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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Past Election What-ifs (US) => Topic started by: Lincoln Republican on July 27, 2005, 11:53:41 PM



Title: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Lincoln Republican on July 27, 2005, 11:53:41 PM
In 2000, John McCain defeats George W Bush to win the Republican Presidential nomination.  McCain is successful in persuading General Colin Powell to accept "a call to duty," and Powell agrees to become the Republican Vice Presidential candidate.  George W Bush gives the GOP ticket his wholehearted support and endorsement.  Powell delivers a solid "Responsibility and Compassion" speech, and McCain delivers a stirring and impassioned "History Calls" acceptance speech at the Republican National convention.  The Republican Party puts behind them the divisiveness of the primary season and closes ranks behind McCain and Powell, in preparation for the greater battles that lie ahead, the 2000 election campaign.

The other tickets are as in the actual 2000 election, so the candidates are as follows

Republican
Sen John McCain (AZ)          Pres
Gen Colin Powell (NY)          VP

Democrat
VP Al Gore (TN)                    Pres
Sen Joe Lieberman (CT)       VP

Green
Ralph Nader                         Pres
Winona LaDuke                    VP

Reform
Patrick Buchanan                  Pres
Ezola Foster                          VP

Libertarian
Harry Browne                        Pres
Art Oliver                               VP

How would this election have turned out?
What would a map look like?


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: ○∙◄☻„tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on July 27, 2005, 11:55:18 PM
While Gore beat Bush, he would have lost to McCain/Powell.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Max Power on July 28, 2005, 12:21:21 AM
I would have voted for McCain for this reason:
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McCain wins in landslide.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Ebowed on July 28, 2005, 12:46:28 AM
Healthy margin of victory for McCain-- about 53 to 46.  I'd have supported McCain, though I wouldn't have been pleased with the VP pick, Powell, as he is pro choice and pro affirmative action.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: WalterMitty on July 28, 2005, 12:24:30 PM
landslide for mccain/powell

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Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Lincoln Republican on July 28, 2005, 05:35:21 PM
I would have voted for McCain for this reason:
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McCain wins in landslide.

Thank you Casey.
Who is that in the picture, (with Gore?), and why would that cause you to vote for McCain, if you don't mind my asking?


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Lincoln Republican on July 28, 2005, 05:44:44 PM

Thank you Walter, and thank you for your map. 

I agree the McCain/Powell ticket would have won a resounding victory.

But don't you think you are being a tad harsh on the Gore/Lieberman ticket?     


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: WalterMitty on July 28, 2005, 07:23:18 PM

Thank you Walter, and thank you for your map. 

I agree the McCain/Powell ticket would have won a resounding victory.

But don't you think you are being a tad harsh on the Gore/Lieberman ticket?     

i think the map is pretty realistic.

at best, gore *might* peel off california and connecticut.  it would be a landslide regardless.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: Max Power on July 28, 2005, 09:48:07 PM
I would have voted for McCain for this reason:
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McCain wins in landslide.

Thank you Casey.
Who is that in the picture, (with Gore?), and why would that cause you to vote for McCain, if you don't mind my asking?
It's Fred Phelps. The crazy Westboro, Kansas preacher who hates gays. He held a fundraiser for Gore.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: George W. Hobbes on July 29, 2005, 05:06:35 PM
Buchanan does a lot better, at one point he was polling 8 percent (in '99 or so), with a pro-choice VP, he could probably challenge Nader in terms of getting 2-3 percent.


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: kashifsakhan on August 16, 2005, 01:51:22 PM
i say it would have been close, not as close as 2000 actually was, or even 2004, but i think McCain would have gotten 300+ electoral college votes


Title: Re: 2000 McCain/Gore/Nader
Post by: A18 on August 16, 2005, 01:54:49 PM
McCain would have picked Bush as his VP to keep the conservatives from voting Buchanan.