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Title: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 08:51:15 PM
Forward?
A 2012 Election Game

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RCP Average:
President Obama's Approval Rating:

Approve: 41%
Disapprove: 52%
Undecided: 7%

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 49%
Barack Obama: 45%
Undecided: 6%

President Obama marches into September 2011 with low approval ratings, having bounced somewhat from his lowest score in June 2011 but still far behind the numbers that could guarantee his survival to the upcoming primary and his own reelection as President. Still, some hope can be found in the White House on account of the Republican field proving divisive among the electorate, to the point in which a substantial group of voters who disapprove of the President's performance would likely still vote for him when opposed to most of the Republican field, a key factor in retaining the competitiveness of President Obama.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 09:42:45 PM
Turn One: At the Firing Line:
September 1st to September 30th, 2011

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In the News!

Protesters march on Wall Street, "Occupy Wall Street is born"
Thousands protests inequality, unemployment and bailouts, Zuccotti Park occupied by activists

An end to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
US Military allows gay and lesbian personnel to declare sexual orientation

Fears of Recession as Dow Jones falls
A sustained decrease in the Dow Jones Industrial Average has economists increasingly worried

War in Libya grows more violent, NATO reacts:
As the death toll rises, Sarkozy and Cameron pledge support to provisional leaders

Turner defeats Weprin in House seat:
Republicans stun White House after capturing Weiner's seat with 54% in special election

1.- Turn: This turn lasts across the whole month of September. As such, it's not meant for players to post an exhaustive schedule of every day (you can do so if you like though), but a turn focused on spin, messaging and the general strategy of each of your candidates. Messaging and the debate performance will matter greatly due to the volatile primary electorate, allowing candidates to rise and falls during the three monthly turns before polling stabilizes a bit in December.

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Mitt Romney: 21%
Sarah Palin: 19%
Chris Christie: 13%
Donald Trump: 12%
Ron Paul: 9%
Bobby Jindal: 8%
Saxby Chambliss: 3%
Walter Jones: 2%
Adam Carolla: 2%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 9%

Republicans: Mr. Fix-It and the Barracuda:

Amidst great expectation of a large primary fields, it was a shock to many observers to see many potential candidates decline to run for President for various reasons (ranging from familiar to a percieved lack of funds), allowing some of the predicted candidates to stand aside several darkhorses or far less expected candidates for the GOP Primaries. The leader-tier, so to speak, is currently comprised by frontrunners Mitt Romney, establishment darling, and Sarah Palin, known as the "Tea Party Queen" to some. Both represent starkly different wings of the GOP, both with their own staunch supporters and a set of weaknesses and strenghts that makes for a very competitive fight between both.

The mid-tier of competitive candidates is then followed by four strong choices in Governors Chris Christie  and Bobby Jindal, Representative Ron Paul and of course, the bombastic entrepeneur Donald Trump. Whereas Christie and Jindal offer different faces of conservatism and different styles of leadership, Ron Paul is buyoed by his small but dedicated group of followings, giving "Dr. Paul" a strong following in the internet and across the libertarian wing of the GOP. Mr. Trump, on the other hand, entered the campaign on a shocking opening speech which many branded as racist towards Mexican-Americans. Despite the fury caused by his statements Trump rose high for a moment, before stabilizing close to 12% amidst media attacks.

Rounding up the field in the "dark-horse" category are the remaining four candidates, all of which have managed to keep themselves on the public eye by polling at least 1% of more. The more notable of those is Senator Saxby Chambliss, originally thought to be a mid-tier candidate before crippling his candidacy almost at the start after highly questionable comments were made towards Governor Jindal. While Mr. Trump's far more offensive comments have prevented Chambliss from entirely sinking, his campaign starts September at a low. Congressmen Jones and Upton despite showing potential have not been able to garner much interest of attention, and so depend on good public performances to raise their profile. Finally, radio personality and comedian Adam Carolla has fought a spirited campaign despite starting with poor name recognition, boosting himself to 2% by early September.

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Barack Obama: 51%
Hillary Clinton: 30%
Russ Feingold: 7%
Phil Bredesen: 6%
Undecided: 6%

Democrats: 2008 Mk2: Electric Boogaloo

The Democratic primary challenges to President Obama have been in full-swing for the past few weeks as Hilary Clinton, Russ Feingold and Phil Bredesen have all challenged what they see as a weakened incumbent from different wings of the party: Feingold from the more progressive Democrats, Bredesen claiming the return of the Blue Dogs (and striking a populist tone) and Hillary Clinton reviving her broad coalition of allies and supporters from 2008, emphasizing the economic fears in a tone which was both well recieved and resembling of her more successful lines against Obama around the time of the Ohio and Texas primaries back in the last Democratic primary.

While a challenge to any incumbent has always been a tough proposition, all three candidates have found their own successful place in the polls. Secretary Clinton enters September with 30% of the primary electorate behind her and within shot of inflicting serious harm to the President, whereas Feingold and Bredesen's respectable 7 and 6% are thought to be decent points for a more successful performance (private polling from the DNC appears to suggest both Bredesen and Feingold stand a shot a winning primaries should they expand their support). The President, on the other hand, struck a hopeful tone at the start of his re-election campaign, retaining a clear lead and taking advantage of the percieved divisiveness of Clinton. On the other hand, the economic downturn of the past weeks has weakened the President's standing, leading pundits to stress the White House would do well to take the pretenders seriously.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
GOP Average Polling:

IOWA:

Mitt Romney: 19%
Sarah Palin: 19%  
Donald Trump: 16%
Chris Christie: 12%
Ron Paul: 12%
Bobby Jindal: 9%
Saxby Chambliss: 2%
Walter Jones: 1%
Adam Carolla: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 7%


NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Mitt Romney: 27%
Chris Christie: 19%
Donald Trump: 16%
Ron Paul: 13%
Sarah Palin: 6%
Bobby Jindal: 5%
Adam Carolla: 3%
Walter Jones: 2%
Saxby Chambliss: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 7%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Sarah Palin: 20%
Mitt Romney: 20%
Bobby Jindal: 16%
Saxby Chambliss: 9%
Chris Christie: 8%
Donald Trump: 7%
Walter Jones: 6%
Ron Paul: 4%
Adam Carolla: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 8%

FLORIDA:

Mitt Romney: 24%
Sarah Palin: 18%
Chris Christie: 13%
Bobby Jindal: 12%
Donald Trump: 9%
Saxby Chambliss: 5%
Adam Carolla: 3%
Ron Paul: 3%
Walter Jones: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 11%

NEVADA:

Mitt Romney: 27%
Sarah Palin: 16%
Donald Trump: 15%
Ron Paul: 8%
Chris Christie: 7%
Bobby Jindal: 4%
Walter Jones: 4%
Adam Carolla: 4%
Saxby Chambliss: 2%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 12%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 10:17:54 PM
DEM Average Polling:

IOWA:

Barack Obama: 46%
Hillary Clinton: 27%
Russ Feingold: 15%
Phil Bredesen: 4%
Undecided: 8%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Barack Obama: 47%
Hillary Clinton: 35%
Russ Feingold: 8%
Phil Bredesen: 3%
Undecided: 7%

NEVADA:

Barack Obama: 54%
Hillary Clinton: 32%
Phil Bredesen: 3%
Russ Feingold: 3%
Undecided: 8%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Barack Obama: 61%
Hillary Clinton: 19%
Phil Bredesen: 13%
Russ Feingold: 2%
Undecided: 7%

FLORIDA:

Barack Obama: 46%
Hillary Clinton: 37%
Phil Bredesen: 7%
Russ Feingold: 3%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 02, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
Adam Carolla Reacts to Trump’s announcement speech in New Hampshire

As much I enjoy watching Donald Trump in the Apprentice I did not expect this announcement and tone of it what so ever.

This man is not going to be the nominee if he acts like this what so ever.  He is unfit to hold a public office what so ever!
*Crowd boos*

Also about this wall. The United States is not going to be able to afford such a project as that and if he did such a thing we would be so much in debt that it would take a fortnight to get it all down.

We are almost 20$ trillion dollars in debt and it will keep going that way if we keeping spending money on nonsense like this!!

However when and if I am president we will set a balence budget amendment and a government so small I can barley see it.

*Crowd cheers and starts shouting Carolla*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 10:40:59 PM
1st Democratic Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Democratic candidates are invited to attend. Due to the advantanges of incumbency President Obama will not take an automatic hit if he refuses to debate. You have a right to reply to other candidates, but don't make it a ten post argument. Finally, you can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- The main question at the heart of America right now is what seems like an impending recession due to the continued drop in the Dow Jones, leading many to fear what will happen if the economic crisis started four years ago continues to extend in time. What is your plan to revive the American economy?

2.- There has been a lot of coverage on the recent takeover of a park near Wall Street by thousands of protestors, now starting to be known as "Occupy Wall Street". Their sudden apperance has been seen by some as a counterpoint to the so called Tea Party movement, but what is your personal take on this movement?

3.- Libya is at the center point of foreign policy in this precise moment on account of the raging civil war and the continued survival of Colonel Gaddafi despite the actions of NATO. Indeed, a few days ago Prime Minister Cameron and President Sarkozy appeared to agree on some key points in intervention. Where do you stand on Libya, and which role do you think the United States should play here?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To President Obama: Mr. President, for the first time in 1980 a sitting incumbent is challenged by more than one serious challenger, to the point in three different officeholders stand against you. Why should Democrats support you and not one of your challengers?

2.- To Senator Clinton: Senator, one of the key points made by the President lately has been that your challenge causes an unnecessary division inside the Democratic Party, a point of view shared by many of your critics. How do you respond to this?

3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, you have taken a direct line of attack towards the President and claimed the return of the so called "Blue Dog Democrats". Yet there are some who would argue the ideas of the Blue Dogs are actually away from the ideals of most Democrats. Do you think there's a contradiction there?

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, much has been made about the concerns of progressive Democrats towards President Obama. Where do you think the President has failed progressives?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 02, 2018, 10:54:53 PM
Carolla’s schedule for September 2011

Carolla spent the first part of the month campagining in Iowa and talking about ending NAFTA and all other free trade agreement.
Carolla quoted them as “Power to corporations more and less to working people and that it makes up less competitive”

Carolla said that he will fight for actually free trade and not restricted agreements.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 02, 2018, 10:58:30 PM
1st Republican Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Republican candidates are invited to attend, and you can of course reply to other candidates briefly. Since there are a lot of GOP candidates, the general questions are only two. You can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Governor Romney: Governor, one of the main concerns launched towards you has been your percieved political shift since 2008, some arguing either your stances back then or those now are based on convenience. What would you reply to that?

2.- To Governor Palin: Governor, there has been consistent criticism all the way back to your performance as the running mate to John McCain that Americans do not believe you have the experience and the necessary skill to become President. What would you say to them?

3.- To Governor Christie: Governor, you have only held the office of Governor of New Jersey for less than two years, much less experience than what President Obama had when running for President. Should voters be concerned about this percieved lack of experience?

4.- To Mr. Trump: Mr. Trump, there appears to be persistent confusion as to where you stand in ideological terms. Some brand you a conservative in the style of the Tea Party, others point to your past support for Democrats to brand your as a Northeastern moderate. Which is the more accurate version?

5.- To Congressman Paul: Congressman Paul, despte having a dedicated base of support some argue your personal views are not consistent with that of the majority of the GOP electorate, leading some to doubt a "libertarian" candidate could ever win a presidential primary. How fair is that view?

6.- To Governor Jindal: Governor, one of your most famous moments in the public eye has been your response to President Obama a couple of years ago, which was remarkably criticized as a poor media appearance and casted doubts on your ability as a candidate. Can you assure voters you can avoid repeating that experience?

7.- To Senator Chambliss: Senator, your campaign has come under very heavy fire over derogatory comments towards Governor Jindal, to the point in which the RNC has casted doubts on your campaign. Do you still believe it was wise to refer to the Governor in such a manner?

8.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you have entered history as one of the champions of the Iraq War and the so called "freedom fries" issue, only to become one of the fiercest anti-war Republicans. How do you justify such a jarring shift?

9.- To Mr. Corella: Mr. Corella, during the course of the primary seasons you have been percieved to be promoting a libertarian point of view, yet Congressman Paul, often recognized as one of the key and better known libertarians in the GOP, is also running. Why are you a better standard bearer for libertarianism than Congressman Paul?

10.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, in your open speech you noted the need for bipartisanship and you have been noted as one of the more moderate candidates in the race, if not the most. Do you think such views are really in tune with the primary voters?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 02, 2018, 11:02:53 PM
Phil Bredesen Campaign for September Part I

Phil Bredesen would spend the days leading up to the Debate not only prepping, but also commenting on Obama's policies and stating his own ideas for a policy. Maintaining his harsh criticisms of President Obama, Phil would attack perhaps Obama's greatest accomplishment, the Affordable care act, stating that all it was doing was forcing Americans to pay for Healthcare. Healthcare that they didn't want. His Campaign would consist of him travelling in the states of Nevada, New Hampshire, Florida, South Carolina, Iowa, Michigan, and Tennessee. Here are some of what he stated in his rallies thus far:

September 2nd, 2011
Columbia, South Carolina (Attendance: 45,768)
Talks about Tax Cuts


Hello, Coloumbia. I must say it feels really good to be in another southern state. Give me a sense of the Home field advantage. *laughs* But Columbia, listen. These past few years have been hard on you, haven't they? You have had to deal with high taxes that you simply didn't want to pay for.
 All of America had to. Obama imposed high taxes in a seven stage bracket that,in all honesty, made little sense to begin with. All he has done is make sure the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
 That isn't the American dream last time I heard about it. I promise you, Columbia, if I'm elected to be president, I will work with both parties in congress to remove these harmful taxes that is hemorrhaging our poor. I will introduce a 3 tier bracket, one with 24% Taxes; 28% Taxes and 32% Taxes. That is want the poor citizen needs. Not high taxes, but manageable taxes that make sure they actually have a sustainable income. You have been amazing, Columbia. God Bless you!




September 12th, 2011
Detroit, Michigan
Rally on lowering Corporate tax rate (Attendance: 92,000)


Detroit, can I ask you, have you suffered? Have you felt the change Obama promised you? From what I can see, the answer if yes but it's not the positive kind of yes. Booming steel industries that you once worked for, Factories that gave you an Honest Day's pay, gone. It is, in all honesty, the fault of Obama. He raised our Corporate Tax rates to the Highest in the world and thus, our jobs, YOUR jobs, have been forced to leave or get taxed harshly. I don't think that's fair to you. I don't think that's fair to the companies. I don't think that's fair to anyone. I want to give America Back her Jobs. Trust me when I say, support me and I'll get those jobs back for you. I will lower the Corporate Tax Rate from the 30th percentile to 20-22%. This will encourage jobs to return to America. This will encourage economic growth, but more importantly, this will mean you won't have to look your children in the eye and lie to them by saying everything will be ok even though you can't find a job. I hope you will look deep inside who you choose when it does come time to choose,
 for I will always be here, for you. God bless you all!
Cheers echo as Bredesen leaves the stage.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 02, 2018, 11:12:15 PM
Phile Bredesen debate answers: Part I

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1.- The main question at the heart of America right now is what seems like an impending recession due to the continued drop in the Dow Jones, leading many to fear what will happen if the economic crisis started four years ago continues to extend in time. What is your plan to revive the American economy?

Well, the answer is very obvious for that. We need to have limited government intervention in the Economy to keep it afloat but the biggest thing we need to understand is that giving Tax cuts and lowering our Corporate tax rates will give our economy a jump start that it hasn't seen in years. The reasons Small Businesses can't really branch out more is because of the high corporate tax rate that we have. The Bigger companies, like Ford, Toyota, Honda, y'know, the companies Obama drove out with his Corporate Tax Rate Plan, are actually important to our Economy. We can't tax them to oblivion. That idea is just stupid unless you want a constantly broken economy. Once these jobs return, we can begin to inject a steroid into the Economy for a good number of years. Jobs equals lowering unemployment which means a better Economy. That is a simple fact.

And then we need to lower and simplify our Tax cuts. Because of how high our current taxes our, the Rich can't invest in jobs, the stock market, or small businesses because they're afraid to be taxed to Oblivion from it. We lower our taxes, we get more investors. The investment in businesses, the higher the stock market gets. This is the Ideal Economy that America needs because the economy that Obama has given us isn't an economy, it's a failure.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 03, 2018, 12:00:34 AM
1st Republican Presidential Debate:

General Questions:

1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

I'd once again like to take this opportunity to thank Lumine for this wonderful debate that he has put together, truly great work. Right then, I'll get straight to the point, if elected president, I will seek to completely repeal Obamacare. We don't need a replacement, we need the free market to run its course while lacking red tape. I am on board with Senator Rand Paul on this one, and actually would like to take this time to announce that he is the Chambliss Presidential Campaign selection for HHS Secretary if we are elected.

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

Why? Because I am the one to be born into nothing and made a man out of my self. I am the one with the business administration degree from the University of Georgia, I am the one who saw hard work up close as I worked my way through college in a bakery, I am the one who was on the Agriculture committee that had so many job creating innovations, until the job killig democrats took over in '06. I am qualified for this, believe me.

Candidate Specific Question:

7.- To Senator Chambliss: Senator, your campaign has come under very heavy fire over derogatory comments towards Governor Jindal, to the point in which the RNC has casted doubts on your campaign. Do you still believe it was wise to refer to the Governor in such a manner?

Yes, I do believe it was wise. The American people deserve to hear the truth no matter how nasty it may be. And there is much more, but I gave the American people a taste of what Governor Jindal is like. I did not just make those comments out of thin air, you know, they are grounded in truth, Governor Jindal made them that way, we just outed him. We also have some more information regarding Governor Jindal that will be released shortly.

Well, I'd like to thank The American people for hearing me out, and hopefully it is now clear that I am the best choice for America. Thank yall and God Bless Georgia and America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 03, 2018, 12:03:05 AM
Gen. Clark announces surprise run:
Is America ready for a third party candidate?

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September 1st, 2011:

When media outlets recieved the unexpected news that retired General Wesley Clark was going to make a surprise announcement on Little Rock, Arkansas, most reporters rushed to conclusions. Sensing the President's weakeness, so went the semi-official line, General Clark would jump as the fifth candidate in the Democratic field, possibly correcting the mistakes of 2004 to lead a potentially interesting (if potentially blocked by the Clinton challenge) campaign for the nomination of the party he had embraced for the past eight years.

It was therefore an utter shock when General Clark, after blasting President Obama (after being a key ally of his in 2008) and dismissing the GOP field announced his intentions to run for the White House as an independent, asking Americans whether the Democrats or the GOP were indeed a suitable choice and offering the voters the chance to "Try something new". The announcement, beyond shocking the Democratic National Committee and spurring dismay from the White House seems to have shifted the political balance to an interesting degree within hours of his announcement.

Indeed, while many voters remember Clark as an ultimately unsuccessful candidate in 2004 and a potential top-tier challenge in 2008, it seems little to no thought was ever given to the possibility of the General running as anything else than a Democrat. When the subject of a third-party candidate was raised, most speculation this year has focused on GOP candidates Ron Paul and Donald Trump, as well as New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. For the time being, a flash poll for the New York Times showed this potential result:

New York Times, Flash Poll:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 48%
Barack Obama: 43%
Wesley Clark: 4%
Undecided: 5%

While an interesting degree of disaffected independents and moderate Republicans would pose a significant part of Clark's potential support, more than half of it would come from the Democrats themselves, opening the polling lead for "Generic Republican" to five points ahead of the President. It remains to be seen whether this run for the Presidency will endure and overcome the psychological barrier that affects third party candidates.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 03, 2018, 12:45:51 AM
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Thank you thank you South Carolina! Great to be here in Myrtle Beach, I am truly honored. I am Judson Hill, Campaign Manager for The Chambliss Presidential Campaign. And we are here to campaign for traditional Southern values (cheers). And we are going to do that by kicking out Obama and bringing back conservatism! This can only be accomplished with the right Republican nominee, and that is Saxby Chambliss, and not Bobby Jindal! (many cheers). Now y'all have heard a lot of Senator Chambliss' policies in his marvelous performance at the first primary debate (many cheers), but what y'all need to hear now is of another scandal regarding Bobby Jindal (many oo's and boos). Now we sent Don Huffines down to Terrebonne Parish after our counsel Ken Cuccinelli discovered a scandal while doing some research. Here it goes folks, a Farmer by The Name of Brian Bixby gave us this tape from his CCTV Camera, dated July 7th 2009 11:33am. Mr. Bixby is a chicken farmer and caught Bobby Jindal breaking into his property and chicken-diddling on one of his properties while in the area on a agriculture ingenuity trip organized by the LFB. I guess he just could not help himself, here we are distributing the flyers now:

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(shocks and gasps) Now I have no idea what Piyoosh was doing, but he needs shoosh from this race. The presidency and America is better than this, do not elect this disgraceful man, god only knows what happens to em cows (thunderous applause and laughter)... See America, you needed to know the truth. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to y'all, and we are going to keep campaigning and working hard for the fate of America (applause). Thank y'all, and God Bless The State of South Carolina and The United States of America! (thunderous applauses and jeers).


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 03, 2018, 01:27:03 AM
Clark for President, September Schedule:

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September 1st, 2011:

Announcement

September 2nd, 2011:

Wesley Clark campaigned in Little Rock, Arkansas talking to local citizens and having breakfast with his Campaign members and volunteers.

September 3rd, 2011:

General Clark decided to drive to Charleston, West Virginia to pitch his message to coal miners and just normal citizens.

Charleston, WV Rally (Attendance: 5,348):


Supporters of Wesley Clark cheer as the General takes the stage.

”...People keep talking about Obama’s war on coal. I’ve seen it before my eyes, it’s like they’re trying to take your jobs! Look we can balance the need for a clean environment with peoples jobs, that’s perfectly reasonable. Politicians just don’t want you to believe that can be done. We absolutely need to tax carbon emissions and make sure coal mine waste doesn’t get into our drinking water, and start switching to newer types of energy slowly. We can absolutely keep towns and communities intact, though! Overall I’m for more green energy and such, but if we stop trying to immediately rid people of their jobs and look at a smart and strategic way to do this, everything can be solved!...”

*claps and loud cheering after Clark finishes his overall one hour speech*

Lunch at McDonalds with campaign volunteers in Charleston, WV.

September 4th, 2011:

Rally in Huntington, WV (Attendance: 7,604):

”...The Democratic Party has left West Virginia. Wanna know why? Because the Democratic Party abandoned its values! So they lost some previously very loyal supporters. I promise you, as President I shall be a hell of a lot more than loyal! We’re gonna change this country, and truly reform broken down policies!!! Thank you, and please help elect me President of the United States!!!...”

September 5th, 2011-September 9th, 2011:

Wesley Clark took some time off from the campaign trail and spent time with family, and flew to Oregon on the eighth in preparation for a major rally.

September 10th, 2011:

Rally in Eugene, OR (Attendance: 10,004):

”...Look at the despicable candidates on the Republican side!!! It’s crazy what they believe in. Yenno I like some of the more libertarian candidates issues on some policies but the rest... damn, it’s a circus with these people!!! It’ll be a third term of Dubya I tell you!! The President isn’t much better either, he’s just continuing to pull America down a very unstable path, and I as an American citizen can’t watch this any longer!!! *massive cheers from the crowd* I cant stand to see what’s going on. Some people ask why I’m running as an independent. It’s because both parties are broken. They’re not for you. They’re not for the common man. Look, I care about each and every one of you. Sure, I can’t talk to each and every one of you but I wish I could. Instead, I can make you a promise. To try and work every day as hard as damn possible to make your lives better, and to pull you up and keep you safe. You think some of these guys wake up every morning thinking that? You think some of these career politicians think of how to make peoples lives better every morning they wake up? The straight answer is no. Very few people think that way. I think that way, because if an elected official is lucky enough to be elected and entrusted, he needs to hold a lot of responsibility. You don’t get that with this current White House Administration, and you didn’t get it with the last one either!!!...”

September 11th, 2011:

All campaigning is paused in remembrance for the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

September 12th, 2011:

Rally in Portland, OR (Attendance: 12,345):

”...Look at how the President of the United States parades himself like he’s accomplished something!!! Look at how he acts, when he’s being challenged by three serious contenders for the Democratic Nomination!!! Three!!! Now I have love for some of their policies, their true core policies which help the common man, but President Obama and the current Democratic Party Establishment don’t care about the common man!!! One challenger is bad enough, but three!?!?! Give me a break. I haven’t even gotten into his foreign policy yet, ugh. It’s a shame folks. It’s a shame. But, I have faith and confidence that the country will elect its first non partisan President this November. I have faith that we can restore our place in the world. I have faith that we can be that shining city on a hill. And I have faith that we can overcome all of our challenges if we work together!!! Thank you, Good Night, and God Bless America!!!... *numerous applause and balloons fill the venue*”

September 13th-September 16th, 2011:

General Clark has started setting up a national ground game and internet fundraising infrastructure. He will soon have a functioning volunteer campaign office in all fifty states. General Clark flew to Alaska on the 16th,

September 16th, 2011:

General Clark toured Anchorage before having a massive rally there.

Rally in Anchorage, AK (Attendance: 8,730):

”...I have faith that we can carry Alaska. You can see that both parties don’t care about how Alaska fares and can help Alaska move forward. You don’t see Mrs. Palin doing a lot to help Alaska either!!! Look at her, she’s acting like she’s President. She abandoned Alaska, abandoned it. If I was yalls Governor I would never leave, it’s so nice here. God, if she’s the nominee I’ll laugh. Y’all don’t wanna vote for someone like her. I don’t know who would be worse, Palin or a rock as President. They both got the same damn intelligence quota. The Republicans clearly don’t care about you, and the Democrats don’t either. Try something new. Try Clark. I’ll go to Washington the first day and I’ll be hitting the ground running, fighting for you. Fighting for Alaska, and fighting for America! Thank you!!!...”


September 17th-21st:

Rally in Juneau, AK (Attendance: 5,678)
Fly to California
Fundraising and Rally in Sacramento, CA (Attendance: 18,340)
Rally in San Francisco, CA (Attendance: 17,445)
Rally in Los Angeles, CA (Attendance: 34,008):

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“...Damn! They couldn’t fit people in the venue!!! So we decided to have it outside, dang! That’s huge. See we’re really making an impact! Ah, I love it out here. The fresh air feels nice. Let me tell you California, Obama is no President for you!!! Look at how much people the President is deporting too!!! Now look, we need a border and a strong one. However, we need to be working and spending our resources on making it easier to become an American citizen, not deporting grandmas and parents of children, and valuable members of our society!!!...”

September 22nd-24th, 2011:

Wesley Clark takes a break from campaigning to spend time with family.  

September 25th, 2011:

General Clark boards an early morning flight to Cleveland, Ohio, and talks with some of the passengers on the plane. Many request a picture, even staunch conservatives had nothing but the best to say about the General.

September 26th, 2011:

Rally in Cleveland, OH (Attendance: 34,001)

”...My, oh my. We have over thirty thousand people here!!! I don’t remember the last time a third party has made so much impact!!! Damn!!! Thank you America!!! Hah, don’t y’all worry. We’re gonna get this country right back on track!!!...”

Rally in Cincinnati, OH (Attendance: 40,022)

”...I love your friend and former mayor, Dennis Kucinich!!! Wish that guy would endorse me already!!! He’s a good guy, you’re a lucky city, Cincinnati!!! You’ll be even luckier after together we can break the stranglehold of the two party system though!!! Damn, I watched both party debates over again and... it’s terrifying. There’s only a couple candidates who I wouldn’t be absolutely mortified by, but we can still do better. The front runners are atrocious! America can surely do better! And we will!!!...”

The remainder of September:

General Clark took the remainder of September off to spend time with family and call former political office holders. He also decided to have a text- livestream where he answered supporters’ and non supporters’ questions. By the end, everyone who had participated in the chat massively had nothing but the best to say about General Clark. He’s resonating.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 03, 2018, 02:05:29 AM
1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

This is a good question, but one I will not answer the way my opponents will, we don't like 'big government', but this Big Government program is not Socialism like some of my fellow Republicans may call it. Obamacare provides healthcare for millions of Americans, Usually I think about how things are going to effect the people I know and love and those in my own district, but when I first read ObamaCare I knew it was going to be good for the American people, some parts of it are not the best, but we can repeal those parts and replace them with what is going to be best for the American people.


I will be accused of being a RINO, but Im not Im not a RINO and personally I don't like the terms and labels "Republican" and "Democrat" I like the term American that is what we all are isn't it? We are Americans We fought the British 200 years ago we fought the Nazis 70 years ago and We fought communism in the world for the last 60 years. We are all Patriotic in our own ways, but it doesnt matter if your Blue or Red Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal. We all stand in common on this stage and in this nation, we love our country and we will fight for this country.



My father worked for his living as did his father and many of you watching this debate right now do to, I did too we don't make all the decisions you the American people do, and the American people have spoken, They want ObamaCare and I will not disrespect the American people for what they want as that is not what the Representative of all of them is supposed to do.

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?



Thank you, I only have a simple response to this one, Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We cannot continue to tax these corporations at the rate we are now it will lead to ruin not just for the American way of life, but for the American People and our Economy. We don't need to lower taxes just on Corporations, but on the working man and woman too. In my Congressional District there is a town about the same size as the average American town, about 8000 people this town is called Three Rivers, and there is a factory there called American Axel this factor employees 2000 people in a town of 8000, this would be disaster if it left, and it is just trying to make a profit, but the Corporate Tax rate is just too damn high! The People there are represented by the UAW great people I have met with them multiple times and they agree the workers at the Plant are just trying to make a living but the Government is taxing them too damn high! Im not calling for the elimination of the Government, but Im calling for lowering the taxes just a little bit so we can let the harding working people of the UAW and all hard working Americans to have life be just a little bit easier out there.



10.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, in your open speech you noted the need for bipartisanship and you have been noted as one of the more moderate candidates in the race, if not the most. Do you think such views are really in tune with the primary voters?



People say the extreme wins votes in primaries, it doesn't what wins you votes in the primaries, is electability we have had an alright Presidency these years under President Obama, but we don't need "alright" what we need is a return the days before the Iraq War before this large Budget deficit and before the disasters of the last 40 years, I want not a return to Reagan or Bush or Clinton, but a RETURN TO NORMALCY! God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America!


(WGH Please dont sue me)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 03, 2018, 04:08:23 AM
Phil Bredesen Debate Answers Part II

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2.- There has been a lot of coverage on the recent takeover of a park near Wall Street by thousands of protestors, now starting to be known as "Occupy Wall Street". Their sudden appearance has been seen by some as a counterpoint to the so called Tea Party movement, but what is your personal take on this movement?

Well, Their intentions are good, I'll give them that. I'm all for ending unemployment, inequality, and bank bailouts, but the thing is, protesting does nothing. That's just a fact. If protesting did do something, then Obama would be replaced b a republican right now, which would indeed be awful. They are unintentionally disrupting the economy by doing this as because of this, people who are just doing their job can't do their job, leading to slower growth in the economy, leading to more inequality and unemployment, which will in fact lead to even more protesting.


It's a cycle that will always repeat itself because the big people at Wall Street won't care about you. The only real way to inact change is to vote with your gut. Will vote for the man who allowed all this to happen or will you vote for someone fresh and new who will bring health to the Economy and will shrink unemployment, inequality and our debt and will not do a single bank bailout for the big banks. I will also stamp out corruption, greed and other such nonsense for by having my own independent, private investigator looking at these allegations and finding out who is guilty and who isn't sure we can clean up wall street.

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3.- Libya is at the center point of foreign policy in this precise moment on account of the raging civil war and the continued survival of Colonel Gaddafi despite the actions of NATO. Indeed, a few days ago Prime Minister Cameron and President Sarkozy appeared to agree on some key points in intervention. Where do you stand on Libya, and which role do you think the United States should play here?

I say this: I will not turn Libya into another Iraq. We are still reeling back from Iraq when all the chaos in Libya started that we can't get involved unless it is very necessary. Despite being a tyrant and a megalomaniac, oppressing his people and keeping them from their civil rights, there is no denying that Gaddafi is a stabilizing force in the region, much like Saddam was in the middle East until we got rid of him. With that being said, I think we should sit and watch to see if someone who truly holds democratic values and do not act like total Animals appears. If there is no such group, then we will financially support Gaddafi to at least see an attempt to return to stability. Nothing more, nothing less. the moment the civil war is finished, I will pull all financial funding from Gaddafi and challenge his oppressive regime. There can be no mistaking that this could be another Iraq and we must tread very, very carefully.

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3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, you have taken a direct line of attack towards the President and claimed the return of the so called "Blue Dog Democrats". Yet there are some who would argue the ideas of the Blue Dogs are actually away from the ideals of most Democrats. Do you think there's a contradiction there?

I don't know, why don't you look at the Gubernatorial election of Tennessee in 2006 and tell me. *laughs* but in all seriousness, A majority of us are "out of touch" with most Democrats, but that's because these liberals are on a slippery slope. You are already seeing the massive following Senator Bernie Sanders has. Now let's make it abundantly clear that I am not a fan of Bernie Sanders nor do I enjoy any of his policies. He is taking young Democrats who don't know anybody and turning into hardline socialists without any of them actually looking into it and seeing how much socialism ruined several countries.

But to really answer your question, I don't think there is a contradiction that the Blue Dog Democrats are a better choice for Democrats. After all, Bill Clinton was a blue dog and He was given a ton of support by Everyone. 8 years later, Our economy was doing great, we had a large National Surplus, Unemployment was almost a non-factor. Look at my track record in Tennessee and compare them to Bill Clinton. In your eyes, I may be an elite conservative who thinks to highly of himself, but I am just like any other Democrat through and through. The only real way for you to know if I'm good for you is to choose me and see if I will enact your Interests.

Closing Statements

Now America, you are 100% in your right to choose whomever you support. Support whomever you think will be the best for America, that is completely within your right to do so. But our Economy is on the downturn, our global standing is a joke, and our unemployment situation gets worse and worse. This is something that cannot go on. That's why I'm running, to be the candidate who wants to enact real change, not talk about but never do like President Obama has done. When it come time to vote, remember this: Do I want more of the same or do I want to give a blue dog who has really proven himself in his home state a chance? Thank you for letting me be here, it was great.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 03, 2018, 08:06:00 AM
Phil Bredesen Campaign for September: Part II

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September 16th, 2011
Des Moines, Iowa
Rally about Obama's "Change" (Attendance: 83,451)

"Hello, Iowa! I want to ask you a very specific question: Are you ready for Change? Crowd goes silent "I thought that would happen. 4 years ago you gave a man who talked about change your vote. Now where look where you are right now. Your state is in tatters, your religion threatened by Obama's 'Diversity'. That is not what a state as beautiful as this place should have happen to it. This state should be a place where everyone is free to their own religion and your own viewpoints. All of America should be. Obama has ignored that and do to his ignoring, you have suffered. I ask you if you want to continue to suffer. Do you think you're better now ago then you were four years ago? If you are, then the answer is obvious, but if not, well, there's always another option. Thank you, Des Moines! You've been great! God Bless you all!"

September 18th, 2011
Concord, New Hampshire
Rally on Freed Trade vs protectionism (Attendance: 17,942)

"Hello Concord! Great city, lovely state. Might move here if I ever retire one day. *laughs*In all seriousness, though, I'm here to talk about Free Trade vs Protectionism. Mainly, Protectionism. New Hampshire, you constantly trade away the goods you and other states made for little or no return meanwhile, countries like Japan, China, and Mexico get wealthy off of your hard work. That is not what I think when I see a good worker who's trying to make a living. Instead of you getting your money from what you make, other countries do and then they force us to pay even more to buy their things or the things that were supposed to be made over there. That. Is. Ludicrous. If you choose me, I will do the same thing to these countries what they're doing to us. I will raise tariffs to 50% for 4 months and then negotiate the countries. If they refuse to lower tariffs, then I will keep the tariffs in place until they do. Once That is done, we would secure a truly good job for trade so I do think it's time for change in that department. God Bless you all, great state of New Hampshire!"

September 20th, 2011
Tallahassee, Florida
Rally on Healthcare (Attendance: 91,435)

"Florida, Florida, Florida. God, it's great to be here, beautiful place, if a bit hot." *laughs with crowd* Now, let's talk about healthcare." *crowd Goes Silent.* "I had a feeling that would happen. We heave to talk about it though. Obamacare premiums are projected to rise by a few projectiles every few years that, by 2018, 50% of you will not be able to pay for them. That's ridiculous. Healthcare is something that should be a choice and should be easily accessible. Now, do I want free Healthcare? No, look at Canada for the reason why. The waiting lines for treatment for Cancer and other diseases are so long that some people don't even make it to treatment. That's the problem with free healthcare. Instead, what I want to do is repeal Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act, which is a bit of a contradiction by now, don't you think? and allow smaller healthcare businesses rule the market, keeping premiums and pricing at an affordable rate. Doesn't that sound Amazing, Tallahassee?" * Crowd Cheers Loudly* "God Bless you, I hope to see you even more on the Campaign Trail!"

September 20th, 2011
Knoxville, Tennessee
Rally on Foreign Policy (Attendance: 107,340)

"Hello, Rocky top!" *Crowd cheers and shout Phil's last name multiple times until Phil signals for them to quiet down* "Thank you, Thank you. It's been great coming back here and seeing all the things that really matter in this state. Now, I want to speak with you about Foreign Policy. I got asked the question in the debate about Libya and I simply said that I would support Gaddafi only for the country's continued stability after the war there ends. Now, make no mistake, if there are any, and I do mean ANY, reports of crimes against Humanity from Gaddafi, I will pull all support from him and leave him to rot, because no tyrant that massacres their people deserves America's aid. Now let's get onto Iraq and Afghanistan. Both those countries have significant US forces there but for a perfectly good reason. To keep the peace there. We withdraw now, it's believed that both countries will back into the hands of tyrants. We can't let that happen. We Just can't. I want a permanent US deployment of 15,000 troops in Afghanistan and 27,000 US troops in Iraq for an entire term of President. After me, the next president can decide whether or not withdrawing the troops will be a good idea. It's not my call. I just want to make sure that both countries are stable for 4-8 years more before pulling out."

"Now, let's go to Pakistan. Fairly simple enough. If they have Al Queda locations and they aren't doing anything about it, they aren't doing their part in the War on Terror and the race to find Bin Laden. I dare even say that Osama is located somewhere in Pakistan and is being given sanctuary by them. If he is, then I think you agree with me when I say "Screw your borders, we're going in and taking him out!" *Crowd cheers as Phil leaves after giving a God Bless you to the citizens and prepares to leave for his last major stop.*


September 22nd, 2011
Reno, Nevada
Rally on Immigration (Attendance: 77,654)

"Reno, let's talk about immigration. Our border policies are very slack and thousands of illegal immigrants cross the border every year. Those who get deported STILL come back too. Now don't call me a Trump 2.0, I do not like the ideas that man are spewing. No, Mr. Trump, Not all Mexicans are drug dealers and not all of them are rapists. For the GOP to even consider electing someone like that to be their nominee shows how far they've fallen. Back onto my main point, Immigration is very Lax. that is certainly no lie. Because of that, Illegals come through practically every year with no real thing happening to them. Meanwhile, they take the jobs from legal immigrants and from average hard working Americans. I have two ideas to stop this issue. Part 1 is to build a long series of Fencing stretching from California to Texas. Once that is in place, we will have 5-10 guards per every section of fencing to make sure illegals don't try to get over it. You want to be here, you have to come here legally. Part 2 is to deport every illegal immigrant in this country and continue to deport them until they come here legally. If they don't come here legally, it proves only one thing, they are only here to take advantage of our generosity by not really doing anything. Now for one time illegals, there will be no punishment other than being sent back. For repeat offenders, however, I will jail them for 4 months and then send them back to teach them that coming here illegally is not the way. Thank you, Nevada, you've been spectacular!

Phil Would continue the rest of his campaign by visiting Ohio, Missouri, Texas, Wisconsin, New York, Virginia, California, and Arizona, delivering the same talking points that he did in the previous seven speeches. On September 30th, he would travel between Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Chicago, Louisville, Richmond, Arlington, and Albany to  give his speeches, do several fundraisers and raise his support among the Nation. Now, prepared for October, Phil Bredesen is ready to give the President and Senator Hillary Clinton one hell of a fight.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 03, 2018, 09:11:53 AM
ADAM CAROLLA’s PRESIDENTAL DEBATE ANSWERS ANSWERS

1.Well I have respect for Congressman Paul a lot actually and I appreciate what he has done for the liberty movement.
However I feel like he is too old to have another go and I feel like follow in his footsteps and run on a populist Libertarian platform like me.

As for differences well I am more moderate on some issues than Mr Paul like I want to reform Wall Street and separate corporations and the government for good.  

Another big one is despite the rumors that I would cut Medicare and Medicaid when Mr Paul wants to abolish.

I want to fix the broken mess of the system. You got too many scams and frauds and people cheating the system and I believe as President I will work with whatever House or Senate and fix these programs.

Also I don’t believe in no government. I believe in small government.

I feel my like beliefs are just like a Calvin Coolidge’s  rather than Paul’s. And I don’t think that’s a bad time.


2.Well as President I will go for a competitive free market health care that let you not the government decide and to try to fight the pharmaceutical from trying to preforming a monopoly of

Obamacare is a total gift to those type of groups.

Buying good healthcare and health insurance should be cheap and easy but it isn’t and President Obama’s has shown us this with his biggest lie yet “Obamacare”

And the fact that Mitt Romney as governor gave your people something like this and that ended horribly now wants to abolish something that he started in is a flip flop if there ever is one.

Mean Obamacare has been a total lied from day 1.  We would told that there would be no taxes but there ends up being several of them on this program. He said we could keep our doctor and plan and that turn out to be a lie. We were told premiums would go down but guess what? They went way up!

As a matter of fact Obamacare is just one big tax that is disguised as a healthcare system and President I will repeal and replace everything single word of Obamacare!!!

3.Well first as President I would cut back all job killing regulations especially the ones set in by the current administration.  Then I would cut enough spending to balence the budget and create a balence budget amendment so that we never have to go over the edge on government spending again.

Think about it we spend on things that we never use and and spend on things that don’t really work or we really care about.  And someone we forget about it

Then we are going to cut taxes and replace the IRS with a 15-20% flat tax. I promise a tax cut in every single bracket and income and rewrite the American tax code and make it simpler for all Americans and businesses. I am going to make sure that you will get more money in your pocket and in your paycheck.

I will gut all these uncalled for taxes like the death and the property tax.   As a matter of fact there are so many taxes you actually don’t even know of and you are paying of them and you do even know it.

Trust me I live in California and the amount of paperwork in taxes I have to play for is astonishing.

This hidden taxes and fees should be money that you should be in your hands not the governments.

Another thing killing jobs is these so called free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA

They are not free trade what so ever. They are indeed the opposite of Free trade and have resulted in losing jobs to Mexico and China and to big corporations.  

I visited people in Iowa who’s jobs and living were destroyed over these deals and how we Americans should should take a second look at what we have done. Those hard good paying jobs were killed and got sent to another country only this time it’s made in worse conditions than before.

And as President in my first week I will repeal every one of these major fair trade deals and give those jobs to Americans again.

In conclusion yes I am not a politician however what I am is a American. I have been disappointed in recent years over this administration however I still have hope for this country. Not the hope that Obama and the Democrats want but a America where the government puts its people first and special interests last.
I said it before and I will say it again.  America is tired of a politician that is a liar and that acts all rebellious and tough until they get into office and turn out to be the exact same as the person before.

I unlike most of the people here are not being payed to say these. I speak from the heart I am being real here.  


