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Title: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Hoosier_Nick on December 27, 2017, 05:46:35 PM
http://orlando-politics.com/2017/12/27/gravis-marketing-2018-florida-poll-results/


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: ajc0918 on December 27, 2017, 05:51:19 PM
Nelson will win.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 27, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
Makes more sense than Scott leading.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Doimper on December 27, 2017, 05:52:39 PM


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Free Bird on December 27, 2017, 05:57:48 PM

I mean in the end yeah probably, it is Bill Nelson after all, but is there any reason why polling has been so all over the place for this one?


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Jeppe on December 27, 2017, 06:11:06 PM

I mean in the end yeah probably, it is Bill Nelson after all, but is there any reason why polling has been so all over the place for this one?

Florida is a huge state and there have not been many high quality pollsters testing the race.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: adrac on December 27, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
I don't see Nelson losing in this environment.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Person Man on December 27, 2017, 06:18:42 PM
He probably wins like this in the end against Scott.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R) )
Post by: King Lear on December 27, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
Nelson will be facing an extremely tough race next year against Rick Scott, at this point I’d give a slight edge to Rick Scott, however that doesn’t mean Nelson can’t squeak it out. To me this race should be a national bellwether for Democrats, if their winning it their probably holding Down republican gains in the senate while if their losing it their probably facing a wipeout.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: IceSpear on December 27, 2017, 06:25:22 PM

I would hope by a bigger margin considering how easily he won in 2012 in a more neutral environemnt.

Yeah, but The Criminal will dump tens of millions into the race. He also has statewide name recognition and decent approvals, all things Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV did not have. Mid single digits would be a decent result for Nelson.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: IceSpear on December 27, 2017, 06:31:34 PM

I would hope by a bigger margin considering how easily he won in 2012 in a more neutral environemnt.

Yeah, but The Criminal will dump tens of millions into the race. He also has statewide name recognition and decent approvals, all things Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV did not have. Mid single digits would be a decent result for Nelson.

That's true, but 2012 was also a D+1 GCB. Anyway, I suspect it doesn't matter and that Scott passes on the race instead of blowing his childrens' inheritance.

That'd be pretty sweet since it'd make the race safe D.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Holmes on December 27, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
2017 golden standard Gravis has spoken


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: junior chįmp on December 27, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
Nelson was never going to lose


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on December 27, 2017, 07:40:40 PM

I would hope by a bigger margin considering how easily he won in 2012 in a more neutral environemnt.

Yeah, but The Criminal will dump tens of millions into the race. He also has statewide name recognition and decent approvals, all things Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV did not have. Mid single digits would be a decent result for Nelson.

That's true, but 2012 was also a D+1 GCB. Anyway, I suspect it doesn't matter and that Scott passes on the race instead of blowing his childrens' inheritance.

That'd be pretty sweet since it'd make the race safe D.

Meh, I'd say Likely D. Rick Scott saying No probably means someone like David Jolly jumps in, who wouldn't have much of  a chance, but you never count anything out in swing state Florida. Republicans aren't going to actually nominate Augustus Sol Invictus.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on December 27, 2017, 07:51:40 PM


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Holmes on December 27, 2017, 07:52:51 PM

I would hope by a bigger margin considering how easily he won in 2012 in a more neutral environemnt.

Yeah, but The Criminal will dump tens of millions into the race. He also has statewide name recognition and decent approvals, all things Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV did not have. Mid single digits would be a decent result for Nelson.

That's true, but 2012 was also a D+1 GCB. Anyway, I suspect it doesn't matter and that Scott passes on the race instead of blowing his childrens' inheritance.

That'd be pretty sweet since it'd make the race safe D.

Meh, I'd say Likely D. Rick Scott saying No probably means someone like David Jolly jumps in, who wouldn't have much of  a chance, but you never count anything out in swing state Florida. Republicans aren't going to actually nominate Augustus Sol Invictus.

Jolly's been pretty anti-Trump, no?


