Talk Elections

Are Irish Americans in New York City fiscally and socially conservative, or are they fiscally conservative on some issues, and socially conservative on some issues?

I really don't think New York Irish-Americans in 2016 are any kind of a unified bloc politically and many aren't even native New Yorkers.

Yeah, the Irish are pretty assimilated these days.

I've always wondered when did anti-Irish prejudice in America end? 

When the tensions between mainline Protestants and Catholics ended, as the Civil Rights revolution heated up. These days, the two groups from a religious standpoint on anything that matters are not very different at all (putting aside the abortion issue).

I think that both groups are more divided politically then religiously with liberal Protestants and Catholics having more in common then either do with there more conservative brethren. Though on issues like abortion and birth control there's admittedly more cognitive dissonance for left-leaning Catholics since they actually are in the same church as the right-wing opus dei types whereas UCC Christians don't have to share the pews with evangelicals.

lol no

Can we stop making this type of threads.

Are there any Irish neighborhoods in NYC anymore?  There are probably as many assimilated people with some Irish ancestry in Manhattan/Brownstone Brooklyn as there are Irish New Yorkers in working class outer borough neighborhoods now.

Yes. Woodlawn. Bay Ridge. Whitestone. Bayside. Glendale. Middle Village. South Shore, Staten Island.

Many of those neighborhoods are more Italian than Irish.  Woodlawn I know has an Irish immigrant presence.

Woodlawn is about as Irish as you can get.

Bayside as well. Travel around Bayside, it's Trump country.

Not because it's Irish though. Woodland is as democratic as you can get, and the republican there are probably Italians.

What? No. Woodlawn Heights (the Irish area of Woodlawn) is very Republican, the most Republican neighborhood in the Bronx (doesn't sound like it's saying much, but there are a few pockets of Republicanism even there), and has been for quite some time. On the other hand, most recent Irish immigrants there are not citizens and not eligible to vote, so you're talking more longer-term residents. The Italian presence in Woodlawn is minimal.

Agreed that Bayside is irrelevant to the discussion. It's not an Irish neighborhood. Woodlawn Heights is the only neighborhood in NYC that can validly be described as "Irish".

Some are, some aren't. They're so assimilated they aren't a monolithic voting block.

Even in hyper-ethnic NYC only 35% of those reporting Irish ancestry are solely of Irish ancestry (the comparative figure for Italians is 62%). 

What brand of Republicanism? Irish(AOH) or American(GOP)?

A mix of both. But Bayside and Douglaston is Irish. The LIRR Douglaston station, has a lot of beautiful Irish pubs. It's definitely Trump country in some areas. De Blasio won some areas there against Republican Joe Lhota in 2013.

When they stopped immigrating here in large numbers. Immigration to the US in general was severely restricted after 1925. By the 1930s, it has morphed into a generic, less overt anti-Catholic prejudice, which in turn stopped being a significant factor in American society after the 1960s.

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-president-vice-president-every-neighborhood-map-election-results-voting-general-primary-nyc

Interesting that Woodlawn Heights was mostly Clinton! It was definitely a Romney/McCain type of area but maybe the more international bent due to lots of Irish immigrants made it anti-Trump.

The Irish have a special fondness for the Clintons because of the Good Friday Agreement (and I know this for a fact since I have family there), which stopped The Troubles in the north of Ireland. It might be a little bit of an explanation for the MA swing for Clinton as the heavily Irish areas (Plymouth, Norfolk) swung D while western MA (lots of Irish but not as many, also the population is much lower) and Bristol (lots of Portuguese) swung R. Irish people in Ireland don't really care about our politics too much, though obviously the immigrants that live here care about it more. Irish immigrants voting for Clinton is hardly unanimous, since plenty of my family in Ireland love Trump (which I may be partially responsible for with all my political talk... :P).

Irish is probably the most common ancestry among fourth generation+ New Yorkers, which is obviously a small group citywide.