So here’s my pledge to you. I will be a chief executive that will have the back of the country. I wouldn’t talk down to the people. I won’t be a divider in chief. I won’t be out there talking a big game without backing it up.

I believe we can get out there and get into business and go out there and create a more peaceful America and World.  Good night.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Grassroots on January 03, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Obama debate answers

1. We are in a large amount of problems right now, but over the past four years, we have made many improvements. But for a second term, my plan is this. One, I will lower the tax rate for businesses. It is necessary for a short term lowering of strain on our businesses, so they can achieve their potential and hire more people. Jobs are what we need in a time like this. Second, we will make it much harder for companies to outsource jobs by ending deductions for those that do. Third, we will start to unleash the potential of alternative energy. This will not only propel us into a clean 21st century economy, it will also create millions of jobs at the same time.

2. The Occupy Wall Street protestors have a point. In some ways, they are similar to the Tea Party movement, in other ways, they have completely different political viewpoints. The most important thing we can do right now is those of us in leadership letting people know that we understand their struggles and we are on their side, and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded.

3. I believe that we shouldn't have are boots on the ground there. Eventually we are going to have major problems if we get involved in Libya. We could be getting into another Iraq war. We need to stop before we get into something dangerous.

1 (Specific): I believe that I am a well rounded Democrat on pretty much every issue. As to Senator Feingold and Governor Bredesen, they are both either too conservative, or too far to the left to address the conserns of American democrats or Americans in general. As for Hillary, there was a reason why people didn't want her to be the nominee four years ago. If she were elected, we would probably still be in Iraq, we would be in Libya, and we would have the blood of our soldiers on our hands. She is a good person, but her hawkish positions and conservative ideals make her a dangerous individual to nominate or hand the presidency to.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 03, 2018, 04:45:36 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
September 1 to September 30, 2011

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September 1 to September 4: Senator Clinton holds a series of events in New York City and the surrounding area. The schedule includes a meeting with members of the Center Against Domestic Violence, a tour of John Bowne High School in Queens, and a walking tour of New York City with members of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association of the City of New York. The Clinton Campaign has titled these events a "Listening Tour" that will help Senator Clinton "get to know the issues that are at the heart of the discontent in America". A fundraiser in the Hamptons was held, with former President Clinton in attendance.

September 5 to September 10: Senator Clinton's Listening Tour continued in New Hampshire. The Senator met with the Young Democrats of New Hampshire in Manchester and discussed the importance of youth turnout. She also visited several VFW and American Legion posts across the state, using the meetings to hear first-hand about the struggles veterans face in civilian life. Senator Clinton met with Governor John Lynch to discuss the budding drug crisis in the state. Senator Jeanne Shaheen joined Senator Clinton during her tour of the state.

September 11: Senator Clinton returned to New York City the morning of September 11 to attend a service at Ground Zero. After the service, she met with first responders from the attack and families of victims. No campaign events were held.

September 12 to September 21: Before leaving New York City, Senator Clinton went to Zuccotti Park and met with members of the Occupy protest in an effort to get a better grasp of their positions. She then took an Amtrak to Washington, D.C. for Senate business. Senator Clinton did not take part in any campaign events, but campaign offices were opened and field staff were hired.

September 22 to September 28: The Clinton Campaign's Listening Tour shifted to Florida at the end of September. Senator Clinton held meetings with Cuban refugees and discussed the state of Cuban-American relations. She took part in a roundtable discussion on climate change with Floridians affected by recent hurricanes, such as Ike and Rina. The Senator also attended a meeting of the Florida Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Florida Senator Bill Nelson joined Senator Clinton during her tour of the state.

September 29 and September 30: Senator Clinton flew to Nevada after leaving Florida. She began with a tour of the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, where she met with members of the Student Government Association. She also attended a meeting of the College Democrats of UNLV and a meeting with several college administrators, discussing the rising cost of higher education with both groups.

On September 30, Senator Clinton held her first true rally of the campaign at Sam Boyd Stadium in Whitney, Nevada. She used the Whitney speech to promote her economic agenda, calling it "a plan for the working class". She laid out her proposal for tax cuts for the middle class, increasing penalties for companies with off-shore accounts, and introducing the summer Gas Tax Holiday. Senator Clinton lamented the Obama Administration for "listening to the financal analysts who say the economy is back on track. If the President and his staff actually got out into the street and talked to real people, they'd know what I've been saying for years. The Great Recession is not over. The stock market is abysmal. People are suffering. I'm here today to offer my hand, to help life up every America let down by this White House."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 03, 2018, 06:09:23 PM
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Adam Carolla’s anti war speech in Reno Nevada

President Obama’s has lied once again to the Amercian people.  He promised that there would be no wars and that he would see a troop withdrawal in Iraq.  But still I haven’t heard of a troop withdrawal. However I have heard of a troop surge of 10,000 into Iraq in 2012. *Crowd boos and chants lying Berry* and he is now gotten us into another possible endless war in Libya.  And to make it worse Hillary Clinton,Mitt Romney ,Sarah Palin,Donald Trump and most of the rest would probably do the same.

However when I am president I will get our troops out of Iraq and stop the Libyan crisis before it gets too out of hand.
*Crowd cheers*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 03, 2018, 06:38:15 PM
Governor Jindal's Debate Responses

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1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

First, I'd like to thank Lumine for hosting this great debate.

But next, I'd like to show America that unlike other candidates, I don't just chant "repeal Obamacare!" I have a real plan once Obamacare is repealed. But first, let me quickly explain why we need to replace Obamacare, as it seems that explanations for Obamacare are in short supply.

The main problem with Obamacare is that to fulfill the requirements of making it a universal health care system, it uses charges and taxes to achieve this. A good example of this is the individual mandate. This makes Americans who currently don't have health insurance and don't or can't buy health insurance pay a fee to the IRS. Originally, the fee was capped at $280 a year. However, the fee will in the future be capped at just over $2000 a year, which many poor Americans can't afford. And the total costs to taxpayers over a decade will reach three trillion dollars. Another problem is that health care providers are simply pulling out of regional exchanges due to the costs imposed by Obamacare to maintain them. And with less insurers, there is less choice, and less choice is bad for competitiveness and citizens.

So how can we replace this system? Well, the simplest way would just be to wipe out Obamacare and leave healthcare to the free market. However, this does not ensure that citizens will get the best health coverage, as rising health care costs would come back like they were before Obamacare was implemented. Between 1975 and 2005, health care costs rose 2% faster than normal economic growth (per-person).

This is where my plan comes through. First, my plan would include refundable tax credits to offset the cost of paying for a new health care system while still being able to maintain it. Obamacare does nothing to address taxpayers' concerns, but my plan will. And, to ensure that those who use the system more get more back, these tax credits increase with age. But in addition to credits, there would also be a cap on the employer exemption, so that Americans can know that they have the freedom to choose where they want their insurance from without penalty of cost, but also the government would not go farther in debt. This is all the time I have for know, but I will explain more of my system in-depth on the campaign trail.

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

As Governor of Louisiana, I made sure that our unemployment stayed well below the national average during the recession. It never went over 7.8%, while the nation exceeded 10%. During that same period, Louisiana added over 78,000 new jobs and our private sector job growth was 5%, which ranked us in the top five states in the nation. Our year-over-year job count has grown for 47 consecutive months. Our total non-farm paid employment is at our state's highest total in history. And this has attracted growth. More people are moving to Louisiana than are moving away. And these newcomers are getting well-paid jobs, too. This has increased our state's average personal income by 15%, and is also at the state's highest level in history. More than $54 billion worth is being spent in our state now since I took office. Thousands of new jobs are being created in all cities in Louisiana, such as Lake Charles and Monroe, every day. How did I do this? I cut taxes, not only for businesses, but for average Americans also. And this is why both businesses and people are moving to my state. I plan to implement the same tax cuts on a larger scale, if elected President. I could keep going on listing my job record as Governor, but I think it's pretty clear. If you want jobs, you want Jindal.

3.- Governor, one of your most famous moments in the public eye has been your response to President Obama a couple of years ago, which was remarkably criticized as a poor media appearance and casted doubts on your ability as a candidate. Can you assure voters you can avoid repeating that experience?

I'll do one thing a lot of politicians won't do. I'll own up to my mistake. I was new to the political scene and I did not take enough time to prepare for the response. But in the weeks after, I soon learned failure is the beginning of success. And, in fact, while I would have loved for the response to turn out perfectly and for me to have boosted my national profile, I don't think I would be in the place I am now without that experience. I learned key lessons not only to apply to making speeches, but also in life. And I can say, because of that, I am far better prepared for holding the office of President than those who have not suffered a failure in the same manner, because they have not learned the same life experiences I have. In fact, I recommend all presidential candidates bomb a response to the State of the Union! (laughs) In all seriousness, I'd like to say two things to all of you who are concerned about my fitness as a presidential candidate based solely upon a speech I made three years ago. I have changed as person and a candidate since then, so don't expect the same failure. And more importantly, don't judge a book by its cover.

Response to Senator Chambliss:

First of all, Senator, you say that you "outed me" and that your comments were "founded in truth." Is fabricating a story that I was not born in America, when in fact I was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the truth? Second, you say that you have "some more information regarding Governor Jindal that will be released shortly." Is this a threat? America, this is the kind of man Senator Chambliss is. He first not only makes up complete lies to support his racist remarks, but he next threatens this campaign with a "release of information." Are these the qualities you want in a president, America? Do these qualities represent honesty and truth, two critical qualities in a person who will be the leader of the free world? Here's my rebuttal to the Senator: release whatever "information" you have. I'm not concerned. America will see right through it.

Closing statement

America, when we ended the last campaign for President, we thought we would see radical change. We thought our nation would be far improved by now. Well, we're now at the end of the President's term. And we can see that Obama's administration has failed the American people. He has changed America, but for the worse. Unemployment is at record highs, our economy is in shambles, and Obama is destroying our nation's standing in the world. We are no longer a world superpower; instead, other nations are dictating where our jobs and products will go. Now, I'm supposed to explain to you why I'm a better choice for president than the rest of these people on this stage. But I'll admit, almost all of these people on this stage will be a better option than Obama or one of his far-left opponents. But my Republican opponents are just "good enough". Let's not settle for "good enough". Choose a candidate that will create real change in America. Choose a candidate that will look out for all Americans, no matter how much money you have in your wallet. Choose a candidate that will rebuild our nation from the ground up, by proposing a real replacement for Obamacare and making sure that true conservative values will be back in government, while making sure that we will be cooperative in getting these values through. Choose a candidate that won't work for themselves, but for America. And most importantly, choose a candidate that will defeat the Democrats, and Obama, in 2012.

I am this candidate. And this is why I humbly ask for your vote, no matter what state you live in. Thank you.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 03, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
September 2011 Debate

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Q1: The main question at the heart of America right now is what seems like an impending recession due to the continued drop in the Dow Jones, leading many to fear what will happen if the economic crisis started four years ago continues to extend in time. What is your plan to revive the American economy?


Clinton: If there's one thing that the American people can agree on, it's that this economy isn't working. For far too long, jobs have been scarce and even if you can find work, wages have been stagnant. Too many Americans are having to take on either extra shifts, or start second or even third jobs to pay the bills. This cannot last. Our economy must be fundamentally changed to work for everyone in the 21st Century. That is why I've proposed a three part strategy to get the economy back on track. First, we need to cut taxes on the middle class, to give people the freedom to either save some money or pay off some bills. Second, we need to pursue companies with secret off-shore accounts and aggressively punish them for avoiding their taxes. Third, we will create the summer Gas Tax Holiday, to help the American people save on gas during the busiest gas consumption season. These three steps, together, are the beginning of truly ending the Great Recession and restoring confidence in the American economy.

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Q2: There has been a lot of coverage on the recent takeover of a park near Wall Street by thousands of protestors, now starting to be known as "Occupy Wall Street". Their sudden apperance has been seen by some as a counterpoint to the so called Tea Party movement, but what is your personal take on this movement?

Clinton: Well, let me tell you. I met with members of the Occupy Wall Street Movement in New York the other day. Like many people, I'd heard about the Occupy Movement and I wasn't really quite sure what to make of them, so I took the time to go hear it directly from them. They're fed up with being ignored. That's their message, plain and simple: listen to us. Well, I'm listening to you. We need to have a discussion on income inequality in this nation. We need to make sure that every person actually has the opportunity to succeed by ending the continual cycle of poverty in America. I urge everyone in the Movement to remain calm and peacefully excercise your right to assembly. Your occupation of Zuccotti Park has made a statment, now work with us, work with me, to take your concerns and make it into a strong fiscal policy.

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Q3: Libya is at the center point of foreign policy in this precise moment on account of the raging civil war and the continued survival of Colonel Gaddafi despite the actions of NATO. Indeed, a few days ago Prime Minister Cameron and President Sarkozy appeared to agree on some key points in intervention. Where do you stand on Libya, and which role do you think the United States should play here?

Clinton: Libya has been a problem for the United States and, really, the free world since Muammar Gaddafi came to power in 1969. The Libyan regime has supported militant forces, invaded other African nations, and caused the deaths of 270 people, including 190 American citizens, through its support of terrorists. The UNSC and NATO have authorized a No-Fly Zone over Libya and we are under an obligation to take part in that mission, as a member-state of the United Nations and NATO, and as a champion for human rights around the globe. The No-Fly Zone and naval blockade are the minimum steps we must take with regard to Libya. The minimum, however, is not what we should do. As the only remaining global superpower, we have an obligation to lead, but not an obligation to go it alone. Within hours of assuming office, I will be in contact with Prime Minister Cameron and President Sarkozy to develop a global course of action. I will not take any option off the table at this time, but I would be strongly resistive of putting American boots on the ground.

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Candidate Question: Senator, one of the key points made by the President lately has been that your challenge causes an unnecessary division inside the Democratic Party, a point of view shared by many of your critics. How do you respond to this?

Clinton: To dismiss my candidacy as "an unnecessary division" to to white wash over the issues in this country. The economy has not recovered; people are loosing their jobs and those with jobs are struggling to pay the bills and put food on the table. Healthcare has not been fixed; there are people dying in their homes because they cannot afford to see a doctor or to fill a prescription. Iraq has not been stabilized; our soldiers, the Middle East, and the world are less secure and less safe now than they were when this President took office. My campaign is not an unnecessary division, it is completely necessary to give a voice to the voiceless and to remind this President that he is responsible to the American people, that they will hold him to account for his shortcomings.

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Closing Statement

Clinton: My campaign isn't about making life easy for the Democratic Party or for this President. My campaign is about giving a voice to the American people who this President has ignored. My campaign is about delivering people the hope and change that this President promised them, but failed to come through on. My campaign is about finally breaking the highest glass ceiling in the world and finally proving to every little girl in America that yes, you can become President if you're a girl. I'm not running for President of the Democratic Party, I'm running for President of the United States of America and I'm going to do what's in the best interest of this country. I've done it my entire career and I'm not going to stop now. People know who I am and what I stand for, and I stand by my record of accomplishment and progress.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 03, 2018, 08:08:08 PM
Carolla responds to Congressman Upton’s Obamacare comments in the debate

Mr Upton what you just said is basically you want a diet Obamacare.

No there is nothing good about Obamacare what so ever.  Like I said earlier it is a tax basically disguised as a healthcare bill.

What you are basically saying is that you side with President Obama’s on healthcare mostly.

Doesn’t matter if you said you want to partly reform it. There will still be lots of taxes,  premiums and regulations.

Is that what you really want?




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 03, 2018, 08:13:16 PM
Feingold 2012

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September 1-30

September 1-5: After declaring his candidacy in Wisconsin, Feingold traveled to Iowa, where he announced that he would be seeking to increase subsidies to farmers, as well as declaring his intention to pass laws preventing major companies from taking farmland from those who own it currently. He also met with local progressive leaders to secure their backing for his campaign

September 6-10: Feingold would spend this time in New Hampshire, announcing his belief that the state would be open to the ideas of a progressive administration, as well as his admiration for the state's independent streak and support for the idea of universal education, a pet project of former NH governor John Lynch.

September 11-18: Feingold would spend nearly all of this period travelling between the New England states, rallying support in particular from College campuses and working class Democrats in the state. He also attended a Jewish service in Vermont, attempting to make a play for the Jewish vote in the states before heading to new York for a surprise appearance

September 19-20
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Feingold went to Zucotti Park and met with activists from the Occupy Wall Street movement, expressing his desire for increased banking regulation and the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act, while simultaneously expressing disappointment with the Dodd-Frank Act, which he called "watered down". He also recruited several campaign volunteers from the activists.

September 21-25: Feingold would spend these days in Nevada, meeting with voters not just from Las Vegas, but also the state's rural population. He hit the same notes he did in Iowa about restricting major corporations from buying off land owned by individuals. In addition, he expressed interest in the idea of a considerable middle and working lass tax cut, while increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

September 26-30: Feingold spent this time touring the southern states, visiting many impoverished areas and college campuses, firmly staking his ground in the states. He met with many community leaders in the southern states as well, attempting to make a play for the black vote through meetings with local leaders.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 03, 2018, 08:13:57 PM
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Mitt Romney First Debate Responses

1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

I think all of us on stage tonight can agree that Obamacare poses a great threat to both the health of Americans as well as their wallets. Other candidates will tonight tell you that perhaps they alone have the solution to the healthcare problem. That is what President Obama told us back in 2008, and that strategy never works.

As Governor of Massachusetts, one of the bluest states in the nation, I worked with a legislature that was over 85% Democrat to pass healthcare reform that cut down on unnecessary spending, reduced the number of people gaming the system, and increased the quality of care statewide. There’s a reason Massachusetts has some of the best healthcare in the nation, and that’s because of state-based innovation and pragmatic policy solution.
As President I would simply initiate a repeal of Obamacare to allow our states to have the freedom they need to create plans best for their own constituents. I want to give Medicaid back to the states in the form of block grants so that more effective localized policy can be created, and I believe that folks that are either self-insured or are working for a small business get the same tax-credits that folks that get coverage from their companies do. I also believe that if you have insurance and a pre-existing condition, nothing should stop you from keeping your insurance in the future.

Barack Obama may have given the American people a headache when he passed Obamacare, but I have decades of experience fixing headaches, including in Massachusetts. Americans need someone who has a proven track record of getting the job done, and I think I am the candidate that fits the bill.

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

You’ve heard some of my opponents on this stage talk give empty promises or resumes on why they are the most qualified candidate to create jobs in America. I’d like to give you my resume, America, and let you decide who you trust to turn around our 9% unemployment rate and economic malaise.

While I worked in private industry I created over 100,000 jobs through responsible business tactics and smart policy. I come from a family of building businesses from the ground up, and know what Americans currently running their own businesses go through when it comes to hiring and regulation. No other candidate on this stage has a private industry track record or know-how that we need for job growth.

As Governor of Massachusetts I also created over 100,000 jobs even as the state came out of economic turmoil. I know that in the government the best thing that we can do is get out of the way of Americans who know what’s best for their businesses and their own futures and let the economy grow. That’s why I have a plan to create 12 million new jobs. America must take advantage of its natural resources, be they oil, natural gas, renewable energy, or nuclear energy, and gain our energy independence. That’s four million jobs right there. We need to expand trade responsibly, ensuring that America is not being taken advantage of in international deals. Right now, Latin America is turning to China as a trade ally because the US is looking the other way. If I were elected, we’d be talking to our allies the next day to bring billions of dollars and millions more jobs to America. Finally, we need to ease the tax burden on hardworking Americans. Some of my peers have touted a lower corporate tax, which while needed ignores the real folks we should be caring about. Lower taxes for small business, simpler regulatory codes, and right-to-work laws will help kickstart a part of our economy the Obama administration has sadly ignored.

America, I ask this of you. Look to a tested and tough track record of job creation in both the public and private sectors, and look to a plan that works for you by giving you the freedom that our current government won’t.

1.- To Governor Romney: Governor, one of the main concerns launched towards you has been your perceived political shift since 2008, some arguing either your stances back then or those now are based on convenience. What would you reply to that?

It’s easy for my opponents to pick examples of me disagreeing with something I said years ago — that’s because I’ve been creating policy for nearly a decade now. And sure, I’ll admit that not everything I’m talking about now is the same as it was when I was governor, or even back in 2008, but that doesn’t mean I’m an opportunist, it means I’ve learned.

In 2008, America was in a much different place than it was today. We were looking headfirst into a financial crisis of magnitude unknown and were on the tail end of wars still unfinished. back then, I was fresh out of office and running to be your president. While I may be back in 2011 doing the same thing, things have changed.

My opponents will try to paint me as a flip-flopper or as an opportunist, but changing opinions over time is the reasonable thing to do. Americans should not elect a President who is so conceited they can’t admit when they’re wrong, or see other points of view. Americans should elect a President who has their ears open, is listening to the people, and is unafraid to say they don’t know everything. I believe my experience in the public and private sector makes me uniquely qualified to help heal America in its current state of recession, but my experience has also taught me to be open, pragmatic, and ready to hunt for solutions that are actually the best for our country, not solutions someone has blindly stuck to for years.

America, would you trust your doctor if he or she said they hadn’t changed their practices in 20 years? Would you trust the builder of your house if they refused to follow new building codes because they believed the old ones were still “right”? I wouldn’t. I also wouldn’t trust a politician that was too stubborn to listen to the American people and make changes that are in the best interests of our country, and I don’t think you would either.

So no, whatever shifts I’ve made in my political ideology aren’t for my personal benefit, but so that I can best respond to the needs of the American people, something that should be every politician’s goal.

Closing Statement:


This election gives you, the American people, and important choice. Our country today stands not much stronger than it did at the start of our crisis three years ago. Unemployment is high, job growth is low, and morale is shrinking. Luckily, our Democracy gives you options on how you want your country to be run, and if you don’t like the way America has looked these last four years, you have the power to choose the America you want to see.

I see an America that by 2020 has 12 million new jobs and a record of job growth in the hard-hit middle and lower classes. I see an America that believes in itself again. I see an America that once again puts freedom in the hands of its people, not locked away by the government. I see an America, where I can live knowing that our kids and grandkids will be able to prosper, not be saddled by government debt and economic stagnation.

Over the course of tonight you’ve heard a lot of different visions for our country, and a lot of different people who promise to achieve them. No other candidate on this stage or on the Democrat’s stage has a record of success and growth in both the public and private sector like I do, and I believe that sets me apart in why I should serve as your President.

In this crucial election, Americans need to have someone they can trust to represent them in the White House. Compare my resume and my policies to my opponents, and I think you’ll find that person.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 03, 2018, 08:42:12 PM
Carolla responds to Congressman Upton’s Obamacare comments in the debate

Mr Upton what you just said is basically you want a diet Obamacare.

No there is nothing good about Obamacare what so ever.  Like I said earlier it is a tax basically disguised as a healthcare bill.

What you are basically saying is that you side with President Obama’s on healthcare mostly.

Doesn’t matter if you said you want to partly reform it. There will still be lots of taxes,  premiums and regulations.

Is that what you really want?




Mr.Carolla, I ask you, do you want Americans dying because they cannot afford healthcare? Do you want the people you know dead, because they couldn't afford a procedure? I may not have voted for it originally but as President Obama has said Yes We Can! and what I will say is that if we want a return of the America of the hardworking dying in the streets, because companies raise prices through the roof, Go with Carolla, but if you want Answers, Go with me Carolla says things people like, but I say things that will happen. We can't do them maybe if we had 400 Representatives and 100 Senators in Congress, but I ask him We don't get better with single party control, we get worse I do support taxing every American who can afford to be taxed but I don't support taking money out of the pockets of those who need it the most, I don't see any solution offered by you to fix this broken economy, but like the members of the occupy movement some people many of them work hard for their entire lives, but they can't do anything about rising unemployment they are the silent majority and we need to fix the problems this country has, I am offering Solutions, YOU ARE JUST OFFERING PROBLEMS!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 03, 2018, 09:04:54 PM
Feingold's debate responses:

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1.- The main question at the heart of America right now is what seems like an impending recession due to the continued drop in the Dow Jones, leading many to fear what will happen if the economic crisis started four years ago continues to extend in time. What is your plan to revive the American economy?

First off, this crisis is the fault of George Bush, who passed irresponsibly large tax cuts while sending us into two major wars. The problem is that we haven't reinstated Glass-Steagall or even tried to increase taxes on the wealthiest of our citizens; people that are responsible for what many would say is outright theft.

In the aftermath of the crisis, we tried bailing the banks out. What happened? The CEOs took the money given to them by the taxpaying public, and used it to pay themselves huge bonuses and lobby Congress to kill any major reform, then they turned around and blamed immigrants, the poor and even teachers. That is not how the economy, nor our government, should work.

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2.- There has been a lot of coverage on the recent takeover of a park near Wall Street by thousands of protestors, now starting to be known as "Occupy Wall Street". Their sudden apperance has been seen by some as a counterpoint to the so called Tea Party movement, but what is your personal take on this movement?

What do you want me to say? Progressives like myself have been saying for years this would happen if we didn't toughen up on our banking sector. We were laughed at, told that it would never happen and told to get back in line. We sounded the warnings, and were ignored, so now, people are angry.

These people are sick and tired of being treated like pawns by a banking industry that genuinely doesn't care and by a government who gives off the impression that they don't care. THey're angry, and their anger is righteous. Moreover, they have a right to be there, and having been there with them, I can see they are there for the right reasons, despite what our opponents on the right say. They deserve to have their issues addressed, and as the progressive candidate, I ask for their support.

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3.- Libya is at the center point of foreign policy in this precise moment on account of the raging civil war and the continued survival of Colonel Gaddafi despite the actions of NATO. Indeed, a few days ago Prime Minister Cameron and President Sarkozy appeared to agree on some key points in intervention. Where do you stand on Libya, and which role do you think the United States should play here?

I stand opposed to our intervention in Libya. Have we not learned from our intervention in Iraq? We were told it would be in and out. Instead, we've been bogged down in a counterinsurgency operation for a decade. You can't just go in to these countries and try to install a Western-style democracy without dismantling the strcutures they've lived by for years.

With regards to Colonel Gaddafi, I only say that he has dismantled his nuclear weapons. Saddam did the same before we invaded. Is it a coincidence that other countries which have nuclear weapons aren't targets of an invasion by us?

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4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, much has been made about the concerns of progressive Democrats towards President Obama. Where do you think the President has failed progressives?

Where do I start? He failed to deliver on his promise of universal healthcare despite running on it and wasted a chance to be tough on Wall Street. Finally, both examples notably happened when we had a majority in Congress. These are not the markers of a President who fights for what they believe in. Instead, we get what I argue is a more hawkish policy than George Bush, and a public policy of saying one thing then doing another. The same can be applied to Senator Clinton.

I am very disappointed with the President. The progressive wing cannot be taken for granted anymore, and my colleagues up here need to understand that.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 03, 2018, 09:10:26 PM
Phil Bredesen responds to Obama during the Debate

Mr. President are you calling me too conservative to address the concerns the of the average Democrat and of the American people? Alright then, ask Tennessee if I was too conservative for them. Ask my large amount of supporters in multiple cities if I'm too conservative for them. Ask your own vice president, Joe Biden, if he is too conservative for you. I now ask you, Mr. President, was Bill Clinton, a man who gave us a large national surplus and revived our Nation's legacy after Bush Sr., too conservative for the American people or the average democrat? Was John F. Kennedy, one of the greatest president's in our nation's history despite having a short term due to his very unfortunate assassination, too Conservative for the average Democrat and the American people? The answer is no, Mr. President, none of them were. I don't disagree with you on Feingold, that we can both agree on *chuckles* But, there is no denying that it is because of your performance as President that the Democrats lost Congress in the 2010 Midterms. It's because of you that we are dealing with an ascendant republican party filled with people who are either unknown, crazy, RINOs, or just plain racist. It's because of you that the Democratic party has lost it's touch with blue collar workers, after all, you are enacting 'Change' within this party.

I want to bring the Democrats into a more centrist position, so we can actually have a discussion with the Republicans and actually get laws passed by congress. What you're doing is ensuring that that won't happen unless something really big happens. Mr.President, the way you've handled the Democratic party the last 4 years is downright disturbing. If you were around and running for office while many Democrats still agreed with the ideals of Clinton...sorry, not you Hillary, I meant Bill... that you would have been ousted very quickly and be made a mockery. Ever since John Kerry, who you made Secretary of State, may I remind you, ran for President in 2004, the party has become more progressive, more Liberal. Mr. President, the Democratic party is in a state of disrepair and you are the cause.

As president, I will try and fix the party that you have broken but now, all because of you, I doubt I'll be able to do much. Also, for this I must say, Why do you constantly talk about 'Change' if you never do it?

Also, on your jobs idea, I agree with you on stopping outsourcing by lowering the corporate tax rate, the one that your predecessor set and you have failed to change in any significant way. But I also have to ask one more thing about it. Why are you so dead set on Alternative energy? We have plenty of Energy with coal and oil and I agree, they're both bad for the planet, don't think I'm lying when I say that, but, why phase them out completely? In west Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania, there are still people who are making their livelihoods off of those mines that you plan to shut down. I instead propose a mixture of both Alternative energy and Fossil Fuels in our economy. Let's say 52% Alternative Energy and 48% Fossil fuels.

Finally, Mr.President, don't attack me on economic issues. Look at how Tennessee thrived during the Economic recession. Look at how it is still going strong only a year after I left. Now compare that to your Economy. Big difference, right? I rest my case.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 03, 2018, 09:18:58 PM
Carolla responds to Congressman Upton’s Obamacare comments in the debate

Mr Upton what you just said is basically you want a diet Obamacare.

No there is nothing good about Obamacare what so ever.  Like I said earlier it is a tax basically disguised as a healthcare bill.

What you are basically saying is that you side with President Obama’s on healthcare mostly.

Doesn’t matter if you said you want to partly reform it. There will still be lots of taxes,  premiums and regulations.

Is that what you really want?




Mr.Carolla, I ask you, do you want Americans dying because they cannot afford healthcare? Do you want the people you know dead, because they couldn't afford a procedure? I may not have voted for it originally but as President Obama has said Yes We Can! and what I will say is that if we want a return of the America of the hardworking dying in the streets, because companies raise prices through the roof, Go with Carolla, but if you want Answers, Go with me Carolla says things people like, but I say things that will happen. We can't do them maybe if we had 400 Representatives and 100 Senators in Congress, but I ask him We don't get better with single party control, we get worse I do support taxing every American who can afford to be taxed but I don't support taking money out of the pockets of those who need it the most, I don't see any solution offered by you to fix this broken economy, but like the members of the occupy movement some people many of them work hard for their entire lives, but they can't do anything about rising unemployment they are the silent majority and we need to fix the problems this country has, I am offering Solutions, YOU ARE JUST OFFERING PROBLEMS!

Mr Upton your solution is not a very good one!  The thing is that the government has too much control over business. There is so much red tape like I said earlier you could fill have a room with it.

And yes we can afford my healthcare plan if we cut enough regulations and spending to pay for it.  

We spend too much money on things. Look at the money spent on common core. Its a total waste its a total joke that could be money going into reforming Medicare or Medicaid or into my healthcare system.

If you got to my website and you can look at my budget plan and you will see how we can afford it.

You are abandoning free market principals  and falling into the trap of what Obama and the democrats want you to think.

Obamacare is just one step closer to socialized medicine!

And yes I can be able to get it pass if and when we take back the senate.

Mr Upton look at the country of  Singapore . That is what I want to model my healthcare plan on. In Singapore there is competition, Harley any taxes or regulations and it is one of the best received health care systems in the world. So if its works there imagine what could it do in America.
  


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 03, 2018, 09:36:41 PM
Carolla responds to Romney's answer on the second question

While your dad was in the Nixon administration  I grew up in Los Angeles's San Fernando Valley in the seventies. I was the product of separation. I would have been the product of divorce but divorce includes filling out paperwork and paying a county clerk sixty bucks to file it.

I lived with my mom who was jobless until I was about a preteen. I was lucky to have a meal at school. It was a horrible experience. I couldn't really live life till then when I moved in with my dad.

And I just am very lucky you know that I turn out to be this way a successful career like mine.

I started from the bottom and now I am at the top while you Mr Romney your dad was worth almost 200$ million dollars and was a CEO of a big corporation.

And you say your business was built from the bottom? That is insulting to me.



  


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 03, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Governor Jindal's Debate Responses

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1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

First, I'd like to thank Lumine for hosting this great debate.

But next, I'd like to show America that unlike other candidates, I don't just chant "repeal Obamacare!" I have a real plan once Obamacare is repealed. But first, let me quickly explain why we need to replace Obamacare, as it seems that explanations for Obamacare are in short supply.

The main problem with Obamacare is that to fulfill the requirements of making it a universal health care system, it uses charges and taxes to achieve this. A good example of this is the individual mandate. This makes Americans who currently don't have health insurance and don't or can't buy health insurance pay a fee to the IRS. Originally, the fee was capped at $280 a year. However, the fee will in the future be capped at just over $2000 a year, which many poor Americans can't afford. And the total costs to taxpayers over a decade will reach three trillion dollars. Another problem is that health care providers are simply pulling out of regional exchanges due to the costs imposed by Obamacare to maintain them. And with less insurers, there is less choice, and less choice is bad for competitiveness and citizens.

So how can we replace this system? Well, the simplest way would just be to wipe out Obamacare and leave healthcare to the free market. However, this does not ensure that citizens will get the best health coverage, as rising health care costs would come back like they were before Obamacare was implemented. Between 1975 and 2005, health care costs rose 2% faster than normal economic growth (per-person).

This is where my plan comes through. First, my plan would include refundable tax credits to offset the cost of paying for a new health care system while still being able to maintain it. Obamacare does nothing to address taxpayers' concerns, but my plan will. And, to ensure that those who use the system more get more back, these tax credits increase with age. But in addition to credits, there would also be a cap on the employer exemption, so that Americans can know that they have the freedom to choose where they want their insurance from without penalty of cost, but also the government would not go farther in debt. This is all the time I have for know, but I will explain more of my system in-depth on the campaign trail.

2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

As Governor of Louisiana, I made sure that our unemployment stayed well below the national average during the recession. It never went over 7.8%, while the nation exceeded 10%. During that same period, Louisiana added over 78,000 new jobs and our private sector job growth was 5%, which ranked us in the top five states in the nation. Our year-over-year job count has grown for 47 consecutive months. Our total non-farm paid employment is at our state's highest total in history. And this has attracted growth. More people are moving to Louisiana than are moving away. And these newcomers are getting well-paid jobs, too. This has increased our state's average personal income by 15%, and is also at the state's highest level in history. More than $54 billion worth is being spent in our state now since I took office. Thousands of new jobs are being created in all cities in Louisiana, such as Lake Charles and Monroe, every day. How did I do this? I cut taxes, not only for businesses, but for average Americans also. And this is why both businesses and people are moving to my state. I plan to implement the same tax cuts on a larger scale, if elected President. I could keep going on listing my job record as Governor, but I think it's pretty clear. If you want jobs, you want Jindal.

3.- Governor, one of your most famous moments in the public eye has been your response to President Obama a couple of years ago, which was remarkably criticized as a poor media appearance and casted doubts on your ability as a candidate. Can you assure voters you can avoid repeating that experience?

I'll do one thing a lot of politicians won't do. I'll own up to my mistake. I was new to the political scene and I did not take enough time to prepare for the response. But in the weeks after, I soon learned failure is the beginning of success. And, in fact, while I would have loved for the response to turn out perfectly and for me to have boosted my national profile, I don't think I would be in the place I am now without that experience. I learned key lessons not only to apply to making speeches, but also in life. And I can say, because of that, I am far better prepared for holding the office of President than those who have not suffered a failure in the same manner, because they have not learned the same life experiences I have. In fact, I recommend all presidential candidates bomb a response to the State of the Union! (laughs) In all seriousness, I'd like to say two things to all of you who are concerned about my fitness as a presidential candidate based solely upon a speech I made three years ago. I have changed as person and a candidate since then, so don't expect the same failure. And more importantly, don't judge a book by its cover.

Response to Senator Chambliss:

First of all, Senator, you say that you "outed me" and that your comments were "founded in truth." Is fabricating a story that I was not born in America, when in fact I was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the truth? Second, you say that you have "some more information regarding Governor Jindal that will be released shortly." Is this a threat? America, this is the kind of man Senator Chambliss is. He first not only makes up complete lies to support his racist remarks, but he next threatens this campaign with a "release of information." Are these the qualities you want in a president, America? Do these qualities represent honesty and truth, two critical qualities in a person who will be the leader of the free world? Here's my rebuttal to the Senator: release whatever "information" you have. I'm not concerned. America will see right through it.

Closing statement

America, when we ended the last campaign for President, we thought we would see radical change. We thought our nation would be far improved by now. Well, we're now at the end of the President's term. And we can see that Obama's administration has failed the American people. He has changed America, but for the worse. Unemployment is at record highs, our economy is in shambles, and Obama is destroying our nation's standing in the world. We are no longer a world superpower; instead, other nations are dictating where our jobs and products will go. Now, I'm supposed to explain to you why I'm a better choice for president than the rest of these people on this stage. But I'll admit, almost all of these people on this stage will be a better option than Obama or one of his far-left opponents. But my Republican opponents are just "good enough". Let's not settle for "good enough". Choose a candidate that will create real change in America. Choose a candidate that will look out for all Americans, no matter how much money you have in your wallet. Choose a candidate that will rebuild our nation from the ground up, by proposing a real replacement for Obamacare and making sure that true conservative values will be back in government, while making sure that we will be cooperative in getting these values through. Choose a candidate that won't work for themselves, but for America. And most importantly, choose a candidate that will defeat the Democrats, and Obama, in 2012.

I am this candidate. And this is why I humbly ask for your vote, no matter what state you live in. Thank you.


The information was "chickengate" governor.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 03, 2018, 10:46:29 PM
Governor Jindal's statement on recent accusations by Senator Chambliss

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Charleston, South Carolina
September 1, 2011

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Hello Charleston, and hello South Carolina!

cheers

Well, I think we all know why we're here today.

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When Senator Chambliss threatened this campaign with some exposé on me during the debate, I was very confused. I thought, "I don't have anything to hide. What could he possibly have found?" Well, lo and behold, he found nothing. Instead, he completely fabricated a disgusting attack against me which I need not repeat, and at the same time completely wasted the American people's time. I mean, look at the Photoshop job on that photo!

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But not the content or the manner in which he presented the fake allegations against me surprises me. What does surprise me is how much disrespect he has not only for South Carolinians, when he made his speech in Myrtle Beach, but also for all Americans. What should be a thoughtful, policy-oriented, and most of all truthful campaign so that the American people can exercise their democratic right to choose a competent leader to take charge of such a great nation, has turned into a game for Senator Chambliss. He has abused his time in the national spotlight to disregard a sacred process undertaken by Americans.

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I know. But the American people won't stand for this anymore! I ask of the supporters of Senator Chambliss to take a long and hard look at their candidate. And if you don't like what you see, give me a call.

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That's all I have to say. Now let's get to work, showing all of America that there's a better option on the ballot. And that option is this campaign! Thank you Charleston, thank you South Carolina, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 03, 2018, 11:33:56 PM
Gov. Romney's Response to Mr. Carolla

Mr. Carolla, you are right. I was incredibly fortunate to come from a family with wealth and opportunity.  My father, however, came from a much different background. My dad was born in Mexico to Mormon parents whose homes came under fire from raiding and marauders. When he moved to Utah as a teenager he worked in the fields to help his family and his schooling. My father started from nothing, but believed in America just as you did. He sold paint during his honeymoon with my mother to finance it, and took that entrepreneurial spirit to Michigan, where I was born.

My father taught me and my siblings that just because we had more than our neighbors didn't make us better than them, nor did it give us an excuse to not work hard. My dad taught us the same things he learned chasing the American dream -- perseverance, hard work, and hope.

Mr. Carolla, I'm sure you can relate to my father's entrepreneurial spirit, and with his quest to find the American dream. It gave him a chance to give his kids a better life, just as it has for you. I acknowledge that I grew up more fortunate than most, but I think we can agree on this: no matter who we are or where we came from, the American dream we fight for is foundationally rooted in freedom. Economic freedom and civil liberty. This is why I think we need a Republican in the White House in 2012, so we can bring these freedoms back to Americans trying to make their American Dream happen, for folks like my dad and you who knew what this country had to offer.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 03, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Mr.Carolla, do you know how many people live in Singapore? 5 million, thats 1/60th of the United States Population, and correct me if I am wrong, but Singapore is also a fraction of the size of the United States both Geographically and Economically. You sound like a Democrat right now, I want to be like Scandinavia. I don't want to live in Singapore because I am an American, I dont know much about Singapore it could be a beautiful country, but I dont care because this is America and we don't need to be like Singapore, you're proposing things that we don't know if they will work we know now ObamaCare does work and it helps millions of people from Alabama to Michigan to West Virginia.  


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 04, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
Mr.Carolla, do you know how many people live in Singapore? 5 million, thats 1/60th of the United States Population, and correct me if I am wrong, but Singapore is also a fraction of the size of the United States both Geographically and Economically. You sound like a Democrat right now, I want to be like Scandinavia. I don't want to live in Singapore because I am an American, I dont know much about Singapore it could be a beautiful country, but I dont care because this is America and we don't need to be like Singapore, you're proposing things that we don't know if they will work we know now ObamaCare does work and it helps millions of people from Alabama to Michigan to West Virginia.  

No you are the Democrat. You are on a Republican stage in bunch of Republican talking about how Obamacare is great and how you want European style socialism where there is big government regulations and a 90% tax rate and strict gun laws

Is that what you want?  You just sound like a Democrat!. And im saying America should be Singapore what I am saying is America’s healthcare should be like Singapore’s!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 12:19:27 AM
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Campaign Schedule, September 2011


Constants:
ALWAYS visit small towns and hold town halls and local events
ALWAYS visit college campuses and meet with campus political groups, both Republican and non-partisan
ALWAYS try to eat lunch at local restaurants, with locals
ALWAYS do research on new small towns, including local leaders, issues, etc. so that I am able to talk about local issues an connect with voters
ALWAYS visit small businesses and talk to workers, owners, etc.
ALWAYS keep note of who I meet, and bring them up in future speeches and debates
ALWAYS talk to anyone who wants to, no matter who they are or what their political affiliation is

Schedule:
September 1-6: Iowa
September 7-10: New Hampshire
September 11: New York City
September 12-13: New Hampshire
September 14-19: South Carolina
September 20-25: Florida
September 26-30: Nevada

Iowa (Sept. 1-6)
Hold rallies in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Davenport, Dubuque
Drive between destinations, emphasize meeting constituents in small-towns across the state
Eat meals with locals, visit farms, factories, workshops, college campuses
Emphasize job growth, economic freedom

New Hampshire (Sept. 7-10, 12-13)
Hold rallies in Concord, Manchester
Travel across state, visiting small-town constituents and holding town halls
Eat meals with locals, visit farms, factories, workshops
Tout record in Massachusetts, New England ties
Emphasize individual freedoms and liberties

New York City (Sept. 11)
Visit 9/11 memorial
Break from campaigning

South Carolina (Sept. 14-19)
Hold rallies in Charleston, Columbia
Travel between small towns, visit SC State
Emphasize Obamacare repeal, tour hospitals and talk to workers, administrators

Florida (Sept. 20-25)
Hold Rallies in Miami, St. Petersburg/Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville
In Miami: emphasize being tough on the Castro regime, and criticize Obama’s lax policies
Drive through state, starting at Miami to Jacksonville
Emphasize: Obamacare, foreign policy

Nevada (Sept. 26-30)
Hold Rallies in Las Vegas, Reno, Carson City
Focus on: immigration, job growth, renewable energies


To campaign staff: Focus on volunteer recruitment efforts and staffing at state HQs, especially in the first contests. In early stages of outreach, spread the word about Romney’s background, credentials, and vision for America.

