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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Alternative Elections => Topic started by: DPKdebator on May 22, 2017, 03:30:10 PM



Title: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: DPKdebator on May 22, 2017, 03:30:10 PM
What would a hypothetical presidential election between conservative Democrat Joe Manchin and moderate Republican Charlie Baker look like?

If Baker won, it would probably be this:
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364 - 174

If Manchin won, it would probably be this:
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364 - 174


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Kingpoleon on May 22, 2017, 03:47:35 PM
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272: Charlie Baker/Condoleeza Rice - 45.2%
266: Joe Manchin/John Bel Edwards - 44.6%
Katrina Pierson/Austin Petersen - 4.5%
David Cobb/Thom Hartmann - 4.3%
Others - 1.2%


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: SingingAnalyst on May 23, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
Interesting, and of course utterly unthinkable in today's political economy. Perhaps a more interesting question is, what ONE thing could be changed since, say, 1920, to bring about a world in 2016 or 2020 where these would be viable candidates? Coolidge/Hoover do more for civil rights? Eisenhower spares the lives of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Stevenson wins in 1952 and the Rosenbergs are executed anyway? Mainstream GOP embraces Roe v. Wade? Teddy Kennedy remains pro-life, as he was until 1972? Ditto for the Rev. Jesse Jackson? The possibilities are endless.


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Kingpoleon on May 23, 2017, 12:39:56 PM
Interesting, and of course utterly unthinkable in today's political economy. Perhaps a more interesting question is, what ONE thing could be changed since, say, 1920, to bring about a world in 2016 or 2020 where these would be viable candidates? Coolidge/Hoover do more for civil rights? Eisenhower spares the lives of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Stevenson wins in 1952 and the Rosenbergs are executed anyway? Mainstream GOP embraces Roe v. Wade? Teddy Kennedy remains pro-life, as he was until 1972? Ditto for the Rev. Jesse Jackson? The possibilities are endless.
I suggest the most likely is Ford/Brooke defeats McCarthy/Symington. In 1980, Gov. Sam Yorty/Sen. Howell Heflin defeats VP Brooke/Speaker Millicent Fenwick. From there, the reversal of OTL accelerates as Democrats become right-populists and Republicans become left-libertarians.


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Lord Admirale on May 29, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
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Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on May 29, 2017, 09:22:05 PM
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Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Governor Steve Bullock (D-MT) - 325 EV ✓
Governor Charlie Baker (R-MA)/Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 213 EV
 


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Senator Spark on October 20, 2018, 08:57:05 PM
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Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Politician on October 21, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
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Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: bagelman on October 21, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
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516-22 Baker


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Figueira on October 24, 2018, 07:49:53 PM
Baker wins, maybe he does slightly better than average in New England but other than that it's a pretty boring election.


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: MR DARK BRANDON on December 24, 2018, 04:23:33 PM


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Medal506 on January 20, 2019, 10:54:53 PM
Baker makes John Kasich look like Ted Cruz, that's how much of a fake Republican Baker is!

Manchin wins the popular vote with over 60%

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Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: aaroncd107 on January 20, 2019, 11:33:26 PM
Baker Manchin makes John Kasich Joe Biden look like Ted Cruz Bernie Sanders, that's how much of a fake Republican Democrat Baker Manchin is!


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 20, 2019, 11:45:38 PM
Baker would win, ironically I think both would lose their home states though.


Title: Re: Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)
Post by: darklordoftech on January 20, 2019, 11:47:37 PM
Is this using Atlas colors or non-Atlas colors?