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General Politics => Economics => Topic started by: Frodo on July 23, 2017, 08:41:36 PM



Title: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Frodo on July 23, 2017, 08:41:36 PM
Note how Virginia is excluded from this map...

Population Growth and Affordable Cost of Living Accelerate CRE Renaissance in the Southeast: (http://www.nreionline.com/investment/population-growth-and-affordable-cost-living-accelerate-cre-renaissance-southeast)

Moody’s predicts that the demographic shift will intensify over the next few years, with the Southeast realizing the greatest population gains in the nation, notes Wagner.

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Patricia Kirk | Jun 13, 2017

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With rapid growth across markets in the Southeast, the region has emerged as a diverse, economic powerhouse, resulting in strong commercial real estate fundamentals for all property types. The Southeast’s rosy story is the result of a shift in both population and business growth from the Rust Belt to these Southeastern markets and a reflection of the region’s desirability.

Collectively, the six states comprising the region—Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee—would form the sixth largest country in the world from a GDP standpoint, according to the Urban Land Institute (ULI). Over the last three to four years the Southeast has also experienced the greatest population growth in the United States. The Atlanta population increased by 1.6 percent, Miami’s by 1.5 percent and the population of Raleigh, N.C. by 2.5 percent, compared to 0.5 percent population growth in Los Angeles and Boston during the same period, 0.25 percent in New York City and Philadelphia and a population decline in Chicago, notes Dan Wagner, Atlanta-based regional research manager with commercial real estate services firm CBRE. Wagner authored a series of recent reports on the Southeast’s real estate markets.

Population migration south began 50 years ago. Gartner Lee, president of GCP, an Alabama-based industrial investor, pinpoints the beginning of the trend, saying, “People started moving here for the warm weather when we got air conditioning.” Ratings firm Moody’s predicts that the demographic shift will intensify over the next few years, with the Southeast realizing the greatest population gains in the nation.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Tintrlvr on July 23, 2017, 11:11:03 PM
Also apparently Mississippi is not in the South ???

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Collectively, the six states comprising the region—Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee—would form the sixth largest country in the world from a GDP standpoint,


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Unapologetic Chinaperson on August 12, 2017, 03:25:05 PM
Real Life Lore made this video about a modern independent Confederacy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFFAGYmXKzw)

Some highlights:
- The modern CSA would have 11 times more people than the CSA in 1861.
- The least populated states then, Texas and Florida, would be the most populous states today. 6 out of 10 of the most populous cities would be in Texas alone.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on August 12, 2017, 11:49:24 PM
climate change will put a stop to this nonsense 


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Blue3 on August 13, 2017, 01:27:09 AM
So would California, just by itself, I think.

Consider how much of it is from federal investment, such as NASA.

Also, if more people move in, the South will become more blue (Atlas-red).


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on November 08, 2017, 10:02:33 PM
climate change will put a stop to this nonsense 


LOL!


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Karpatsky on December 01, 2017, 12:11:00 PM
Correction: the states which comprise the American South, evaluated separately, rank 6th on a list of countries. An independent American south would be a banana republic.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Maverick J-Mac on December 01, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
It's pretty interesting.  You know we're set up like Rome.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: DIXIECRAT on December 07, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Correction: the states which comprise the American South, evaluated separately, rank 6th on a list of countries. An independent American south would be a banana republic.

Well, Italy didn't reach Antebellum South's per capita GDP (including slaves) until the eve of WW2... Even for the first sixty or so years after Civil War, Southern wages might have been second only to Northern ones.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Shameless Lefty Hack on December 09, 2017, 08:35:00 AM
climate change will put a stop to this nonsense  

^This, but with worry and regret instead of vindictiveness. It's gonna suck to see the sunbelt boom go bust.

I hope that the economic boom in the south gives the rural poor the resources to leave by the time, say, flooding in the Mississippi valley becomes really problematic.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Kingpoleon on December 23, 2017, 04:04:36 PM
I just checked. It would be 5.286 trillion dollars, according to Wikipedia, making it bigger than every country besides America, China, and the European Union. This is not including Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Maryland.


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on December 23, 2017, 04:15:33 PM
I just checked. It would be 5.286 trillion dollars, according to Wikipedia, making it bigger than every country besides America, China, and the European Union. This is not including Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Maryland.
If you count those in?


Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: Kingpoleon on December 23, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
I just checked. It would be 5.286 trillion dollars, according to Wikipedia, making it bigger than every country besides America, China, and the European Union. This is not including Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Maryland.
If you count those in?

It wouldn’t change the ranking.



Title: Re: An Independent American South Would be World's 6th Largest Country
Post by: muon2 on January 20, 2018, 11:44:48 AM
Also apparently Mississippi is not in the South ???

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Collectively, the six states comprising the region—Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee—would form the sixth largest country in the world from a GDP standpoint,

That's because the article is about the Southeast, not the Confederate South. The thread subject is a bit misleading, but so is the map given in the article. I suspect the artist charged with providing the graphics didn't carefully read the article.