Speeches and specific details will be posted throughout the turn.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 12:50:21 AM
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Interview with CNN
September 8, 2011

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REPORTER: "Governor Romney, I'm sure you've heard the claims lobbied against your opponent Mr. Jindal, both of his birthplace and of his alleged relations with chickens (both laugh). Do you have anything to say about these?"

GOV. ROMNEY: "Governor Jindal is a good friend of mine, first of all, and I'm happy to see him running. To address your question, I think questioning Bobby's place of birth is both offensive and not grounded in any form of reality. Governor Jindal is just as American as anyone else in this great nation, no matter where their family is from, and for Senator Chambliss to argue anything otherwise is by all means wrong. I don't want to waste time on his other claims about Governor Jindal, but I think we can all agree that they are both ridiculous, disgusting, and equally baseless. This campaign should be about kick-starting America, not childish lies and accusations."





Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 01:14:49 AM
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Bedford, New Hampshire
September 12th, 2011

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"... I've talked to quite a few folks across this great state since I began my campaign in July. An issue that keeps getting brought up to me that I simply did not anticipate is the struggle of many communities with addiction to prescription painkillers or opioids. So I did some research. In the past year the CDC reports overt 15,000 deaths nationwide due to prescription painkiller and opioid addiction, numbers that have been rising exponentially in the past decade. So I did some more research, and to my complete shock nobody has been talking about this. Nobody in New Hampshire, and especially not anybody in Washington.

It's becoming clear to me the more I campaign just how many issues are swept under the rug under this administration in an attempt to make things seem better than they are. If I am elected as your next President, these issues will be tackled, and they will be fixed. As Governor of Massachusetts I supported federal efforts to stop the flow of drugs from South America and Mexico. It's clear that isn't enough. We need internal policy that increases education on addictive substances like opioids, and change in our health sector that stops prescribing those in pain with substances that kill them. Neither Obama or Obamacare is doing that. The great people of New Hampshire and the United States deserve someone that will fight for them and listen to them."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 01:37:07 AM
Romney 2012 Ad #1
"Believing in America: The Romney Story"

Air in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, Florida

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My father, George Romney, was born into a family of little wealth at the turn of the 20th century, but that didn't stop him.
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After working in the fields to help his family earn money, he met my mother Lenore. Life wasn't easy, though.
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My dad sold paint on his honeymoon to pay for it, and never spent a day of his life without that same energy that he dedicated to chasing the American Dream so that his kids could have a better life.
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When I was young, he instilled that same work ethic in me, a mentality that if you want something, you have to work for it. That's me on the left (chuckles).
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I took that work ethic to the Salt Lake City Olympic Games, and to Massachusetts, where as Governor I created 100,000 jobs and balanced the state budget.
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Now I want to take that same dedication to the Presidency, where I know that when we believe in the potential of America, we can create a future where just like my father, anyone can chase and find the American Dream.
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Let's make it happen, America. I know that if we work together, we can accomplish whatever we put our minds to. I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 04, 2018, 05:50:27 AM
Upton 2012 First AD
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Ad plays in Michigan New Hampshire and Iowa

Hello, Im Fred Upton, and I have been a US congressman for 26 years, that may sounds like a long time, but with the Partisan Deadlock in Congress we have barely gotten anything done, Im not here to blame the democrats only though. Simple Solutions is something people and the right and left want to hear, but we can't get those through, why? Not because we don't want to, but because Republicans and Democrats are more focused on getting reelected then getting solutions for every person in their district.




*cut to Upton and his Family including Kate*




isn't that what our country is really about family, not partisan issues, but we need to focus on not just fighting for Labor rights, and education, but making sure that the American Tax Payer can afford it all. I will not say that it is all Democrats faults as in 2008 when President Obama took office,
 the average household income was lower then it had been 8 years earlier under President Clinton.
 We don't need to settle these issues by Blue state or Red state we need to settle them by getting the American people back to work whether this is in Iowa New Hampshire or even in Southwest Michigan We need the American Manufacturers back to work.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 04, 2018, 07:06:48 AM
Phil Bredesen Ad (set to run in All 50 states from September 27th-October 15th)

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Hi, I'm Phil Bredesen, I'm running for the Democratic Nomination in 2012 and I want to tell you why. I want to ask you something America. for years, we've had to deal with someone who promised a whole lot of change but gave us nothing in return. Our debt hasn't had a dent be hammered into it, Our Economy is still on the rocks, and unemployment is still high in the United States. Sadly, when we gave President Obama the keys to the White House, we gave them to a liar who was able to just completely charm you and not follow on any of his campaign promises. He also refuses to work with both parties, even when it is in the interest of the American people. I'm running for the President because I have the right kind of experience and the actual track record that it will take to work across party lines to fix the lines in Washington and bring common sense back to our government. Before I ran for office, I was a businessman. I was the CEO of a successful public company, this on the New York Stock Exchange, one I started on my kitchen table and grew to 6000 Employees."

"I was a successful Mayor, lots of jobs, revitalized Downtown, the National predators, the Tennessee Titans. When I was sworn in as Governor, Tenncare was out of control and our bond rating was heading south. And then we had the meltdown of the great recession. With a lot of hard choices, we managed our way through all of that. Without an income tax and without raising the sales tax. And we didn't just 'Get through it', we prospered, we put new money in education, especially in teacher's salaries. We brought in new jobs and investment, our rainy day fund hit new highs and we achieved a triple bond rate, one of the best there is. There's no reason the President and congress can't do the same thing. I love the people of America and we need and deserve something better than what we're getting from Washington, and we need and deserve a president who can make that happen. I'm applying for the job.


End of Phil Bredesen 'Why I'm Running' Ad. Uploaded on philbredesenfor2012 .com a few hours later and then added on Youtube. received around 16 million views so far and counting.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 04, 2018, 11:42:30 AM
Adam Carolla campaign ad
A Different Kind Of Tax Plan (A campaign ad that ran in all 50 states
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Hi I’m Adam Carolla you may no me as just another comedian. However I am just more than I am a fighter and a father and a proud Amercian.  

I don’t just say stuff to get votes or to gain popularity I speak from the heart and I think that’s what America wants for a  president.  

I know some of my ideas may not be with you at first glance. However if you take your time and look at it I think you will find your self  in conclusion to agree with them.

As President I will cut everything single unnecessary regulations and taxes on America people and reform our tax code that will favor hard working Americans.  

As a matter of fact here are all the taxes that will be cut. *Carolla holds out a long piece of paper and tears it up bit by bit*
 

I will replace the IRS with a constitutional 15-20% flat tax and make filling out your taxes way easier.

I will balance the budget and recuse the wasteful amount of spending that goes on in Washington and settle that with a balence budget amendment that will set limits on how the government can spend on things.

You might be wonder to yourself. How popular is this?  Well a study at the National tax foundation agree with me that this will create 2 million new jobs and will create economic growth for quite some time.
However I am not running for their approval im running for this country’s

This all and all is just part of the plan to defeat the Washington machine.  

It will shake up Washington and Wall Street no doubt.

And they should fear if this happens

I’m Adam Carolla and I approve this message.

(Carolla’s ad would go viral  overnight and would be the top trending video on YouTube)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 04, 2018, 11:51:21 AM
Phil Bredesen Interview with MSNBC on September 28th

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Reporter: Former Governor, Many Americans are curious about you and your policies. You state you are a blue dog Democrat yet you run on a hand full of ideas that are Republican. Can you please Explain why you are running this way?



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Bredesen: Well, I take after John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton in the political sphere, as I have said many times on the campaign. I was one of a handful of reasons that Tennessee prospered during the Economic recession in 2007 and  did that by being a Democrat with Republican ideas.
 Yes, I may be called a DINO by some politicians like the President but I assure you all I want is to get America and the Democratic party back on track so we can work with the Republicans and improve the Nation.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 01:05:37 PM
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Las Vegas, Nevada
September 29th, 2011

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"...Let me be clear on two things: Immigration to our land of opportunity must be legal, and the system must be fair. I want to tell you a story that I head yesterday in Henderson -- one you yourself may be familiar with.

I was talking to a student by the name of Rosa currently studying Computer Science at Arizona State University. Her family came here when she was very young, and they don't have legal status. Rosa told me that she was afraid to tell me that, because I was a Republican and she thought I'd get her in trouble. I chuckled a little bit and she seemed shocked -- I told her I wasn't going to do that. I asked her what her future plans are, and she told me graduate school, hopefully at an Ivy League. What I saw in Rosa was not someone who came to the United States to game the system or take advantage of our generosity, but a hardworking young woman who believed in America and had the American spirit embedded into her DNA.

Undocumented immigration needs to be fixed, there's no two ways about that. But when I see people like Rosa who regardless of their status come here and work and get an advanced degree, I think we should be stapling the green card right to her diploma.

I don't believe in forcing out all 11 million undocumented people in this country, that's ridiculous. I believe in encouraging undocumented kids to work hard, go to college, and join our military if they want to earn permanent residency. I also believe that we shouldn't be encouraging more people to cross our borders illegally -- which is why I support greater border security and protections, as well as a stronger enforcement of employment laws against undocumented people. If we help keep the folks who came to our country to fight for America, or become vital members of our workforce here, while making common-sense reform to the legal immigration process, we can keep talent here and encourage everyone else to take the legal route. It's not just about making it harder to walk over the border, but easier for the best and brightest to get here legally."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
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Columbia, South Carolina
September 15th, 2011

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GOV. HALEY: "Hello South Carolina! (cheering, applause) It has been my greatest honor to serve as your governor for the past eight months. I promised you that as Governor I would be a fighter for the people of South Carolina, and today I'm proud to be taking that fight to Washington. President Obama has given us a lot of promises but broken every single one. I know just as you do that in 2012 we need someone who will stand up for America, and mend the damage from the Obama years! (more cheering) Mitt has been a friend of mine for a while, and I am honored to be throwing my support behind him to be our next President. Nobody else has had a career quite like Mitt -- whether it's been turning around companies, the Olympic Games, or the state of Massachusetts. I know that when we send him to Washington, he can turn around America, too. That's why I'm proud to introduce to you my friend, and the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney!” (even more cheering)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 04, 2018, 02:07:23 PM
ADAM CAROLLA’s INTERVIEW WITH WOLF BLITZER
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Alright thank you John joins us now is Republican Presidental candidate Adam Carolla who recently put out a viral campaign ad called a Different Kind Of Tax Plan

Glad you are on here.

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Thanks Wolf

Wolf:Your ad displayed a pretty conservative take on tax reform something that is way more out there than the Romney or McCain campaign did back in 2008.

Adam:Well this is just the first of a series I am doing so you ain’t see nothing yet Wolf.  Yes our tax code hasn’t been reformed for almost 30 years. The Republicans not all but some haven’t even cared yet about putting in such a system and yet there they are acting like a typical politician just saying this to get elected.

Wolf:Some criticism of your plans has been that you wouldn’t be able to afford such a Tax Plan and that those taxes help with certain programs in this country.

Adam:Well hear me out Wolf. I live in California one of the most Tax happy states in the country and just look at our roads and infrastructure  they still look broken yet Govenor Brown tells us that all those taxes we are spoused to pay will help with that system and I don’t see it. It’s still the same old broken roads that Brown promised that he would fix and so far he has done nothing.

Our state has tripled our deficit and our government still has result to tax after tax after tax. And that’s what I feel Obama is doing.

So I don’t see the problem with people keeping more of their own money while the Democrats act like its some act of terror or something.

*He pulls out two pieces of paper* I have in my right hand the taxes cut in my Tax Plan and in my left this is Romney’s plan. Look at the difference. My plan would cut not just new taxes but taxes and regulations  from administrations before. While Romney’s just cuts newer taxes and regulations from this administration.  So it’s a big difference.

I also plan to cut the corporate tax by 20-30% so we can finally get the upper hand in  competition with other countries while Romney’s only gets it up to 10 which isn’t good enough.

And I totally believe that we can get this past. You got Forbes and you got Reason magazine calling it the most conservative economic plan since Steve Forbes in 1996 that is quite a big accomplishment right there.

I also mentioned that I would put in a balanced budget amendment. Which there will be more ads about that so don’t worry.

Wolf:Well thank you for being on here and we can’t wait for your town hall with us in Nevada coming soon.




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Romney 2012 Ad #2
"Mr. Fix It"
Air in all early primary and caucus states

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Mitt Romney has been fixing things for decades.
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Through his time at three different companies, Romney created over 100,000 jobs through smart deals and learned how businesses really work.
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At the doomed Salt Lake City Olympic Games, over-budget and embroiled in scandal, Romney used his business know-how to turn the games into a major success, and a source of pride for the country.
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And as Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney fixed the broken state healthcare system and out-of-control spending, balancing the state’s budget and creating jobs.
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After four years of the Obama nightmare, who do you trust to fix the state of our country?
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Our healthcare?
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Our economy?
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Trust Mitt. No other candidate has the decades of experience in business and government that America needs to prosper again.
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ROMNEY: It’s time to fix the crisis we’re in. I’m Mitt Romney, and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 04, 2018, 05:28:28 PM
Carolla Update

Carolla went back to New Hampshire and campaigned on the legalization of marijuana and how that will be a priority on Day 1 and to fight the drug war.

Carolla started setting shop with offices in all major parts of New Hampshire and even part of Vermont and mostly would end up getting big with the younger voters which bought his message of freedom.

Carolla is expected to be the most popular of the Libertarian Republicans.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 04, 2018, 06:43:20 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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Announcement Speech

''It's great to be back here in my old high School in Livingstone. God, if you'd told that the arrogant, headstrong, confident kid that one day he'd be running for President, you know what he'd say, 'don't ever change.' (laughs from the crowd)

That kid knew, like I do now, that the most important task given to us is to stand up and fight. Whether it was the group of bullies that use to parade the halls with their chests puffed out,or the school administrators who use to tell us we couldn't go and study because the Union's were on strike, you need to stand up. Because you know what happens when you stand up; people take notice.

So I want America to take notice of this; I'm Chris Christie, and I'm standing up today to run for President of the United States.

I'm standing up so that that I can fight for every single American  I've had citizens from across the land, from Utah, to Iowa, from New Hampshire, to South Carolina all tell me a simple message; they want someone with the guts to fight. They don't want someone who sounds like he's just left the Harvard debating team, they don't someone who's running a campaign from 2002, they don't want someone who follows Barack Obama's every weak, stumbling turn. They want someone who can fight.

You know I could have sat back in New Jersey, I have a great job as Governor, in the greatest state in the America. But I couldn't watch was happening to my country continue. I couldn't watch as a weak, cowardly President prepared another campaign based on deceit, and I certainly couldn't sit back when I knew that America, more so than any day since 1980, needs someone in the Oval Office, who can fight for the ordinary men, and women, out there, who are just trying to make a buck.

We've got some tremendous challenges out there; a stagnant economy, with job growth grinding to a halt, with another recession just on the horizon. The private sector is shrinking, businesses are failing at a record rate, and you know what's worst of all; it's seeing those people who've lost out, those people who've been harmed by this useless President, it's seeing those people get up every morning, it's seeing the pain in there face knowing that there isn't any work out there. Where is the dignity in that?

But ya know, there is hope. Look at New Jersey. I'm gonna warn ya, you're gonna hear a lot about New Jersey (cheers) I'm sure Mitt is making some poor intern search through every part of our state, but believe me, I'm ready to fight them every step of the way.

Here in New Jersey we've done what Washington has failed to do; we've balanced a budget twice, without raising taxes, and whilst protecting vital services. We've reformed our healthcare, and pension system that was collectively underfunded by $121 billion. We've capped property taxes, and you know what makes me most proud. We've been honest with people. We've told them the truth. We've told them that times will be hard, we've told them that they're not gonna like every decision we make, and we've told them 'the old ways need to change.'

So I'm going to start this campaign by being honest. We need to rein in our out of control entitlement reform. We need to Washington to balance it's budget, we need to break the stranglehold that union bosses have over our kids future and you know what. We need to to crack some heads together, get out the way, and let the private sector create some quality jobs again.

Barack Obama is never going to be honest with America. He's going to appeal to his slice of the electoral. He's going to appeal to the 51% of voters his campaign has worked out to target. He's going to be doing a hell lot of pandering in this primary.

But hold on, I know, it's easy to say that. It's easy for any Republican to stand up here, and talk about how bad President Obama is. In fact, I expect we'll see Hillary Clinton again on stage talking about how bad President Obama is (laughs)

What's hard is to get results. You know I was appointed U.S Attorney just after 9/11. Every single person in this room knows the pain that America felt that day; we know the suffering that our country went through. But we also know what Americans did; they hit back. They got straight back up, and they fought, and they fought, and they fought (cheers). I'm the only candidate running who has stood up in court, and prosecuted terrorists who were trying to kill our brave Troops in Fort Dix. Believe me, when you've stood up in court and sent terrorists behind bars, you're not worried about what the talking heads in Washington say.

Mary-Pat is giving me a look now, she always says that only thing worst than an Attorney, is an Attorney talking about his successful cases. But just remember this, whether it was putting terrorists behind bars, or getting 132 successful prosecutions, I've been there; fighting for America.

But being a U.S Attorney was only the second most important job in my life; the first was to my family, to my brilliant wife Mary-Pat, to my 4 amazing kids and to my folks; my Dad, Bill, standing right behind me, and my wonderful, wonderful mom, Sondra who isn't here today, god rest her.

You know the last time I saw my mom, she was sat in hospital. I held her hand, and you know what she said to me. She told me that 'there was nothing unsaid.'' She knew how much I loved her, and by god, I knew how much she loved me. She begged me, she told me to 'go back to work, to do my duty' and that's why I'm standing here today. I'm standing here today to so that together, we can fight, to get this country back to work.

So please, join our my fight. Join our campaign. Join us to fight for the America we know, and love. Thank you New Jersey!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 04, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
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Freedom Tower, Miami Florida
September 21st, 2011

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"... For two of America's greatest enemies, Fidel and Raul Castro sure do seem to be good friends of Barack Obama! (laughter, booing) Fidel is one of the world's most ruthless dictators, and his brother Raul is really no better. President Obama really does not seem to understand that by helping the Castros, he's not helping the people of Cuba. No! He's helping a sick dynasty of dictators to stay alive! (boos) Let's face it. We need a President who is dedicated to returning to Helms-Burton and who won't go easy on the Castros, because the people of Cuba don't need another generation of suffering! (cheering) I am committed to being the President that sees the Castros out of office, and freedom ringing in Cuba, something I'm sure we can all agree is for the best."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 04, 2018, 09:21:51 PM
Adam Carolla campaign update
September 20th 2011
Carolla flew to Nevada and gave two speeches in a New in Reno and Las Vegas on the horrors of NAFTA and globalism.

And promised to them that when he is president that he would fight gobalism with individualism.

Carolla received a endorsement from several groups of Labor Unions the first in a while for a Republican candidate since Reagan.

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Carolla:If I am elected president the era the economic surrender will be over.  We will never surrender this country or any country of that matter or people to the song of Globalism.

If you are a foreign power and you want to weaken Amercia you couldn’t do better than Obama’s and the Democrats economic agenda.

Under this so called free trade organizations people like the Chinese get richer and the Americans get poorer.
The Skyscrapers went up in Beijing  and other cities in the country while the factories and neighborhoods here especially in Reno crumbled right here.

When we abandon the policy of Amercia first we then started rebuilding other countries instead of our own.

However when and if I become president the era of Economic freedom and Americanism will begin.

*Crowd cheers*







Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 04, 2018, 11:23:18 PM
Wesley Clark on an MSNBC Interview:

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Rachel Maddow:

“You know, I remember back when you ran for the Democratic Nomination in 2004. Why are you running for President again, and also on an Independent ticket?”

General Clark:

“Yenno what Rachel, that’s an excellent question. Yeah, I ran for President eight years ago. I didn’t win, and I believe that’s why you have some of the problems we have today. I, like many Americans don’t give my loyalty to a political party for free. The Democrats haven’t done anything to help the Common man and have led us pretty poorly. President Bush was a disaster, and I don’t want anything close to a third term of him. Just, both parties don’t work for us. That’s obvious. Sure, I could have ran for the Democratic Nomination but I’m running on making things better, not adding to the problem. That being said, I’m aware many Democrats support our movement. They’re tired of talk. They want results, not polished politicians.”

Rachel Maddow:

“With seeing all these wild accusations from the Chambliss campaign, do you have an opinion on it?”

General Clark:

“Absolutely, it’s almost hilarious actually. I thought it was a joke at first, but come on man. We can’t elect someone who participated in the making of such petty, obviously fake accusations. I don’t personally know Governor Jindal, but I hope people can see such a bad photoshop job is fake.”

Rachel Maddow:

“What’s your opinion on the amount of people attending your rallies? Honestly, I’ve seen them and they have such energy. I don’t think I’ve seen such energy for a third party candidate since Ross Perot in 1992.”

Wesley Clark:

“Thank you, Rachel. I believe I’ve struck a tone. A lot of people from both parties are fed up at how ineffective and inadequate they are. People are starting to come out and voice their support for something new, and that’s what I believe about that, and I’m very grateful for it. Both parties don’t really care about helping people, but I do. My whole life I’ve tried to serve my country. It would be such a great honor America, if you elect me to be your president. Thank you Rachel.”



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 02:46:08 AM
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It's time for change. It's time for Jindal.

Campaign schedule for September

Overview:
South Carolina: Sep. 1 - Sep. 8
Florida: Sep. 9 - Sep. 10
New York: Sep. 11
Florida: Sep. 12 - Sep. 15
New Hampshire: Sep. 16 - Sep. 20
Iowa: Sep. 20 - Sep. 25
Nevada: Sep. 26 - Sep. 30

Highlights:

South Carolina ( Sep. 1 - Sep. 8 )
Made speeches in Columbia (kickoff), Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Florence, Greenville, and Rock Hill
Took campaign bus across the entire state, had lunch at many local diners where Jindal meet potential voters
Had 'town hall'-style formats where Jindal would answer questions from the audience on his campaign
Campaigned door-to-door for hours with Senator Lindsey Graham, personally meet voters and talked with them
Tour factories that were impacted by job loss from Obama's administration, talk to the workers
Key policy: bringing jobs back to America, Obamacare repeal plan

Florida ( Sep. 9 - Sep. 10 )
Campaigned in the Panhandle, specifically held rallies in Pensacola, Crestview, Marianna, Tallahassee, Lake City, and Jacksonville
Visited local shops, asked local voters about what they would want in a future president
Ate lunch at diners, where Jindal meet more voters
Went door-to-door knocking, especially in the cities but also the rural areas
Key policy: help Americans hit hard by the recession get back on track, tax reform, immigration

New York ( Sep. 11 )
Suspended campaigning in remembrance of 9/11
Visited the World Trade Center memorial to pay respects

Florida ( Sep. 12 - Sep. 15 )
Resumed campaigning in Florida, this time in the lower section of the state
Made speeches in Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Orlando, Tampa, Fort Pierce, West Palm Beach, Miami, and Fort Myers
Drove campaign bus across the state
Continued grassroots operation of going door-to-door after the speech, meeting and getting to know even more voters, telling them story of how parents came from India, settled here for a better life, pursued the American dream
Ate lunch at local shops and diners, got to know voters better, explained policy to them
Visited hospitals that would be affected by Obamacare repeal, talk with patients, doctors, nurses
Visited the proposed construction site of the high-speed rail line in West Palm Beach and talk with voters about transportation
Visited areas still ravaged by hurricanes, emphasizeed one of the best hurricane response records of any governor or top official during Hurricane Gustav
Key policy: Obamacare plan, hurricane relief, transport, foreign policy

New Hampshire ( Sep. 16 - Sep. 20 )
Held speeches in Nashua, Manchester, Concord, and Franconia
Took campaign bus around the state, talked with and meet many voters
Had lunch at local diners, enjoyed a meal with potential voters, explained policy
Visit factories across the state, talk with voters about economic damage in the past few years
Enjoyed the scenery (with potential voters)
Key policy: factories closing down, job growth, economic liberty

Iowa ( Sep. 20 - Sep. 25 )
Held rallies in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Davenport, Council Bluffs, Sioux City, and Waterloo
Grassroots operation of Jindal knocking door-to-door, getting to know voters
Go through state on campaign bus so that Jindal can meet voters
Ate more lunch with voters, talked policy
Visited factories, shops to talk with voters
Key policy: social issues, bringing agriculture back

Nevada ( Sep. 26 - Sep. 30 )
Hold rallies in Las Vegas, Carson City, Reno, and Elko
Keep the grassroots tradition of talking to voters, getting to know them, by knocking door-to-door
Eat some more lunch in cities across Nevada, another way to get to know voters
Visit factories across the state and meet workers
Drive through state on campaign bus, meeting voters along the way
Key policy: restoring American jobs, helping Americans achieve the American dream, change is on the horizon

Operations:
  • Emphasized a grassroots campaign across every state, and the importance of knocking door-to-door and calling voters, getting the word out
  • Set up ground operations in every state, briefed staff on the campaign
  • Set up structural operations to deal with influx of volunteers across multiple states, including South Carolina, Florida, and Iowa
  • Emphasized to staff to reach out to everyone, no matter their political affiliation
  • Told staff to deliver Jindal's message of change to as many people as possible



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 05, 2018, 03:17:41 AM
Walter Jones 2012: American Principles

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Speaking in Greenville, North Carolina, Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) made the following remarks in his announcement speech for President:

I've decided to run for President of the United States not because I wanted to advance my career or to win special favors from lobbyists. I've had plenty of opportunities before, but I've said no to all of them. This campaign is about saving this great country I grew up in for our children and grandchildren. When we're burdened with this massive debt, people on the streets, perpetual wars, and a corrupt political establishment, ordinary Americans begin to lose hope in our system. They think nothing can be done. I'm here to tell you that this is the moment when we can reverse the tide and take back our country from those who think nothing of it and only for themselves. Together, we will make a difference, and we will win. Thank you, and God bless these United States.




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 05, 2018, 07:18:04 AM

Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Schedule
September 1st-5th: 'Telling it like it is tour', New Hampshire.
September 6th: Rally with Ambassador Huntsman, Manchester, New Hampshire.
September 7th: Returns to New Jersey.
September 8th: Fundraiser with Governor Kasich, and Ambassador Huntsman.
September 8th-11th: Returned to New Jersey to open the 'Empty Sky' Memorial in Liberty State Park.
September 12th-14th: Visit to Cedar Rapid's, Iowa, to open campaign HQ, and hold 6 Town Hall events.
September 15th: Campaign BBQ, and 'meet and greet' with supporters of Governor Christie.
September 16th: Campaign rally in Iowa City, with Governor John Kasich.
September 17th: Town Hall in Manchester, New Hampshire with Mary Pat Christie.
September 17th-19th: Travels to Canada for a Trade Mission.
September 20th: Meets with Henry Kissinger, to discuss Foreign Policy, and other global issues.
September 21st: Gives speech at Rockefeller Centre about Counter-Terrorism.
September 21st-25th: Travels to Texas, Neveda, California, Florida, and Georgia, for fundraising.
September 26th: Launches campaign in Nevada.
September 27-30th: Returns to New Hampshire for another 'Telling it like it is Tour' of Town Halls.



Governor Kasich endorses Governor Christie.

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Ohio Governor John Kasich has endorsed Governor Chris Christie for President today. Citing Governor Christie's 'experience as a U.S Attorney, his common sense reforms in New Jersey, and his unrivaled ability to bring people together' the Governor said he was delighted to support the Governor. Campaigning with Governor Christie in Iowa City, Governor Kasich said that 'Chris is the only guy who can fight for the ordinary men, and women out there.'

Jon Huntsman Jnr, and John Huntsman Snr endorse Governor Christie for President

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Press Release: Ambassador Huntsman endorses Governor Christie

Former Governor of Utah, and Ambassador to China, Jon Huntsman Jnr has endorsed Governor Chris Christie for President. Ambassador Huntsman is a dedicated public servant who has represented America at home and overseas, with proven results. Speaking to reporters Ambassador Huntsman said 'Governor Christie is the only candidate running who is being honest with the American people. He's the only guy who unite our great party, fight the Obama-Clinton Machine and restore the American Dream. I know who I want in the ring fighting for America; and that's Chris Christie.'' Ambassador Huntsman will join the campaign's foreign policy team, and will be a top surrogate for the campaign on both foreign and domestic issues.
 

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Jon Huntsman Snr endorses Chris Christie, and become Campaign Finance Chair.

Businessman, and Philanthropist Jon Huntsman Snr cannoned his endorsement of Governor Chris Christie today, declaring that Governor Christie has 'answered the calls of millions of Americans who are crying out for a fighter in Washington.''. Praising Governor Christie's record in New Jersey, Mr Huntsman said that 'The Governor has a proven record of bringing people together and hammering out solutions' whether that was when he balanced New Jersey's budget twice, or when he reformed the underfunded pension scheme. 



Governor Christie begins 'Telling it like it is' Tour in New Hampshire

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For the next 5 days I'm going to keep this simple. I'm going to be picking up a microphone, packing a bag, and meeting the great folks of New Hampshire. I'm going to be going to Diners, schools, gyms, union halls and veteran homes to talk about how I'm going to fight for Americans. Politicians need to start being honest with voters, and I'm going to start telling voters how we can sort out this mess in Washington.



Town Hall in Rochester, New Hampshire

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''Look I'll be honest with you. It was hard in New Jersey. People told me not to run. We're a deeply blue state. I had a democrat dominated legislature, I had a three failed Democratic Governors before me, the state had been run into the ground. But you know what I didn't give up; I stood up in 2009 and challenge Governor Corzine. I didn't wait for the talking heads in Washington to crown me; I stood up, and you know what, I beat Governor Corzine like a drum. The Democrats in the legislature thought they'd be able to beat me back, but they know now that you don't try and knock Chris Christie over.

Just look what we've done; we've balanced a budget, twice, without a raising taxes. We've fixed our broken pension system. We created 60,000 private sector jobs. We've made Government smaller. We've taken on the unions. God, this is what I've done in just two years in New Jersey. Imagine what we can do in four years (cheers)



Ambassador Huntsman joins Governor Christie in a rally at Manchester
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'You know it's great to be here with the Governor. Believe me, me and Mary, were have been praying that the Governor would enter the race. We're like those thousands of other citizens who know, that we need someone who can fight for us, and we need someone who can win in 2012.
We need someone who has the courage to tell it like it is, who won't follow the polls, who won't tell one thing in Boston, and another in Iowa. We need someone who can speak for all Americans''





Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
Columbia, SC

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September 1, 2011

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Hello South Carolina!

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I'll get straight to the question that many are asking. Why Jindal? Why not Romney, Christie, or Trump? Why not Chambliss?

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Well, I'll tell you why. I'm not running a big, expensive campaign. I'm not letting my campaign be run by Washington insiders. I'm running this campaign for all of you. I'm not going to use a big Super PAC. I'll be using your hard-earned dollars for this campaign.

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But why would I do this? Because I want to make a statement to the Washington insiders. The Jindal campaign is fighting for change. But this change won't just come to the Democrats, it'll also come to the Republicans, too! If we're going to defeat Obama, if we're going to make real change, let's change all of Washington, for the American people! I'll be using unorthodox methods in this campaign. I'll be knocking door-to-door to get this message of change out to all Americans. I'll be speaking to every person I meet. Now, let's all start showing America a better alternative! Because it's time for reform. It's time for change. It's time for Jindal!

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Thank you Columbia, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 05, 2018, 01:56:48 PM
Debate Answers

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1.)It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

Look, we gotta be honest with people. And I'll be simple; if I'm elected President I'll repeal Obamacare, and repeal it with

The healthcare system is broken under Obamacare. And the healthcare system was broken before Obama came. Heck the healthcare system was broken when Nixon tried to reform it in the 70s. You  know why it's been broken; because republicans have been too damn afraid of being honest.

We pay too much for our healthcare, our premiums keep increasing at record highs, we haven't carried out meaningful Tort reform, to stop the ambulance chasing lawyers that give millions to the Democratic party. America can do so much better.

So I'll tell you what my healthcare plan would do; I'd repeal both the individual and employer mandate, the second of which is crippling our ability to create good, long term jobs. I'd get rid of the tax hikes that Obamacare put in, and I'd begin to reform Medicaid and Medicare for future recipients, and fight the hospital monopolies. Put simply, I'd fight the hell back against the massive government intrusion that the Obama-Clinton Machine forced upon us.

This would reduce federal spending alone by $283 Billion. That's almost as much money as Mitt made last year.

Seriously though, we need to use market based solutions, such as state lead exchanges to get as many people covered as possible. We need to stop this stupid idea put forward by the Democrats that we're somehow happy when people don't have healthcare insurance, and that we're happy when people get ill and die. That's why my plan would aggressively lower uninsured rates, by lowering premiums, tackling hospital monopolies, and by offering real conservative solutions.

It's easy though for politicians to stand up here and talk about there plans, but remember this; I'm the only person up here who has cleaned up after a Democratic administration. In New Jersey I took on the special interests, the big public sector unions, and left wing Democrats, and I fixed our underfunded pension system, I balanced our budget, I froze the spiral property taxes, and I sorted out the mess.

If you vote for me, believe me, you'll get someone who has delivered real, conservative reforms, not someone who has just remembered a bunch of talking points.

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2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

It's the most crushing thing to have to watch as a Governor, when people can't get work. I saw a man in his 50's, he reached out to me, and grabbed his wrinkled, worn hands to tell that after two decades of working, the steel mill where he worked had been closed down. The look in his eyes was crushing, because he knew, that politicians like me, where responsible for that.

So let's change that; let's get the government out the way. Repeal the job-killing employee mandate, stop the spread of the EPA, and let's focus on creating good, proper high paying jobs.

The first route to job creation is through tax cutting.  I'd cut corporation tax to 25%, so that America can be competitive in attracting the best, and biggest, which would bring us 10 million new jobs. I'd make individual taxes lower, fairer, and simpler. I'd get rid of payroll tax for those under the age of 25, and those over the age of 62, so that we can get everyone who wants to work, a proper well paid job.

Second, we gotta unleash the energy markets in these countries. Let's end the ban on exporting crude oil, let's get the Keystone Pipeline going and let's start pumping out that Shale Gas. Let's get the government out the way, and get the jobs flowing in.

I can be trusted to do. When I became Governor in New Jersey we had a job growth of 0%. Zero. We've now had two years of job growth, with 60,000 new private sector jobs. After the mess that we were left in by John Corzine, we're doing pretty well. I know that I can clear up this mess that the Obama-Clinton method has left us in.

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3.- To Governor Christie: Governor, you have only held the office of Governor of New Jersey for less than two years, much less experience than what President Obama had when running for President. Should voters be concerned about this percieved lack of experience?

Woh Woh let's stop there.

I have more experience than President Obama when he ran in 2008. Way more. When President Obama was giving speeches in Chicago I was appointed as the first U.S Attorney after 9/11.  When President Obama was palling around in the Illinois State legislature I was using the Patriot Act to convict terror suspects.

I know the talking heads like to pretend that the only experience that matters is sitting around in Washington D.C, but come on. I've spend 7 years as a U.S Attorney before becoming Governor. Every day, when I woke up, I had witnesses to interview, I had court notes to prepare, I had warrants to get approved. I didn't just sit around and write a nice book like President Obama.

It would have been easy for me to follow the Obama route ya know, I could have sat and waited for a nice seat in the House, or the Senate. I could have sat in Washington doing nothing but talking, and then what, in 2020 I could have ran for President. But I couldn't sit back and watch this country slide down the drain. In my family, we get up and we go to work.

I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted terrorists, and put them behind bars. I'm the only one who has fought with a Democratic dominated legislature, and got real conservative reforms.

Closing Statement

The only way that Republicans are going to win in 2012, and actually sort of the mess that been left in Washington is to be honest with people. So please folks at home, put down your beer, put down your nachos, and listen up. We face a hell of a lot of problems, problems that were caused by President Obama, like the job-killing mandate in Obamacare, and problems that existed before President Obama, such as the failure to invest in infrastructure, the failure to become truly energy independent, and the failure to tackle the big, powerful special interest lobbies. Only by accepting these problems, can we come together and fix them.

I'll also be honest with you; I didn't plan on running in this campaign. Some of the talking heads, and media folk seem to think I should have stayed in New Jersey and padded my CV. But that's not what I do. I get up, every day and I get to work. I was not able to best serve my family, my state or my country, if I sat at home, and watched another plain old republican get beaten by another deceitful democrat.

I knew that I had to stand up and fight. If you want a nominee who has put terrorists behind bars, if you want a nominee who has won and passed real, conservative reform in a deep blue state, and if you want a nominee who can beat the Obama-Clinton machine like a drum, join me in my fight.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
Greenville, SC

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September 4, 2011

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Hello Greenville!

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Today, I'm standing here next to Jindal to make a statement. America needs an alternative. We need a president who will bring real change to our nation, not just Obama's failed campaign promise of "change". But also, America needs a president who can unite the many factions of his party to win. And after hearing all of the candidates four nights ago, and listening to their campaigns, I can say that without a doubt only one man can lead the Republicans to success in 2012. And this is why today, I, Lindsey Graham, have the pleasure of endorsing my good friend, the next President of the United States, Bobby Jindal!

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Many candidates for the nomination have staked out claims for one faction or the other, but Jindal remains not a candidate for the establishment, not a candidate for the populists, but a candidate for all conservatives who want change. His slogan rings true: it's time for change. America has been embroiled with a president who is destroying our nation, inside and out. But also, it's time for Jindal. He is the only candidate who can unite our party around a common goal: change.

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If you want real conservatism back in the White House, if you want a rebirth of America's economy, if you want a better life, and most importantly, if you want change, then vote for only one candidate on the ballot.

Bobby Jindal.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
Crestview, FL

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September 9, 2011

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Q: If elected President, how would you keep our nation secure?

A: Right now, the world is a very unstable place. With the Middle East always in the news, North Korea seemingly firing off another test missile every day, and insurgencies all across the world, now more than ever America needs a strong military. However, Obama doesn't believe this. He thinks that we should reduce our military and the entire world will just get together like friends and have peace. Well, that's not how the world works, Obama!

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We need a president who will respect our military, keep its size, and make sure that our veterans are cared for. We need a president who will stand strong against the face of adversity. But we also need a president who will wield diplomacy and strength together, to keep our nation safe. Unlike Obama, I will be this candidate. If elected President, I will rebuild ties with our allies and strengthen our nation's standing in the world. I will make sure to institute reforms for the VA. I will keep our military's numbers strong and continue to research new technologies. That was a good question, thank you. And thank you Crestview, thank you Florida, and God bless America and our military!

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 05, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Ad: Go to Work.


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When my mum was on her deathbed, she grabbed me by hand, and told me 'there is nothing unsaid between us.'' There is no love stronger than the love between a son, and his mother, but she knew that I knew how much she loved, and cared for me. Then she told me something even more moving...

She said to me 'Christoper, Go back to Work.' She was giving me permission to let her go, she knew that she had done everything to raise me. Three days later she passed away, and they were the last words we exchanged. I had no regrets because I lived my life the way she taught me.

Every day I do what my mom told me. I went to work.

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I was the first U.S Attorney appointed after 9/11, and I made counter-terrorism the number 1 priority of my office after the cowardly attacks on America.
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I put the Fort Dix attackers behind bars, and am the only candidate running who has stood up, day after day, to protect America.

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I put crooked, corrupt politicians like Sharpe Jones in prison, for using campaign funds to pay for their lavish lifestyle.
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I ran for Governor of New Jersey, and won in a deep blue state. Since then we balanced a budget twice, without raising taxes, we fixed our broken pension system and we beat the powerful public unions.
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Now I'm running to President, so that I can fight for you, so that I can fight to get our Economy booming again, to get Washington to balance it's budget and to get rid of Obamacare. Join me, and let's fight for America.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 05, 2018, 03:09:00 PM
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Concord, New Hampshire
September 9th, 2011

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SEN. AYOTTE: "Good afternoon, Concord. Today I am proud to announce who I am rallying behind to be our President in 2011, and who I hope you will support with me. I have been impressed by the amount of time this candidate has spent in New Hampshire, holding open town hall meetings, answering the tough questions and listening to voters. He has proven through his experience as a successful businessman and effective governor that he is best prepared to lead our country and ensure Barack Obama is a one-term president! I am proud to introduce to you a man that you already know well, the former Governor of Massachusetts and next President of the United States, Mitt Romney!" (exuberant, reverential applause)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 05, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
Carolla campaign update 3
September 21th 2011

Carolla campaigned in Florida on Domestic Security saying that he will reform the NSA and Homeland Security claiming that they haven’t been doing their jobs and that they made the Security of the American people weaker.

Carolla also started setting campaign offices and GOTV efforts in the state.

Carolla’s internet fundraiser kept on going as his campaign as money donated to the campaign has it almost half a million dollars.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 05, 2018, 04:41:42 PM
Romney 2012 Ad #3
"Where Mitt Stands"
Air in all early primary and caucus states
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People have been asking me what makes me different from other Republicans running. Here's what I tell them:
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Unlike my opponents, I understand that the middle class has been hurt the most by the Obama downturn. If I'm elected, the middle class will grow again after it see it's taxes cut.
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I also know what it means to run businesses and balance budgets, which is why I know that we need to cap our spending relative to our GDP, and cut waste that Democrats let drive up the deficit.
I balanced Massachusett's budget for four straight years -- I can do it for America, too.

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Unlike our President I also understand that strangling small businesses doesn't help create jobs. Unlike other Republicans, my work in the private sector has told me that for America's businesses to flourish and for our jobs to return, we need lower taxes.
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I also have more experience than anyone else in this field with healthcare -- in Massachusetts I reformed the state healthcare system and know that once we repeal Obamacare, we must give the states the tools they need to expand services and reduce costs.
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So when people ask you what I stand for, tell them this: Mitt Romney is a proven reformer who's fighting to bring back prosperity. Tell them about my business record, or my time as Governor, or even when I saved the 2002 Olympics. Tell them that with Mitt, the last four years of decline will be over for good.
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Don't listen to people who give you empty promises without the record to back it up. Listen to someone who you know can accomplish the change they promise. I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 05, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Political Ad: The New Jersey Way.

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(Governor Christie talking straight to the Camera)

''My dad is Irish, and my Mum is Italian. That was all the training I need for New Jersey Politics. It's loud, it's ugly and it's tough as nails. But here in New Jersey we've got a good story to tell.

The pundits, and media figures said I didn't have a chance against Governor Corzine and the the special interests. The Teachers Union spend $3 million trying to defeat me, but there negative campaign failed, and in 2009 I became Governor of New Jersey.

We have 700,000 more Democrats in New Jersey, and a Democratic dominated legislature. I could have sat back, or changed all my policies to get along with the Democrats, but that's not the New Jersey way. Instead we got together, cracked some heads together, and got on with the Job.

We balanced a budget two years in a row, without any tax rises.

We passed bi-Partisan pension reform to fill in a $121 billion gap.

We defeated the big public sector unions who opposed our common sense reforms.

We created 60,000 public sector jobs.

And best of all, we proved that divided government, with ideologically opposed parties doesn't have to be as much of a disaster as it is in Washington.

I may be loud, I may be rather large, and I may keep yabbering on for too long, but that's the New Jersey Way, and we know how to get things done.

(laughs to Camera)



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 05, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.
Extracts from Governor Christie's Speech at the Rockefeller Centre

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Keeping America Safe.

