....wish all states would have EV.)



Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 03, 2016, 10:44:16 PM
I'm still not entirely convinced the states are complete toss ups. Clinton has hit 50% in 2 recent MI polls. I thought VA was safe but apparently not. And it's others on this forum that have been predicting Gillespie redux, I've had VA red in even my most panicked predictions.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Meclazine for Israel on November 03, 2016, 10:46:40 PM
Hillary is in danger of losing the election if this email scandal shows any more "dodgy" behind-the-scenes behaviour.



Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on November 03, 2016, 11:12:40 PM
Nope!


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: The Vorlon on November 03, 2016, 11:39:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MajorCBS/status/793954005743452161

https://mobile.twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/793764406798774272

Any thought folks?

Both would be a substantial surprise.

Michigan is the more likely of the two.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Inmate Trump on November 04, 2016, 04:39:26 AM
It doesn't matter.  She'll die from her rare neurological disorder before election day.
I heard her spleen is full of pus and it's causing her not to be able to digest food and her liver's shot because of the inordinate amount of booze she drinks.

Many people are saying that.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Donnie on November 04, 2016, 04:55:18 AM
MI will be the shocker of the night. Just wait 4 days.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: libertpaulian on November 04, 2016, 06:31:25 AM
She'll win both in the end, but she'd have a greater danger of losing Michigan than she would Virginia this cycle.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on November 04, 2016, 06:39:35 AM
Not if current trends are any indication. Comeystag rolling off the calendar helps too


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: TDAS04 on November 04, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
Not very likely.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Kalimantan on November 04, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
Michigan maybe.

Looking at the polls with Clinton having a narrow lead nationwide, and yet enjoying substantial leads in NY, CA and VA, up in NC and FL, polling as expected in WI, MN, PA, CO and much closer than a Dem normally is in TX, GA, AZ - so where is Trump strong for the national polls to be close? Part of that is OH, part MO but he also has to be closer than a Republican normally is somewhere unexpected, and MI seems ripe for that.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 04, 2016, 07:12:49 AM
he is very strong in new england.....compared to his predecessors.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on November 04, 2016, 07:29:42 AM
Michigan maybe.

Looking at the polls with Clinton having a narrow lead nationwide, and yet enjoying substantial leads in NY, CA and VA, up in NC and FL, polling as expected in WI, MN, PA, CO and much closer than a Dem normally is in TX, GA, AZ - so where is Trump strong for the national polls to be close? Part of that is OH, part MO but he also has to be closer than a Republican normally is somewhere unexpected, and MI seems ripe for that.
NY.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: Beefalow and the Consumer on November 04, 2016, 08:20:12 AM
There is no data whatsoever to support a Trump victory in either of these.  Since September 1, Trump has not won a single poll in Michigan.  Not even one.  Out of 47.  And Trump has won three polls in Virginia.  Out of 50.  And two of those were Google junk polls.

If he wins either of these, it would be utterly shocking.  As shocking as Clinton winning Georgia, where Clinton has won exactly one poll since 9/1.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: alomas on November 04, 2016, 08:32:14 AM
Virginia no, Michigan maybe, we need more polls.


Title: Re: Is Hillary in danger of losing Michigan and Virginia?
Post by: elcorazon on November 04, 2016, 09:17:12 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MajorCBS/status/793954005743452161

https://mobile.twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/793764406798774272

Any thought folks?
only Michigan
She wins VA by about 8-10
Michigan is a nailbiter