Talk Elections

If Steve Bannon can have a thread...

I wouldn't rule out voting for Tillerson. He's a sober and rational man, at least -- no longer a prerequesite, but it should count for something!

I'd prefer Tillerson to Trump or Pence. Easily.

His government experience is limited to 1/2 year as SoS. As of business experience... I thought people learned by now business experience is an empty term when considering public office.

This is fair, but there's a clear difference between Donald Trump's "business experience" and that of someone like Tillerson or even Romney.

I don't think he has a base from which to run that wouldn't be satisfied by someone like Rubio or Kasich.

He's done an awful job as Secretary of State. The department has the lowest recruiting numbers it's had in decades, dozens of positions are vacant, and a bunch of countries are missing their ambassadors (which is mostly Trump's fault, but Tillerson should be more forceful on the issue if he really means to do his job). He shouldn't run
The only experience people can point to for him is business experience, but Trump has shown us that more business experience somehow only manages to make you a worse President

Absolutely.

I see Tillerson as more of a power behind the throne.  Very much a kingmaker.  If Trump is, somehow, persuaded to resign (which I don't think will happen), Tillerson is the Al Haig of the transition, and will emerge as Pence's indispensable man. 

Tillerson is the best man in the administration right now.

An Al Haig analogy might be effective for a Chief of Staff; his time at State, however, isn't looked back on as particularly good or effective.

Al Haig ran the entire government during the latter days of Nixon.  His real role went far, far beyond his title.

Not only that, but Tillerson seems to be building up allies with Mattis, Kushner, Sessions, and the like, although he and Kushner have had tensions.

Tillerson is a weak secretary of state and I doubt he's even still in his job at the end of Trump's term.

The former CEO of Exxon-Mobil is never "weak".

Tillerson has been a complete disaster as SoS. If he can't run one department, how can he possibly make the argument of running the whole ship?

Nobody associated with the Trump administration will emerge with a clean enough slate for a presidential run. Nikki Haley is the only one who will probably survive this mess.

I'd never vote for a former oil CEO.

Have you not seen how absolutely awful he's been as SOS?

I'm simply saying that referring to the current Secretary of State as an "Al Haig" doesn't have the best of optics. :P