Do you want to the know what the most distressing 4 hours of my life were? It was when I was frantically calling my wife's cell phone on September 11th, 2001. Mary-Pat, like thousands of others had got up in the morning, with absolutely no idea what was going to happen. Those hours whilst I waited where the longest in my life. I carry that thought with me everyday, because I've seen the shattered, fractured lives that terrorism leaves behind. I've meet the kids who'll never got a chance to have their parents drop them off at college, the partners never able to feel the embrace of their beloved, the parents having to outlive their children. It feels me with pain, but it reminds me,
 every day, of the awesome responsibility that comes with sitting in the Oval Office.

I'm the only candidate running who has filled in the forms for a search warrant against terror suspects. I'm the only candidate  who has used the PATRIOT act to track down weapon smugglers who were trying to harm our brave troops. I'm the only candidate who has personally looked evil in the eye, and you know what; it's prepared me.

I pray everyday for the fact that we've not had a serious terror attack under President Obama. This is where I'll disagree with some of my rivals; I know that President Obama, Secretary Gates and the career staff at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, the FBI and the CIA take the role of protecting America seriously. I know that the vast majority of us, have one care. And that's protecting America.

But we need a new approach. It's incorrect to think that a nice speech in Cairo can protect us from radical Islamic terrorism, it's wrong to think that cutting back our Air-Force and Army won't sent a message to our enemies, and it's wrong to think that we can abandon our closest allies, and partners around the world... and expect them to stand beside us forever.

Today I'm laying out my new approach to counter-terrorism, because I know that the seconds, minutes and hours after a terror attack, can change lives.

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Governor Christie's Counter-Terrorism Plan
1.) 10 year extension, and renewal of the Patriot Act's key provisions on roving wiretaps, searches of business records and individual surveillance.
2.) Aggressive targeting of Al-Qaeda leadership including a renewed focus to capture, or kill Osama Bin Laden.
3.) Enforcement of a no-fly zone in Libya, and enforcement of sanctions against the Gaddaffi Regime.
4.) Increased support and funding for the AFT and FBI to carry out border security operations
5.) A renewed, and revitalized friendship with Israel, including support for the Iron Dome Program.
6.) Reform of Transport Security Administration, and funding for millimeter wave scanning.
7.) A renewed focus on the threat of WMD falling into the hands of terrorist organisations, including potential WMD in both Syria, and Libya.


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Reporter: Governor Christie, have you seen Governor Romney's Ad?

Governor Christie: Oh yeah. Where does Mitt Stand? I know that when I was standing up in court to put terrorists behind bars, Mitt was standing on some ice in Utah..


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 06:45:41 PM
West Palm Beach, FL

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September 14, 2011

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Hello sunny West Palm Beach!

cheers

Now, many of you may be asking 'Why are we here at an empty parking lot?'. Well, like many places across America, this could in the future be the potential site of a high-speed-rail station. Now, what's so great about high-speed-rail? It cuts down on travel time, creates jobs, and cuts emissions way down. During my administration, I would support the construction of new high-speed-rail lines at little to no cost to taxpayers, all the while creating hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of new jobs. How could this happen? Many of these new proposals would use little to no federal funding, lessening the cost on taxpayers' pocketbooks. High-speed-rail and the expansion of public transport is a win-win for America. And this is why my administration would help these projects flourish, unlike many of my Republican opponents and the Obama administration, which has put red tape in front of these privately-funded projects. Not one of my opponents has come out in favor of these projects on the campaign trail. In fact, some don't support these just because they have the highway lobbyists telling them what to do!

Boos

High-speed rail isn't exactly a hot-button issue. But I have chosen to focus on this and many issues that are thrown by the wayside by many of my opponents because I don't care about the news coverage. I don't care about the publicity. What I care about is talking about the real issues that Americans care about, no matter if no other candidate is.

cheers

It's time to change how we travel. So if you support creating alternatives to improve our aging infrastructure, if you support creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs, if you support change, then we can all agree: it's time for Jindal. Thank you West Palm Beach, and God bless America!

loud cheers


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 05, 2018, 07:46:05 PM
Carolla campaigns in Tampa Bay on preventing World War III
September 22nd 2011

You see most of these candidates they talk about wanting to put a no fly zone in Libya.

And I said are you kidding? That thing will just get matters worse in Libya. As a matter of fact we should of never be intervening in Libya! They have nothing to do with us. They didnt attack us! They didnt pose a threat to our way of living! All this is a start to push a imperial empire of CIA puppet goverments all across the Middle East!

Now Gaddaffi have not be a great guy however he never threaten us and he isnt some Islamic extremist like Obama is making him out to be!

As President I will stop this madness of making matters worse in the Middle east and prevent World War III from happening!

*Crowd cheers and starts chanting no war*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 08:10:18 PM
Concord, NH

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September 18, 2011

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Many have questioned why I have positioned myself as the "change" or the "outsider" candidate. America needs a leader that will be willing to take the nation to the next step. The Republican Party needs change to win. And we can't run on the same policies of 2008. America needs a new type of leader: one who will be willing to defend their values while still cooperating with all factions to improve the quality of life of everyday Americans. America needs a new conservative leader. And I signed up for this campaign because I'm the only candidate that can be this leader. The rest of the party and my opponents are set in their ways, using the same old political formula. But if we want to win in 2012, we need change.

cheers

As many of you know, I decided against running for re-election for Governor of Louisiana. Now, it's not because I didn't enjoy helping Louisianians, it's not because I wasn't favored to win--in fact, I led my nearest opponent by more than 30 points in the polls--, it's because I'm not in this for myself. I'm running for President for all of you. If I wanted to help myself, I would have run again for Governor during this campaign. I would have had political security. However, this would be disrespectful to you as I would not be giving my all to this campaign. And this campaign isn't about me, it's about you.

cheers

Thank you Manchester, God bless New Hampshire, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 05, 2018, 08:17:48 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #1
Hillary for America, Airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Florida

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NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Hillary Clinton: Lawyer, advocate for children, First Lady of the United States, Senator from New York, candidate for President

- Scene cuts to a 9/11 First Responder mowing his lawn -

MAN: Hillary fought for the rights of first responders from September 11th like me.

- Scene cuts to a family of four sitting around the dining room table -

WOMAN: Hillary fought for the Children's Health Insurance Program for kids like my son.

- Scene cuts to a senior citizen playing cards -

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WOMAN: Hillary fought to protect our social safety net for seniors like us.

- Scene cuts to a father playing in the yard with his two daughters -

MAN: Hillary fought to advance women's rights for girls like my daughters.

- Scene cuts to Hillary at various moments during her career -

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HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I've done a lot of things during the course of my career. As a young lawyer, I fought for civil rights laws to be enforced in South Carolina. As a postgraduate, I became one of the two female faculty members at the University of Arkansas Law School and helped found Fayetteville, Arkansas' first rape crisis center. As First Lady of Arkansas, I secured federal money to expand health care access in the most rural communities. As First Lady of the United States, I pressued Congress to act on children's health insurance. As a Senator from New York, I've worked with Democrats and Republicans to put America first.

- Scene cuts to Hillary walking down a quiet street near her New York home-

HILLARY: I've done a lot in my life, but the proudest moments have come while standing up for the American people. I've done it in the courtroom, I've done it Arkansas, and I've done it in the Senate. Now, I want to do it from the White House. I'm running for President and I hope you'll come with me on this journey.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 08:33:14 PM
Iowa City, IA

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September 21, 2011

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When many from the coasts think of Iowa, they think of "flyover country". They think of old, dilapidated farms that haven't seen use in generations amidst agricultural monopolies taking over the food industry. They think of farming as a dying job which no one does anymore. And unfortunately, right now, they're right. But don't you want to prove them wrong?

cheers

If elected President, I will not only implement new programs in schools to teach kids the fundamentals and benefits of being a farmer, I will also promote tax cuts for the small farms so that each and every family farmer across the state of Iowa and all across America can get back to continuing their families' tradition or start a new one. America will get back to farming again.

cheers

Thank you Iowa City, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 05, 2018, 08:39:23 PM
Campaign schedule for September

Overview:
Michigan : Sep. 1 - Sep. 10
New York: Sep. 11
New Hampshire: Sep. 12 - Sep. 20
Iowa: Sep. 20 - Sep. 30


Highlights:

Michigan ( Sep. 1 - Sep. 10 )
Kickoff Speech
Rallys in Detroit, Dearborn, Lansing, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Flint, and Ann Arbor (Healthcare)
Fundraisers in Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Lansing.
Meetings with Republicans and Democrats from Michigan in Lansing (Legislators)
Key Policy: Representative Upton says that he plans on making a move on healthcare within his first 100 days in Office keeping the parts of ObamaCare that benefit the American and scrapping those that hurt he plans on keeping the law against denial due to pre existing conditions.

New York ( Sep. 11 )
Suspended campaigning in remembrance of 9/11


New Hampshire ( Sep. 12 - Sep. 20 )
Speech in Concord and New Haven (Gun Rights)
Rallys in Concord New Haven Manchester and Keene
Town Halls in Concord and Keene
Fundraisers in Manchester and New Haven
Meetings with Republicans in the state house and senate
Opening a Campaign office in Manchester
Key Policy: Rep. Upton has pledged to expand background checks to cover the gun show and online buying loopholes, but he promises not to expand gun restrictions and will veto any bill seeing to do so on those that do not pose a risk to society.


Iowa ( Sep. 20 - Sep. 30 )
First Campaign office in Iowa is opened in Des Moines
Barnstorm in Ames
Speech in Des Moines (Ethanol)
Speech in Ames (Gun Rights)
Speech in Davenport and Dubuque (Affirmative Action)
Key Policy: Rep. Upton says that he cannot support the ethanol subsidies as they may hurt the environment more then they help as they have been proven to use more oil to make then they save. In Ames he promises to fight for gun rights, but expand background checks and make sure that the American People have access to firearms and those who do not have a criminal record have the ability to purchase firearms. And in Davenport and Dubuque he says he does not support affirmative action and adds that he believes people should be given opportunities based on Merit and not on race gender or religion.  



Operations:
Setting up operations in states that have more open primaries, putting the most resources into New Hampshire where more moderate independent voters can vote and letting the more moderate Republicans in the state help him there.
Spending time with his niece Kate Upton in Michigan before departing for New York to pay his respects to those who have fallen.
Building up a grass roots fundraising base with UptonCares.com and recruiting precinct captains and volunteers in Iowa New Hampshire and Nevada.  









(Jindal is letting me use his format <3)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 05, 2018, 08:48:50 PM
Des Moines, IA

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September 25, 2011

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Hello Des Moines!

cheers

As I've emphasized thought this campaign, America and the Republican Party both need change. And one of the most notorious sources of corruption in Washington is the lobby system. Many times, a good bill will be up for a vote, but if a company sees that their interests are at risk, they lobby these Representatives, Senators, and the like to back down or even vote the other way. These companies even bribe these elected officials with lunches and gifts. But the American people lose out here. While corporations' interests are being protected, Americans' interests are being trampled on. And this needs to come to an end. America's constitution does not say "We the Companies", it says "We the People"!

cheers

And this is why, if elected President, I will put heavy restrictions on lobbyists. For example, lobbyists will only serve two year terms at maximum, and may not lobby for the same company again. And lobby firms or lobbyists that are caught bribing elected officials or candidates will be charged with jail time. No fines, because we know they have lined their pockets with money and can pay off a fine in a millisecond.

boos

Right. And doing this is essential to preserving American democracy. Without the innessant lobbyists, Americans' voices will be better represented and the interests of Americans will be better protected. I know that this won't solve all corruption problems--I have more plans to address other problems--but this is definitely a start. This is the kind of real change I'm talking about. Because it's time for change. It's time for Jindal.

cheers

Thank you Des Moines, thank you Iowa, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 05, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Walter Jones Debate Responses

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1.- It seems one of the main concerns of rank and file Republicans is the Health Care debate and the issues that come from Obamacare. If elected President, would you repeal Obamacare? What would you replace it with?

All of us here on stage agree that Obamacare is not the way to go. This was a rushed bill with little input from the American people, and this is the worst kind of central planning imaginable. I would act swiftly to repeal Obamacare. With that said, we shouldn't leave people dying on the street. Society does have a role to protect those who have nothing, and I as President would look into ways that the federal government can strengthen protections for uninsured and at-risk Americans while maintaining the dignity of our free-market system. We need to think long and hard about what comes after Obamacare is gone. If we just go back to the way it was right before, then we'll have solved little about our healthcare system. It's time for some responsibility in our leadership again.

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2.- As unemployment not only fails to drop but increases in some parts of the country, there is a spirited debate about the best way to create new jobs and lower unemployment for good. Why are you a better choice than your fellow candidates when it comes to creating jobs?

I come from a little town called Farmville, North Carolina. I learned the value of hard work from an early age, and I helped run my family's company for a number of years. That kind of upbringing and experience has taught me what it means to own a small business, to try and earn a decent living, and to make ends meet. I understand that both workers and small business owners haven't gotten the assistance they need. Wages have been stagnant for many years, and President Obama hasn't solved that problem. He also hasn't brought unemployment down to normal levels. If this keeps up, we'll see an entire generation displaced and worse off than their parents were. I admit I differ from my colleagues in certain ways. For example, we need to see an increase in the minimum wage in order to help out average Americans and boost demand in our economy. An average Republican won't be able to correct the ship after a recession like this one. That's why I'm running. We need new ideas and fresh faces in Washington.

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8.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you have entered history as one of the champions of the Iraq War and the so called "freedom fries" issue, only to become one of the fiercest anti-war Republicans. How do you justify such a jarring shift?

It's simple: I did what few politicians do and admit I made a mistake. I made a mistake when I voted for a war that had no end. I made a mistake when I pushed for the deaths of thousands of American lives that could have been saved. I thought we were going into Iraq with the right intentions. Saddam Hussein was clearly a man who brutalized his own people. However, seeing the chaos unfold and the unexplained questions from the Bush administration made me question what we went into. After visiting the funeral for the son of a family in my district, I realized just what we had done--what *I* had done. Ever since then, I've done whatever I can in Congress to avoid repeating the mistakes we did in Iraq. General Smedley Butler said it best that war is a racket, and it should only be the final option. Americans don't deserve being subject to any further foreign adventures just because warmongers want regime change or to push their influence in a region. It's troubling to see so many here push for more aggression when we're talking about human lives at stake. War affects each and every one of us, and when we go to war, it must be done responsibly. That is the ultimate lesson of Iraq.

Closing statement:

This year, we have choices. We can choose to follow along the path of the donor class, who want crony capitalism, endless wars, and more of the same business we're used to. Those candidates are up here on this stage. 2012 is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to change Washington for the better, though. I'm running as a different kind of Republican. You won't see me cozying up to lobbyists, because I don't want their money. The establishment has tried to knock me out many times now, but I always come out standing because the people of my district know they have a congressman with integrity. I'll stand up for regular Americans whose voices have been left behind for years. I'll fix our VA system and take care of veterans who have been ignored for so long. I'll protect our entitlements like Social Security unlike those who wish to put a wrecking ball to it all. I'll put America first: both by stopping these horrible trade deals and by avoiding military entanglements like Washington warned us. If you want real change this election, I'm your guy. Thank you.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 05, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
Walter Jones Schedule: September 1-30

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September 1-5: Town halls and meet and greets in Iowa; reaching out to pro-life organizations; building campaign staff statewide, particularly rural areas.

September 6-12: Town halls and meet and greets in New Hampshire; multiple interviews with local radio stations; building campaign infrastructure with focus on grassroots enthusiasm.

September 12-20: Town halls and meet and greets in South Carolina; interviews with local TV stations; building relationships with veterans groups; building campaign infrastructure with strong focus on northern SC, bordering Congressman Jones's district.

September 21-23: Congressional duties; interviews with CNN and Fox News; anti-war rally against Libyan intervention in Washington, D.C.

September 24-26: Town halls and meet and greets in Nevada; outreach to Latino and veterans groups; building campaign infrastructure with focus on rural areas.

September 27-28: Town halls and meet and greets in Minnesota; interviews with local radio and TV outlets; building up ground game for caucus.

September 29-30: Town halls in South Carolina; rally in Charleston; continued outreach with veterans groups; voter registration drive.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 05, 2018, 10:12:46 PM
JONES: NO TO LIBYA!

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At an antiwar demonstration televised in Washington D.C., Congressman Jones made the following remarks:

Look at the death toll in Libya. Look at the damage suffered by the people. With our reckless foreign policy, we're leaving the Middle East worse off than it already was. This madness must stop now!

[. . .]

Mr. President, if you care about human rights and you care about seeing the well-being of the Libyan people, I beg you to show leadership and stop the carnage being waged by NATO. This is a dangerous path we're going down and we don't know the full ramifications of this conflict. It must end now or we will see the consequences 5, 10, and 20 years down the line. And we won't like it, folks.

[. . .]

The Iraq War has taught me many things. It made me realize that American men and women lose their arms, legs, and lives when we don't think through the consequences of bombs and bullets. I've put the photographs of the brave Americans who've lost their lives throughout my congressional office as a constant reminder that, while I'm still here on this planet, I must do the Lord's work and save lives. This is what is at stake here: not just American lives, but Libyan lives too.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:00:05 AM
Turn Two: It's a mad, mad world:
October 1st to October 31st, 2011

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In the News!

Occupy Wall Street on the rise, goes nation-wide
Dozens of Occupy inspired protests across America, authorities losing control over Zuccotti Park

Muammar Gaddafi killed in Sirte!
Libyan Dictator gruesomely executed, Libyan insurgency claims victory

Economy doesn't show improvement, Greece close to default
Dow Jones continues to lower, Europe tries to avoid a Greek debt default

Boustany elected Louisiana Governor in GOP Landslide:
Rep. Charles Boustany smashes competition with 56%, no run-off necessary

Steve Job dies
Famous Apple business magnate and inventor dies at age 56

1.- Turn: This turn lasts across the whole month of October. Same rules apply to the past one.

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Mitt Romney: 24%
Chris Christie: 18%
Sarah Palin: 14%
Bobby Jindal: 12%
Ron Paul: 10%
Donald Trump: 7%
Adam Carolla: 5%
Walter Jones: 3%
Saxby Chambliss: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 6%

Republicans: Christie and Jindal, challengers on the rise:

At the end of September it seemed a pattern had finally made its appearance on the GOP Primaries. Fully expecting the outspoken Tea Party challengers Trump and Palin to make Romney’s life impossible, pundits were stunned when both campaigns pulled out of the debates for unknown reasons and stayed away from the campaign trail. In the middle of increasing speculation on the seriousness of the Palin and Trump bids and with the more conservative wing of the GOP in an increasing panic, a significant polling shift took place across October, reinforcing a particular thread and creating new ones. The main element to remain was the consolidation of Mitt Romney as the GOP frontrunner as Palin began to implode, pulling leads on all five early primary states and running what was seen to be a well-oiled, tight-run ship that allowed him to capitalize.

However, such numbers also hid the fact Romney continued to have a low ceiling in the primary on account of the distrust conservatives had for him, reinforced by his latest speech on immigration. They needed someone to look to as an alternative in case Trump and Palin bolted before Iowa, and they found acceptable substitutes in Bobby Jindal and Chris Christie. Christie taking advantage of his blunt “no-nonsense” style and Jindal using his ties to different groups inside the GOP, both men showed credibility on the debate stage and well-coordinated campaign efforts that allowed for their substantial rise in the polls. Even if Tea Party conservatives have their reasons to have a certain distrust towards both Governors, they rapidly seized the moment to allow Christie to become a serious threat to Romney in Iowa and New Hampshire, and for Jindal to establish a very strong presence in South Carolina. Both men have a credible shot at becoming the “anti-Romney”, but some conservatives begin to wonder whether a Tea Party “white horse” may emerge to the rescue.

It was also a productive month by the so called “liberarian wing” of the GOP, which represented by three different candidates expanded their support on the polls partly due to disaffected conservatives. While Ron Paul’s prestige assures him the leading spot still and a strong position, Congressman Walter Jones has begun to be noticed, and radio talk show host Adam Carolla has made quite an impact as his bid for the presidency slowly becomes credible, mostly restrained by the libertarian views that make it hard for many conservatives to support him. On the downside are Senator Chambliss, whose credibility, polling and financial backing evaporated on the back of “Chickengate”, and Congressman Upton, who managed to become something of a standard-bearer for the ultra-moderate remnants in the GOP while tanking for most of the party after the debate and his praise for Obamacare.

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Barack Obama: 47%
Hillary Clinton: 33%
Russ Feingold: 9%
Phil Bredesen: 8%
Undecided: 3%

Democrats: All knives against the President

Amidst much speculation the Democratic Primary have heated up in a significant way as the primary season approaches fast, and President Obama appears to have a target on his back. Far from treating the White House with defence Senators Clinton and Feingold have harshly attacked the President on his record and profited from such attacks for the most part, whereas Governor Bredesen spared no possible line of attack. Launching a relentless wave of attacks on the President, Bredesen felt bold enough to call the President a “liar” and make several controversial comments on matters such as the President’s “diversity” on religion. Attending the debate but declining to enter the field to campaign, the President remains on a strong position, but he has lost significant ground to his contenders.

Of his two less powerful challengers, Senator Feingold has made successful moves to appeal to progressives and has begun to mount a credible challenge in Iowa, even if the more conservative wing of the party (and particularly the Democratic South) views him with disdain. Part of this is because of the Senator’s approach to the Occupy protestors, many (but not all) of whom embraced him in scenes resembling 1968 while Senator Clinton was openly insulted by those present when attempting to approach them. Governor Bredesen has raised anger and disdain not only from the party establishment, but from many voters as well who have called him a Republican-lite after his suggestion that Obamacare should be repealed. While, ironically, he rises in the polls on account of what is believed to be a shocking surge across Appalachia and the conservative states that distrust the President, Bredesen has also tanked on several other areas of the country.

Senator Clinton, on the other hand, has had to live with the rebuke of Occupy Wall Street and the particularly harsh comment by the President on what a Clinton President would be, but has surpassed those issued with a well-run campaign and selective efforts on what appear to be her strongest states. While Clinton has lost conservative Democratic support to Bredesen, she has won far more voters than lost via undecideds or voters supporting the President out of duty, but who may now see the Senator as a credible challenger. While President Obama continues to sit safe in Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina, Senator Clinton is starting to put up a very serious fight in both New Hampshire and Florida, average polling placing her within six to five points of the President.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:05:35 AM
GOP Average Polling:

IOWA:

Mitt Romney: 23%
Chris Christie: 16%
Sarah Palin: 14%  
Ron Paul: 13%
Bobby Jindal: 12%
Donald Trump: 11%
Adam Carolla: 3%
Walter Jones: 2%
Saxby Chambliss: 1%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 5%


NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Mitt Romney: 29%
Chris Christie: 23%
Ron Paul: 14%
Donald Trump: 9%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Bobby Jindal: 6%
Sarah Palin: 3%
Fred Upton: 2%
Walter Jones: 2%
Saxby Chambliss: 0%
Undecided: 6%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Mitt Romney: 26%
Bobby Jindal: 22%
Sarah Palin: 13%
Chris Christie: 10%
Walter Jones: 9%
Donald Trump: 4%
Ron Paul: 3%
Saxby Chambliss: 3%
Adam Carolla: 3%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%

FLORIDA:

Mitt Romney: 27%
Bobby Jindal: 17%
Chris Christie: 16%
Sarah Palin: 11%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Ron Paul: 5%
Donald Trump: 5%
Walter Jones: 2%
Saxby Chambliss: 1%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 9%

NEVADA:

Mitt Romney: 32%
Ron Paul: 10%
Chris Christie: 10%
Sarah Palin: 10%
Donald Trump: 9%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Bobby Jindal: 7%
Walter Jones: 5%
Saxby Chambliss: 0%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 10%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:07:20 AM
DEM Average Polling:

IOWA:

Barack Obama: 45%
Hillary Clinton: 28%
Russ Feingold: 18%
Phil Bredesen: 2%
Undecided: 9%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Barack Obama: 45%
Hillary Clinton: 39%
Russ Feingold: 9%
Phil Bredesen: 1%
Undecided: 6%

NEVADA:

Barack Obama: 51%
Hillary Clinton: 34%
Phil Bredesen: 4%
Russ Feingold: 4%
Undecided: 7%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Barack Obama: 59%
Hillary Clinton: 20%
Phil Bredesen: 15%
Russ Feingold: 2%
Undecided: 6%

FLORIDA:

Barack Obama: 44%
Hillary Clinton: 39%
Phil Bredesen: 6%
Russ Feingold: 3%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:19:42 AM
Debate Winners:

GOP:

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The latest GOP debate was certainly not a dull affair, even with the absence of Donald Trump and Sarah Palin (which is believed to have cost some rating to the debate). Overall pundits agreed that the debate winners ought to be Mitt Romney and Chris Christie, as both showed consistent skill in answering questions and defending their percieved weaknesses, while still landing some successful jabs at their oponents. On a close third was Governor Jindal, seen as very effective on health care, followed by Mr. Carolla (who could have scored higher were it not for some blows from Romney and Upton). With Representatives Paul and Jones believed to have had strong but not quite memorable performances, it was believed Representative Upton and Senator Chambliss were the most damaged, Upton sustaining a harsh barrage of criticism on Obamacare and Chambliss facing ridicule over "Chickengate".

DEM:

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In a debate which showed the willingness of challengers to knife President Obama on live TV if necessary, there was general agreement in the aftermath (backed by polls) that Hillary Clinton had won the first Democratic debate, allowing her to seize the moment in later days. While certainly damaged by the President's harsh assessment of her, Senator Clinton rebounded by strong responses and strong criticism of the President. Second place was given to Senator Feingold, who while not having a dramatic moment was nonetheless seen as solid and as successfully appealing to his progressive base, not suffering truly damaging attacks. President Obama was thought to have placed third, not necessarily on account of his performance (which also was seen as solid) but because of the damaging barrage against him. Last place was considered as belonging to Governor Breseden, who during the debate took a series of stances percieved to be far too conservative for the party, along with a series of questionable comments on issues such as Libya.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:30:59 AM
2nd Democratic Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Democratic candidates are invited to attend. Due to the advantanges of incumbency President Obama will not take an automatic hit if he refuses to debate. You have a right to reply to other candidates, but don't make it a ten post argument. Finally, you can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- Generally speaking there has been an increase in the concern for environmental policies in the past few years, matched by the rising concerns of people in states like West Virginia that such policies harm their employment. Where do you stand on this?

2.- Immigration is also an issue at the heart of current political debate, particularly prominent in the border states. What would you say is the right solution to the immigration issue?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To President Obama: Mr. President, sources close to the White House have reported that there was serious talk of removing Vice-President Joe Biden from the Democratic ticket, even before there was a primary challenge. What do yo have to say about this?

2.- To Senator Clinton: Senator, during the 2008 primary there were several conservative Democrats which proved crucial to some of your most relevant victories against President Obama. Yet some polls show several of them may be rather attracted to some of what Governor Bredesen has to say. Why would you represent a better option for them instead of the Governor?

3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, you've come under fire due to your latest comments on Obamacare and the suggestion that it should be repealed, something many Democrats reject. Why do you feel the President's most famous policy should be struck down?

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your embrace of Occupy Wll Street has gained you both criticism and praise, particularly after several young protesters decided to join your campaign. There is a rising controversy as the protests grow in scale, leading many to dismiss Occupy as nothing but a violent moment. What would you have to say about this?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:48:21 AM
2nd Republican Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Republican candidates are invited to attend, and you can of course reply to other candidates briefly. You can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Governor Romney: Governor, your latest immigration speech has come under heavy fire by several conservative figures in the party, who have described you as not having the right views to lead the Republican Party. What would you say to them?

2.- To Governor Christie: Governor, while many conservatives and Tea Party figures have expressed their approval of your candidacy, others have commented that your record is not as conservative as they would like. Are you sufficently conservative to appeal to this rising wing of the Republican Party?

3.- To Governor Palin: Governor, after the past month there are many who doubt whether you have what it takes to defeat the current frontrunner and capture the nomination. How do you plan to reassure voters that you can win this primary?

4.- To Governor Jindal: Governor, much has been made by public figures such as Mr. Trump regarding the place of birth of President Obama. Where do you stand on the "Birther" issue?

5.- To Congressman Paul: Congressman Paul, with the "Libertarian vote" seemingly split between yourself, Mr. Carolla and Congressman Jones some wonder if such division might not be a huge obstacle to your eventual performance. Why should Libertarian Republicans support you and not the other alternatives?

6.- To Mr. Trump: Mr. Trump, there is growing concern inside party circles that your bid for the presidency may not be as serious as once thought, and that you might drop out of the race sooner than expected. What do you say to this?

7.- To Mr. Carolla: Mr. Carolla, you have begun to rise in the polls, although it is said such an increase might have been higher were it not for your negative perception among some Tea Party circles. Can you reassure conservatives in the GOP that you are a valid choice for them?

8.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, there are reports of significant friction between yourself and other members of congress with the current GOP Leadership in the House, particularly with Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor. Are you dissatisfied with the current leadership?

9.- To Senator Chambliss: Senator, the so called "Chickengate" issue has led to your collapse in primary polling and the withdrawal of support from several key donors. Do you believe you can stage a comeback from such a difficult situation?

10.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, while your comments on Obamacare have been discussed in detail the same does not apply to your gun policy, which some NRA activists have described as "troubling". Where do you stand on guns?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 01:52:59 AM
Endorsements from Turn One:

Christie: Jon Huntsman, John Kasich.
Romney: Nikki Haley, Kelly Ayotte.
Carolla: Reason Magazine, Joe Rogan.
Paul: Rand Paul, Justin Amash.
Jones: Virgil Goode, Jimmy Duncan.
Jindal: Steve Scalise, Lindsey Graham.

Obama: John Kerry, Dick Durbin.
Clinton: Jeanne Shaheen, Bill Nelson.
Bredesen: Mike Ross, Brad Ellsworth.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 06, 2018, 02:39:01 AM
1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?


I don't want America to be a nation builder, but President Bush and Obama has forced us into this situation I think we should stay in these countries to make sure they are stable so we don't let another Iran take over the middle east. With this we need to put an end into this violence I propose by then end of my first term we will hopefully not be in Iraq, but I cannot make any promises America, We don't need to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people the Iraqi Government and Iraqi Defense Force need to make sure Iraq is stable, but I think we need to slowly pull out, but with a strong democratic ally in the middle east.



2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

Abortion, well I don't think the Government should be telling American women what they can and can't do with their bodies, but I do think we need regulation on the issue we need to make sure women can have access to clean and safe abortions and make sure that the American Tax payer decides where we stand. I would be more in favor of the states to decide on the issue of Abortion, but I will not support the issue of repealing Roe v Wade. On another social issue, Gay Marriage America needs to let it happen, the Government shouldn't tell 2 consenting adults what they can and cannot do, If we want a smaller government then we shouldn't tell people whether they can do with their own bodies and own minds.


Congressman Upton: Congressman, while your comments on Obamacare have been discussed in detail the same does not apply to your gun policy, which some NRA activists have described as "troubling". Where do you stand on guns?


Im fully in support of gun rights, we need to have universal background checks and making sure that sick people dont get ahold of guns so we can protect the innocent people of America. America is the land of the free, but we need background checks to make sure people who get guns are not criminals and people with mental instability. An American people that are disarmed is no America at all we need to assure the American people the ability to purchase Firearms.




Closing Statement


I believe that we need a free and equal America one that fights for not just the small guy, but the entire country. If we cannot balance moderation and equality then we need to strive, don't vote for me because I am a Republican, vote for me because you respect my views. We the American people have too long been held silent, but that time will end when you cast your vote whether Republican or Democrat and we need to fight for the American way of life and the American Dream. GOD BLESS AMERICA! AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 06, 2018, 01:59:05 PM
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Romney Responses: Second Debate
Part 1
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1.- To Governor Romney: Governor, your latest immigration speech has come under heavy fire by several conservative figures in the party, who have described you as not having the right views to lead the Republican Party. What would you say to them?

Well, I guess it was only a matter a time before pundits and spin-masters got hold of one of my statements and twisted it beyond belief.

Let me tell the American people again what they may have already heard me say, except this time I'm going to clarify -- no shifting, no flip-flopping, just clarifying.

First of all I'd like to reiterate that no matter what way you spin it, forcing 11 million people out of the United States is a fool's errand -- its a political promise with no real weight behind it. What we can instead do are two things that I believe will keep the best and brightest in, and make sure everyone else uses the legal mode of entry.

All of us can agree that service in our military is one of the greatest commitments to our country a person can make. If someone who lacks the proper residency status joins our military, and puts their life on the line for our nation, well that makes them an American to me. If someone is willing to make the greatest sacrifice possible for our country, let's give them a green card to thank them for their service.

The same goes for folks getting advanced degrees at our universities. I don't think the federal government should be paying for their college -- that just encourages more illegal immigration -- but I do believe that if someone without the right papers is getting one of the highest levels of education in the nation, lets staple the green card to their diploma so we can keep the best and brightest here.

But just because I believe in that doesn't mean I don't stand for ending illegal immigration and securing our borders. Throughout this campaign I have advocated for a massive expansion of border security measures we passed in 2006, with the hopes of building a border fence spanning the entire Mexican border and increasing security presence with new technologies. I've also advocated for a stricter enforcement of employment laws so that people in this country illegally can no longer take jobs from hard working Americans. If we want to lower our 9% unemployment rate, let's take jobs away from undocumented immigrants for a change and give them back to legal American citizens.

I believe America is focusing on the wrong kind of immigration and shunning the right one. When we stop giving handouts to illegal immigrants, they will go somewhere else to find them -- it's as simple as that. Instead, we have to look to reforming our visa programs so that the brightest people in the world still come to America to help create more jobs and make our country prosperous.

So to answer your question, to the conservatives doubting my immigration agenda, and to the American people, I'll tell you this: you're going to hear a lot of candidates try to lure you in with big, glamorous promises that they can't deliver on. Don't let these people fool you as the "true conservatives" in this election. A true conservative has not only a conservative agenda, but the foresight and pragmatism to get it done. Sure, my plan might not sound as radical or iron-fisted as the other guys', but I'll tell you why -- it works. Good, successful policy isn't loud, and it doesn't try to show-off, it works.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 06, 2018, 02:49:17 PM
Phil Bredesen 2nd Debate Answers

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1.- Generally speaking there has been an increase in the concern for environmental policies in the past few years, matched by the rising concerns of people in states like West Virginia that such policies harm their employment. Where do you stand on this?

I said this in the last debate and I'll say it again' We'll need to mix it up. President Obama wants to cut all fossil fuel jobs because eventually 'die out'. Mr. President, I want to ask you something. Have you ever gone to West Virginia? Have you ever gone to Kentucky? Have you ever gone to Appalachia? The people have nothing else but those jobs. That's the only thing they are good at. That's what put money in their pockets. That's what put food on the table. That's what keeps their children well fed and healthy. Is it the safest job? No, it isn't. Is it best for the planet? Definitely not. But I ask you America, what is more important? A family starving because they completely lost their livelihood or something that will happen in probably a hundred years from now? For Alternative Jobs, I do agree that we should use them but let's completely test it out first in states like Nevada, Utah, and Arizona. We can't be too reliant on an energy source that might not be very efficient while we have a very efficient one that already helps. I said this last debate but I think it should be repeated: let's rely on 52% Alternative Energy and 48% Fossil Fuels, that way the planet is somewhat safer and people still have their livelihood.


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2.- Immigration is also an issue at the heart of current political debate, particularly prominent in the border states. What would you say is the right solution to the immigration issue?

I talked about this issue in a rally I did in Nevada last month *laughs* Guess, I should say what it was again. Our border is too unsecure, everyone has to admit that. What I want is to have a larger, longer, and far more prepared fence going from California to Texas and every 5 miles of fencing should be guarded by 5-10 border guards. This is too limit immigration to an all time low. If you want in to this country, you have to do it legally. For illegals already here, if they're attempting to make a decent income and trying to give their children a better life, I think they should be allowed to be Naturalized and Legalized. If they're clearly gaming the system, I do think they need to get out and if they have came back after more than one deportation, then they should be locked up for 4 months and deported back afterwards. If the illegal immigrant committed a crime and they're a repeat deportation offender, then they will stay in prison for an amount of time that the crime that is given to normal citizens plus the four months.



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3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, you've come under fire due to your latest comments on Obamacare and the suggestion that it should be repealed, something many Democrats reject. Why do you feel the President's most famous policy should be struck down?

I said it should be repealed, yes I do admit that. I'm sorry I didn't specify on what I mean however. I want to give the AAC a partial Repeal. I don't want it to be just one healthcare company, I want it to be a series of Healthcare companies to give people more of an option when they choose and lessen the risk of a Premium that someone can't afford. The AAC as it is right now is alright but it can be worked on. That's what I want to do with it. Again, I apologise for not clarifying what I meant by repeal. I'll remember to clarify next time.

Closing Statement

In the last debate, it has come to my attention that I was too conservative, especially on Libya and Obamacare. I'm from the south and you must remember that it's conservative there. Now, when it comes to Libya, after Gaddafi's death, I want to revoke my previous stance. I was wrong for saying such things and I do apologise. Now that I have thought more on it, I agree that we should not support any group whatsoever. This can't be another Iraq but I do think that a No-Fly Zone might lead to war between some countries but I will keep it in place unless it seems war is likely. America, we are at a crossroads. We always have been at one in an election season. For the last 4 years there have been ups and downs. I just want to ask of you to look into what Senator Ron Paul had talked about Obama and McCain last Election and how both of them had no real differences in policy. It's hard to swallow that that is our president. Thank you for allowing me to be here. It's an honor America.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 06, 2018, 03:03:58 PM
Bredesen Campaign Schedule in October

Bredesen would Campaign in the states of Texas, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisana, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Alabama, North Carolina, Virginia, Oklahoma, and Kansas staying on his Blue Dog stance while also telling people on his stances on some issues while he also brought up the issue of Government Reform during a rally in Houston, Texas. He was also very clear and explained each of his ideas in great detail. On October 25th, he released his Tax returns of the past 20 years. On Halloween, he traveled to New York City and treat and treated with several families as well as giving some families some good ideas for a better way to spend money. After 3 hours of this, he stayed in a hotel in Harlem and waited out the last days of October in New York City.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 06, 2018, 03:12:10 PM
Bredesen interview on MSNBC with Rachel Madow on October 27th

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MADDOW: I have to say I'm very curious as to why you released your tax returns so early in the primary are you that confident of Victory in the primaries because recent Polling has shown you far behind Obama, Clinton, and Feingold as of Now.

BREDESEN: No, I didn't do it because I thought I'd win. I'm not even sure if I can win and everyone else agrees that this early, no one can be sure. I did it because I believe the earlier you are honest with people on things like tax returns, the more people trust you. America needs an honest person to lead them and I think I'm that person.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 06, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
Adam Carolla debate answers part 1
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1.To Mr. Carolla: Mr. Carolla, you have begun to rise in the polls, although it is said such an increase might have been higher were it not for your negative perception among some Tea Party circles. Can you reassure conservatives in the GOP that you are a valid choice for them?

Carolla:Listen I feel their pain and understand their cause.  I am not another member of what you think is the Hollywood elite *laughs*  I am just as Amercian as you. I wasnt feed by a golden spoon I actually had to work my way up to the top.

I want to spread the message of Liberty and the Constitution unlike the establishment like President Obama and Hillary Clinton who just still there and just claim they are fighting for people like you but really they just laugh at you in their penthouses and million dollar lake houses while talking to their donors.

Not all people from Hollywood like myself are like that.   And I think I am fighting for your revolution. Just look at my economic plan. I want Amercia to be the place where the tax rate is lower as the bottom of the deepest part of the ocean.  Something is happening in this country and your revolution is happening.

You look at President Obama’s again.  Obamacare is one steep closer towards socialized medicine.  I believe he has the most radical agenda when it comes to plans like Healthcare and Medicare as he is going to break that system instead of making those programs better.  

Obama is a typical statist. He believes that government is the solution for every need and for every desire of your life.

His goal for this country is a nanny state and he wants to make our decisions like he’s a king of some sort and I don’t want that!!

So yes as the Republican nominee I will fight for your cause. I will fight for your revolution and most of all I will fight for you!!





Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 06, 2018, 06:07:16 PM
2nd Republican Presidential Debate:

General Questions:

1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

Yes, this is the right decision, enough money, time, and lives have been wasted on this stupid venture. It is out time, good on President Obama for making this decision.

2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

Pro life in all cases, barring life of the mother, all rape (except statutory), and incest (which I believe should be a heavy felony).

Candidate Specific Question:


9.- To Senator Chambliss: Senator, the so called "Chickengate" issue has led to your collapse in primary polling and the withdrawal of support from several key donors. Do you believe you can stage a comeback from such a difficult situation?

No, I do not. It is obvious that I am not wanted by either the GOP or the people of this nation. Which is why I am taking this opportunity to drop out of this race, and endorse Obama for reelection. He is the best out of the worst, because all the candidates except me sucked, Obama is just the best out of them. I'd like to thank my most loyal supporters, friends, and family, and telling all the rest of y'all that you made a big mistake by not supporting me, and the only way to redeem yourselves now is to cast your ballots for the next best choice, Obama, the one who is qualified and kept this country afloat and patching up the leaks over the past several years, status quo is better than anything else offered to you now at this point. Here is a guide to why you should not vote for any of the other douchebags.

Hillary Clinton: Crooked Wench.
Russ Feingold: Sleazy Loser.
Phil Bredesen: Somewhat more palatable, but one of the fakest moderates and liars ever.
Mitt Romney: Liberal in hiding, elitist, gold underwear wearer.
Chris Christie: Fat and innefective slob who barely beat a frequent catamite user.
Sarah Palin: Drunken and degrading stereotype of a redneck. Fakest one ever. Makes the 99% of good ones look terrible, seriously, she is the second worst one running here.
Ron Paul: RINO and Libertarian.
Bobby Jindal: Confirmed chicken diddler, don't doubt it.
Donald Trump: Fake flip flopper who is a botox abuser.
Adam Carolla: Unwashed, sleazy, and overall disgusting beach bum.
Walter Jones: Worse hair than Trump, has no enthusiasm.
Fred Upton: Green Party Plant.
Wesley Clark: Vote sink and even less legitimate than Captain Crunch.
Anyone else I missed: Screw them.

So I am officially out of the 2012 Presidential Campaign, thanks to all those who believed in me, and **** the rest of you, Good Day, and remember to now cast your ballots for Obama, our only hope remaining.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 06:17:11 PM
Friendly reminder, the last debate intervention is not considered as part of the game. There will be an article on Senator Chambliss dropping out once the new possible GOP candidates confirm that they will (or not) be running and post their announcements.

(Also, no commentary on this matter here, that belongs on the Sign Up thread)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 06, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
Ernie Fletcher for President
"Let's win the Future!"

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Announcement Speech
Cincinnati, OH
October 1st, 2011

                              It's a great privilege and honor to be able to speak in front of this massive crowd. Thank you all for this opportunity. Decades ago, I served in the U.S Air Force. Years ago, I served as a U.S Representative from a district not-so-far from here. Years ago, I served as Governor for a state right off the Ohio River from here. And now, I stand here tonight as a doctor, veteran, father, and a husband. I'll say it again, thank you for that opportunity.

                              At Alton Healthcare and as a Doctor, we've kept one phrase important, and that is "Live Long, Live Well, Live On." And for the past several years, I've loved that slogan because it's true. A healthcare system based on that is what the people of Cincinnati, and aswell the entire United States, deserve.

