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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:04:10 PM



Title: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/04/fox-news-poll-clinton-ahead-trump-by-two-points.html

4 way:
Clinton - 45
Trump - 43

2 way:
Clinton - 46
Trump - 45


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:04:50 PM
Time taken?


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: dspNY on November 04, 2016, 05:05:05 PM

Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 04, 2016, 05:05:17 PM
Link?


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 04, 2016, 05:05:19 PM

1st-3rd november.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:05:48 PM

Yep, she's fine :)


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 04, 2016, 05:06:09 PM
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Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Person Man on November 04, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
Shes doing two points better than Obama.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 04, 2016, 05:07:38 PM
one point better than i guessed.

day to day result would be interesting.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Holmes on November 04, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

This post is peak dfwlibertylover.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:08:43 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

This post is peak dfwlibertylover.
I've posted enough to start to become a brand name? :D


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Fusionmunster on November 04, 2016, 05:08:55 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 04, 2016, 05:09:07 PM


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.
so what you are saying is, even though this poll was taken Tuesday through Thursday, starting today it suddenly just dropped off the voters minds.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Wiz in Wis on November 04, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
A single point shift towards Trump is quite a relief.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Fusionmunster on November 04, 2016, 05:11:44 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.
so what you are saying is, even though this poll was taken Tuesday through Thursday, starting today it suddenly just dropped off the voters minds.

If we had a day to day breakdown of the poll, I'd bet her numbers recovered in between that three day period.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: BoAtlantis on November 04, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Good result for her. Her lead is probably 3-4.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Xing on November 04, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...

OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!

Better? :P


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...

OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!

Better? :P
No No I just want people to admit there is not going to be a Clinton landslide


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on November 04, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
no landslide.

just maybe a sunbelt-revolt.

#realignment


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Xing on November 04, 2016, 05:21:13 PM
I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...

OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!

Better? :P
No No I just want people to admit there is not going to be a Clinton landslide

Probably not, but I don't think we can completely rule out a larger than 2012 win for her.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Fusionmunster on November 04, 2016, 05:21:21 PM
I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...

OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!

Better? :P
No No I just want people to admit there is not going to be a Clinton landslide

We will find out very soon. No need to get people to admit anything.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: m4567 on November 04, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
I thought it was going to be a tie or Trump lead  Cool.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 04, 2016, 05:27:08 PM
Dems
Clinton 90%
Trump 4%
Johnson 2%
Stein 1%

GOP
Trump 85%
Clinton 5%
Johnson 4%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 41%
Clinton 33%
Johnson 11%
Stein 3%

men: Trump +11
women: Clinton +13
whites: Trump +19
non-whites: Clinton +53
white college degree: Trump +3
white no college degree: Trump +33
urban: Clinton +24
suburban: Clinton +4
rural: Trump +19
under age 35: Clinton +16
age 35-54: Trump +17
age 55+: Clinton +7
under $50k income: Clinton +22
over $50k income: Trump +8


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: mark_twain on November 04, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
Clinton is definitely doing better than this, for 3 reasons:

1) The poll was taken partly during the Comey "shock" period, which has since then dissipated.

2) Better numbers for early voting.

3) Better ground game for Election Day.


If Fox News is a reliable poll, then I predict a 5% lead in the popular vote for Clinton, after all votes are counted.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: EpicHistory on November 04, 2016, 05:31:41 PM
Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Fusionmunster on November 04, 2016, 05:32:44 PM
Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.

I will post this till the cows come home.

We will find out in 4 days.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: bilaps on November 04, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.

Absolutely. There is a panic in Brooklyn and it shows here as well. Peak Comeygate was weekend, this poll started tuesday.

I've said it before if the race is tighter than 3pts and it seems it is, nobody knows how EC map will look like. Polling error could go either way but if it goes Trump way, than they should embrace for Trump train on tuesday.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.
What is true?

Yeah. I thought it would be 4-7 Nov. Oh, wait


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:40:34 PM

The 3-5/6 will give us a final look at the electorate, but note that her ground game is off the charts with the EV and she baked in a week of at least +5, another week of at least +3, and there's election day.

Note that Obama won by 4 in 2012 with some national polls showing Romney ahead. No national polls show Romney ahead outside of trackers with heavy R house effect. She's going to win +3-5.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: psychprofessor on November 04, 2016, 05:42:51 PM
Note of caution - this isn't Fox's last national poll. Hmmm....


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 05:43:10 PM
The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:44:16 PM
The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 05:45:32 PM
The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: psychprofessor on November 04, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
Dems
Clinton 90%
Trump 4%
Johnson 2%
Stein 1%

GOP
Trump 85%
Clinton 5%
Johnson 4%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 41%
Clinton 33%
Johnson 11%
Stein 3%

men: Trump +11
women: Clinton +13
whites: Trump +19
non-whites: Clinton +53
white college degree: Trump +3
white no college degree: Trump +33
urban: Clinton +24
suburban: Clinton +4
rural: Trump +19
under age 35: Clinton +16
age 35-54: Trump +17
age 55+: Clinton +7
under $50k income: Clinton +22
over $50k income: Trump +8


Once again, non-whites are too low here for Clinton. She wins Latino's by 60 and Blacks probably by 80 - no way does the margin hover in the low 50's.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.

What world are you living in? In what important state does the EV look good for him?


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: alomas on November 04, 2016, 05:54:55 PM
Ohio, Iowa, maybe North Carolina and Florida.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2016, 05:58:38 PM
Ohio, Iowa, maybe North Carolina and Florida.

Ok, borderline, no and definitely not


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Ebsy on November 04, 2016, 06:20:23 PM
2012 redux.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 06:25:08 PM
The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.

What world are you living in? In what important state does the EV look good for him?
EV = elections votes. Obama could win EV losing PV (popular votes), Clinton won't.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 04, 2016, 06:44:13 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ on November 04, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

^^
Honestly the lies being posted here for self-reassurance are giving me second thoughts on all the other comments that I have taken at face value for the past week or two. She should still win easily, but if I was a Clinton fan, I'd finally just have a tiny ounce of fear. Very tiny. His chances have gone up from about 2% to 8-10%


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Buzz on November 04, 2016, 06:58:06 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.
this lol


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 07:02:51 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only :P), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: m4567 on November 04, 2016, 07:21:16 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

^^
Honestly the lies being posted here for self-reassurance are giving me second thoughts on all the other comments that I have taken at face value for the past week or two. She should still win easily, but if I was a Clinton fan, I'd finally just have a tiny ounce of fear. Very tiny. His chances have gone up from about 2% to 8-10%

I look at state polls and Obama's very slim average national lead going into election day 4 years ago.


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Hammy on November 04, 2016, 07:50:26 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only :P), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.

How do you see Trump winning the EV?


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 08:10:23 PM
Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only :P), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.

How do you see Trump winning the EV?
I stick to 538 and don't pay that much attention to early voting, which is not that predictive. If it was, why would Clinton camp or CNN/FOX/[write in] spent so much money on polls, amIrite?


Title: Re: Fox News - Clinton + 2 /Clinton + 1
Post by: ProudModerate2 on November 04, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...
OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!
Better? :P

No No I just want people to admit there is not going to be a Clinton landslide

Probably not, but I don't think we can completely rule out a larger than 2012 win for her.

At this point, as long as Clinton wins and Hitler Jr is given the boot, and the Dems have a majority in the Senate, I will be happy.