Talk Elections

49% Kid Rock (R)
46% Debbie Stabenow (D, inc.)

To be precise, it's 48.6% to 46.1%.

GOP primary

50% Kid Rock
9% Lena Epstein
7% John James
6% Bob Young

https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/890938278995558400

THE GOLD STANDARD OF POLLING HAS SPOKEN.

Seriously, how hilarious would be that Michigan elects a guy named 'Kid Rock' as its senator?

Dominating!

Idiocracy was a documentary

Regardless of how they did last year, this is a troll poll.

Lolno. Rock probably will win the primaries (thank you deplorables!), but Spenditnow will crush him in the general election (something like 56%-41%).

That's what most people said last year too.

I have spoken with God, and he has abandoned us.

I know they were accurate last year but I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in a polling firm who goes on Fox News to talk about how Trump's approval ratings are better than every pollster is showing.

But seriously, If this convinces Kid Rock to run then all the better for Stabenow.

Trafalgar had Trump at 306 electoral votes. They also had Karen Handel beating Ossoff!

God, the GOP could actually realistically get 59 seats. Almost makes one think they should just sit out the rest of this legislative session and wait for the ship to come in.

Kid Rock as a Republican could probably retain the vast majority of Obama-Trump voters in Michigan.

Hmm....

They may have a lean, but they are a legit polling company

So they are polling 'Kid Rock', but in all seriousness would his name be 'Robert Ritchie' on the ballot? Would that make a substantial difference?

I honestly think it would lol

Anyway MI-Sen is not Safe D this just validates what I've been saying for a while now. Smart money still on Stabenaw of course but there's no reason to think she is in a better position Jon Tester as of now, given she has a clear opponent who polls well against her and has plenty of self-funding capability.

Serious question though: is it actually certain he is even running?

I think it has more to do with name recognition than anything else. When Joe Piscopo was thinking of running for Governor of NJ, I knew quite a few people who said they'd vote for him even though they didnt know what party he belonged to or his political leanings. Stabenow seems abit anonymous, wouldn't surprise me if her name recognition wasnt all that great for being a two term senator.

She's a three term Senator

Anyway, the GOP deserves to run grifters like Kid Rock instead of impressive veteran candidates like John James at this point

I cant count:

2000, 2006, 2012 = 3 terms

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Kid is ahead just because of his name ID. I'd hope Stabenow takes him seriously though if he does get the nomination.

I know trafalgar leans but this close to 50% with so little undecided voters is pretty amazing, even in a GOP-lean poll

If you all want to believe a true Republican pollster, go right ahead. I don't care what they supposedly got right, this poll is narrative setting crap.

Debbie Stabenow will put this trash in the can where it belongs and yes, I said trash. He makes Trump look like the Pope.

Michigan is one of those impossible to poll accurately states, and we're over a year away from midterms. What are you people talking about? Yeesh

I'd think that there would be much more undecideds for not knowing who Stabenow is.

Nelson and Manchin are the only Trump state democrats to lead a poll yet we are supposed to believe 2018 is a democratic wave.

Democrats could always ditch Spenditnow for Eminem on the ballot I can see it now

[ ] Kid Rock (Republican)
[ ] Eminem (Democrat)
[ ] Clarence who Lives with his Parents (Independent)

Here come the trolls.

I honestly doubt he runs. I don't think the job appeals to him at all. Pretty conflicted about this poll though. In my mind it just seems ridiculous that Kid Rock is edging a 3 term Democratic senators in a Trump midterm, but, who knows..

I am very excited by the prospect of having Kid Rock, Roy Moore, and - if we are very lucky - Curt Schilling in the Senate two years from now. The Republican Party is finally becoming a force for good in this country for the first time in well over a century. Mr. Rock is likely the only one who will have the people's support behind him in this state to make it competitive. I won't endorse just yet, but he is making quite the intriguing case.

Don't worry: if he runs, all SpendItNow has to do is make the (accurate) case that Ritchie Rich was/is a spoiled upper-class brat who plays trailer trash on TV...something Hillary Clinton sadly forgot to do last year.

I remember last year when you said it was mathematically impossible for Trump to win

It was looking rough in Michigan in 2014, IIRC. It appeared that nothing happened.

It's more than a year out (there have been, what, 5 polls so far?), and on Election Day the orange asshole's approval rating will be even lower than it is now.

Not sure what Michigan's rule is, but some states would allow him to be: Robert "Kid Rock" Ritchie.

This great pollster had Trump winning Michigan!

Link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKxf9pMitN1JxcDRvQkdudkE/view)

The dominate narrative actually seems to be that because of Trump's win, Democrats won't ever, EVER win an election again. Ever.

Keep falling for the same crap over and over. Voters who keep electing incompetent buffoons to office that have no idea how to help the country but make you feel good about it will end up destroying the US.

People disapprove of Trump because of personality, not because of issues.

The swing voter hates the democrats overreach on immigration and the Pelosi-Schumer (previously Reid) duo.