                              And over across the Ohio River, we reversed a billion dollar deficit while increasing infrastructure spending, education fundraising, and expanded Medicaid. Although, we did not raise state taxes. And I can never thank them enough for the opportunity to do that. We won a future in Kentucky we didn't even know we had. I'm proud of the opportunities everyone gave to me.

I'm proud to announce my candidacy for President of the United States of America. And a candidacy built to win the future.

                              Now is not the time to continue the same path for the U.S. With your support and others throughout our country, we can truly change the path. We may have some of the biggest economic problems since the Great Depression. We MUST change this.

                              This campaign is not about Ernie Fletcher, it's not about Mitt Romney, it's not about Ron Paul, it's not about Obama or anyone else. This campaign is about you and what you deserve, and it's about time we acknowledge that. It's about the deficit, the economy, education, the military- industrial complex, your tax dollars, and so much, so much more.

                              Now is not the time for a politician, it is a time for public service. It's about damn time we end this game of political gotcha. I can only do that with your support. I would like this to be a new day. I would hope now we can focus on doing the people's business.

                              And I must say again, thank you all for this opportunity, God bless you and good night.






Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 06, 2018, 07:42:43 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
October 1 to October 31, 2011

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October 1 to October 3: Senator Clinton continues her campaign swing through Nevada. She meets with public school employees in Reno, visits the Nevada State Railroad Museum in Carson City, and talks with local religious leaders in Sunrise Manor. The Senator uses this time in Nevada to discuss her immigration policy, laying out the core tennants of her platform: protections for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, establishment of a clear path to citizenship, and the humane removal of aliens who pose of violent threat to the community.

October 4 to October 7: Senator Clinton takes a train from Nevada to California. The Senator takes meetings with families of people convicted of minor drug possessions in Fresno, speaks at the California Veterans Assistance Foundation in Bakersfield, and tours the Bird Medical Technologies facility in Palm Springs. A fundraiser in Los Angeles is also held, with former President Clinton.

October 8 to October 13: Senator Clinton flies from California to Washington, D.C. for Senate business. Senator Clinton did not take part in any campaign events, but campaign offices were opened and field staff were hired.

October 14 to October 21: Senator Clinton takes her campaign back to New York. A rally is held in Buffalo with Governor Andrew Cuomo to announce his endorsement of the Senator. The pair then meet with M&T Bank employees to discuss banking reform. She then holds a town hall meeting at the public library in Glens Falls before meeting with College Democrats at the University of Albany. At a press conference in Poughkeepsie, Senator Clinton calls on the Occupy Protesters in Zuccotti Park to "remain calm and civil, to cooperate with authorities, and to continue to develop a coherent and concise policy". She adds "I want to work with you on fixing our broken system, but I can't do that if you're in jail." The Senator and the Governor attend a fundraiser in Nassau Bay.

October 21 to October 25: Senator Clinton returns to New Hampshire for another phase of her Listening Tour. She begins with a town hall meeting in Rochester and then holds a series of meetings on environmental conservation in Berlin with Senator Jeanne Shaheen. Senator Clinton goes to the University of New Hampshire and does an interview with WUNH, the student radio station on campus. She uses this opportunity to talk about her plan to make higher education more affordable, including going after predatory loan companies, expanding loan forgiveness programs for public sector employees, and protecting students from "viscous" for-profit schools.

October 26: Senator Clinton drives to Boston. She holds an event at Faneuil Hall to receive Mayor Tom Manino's endorsement. At the event, she applauds Menino's work with Mayors Against Illegal Guns and stresses her commitment to ensuring "the only people with guns are the people who should have guns".

October 27 to October 30: The Clinton Campaign moves to South Carolina for the first time. With former President Clinton by her side, Senator Clinton meets with African American community leaders in Columbia, public school children in Mount Pleasant, and workers at Coastal Corrugated, Inc. in Myrtle Beach. On Sunday, October 29, the Clintons attend service at Mt. Zion AME Church in Greeleyville, which President Clinton dedicated in 1996.

October 31: Moving from South Carolina to Florida, Senator Clinton is joined by Senator Bill Nelson. The pair of Senators meet with voters at Big Pink diner in Miami and then hold a town hall meeting with senior citizens at Bay Oaks Historic Retirement Residence. At the town hall, Senator Clinton pledges to protect Social Security, reforming it to give benefits to people who leave the workforce to care for retired loved ones, and preserving the retirement age at 65.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
In the News:
Chambliss out, Fletcher enters the GOP Primary:
Maloney narrowly defeats Tomblin in West Virginia:

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The GOP field has begun to shift as October begins, with the first candidate to drop out doin so and a new (and unlikely challenger) stepping into the field. Senator Saxby Chambliss had shown some promises as a potential candidate, yet his campaign soon became unraveled by attempts to bring "Birtherism" as a political tool against fellow candidate Bobby Jindal. With such tactics backfiring (and arguably boosting Jindal as well), polling at 1% and devoid of financial support, Senator Chambliss ended his campaign today, the first casualty in a crowded field.

Amidst speculation that former Speaker Newt Gingrich and other heavyweights in the GOP may be considering a late run to prevent a Romney victory in the primaries, a figure not on the radar of the pundits showed up: the conservative Republican and former Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher made a surprise announce in Ohio that he was entering the GOP Primary, his first major political announcement after his landslide defeat against Steve Beshear in 2007. Unknown to many in the electore, flash polling shows Governor Fletcher at no more than 1% in the national polls, but slightly higher in Iowa and South Carolina. His introduction to the national audience will likely take place in the upcoming GOP debate, a critical moment for his surprise candidacy.

Bad news for the Democratic Party came from Appalachia this week, as after a very heated and competitive race for the Governorship in West Virginia following Joe Manchin's election to the Senate resulted in a narrow victory for Republican businessman Bill Maloney over Acting Governor Earl Ray Tomblin. Maloney, a Tea Party conservative who defeated an establishment candidate in an upset at the GOP Primary, claimed his victory was the signal that the Tea Party was on the rise in the United States, and that the Republican Party could only win by nominating a suitably conservative candidate. West Virginia also saw significant agitation in the past days due to the latest campaign appearances by independent candidate Gen. Wesley Clark, whose long-shot bid for the White House is beginning to take form.

Indeed, the latest polling average by Real Clear Politics shows the following national numbers:

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 48%
Barack Obama: 42%
Wesley Clark: 5%
Undecided: 5%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 06, 2018, 08:59:49 PM
Adam Carolla debate answers part 2


1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

Carolla:Well Obama’s is not ending the War in Iraq technically what he is doing is withdrawing our troops and putting them in Yemen and wants to start a unconstitutional war in Iran which I feel he will do if he were elected for a second term.

What he is going for is silent warfare. We still have some troops but mostly drone and aircraft he is just now coming to start doing drone strikes and air strikes in the area.
 
As President we will get out of Iraq and put our focus on Afghanistan and Pakistan and we will cut funding to the people that we funded when we started that war turned out to be allies of Bin Laden and Al Queda.


In my first term our US Foreign Policy should be finding getting Osama Bin Laden and most of Al Qaeda who probably are in the region of Afghanistan and Pakistan.  When we are done with that I believe our mission will be done

I promise as president if I were to declare war I would fully ask Congress to declare for one and I don’t want to declare any war.

And I will go out and say that we should of withdrawn after Saddam’s death.  Obama’s pull us out too late and I will that will be costly in the future.

However I do believe that we and the UN in a non combat role help out in the rebuilding of Iraq and put in a democracy that holds free elections and respects the rights of Christians and Jews in the Middle East.

2. Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

Carolla:Well as President I will cut federal funding for Planned Parenthood and leave it up to the states.

I believe that I shouldn’t be paying for a abortion with my tax dollars so that someone I have no  knowledge of should have a abortion it’s none of my business.

Washington should do something better with their time they get into a person’s abortion. It should be left to all 50 states not the government.

And also this will save taxpayers like me and you and the federal budget much money.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 06, 2018, 09:42:09 PM
Carolla’s closing statement

Well before I say good night. I started talking about the tea party and I will end talking about Tea Party.

You look at the front runners they are on the side of Speaker Bohener who has fallen into Obama’s trap and has not delivered what you voted for.  Well if you nominate Chris Christie or Mitt Romney you are nominating someone who will act like John Boehner who I know is a enemy to you guys.

As President I will deliver on Tea Party promises. Not just the Libertarian or moderate Republicans.

That is why our campaign’s solgan is A Different Kind Of Republican.

Don’t let the Hollywood past lie to you. I will defend the Free Market and Free Enterprise which I believe is something more powerful than the government will ever be.

President Reagan said it best Govenor is the problem not the solution. And he also put very well that we the people tell the government what to do not the other way around.

And right here is a favorite of mine of what he said.

We the people are the driver and the government is the car and we the car tell the government we’re should it go and what to do.

Thank you all and good night.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 06, 2018, 10:17:40 PM
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11.- To Governor Fletcher: Governor, your last months as Kentucky Governor saw you facing scandal and losing reelection in a landslide. How do you explain this presidential bid in light of past events?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 06, 2018, 10:46:32 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
October 2011 Debate

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Q1: Generally speaking there has been an increase in the concern for environmental policies in the past few years, matched by the rising concerns of people in states like West Virginia that such policies harm their employment. Where do you stand on this?


Clinton: Our environment is the most important policy issue, in the grand scheme of things, because of the tremendous impact it has on our ability to survive as a species on this planet. I'll give President Obama some credit here, he's done a lot of good work on protecting the environment. We should continue that work that he's begun, holding polluters accountable and continuing our dialogue with other countries to develop a global solution to climate change. But where President Obama hasn't done such a good job is protecting the people who lose their jobs because of the transition to a greener society. We need to invest serious federal money into re-training coal workers into new roles in a new economy. I'm serious about this: we cannot go green and leave the hardworking men and women of coal country high and dry. I'm willing to committ $30 billion to the revitalization of coal communities, through job training, small business development, and infrastructure investment.

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Q2: Immigration is also an issue at the heart of current political debate, particularly prominent in the border states. What would you say is the right solution to the immigration issue?

Clinton: I have a clear, three-point immigration plan. First: We need to protect children who, through no fault of their own, were brought to this country illegally by their parents. How can we punish a child who knows no other home than America and send them to the country they were born in? Second: We need to establish a clear pathway to citizenship, similar to the one that President Obama promised in 2008 but has failed to deliver on. What I'm proposing is a 13-year process, where people who came here illegally but is in good standing with the law and their community can pay a fine and some back-taxes and have the opportunity to become a citizen opened to them. President Obama made this one of his campaign promises but, like so many promises of his, failed to make it into policy. Third: We need to conduct humane removals of illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes and pose a threat to their community. There are some people who come here and do harm and we just can't have that. I believe in making America a kind and open nation, but we can't be taken advantage of.

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Candidate Question: Senator, during the 2008 primary there were several conservative Democrats which proved crucial to some of your most relevant victories against President Obama. Yet some polls show several of them may be rather attracted to some of what Governor Bredesen has to say. Why would you represent a better option for them instead of the Governor?

Clinton: I think it comes down to experience. I've spent the last 12 years in the United States Senate, crafting our national policy and steering the course of the nation. As First Lady, I spent 8 years representing our country on the world stage. As First Lady of Arkansas, I spent 12 years managing the relationship between the State government and the Federal government. I know how to make legislation, I know how to pass legislation, and I know how to balance the needs of a State with the needs of the Federal Government. We need a President who can hit the ground running on Day One, utilize the post-election political capital to kick start an administration, and make the most out of the First 100 Days. Governor Bredesen has never spent a day in Washington. I'm not going to write-off his experience in Tenneessee, making laws and passing legislation there, but there's a world a difference between the Teneessee State Legislature and the United States Congress.

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Closing Statement

Clinton: This election is about so much more than personalities. Sure, I would like it if you liked me. But that's not what our elections are about. The Presidency of the United States is far more importance than the popularity contests that decide Prom King. We need a President with strong, well-thought out policies and a plan to impliment them. We need a President who understands the demands of the office. We need a President who can start working on Day One. We don't need a President who you want to have a beer with, we need a President you trust to respond when the phone rings at 3:00 AM.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 06, 2018, 11:09:07 PM
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Romney Responses: Second Debate
Part 2

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The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

In 2007 Barack Obama promised Americans that our troops in Iraq would be out of the country in a little over a year. Here we are over 3 years later -- our troops still in Iraq, and President Obama facing major competition in the Democratic Primary. Obama knows he is vulnerable in this election, and his announcement to now withdraw troops from Iraq is no more than a blatant political maneuver to save his image as a President who broke his promises.

Let's look at the facts. Over 4,000 brave Americans have lost their lives in Iraq since 2003. The orderly transition and stability the people of Iraq were promised still hasn't arrived, and if we pull out now, those American sacrifices made will be in vein. It's clear this move isn't a part of a true military strategy -- its an act of political desperation.

America does need to get out of Iraq -- that's the bottom line -- but we cannot leave until we are sure our near decade of work in the country and thousands of lives lost, both Iraqi and American, were lost securing the freedom of a nation overwhelmed by extremism and instability. If I'm elected I'll do what our current President won't -- firmly negotiate with Iraqi leaders to secure a stable transition, and ensure we leave Iraq a better place than it was in 2003 -- which right now looks unlikely.

America deserves a President that acts on what is right, not on what is politically rewarding to them. America deserves a President who will live up to their promises and not write the country a blank check. America deserves a President willing to stand up for itself, and promote freedom around the world. Barack Obama has had his time, and he has failed. Let's elect someone who can bring real change to Iraq, and who can tell the families of our fallen soldiers that their sons and daughters did not lose their lives in vein.

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Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

I am a man of faith. My faith guides my moral philosophy and my outlook on the world, and I would say the issue of abortion is no different. I am a proud defender of life before birth, and would absolutely consider myself pro-life.

There are only three exceptions in which I believe abortion should be limited to: instances of rape or incest, or when the mother's life is at risk. I support the reversal of Roe V. Wade, and if elected will appoint judges that share that belief -- it's bad law and bad medicine, simple as that.

I support the Hyde Amendment, which bars the use of federal funds to support abortions. I'll also stop the United States from using foreign aid to fund abortions abroad. We shouldn't be spending taxpayer dollars to fund abortions globally, let alone in our own borders. Under a Romney administration, Planned Parenthood would also be federally de-funded.

I think it's pretty simple. Human life begins at conception -- that's a scientific fact. I would even question your suggestion that there is significant disagreement on this within the party, as it's been included in our platform since 2004. When we talk about abortion, people forget that it's not just one life involved, but two. As President, I would ensure that we defend and protect both lives involved, and have judges that do the same.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 06, 2018, 11:37:49 PM
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Campaign Schedule, October 2011

Schedule:
October 1-5: Kentucky
October 6-12: Indiana
October 13-20: Iowa
October 20-25: Georgia
October 26-31: South Carolina

Kentucky (October 1-6)
Rally in Mt. Sterling & Louisville
Meet & Greet around Northern and Eastern Kentucky (typical campaigning things)
Fundraiser in Lexington

Key Issues: Governor Record (education spending increase, tuition tax credits, while lowering taxes) and support of Coal.

Indiana (October 7-13)
Rally in Indianapolis
Meet & Greet around all of Southern and Central Indiana
Publicly endorsed by U.S Representative and Governor Candidate Mike Pence at Rally
Town Hall in Evansville

Key Issues: Abortion (supporting pro- life), Education Spending (supporting an increase)

Iowa (October 14-20)
Rally in Iowa City and Cedar Rapids
Meet & Greet across all of Iowa
Town Hall in Sioux City
Fundraiser in Waterloo

Key Issues: Huge SUPPORT for Farm Subsidies and also supporting a Balanced Budget (with Governor record)

Georgia (October 20-25)
Rally in Atlanta and Savannah
Meet & Greet across all of Georgia
Publicly endorsed by FMR Gov. Sonny Perdue at a Rally

Key Issues: Immigration (stronger borders) and Obamacare Repeal

South Carolina (October 26-31)
Rally in Myrtle Beach and Charleston
Meet & Greet across all of South Carolina
Fundraiser in Columbia

Key Issues: Recent Hurricanes & Economic Recovery

Campaign Committee Operations
  • Setting up a social media grassroots movement
  • Creating a website (erniefletcher2012.com)
  • Door-by-door campaigning, mostly in early caucus & primary states

(this is just my first time trying campaigning, I may change it later)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on January 07, 2018, 12:37:23 AM
Trump 2012

Trump focused his efforts in the early primary states, making many controversial statements that attracted major media attention. He mainly appealed to the working class counties in respective states. He also did an interview with Bill O' Reilly, and emphasize his self-funding and anti-lobbying positions.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 07, 2018, 03:03:09 AM
Wesley for America: October Schedule



“...I’ve known Wesley for a long time, I’ve come to him for advice. Now, if you don’t know who I am... I’m a former commanding general who’s come under a lot of controversy. I was forced out by the Obama administration, I won’t lie. I wasn’t liked too much by Bush, either. They’re both totally and wholly unqualified to lead our foreign policy. They’re too militaristic in all the wrong places, I say we should elect a General, I mean imagine the implication. Guys, he’s an independent, a war hero, someone who actively fights against the corruption in Washington!!! How much better can you get?!?My goodness, America, I don’t really make political endorsements, but Clark’s my guy. Anyways, It’s my great honor to introduce a hard working American hero, a devoted father and husband, an honest American citizen and the next President of the United States, Wesley Clark!!!...”

Rally in Columbia, SC (Attendance: 4,021)
Rally in Myrtle Beach, SC (Attendance: 7,899)

Rally in Charleston, SC (Attendance: 4,500)

October 26th, 2011-October 31st, 2011

Rally in Cedar Rapids, IA (Attendance: 15,499):

”...Ah, Iowa! Here comes the time of year where candidates beg for your votes and take phony positions on issues and lie to you for your support!!! Great, right? *loud boos* Yep, I wont lie to ya Iowa, I’ll tell it like how it is. I won’t ever pander and lie to get elected. I’ll be real to you. I’ll shake up Washington. I’ll bring real hope and change. *loud applause*...”

Rally in Iowa City, IA (Attendance: 14,403)
Rally in Ames, IA (Attendance: 12,309)

Rally in Des Moines, IA (Attendance: 16,788)

Rally in Minneapolis, MN (Attendance: 18,901)
Fundraising in Minneapolis, MN

General Clark took the rest of the month off to relax with his family.

Endorsements this turn: Fmr. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, Fmr. Gen. Stanley McChrystal


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 07, 2018, 03:20:48 AM
Ad: Service
(Narrated by his son)

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Who is Wesley Clark you may ask?

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Wesley Clark was born in a small town in Arkansas on a cold December night. He was raised in a small, middle income household.

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His family taught him the values of service and hard work, and when America came calling, Wesley served. He finished high in his military class, and he was sent off to Vietnam.

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He took four rounds to his body from an AK-47 but still gave commands on the battlefield, and was given the Silver Star.

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His work after the war was well known to commanders, working to help the Vietnam Veterans Memorial happen, and becoming an adviser to the Supreme Allied Commander, Alexander Haig. Wesley’s tactics changed post-Vietnam combat, earning him a promotion to Major General.

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When duty called, he served his county Valiantly in Kosovo. He bravely led many U.S troops, but soon a different duty came to him. He saw what was happening under the reign of President Bush and spoke out. He revealed how much of a travesty his presidency had been, and what it was going to be. He announced his candidacy for President in 2004. As you can tell, he didn’t win, and if he did things sure would have been a heck of a lot different.

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My dad saw how terrible things were under the Obama administration too, and how the President broke promises again. This time, he said he’s done with the two party system. My dad is running for President. Will you help him? Will you call my father to duty, once more?

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”I’m Wesley Clark, and I approve this message!”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 07, 2018, 03:25:29 AM
Official Statement from Wesley Clark on the Libya Crisis:

”We need to stay out of Middle Eastern quagmires. Have we learned nothing from Iraq? General Clark is a former GENERAL, a military man, and he’s saying STAY OUT!!! Mr. Obama, how unqualified to deal with this crisis are you? There is no reason any American should be part of the mindless bloodshed!”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 07, 2018, 12:01:45 PM
Bredesen's reply to Senator Hillary Clinton the debate

Excuse me, Senator, if I can speak? I have to say that I'm not a Senator and I agree, I don't have the experience of Washington behind me. That's a fact. But, I've been a governor since 2002 in Tennessee and there I saw the issues of Tennessee first hand. I was mayor of Nashville and there I helped the city become greater than you think.I was the head of a small businesses that now has over 6000 employees and growing and I started it on my Kitchen table. Senator Clinton, I haven't been in Government for a year so I might be a tad rusty but in 2010 I traveled TN and Appalachia and saw the policies that the government in Washington was doing to them and I am sure you don't know how real Americans in the South are doing after the 90s. Senator, you claim to be fighting for the American citizen but have you ever taken time off to look at the states and travel them to talk to the people there? I have and I met a 30 year old man who worked in the coal mine in West Virginia. I won't name him but he said he was afraid that since I was a Democrat I would want to get rid of his job. I asked him how his family was doing, his answer of them just getting along and that the job in the coal mine is the only way he can pay the bills broke my heart. I promised to him that I would try my hardest to make sure he keeps his job and won't use it. That is Appalachia, Senator Clinton. That is the America you claim to know but you really don't. And, forgive me for bringing up harsh memories, but I must remind you that the American people rejected you in 2008. What makes you think they would want you 4 years later?

Thank you for letting me respond.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 07, 2018, 12:52:56 PM
'Who is Phil?' Ad set to run in Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, Nevada, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Missouri, and Arkansas from October 28th-November 17th

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Who is Phil Breseden, you may be asking yourself. Here is my life story.

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I was born on November 21st in 1943 in Oceanport, New Jersey. My father was a captain in the US Army Signal Corps and for the first 8 years of my life, we moved several times to several cities including Arlington, Massachusetts and Canandaigua, New York due to my father's job

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In 1951, my parents separated and I would live with my maternal Grandmother in a small town called Shortsville, New York. From that Small Town, I learned how to be a real American and work my hardest to succeed in life.

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in 1961, I attended Harvard College and would Graduate in 1967. It's true that I Campaigned for Eugene McCarthy in 1968 and that I ran for Massachusetts Senate in 1969 where I learned that life can be challenging and even if you try your hardest, you'll still have a chance to lose. In 1975, my family moved to Nashville, Tennessee. Before that, I gained my first business experience by working for G.D. Searle and Company for 4 years before we moved down to Nashville. From there I founded HealthAmerica Corp. In which I would sell my company after it grew to have over 6000 employees in 1986 on the New York Stock Exchange. Because of the money I earned from the company, I did not accept my gubernatorial salary during my tenure as TN Governor.

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In 1991, I was elected mayor of Nashville. Sure, the job wasn't easy, but I helped the city prepare for the future. In 2002, I became governor of Tennessee and the rest is History. I'm sure I have skipped over a few things but I can answer the questions for you if you ask me. Now that you know about me, what is your thoughts on me? Do I gain your vote or will you vote for more of the same rather than someone who was really successful so far in his Political career?

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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this Message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 07, 2018, 04:54:29 PM
Bredesen's reply to Senator Hillary Clinton the debate

Excuse me, Senator, if I can speak? I have to say that I'm not a Senator and I agree, I don't have the experience of Washington behind me. That's a fact. But, I've been a governor since 2002 in Tennessee and there I saw the issues of Tennessee first hand. I was mayor of Nashville and there I helped the city become greater than you think.I was the head of a small businesses that now has over 6000 employees and growing and I started it on my Kitchen table. Senator Clinton, I haven't been in Government for a year so I might be a tad rusty but in 2010 I traveled TN and Appalachia and saw the policies that the government in Washington was doing to them and I am sure you don't know how real Americans in the South are doing after the 90s. Senator, you claim to be fighting for the American citizen but have you ever taken time off to look at the states and travel them to talk to the people there? I have and I met a 30 year old man who worked in the coal mine in West Virginia. I won't name him but he said he was afraid that since I was a Democrat I would want to get rid of his job. I asked him how his family was doing, his answer of them just getting along and that the job in the coal mine is the only way he can pay the bills broke my heart. I promised to him that I would try my hardest to make sure he keeps his job and won't use it. That is Appalachia, Senator Clinton. That is the America you claim to know but you really don't. And, forgive me for bringing up harsh memories, but I must remind you that the American people rejected you in 2008. What makes you think they would want you 4 years later?

Thank you for letting me respond.


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Clinton: Governor, this is a charge I've faced my entire career: that I'm a big city liberal who claims to be a champion of rural, working class voters. And every time I respond the same way. Most of my life, I lived in Arkansas, a rural, Southern state. Actually, Governor, Arkansas is more rural than Tennessee is. I've traveled to every corner of the Natural State, during my 12 years as First Lady of Arkansas and since, and I've seen first hand the struggles of rural communities. That's why I pressured the Federal Government and secured federal funds to expand access to medical facilities in the most rural communities of the state. Even more than that, Governor, there's more to New York than the City. 60% of the state's population live outside of New York City. That's nearly 10 million people. I've represented every citizen of the State of New York - from cities like New York and Buffalo and rural communities in the Adirondacks - equally over the last twelve years. As you and the American people at home just heard, I have a comprehensive plan to respond to the transition to a greener economy without leaving coal workers in the cold.

You brought up 2008. Well, let's talk about it then, Governor. The American people did not "reject" me, as you claim they did. Thousands of voters in Florida and Michigan were told their votes didn't count. Michigan received no representation at the DNC in Colorado, Florida received half of the votes it should have. If you include the votes from the hardworking men and women in Michigan who came out to vote despite them being told by the DNC their votes didn't matter, I won the popular vote nationwide. If Michigan and Florida had been treated fairly, maybe 2008 would have happened differently. But I don't have a time-machine, so there's no speculating about what could have been. There was no overwhelming rejection by the American people of my campaign in 2008 that you claim there was; there was a rejection of my campaign by the Democratic Party establishment, through superdelegates and the unfair treatment of Florida and Michigan, two states critical to any Democratic General Election victory.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 07, 2018, 07:23:55 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #2
A Plan For Working Families, Airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, New York, Maine, Arizona, and Michigan

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- Scene shifts to various clips of families getting ready for work in the morning, driving to school, parents at work and kids at school, coming home at the end of the day, sitting and watching TV at night, and parents putting the kids to bed -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): All across this country, families are struggling because they don't have the resources they need or the opportunities they deserve. The economy has not recovered from the Great Recession and many families are still suffering. That's why we need a comprehensive plan to address the needs of working families. My platform calls for the largest middle class tax cut in history, to give people more freedom with their money. My administration will aggressively pursue companies that export jobs and keep their money in off-shore accounts, to keep our businesses fair. My plan recognizes that education is the key to opportunity, which is why we will work to create better public schools for our children and increase federal aid for adults returning to school. Together, we can build a country that works for working families.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

Hillary Clinton Ad #3
Ready for the Job, Airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan

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- Scene opens with generic clips of global conflict, including riots, armed men in jeeps, and similar scenes -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Riots, rebellion, and tension rock the global landscape. Every day, there is a new crisis for the President to respond to. The White House operates 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and the President needs to be able to handle anything that may come up.

- Scene cuts to Hillary Clinton in Armed Forces Committee meetings, Hillary Clinton with world leaders as First Lady and Senator, and Hillary Clinton meeting with military and police leaders -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): No one is as qualified to step up to these challenges as Senator Hillary Clinton. As First Lady, she stood on the world stage and declared "women's rights are human rights". She aggressively pursued human rights legislation and fought for the rights of women and girls across the globe. As Senator, she's spent twelve years on the Armed Forces Committee, standing up for out active duty soldiers and our veterans.

- Scene cuts to Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail in New Hampshire, speaking at a VFW -

HILLARY: We need to remember that we are the most powerful country on the face of the earth. We have control of the largest nuclear force ever seen. The rest of the world looks to us in times of crisis. A President needs to be calm and stable, and be able to respond to the crises that come across the President's desk on a daily basis with a cool mind and steady hand.

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Hillary Clinton is ready for the job of being President on Day One.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 07, 2018, 07:42:14 PM
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Campaign Schedule, September 2011

Constants:
ALWAYS visit small towns and hold town halls and local events
ALWAYS visit college campuses and meet with campus political groups, both Republican and non-partisan
ALWAYS try to eat lunch at local restaurants, with locals
ALWAYS do research on new small towns, including local leaders, issues, etc. so that I am able to talk about local issues an connect with voters
ALWAYS visit small businesses and talk to workers, owners, etc.
ALWAYS keep note of who I meet, and bring them up in future speeches and debates
ALWAYS talk to anyone who wants to, no matter who they are or what their political affiliation is
ALWAYS take one day of break in each state I visit. Keep morale up among the team, and take more breaks if necessary to keep energy high.

Schedule:
October 1-6: Iowa
October 7-12: New Hampshire
October 13-19: South Carolina
October 20-25: Florida
October 26-31: Nevada

Iowa (Oct. 1-6)
Hold rallies in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Davenport, Dubuque, Waterloo, Sioux City
Hold town halls in small towns while touring the state
Visit small businesses, factories, farms, middle class neighborhoods
Emphasize job growth, Obamacare, trade

New Hampshire (Oct. 7-12)
Hold rallies in Concord, Manchester, Portsmouth
Hold town halls in small towns while touring the state
Visit small businesses, factories, farms, middle class neighborhoods
Hold events with Kelly Ayotte across state.
Emphasize Iraq and Libya policy, cutting regulations

South Carolina (Oct. 13-19)
Hold rallies in Charleston, Columbia, Greenville
Hold town halls in small towns while touring the state
Visit small businesses, factories, farms, middle class neighborhoods
Hold events with Nikki Haley across state
Emphasize Obamacare repeal, tour hospitals and talk to workers, administrators

Florida (Oct. 20-25)

Hold Rallies in Miami, St. Petersburg/Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Tallahassee
Hold town halls in small towns while touring the state
Visit small businesses, factories, farms, middle class neighborhoods
Emphasize: Obamacare, foreign policy

Nevada (Oct. 26-31)
Hold Rallies in Reno, Las Vegas, Henderson, Carson City
Hold town halls in small towns while touring the state
Visit small businesses, factories, farms, middle class neighborhoods
Endorsements by Sen. Heller and Gov. Sandoval
Emphasize immigration, trade policy

To campaign staff: Focus on volunteer recruitment efforts and staffing at state HQs, especially in the first contests. In early stages of outreach, spread the word about Romney’s background, credentials, and vision for America.

Speeches and specific details will be posted throughout the turn.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 07, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
2nd Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher
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Debate Answers and Responses


General Questions

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The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

The war is such a big part of America's modern policy. It's been at least 1 or 2 years since that policy should've taken effect according to Obama's promise. That didn't happen. It is only now he can deliver this promise, and the fact he can only deliver on it during an election season is glaring political opportunism.

If we intend to move out of Iraq responsibly, we need to ensure our time there doesn't go to waste. We need to leave Iraq with no possible reason to come back and spend another couple trillion dollars in taxpayer money.

So let's not give us another reason to start another war and spend trillions, rather just use the ideas of common Sense.


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Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

Well, if America doesn't know already, I've been pro- life all of my life. Consistently, and I've never turned my back on that position. I'll proudly defend my pro- life positions. What I'd like to do is keep abortion funding out of our budget because it really, really doesn't belong there.

As President, I will never, ever support abortion or use taxpayer money to fund it. As a doctor myself, it doesn't sit right with me or most of Americans. However, like many Americans, I have a middle ground. That is rape, incest, and a threat to the mother's life. And I'll make sure to uphold a pro- life policy because I'm one of the few Republicans that have been consistent on it.

Bottom line is that I do not support Roe v. Wade, and again, I'm one of the few Republicans that never have here. And on that note, consistency is something I find very little in politicians.

Candidate Specific Questions

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To Governor Fletcher: Governor, your last months as Kentucky Governor saw you facing scandal and losing reelection in a landslide. How do you explain this presidential bid in light of past events?

Thank you for the question, Moderator. I explain my bid like this: These past events were made specifically to play a game of political gotcha and dirty politics. A game the majority of Americans disapprove of and for good reason. I believe the work I did as governor greatly overshadows this scandal, and overall, I'm more proud of that.

I'm more proud that we reversed a billion dollar deficit, raised infrastructure & education spending, offered tuition tax credits, and much more, all while we lowered taxes. The idea that a scandal I was never convicted on overshadows this is a political scam.

I share the disappointment and dissatisfaction of the American people of the political rhetoric of our nation's leaders and our current administration. The fact is the political machine of our nation's leaders is a failed system that has served no Americans except itself. As President, I will not play this game of political gotcha and it's about time we end it in Washington.


Rebuttals and Responses

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From Governor Romney: I am a man of faith. My faith guides my moral philosophy and my outlook on the world, and I would say the issue of abortion is no different. I am a proud defender of life before birth, and would absolutely consider myself pro-life.

There are only three exceptions in which I believe abortion should be limited to: instances of rape or incest, or when the mother's life is at risk. I support the reversal of Roe V. Wade, and if elected will appoint judges that share that belief -- it's bad law and bad medicine, simple as that.

I support the Hyde Amendment, which bars the use of federal funds to support abortions. I'll also stop the United States from using foreign aid to fund abortions abroad. We shouldn't be spending taxpayer dollars to fund abortions globally, let alone in our own borders. Under a Romney administration, Planned Parenthood would also be federally de-funded.

I think it's pretty simple. Human life begins at conception -- that's a scientific fact. I would even question your suggestion that there is significant disagreement on this within the party, as it's been included in our platform since 2004. When we talk about abortion, people forget that it's not just one life involved, but two. As President, I would ensure that we defend and protect both lives involved, and have judges that do the same.

Governor Romney, let me say that you are one of the candidates up here that have not stayed consistent on the Abortion issue. On a televised debate less than a decade ago, you stated that you would "preserve and protect a woman's right to choose and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard."

How can you really say you're pro- life?


Closing Statement


Overall, this election cannot be about old ideas. This election MUST be about new and consistent ideas, and I'm determined to present and argue on behalf of those ideas. Ideas that deliver.
Let's win the future.




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 07, 2018, 08:21:18 PM
Romney 2012 Ad #4
"The Obama Economy"

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Since Obama took office, I've had to lay off 40 of my 60 employees -- folks with families to feed and mortgages to pay off.
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Six months ago I had to file for bankruptcy... I don't know how much longer we'll be in business
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My family has owned our business for four generations. What am I supposed to do now that the recovery President Obama promised never came?
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My name is Traci Bratton, and the Obama economy is not working for small business owners like me.
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My name is Miguel Guajardo, and the Obama economy is not working.
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My name is Peter Mondrose, and the Obama economy has failed America.
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That's why I'm touring America talking to small business owners. I want to get to know and make a pact with the backbone of the American economy so that as your President we can fix our small business crisis.
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I'm dedicated to lowering the taxes of hardworking Americans who deserve more than the past four years have given them. Our small businesses deserve to flourish, and I know that cutting excess red tape and getting the government out of the way of the American people is the only way forward.
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When casting your vote this primary season, vote for the candidate that is dedicated to growing American jobs -- and has the business experience to do it.
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I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 07, 2018, 08:53:31 PM
Response to Gov. Fletcher

Governor, you just told the American people you're running for President because you're sick of "gotcha" politics, yet that is what you have just played.

Governor, you're right, back in 1994 my stance on abortion was more liberal than it was today, but it is unfair to take a single statement from 20 years ago and paint my views as if they are black and white. The truth is, governor, with issues as personal as abortion, people often must take a personal journey to develop their views.

Let me give you and the American people the full story, Governor.

Many, many years ago, I had a dear family relative that I was very close to who passed away from an illegal abortion. After that tragic and needless incident, my family became committed to upholding current laws to prevent anyone from feeling the same pain that we did. That is what shaped my view on abortion until I became Governor of Massachusetts.

My position changed during the stem-cell research debate. The provost of Harvard and the head of stem-cell research came into my office and at one point said that stem-cell research was not a moral issue because they killed the embryo at 14 days. And it hit me hard at that very moment that the Roe v. Wade philosophy had cheapened the value of human life. And I said to my chief of staff, who was with me in the meeting, as we came outside, “I am no longer content with the description of my position. I want to call myself pro-life.”

It's easy in politics to paint issues as black and white, Governor -- to play "gotcha politics," as you put it. That's easy to do. It's hard to tell personal stories, stories of growth, change, and emotion.

So sure, 20 years ago my views on abortion were different than they are today. That doesn't make me any less willing to defend the right to life, it just makes my position more nuanced. To prevent the illegal abortions that took the life of my family member, I believe that abortions in the case of rape, incest, or threat to the mother's health should still be legal. To prevent the needless loss of unborn human life, I support wholeheartedly pro-life policies.

So please, Governor, I agree with you. Let's stop playing "gotcha politics" and tell the full story. It may not be easy for me to say, or for people to hear, but it's the right thing to do.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 07, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
Carolla campaign ad on Romney’s Planned Parenthood flip flop
Airs in all 50 states

*Voice Over*

Narrator:*Clip Of Mitt Romney’s speech at the debate about abortion and being pro life*
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Mr Romney claims to be pro life and that he will fight to cut funding for Planned Parenthood good.

However in 2007 a article came to life that by ABC news showed that Governor Romney and his 1994 Senate campaign and his wife donated 150 dollar donation to Planned Parenthood.

And it doesn’t stop their until 2004 the Romney’s kept donating to Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood causes.

Just another lie from the Establishment.

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Adam Carolla will fight to defund Planned Parenthood and keep his word on it.

He will get it out of the government and out of your tax dollars.

Defunding Planned Parenthood hood would save us 500$ million dollars and keep us more money that will help us balence the budget.

I’m Adam Carolla and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 07, 2018, 10:36:47 PM
"A Governor with a Good Record"
A 2012 Presidential Election Ad


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"On October 1st, I began my campaign for President as a former Governor, Doctor, and CEO. So, just where does my record go?"


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"Here in Kentucky, we reduced state taxes on almost everyone, especially the more unfortunate and poor"


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"Even after the tech boom, we grew thousands of tech jobs."


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"Our student's education flourished with a 25% expansion to their spending"


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"But our teachers weren't left out"


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"And all that with a balanced budget, reversing the billion dollar deficit in Kentucky. So, who am I? I'm a lot of things, but most importantly, a governor with a good record."



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 07, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
Governor Jindal's 2nd Debate Answers

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1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

I'll get straight to the point: no. If we withdraw from Iraq now, it will create a power vacuum. No matter whether you believe that the Iraq War was a good thing or a bad thing: we're there now. And if we pull them out now, we would leave Iraq half-finished and in a more turbulent state than before. So many members of our military have given their lives to this cause, and many more families have been caused suffering because of this. Now we should let all of this sacrifice go to nothing? That would be irresponsible, and frankly disrespectful. Obama's decision will cause much more suffering than relief.

What I would do, if elected President, is to make sure when we eventually pull out--which would not be now--we would walk home with three things. First, a country that is more stable than we left it. Second, a country that can hold free and democratic elections. Third, we can make sure that the Iraqi people will be liberated and that we will be able to achieve what we came to Iraq for--not just to condemn terrorism, but to liberate and help the Iraqi people live normal lives. I hope to achieve this as fast as possible, because we don't need more Americans to sacrifice their lives, however, we will only pull out after these three things are achieved. If we pull out before, we would be doing a great disrespect to those who had to sacrifice their lives.

2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

I'm sure it's a surprise to no one--I'm pro-life and I have always been. I believe that human life begins at conception, because of my faith, and anything else would violate that. The rights of not only the mothers, but also the babies must be respected. These are humans, too. While I believe that there should be lesser restrictions when the life of the mother is in jeopardy, I believe that anything else violates the basic human rights that were endowed to these unborn by their Creator. This should not be an issue of significant debate, as these are human lives at stake.

Here's what I will do, if elected President. I will defund Planned Parenthood. I will support the Hyde Amendment. And I will appoint conservative justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade. This is change. And we need change that will benefit all Americans, no matter whether they can speak for themselves or not!

To Governor Jindal: Governor, much has been made by public figures such as Mr. Trump regarding the place of birth of President Obama. Where do you stand on the "Birther" issue?

As evidenced by the Chambliss campaign, I have myself been accused of not being born in the United States, while in fact I was born in Baton Rouge. Where else would I have been born? New Orleans? (laughs) In all seriousness, the "birther" movement is in no way helping to get conservatives back into the White House. In fact, it is hurting our chances. (direct to camera) I realize you want change. In fact, that is the very reason I am running this campaign. But accusing the President of falsifying documents is not the place to start when you want change. First, it delegitimizes our movement. Many think we stand for these made-up beliefs. Second, what help does it do to conservatives to sit around and throw accusations at Obama? If you want real change, the least you can do get educated on the issues, pick up your bootstraps, and go out and vote. But even better, instead of making up stories, you can learn the facts, join our campaign, and help advocate for our cause of change. Instead of tearing someone down, build something up.

And for the record, I believe Obama was born in Honolulu.

Closing statement


Now, many of you might have heard my debate answers tonight and thought "wow, he sounds like all the other candidates up here". Well, that's because much of the Republican caucus stands in favor of these same issues that were discussed tonight. However, I'll use this closing statement to show why I'm different.

I'm not your average candidate. I'm not accepting money from Super PACs, I've spoken out against lobbying firms (the friends of many of the candidates on this stage tonight), and I go door-to-door in every state I visit and get to know every person I meet. Now, none of this makes my campaign easier. In fact, it makes it a lot harder. Not having a Super PAC means that I don't have a constant stream of money. I won't get endorsements from powerful lobbying firms. And it takes a lot of energy, time, and money to go door-to-door every week.

So why would I do all of this? Shouldn't I be making it easier for me to win? No. Because this campaign isn't about me, it's about all of you. And when I condemn the Washington elites and their style of campaigning in this way, all Americans benefit. Many of the other candidates on this stage won't do this, because they know it takes effort to run a campaign like mine. And if they do, well, they're copying me. (laughs)

But let's get to the nitty gritty. America wants, and needs change. And for us to win in 2012, we don't need a another Washington insider to top the ticket and campaign for the same issues and values that we lost on in 2008. No, we need someone who will be committed to bringing change to America. And so far, I'm the only candidate that fits this bill.

So, America, you're faced with a choice.

If you choose any of the other candidates on this stage, you're choosing the establishment politics of 2008 that cost us the campaign.

If you choose me, then you'll see change. Change not only in our party, but in our political system. In our society. In America.

And America, it's time for change.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 08, 2018, 01:08:33 AM
Response to Governor Romney

Response to Gov. Fletcher

Governor, you just told the American people you're running for President because you're sick of "gotcha" politics, yet that is what you have just played.

Governor, you're right, back in 1994 my stance on abortion was more liberal than it was today, but it is unfair to take a single statement from 20 years ago and paint my views as if they are black and white. The truth is, governor, with issues as personal as abortion, people often must take a personal journey to develop their views.

Let me give you and the American people the full story, Governor.

Many, many years ago, I had a dear family relative that I was very close to who passed away from an illegal abortion. After that tragic and needless incident, my family became committed to upholding current laws to prevent anyone from feeling the same pain that we did. That is what shaped my view on abortion until I became Governor of Massachusetts.

My position changed during the stem-cell research debate. The provost of Harvard and the head of stem-cell research came into my office and at one point said that stem-cell research was not a moral issue because they killed the embryo at 14 days. And it hit me hard at that very moment that the Roe v. Wade philosophy had cheapened the value of human life. And I said to my chief of staff, who was with me in the meeting, as we came outside, “I am no longer content with the description of my position. I want to call myself pro-life.”

It's easy in politics to paint issues as black and white, Governor -- to play "gotcha politics," as you put it. That's easy to do. It's hard to tell personal stories, stories of growth, change, and emotion.