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: henster on December 27, 2017, 07:59:45 PM
FL is such a transient state its hard for any incumbent to really make an impression. How much has FL grown since Nelson was last on the ballot? Nelson seems to have to reintroduce himself to voters everytime he's up.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on December 27, 2017, 08:03:40 PM
Nelson will win this race by double digits in the end.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on December 27, 2017, 08:05:08 PM
Nelson will win this race by double digits in the end.

Quoted for posterity


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Holmes on December 27, 2017, 08:05:12 PM
Nelson will win this race by double digits in the end.

Against some random R, probably. Against Scott, mid single digits.

In 2012, Nelson won by 13% against a random Republican in a good year. 2018 might end up being a better year for Democrats.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on December 27, 2017, 08:05:41 PM

I would hope by a bigger margin considering how easily he won in 2012 in a more neutral environemnt.

Yeah, but The Criminal will dump tens of millions into the race. He also has statewide name recognition and decent approvals, all things Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV did not have. Mid single digits would be a decent result for Nelson.

That's true, but 2012 was also a D+1 GCB. Anyway, I suspect it doesn't matter and that Scott passes on the race instead of blowing his childrens' inheritance.

I think that you are correct; Scott is not going to spend so much money on a Senate Race.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Young Conservative on December 27, 2017, 08:27:21 PM
Even if Nelson wins, Scott could make Democrats waste resources here.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R) )
Post by: Pericles on December 27, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
Nelson will be facing an extremely tough race next year against Rick Scott, at this point I’d give a slight edge to Rick Scott, however that doesn’t mean Nelson can’t squeak it out. To me this race should be a national bellwether for Democrats, if their winning it their probably holding Down republican gains in the senate while if their losing it their probably facing a wipeout.

Ha ha sure Mr 'Moore by 10'.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: LeRaposa on December 27, 2017, 10:09:21 PM
Nelson will win because he is Bill Nelson.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Doimper on December 27, 2017, 10:35:21 PM
Nelson will win because he is Bill Nelson.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Oryxslayer on December 27, 2017, 10:41:10 PM

I mean in the end yeah probably, it is Bill Nelson after all, but is there any reason why polling has been so all over the place for this one?

Florida is a huge state and there have not been many high quality pollsters testing the race.

Also Scott got a massive boost from his administrations dealings with the summer Hurricanes. While that boost still lingers - this poll gives him 70% approval on his efforts, it has slightly worn off.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on December 28, 2017, 02:52:29 AM
Meh, I'd say Likely D. Rick Scott saying No probably means someone like David Jolly jumps in, who wouldn't have much of  a chance, but you never count anything out in swing state Florida. Republicans aren't going to actually nominate Augustus Sol Invictus.

Jolly will never win a Republican primary.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R) )
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 28, 2017, 02:10:32 PM
Nelson will be facing an extremely tough race next year against Rick Scott, at this point I’d give a slight edge to Rick Scott, however that doesn’t mean Nelson can’t squeak it out. To me this race should be a national bellwether for Democrats, if their winning it their probably holding Down republican gains in the senate while if their losing it their probably facing a wipeout.

Ha ha sure Mr 'Moore by 10'.
His predictions are only slightly less absurd than LimoLIberal's.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Hoosier_Nick on December 28, 2017, 06:50:08 PM
Yeah, I agree with everyone that says with Nelson it's probably somewhere between Lean D and Tilt D. Without Scott, honestly it's Likely D.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Brittain33 on December 31, 2017, 09:24:57 AM
Scott wins by 1% in Republican wave years, so of course he's going to trounce Nelson in a Democratic wave year if he's stupid enough to run, amirite?


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on December 31, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
Even if Nelson wins, Scott could make Democrats waste resources here.

I wouldn't say waste, it is a swing state.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: henster on December 31, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
Nelson's biggest problem is his age he's the oldest incumbent in a competitive race right now. When there is a big age gap the incumbent is usually at a disadvantage.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on December 31, 2017, 03:32:30 PM
Nelson's biggest problem is his age he's the oldest incumbent in a competitive race right now. When there is a big age gap the incumbent is usually at a disadvantage.

I'd say Darren Soto is his best possible successor as of now.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Kamala on December 31, 2017, 03:39:19 PM
Nelson's biggest problem is his age he's the oldest incumbent in a competitive race right now. When there is a big age gap the incumbent is usually at a disadvantage.

