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Title: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Brittain33 on October 18, 2017, 11:05:59 AM
Northam 53 (+2)
Gillespie 39 (-2)
Hyra 2


https://poll.qu.edu/virginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=2493



Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Gass3268 on October 18, 2017, 11:09:42 AM
At least we know they are not hearding.

Thank God for averages!


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: swf541 on October 18, 2017, 11:09:47 AM
So Va is going to be interesting on a election night inst it?


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Yank2133 on October 18, 2017, 11:12:46 AM
Northam is likely up 5-6 points.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 18, 2017, 11:13:29 AM
Likely R → Safe D

#Atlas


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: BudgieForce on October 18, 2017, 11:23:29 AM
Someone's gonna look stupid in 2 or so weeks. Question is, is it Monmouth or Quinnipiac. My money's on Monmouth.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Gass3268 on October 18, 2017, 11:26:11 AM
Someone's gonna look stupid in 2 or so weeks. Question is, is it Monmouth or Quinnipiac. My money's on Monmouth.

Monmouth and Quinnipiac actually play each other in basketball in December. Decide it on the court!


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: DrScholl on October 18, 2017, 11:27:11 AM
Of course, this poll is going to be labeled fake because it doesn't fit the Republican narrative.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Person Man on October 18, 2017, 11:29:43 AM
Great Poll!


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Keep cool-idge on October 18, 2017, 11:30:33 AM
Lol this is an outliner northam in his internal polls is up but in the margin of error.
No republican or Democrat is winning Virginia by 14 points this election it’s going to be 3 points max for both Gillespie and northam.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: The Other Castro on October 18, 2017, 11:36:13 AM
N+14 isn’t going to happen, but G+1 likely won’t either. Just throw it all in the average.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Oryxslayer on October 18, 2017, 11:36:45 AM
So...where exactly is the race now? Some polls say Northam has gained. Some polls say that he is still where he was in August, with little change. And some polls see Gillespie gaining ground. Well, at least theres no chance of hearding...


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Keep cool-idge on October 18, 2017, 11:42:20 AM
Lol this is an outliner northam in his internal polls is up but in the margin of error.
No republican or Democrat is winning Virginia by 14 points this election it’s going to be 3 points max for both Gillespie and northam.

I thought you said Gillespie would win by exactly 48.73-48.31 or something
48.72 to 48.31 but what I meant by that is it’s at most a 3 point race even that is being to nice to both sides.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: _ on October 18, 2017, 11:48:37 AM
Quinnipiac continues it's trend in VA as the outlier.  Average is about Northam +2-4 or around there.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: KingSweden on October 18, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
Someone's gonna look stupid in 2 or so weeks. Question is, is it Monmouth or Quinnipiac. My money's on Monmouth.


Both.

The only safe prediction


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: The Other Castro on October 18, 2017, 01:14:20 PM
Quinnipiac continues it's trend in VA as the outlier.  Average is about Northam +2-4 or around there.

Well now it’s around Northam +5/6


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on October 18, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
The difference between these polls is mostly what sample ends up being used. This was a D+10 sample. The R+1 sample the other day was R+2 sample.

The consistency between these polls is Northam being up among independents. He was down among independents a few months ago.

VA 2013 was D+5
VA 2014 was D+0
VA 2016 was D+7

I'm not sure what the turnout will be in 2016, but I'd imagine it'd be at least D+3 in a Trump off-year. And if Gillepsie is losing independents, that is a bad sign.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 18, 2017, 01:21:21 PM
While there's no scenario where Northam wins by 14 points, the trends in this poll are useful. Their last poll showed Northam +10, and this represents a gain from that, casting doubt on Monmouth's finding that things are getting better than Gillespie. Also this can't be good for Gillespie:

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Virginia likely voters disagree 61 - 23 percent with Trump's tweet that Northam is fighting for MS-13 gangs and for sanctuary cities.

Also this:

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Virginia likely voters give Northam a 51 - 30 percent favorability rating.

Gillespie gets a negative 39 - 45 percent favorability rating.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: krazen1211 on October 18, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
I do not believe that Quinnipiac is a reliable pollster. In the 2016 election, it reported that IA was tied.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: IceSpear on October 18, 2017, 03:40:09 PM
Well, that's a relief. For a modest Northam lead you'd expect outliers like this and Monmouth.

How hilarious would it be though if this and the WaPo poll actually were accurate, and Northam ended up winning by more than Murphy.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Gass3268 on October 18, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
Well, that's a relief. For a modest Northam lead you'd expect outliers like this and Monmouth.

How hilarious would it be though if this and the WaPo poll actually were accurate, and Northam ended up winning by more than Murphy.

It'd mean that Democrats probably gain over 10 HoD seats easily.

If Northam wins by double digits, the Democrats would easily take the HoD.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Sir Mohamed on October 19, 2017, 09:06:32 AM
Outlier. Just like the Gillipsie +1 poll. I think the election will end up 50-45% for Northam, possibly 49-44%.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on October 19, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
Mark my words, as someone who lives in Virginia and NOVA particularly: Northam is probably going to win, but by no more than 6-8% at the most. My prediction right now would be Northam +3.5 in fact.

Neither candidate is going to win by a double digit margin, that is absurd.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Person Man on October 19, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
Mark my words, as someone who lives in Virginia and NOVA particularly: Northam is probably going to win, but by no more than 6-8% at the most. My prediction right now would be Northam +3.5 in fact.

Neither candidate is going to win by a double digit margin, that is absurd.

Seeing a lot of Republican lawn signs?


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on October 19, 2017, 05:01:22 PM
Mark my words, as someone who lives in Virginia and NOVA particularly: Northam is probably going to win, but by no more than 6-8% at the most. My prediction right now would be Northam +3.5 in fact.

Neither candidate is going to win by a double digit margin, that is absurd.

Seeing a lot of Republican lawn signs?
I've seen a lot of Northam lawn signs, but keep in mind I live in a liberal area.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Gustaf on October 21, 2017, 04:52:11 AM
Well, that's a relief. For a modest Northam lead you'd expect outliers like this and Monmouth.

How hilarious would it be though if this and the WaPo poll actually were accurate, and Northam ended up winning by more than Murphy.

It'd mean that Democrats probably gain over 10 HoD seats easily.

If Northam wins by double digits, the Democrats would easily take the HoD.

I think it depends a lot on what's driving the win. If it's crossover voting it would do less harm downballot to the GOP but if it's because of turnout differential it'd be a bloodbath.


Title: Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +14 (LV)
Post by: Xing on October 21, 2017, 04:29:23 PM
Unlikely, but as others have said, this seems about as out of line as the Monmouth poll. My current guess is Northam by 6, which would mean both Monmouth and Quinnipiac will have egg on their face.