So sure, 20 years ago my views on abortion were different than they are today. That doesn't make me any less willing to defend the right to life, it just makes my position more nuanced. To prevent the illegal abortions that took the life of my family member, I believe that abortions in the case of rape, incest, or threat to the mother's health should still be legal. To prevent the needless loss of unborn human life, I support wholeheartedly pro-life policies.

So please, Governor, I agree with you. Let's stop playing "gotcha politics" and tell the full story. It may not be easy for me to say, or for people to hear, but it's the right thing to do.


Governor, I don't like political games as much as the next person, but these are the issues that matter. They are not political games. They're serious to the people at home. People at home all across the nation that have their own experiences with abortion and why they're pro- life. They want someone who has consistently stood up for that. I've always stood up for life beginning at conception, and Governor Romney, you haven't. You told us one thing in Massachusetts, another thing in New Hampshire, it's a legitimate concern when I ask you what you'll say in D.C. I know a game of political "got ya" when I see it, and Governor Romney, you, evidently, don't.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 08, 2018, 12:25:39 PM
Carolla campaign update for October 2011

Carolla campaigned in Iowa and South Carolla for most of the first half trying to  appeal to the tea party voters.

In his case Carolla named a list of the history of Romney and Christie’s anti Tea Party history and that they are no different than Obama and Hillary on some social issues.

Carolla also campaigned on campaign on NAFTA and free trade agreements once again talking about how they have ruined Iowa.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 08, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
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Debate Answers.

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1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

No, and it's an absolute disgrace that President Obama is playing politics with Iraq. This is what the Obama-Clinton political machine do best; they put their own electoral prospects ahead of the security of the United States.

I wanna make this clear. As President I will never, ever play politics with our national security. The only people who will benefit from withdrawing US troops from Iraq are Al-Qaeda, and the other terrorist groups who will step in the moment we lead. That's where there's three crucial things we've got to do. One, we've got to keep training, supporting and aiding the Iraqi Army, because they'll be the one's doing the heavy lifting, second we should keep a small, rapid protection force in Iraq for the foreseeable future and finally, and I don't think anyone else has actually said this; but we've got proud about promoting Democracy in Iraq.

It's a brilliant thing. Millions of Iraqi's were able to go and carry out there must fundamental right; the right to vote. Millions of women were able to go to the polls, and vote. If we pulled out without any combat troops, without any sort of proper plan we could see this all go up in flames. It's easy to talk about how horrible Obama's policies are, we all know that (cheers)

The hard thing is to put forward you own plans, which I have, and to demonstrate that you've been able to carry them out; I'm the only person on this stage who've put terrorists behind bars. If you want someone as commander in chief who has direct experience at keeping America safe, and promoting the power of American Democracy; then I'm your candidate.

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2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

I'll be honest with viewers, until I first heard my daughters heartbeat in the womb, when she was at 13 weeks, I was a non-thinking pro-choice guy. But when I heard that heartbeat, that precious beat of life, I knew that heartbeat was a life, and I changed my view. I think I'm like a lot of other conservatives in the country, in that I didn't make up my mind by reading a textbook- I made up my mind through the wonders of seeing life.

So I've been strongly pro-life since 1996, and I've carried that into public office. I've de-funded planned parenthood as Governor, I've been very open about supporting banning abortion after 20 weeks, with exceptions for if the child was conceived by rape, or incest, or if the mothers life was in serious risk.

I did all this in a deeply Democratic state; unlike Governor Romney, who in 2002, when running to be Governor of Massachusetts said he ''preserve and protect a woman's right to choose.'' You know in public life you have to make choices; I was honest to the voters of New Jersey about my views on abortion. Mitt Romney decided to do what Mitt Romney always does; weasel away from the issue.

Frankly, for me, this is an issue where you've got to have a moral backbone. As Governor of New Jersey I fought for the cause of the unborn, and I'm proud of the progress we've made.

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2.- To Governor Christie: Governor, while many conservatives and Tea Party figures have expressed their approval of your candidacy, others have commented that your record is not as conservative as they would like. Are you sufficently conservative to appeal to this rising wing of the Republican Party?

Look, I'm a conservative republican from New Jersey. I'm use to taking a bit of flack from the Teaching Unions for being on the far-right, so frankly it's a nice change to have someone question if I'm conservative enough. (chuckles)

But sure, I'm certain that I'm conservative enough. Republican voters, whether they're in Iowa, New Hampshire or Texas want someone who stands up and tells the American people the truth; our spending is out of control, Obamacare is a disaster that we must repeal, and we we need to start getting tough again on American's enemies who want to do us serious harm. A lot of the media folks think that republican voters are looking for politicians who share all there views; they're not. They're looking for someone who has the guts to fight.

In New Jersey I've managed to fight to get serious, real conservative reform done. I've got 700,000 more Democrats than Republicans, but I still managed to pass a balanced budget, without raising taxes. I manged to defeat the big public sector unions to fix the pension system, I defunded planned parenthood and we created 60,000 private sector jobs. That's what real, conservative results look like. If I can do that in one of the bluesiest states, just think what I can do after November when we take back our government.



Well, I guess it was only a matter a time before pundits and spin-masters got hold of one of my statements and twisted it beyond belief.

Let me tell the American people again what they may have already heard me say, except this time I'm going to clarify -- no shifting, no flip-flopping, just clarifying.

First of all I'd like to reiterate that no matter what way you spin it, forcing 11 million people out of the United States is a fool's errand -- its a political promise with no real weight behind it.

Governor Romney, it doesn't matter whether you call it shifting, flip flopping, or even clarifying. Frankly there's only one word that matters- trust.

In 2005 you supported Ted Kennedy's immigration bill that would have provided amnesty. Then you opposed it in 2007 when you wanted to win the Iowa Caucasus. Heck in 2008 you said that you wanted to ideally deport most illegal immigrants within 90 days; now you're saying that's a political promise with no weight behind it.

But really it comes down to trust Governor. We've both governed in deeply blue states; in New Jersey I've fought the public unions, I've won real conservative reform on property taxes and pensions. In Massachusetts you sold out to the Democratic establishment on day one. You're going to get chewed alive by Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

Frankly we need a President who's got the guts to fight.  

Closing Statement

I get asked a lot what I think people want in there next President. And you know what it's simple; they want someone who they know they can trust to fight for them. They don't want someone who can simply reel off a textbook of policies, they don't want someone who says one thing in Iowa, and another in Boston, they don't want another bland, boring candidate promising slow, weak reforms.

I'm the only candidate running who isn't afraid to tell the truth. I don't care whether I'm talking to republicans, or Democrats. To Iowans, or New Yorkers. I'll always say the same thing. I'll tell them that we need to work together again in Washington to cut our run-away entitlement spending, we need to get people back to work by cutting regulations, not by cutting more checks to the special interest groups. 

I've done all this; in fact, I've done all in this in a state that was written off a too democratic, too broke and too divided. I stood up, and fought for real conservative values, and you know what; it worked. Give me the chance to do this in Washington, and join my fight to get this country working again.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 12:45:59 PM
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It's time for change. It's time for Jindal.

Campaign schedule for October

Overview:

New Hampshire: Oct. 1-4 (4 days)
Nevada: Oct. 5-9 (5 days)
Iowa: Oct. 10-15 (6 days)
Florida: Oct. 16-22 (7 days)
South Carolina: Oct. 23-31 (9 days)

Highlights:

New Hampshire ( Oct. 1 - Oct. 4 )
Held rallies in Manchester (kickoff), Hampton, Dover, Rochester, Lebanon
Took a bus tour around the state and held multiple town halls with voters across the state
Went door-to-door in each town
Ate lunch in diners with voters
Key policy: it's time for change, Obamacare repeal, getting workers jobs again

Nevada ( Oct. 5 - Oct. 9 )
Held rallies across the state in Las Vegas, Henderson, Carson City, Ely, Winnemucca
Went door-to-door and spoke with voters
Toured hospitals to talk about Obamacare reform
Ate lunch with voters, talked about plans for the presidency
Key policy: Obamacare reform and repeal, preserving American society, gun rights

Iowa ( Oct. 10 - Oct. 15 )
Held rallies in Dubuque, West Des Moines, Des Moines, Waterloo, Mason City, Ames
Went door-to-door in each town and talked policy
Toured farms, talked agricultural policy with farmers
Ate lunch with even more votes
Held town halls across the state
Key policy: pro-life, tax reform, agriculture policy

Florida ( Oct. 16 - Oct. 22 )
Made speeches in Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Panama City, Melbourne, Ocala, Port St. Lucie, Clearwater, Naples, Lakeland, Jacksonville, Sebring
Toured hospitals to talk Obamacare policy
Grassroots campaigning, went door-to-door in each city
Held more town halls across the state, started dialogues with voters
Took campaign bus across the state and just simply talked with voters
Talked about tax reform with voters, had lunch with them
Endorsement by Sen. Marco Rubio
Fundraised across the state
Talked about repairing America's infrastructure with even more voters
Key policy: tax reform, tourism policy, Obamacare repeal, infrastructure, capital projects, the environment

South Carolina ( Oct. 23 - Oct. 31 )
Made speeches in Columbia, Lexington, Camden, Florence, Lake City (yes, there's another one), Conway, Rock Hill, Greenville, Spartanburg, Simpsonville, Anderson, Charleston
Held many town halls across the state, talked to voters about their concerns
More grassroots campaign across the state, get the message of change out, go door-to-door
Eat lunch with voters
Endorsement by Sen. Jim DeMint
Talked about social conservatism and restoring America's society
Talked about restoring American jobs
Talked about why America needs change
Fundraised with voters
Key policy: pro-life, conservatism, change, Obamacare repeal, infrastructure

Operations:
  • Emphasized a grassroots campaign across every state, and the importance of knocking door-to-door and calling voters, getting the word out
  • Set up ground operations in every state, briefed staff on the campaign
  • Set up structural operations to deal with influx of volunteers across multiple states, including South Carolina, Florida, and Iowa
  • Emphasized to staff to reach out to everyone, no matter their political affiliation
  • Told staff to deliver Jindal's message of change to as many people as possible


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 08, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Response to Gov. Christie

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Governor Romney, it doesn't matter whether you call it shifting, flip flopping, or even clarifying. Frankly there's only one word that matters- trust.

In 2005 you supported Ted Kennedy's immigration bill that would have provided amnesty. Then you opposed it in 2007 when you wanted to win the Iowa Caucasus. Heck in 2008 you said that you wanted to ideally deport most illegal immigrants within 90 days; now you're saying that's a political promise with no weight behind it.

But really it comes down to trust Governor. We've both governed in deeply blue states; in New Jersey I've fought the public unions, I've won real conservative reform on property taxes and pensions. In Massachusetts you sold out to the Democratic establishment on day one. You're going to get chewed alive by Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

Frankly we need a President who's got the guts to fight.

With all due respect, Governor Christie, your argument falls flat as soon as it begins.

Governor, do you remember the comments you made about immigration in 2010? Just last year? Well let me remind you. You called upon Barack Obama personally to "put forward a common sense path to citizenship for people." Governor Christie has also said that being in this country illegally isn't a crime, and is willing to give those that are here illegally a free pass. How do we know this? Because in his time as US Attorney in New Jersey, that job that Governor Christie will tell you all about, he only prosecuted thirteen illegal immigration cases. Compare that to the 597 cases prosecuted in Kansas in the same time period -- I'm no mathematician, but there are a heck of a lot more people in New Jersey than Kansas.

Governor you can try to fool the American people by making a mountain out of a molehill with my statements in Nevada, which are wholly consistent with conservative values, but you cannot fool anyone with this.

Governor Christie wants you, the American people, to believe that because he talks louder than the rest of us and "tells it like it is" that he is somehow more qualified to be President of the United States. Governor, I agree with you on one thing, and that is that this is about trust.

Back when I was Governor of Massachusetts and faced a legislature that was 85% Democrat, I sent over 800 vetoes to policies that weren't conservative or right for our state, and believe me, there were a lot. Governor Christie, however, has let Democrats in New Jersey get to him -- he has stated multiple times that he supports the state's ineffective and incredibly strict gun control laws. So Governor, I have to ask, which one of us was supposed to get chewed alive by the Democrats?

Governor Christie, you are a fighter. You're willing to fight anyone you see as a threat with anything that you think can bring them down. I think the American people want something different. I think the American people want someone with the guts to tell the truth. We've been lied to for three years by the Obama administration, and the last thing we need is to be lied to by someone who tells it like it isn't.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 08, 2018, 03:02:24 PM
Because in his time as US Attorney in New Jersey, that job that Governor Christie will tell you all about, he only prosecuted thirteen illegal immigration cases. Compare that to the 597 cases prosecuted in Kansas in the same time period -- I'm no mathematician, but there are a heck of a lot more people in New Jersey than Kansas

Well that's still thirteen more cases than you ever prosecuted Mitt.

You know it's pretty funny to see the Governor attack my record as a U.S Attorney. Because when I was sat in court, putting the terrorists, and arms smugglers behind bars, you were standing next to Ted Kennedy passing RomneyCare.

You know I'm never going to apologize for the fact that for me, and my office as U.S Attorney our number one priority was to combat terrorism. I'm never going to apologize for helping keep the American people safe. Never.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 08, 2018, 03:05:23 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Schedule

October 1st-5th: Town Halls in New Hampshire.
October 6th: Special Veteran Of Foreign Wars Town Hall/Campaign Events.
October 7th: Fundraisers in Florida with Haley Barbour, and Jon Huntsman Jnr.
October 8th: Campaign Rally in Jacksonville, with Haley Barbour.
October 9th: Visit to Nevada to open new campaign HQ.
October 10th: Campaign Fundraiser in Las Vegas.
October 11th-15th: ''Telling it like it is'' Bus, and Town Hall Tour around Eastern Iowa.
October 16th: Visit to New Mexico, and Speech about Border Security with with Governor Martinez.
October 17th: Campaign Rally, and Fundraiser in Miami with Governor Martinez.
October 18th-23rd: ''Telling it like it is'' Bus and Town Hall Tour in New Hampshire.
October 24th: Meeting with Evangelical leaders in Iowa.
October 25th: Day of media interviews, fundraising and other campaign related events in New Jersey.
October 26th: Speech in New Hampshire: ''Two Choices.''
October 27th: Campaign Rally in Concord, New Hampshire.
October 28th-30th: Bus Tour, and Town Hall events around Western Iowa
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Endorsements

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Governor Haley Barbour

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The campaign is delighted to announce that Haley Barbour, Governor of Mississippi, former chair of the RNC and RGA is endorsing Governor Chris Christie for President. Governor Barbour will be joining as a Senior Campaign adviser, and fundraising director. Governor Barbour has a proven track record for delivering republican victories; best of all in the 1994 republican landslide. In endorsing Governor Christie, Barbour declared ''Chris Christie is the only guy running who can reach out to voters all across America, and bring them together to fix this country. I know, and trust Chris to deliver real, conservative reforms that will benefit all Americans. Governor Barbour will join Governor Christie on the trail later this month.
 

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Governor Susana Martinez

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The Governor of New Mexico, Susana Martinez has announced her endorsement of Governor Chris Christie for President. Martinez has announced that she's 'excited' to hit the trail with the Governor, and said she was 'more than proud' to endorse him. Speaking to reporters Martinez said ''Chris is by far the strongest candidate to unite our party, and reach out to groups, and people who haven't voted for the Republican party before. We face a huge challenge in this country, and the old-school style politics simply won't work. Only Chris can defeat the Obama-Clinton Machine.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 08, 2018, 06:21:32 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Media Appearances

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Martinez: Romney wrong to attack Christie over immigration.

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It was pretty appalling as a former District Attorney, to see Governor Romney attack Governor Christie over his record as a U.S Attorney. The Governor was the first U.S Attorney appointed after 9/11, and as he said in the TV debates, his first priority was Terrorism. This should be the first priority of every U.S Attorney, and all law Enforcement. The Governor was right not to apologize for always putting the safety and security of the American people first.

But really the attacks show that Governor Romney should frankly pick up a law textbook, and understand how you go about being a prosecutor. It's not about how many numbers you rack up on your scoreboard; it's about the quality, the content and the success of the prosecutions. You shouldn't play politics with that. 

it's about the actual results that you get rather than the headline numbers. I know that Governor Romney has only ever seen it from a politicians view, but the cases that Governor Christie brought were vitally important; one case put a man behind bars, who'd helped hundreds of Illegal Aliens obtain false papers, another targeted immigration fraudsters in Pennsylvania, and another case where he prosecuted an immigrant who'd brought child pornography into the US.



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ABC Interview with Governor Christie

Q: Governor, you responded quite forcefully when Governor Romney challenged you over your record prosecuting Immigration laws whilst a U.S Attorney, did Governor Romney manage to rattle you?

Governor Christie: No, Jake, he didn't rattle me. He just disappointed me. Governor Romney for all his virtues has never prosecuted federal law, and frankly at the debate showed that he has no idea what being a prosecutor actually involves. Governor Romney has only ever seen criminal law as a politician; all he cares about is how it looks. When I woke up every morning as a U.S Attorney, I was thinking about who I would put on the stand, Governor Romney was worried about what would be put on the front of the newspapers. We have different priorities.

The truth is that my office, as every other Northeastern U.s Attorney's office was, focused on terrorism after 9/11. Unlike Mitt, I don't make every decision based on the next election. I make it based on what's best for the American public; and that meant devoting the majority of resources to preventing terrorism, as my office did, multiple times.

I don't know what Governor Romney is implying about my record; all I know is that he picked up some numbers of an old Lou Dobbs segment from 2007. If he thinks that I'm somehow relaxed about enforcing immigration law he should ask why I send prosecuted a Chilean immigrant for transporting abusive images or why I prosecuted an immigrant lawyer for falsifying driving licenses for illegals. I worked with ICE, and the FBI almost daily in order to keep New Jersey, and America safe, and frankly I don't appreciate Governor Romney trying to question my service when he standing in an ice-rink in Utah somewhere.

Q.) Do you expect this back and forth will continue with Governor Romney?

Governor Christie: If the Governor continues to manipulate, and distort my record, then I'm going to respond forcefully. The American public are sick of politicians like Governor Romney attacking people for actually putting their neck out on the line every day. Like thousands of other people in the Justice, and National Security departments, when I came into work, the last thing on my mind was how this would play in some distant election. I just got on with the job.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 08, 2018, 06:25:04 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Highlights

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Governor Barbour joins Christie for Florida Rally
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'It's a great honour to be here tonight with Governor Christie folks. You know we've had some dark times over the last couple of years; I've seen the devastation of Hurricane Katrina sweep away people's homes, , I've seen 5th generation businesses be forced to shut their doors. It's heartbreaking.

But you know in times of darkness, the light can be even clearer. This ray of hope is Governor Christie (cheers). I know he won't like me saying that, but I have not felt this happy about someone running for President since Ronald Reagan came up, and banished the darkness of the 1970s.

Some of the older folks can remember what it was like; a Democratic President, deeply unpopular, being challenged by an even more unpopular political dynasty, a recession that was ripping through the country, and a people who did not know where to go. But don't worry friends; we have a fighter in the ring now. Chris here, is the only candidate who can do three simple things.... One, unite our party, two defeat the Democrats, and three... FIX WASHINGTON.

Now I know some of the other folk running. They're good folk (booing) No, No, They are. But Chris is the only one who can connect with the public, we need a President who can talk to the ordinary men, and woman working out there. I mean as a Governor Chris talks to ordinary folk every-day.... and not just when they're fixing his car elevator. (Laughter and Cheers from the Crowd.) 

But really though folks, if we nominate Mitt Romney, we're gonna be nominating the Democratic Party's dream. Look at what happened in Massachusetts; his one big achievement was passing a healthcare law that is virtually identical to President Obama, heck at-least Obamacare had an opt out for abortion, with Romenycare you didn't even get that.''


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Border Security Speech

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''It's great to be here in New Mexico, with Governor Martinez, and to meet with the wonderful, brave men and women who guard our border. I know just how thankless, and difficult the job of our law enforcement agents can be.

Border Security is the one of the most important domestic security issues that we face. But for too long it's an issue that politicians seem to only enjoy sounding tough during elections. But I've had a real stake in security issues; I'm the only person running who's sat in the courtroom, who's filled out search warrants and who's used the PATRIOT Act to make sure that those who wish to harm the United States, are not able to do.

Just last month I outlined my counter-terrorism strategy, now I wish to outline how I protect, defend and strengthen the U.S border. The first, and most vital task is to maintain a strong, secure relationship with Mexico, who are just as concerned about terrorism and crime flowing through the border, as we are. Second it's a disgrace that congress has not provided more funding to the Secure Border Initiative. It's vital that we use the most up to date technology; from Drones to sensors, to monitor and guard our border. One of my first acts as President will be forcing to Congress to get to work, and refund the program. Thirdly, the Federal Government should empower local, and state police forces on the border states to play a vital, and much needed support role in Border Security. Fourth, we should encourage other federal agencies to play a larger role; from the DEA, the FBI, to the AFT, we should allow these units to be further embedded into Border Patrols. We also need to tackle the gangs, and people smugglers, on both sides of the borders who seek to profit of this obscene trafficking.   


Governor Christie holds a town Hall in Sioux City
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I became pro-life in 1996. I was like a fair amount of pro-choice people, I'd never really thought about it that much, I'd been lazy ya know? But then when I found out Mary Pat was Pregnant, we went into the hospital, and I heard something beautiful. I heard the 13 week old heartbeat of our daughter. I froze. All I could hear was that beat of life. I remember on the car-ride home thinking, how could I be pro-choice, how could I support something that would destroy that?

I didn't become pro-life by having a conversation with an Academic. I didn't do what Governor Romney did, and tell voters in Massachusetts I was pro-choice, and then tell voters here in Iowa I was pro-life. I was honest to the people of New Jersey; I told them I was proudly pro-life, and nothing would change that. Heck a lot of them disagreed with me, but you know what. They respect you a hell of a lot more if you tell them the truth.

Even in New Jersey I've managed to fight for the pro-life cause; I defunded planned parenthood, and scrapped family planning services which funded abortion services. We got a lot done. Now I'm not going to come here, and tell you that if you support me, then in the first week of my Presidency, we'll repeal Roe v Wade, but I'm telling you this.... when I heard that heartbeat in 1996, it changed me. What I can promise is that I'll remember that heart beat for every day that I'm in office,


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 10:06:32 PM
Manchester, NH

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Hello Manchester!

cheers

I'm so glad to spend the first day of October campaigning here, in the beautiful state of New Hampshire! No offence Louisiana, but we just don't have the scenic drives like they do here.

laughs

I've said this campaign is all about change. And it is. So the next reform I'd like to cover is tax reform. We currently have a very complex tax system of multiple brackets for businesses and for taxpayers. What I will do, if elected President, is to create a complete overhaul of our system by introducing a 15% flat tax rate, with a minimum of $100.

cheers

And I haven't got to the best part yet. After my tax plan is implemented, the American economy will see a 16% increase in the long-term. Wages would be 11% higher. And due to the reduction of marginal tax rates on individual income, 5.2 million new full-time jobs would be created over the same period time as there would be a greater incentive to work!

cheers

All from a simpler tax system. And if you vote for me, you won't just see change in our political system, you'll see change everywhere! Because it's time for change. It's time for Jindal! Thank you Manchester, thank you New Hampshire, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 10:17:50 PM
Carson City, NV

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Hello Nevada! I've taken a few hours out of my day as House Majority Whip to come over here to this great state! Now, I bet you already know why I'm here. But I'll say it anyway.

laughs

The Republican Party is having one of the most fractured primaries in a long while. There are many candidates that have been courting your vote, and I bet by now they all look the same.

laughs

All but one. One candidate is standing up against the Washington insiders. One candidate is searching for change. One candidate is different from all the others.

And his name is Bobby Jindal.

cheers

I have never before seen a Republican candidate refuse a Super PAC's help. And none of the field right now certainly is. But Bobby's a different kind of a candidate. He's working for America, not the corporate bigwigs or the Washington insiders. He's got a plan to unite the Republican Party and America. And he puts facts and specifics along with the word "change", not just hot air. And with the state of our field right now, what we need to win in 2012 is change.

cheers

And this is why, ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to announce my official endorsement of my friend and predecessor in the House Bobby Jindal!

loud cheers


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 10:52:59 PM
Waterloo, IA


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Hello Waterloo!

cheers

Obama has done more harm than good for this nation. For example, he has signed the disastrous Trans-Pacific Partnership, through which smaller nations are now able to take advantage of us and many of our workers are being put out of work.

boos

I know. And unemployment is now at record highs, due to these trade deals and many other of Obama's disastrous policy implementations! Well, I believe that it's time for some real change, not the phony change that Obama touted during his campaign.

cheers

If elected President, I promise to renegotiate all of these trade deals, not only the ones Obama signed, but also many of the other agreements that are shutting down factories and destroying jobs all across Iowa and America! Unlike Obama, I won't sell America out. I won't destroy Americans' lives to build up my political career. I'll build up Americans' lives, by considering all of you when I pass a law, not the party establishment! Now that's change!

change

Thank you Waterloo, and God bless Iowa!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 11:12:02 PM
Tampa, FL

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Hello Tampa! Well, today, I'm proud to share the stage with my friend Marco Rubio.

cheers
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Thank you, Bobby. When I saw Bobby announce his campaign, I saw hope. Hope that we have a shot at winning the White House back from Obama's liberal regime. Why? Because Bobby won't just change the Republican Party, he can unify our party. His optimistic message of change is bringing voters from across the party lines and from across different demographic groups. He can unify our party, and he can win this election in November. This is why I am endorsing Jindal for President!

cheers

Bobby's a principled conservative. He knows how to get things done in Washington. While all of the other candidates are just talking about change as one of their campaign points, Bobby has the know-how, the plans, and the passion to actually get change passed through Congress and help benefit all Americans.

cheers

Bobby's just what we need here in Florida. He knows our state, and he knows what change needs to happen here. He's had experience with disaster relief, and he had one of the best hurricane evacuation and relief operations for a governor in American history. He knows that our jobs need to come back, and he's doing something about it. He knows that we need to rebuild our infrastructure, and he has a plan. This is why not just Floridians, but all Americans should vote for Jindal. He not only can defeat Obama in 2012, but he'll make America greater while he's at it!

cheers


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 11:32:04 PM
Greenville, SC

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Now, I know I'm not a very public figure. In fact, I don't often endorse candidates for primaries. But I feel during a time like this, there is only one clear choice for South Carolina and America. And that choice is Bobby Jindal.

cheers

The Republican field right now is of two types of candidates: those who want change and those who don't. And after Obama's disastrous term in office, we need change.

cheers

But not only is Jindal the change candidate, an even better quality about Jindal is that he actually defines his policy, unlike other candidates. He has a plan for Obamacare. He has a plan for infrastructure. He has a plan for Iraq. And it's always better to have a prepared President than one who just stumbles into office like Obama.

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He's had experience running a government as Governor of Louisiana. He was able to pass major tax reform for his state. And if elected President, I could see even better change happening here, in South Carolina. Our economy and workforce were destroyed by the recession. But Jindal knows exactly what to do to get our jobs back. And he knows exactly what to do to get our main streets open again.

cheers

He knows how to get South Carolina and America back on track. And this is why I, Jim DeMint, am officially endorsing Bobby Jindal for President.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 08, 2018, 11:54:23 PM
Lexington, SC

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Hello Lexington!

cheers

Now, there's something that I've noticed for a few years now, and the government isn't doing anything about it. Our infrastructure is falling apart. More bridges, roads, railways, and airports are crumbling. Our power grid is buckling under greater electricity demand than before. Our ports are getting overcrowded. And all of this is getting more susceptible to cyber attacks. In a few minutes, a hacker could completely shut down American society by breaching our weak defenses. Our infrastructure is just not ready for the 21st century.

boos

And on my campaign bus through this great state, I traveled over a few bridges. And I can say, that it is fair to say that South Carolina needs a lot of help. Your scenery is beautiful, but your bridges aren't.

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That's why if I'm elected President, I will make sure these bridges get fixed. I will make sure our airports will get renovated. I will make sure the electric grid is up to date. And I will make sure that through all of this, the people of South Carolina and the American people will benefit, not the corporations and the establishment!

cheers

Thank you Lexington, thank you South Carolina, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 09, 2018, 12:16:56 AM
Ad #1 for Governor Jindal

"Crossroads"

To be aired in South Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire

America is at a crossroads.
(Close up on girl running through wheat field to a road crossing)
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(Girl looks in both directions)

One direction, change.

The other, the same old ways of every other presidency.

One leads to a reborn conservative movement, and the other leads to the death of the conservative movement.
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One advocates for keeping their promises and doing politics differently, and the other advocates to keep the Washington machine running.
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One advocates for a secure nation, and the other advocates what ever the focus groups say.
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And only one advocates for a future.

(Girl runs to the brighter side)
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(Cut to black)





It's decision time.

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I'm Bobby Jindal and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 12:55:33 AM
Walter Jones Debate Responses

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1.- The Obama Administration has set the date of withdrawal from Iraq by December of this year, which would seemingly end a decade of American military presence in the country. Is this withdrawal the right choice to make?

Any decision to reduce our involvement in Iraq is a good one. To call this a "withdrawal," however, is taking the spin from the Obama administration as truth. Let's look into the details on this, folks. We're seeing combat troops leave the region, but in their place, we still have so-called peacekeeping troops on the ground. There are still over 15,000 of our men and women there. We have 5,000 defense contractors in Iraq no matter what. Why would we need these defense contractors if we're not engaging in conflict? It seems to be that President Obama wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to be known as the peace president when the hard work has yet to be done to bring peace in Iraq, and that's an absolute shame.

I changed my mind on the Iraq War because of what I saw on the ground there. We had no clear mission. President Bush never gave a deadline for when we would leave. Obama ran on fixing this mess, but he's only engaging in half-measures now. With a President Jones, withdrawal means withdrawal. I would take all of our troops back home and focus on our problems here at home. Think of how much bloodshed happened over this past decade when it could have been avoided. While we can't go back in time, our troops deserve better for the sacrifices they have made every step of the way. Instead of keeping them in the deserts, it's time we gave them new legs, better mental health treatment, and integrating them back into civilian life. That's our God-given responsibility as a nation.


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2.- Many of the main issues always being debate inside the Republican Party tend to be social issues and social values, an area in which there appears to be significant disagreement. Where do you stand on abortion?

Governors Romney and Christie both say that they've evolved on their opinion of abortion. That's all well and good. Here's where we differ, though: I have always been passionately devoted to the cause of life. In fact, that was the reason why I became a Republican twenty years ago. I grew up in a family of lifelong Democrats, so you can imagine how that might have gone. *laughs* My father grew ill and retired from office after serving in Congress as a Democrat for many years. As he was approaching his deathbed, I came up to him and told him, "I'm going to change my party affiliation." I was strongly concerned by the way that the Democratic Party was heading by that point. I rose my right hand to my Lord and Savior to make my pledge, and my father told me, "I understand that." A month later, he would pass away.

Since then, my convictions have only strengthened. I've made it one of my missions in Congress to protect the unborn however I can. I've introduced legislation to defund Planned Parenthood, limit abortion after 20 weeks, and establish stronger protections for abortion survivors and harsher penalties for those doctors. When you're in a position of power, it's your duty from God to cherish life. If we can't even hold to that standard as a nation, then I fear for the future. We as Republicans should make it clear that this is a top priority for us, and it certainly would be in a Jones administration. I've backed up my words with action and a lifetime of conviction.


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8.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, there are reports of significant friction between yourself and other members of congress with the current GOP Leadership in the House, particularly with Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor. Are you dissatisfied with the current leadership?

Dissatisfied would be putting it mildly. *laughs*

Here is what's going on with the House leadership: They are systematically silencing and punishing conservative voices when we dare to speak out about our firmly held beliefs. In fact, Speaker Boehner even recently kicked me off from my spot in the Armed Services Committee because I voted differently than he would have liked me to on one or two bills. I thought the Republican Party was supposed to be a big tent of ideas. This isn't only happening to me, by the way. It's happening to plenty of my colleagues in the House, like Congressman Amash. When we call the rising debt an immoral beast and refuse to go along with the latest crony spending deal, we're only met with hostility from the leadership.

Here, I'll talk directly to the viewers at home: This goes to show that the Republican establishment doesn't give a damn about you. They'll take your votes for granted and vote to keep business as usual. We can't tolerate this anymore as a nation if we want to see things change for the better. There is so much anger out there, from Occupy on the left to the tea Party on the right, and these folks really agree on more than you may think. They want to see a better future for themselves and their children, and they know the root of the problem lies in Washington D.C. The leadership we have right now is like Medusa, and we must cut its head off to see it fall. We can't tolerate the Washington establishment anymore. That's why I'm running to make a difference.


Response to Congressman Paul:

Congressman Paul, you know we've been good friends for many years, and it's been an absolute pleasure to work alongside you. With that said, we have issues we can respectfully disagree on. I voted for those two lesser stimulus bills because the economy was in desperate need of life at that point, and they would have injected enough demand to start the recovery. We should never forget just how close we were to the entire financial system collapsing and leaving millions of innocent Americans with nothing in the process. I should note that I didn't vote for the $797 million stimulus package pushed by President Obama. You haven't stayed totally true to libertarian principles either, I might add. You are a big proponent of adding earmarks in bills, but I'm opposed to all pork barrel spending.

Closing statement:

Americans are angry. Americans want change. They want leaders they can actually trust, not just puppets for donors. For far too long, we've been used to the status quo, but 2012 is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to turn things around. I'm running for President because I have a record that defies the establishment time and time again. I refuse to play along with the House leadership's games, and while they may try to punish me, I never back down. I vote my conscience 100% of the time and I serve this duty knowing that I am accountable to the Lord at the end of the day. Integrity is what we need more of in Washington, and I would provide that. I'm not backed by big money; I'm running with the support of thousands of small donors. These are people who work regular jobs and wish to support their families. I'm accountable to these people, and I thank everyone out there for their support so far. This campaign is not stopping. It's only just beginning. Thank you, and God bless this country.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 01:12:42 AM
Excerpt from CNN interview with Congressman Jones

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Interviewer: What do you make of the rising Occupy Wall Street movement?

Jones: Well, this is fundamentally a very good thing. You may disagree with their ideas or their methods, and I certainly condemn the violence that has happened on some occasions. However, these are ordinary people standing up and demanding more from their government. They see that politicians work for big banks, prop up endless wars, and leave the middle class in debt while they continue to profit. It's a corrupt system to the core, and we need to clean out the people responsible for things like the War in Iraq and our last recession. You know, the Occupy people are really not much different from those who attend Tea Party rallies. Both want more accountability from their leaders.

Interviewer: You definitely sound more sympathetic to the protestors than many of your Republican rivals.

Jones: You could say that. But, like I said, the people who really deserve anger are our leaders who have failed us time and time again. It's no wonder that you're seeing protests everywhere now! Although I'm a Republican, we can't put everyone in neat little boxes. I would like to see the restoration of Glass-Steagal, for example, since banks were left off the hook after massive financial deregulation. We also need to end the policy of "too big to fail." Here's what I'll say to the viewers at home: If you want someone who can bridge the gap between Occupy and the Tea Party, I'm your guy. We need a political revolution in this country to right the ship, and that's what this campaign is about.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 01:44:51 AM
Walter Jones Schedule: October 1-31

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October 1-5: Town halls and meet and greets in Iowa; rally in Davenport; building contacts with Evangelical leaders; targeting pro-life voters; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters; campaign outreach in urban areas, particularly college students; voter registration drive.

October 6-12: Town halls and meet and greets in Nevada; rally in Carson City; outreach to Mormon leaders and voters in the east; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters; building inroads to libertarian organizations; outreach to veterans groups statewide; beefing up state campaign HQ in Las Vegas; voter registration drive.

October 13-21: Town halls and meet and greets in South Carolina; rallies in Mount Pleasant, Rock Hill, and Columbia; strengthening relationships with veterans groups; targeting pro-life voters; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters; multiple interviews with local TV and radio stations; intense campaign to attract Evangelical voters; building campaign infrastructure in the west; networking with local GOP branches; voter registration drive.

October 22: Congressional duties in Washington D.C.

October 23-24: Town halls and meet and greets in New Hampshire; interviews with local radio stations.

October 25-29: Town halls and meet and greets in South Carolina; rally in Hilton Head Island; fundraiser in Columbia; continued effort to rally Evangelical voters; persuading soft Paul and Carolla supporters; voter registration drive.

October 30-31: Town halls and meet and greets in Nevada; interviews with local radio stations; outreach to local GOP branches; persuading soft Carolla supporters.



Walter Jones Campaign Strategy
-Present candidate as *the* populist choice in the GOP field: uncorrupted, fighting the GOP establishment
-Make strong efforts to attract supporters of Trump and Palin as their candidacies fade
-Differentiate candidate from the 'libertarians' (Paul and Carolla) by highlighting unorthodox positions and pro-military stance
-Strong focus on small campaign contributions, attracting grassroots enthusiasm
-Harness the power of Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party to rally disaffected voters to the Jones campaign
-Trumpet strong pro-life stance through the primary states, particularly in Iowa and South Carolina
-Meet voters one-on-one on the campaign trail and make lasting impressions


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 02:18:07 AM
Walter Jones Ad: Convinction

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I'm Congressman Walter Jones.

You won't see me palling around with career politicians, or make promises to lobbyists for campaign cash. That's because I work for the average man and woman against the Washington establishment every day.

I vote on conviction. The only two groups who I'm accountable to are the American people and the Lord. In Washington, though, I'm considered dangerous. John Boehner and his cronies have kicked me off committees to try and silence my voice and many other conservatives.

I say let's take the fight to them and show that our voices will never be silenced. I approve this message because it's our time for a political revolution.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 02:51:09 AM
Walter Jones Endorsements


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Congressman Jimmy Duncan

"This man, Walter Jones, is the most honorable man I have had the distinction of serving with in Congress, ladies and gentlemen. You can take that to the bank. He is a true man of faith and you just can't replicate that. To have him as President would mean that we have real moral leadership in the White House again. He would be concerned with America first and foremost. I urge you all to take a look at his campaign. The man's record speaks for himself."

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Former Congressman Virgil Goode

"Jones loves this country to the core. I've been with him in Congress and you can just tell who's sucked up in the system and who isn't. He never cared about being part of the Washington crowd because he knows it's the cesspool that's hurting this fine country. He's right on borders, he's right on trade, and he's right on the wars. We need a man like Walter Jones to bring America back to greatness again."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 09, 2018, 04:08:08 AM
Ernie Fletcher for President
Campaign Highlights


Fletcher holds first Rally in Mt. Sterling, KY
FOX News

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It's the beginning of a new movement here, and it's happening right here in my birth town. There's a very key difference between my opponents and I, let me tell you it:

The heart of American Coal is produced here in Eastern Kentucky. Let me be the first to say I will never turn my back on my birth town.
The Obama Administration has led to the diminishment of our coal towns and coal cities. Let me also be the first to say we will bring our coal industry back in Eastern Kentucky.

(applause)

We can't throw our coal miners under the bus. Let's bring these good jobs back.

(applause)



Fletcher holds Fundraiser in Lexington, KY
Fox News



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Fletcher holds Town Hall in Sioux City, IA
Fox News

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AUDIENCE MEMBER: In the most recent debate, you said you were consistently pro- life and said others on stage weren't consistent. Governor, can you give more context on that?

FLETCHER: Consistency is always important for any person on anything because inconsistency means you don't know if you can trust that person. A good example is someone like Mitt Romney. He defended abortion less than a decade again. He said one thing in Massachusetts and another thing in New Hampshire. I'm saying the same thing in every part of the country and that will include D.C if I'm elected.


Fletcher endorsed by Governor Candidate Mike Pence at Indianapolis Rally
Fox News

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After working with Fletcher in Congress, I know for a fact that he's the one who can win the future! Governor Fletcher has an amazing track record of bringing change and speaking the truth. He's one of the only candidates in the primary who can beat Obama in 2012, I have complete confidence in his ability to do that. That doctor has my support, and one thing I can be certain of is that doctor's our next President.


Fletcher holds first Iowa rally in Cedar Rapids
CNN

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I can never thank you enough for the opportunities, Cedar Rapids. Aswell as the opportunities I was given by Kentucky; The opportunity to balance a budget, lower taxes, offer tuition tax credits, increase education spending. Iowa is now part of the decision for who governs the United States again, I say let's choose someone who has experience in governing and governing good. Who's with me on that?

(applause)

And now's it's about time Washington ends their game of dirty politics. I will never support that. Iowa, along tens of millions of American citizens, will choose on November 8th and deliver their jurisdiction to Washington. They are GUILTY!



Fletcher holds Fundraiser in Waterloo, IA
Fox News



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Fletcher endorsed by FMR Governor Sonny Perdue at Atlanta rally
CNN

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Gee, I've been waiting for the day I can vote for a Republican Southern Governor for President. That day is finally here, and I can finally vote my good friend Governor Ernie Fletcher for President. Not only were we both southern governors, we both made history being the first Republicans to govern our separate states for a long time. And Ernie did a good job. He's got my endorsement for President. He's the one that can win the future.



Fletcher and Perdue hold Fundraiser in Columbia, SC
Fox News



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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 09, 2018, 07:12:09 AM
Feingold 2012

October 1-7

Feingold made his first stops in Nevada and Florida, this week, organising his ground effort and meeting with progressive leaders to gain their support. He conducted several major rallies all over the states, in particular delivering a powerful speech on defending Social Security from Republican cuts. He also vowed to start using antitrust laws much more, promising that those at the top would not get away with theft again.

October 8-14

Feingold spent this week in the south, visiting impoverished neighbourhoods and meeting again with local leaders for their support. He met with several local activists as well, attempting to rally their support. In addition to impoverished areas, he also made visits to university campuses all over the south, meeting with several students to recruit them as local volunteers.

October 15-21

Feingold spent this week strategizing, as well as meeting with Senators Sanders and Brown for reasons unknown

October 22-24

Rest days

October 26-31

These days were spent in the industrial states, as Feingold attempted to rally support from unions and industrial workers through his opposition to TPP and additional free trade agreements.

(OOC: my debate answers will be up soon. Very personal tragedy occurred here)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 09, 2018, 10:23:56 AM
Carolla Campaign update 2

Carolla campaigned in Nevada and in his home of California on reforming Medicare and Social Security

He called out responses to Democrats by saying that he promised not to cut anything and anyone from Medicare and Social Security.

Carolla is expected to be on the Tonight show with David Letterman later this week.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 09, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
Romney 2012 Ad #3
Trust.
Air in all early contested states

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Three short years ago, America trusted a man with little experience who made big promises.
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Promises to fix the economy and lower unemployment.
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Promises to fix healthcare
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And promises to fix America's image abroad.
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We all know how well those promises turned out.
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So why, America, should we make the same mistake again?
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Chris Christie's two short years as Governor of New Jersey have been all talk and no action
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And now he wants to be our President?
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Doesn't that remind you of someone?
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Let's not make the same mistake we did last time, America. In 2012, we need someone we can trust to restore America's potential, not just an ambitious politician with big promises.
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Mitt Romney has spent over two decades turning around businesses, and states. Mitt gets it.
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We can't risk our country's future again. Elect someone you can trust to actually do what they say.
 Elect Mitt Romney. (I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message)



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 09, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
Governor Jindal's interview with Jake Tapper

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Tapper: Next we have Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a contender for the Republican nomination. Hello Governor, and welcome to the show.
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Jindal: Thank you Jake, and I'm glad to be here.
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Tapper: First, Governor, I know you've been running a very change-centered campaign, but just for a minute, let's focus on some of your other policy positions. Governor, in a rally last night in Tallahassee, Florida, you spoke of your policy on immigration reform and securing our border. For those who weren't there, could you explain what you meant by your policy of "four-step immigration reform", as you put it?
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Jindal: Well Jake, America has always been a land of opportunity and freedom. We've always been a melting pot of cultures and societies. And for the legal immigrants becoming citizens from Mexico, I believe that they are entitled to the same unalienable rights as the rest of us. However, if immigrants want to pursue the American dream, they need to come here legally. And here lies the center of the issue: what if there are immigrants that come here but don't come legally? Here's my plan. First, we should secure the border from immigrants that are coming here for nefarious reasons. I would accomplish this by increasing patrols by double across the border, and repairing and reinforcing the parts of the border that are damaged and weakened. Second, we need to make no path to citizenship for those who have entered America illegally. If they want citizenship, they need to come here legally. Third, we need to establish a universal, working E-verify system so that employers can make sure that their workers are here legally. Otherwise, it will only make the path for legal immigrants to get jobs harder than it should be because illegal immigrants would be holding the same jobs. Fourth and finally, we need to enact a law that prohibits those who have entered this nation illegally from ever being legally permitted to re-enter our nation.