And these Senators are incumbents yet they are polling at 42-46% and losing to most challengers, McCaskil is only ahead of her weakest and most unlikely opponent.

Nah, they are fawning over low turnout special elections and their swings.

But when push comes to shove, the GOP base will come out in full force to defend their president, nationalize the race and the GOP wins, just like in GA-6, just like in Virginia, where Northam only talks about Trump and that made him lose his lead, and we know this is going to be his strategy, so governor Gillespie is already a reality.

Yeah I'm skeptical of this to say the least, but 2016 has taught me not to dismiss any real polls out of hand. While this is a Republican pollster, it is still a real pollster, and should be taken into consideration.

I would not concede this race if I were a Democrat. I know I am in the minority though.

How does this thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwXVOifomo) stand a chance in hell?  No one wants to admit it, but Robert Byrd was right: white n******.

God I hate American culture.

Well that came out of nowhere

Watch the video and tell me what else you would honestly call that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO6ai0Ktro

Byrd was right.

I just don't see how Michigan boots out an incumbent with Trump sitting at a 61% disapproval rating in the state.

You call narrowly winning a district which Mitt Romney won by 23% coming out in full force? Look at the generic congressional polls. The Republicans probably will narrowly keep their majority because of gerrymandering, but they'll be slaughtered in the PV. Just look at the generic congressional race polls (they probably aren't terribly accurate but when you're trailing by 8 on average you're doing something wrong).

Anyway, I probably should endorse Spenditnow for defeating Pieter "Pete" Hoekstra in 2012 so that Trump could put him where he belongs: ambassador to the wonderful country of the Netherlands ;). Er gaat niks boven Groningen (I actually hate that place though)

"Trump won" is easily becoming a lame excuse to claim that any random person who runs for office can win now. This race will be after nearly two years of Trump and post disastrous healthcare repeal attempt, which equals in an entire different ball game.

When are people going to learn not to put stock in polling this early? If Rock is still ahead a year from now, then people can start to panic (or celebrate). Just ask Senators Heck, Strickland, Feingold, Grimes, and Land how accurate early polls are.

I get that, but as we saw quite often last year, it's foolish to take any race for granted. I don't think that's what you're saying, but there is quite a bit of premature celebration of Stabenow's victory in this thread.

I'm backing John James

When races get close, the GOP comes out and crushes the hopes of the democrats.

And democrats always underperform the generic ballot, pattern has also been undecideds breaking for the GOP, they see both parties as bad, so the democrats come with the message that they should vote for them because they are not the evil fascist GOP, the undecideds then proceed to choose the GOP.

Democrats aren't winning anything at Michigan when blacks don't care about the party without Obama, and they are the ones they need to win, if it's white vs white, GOP wins them 3-2 nationally and does well because low black turnout = whiter midterm.

Funny, I don't recall supporting John McCain's re-election

Does nobody remember Gary Peters? He got the most votes in 2014.

You said Peters. but seriously. He started down by like 3-5 as a member of the incumbent party and won by double digits.

I was just talking about you using the actual word.

Crap state/crap country.

All you SJW's feel free to call me a concern troll, but I'm concerned.

I will never be surprised by anything anymore - of course Kid Rock is going to be the GOPs only gain in 2018.

Seems like the GOP is best served by ousting all of their professional politicians and nominating only wacky washed up celebrities, conservacelebrities, or pseudo celebrities.

I mean Kid Rock, a perennial hick hack who has never had an original thought in his life, makes more sense as a GOP Senator today than, say, Bill Schuette or whatever weird nice guy conservative who was planning to run for this seat.

Things like Calexit are going to be looking a lot more appealing to liberals in a couple years.

LOL. Trash poll.

The year is 2019; Trump is president and Kid Rock and Roy Moore are Senators.

Great year! Can't wait for governor Kobach.

You're free to leave whenever you'd like.

Kanye West, The Rock, and Meryl Streep are all running for POTUS...

Love it or leave it.

Remonaers in the UK e crybaby libs in America can be the first to go

::)

I'm just gonna leave this here. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/1726/presidential-ratings-issues-approval.aspx)

I'm sorry dude, I am kind of stupid, so I did not understand what you just said. Could you please explain what your is saying? Thank you in advance.

Brexit means Brexit and Trump is going to be your president until 2025.

Job growth has been strong under him, so he will have a great economic record to show. His numbers are also better than Obama's.

Illegals don't want to enter America anymore so the massive drop will be another positive for Trump compared to the incentives gave by open border democrats.

Trump stil does well on terrorism and lots of people care about it.

Other issues like healthcare, Russia, media, the environment, all skew democrat, healthcare is the only one swing voters care and they know Obamacare is a mess.

Economy, immigration and terrorism, on the other hand, bread and butter for the swing voter and they all agree with Trump on it. They aren't giving the keys of Congress to Schumer and especially, Pelosi.

And then your Trump from 2025 until another person becomes your Trump.

Thanks again.