I'd say Darren Soto is his best possible successor as of now.

I’d say Kathy Castor is also a good pick.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on December 31, 2017, 03:48:42 PM
I like Castor too and hope she runs for higher office down the road as well, but I think Soto is the best choice. Moderate look, looks decent, represents a younger generation, puerto rican origin, reminds me of our version of Marco Rubio, I think he has a lot of potential. I like Castor too though, got no beef with her at all.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Donerail on December 31, 2017, 06:40:12 PM
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Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 31, 2017, 06:41:32 PM

Maybe I'm really daft, but what does this have to do with FL-SEN?


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Meatball Ron on December 31, 2017, 07:58:58 PM

This was a poem/song written by Darren Soto (incumbent Democratic Rep for FL-9) while he was in law school, for GWU Law's satirical law review. Some view Soto as a potential successor to Nelson when he likely retires in '24 (or if he were to announce a surprise retirement this year), and this could maybe get in his way given the current climate around sexual misconduct.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 31, 2017, 08:13:21 PM

This was a poem/song written by Darren Soto (incumbent Democratic Rep for FL-9) while he was in law school, for GWU Law's satirical law review. Some view Soto as a potential successor to Nelson when he likely retires in '24 (or if he were to announce a surprise retirement this year), and this could maybe get in his way given the current climate around sexual misconduct.
I don't see an issue. That sh!t is lit.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 01, 2018, 12:13:26 AM

Lol.

I like him even more.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Former Kentuckian on January 01, 2018, 02:02:36 AM

This was a poem/song written by Darren Soto (incumbent Democratic Rep for FL-9) while he was in law school, for GWU Law's satirical law review. Some view Soto as a potential successor to Nelson when he likely retires in '24 (or if he were to announce a surprise retirement this year), and this could maybe get in his way given the current climate around sexual misconduct.
I don't see an issue. That sh!t is lit.

I want Cardi B to cover this


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Brittain33 on January 01, 2018, 12:00:19 PM
Bill Nelson is 75. That's like 34 in Senate years


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: King Lear on January 01, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
It's amazing that Florida still has a Democratic Senator, considering the state Leans Republican at the Presidential level (it's voted more Republican then the nation in every election since 1980) and it hasen't elected a Democratic governor since 1994. However, if Bill Nelson loses in November, then Florida will become one of many Southern states where Democrats don't hold any statewide elected offices.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 01, 2018, 02:55:42 PM
It's amazing that Florida still has a Democratic Senator, considering the state Leans Republican at the Presidential level (it's voted more Republican then the nation in every election since 1980) and it hasen't elected a Democratic governor since 1994.

Clarence William Nelson is a miracle worker.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on January 01, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
It's amazing that Florida still has a Democratic Senator, considering the state Leans Republican at the Presidential level (it's voted more Republican then the nation in every election since 1980) and it hasen't elected a Democratic governor since 1994.

Clarence William Nelson is a miracle worker.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: pppolitics on January 01, 2018, 05:28:12 PM
It's amazing that Florida still has a Democratic Senator, considering the state Leans Republican at the Presidential level (it's voted more Republican then the nation in every election since 1980) and it hasen't elected a Democratic governor since 1994. However, if Bill Nelson loses in November, then Florida will become one of many Southern states where Democrats don't hold any statewide elected offices.
The Florida Democratic Party is incompetent.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: McGovernForPrez on January 01, 2018, 07:03:32 PM
Gravis has actually been on point lately. At least when they decide not to herd.


Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R) )
Post by: CookieDamage on January 03, 2018, 11:14:20 AM
Nelson will be facing an extremely tough race next year against Rick Scott, at this point I’d give a slight edge to Rick Scott, however that doesn’t mean Nelson can’t squeak it out. To me this race should be a national bellwether for Democrats, if their winning it their probably holding Down republican gains in the senate while if their losing it their probably facing a wipeout.

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Title: Re: Gravis Polling: Nelson 44 (D)-Scott 39 (R)
Post by: kyc0705 on January 04, 2018, 11:21:36 AM

I don’t remember these lyrics in "Mr. Brightside."