All of this will make illegal immigration harder, but make life easier for legal immigrants, and for them to achieve the American dream.
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Tapper: Thank you Governor, that looks like all the time we have.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 09, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
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Jacksonville, Florida
October 21st, 2011

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"...Did y'all hear that Muammar Gaddafi is finally dead? (cheers) It's about time!

I will say one thing, however. It's looking like the Obama administration is planning on getting out of Libya as quickly as possible. This is a classic example of the Obama foreign policy doctrine. Make a politically beneficial move today, and don't plan for tomorrow. So let me ask you, what is going to happen in Libya and Iraq when the US suddenly leaves these countries, which are by no means ready to defend themselves?

We're going to see this cycle continue. It's tragic, and it's avoidable, but it's going to happen. The only thing that will result out of President Obama's current foreign policy in the Middle East is decades of more instability and terrorism -- the very kind of terrorism that could reach American soil. I agree with the President that we do need to get out of Iraq, and get out of Libya, but you have to have a plan. The President's plan starts and ends with "get re-elected in 2012," and let me tell you Mr. President, that plan isn't going to work to fix the Middle East, and it sure isn't going to work here in America!" (cheers)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 09, 2018, 02:44:28 PM
Sandoval and Heller Endorse Romney
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Las Vegas, Nevada
October 26th, 2011

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SANDOVAL: "Wow! What a crowd! Hello Nevada!"
HELLER: "I'll say... It's great to see y'all here!"
SANDOVAL: "I'm sure you can tell by all the signs that you know exactly who we're here for. It's the same man as all you!"
HELLER: "Today, Governor Sandoval and I are proud to jointly announce our support for the only person we believe to have the ideas and experience to lead America in these turbulent times."
SANDOVAL: "We're proud to announce a businessman and job creator who can revitalize the great American economy that has laid dormant for too long."
HELLER: "We're proud to announce a Governor and conservative who knows what it takes to reform our healthcare system and immigration crisis."
SANDOVAL: "We're proud to introduce your next President of the United States, Mitt Romney!"(Mitt enters stage)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 09, 2018, 02:56:48 PM
Romney Speech on Healthcare
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Charleston, South Carolina
October 15th, 2011

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"...Oh sure I'm getting attacks for the healthcare I passed in Massachusetts! I passed a healthcare plan that worked for the state of Massachusetts, got 98% of all adults insured, and lowered premiums. I've passed more working healthcare plans than anyone running for President in 2012, so it makes sense why I'm being attacked for it! (laughs)

My plan for healthcare is to take the federal government out of it so that premiums go down and choice goes up, and so that states get more control. A blanket policy doesn't work here in the United States. Our country is too large, too diverse, too different for that to make sense with healthcare. Y'all down here know that folks in Massachusetts should NOT be dictating what goes on in South Carolina. Lawmakers in Washington shouldn't be either when it comes to healthcare. I'm going to get the government out of your way by ending tax discrimination in health insurance, meaning that if you self-insure you won't be punished! That's just common sense. I'm also going to give Medicaid back to the states, so that the good people down here in South Carolina get to implement a plan that works for you!

Healthcare shouldn't be a nightmare, Obama just made it that way. If you elect me as your next President, we're going to simplify the health code and make it work for all Americans!"


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 09, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
Carolla interview with David Letterman
October 13th 2011
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Joining me now is a good friend of mine and a candidate for the Republican Party Presidental nomination please it up for Adam Carolla
*Crowd cheers*

Letterman:Now I have seen people saying that you are just running for attention and more fame and that you don’t actually care about the position of power.

Carolla:Oh that’s nonsense. If I was running for attention I would of just dropped out after a month!  I know what I am doing and I believe I can bring a revolution of liberty to this country.

Letterman:Very well. How do you feel with your rise in your polls and your appeal to the rising momvemt of the Tea Party?

Carolla:Well you know I think my policies and my views could appeal to everyone.

Im about to hit back to Nevada and California however I have spent some time down in Iowa and South Carolina and I have said I feel for their cause.  I know what it’s like to be in their shoes you see.

It’s very hard scary and sad but I had hope and promise and you know I feel proud to know that after a childhood where we were lucky to get 50 dollars that I am here and have glee in what I have accomplished.

As for my rise. Well I gotta be honest you know I wanted to rise however I didn’t know it was going to be this far you know? I’m am very excited and anticipate what happens next.

Letterman:One more question.  How do feel about Occupy Wall Street? since in the Democratic debates they asked that but not you guys.

Carolla:Well I understand the cause and yes as President I will fight against Wall Street corruption as president however the way they protest I am against. I would just peaceful stand there you know rather than being all violent and starting a riot.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 09, 2018, 05:47:04 PM
Interview with Ernie Fletcher
ABC News


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George Stephanopoulos: Governor, in the recent debates you've implied that you're different from other Republican candidates, can you elaborate on that?

Ernie Fletcher: Well, when you looked at that stage at the debate, there was only a couple that had stayed consistent on issues. In my many years of public service, I haven't flipped on one issue, and when it was time to answer the questions at the debate, several of the candidates had already flipped on some issues. They're the people that will say one thing in Boston and another thing in Birmingham. Governor Mitt Romney, for example, flipped on abortion. He said he was pro choice less than a decade ago. People like those.. you really can't tell if they'll stick to their word in DC.

I will never lead this campaign off the issues, the ethics, the experience because we don't need to continue playing gotcha politics in Washington D.C. I've said it once and I'll say it again, it's about time we end it. We need a leader with a backbone for once. A leader on the issues. The difference is my track record shows exceptionalism in fiscal and social conservativism. In Kentucky, we reversed a billion dollar deficit while increasing infrastructure and education spending, and we did it while lowering state taxes.

To the voters watching: I'm not going to play the typical dirty politics game. We're going to speak the issues, the ethics, the vision, and we ain't gonna stop doing that. We're gonna stay consistent on that no matter how many of our opponents don't stay consistent. We're gonna win a future for the American people.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 09, 2018, 05:54:44 PM
Upton 2012
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Schedule
October 1st to 21st New Hampshire
October 22nd to 25th Maine
October 26th to 30th Florida
October 31st Michigan
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New Hampshire Sub Schedule


Week of the 1st
Rallys in Manchester and Concord
Photo op at a Diner in Keene
Church Service at the North Church of Portsmouth


Week of the 3rd

Rallys in Manchester,Concord, and Portsmouth
Speeches in Nashua and Derry
Fundraiser in Keene


Week of the 10th
Rallys in Nashua Derry and Keene
Speeches in Portsmouth and Hanover
Fundraisers in Manchester and Concord


Week of the 17th
Speech in Nashua Manchester and Concord
Fundraisers in Manchester and Keene
Endorsed by Senator Susan Collins of Maine


Week of the 24th
Rally in Augusta Bangor and Portland join apperances with Senator Collins
Rally in Tallahasse Orlando and Miami
Endorsed by Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Townhall in Detroit and Rally in East Lansing meeting with College groups of all affiliation


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 09, 2018, 06:09:08 PM
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Christie: Romney Ad is 'Complete Fiction'.

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Question from reporter: Governor Christie, have you seen Governor Romney's latest advert comparing you to President Obama, where he claims that you've been all talk?

Oh yeah, it's an interesting little ad. I've faced $3 million dollars in attack ads from the Teachers Unions. As some of you have noticed I'm a big guy, and I can handle these ads.

It's more fiction from Governor Romney. It's complete fiction. If Mitt actually knew anything about New Jersey he'd know that we've done a hell of a lot.

We've passed a balanced budget, twice, without raising taxation. When the Democrats in the Assembly tried to put tax rise's into the Budget you know what I did- I told them, no chance in hell.

Heck if if there hasn't been any action in New Jersey why do you reckon the Teachers Unions are so pissed off at me? You know why they're pissed off; because I took on the unions, and I made them pay their fair share in pension payments. I lead the charge in fixing a pension system that was $121 Billion underfunded. Heck this was a bi-partisan fix we passed in Trenton.

I'd love Mitt to come down to New Jersey, and meet the 60,000 people we've helped get back to work. Come, and meet those folks, and tell them I don't deliver. I've only been a Governor for two years, and I've already done more to take on the status quo, to take on the vested interests, and to fix the real, problems in New Jersey, than Mitt ever did when he was Governor of Massachusetts.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 09, 2018, 06:28:14 PM
Campaign Ad

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Heartbeat

(Airs in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida.)

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Footage of Governor Christie talking at a Town Hall

I became pro-life in 1996 when I found out Mary Pat was Pregnant, we went into the hospital, and I heard something beautiful. I heard the 13 week old heartbeat of our daughter. I froze. All I could hear was that beat of life. I remember on the car-ride home thinking, how could I be stay pro-choice?

I didn't become pro-life by having a conversation with an Academic. I didn't become pro-life when I wanted to run for some higher office. No, I became pro-life when I heard that heartbeat. When I heard that life?

When I ran to be Governor of New Jersey I was honest with voters- I'm proud about being pro-life. People had a lot more respect for you if you tell them the truth. It's why people hate politicians. We need leaders who are honest. Leaders who are in touch with their emotions, and Leaders who are not afraid of talking about their morals.

My life changed in 1996 when I heard that heartbeat. If I'm elected President, I'll remember that heart-beat every day in office.

Cuts to image of Governor Christie with his family.

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I'm Chris Christie, and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 09, 2018, 06:53:19 PM
Phil Bredesen 'False Change' Ad set to run in Iowa, New Hampshire, West Virginia,Zoom Kentucky, Missouri, Georgia, Tennessee, south Carolina and Florida

Zoom into a image of unemployment increasing

Under President Obama, the unemployment has increased by a significant margin

Zoom into an image of the National Debt barely going down

As a candidate in 2008, President Obama said he was going to end the National Debt, but the Debt has barely left where it was then.

Zoom into a now Republican controlled Congress

It was because of Obama's failed Presidency that the Republicans took control, halting any legislative capabilities that Congress has to the people.

Under Obama, America hasn't recovered from the 2007 crisis.

Zoom into a headline saying 'Bredesen reasonable with budget'

In Tennessee, however, Governor Bredesen had managed to keep control of the state without a state income and a sales tax.

Show an image of Tennessee prospering under Bredesen

During his Governorship, Bredesen helped the state of Tennessee to thrive without doing the things President Obama has either done or offered to do.

So, America, do you want False Change...

Show a clip of Obama talking about change in 2008 and show the image of Current America

Or real Change?

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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 09, 2018, 07:06:15 PM
Campaign Advert: 'Get on with the Job.''

Run in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida

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(Reporters Voice) A shock victory tonight as Chris Christie, a former U.S Attorney is set to win the the New Jersey Governors race. This is a crashing embarrassment for President Obama, and the Democratic Party.

(Governor Christie speaks one one one with the Camera)
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 When I became Governor of New Jersey a lot of people had written me off. They said that I'd be a powerless Governor who'd never get anything done. They said that the old school politicians would walk all over me, but the pundits have never been more wrong.

As Governor of New Jersey I showed that it's possible to be a principled Conservative, and still get real achievements done.

I walked away from the State Assembly when they tried to make me give the citizens of New Jersey a tax hike. The Assembly later caved in, and approved a balanced budget, without a single tax rise.

I worked with across the aisle to fix our broken, and underfunded pension system. For the first time in generations, we took on, and defeated the public sector unions, who refused to pay their fair share.

I worked with Democratic Mayors to fix our broken education system, to introduce merit pay for teachers and to give our kids, the proper education they deserve.

I capped increases in property taxes to help to pull down out of control spending, and I worked to help create 60,000 private sector jobs.

When I wake up every morning as Governor I don't think about what policy will appeal to what voter, or what will make me more popular. I just get up, and get on with the job. When I see something that's broken that's fix it. We need someone with this sort of attitude in Washington D.C, who can crack the heads together, and work out the real solutions, to problems like our out of control spending, our national debt, or are flat-lining Economy.

They said I couldn't sort out the mess in New Jersey. They were wrong. So don't listen to them when they say that I can't do the same for America.

I'm Chris Christie, and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 09, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
Bredesen's reply to Senator Hillary Clinton the debate

Excuse me, Senator, if I can speak? I have to say that I'm not a Senator and I agree, I don't have the experience of Washington behind me. That's a fact. But, I've been a governor since 2002 in Tennessee and there I saw the issues of Tennessee first hand. I was mayor of Nashville and there I helped the city become greater than you think.I was the head of a small businesses that now has over 6000 employees and growing and I started it on my Kitchen table. Senator Clinton, I haven't been in Government for a year so I might be a tad rusty but in 2010 I traveled TN and Appalachia and saw the policies that the government in Washington was doing to them and I am sure you don't know how real Americans in the South are doing after the 90s. Senator, you claim to be fighting for the American citizen but have you ever taken time off to look at the states and travel them to talk to the people there? I have and I met a 30 year old man who worked in the coal mine in West Virginia. I won't name him but he said he was afraid that since I was a Democrat I would want to get rid of his job. I asked him how his family was doing, his answer of them just getting along and that the job in the coal mine is the only way he can pay the bills broke my heart. I promised to him that I would try my hardest to make sure he keeps his job and won't use it. That is Appalachia, Senator Clinton. That is the America you claim to know but you really don't. And, forgive me for bringing up harsh memories, but I must remind you that the American people rejected you in 2008. What makes you think they would want you 4 years later?

Thank you for letting me respond.


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Clinton: Governor, this is a charge I've faced my entire career: that I'm a big city liberal who claims to be a champion of rural, working class voters. And every time I respond the same way. Most of my life, I lived in Arkansas, a rural, Southern state. Actually, Governor, Arkansas is more rural than Tennessee is. I've traveled to every corner of the Natural State, during my 12 years as First Lady of Arkansas and since, and I've seen first hand the struggles of rural communities. That's why I pressured the Federal Government and secured federal funds to expand access to medical facilities in the most rural communities of the state. Even more than that, Governor, there's more to New York than the City. 60% of the state's population live outside of New York City. That's nearly 10 million people. I've represented every citizen of the State of New York - from cities like New York and Buffalo and rural communities in the Adirondacks - equally over the last twelve years. As you and the American people at home just heard, I have a comprehensive plan to respond to the transition to a greener economy without leaving coal workers in the cold.

You brought up 2008. Well, let's talk about it then, Governor. The American people did not "reject" me, as you claim they did. Thousands of voters in Florida and Michigan were told their votes didn't count. Michigan received no representation at the DNC in Colorado, Florida received half of the votes it should have. If you include the votes from the hardworking men and women in Michigan who came out to vote despite them being told by the DNC their votes didn't matter, I won the popular vote nationwide. If Michigan and Florida had been treated fairly, maybe 2008 would have happened differently. But I don't have a time-machine, so there's no speculating about what could have been. There was no overwhelming rejection by the American people of my campaign in 2008 that you claim there was; there was a rejection of my campaign by the Democratic Party establishment, through superdelegates and the unfair treatment of Florida and Michigan, two states critical to any Democratic General Election victory.

Phil Bredesen responds to Hillary Clinton

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Senator Clinton, you have just stated that I called you a Liberal. That, Senator, is a lie. I respect you for your service to Arkansas and I respect Bill's service to this country. But I want to ask you, Hillary, what is this plan you keep talking about? How much of the Economy is going to be Green and how much is going to be Fossil Fuels? You have never specified. I have, the folks back home can garruntee this. Senator, you have been Senator for New York for 10 years as of this year. The same year Bill left office, you became Senator. For almost 10 straight years you were first lady of Arkansas. Then you were first lady of the United States. Senator Clinton, it seems that when you first tasted politics, you didn't want to let go. Why, Senator? Why we're you to be so eager to run for a Senate seat in 2000? You had the name recognition so it was obvious you were going to win. You indeed won it by a 12.3% margin. Senator, that race was anything but close and everyone knows it. Senator, it has been 10 years since you were really in a Southern state. 10 years before you were in a state that has been completely hurt by Barrack Obama's Failed policies. I'm sorry, Senator, but you don't speak for us.

You can say that I'm doing the same thing but the difference is that I waited. I traveled the nation. I visited people who were hurting because of Obama. You didn't in 2000. You just don't want to let go of your Power. Senator, you just want Political control. I rest my case.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 09, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Attack ad on Hillary Clinton set to run in all early Primary called 'Political Hillary Dynasty'

Senator Hillary Clinton

Show a slowed down clip of Hillary walking.

You were elected in 2000, the same year your husband left the office as President

Show Hillary's Victory in 2000.

Before that, you were First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas

Show Hillary sitting right next to Bill Clinton as First Lady

Senator, can we, the American people, ask why you instantly for a Senate position so quickly?

Show Hillary smiling about winning in 2000

But I think we all know the answer by now. You want to keep your Political Dynasty that you've built these past few decades from Crumbling

Show Hillary frowning

You didn't give America a reprieve from you.

Show a picture of Hillary opening her eyes wide.

Stop Hillary's Political Dynasty. Vote Bredesen for 2012.

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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this Message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 09, 2018, 07:49:47 PM
Romney 2012 Ad #6
"Healthcare Cure"
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I'm Mitt Romney, and I want to talk to you about healthcare.
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After Obamacare passed last year, many Americans are worried about what will happen to their coverage and their premiums.
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When I hear that Obamacare is increasing our doctor shortage and increasing premiums, I'm worried too.
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That's why I pledge to repeal and replace Obamacare as soon as I'm elected President to relieve the American people of their current healthcare burden.
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That's also why my healthcare plan stops punishing self-insurers, and gives Medicaid back to the states.
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And if you have a pre-existing condition? Don't worry, you can keep your insurance without having to worry about losing it.
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America's healthcare system should be helping you get better, not giving you a headache. I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 09, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
Ad #2 for Governor Jindal

"It's Time"

To be aired in South Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire

It's time for reform.
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It's time for better healthcare.
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It's time for secure borders.
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It's time for better infrastructure.
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It's time for a new type of politician.
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It's time for a new type of campaign.
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It's time to remove the Washington establishment.
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It's time for the American people.
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It's time for change.
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It's time for Jindal.

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I'm Bobby Jindal, and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 09, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
"The Difference"
A 2012 Presidential Ad




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"Some people ask me what makes me different from other Republican candidates.
Here's the difference."





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"Here in Kentucky, we reversed the billion dollar budget crisis while reducing state taxes. We still had enough to raise education and infrastructure spending. "




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"I will never ever move away from the issues, the ethics, and the vision. It's time for a leader who doesn't play a game of dirty politics. But to get that happening, I need your vote "


I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 09, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Miami, FL

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Hello Miami!

cheers

My approach is different from most of the other people running for President.

The United States of America was made great by people who get things done. Not lots of talk or entertaining speeches. To be sure, there are a lot of great talkers running for President already. But none of them, not one, can match our record of actually shrinking the size of government. If great speeches helped our country, we would be on easy street right now. The guy in the White House today is a great talker, and we have a bunch of great talkers running for President. We’ve had enough of talkers, it’s time for a doer. I’m not running for president to be somebody, I’m running for President to do something. It’s easy to talk about the mess that Obama has made of our country. Every American knows about it, and every Republican candidate talks about it. But that’s not even half of what we should expect of the next President. We owe voters more than just a tirade about the problem – we owe them honesty about our solution.

cheers

I will do the things that you cannot do in Washington, and say the things you cannot say.

cheers

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I made the choice to run for president back in June. I am running for real change in not only Washington, but in America.

cheers

It’s easy to be a popular politician, don’t rock the boat, and don’t make big changes. But I will not take the easy way out. If you want someone who will pretend that everything is fine and just make some small tweaks – then you want someone else. But if you want real change, then you have only one choice in the Republican field. This campaign.

cheers

Thank you Miami, thank you Florida, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 09, 2018, 10:02:46 PM
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Columbia, SC:

You've seen the bickering from Romney and Christie recently, folks. Who's better on abortion? Who's tougher on terrorism? Who has a better track record? Here's what I can tell ya: I don't side with either. As a matter of fact, they're really just two sides of the same coin. They're backed up by the same corrupt Washington establishment and big-money donors that have brought us more debt, more spending, stagnating wages, and endless wars in the Middle East. They won't do a thing to improve your lives because they're not interested in that.

People ask me why I'm running when I haven't been noticed. I can tell you that I sense the momentum at this stage. People are beginning to wake up to my campaign's message that it's time for a real change in Washington. A President Romney or a President Christie will continue to leave Americans behind while enriching their friends. A President Jones will put a stop to that on day one. This campaign is about America First.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 09, 2018, 11:21:40 PM


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General Questions:

1.- Generally speaking there has been an increase in the concern for environmental policies in the past few years, matched by the rising concerns of people in states like West Virginia that such policies harm their employment. Where do you stand on this?

Well one solution to this could be in fact retraining these workers to operate renewable energy plants across the nation, whether they're hydroelectric dams, wind farms or biofuel plantations. These workers can be retrained, and it would be done through extensive job retraining programs.

Where we have gone wrong is that we expect these people to just stop working and know instantly what to do. That is not the case. What we can do is gradually phase out fossil fuels, like coal, and retrain miners a few thousand at a time for jobs on the plants. It's not that hard. These people would get paid well and would combat climate change for the future.

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2.- Immigration is also an issue at the heart of current political debate, particularly prominent in the border states. What would you say is the right solution to the immigration issue?

Amnesty for all that are here, so beating around the bush. It needs to be done and done now. We also need a path to citizenship for immigrants. We don't need a tougher border security system-we have one of the toughestin the world. We need to ensure that Border Patrol is supplied with advanced equipment to aid in surveying immigrants. Finally, any immigrant who has committed a crime in our country should be deported immediately.

Despite what you hear from our friends on the right, getting rid of immigrants would not be good for the economy. It would drain billions from our GDP. I thought Republicans were supposed to be fiscally responsible. What happened?

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Candidate Specific Questions:



4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your embrace of Occupy Wll Street has gained you both criticism and praise, particularly after several young protesters decided to join your campaign. There is a rising controversy as the protests grow in scale, leading many to dismiss Occupy as nothing but a violent moment. What would you have to say about this?

Occupy is not a violent movement. They have concerns that have not been addressed. Concerns that myself and my colleagues on the left have tried to warn everyone about for years, and then get told to shut up. Many of the protests have been disrupted by overly enthusiastic police eager to break up protests for the first time. These people should get their concerns addressed without delay, and the only reason I'm being criticised for associating with them shamelessly is because I threaten to upset the apple cart and am reminding Democrats that the progressive vote cannot be taken for granted anymore.

Al Gore made this mistake in 2000. John Kerry made it in 2004. Obama ran as a progressive in 2008 then governed as a moderate. The progressive vote is not a card to be played. They are voters who want their concerns addressed, and I'm being criticised because I'm the only one up here doing that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 01:16:07 AM
Turn Three: On Target:
November 1st to November 30th, 2011

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In the News!

Is Iran building nuclear weapons?
UN report voices concern over Iranian nuclear program

Zuccotti Park protesters removed, hundreds arrested
NYPD successfully removes Occupy Wall Street after heated struggle, many injured

British Embassy in Iran assaulted!
Following British sanctions against Iran protestors storm embassy, dozens injured

Supreme Court: Obamacare ruling in 2012
Supreme Court to make its ruling on the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act next year

Beshear (D) holds Kentucky, Bryant (R) holds Mississippi:
Governor elections see the GOP hold Mississippi, Gov. Beshear narrowly wins re-election in Kentucky

1.- Turn: This turn lasts across the whole month of November. Same rules apply to the past one.

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Mitt Romney: 22%
Chris Christie: 17%
Bobby Jindal: 15%
Ron Paul: 11%
Sarah Palin: 7%
Walter Jones: 7%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Ernie Fletcher: 5%
Donald Trump: 5%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 4%

Republicans: Romney hit hard by attacks, momentum for Jindal and Jones?

Having cemented his status as a frontrunner with the Palin campaign in continued free fall (to the point in which many doubt the former Alaska Governor will make it to Iowa), Mitt Romney found out the hard way what it means to be a frontrunner. Put into question over his abortion views at a debate in which he sustained continued attacks, Romney was also targeted continously by Jones, Carolla,  Fletcher and particularly by Chris Christie, whose combined fire rouse the suspicions of Tea Party and conservative voters over Romney's supposed reliability as a nominee. And while Romney himself is noted for giving efficient media appearances and for running a somewhat tight ship, the barrage pushed him back into vulnerable margins, creating an urgent risk in Iowa and seeing Bobby Jindal overtake him on South Carolina polling.

To many, this would have been the perfect opportunity for Chrstie to close the gap and take up the frontrunner mantle. Alas, despite a well-run campaign Christie also faced his own share of merciless attacks and sustained damage by the Romney campaign, leading some conservatives to start questioning whether Christie is truly their man. The losses of Romney, Palin and Christie were promtly seized by other candidates who avoid most attacks by being low on the radar, thus allowing them to surge: Bobby Jindal has been the most prominent of them, taking the lead in South Carolina and making himself attractive to conservatives as a very viable option. Remarkable gains have also been made by Congressman Jones, whose effective performance at the debate and populist touch saw him surge as an increasingly credible candidate, and by Governor Fletcher, who despite a late start has seemingly found a niche as the candidate of social conservatives.

Others have also found their own room to grow, such as Adam Carolla and Ron Paul, putting on strong performances on early states that makes it hard to count them out of the race. Even Congressman Upton, harshly condemned over his latest debate performances, has found some receptive (if small) ground among independents in New Hampshire. The collective effect of his has been read by pundits as signifying that the GOP electorate is simply not convinced yet, and thus prone to sudden changes of support that may only be getting more extreme as the primaries approach. And whilst many insist Mitt Romney is the "inevitable nominee", others are not so sure.

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Barack Obama: 40%
Hillary Clinton: 36%
Russ Feingold: 11%
Phil Bredesen: 10%
Undecided: 3%

Democrats: White House down

Having already lost significant ground over the past weeks, the situation at the White House was becoming worse everyday. A general lack of campaigning over October was seen as a bad idea at a time in which Clinton, Feingold and Bredesen were gaining exposure in the media, particularly as the credibility of the primary challengers against the President grew in perception. Without a response against the constant attacks of his challengers, the President's polling numbers took a large hit as Barack Obama receded back to 40%, making him not only vulnerable, but behind Clinton for the first time in the crucial primary battlegrounds of New Hampshire and Florida.

On the opposing side, Governor Bredesen and Senator Feingold made gains of their own by appealing to their respective bases: Feingold continues to gain credibility among progressives due to his overtures to Occupy Wall Street and other statements, whereas Bredesen appears to have hit a vital point regarding fossil fuels in Appalachia (to the point in which a private poll from the White House is said to have the Governor in a strong second place in West Virginia). Clinton, on the other hand, continues to be seen as solid even as she faces strong attacks from Bredesen on issues such as her political ambition. Always the more powerful of the challengers, she hits 36% and is only 4 points behind the President, leading potential Superdelegates to start considering their loyalities.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 01:25:15 AM
GOP Average Polling:

IOWA:

Mitt Romney: 20%
Ron Paul: 16%
Chris Christie: 15%
Bobby Jindal: 15%
Sarah Palin: 7%  
Donald Trump: 7%
Ernie Fletcher: 6%
Walter Jones: 5%
Adam Carolla: 5%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 4%


NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Mitt Romney: 27%
Chris Christie: 22%
Ron Paul: 15%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Donald Trump: 7%
Bobby Jindal: 7%
Fred Upton: 4%
Walter Jones: 4%
Sarah Palin: 1%
Ernie Fletcher: 1%
Undecided: 5%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Bobby Jindal: 25%
Mitt Romney: 23%
Walter Jones: 14%
Ernie Fletcher: 8%
Chris Christie: 8%
Sarah Palin: 6%
Adam Carolla: 4%
Ron Paul: 4%
Donald Trump: 3%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 5%

FLORIDA:

Mitt Romney: 24%
Bobby Jindal: 19%
Chris Christie: 15%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Ron Paul: 6%
Walter Jones: 6%
Sarah Palin: 6%
Ernie Fletcher: 4%
Donald Trump: 4%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 8%

NEVADA:

Mitt Romney: 33%
Ron Paul: 12%
Adam Carolla: 10%
Chris Christie: 9%
Bobby Jindal: 9%
Donald Trump: 7%
Walter Jones: 7%
Sarah Palin: 4%
Ernie Fletcher: 2%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 01:27:38 AM
DEM Average Polling:

IOWA:

Barack Obama: 39%
Hillary Clinton: 30%
Russ Feingold: 20%
Phil Bredesen: 3%
Undecided: 8%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Hillary Clinton: 44%
Barack Obama: 39%
Russ Feingold: 11%
Phil Bredesen: 2%
Undecided: 4%

NEVADA:

Barack Obama: 44%
Hillary Clinton: 38%
Phil Bredesen: 8%
Russ Feingold: 5%
Undecided: 5%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Barack Obama: 53%
Hillary Clinton: 22%
Phil Bredesen: 19%
Russ Feingold: 3%
Undecided: 3%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 42%
Barack Obama: 40%
Phil Bredesen: 8%
Russ Feingold: 6%
Undecided: 4%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 01:33:01 AM
Endorsements from Turn Two:

Christie: Susana Martinez, Haley Barbour.
Romney: Brian Sandoval, Dean Heller.
Carolla: Adam Sandler, Dana Rohrabacher.
Paul: Thomas Massie, Gary Johnson.
Jones: Chuck Hagel, Brent Scowcroft.
Jindal: Jim DeMint, Marco Rubio.
Upton: Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski.

Feingold: Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown.
Clinton: Andrew Cuomo, Tom Menino.
Bredesen: Jason Altmire, Nick Lampson.

Clark: Blanche Lincoln, Stanley McChrystal.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 01:44:02 AM
Debate Winners:

GOP:

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If the first GOP debate was considered to be a confrontational one, the second doubled down on such a view. The human target during the entire debate was frontrunner Mitt Romney, constantly challenged over his views on issues such as abortion and attacked by several of his rivals. Romney, to his credit, defended himself skillfully, but was percieved to have been drowned out on account of the multiple punches and while successully damaging Christie enough to deny him a debate victory, was percieved to have been one of the losers - the major one being Congressman Upton, whose remarks earned him constant jeers from the audience - at the debate.

With Carolla and Christie left somewhat behind - Carolla giving a solid but not memorable performance and Christie damaged by attacks -, the top spot at the debate was fought between Paul (considered the likely fourth place), Jindal (who did well, but was seen as just third best) and a surprising tie between Congressman Walter Jones and Governor Ernie Fletcher, both considered longshots at the nomination. Benefiting from blows against Romney without having to suffer attacks of their own, combined to well recieved answers against the establishment (in Jones's case) and defending conservative values (in Fletcher's case), both men were percieved to have won the debate, helping their respective polling surges.

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With President Obama not attending most networks predicted low viewership, but to their surprise the 2nd Democratic debates featured strong numbers of audiences and some significant commentary in social media. All in all, the debate was considered to be a curious three way tie as all three challengers played to their respective bases, Bredesen and Clinton starting strong but failing to achieve total victory on account of the jabs they traded. It was agreed by pundits what hurt Clinton the most was Bredesen's comments on her ambition - although she was percieved to have a very strong moment when explaining her loss in 2008 -, whereas Bredesen was hurt by what many saw as poor preparation, given his strange apology over Libya and gaffes such as refering to "Senator Ron Paul".


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 02:01:20 AM
3rd Democratic Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Democratic candidates are invited to attend. Due to the advantanges of incumbency President Obama will not take an automatic hit if he refuses to debate. You have a right to reply to other candidates, but don't make it a ten post argument. Finally, you can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- An overlooked but increasingly relevant problem in America is that of Education and now to address issues of quality and learning from students. What are your plans for Educational policy?

2.- Serious concerns regarding party unity always emerge when there is a challenge to a sitting President, particularly given the latests Presidents to be seriously challenged lost in 1992 and 1980. If you become the Democratic nominee, how will you unite the party?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To President Obama: Mr. President, there is growing concern of your ability to successfully defeat the current challengers for the White House, even as many in and outside Washington defend your chances. How can you reassure your voters you can defeat Senators Clinton and Feingold and Governor Bredesen?

2.- To Senator Clinton: Senator, a line of attack that has been emphasized by your rivals is that of political ambition, particularly relating to your decision to run for office in New York and not Arkansas. How do you respond to those who believe you are more interested in just winning?

3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, when you were Governor of Tennessee spending was cut by 9% in 2003 alone, a policy that wasn't exactly to the liking of many in the party. Given the current economic situation in the US, would you radically cut spending if you were President?

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your defeat last year in the midterms was seen as almost symbolic of the Republican victory at the election. What should voters draw from the rejection of the voters of your own state?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 10, 2018, 02:22:07 AM
3rd Republican Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Republican candidates are invited to attend, and you can of course reply to other candidates briefly. You can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Governor Romney: Governor, one line of attack uttered by several high-profile Democrats is related to your wealth, and specifically, that you could be seen as out of tough with ordinary Americans. How do you respond to them?

2.- To Governor Christie: Governor, a particularly harsh attack by a fellow candidate charged you with being, and I quote, "backed up by the same corrupt Washington establishment". Which brings me to my queston, should voters consider your an establishment or anti-establishment candidate?

3.- To Governor Jindal: Governor, you once almost faced a recall effort in 2008 over your refusal to veto a bill that would have doubled the pay of the state legislature, a position which you were forced to recant in the span of three days. How would you say this reflects on your leadership?

4.- To Congressman Paul: Congressman Paul, an issue of interest lately is that of infraestructure on this country and what is viewed as the poor shape of it in many areas of the country. Some candidates have called for significant investment on infraestructure already, but what is your solution to this problem?

5.- To Governor Palin: Governor, after the past month there are many who doubt whether you have what it takes to defeat the current frontrunner and capture the nomination. How do you plan to reassure voters that you can win this primary? (Same question)

6.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you have been noted as one of the strongest critics of the percieved frontrunners at this point, leading many to wonder if, should you become the nominee, you would be able to lead a united party. Why do you think you could unite Republicans?

7.- To Mr. Carolla: Mr. Carolla, one of the main points of what is considered to be Libertarianism is the view of a small government, often a dramatically small one. Just how small or how large do you think government should be?

8.- To Governor Fletcher: Governor, despite having served in Congress and as Governor some have noted you don't possess a record or experience on matters of foreign policy. Why should Americans trust you to be commander in chief, and what is your general philosophy on foreign poicy?

9.- To Mr. Trump: Mr. Trump, there is growing concern inside party circles that your bid for the presidency may not be as serious as once thought, and that you might drop out of the race sooner than expected. What do you say to this? (Same question)

10.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, given your stances on issues such as gun control, health care, abortion and same-sex marriage several have doubted why you should be running as a Republican. What would you say makes you a Republican?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 10, 2018, 04:33:10 AM
Phil Bredesen Debate Answers

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1.- An overlooked but increasingly relevant problem in America is that of Education and now to address issues of quality and learning from students. What are your plans for Educational policy?

Honestly, I think the kids should decide what they learn and how they learn it. Nowadays, there is a great many things one can do now than one could do when our current education system was first established. People continuesly say our education program was created during the industrial revolution and unfortunately, I agree. From Grades 6 and up, Algebra, Geometry, History, Geography, Science, and reading shouldn't be mandatory. It should be a choice. What should be Mandatory is what I consider the real essentials of Life: Personal Finance, How to raise a family, Basic politics (Mainly about the parties and where they stand), basic first aid, mental health. That is the most important thing to learn in school. Not -b+- the square root b squared - 4ac/2a. That is insane. It's absolutely insane. They make kids learn that and other very unnecessary things and people wonder why our work force is shrinking and more kids are depressed. The solution is to make that stuff a choice and teach kids what they will actually need in life.



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2.- Serious concerns regarding party unity always emerge when there is a challenge to a sitting President, particularly given the latest Presidents to be seriously challenged lost in 1992 and 1980. If you become the Democratic nominee, how will you unite the party?

I said this a while ago in my Announcement Speech but let me specify what I mean by it. I want to bring the Democratic party to a more Centrist platform. I want the party to go across Party Lines and vote on bills that can help America. Bills that can aid our country. Our party is controlled by Mainly progressives and look where that has gotten us. Our party has forgotten it's Centrist roots and that's a major why we are so unpopular as right now. Once our party is Centrist, it won't fix everything, but it'll give Republicans a harder time to Fight with us on bills.



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3.- To Governor Bredesen: Governor, when you were Governor of Tennessee spending was cut by 9% in 2003 alone, a policy that wasn't exactly to the liking of many in the party. Given the current economic situation in the US, would you radically cut spending if you were President?

Now first, I want to state this fact: I am not a republican, I'm a Centrist Blue Dog Democrat. For cutting Government spending, it seems what is most unpopular in our party as of right now may actually be helpful for our nation. Yes, I cut State spending in 2003 by 9% while I was governor of Tennessee. I stand by it, however. During the Economic meltdown of 2007, the states suffered but there were a few shining examples. Tennessee was one of them during that time. We didn't just get through it, we prospered and thrived without introducing an Income or a Sales tax. I want to be able to do the same for our Nation. If I can have the same success by cutting Government spending by 5-10%, along with the 20% corporate tax rate and my tax bracket, we can jumpstart the Economy and get it working like it should be because this Economy and more of the same like it being suggested just isn't helpful.

Closing Statement

These ideas are not the ideas of a Republican-ite, which I feel some, especially my opponents, may label me as. I am not, however. I'm a Centrist and what that means is I don't want America to go completely to the left or completely to the right. During the 90s, we had a Centrist president and we, as a nation, thrived because of it. America, it's time to try centrism again. Thank you for allowing me to be here, it's been an honor.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 10, 2018, 05:00:56 AM
Phil Bredesen Campaign in November part I (November 1st- November 10th

November 1st-November 4th: Rallies in Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Iowa, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Nevada, and South Carolina on Immigration, Taxes, Healthcare, Industry, and Economic reform.

November 5th: Rallies in Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, Alabama, and Kansas on Foreign Policy, Trade reform, and Tax reform while an Anti-Establishment Rally in Nashville, Tennessee

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Hello Nashville! *Audience Cheers* It's good to be home after a long while. I want to thank all of you for your support for me. We are not done yet and I doubt we ever will be. I have received some pretty interesting information, however. There are those in the Establishment that completely and utterly despise me because of all my stances. Well, Good! *Audience cheers and laughs with Bredesen* This is the Same Political establishment that ruined our Economy. Why should I want their 'love' when I have more than enough from all of my supporters? The answer is I shouldn't. This Campaign, unlike those of the President, Senator Clinton, and Senator Feingold, is completely supported and done by you and for you! Thank you for allowing me to achieve the label of Anti-establishment Candidate, it's a great honor! *Audience Cheers loudly as he leaves, before he stops for a moment, and then walks into the crowd to meet as many people there as possible.*

November 6th-November 10th: Rallies on the previous ideals and the Anti-establishment title in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Tennessee, North Dakota, Iowa, Alabama, Nebraska, Montana, Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota, Arkansas, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Louisana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 10, 2018, 08:08:18 AM
Phil Bredesen Ad on Obama's Economic Policies labeled 'Appalachia Suffers'

President Barrack Obama

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You constantly talk about the idea of Alternative Energy and all of it's benefits, despite there being proof that being completely dependent on Alternative Energy doesn't work out.

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In the process of promoting the false energy, you have forgotten a group that puts everything on Fossil Fuels

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These people who work in Coal mines and Oil drills day in and day out have only that job to help them feed their families and because of their hard work, we get actual power and a reliable energy source and now you want them out of the job?

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For Shame, Mr.President. For Shame.

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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 10, 2018, 10:38:22 AM
November 7th, 2011

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Hello, this is Wolf Blitzler of CNN and we have a special interview with Democratic Candidate for the 2012 election, Former Governor of Tennessee. Phil Bredesen. Thank you for being here, Phil.


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It's great to be here, Wolf.



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Now, I would like to ask you a handful of questions as I know you have a busy schedule today. 1. Many Democrats think your apology over Libya was 'strange.' Mind telling us why you did it?



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Well, Wolf, I thought about the days after the first debate and realized right after Gaddafi's death that my stance was a bit too extreme, so I decided to change it and publicly apologize for it. I prefer Honesty over doubling down and admitting you were wrong for a Candidate than anything else so that's what I did.



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2. Recently, there have been a few hundred arrests from the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement. Thoughts on these arrests?


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I believe in Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression. Those citizens have an absolute right to protest, peacefully and I emphasize protesting peacefully, so they shouldn't be arrested. Those who have been turning protesting into violent rioting should be arrested however as not only are they tainting a good cause, they're causing property Damage and disturbing the peace in a way the peaceful protestors aren't.



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3. Recently, People have been calling you an Anti-Establishment candidate and you have accepted that title. Mind telling us why?



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Well, Wolf, I have accepted the title because I am not an establishment candidates. I want people to fund me the way Howard Dean's Campaign was funded in 2004. No Super PACs and no mainstream establishment types. I'm a candidate for the people and the Establishment aren't for the people, they're against it. I'm just the angry hammer people are using to shatter the glass of the establishment.



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4. You have been found as calling President Obama a liar and have even challenged his idea of Diversity of Religion. Mind telling us why?



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Listen, Wolf, the reason why I said that is obvious. In 2008, Barrack Obama campaigned on Change. Back then, we didn't know what his change was but by now we do. And it isn't good. Obama promised a change in Unemployment, there hasn't been one. Obama promised a change in the debt, there hasn't been. Obama promised a change in the economy, yet we're still in a recession. Obama promised things he couldn't do. He has lied and is thus a liar.

For the Religious diversity thing, I don't think a person who practices religion should be forced to do what goes against their religious beliefs. For example, if a Christian bakery doesn't want to serve a Gay couple, then that should be respected. Only if they go violent should these people not be trusted.



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But Mr. Bredesen, wouldn't that enable Hate groups such as the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK?



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Wolf, that is a real concern. As much as I despise those people, however, I respect their right to their opinions. As long as they aren't violent about it, I really don't mind them. The moment they're violent, however, I will slam the hammer of the law right down on them. Violent activities is something that indisputable against the law and these people will deserve it if they attack or kill anyone, especially because of their skin color or sexuality



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7. During the debate, you said SENATOR Ron Paul. Did you mean Representative Ron Paul and just Misspoke?



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Yeah, that was a big mistake on my part. I was caught in the moment and I forgot that Ron Paul was and is still a representative. I think we all have the moment when we mix up words, yes? I do apologize to the mistake and I admit that if I lose a little support in the polls because of it, I won't mind it because I knew I made a gaffe.



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8. When you talk about a partial repeal of Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act, what do you mean?



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Well Wolf, I have stated that it needs some work. One large National healthcare company can't really work out and it shows as premium's are predicted to be almost completely unaffordable by 2018. The Supreme Court is looking at the Constitutionality of it, as we all know. I want to partially repeal by splitting it into 50 different brands and those brands split into multiple companies for every state. The more the competition, the better the Healthcare.



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9. You are calling yourself as a Blue Dog Centrist Bill Clinton-style Democrat. There are those in the progressive wing of the party who claims they are out of touch with the average democrat. Mind putting your thoughts in?



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From 1993-2001, our nation boomed and expanded rapidly, we actually got laws passed with a Republican congress and Democrat Congress. We had a $5.6 Trillion surplus and our Economy was doing amazingly well. That was under Centrist Bill Clinton as President. I want to do the same thing. The American people have shown their disdain for the Progressives who claim they stand for the entire party and America in 2010. They aren't the group to lead. I will, as a centrist, allow laws to be passed even with a Republican congress because I can work across party lines and get the job done. The progressives can't. That's a fact, Wolf.



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Thanks for being here, Phil. That was all.



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Thank you, Wolf. It was an honor being here too.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 10, 2018, 11:43:51 AM
Carolla Debate answers
1.Mr. Carolla, one of the main points of what is considered to be Libertarianism is the view of a small government, often a dramatically small one. Just how small or how large do you think government should be?

Carolla:The way the founding fathers wanted it to be. defense, military, the courts and the police.
I said this before and I will say it again. I want a government so small I can barley see it.  If the founding fathers of this great country saw how big the size it is now and how many taxes there are they would be rolling in there graves!!!  We had a revolution over this sort of issues!

I’m asking to make things very simple. Obey the constitution,Limit the size of government,be concerned of the accumulation of power no matter what party is in charge and balence the budget.  

Don’t regulate this country to death and make us competitive worldwide by reducing our corporate tax rate.  We have the highest cooperate income tax in all of the planet. So we gotta reasses who we are as people.

We spend and tax this country so much a government shutdown in the future is likely!

And to me it’s very simple! Let’s be for liberty and let’s be for a constitutional reform of our size of the government and balence our budget every year and in that cause I am going to fight for you and I hope you are there with me.

We gotta unleash the Amercian dream and like my campaign motto says let’s defeat the Washington machine!!


 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 10, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
Carolla debate answers part 2

2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?

Carolla:Well I support right to work I think it’s it will help out Labor Unions and Unions in general.  Look I feel your pain also coming from a poor family.  I’ve talked to these people in Nevada and Iowa where I campaigning on reforming NAFTA and so called free trade.  I would love to see as President voluntary unions that are not restricted from big business telling them what to do.  I would love to see those people and their groups be freely to do whatever they want and prevent them from monopolies created by the government in the first place. And as President I will stop government controlled monopolies from getting into those unions and creating disasters.

As President I will put working families first over corporations!!

Now as for more on Right to Work here’s why I think it’s is good for our country.

The idea that Working Americans should be forced pay dues to a labor unions is just well plain Un Amercian. This act will remove from these provisions which gives union officials the power to corral workers and their money under union monopoly control. As President I will not add any restrictions to any existing law. Rather I will remove from labor law those provisions which give union officials control over Amercian workers who must either comply with the union bosses demands or else they will be fired.

So that is why I think Right to work is good for Amercian union and labor unions.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 10, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
Carolla campaign answers part 3
3.Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

Carolla:Well as President I promise not to declare war on anyone unless they have are seen as a actually threat and unless it is constitutionally apporirate.

If Iran develops weapons of mass destruction I will send in peacekeepers from that happening and I will make with war Iran a last resort. Think about the Cold War and how we were on the brink of nuclear destruction we were able to instead of decorating a boots on the ground War we where about to peaceful tell them to don’t do it don’t nuke us into a million pieces. 

So if it perfectly worked with Soviets and the Chinese back in the day I think it could perfectly work with Iran today

I personally believe I am find a peaceful way to stop this program and unlike in Iraq I will not lie about false WMDs in Iran

However I feel like this current administration is weaking our relations with Iran is making them want to create such a weapon of destruction and I don’t that to happen.

I will be a strong commander in chief and have both of my eyes wide open with my Milltary to keep a eye on this and watch to see if they would ever try to put this off.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 11, 2018, 10:19:21 AM
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Campaign Schedule, November 2011

Schedule:
November 1-14: South Carolina
November 15-17: Georgia
November 18-24: Iowa
November 25-27: Maine
November 28: New Hampshire
November 29-30: South Carolina (again)

South Carolina (November 1-14)
Rally in Greenville, Spartanburg, and Florence
Rally w/ Sonny Perdue in Columbia
Fundraiser w/ Sonny Perdue in Myrtle Beach
Town Hall in Hilton Head Island and Clemson
Meet & Greet across all of South Carolina

Key Issues: Abortion, economic recovery, income tax cuts

Georgia (November 15-17)
Rally in Augusta
Publicly Endorsed by Gov. Nathan Deal at Atlanta Rally
Fundraiser in Macon and Marietta w/ Sonny Perdue and Nathan Deal

Key Issues: Immigration reform, education reform, record of consistency

Iowa (November 18-24)
Rally in Sioux City and Ames
Town Hall in Davenport and Dubuque
Fundraiser in West Des Moines
Meet & Greet across all of Iowa

Key Issues: Farm Subsidies, balancing the budget, education reform

Maine (November 25-27)
Fundraiser in Portland
Rally in Augusta
Publicly Endorsed by Gov. Paul LePage at Rally in Augusta

Key Issues: Education Reform, Retirement Benefits, economic recovery

New Hampshire (November 28)
Fundraiser in Manchester w/ Gov. LePage

Key Issues: Economic Recovery

South Carolina (November 29-30)
Fundraiser in Rock Hill w/ Gov. Nathan Deal
Town Hall in Anderson
Meet & Greet across South Carolina

Key Issues: Education Reform, record of consistency


Campaign Staff Operations
  • Social Media Grassroots expansion
  • Calling landlines
  • Knocking door to door, mostly in early states
  • Spreading the campaign message everywhere



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 11, 2018, 11:43:41 AM
Adam Carolla campaign update

Carolla campaigned in Florida in the first week on Right to Work laws and on corporation reform.

Carolla campagined on a new issue the next week in New Hampshire on aduting the Federal Reserve calling it a “political banking cartel” and The negative effects it has on the economy.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2018, 02:07:29 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
November 1 to Novmber 30, 2011

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November 1 to November 4: Senator Clinton continues her campaign visit to Florida. With Senator Bill Nelson, she holds a rally at Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale to discuss her plan for economic recovery, pleding to "actually deliver the economic recovery that" President Obama promised. She highlights the aggressiveness in her plan to combat "predatory companies" and protect "the American worker". While still in Florida, she meets with retirees in Orlando and recent immigrants in Miami. Senator Nelson joins her as often as his schedule allows.

November 5 to November 7: Senator Clinton takes a train from Florida to Georgia. She holds a breakfast meet-and-greet in Macon with local Democratic Party volunteers. Then the Senator drives to Atlanta for a sit-down interview at CNN headquarters with Wolf Blitzer before giving a major speech on foreign policy at the historic Fox Theater.

Clinton labels her foreign policy as "strong, active, and involved." She calls for the strengthening of America's international alliances, the rebuilding of "confidence in American exceptionalism", and pursuing "a global solution to the global problem" of terrorism. Turning to recent issues, she condemned the attack on the British Embassy in Iran and called on Iran to "ends it nuclear program once and for all", leaving the conversation open as to what the punishment for Iran might be.

November 8 to November 10: Senator Clinton flies from Georgia to Virginia. In Virginia, she holds a press conference with Virginia Senator Mark Warner to accept Senator Warner's endorsement. At the event she calls Senator Warner "one of the best and brightest minds" in the Senate on financial services and applauded his work after the financial crisis. The Senators tour the Salvation Army headquarters in Alexandria, and Senator Clinton visits with employees of Inova Health System.

November 11 to November 14: Senator Clinton drives from Virginia to Washington, D.C. to participate in some Senate business. She holds a press conference with California Senator Diane Feinstein to accept Senator Feinstein's endorsment. Senator Clinton praises Senator Feinstein's "massive advancement of women's" and LGBT rights during her career.

November 15 to November 17: The top Clinton Campaign staffers and surrogates meet with Senator Clinton at her Chappaqua home to discuss campaign messaging and strategy. Senator Clinton, President Clinton, Senator Feinstein, Senator Nelson, Senator Shaheen, Senator Warner, Governor Cuomo, and Mayor Menino hold a massive Democratic Party fundraiser in New York City.

November 18 to November 22: The Clinton Campaign returns to New Hampshire. Senator Clinton and Senator Shaheen swing through the state, holding six town hall meetings in five days, speaking to voters in Manchester, Laconia, Nashua, Concord, Salem, and Portsmouth. Senator Clinton also goes on the New Hampshire Diner Tour, visiting iconic locations like the Red Arrow Diner in Manchester, Mary Ann's Diner in Derry, and the Tilt'n Diner in Tilton. The emphasis of this series of campaign stop is to fight the image of Senator Clinton as an elitist.

November 23 to November 28: The Clinton Campaign takes a Thanksgiving break. Senator and President Clinton spend the holiday at their Chappaqua home with Chelsea and Marc.

November 29 and November 30: Senator Clinton returns to the campaign trail with her first visit to Iowa. She meets with high school students in Des Moines to discuss the rising cost of higher education and then holds a rally in Newton. Senator Clinton also goes door-knocking with campaign volunteers in Mason City.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 11, 2018, 02:20:36 PM
Phil Bredesen Campaign Part II (November 11th-November 20th)

November 11th-November 18th: Rallies in Kentucky,  Tennessee, West Virginia, Florida, and Nevada on Fossil Fuels, Education reform, Foreign Policy, Anti-Establishment Candidacy, Tax Reform, and Healthcare Reform

November 18th:
-Rally in Denver, Colorado on Education Reform
-Rally in Clarksburg, West Virginia on Fossil Fuel Energy
-Fundraiser for charity in Richmond, Virginia
-Rally in Detroit, Michigan on Economic Reform



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"Detroit, It's great to be here, in the World's Automotive Capital...except, it really isn't that anymore, isn't it?" *crowd remains in silent sadness with Bredesen for a few seconds* "I feel as if we truly lost something here. Years ago, this city was the icon of what hard work and Economic Progress does to a city. Now however, all your steel that was the lifeblood of this city is either closed down or in China or another country. Your jobs here are non-existent anymore, meaning it's hard for you to make a living. I can only imagine how hard that is. Who's policy, may I ask, led to that whoever? Not just Bush. Who promised change but only lied about it? That's right, President Obama. I have economic policies that will bring Jobs back! They are gone because of the high taxes, I will lower Taxes. They are gone because of our 28% Corporate Tax Rate, I promise to Lower the Corporate Tax Rate to 20%. Vote for me and You will get back everything you lost under Bush and Obama! *Bredesen leaves after thanking crowd and walks into them while shaking their hands*

November 19th-November 20th: Hosts rallies and Fundraisers in Michigan, West Virginia, Tennessee, Florida, and Kentucky on the same issues he talked about in the previous few days of November.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 11, 2018, 02:36:25 PM
Bredesen Attack Ad on Hillary Clinton titled "What Really Happened?"; set to air in all Early Primary states

Senator Clinton

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In 1993, a Friend of yours in the Rose Law Firm and a White House Deputy Counsel, Vince Foster, was found shot dead in a park on the Potomac river from an apparent Suicide

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Within hours of his death, aides of yours entered his office.

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Senator Clinton, be honest.

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What really happened?



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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2018, 04:26:24 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
November 2011 Debate

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Q1: An overlooked but increasingly relevant problem in America is that of Education and now to address issues of quality and learning from students. What are your plans for Educational policy?


Clinton: I believe that every child is entitled to a good education, regardless of their skin color or economic status. We need to start our public education at a younger age. Studies have found that students who attend a prekindergarten program are better developed socially, have an easier time grasping new concepts, and generally perform better on later standardized tests. We need to increase funding to Head Start, to make sure that some children aren't going into kindergarten inherently disadvantaged. Once we get kids into K-12 schools, we need to make sure they have good teachers. We need to increase subsidies to grad school students becoming teachers and we need to continue the policy of forgiving student loan debt to teachers who work in our hardest school districts. It's also important that we make sure every child has access to computer science education, because that's where the future of our economy is. It's going to be expensive, but this is the commitment we have to make as a society to our future.

With regards to higher education, I've spoken on this before many times. We need to increase loan forgiveness programs for public sector employees, like police officers and firefighters, to incentivize students to go into these critical fields. We need to go after predatory loan companies that take advantage of students and trap them in cycles of debt. For-profit schools are also at fault for the higher education crisis in this country, because men like Donald Trump and his "Trump University" are interested in increasing their bottomlines, rather than increasing the level of knowledge of the students. For-profit universities exist to make money, not to education students, and they often lure prospective students in with exhaustive aid packages that are mostly made of loans with astronomical interest rates. Tackling for-profit schools and increasing access to non-profit and state-run colleges and universities will put so many more young adults on better, safer, and more strudy paths into adulthood.

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Q2: Serious concerns regarding party unity always emerge when there is a challenge to a sitting President, particularly given the latest Presidents to be seriously challenged lost in 1992 and 1980. If you become the Democratic nominee, how will you unite the party?

Clinton: I'm going to unite the Democratic Party through my campaign. I've presented, and will continue to present, the strongest vision of the United States. My plan will increase jobs, raise wages, promote a safe military, and increase confidence in our country. I'm not going to pander to the Democratic Party in order to secure their support; I'm going to present a hopeful and constructive plan for America and the Democratic Party can get in line, or they can vote for the Republican nominee. My campaign is about winning over the majority of Americans with the best proposal for our country, not about winning over the majority of Democrats with the most concessionary propsal, and I'm not going to change my message and beliefs to suit them.

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Candidate Question: Senator, a line of attack that has been emphasized by your rivals is that of political ambition, particularly relating to your decision to run for office in New York and not Arkansas. How do you respond to those who believe you are more interested in just winning?

Clinton: First off, my family and I haven't really lived in one state for a long time. I was raised in Illinois, Bill and I moved to Arkansas and then to Washington, and we've been in New York since 1999. New York is a cosmopolitan, international state. It's built by people of all different backgrounds. I chose to run for the Senate in New York in 2000 because of that reason, because its a state of bold ideas and even bolder people. By 2000, we hadn't really lived in Arkansas for eight years, nine years if you count the year on the campaign trail. If D.C. had a Senator, maybe I would have run there. But D.C. lacks a voice in the Senate, or any voting representation in Congress despite having to pay federal taxes, and I turned to New York. New Yorkers accepted me with open arms in 2000, they did it again in 2006, and they'd do it again in 2012 if I were running again. This isn't a political issue anymore, it's been settled by the people of New York several times. What is an issue, and what no one's talking about, is dealing with the issue of representation for the people of the District of Columbia.

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Closing Statement

Clinton: In his closing statement, Governor Breseden said something that I found interesting. He said in 1990s, we had a centrist President and America thrived under that President. What Governor Breseden left out there, I think you'll all remember, is that that centrist President is the guy I'm married to! Maybe Governor Breseden forgot, or he just didn't want to give my family any credit. Folks, I wasn't hiding in the East Wing while my husband was in office. I had an office in the West Wing, I played a key role in vetting nominees, and I crafted and advocate for several policy positions, including healthcare. When he was running in 1992, my husband's campaign promised "two for the price of one." Well, think back to the 1990s. Think about the prosperity we had. Think about the security we had. If you liked the 1990s while my husband was in office, you're going to love the 2010s if I'm in office.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2018, 04:39:04 PM
Hillary Clinton Interview
November 2011

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Blitzer: Welcome to The Situation Room, I'm Wolf Blitzer. Joining me in an exclusive interview is Senator Hillary Clinton, who has been leading an aggressive campaign against President Obama for the Democratic nomination and has just taken the lead in the critical states of New Hampshire and Florida. Senator, welcome.

Clinton: Thank you, Wolf.

Blitzer: Senator, Governor Breseden just launched an attack ad against you. Let's watch it now.

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Clinton: Oh boy, here we go again.

Blitzer: Any response?

Clinton: Vince Foster was a friend of mine, and a friend of my husband. He was a good worker in the White House and a very nice guy. We were so, so distraut when we learned about his death. There were three investigations into Vince's death: one by Robert Fiske, one by the Senate Banking Committee, and one by Ken Starr, no friend of my husband or our administration. All three investigations found that there was no basis for a homicide charge and confirmed what we all knew: Vince had been battling suicide and took his life. To stir up this mud from 1993 is disturbing and deeply upsetting.

Blitzer: What do you think this ad, which Governor Breseden himself put his name on, says about Governor Breseden and his campagin?

Clinton: I'll leave that commentary up to the American people, but this is certainly not the kind of discourse that a potential President of the United States should be engaging.

Blitzer: I'll have more of my exclusive interview with Senator Hillary Clinton coming up after this.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 11, 2018, 06:44:38 PM
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Phil Bredesen interview with Rachel Madow on the 'Rachel Madow Show'

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MADDOW: Our Next Guest is Former Governor of Tennessee, Phil Bredesen. Welcome, Phil.

BREDESEN: It's great to be here, Rachel.

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MADDOW: Mr. Bredesen, in a recent ad, you claimed there was something more to the Death of Vince Foster and Senator Clinton knew more about it. She has responded to it herself has seen it and talked about it with Wolf Blitzer in The Situation Room. Mind explaining why you brought up the Vince Foster incident?

BREDESEN: Well, Rachel, I think everything is too much of a coincidence for the Clinton's not to know what happened. First, the suicide weapon, a .38 Caliber Revolver that dated back to 1913. That gun was the weapon a Marine officer apparently used to commit suicide in the movie A Few Good Men, which Vince Recently watched.

Second, in 1999, a man known as David Brock  wrote an article detailing a meeting with Rex Armistead to discuss a 'Foster Death scenario'

Third, the police were investigating the suicide scene where the police cheif stated there was no exit wound on Foster. Strange, since suicide by gun usually leaves a exit wound.

Fourth, Patrick Matrisciana, president of Citizens for Honest Government at the time, attempted to interview two people who were inside the Government. Those two people went by plans and before they could arrive their planes crashed. A bit off topic, I admit, but These two men died in very coincedental ways.

Finally, a good friend of theirs, Jim McDougall, who was in prison for Fraud at the time, stated that before Foster's alleged suicide, Hillary bullied him non-stop about Whitewater. He finally died after Hillary humiliated him in a white house meeting.

Foster knew a great many things about the Clinton's. He was defending them after all. Maddow, I would just like the FBI to open up this case one last time, with new modern technology. I want it to be completely independent attorneys. If they don't find anything new, then I apologise to you for this Mrs. Clinton, I just wanted to make sure that there was nothing actually serious happening here.

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MADDOW: Before you came here, you said that you had more things on Clinton, though they weren't about Foster.
Mind telling us what that is?

BREDESEN: Rachel, I actually have a flash drive of several very insensitive things has said in the past. First, in 1996, she called young 'African American youth super predators'. Let's watch.

https://youtu.be/j0uCrA7ePno



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MADDOW:. I barely remember that. Wow, how could she ever come back from something like that?

BREDESEN: I think it's because most people forgot about it and never looked it up again. Still, something like this needs to be discussed Mrs. Clinton. You have yet to speak of it and so far, you only have Bill speaking about it.



Also, please remember that she was a member of the Water gate investigation and that wanted Nixon to continue being President so another Democrat to be Elected president. If you ask me, that's attempting to Manipulate our Democracy for Political gain. Something like that is highly unethical of a Senator or a President so please Senator Clinton, explain what happened.

Finally, we have multiple reports that Clinton brought multiple aides to tears throughout Bill's Presidency. That is not becoming of any leader that I know of. I apologise to Senator Clinton if these accusations hit too close to home but I honestly don't feel you are the right candidate for President until you get your act together. You said as your closing statement that you were still a Centrist. I highly doubt that. Your a moderate but not a Centrist now.





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MADDOW: Just from how much you talked about this,
I can tell that you want answers. I actually agree as of right now. But, Mr.Bredesen, you told me that you weren't just coming here to discuss Senator Clinton.

BREDESEN: Yes, that's true, I wanted to also talk about Policy. Mainly Education and Fossil Fuels.

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MADDOW: We got sneak peek views on your opinions on these. Can you explain why you think the way you do?


BREDESEN: For Education, I think it's time that Kids take control of what they learn and how they learn it. Another thing is to get rid of Standardized testing. The Creator of them, Frederick J. Kelly, famously said "These tests are too crude to be used and should be abandoned. For too long, Politicians and Congressional officials have controlled how education works. I think it's now time to take that power away from them and instead give it back to the kids and the teachers.



For Fossil Fuels, I argue that we should rely on them for long enough that people can still make a living from working in them. What Obama is doing is suggesting a total job change which would lead to multiple people losing their livelihoods. That can't happen, Rachel. I'm determined to stop it myself.

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MADDOW: Wow. Thank you for being here Phil, it's been a real learning experience.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 11, 2018, 07:54:53 PM
Carolla campaigns in Florida on NASA next to Kennedy Space Center
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One of my earliest memories ever was in 1969 watching with my family the moon landing and Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon and being amazed with that imagination on what we have accomplished and how really how far we our advantage was against the Soviets.

However in the recent years President Obama has cut NASA spending so that he can have enough troops to go to war with and unfortunately had decided to end spending and the program all together for

However as president I will bring new light into NASA and new hope into the program of manned missions

As President I will rebuild NASA’s manned program and work on history in the  American aerospace industry with getting the first man on Mars by the 2030s and bring back the Moon program where we shall complete the dream to built moon colonies and explore life beyond this blue dot.

*Crowd cheers*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2018, 07:55:43 PM
Hillary Clinton Interview
November 2011

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Blitzer: I'm back with Senator Hillary Clinton. Senator, let's turn to policy for a moment but then I have more from Governor Breseden, who's just finished speaking on another network, that I want to get your take. Senator, in the most recent Democratic Presidential debate, you brought up the issue of D.C. Statehood, saying you would run for the Senate in 2000 in Washington if it had representation. Is D.C. Statehood a fight worth having?

Clinton: Is ensuring that 693,000 American citizens have representation in their government a fight worth having? Yes, I think it is. We fought a revolution in this country, at least in part, based on the idea of no taxation without representation. Well, for more than half-a-million people living in D.C., they're paying taxes without representation, without a voting representative in either House of Congress.

Blitzer: Why now? What makes 2012 - 2011, excuse me - the year to take up this issue?

Clinton: It's not a new position, or a new fight. My husband and I endorsed the movement in 1993, during our first year in office. This has been issue that I'd like to talk about, and I've been trying to talk about for years, but it's hard to talk about an issue if reporters don't ask about it.

Blitzer: Let's return to Governor Breseden. He's just wrapped up speaking to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. In his interview, he brings up remarks you made in 1996 regarding "superpredators", alleging you used the term to describe African American youth. Let's watch the tape.

- Tape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno&feature=youtu.be) plays -

Blitzer: Can you explain that remark?

Clinton: Well Wolf, this isn't really news. I've addressed this event many times during my career. To clarify, I never - never - say that African American youth are superpredators. What I said, if you actually listen to the tape, is that the United States needed to take a hard-line approach to street gangs, drug cartels, and violent crime, the kinds of people that may be called superpredators. I was not calling African American youth superpredators, I was using a term that other people had used to described violent criminals, people with a lack of emotional understanding and sympathy. I then also went on to say that we needed to try to heal these criminals, to bring them back in touch with their humanity. While I didn't use the term as Governor Breseden seems to suggest, I can understand why someone may be upset about the term and I do apologize for that.

Blitzer: Governor Breseden also brings up your time on the Watergate investigation and your relationships with various White House staffers during your husband's administration. Senator, do you want to comment on those allegtions before our time is up?

Clinton: I can't spend my time responding to every conspiracy theory that's put out there. I'm running for President on a platform built around bold ideas and strong action, I wish we could have had more time to talk about that platform.

Blitzer: Senator, thank you.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
Hillary Clinton Press Release
November 2011

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- Campaign Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri -

In 1993, Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster killed himself in Virginia. It was a tragic time for all who knew Vince, including then-President Bill Clinton and the First Lady, Hillary Clinton. Vince had been under significant stress in the White House Counsel's Office and, as many people had noticed, was battling with depression. Over the years, six investigations into Vince's death were held, with the biggest three being by White House Special Counsel Robert Fiske, the Senate Banking Committee, and White House independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. All six investigations came to the same conclusion: Vince ended his own life. None of these investigations, no matter how conclusive, have failed to dissuade conspiracy theorists, first in right-wing tabloid magazines, then online chat rooms, and now, it seems, Governor Phil Bredesen. To continue to dig up the tragic suicide of Vince Foster is disappointing and disheartening. To continue to attempt to blame Senator Clinton or former President Clinton for Vince Foster's death is sickening. Senator Clinton calls on Governor Bredesen to retract his remarks and issue an apology to both herself and her husband, as well as the family of Vince Foster.

Governor Bredesen's controversial remarks, however, do not end with his allegations about the death of Vince Foster. In an interview with Rachel Maddow of MSNBC, Governor Bredesen brought up what he claims to be a shocking, secret video of then-First Lady Clinton calling "African American youth superpredators". This video, despite Governor Bredesen's claim, is not a secret that has been hidden in a vault for many years. It was on CSPAN in 1996, and Senator Clinton has responded to it many times. If you actually listen to then-First Lady Clinton's remarks, what she said was:

"But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs. Just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel."

In no way, did then-First Lady Clinton call African American youth "superpredators" as Governor Bredesen claims. She was laying out an anti-crime platform for the second term of her husband and used the term "superpredator" in reference to violent criminals who lack conscience and empathy. It is Governor Bredesen who applies this term to African American youth, not Senator Clinton. Senator Clinton does, however, recognize the term may cause displeasure and upset people. For that, she apologizes and calls on Governor Bredesen to do the same.

Governor Bredesen continued to present controversial conspiracy theories about Senator Clinton in his interview with Rachel Maddow. Among these other conspiracy theories that Governor Bredesen pushed is that idea that Senator Clinton, as a young assistant counsel in the Watergate investigation, obstructed justice to keep President Nixon in office in order to advance the goals of the Democratic Party. It was Senator Clinton that did much of the research for the investigation into the history of impeachments and the historical basis for pursuing such actions against President Nixon. There is nothing further from the truth than what Governor Bredesen is claiming. Senator Clinton calls on Governor Bredesen to retract his claim and issue an apology to Senator Clinton.

Governor Bredesen, on top of making ugly remarks about the suicide of a friend of President and Senator Clinton, on top of making allegations that Senator Clinton is racist, on top of claiming that Senator Clinton obstructed justice in the Watergate investigation, attacked Senator Clinton for her relationship with White House staff during her husband's presidency. This attack is baseless. Many people who worked with then-First Lady Clinton in the White House have followed her through her career afterwards, working with her in the Senate, on her 2008 campaign for President, and on her current campaign for President. Senator Clinton has always had a strong relationship with the people working around her and continues to have such relationships. Senator Clinton calls on Governor Bredesen to apologize for making such a baseless claim.

This is the final comment from the Clinton Campaign on these claims from Governor Bredesen. Senator Clinton is focused on running a campaign to secure equal pay for female employees, increasing the number of well-paying jobs and turning the economy around, and promoting a more secure nation. Governor Bredesen appears to be running a campaign based on peddling conspiracy theories from the deepest corners of the internet. These are the kinds of comments Senator Clinton would expect from Breitbart and Steve Bannon, not from a candidate for the President of the United States and a former Governor. Senator Clinton believes the American people are smart enough to recognize this themsevles.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 12, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
Message from James Mackler, Campaign Communications chair for Bredesen for 2012

Recently, our Candidate, former governor Phil Bredesen have made several comments on Senator Hillary Clinton and several conspiracies following her around. What she does not know is that Mr. Bredesen feel as if he is dirtying the name of himself and Senator Clinton by bringing out this old news. The reason Mr. Bredesen had done this was because several advisors of his, who have been revealed to have been agents of Steve Bannon of Breitbart to ruin Mr. Bredesen and Senator Clinton's credibility, wrote several scripts for him on the Conspiracies (most of which have been torn to shreds by Mr. Bredesen himself, by now). Promptly, after the interview with Rachel Maddow, Mr. Bredesen stated that he felt as if he just badmouthed half the country and the day after interrogated the advisors and one of them cracked under the pressure of the interrogation, spilling out everything. They were fired minutes later. In a message of Goodwill to Mrs. Clinton, he will retract all statements on Senator Clinton's conspiracies and would to offer Her, Bill, and the rest of their family to attend Christmas with his family as a form of apology for her.

Again, Mr. Bredesen is not a conspiracy theorist and thus he would like to retract several statements he had made. It take an honest man to admit when he was wrong and why. We implore Senator Clinton to forgive him and instead put all blame on Steve Bannon, as he was the one who brought the agents into Mr. Bredesen's campaign that started this whole nonsense.

As of right now, Mr. Bredesen is currently feeling sorrowful and won't campaign for the entire day in order to allow all of this to simmer down. Also, Senator Clinton, please don't put him at fault entirely. He and his wife were very reluctant in doing this but the rest of the campaign (some of us more reluctantly than others) pressured him into doing it. Thank you. Mr. Bredesen will be back on the Campaign Trail on November 23rd.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 12, 2018, 11:39:36 AM
Carolla campaigns back in Nevada in mid October on free enterprise
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President Obama is leading us on a road to Corporate Socalism. It’s said but true.  He has chewed and spit on the system of Free Enterpise the system which founded this country and made it great.

He doesn’t care about hard working families like I have seen up here in Nevada. *The crowd cheers*
He doesn’t care about small businesses and people struggling to find work.  It was all just one big act for him to get elected!

What he puts first are corporations,Special interests, his donor and the people at the top. 
He gives the little people the a small piece of the pie while he gives those people one gigantic piece.

I can say the same thing about Hillary Clinton. *Crowd boos at her too* and Mitt Romney *Crowd boos hardsr*  However there is a choice for workings families and small businesses and that is the person talking to you right now *Crowd cheers*

As President I will embrace the free market and free enterprise values that were founded and made this country great and we are going to do that again.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 12, 2018, 11:59:22 AM
Bredesen Campaign for the rest of the November (November 21st-November 31st)

November 21st:
- Interview on Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC
- Rally in Charleston, West Virginia on fossil fuels
- Rally in Denver, Colorado on Education Reform

November 22nd:
No campaigning for the day to show remorse and to show a true apology for Senator Clinton on the Conspiracy Theories Bannon's agents implanted in his campaign while he also pulled and removed the ad 'What Really Happened' from everywheres.

November 23rd:
- Rally in Las Vegas, Nevada on Immigration
- Rally in Lansing, Michigan on Economics
- Rally in Greenville, South Carolina on Tax Reform
- Meeting the college Voters in Concord, New Hampshire

November 24th:
- No campaigning on this day; Phil and Andre Cote visit New York City Soup Kitchen and gives thanks for what they have while Benjamin goes to Chicago to help the children learn how to live a better life.

November 25th-30th:
November 25th shows Bredesen have Rallies in South Carolina, Kentucky, Colorado, and Nevada on Immigration, Taxes, Education, and Fossil Fuels

November 26th sees Bredesen campaign for Government reform in Sacramento, California while also having a rally in Concord, New Hampshire on Education reform and Sparks, Nevada on Immigration

November 27th sees Bredesen give a PSA on respect and how to be a respectful candidate to be president before stating that he had been quite disrespectful with Senator Clinton and would be alright if he lost a few support in the next polls because he deserved it. This was followed by a rally in Nashville, Tennessee on Economic Reform and Pittsburg, PA on Economic Reform

November 28th: Bredesen holds Rallies in Blackburg, Virginia, Evansville, Indiana, and Springfield, Massachussets on Fossil Fuels, Economic Reform, and Education reform respectfully.

November 29th: Bredesen holds a fundraiser in Atlanta, Georgia and by the end, he raises $200K, all of which he promptly gives to charity before announcing that his campaign will be funded online. He holds 2 rallies - 1 in Putnam, Connecticut on Education Reform and 1 in Buffalo, New York on the Economy

November 30th: Bredesen visits College voters in Philadelphia, PA and Concord, NH, Holds a fundraiser in Los Angeles, CA (which raises $500K before he gives all of it to charity) and then holds an Anti-Establishment Rally in Little Rock, Arkansas


When asked if they should run an ad on Feingold, Bredesen denied the opportunity stating that for at least a month he won't run any negative ads unless there is a real concern before he calls Senator Clinton to request a truce to last until the day after Christmas in which neither of them attacks each other negatively.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 12, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
Carolla campaign update part 3

Carolla campaigned on tax reform in in the later stage of November in New Hampshire and Vermont and on Foreign Policy in Iowa in the final days.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 12, 2018, 05:39:00 PM
Upton For President

November 1-15: New Hampshire
November 16-24: Iowa
November 25-30: Maine



New Hampshire:
Rally in Manchester, Concord, Nashua and Keene.
Policy Speech in Concord
Fundraiser with Senators Murkowski and Collins
Luncheon with supporters



Iowa:
Rally in Des Moines (endorsed by Dick Lugar)
Speeches in Ames and Cedar Rapids
Fundraiser in Davenport with Senator Lugar
Barnstorming in Rural Counties


Maine:
Rallies in Augusta (Endorsed by Senator Olympia Snowe)
Rally with Senators Snowe and Collins
Fundraiser in Augusta and Portland for Children with Special Needs (The Congressman personally donates $5,000 of his own dollars)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 12, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
1.- Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

No, Iran is a terrorist state in the middle east, I will not attack them unless they are believed to be developing Nuclear Weapons for the use against Israel or another ally in the middle east. I will also not support Saudi Arabia if they continue with the constant and utter disrespect for the rights of women inside their country. Human Rights belong to all people not just those within our own border, and I will make the same decision with Iran we don't want them having Nukes and attacking Israel they are the Axis of Evil.  

2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?


Unions, are not a fundamental good, or bad. We need to let the free market it take it's course and I don't think laws like Right to Work or Taft-Hartley are the answer to the free markets problems, but I think we need to work towards a future, I dont think we should break the people that built the American middle class. Unions helped build my home state and our country, Caesar Chavez is one of my heros and he helped build hispanic farmworkers and other migrant workers, into a force to be feared they did not settle things with violence, or intimidation but with cooperation. Why can't we Republicans and Democrats come together and repeal Taft-Hartley.


Congressman, given your stances on issues such as gun control, health care, abortion and same-sex marriage several have doubted why you should be running as a Republican. What would you say makes you a Republican?



I don't want to be a Democrat because I believe in less Government and I don't think we should raise taxes. I think we should abolish corporate tax rate so we can bring jobs back to America I also believe we should not let the Government tell us what to do with our money, I want to lower the top bracket of taxes to 25%. Then I think we should move onto a negative income tax, which I know will help allevate the Government burden for the tax payer. People can take jobs with a negative income tax and not lose their benefits this will let us lower the tax payers burden.





Closing Statement



I am sorry that I may not seem like a regular Republican, but Im not I dont like everyone else on this stage, I dont like Republicans or Democrats Bushes and Clintons Romneys and Obamas. These Parties dont work, but I think we can change this if we fight for change and we will fight for a better America! God Bless you all and God Bless America.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 12, 2018, 11:58:23 PM
Interview w/ Ernie Fletcher
CNN Exclusive
November 14th, 2011

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Anderson Cooper: Thank you Dr. Fletcher for joining this exclusive.

Ernie Fletcher: Thank you for having me, Anderson.

Anderson Cooper: I wanted to ask you about something. As of now, many pundits consider you a long shot from the nomination in 2012. Do you think you have a chance?

Ernie Fletcher: Of course, our polling has increased dramatically since we announced. Last month, we polled at maybe 1 or 2 percent nationally. Today, we're at 5 to 6 percent, and we're doing  better in early states such as South Carolina and Iowa. It's just ignorant to throw us out of a chance at the nomination yet, especially when we're only 4th place in an early state like South Carolina. Our staff is quite motivated too. They really think they're work is paying off.

Many of those pundits also said we won the recent debate despite calling us a long shot over the so-called "inevitable nominee" Mitt Romney, so I think the facts speak for themselves. We won that debate cause we spoke the issues. Something this country needs for once, and I'm glad we were responded with support. We're anything BUT a long shot at this point.

Anderson Cooper: Alright, another question, many pundits consider you the candidate of social conservatives, would you consider yourself that?

Ernie Fletcher: I could consider myself that, Anderson. I am a social conservative, but above that, I'm a candidate of common sense. A balanced budget? That's common sense. Infrastructure reform? That's common sense. More than ever, this country needs an actual leader who doesn't stand for opportunism or dirty politics. Those people that do? They ain't gonna like me, but that doesn't matter. They only have 1 vote. That's common sense. I'd consider myself that, Mr. Cooper.

Anderson Cooper: Thank you. That's all, Governor Fletcher.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 13, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
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It's time for change. It's time for Jindal.

Campaign schedule for November

Overview:

New Hampshire: Nov. 1-4 (4 days)
Nevada: Nov. 5-9 (5 days)
Iowa: Nov. 10-15 (6 days)
Florida: Nov. 16-22 (7 days)
South Carolina: Nov. 23-30 (8 days)

Highlights:

New Hampshire ( Nov. 1 - Nov. 4 )
Held rallies in Manchester (kickoff), Hampton, Dover, Rochester, Lebanon
Took a bus tour around the state and held multiple town halls with voters across the state
Went door-to-door in each town
Ate lunch in diners with voters
Key policy: it's time for change, Obamacare repeal, getting workers jobs again

Nevada ( Nov. 5 - Nov. 9 )
Held rallies across the state in Las Vegas, Henderson, Carson City, Ely, Winnemucca
Went door-to-door and spoke with voters
Toured hospitals to talk about Obamacare reform
Ate lunch with voters, talked about plans for the presidency
Key policy: Obamacare reform and repeal, preserving American society, gun rights

Iowa ( Nov. 10 - Nov. 15 )
Held rallies in Dubuque, West Des Moines, Des Moines, Waterloo, Mason City, Ames
Went door-to-door in each town and talked policy
Toured farms, talked agricultural policy with farmers
Ate lunch with even more votes
Held town halls across the state
Key policy: pro-life, tax reform, agriculture policy

Florida ( Nov. 16 - Nov. 22 )
Made speeches in Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Panama City, Melbourne, Ocala, Port St. Lucie, Clearwater, Naples, Lakeland, Jacksonville, Sebring
Toured hospitals to talk Obamacare policy
Grassroots campaigning, went door-to-door in each city
Held more town halls across the state, started dialogues with voters
Took campaign bus across the state and just simply talked with voters
Talked about tax reform with voters, had lunch with them
Endorsement by Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll
Fundraised across the state
Talked about repairing America's infrastructure with even more voters
Key policy: tax reform, tourism policy, Obamacare repeal, infrastructure, capital projects, the environment

South Carolina ( Nov. 23 - Nov. 30 )
Made speeches in Columbia, Lexington, Camden, Florence, Lake City (yes, there's another one), Conway, Rock Hill, Greenville, Spartanburg, Simpsonville, Anderson, Charleston
Held many town halls across the state, talked to voters about their concerns
More grassroots campaign across the state, get the message of change out, go door-to-door
Eat lunch with voters
Endorsement by LA Gov. Charles Boustany
Talked about social conservatism and restoring America's society
Talked about restoring American jobs
Talked about why America needs change
Fundraised with voters
Key policy: pro-life, conservatism, change, Obamacare repeal, infrastructure

Operations:
  • Emphasized a grassroots campaign across every state, and the importance of knocking door-to-door and calling voters, getting the word out
  • Set up ground operations in every state, briefed staff on the campaign
  • Set up structural operations to deal with influx of volunteers across multiple states, including South Carolina, Florida, and Iowa
  • Emphasized to staff to reach out to everyone, no matter their political affiliation
  • Told staff to deliver Jindal's message of change to as many people as possible


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 13, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Carolla campaign on promising to cut taxes
It airs in all 50 states
I’m Adam Carolla and I approve this message
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Obama:"I didn't raise taxes once. I lowered taxes over the last two years,"

Voiceover:No Mr President you did raise them.
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As soon as took office he signed legislation raising taxes on cigarettes and other tobacco products.

He also in that same year signed the health care law which includes taxes on indoor tanning that went into effect last year.

And that’s just the start.  The new health care law also includes a tax on people who decide not to have health insurance, as an incentive for them to get coverage. The tax phases in gradually, starting in 2014. By 2016, the tax would be $695 per uninsured person up to a maximum of three times that amount, or $2,085.

And that’s one of the reasons we need to repeal Obamacare

More significantly, the health care law includes new taxes starting in 2013. Individuals who make more than $20,000 and couples that make more than $20,000 will see additional Medicare taxes of 0.9 percent. They will also, for the first time, have to pay Medicare taxes on their investment income at a 3.8 percent rate.

For shame Mr President.

However Adam Carolla will not raise taxes ()

He will make our tax code the simplest in the modern world.  No more unnecessary and hidden fees and taxes on business and the American people. He will abolish the IRS and make your tax sheets short and simple

That is just another reason why Carolla is a Different Kind Of Republican.

This ad has been paid for by Americans for Carolla.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 13, 2018, 06:34:22 PM
Debate Answers

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1.- Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

You know, as President, I'd be doing a hell of a lot more than address misgivings about Iran. I'd tell them a simple measure- there is no way that you're getting your hands on nuclear weapons. As President I'd use every single tool, and power of the Presidency to stop getting nuclear weapons; including military force. I know it's an awesome power, and a great responsibility for any President to use military force; but this is matter of National Security for the US.

If Iran gets nuclear weapons we know that they're then going to try and dominate the region even more; they're going to attack our allies in the region, they're going to try and use the Revolutionary Guards to spread their influence, they're going to pose a major risk to our Energy needs from the region. But that's not the most important threat; the biggest threat is by far, the threat that Iran pose to Israel.

Iran is the greatest threat to Israels existence; their Supreme Leader has said multiple times that Israel should be destroyed. We can't let Iran get their hands on nuclear weapons, and carry out another Holocaust. No way.  As commander-in-chief I won't be afraid to use military action to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

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2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?

You know, time and time again, the Unions, and their leaders, in this country have been sat in the road, firmly blocking any meaningful attempt at reform on a whole host of issues. They don't care about the issue of unemployment, they don't care that our economy is slowing down; all they care about is themselves.

I support right-to-work laws; I think it's a massive erosion of freedom of association to force people to join unions when workers frankly don't want to.

It's easy though to stand up on this stage, and talk about what you would do. But I'm the only person running who's fought one the most powerful unions, the New Jersey's Teachers Union; and won. They spend over $3 million trying to defeat me in 2009, they even prayed for my death at one stag (laughs) because they knew, when I became Governor I was gonna fight their leaders, and force them to make a fair contribution to their unfunded pension system. And it worked; when you stand up to the bullies that run these unions they back down. 

But look, we need to make a distinction here, my mum was a card carrying union member. There's lots of hard working people out there who've been let down by their union leaders; we've known since Bobby Kennedy that the union leaders have not been well behaved, and frankly now is the time for serious, long term reform of our unions. Just like the politicians in Washington, the union kingpins have been letting down the people they're suppose to be protecting.

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To Governor Christie: Governor, a particularly harsh attack by a fellow candidate charged you with being, and I quote, "backed up by the same corrupt Washington establishment". Which brings me to my queston, should voters consider your an establishment or anti-establishment candidate?

You know, when you've taken on almost every single democratic special interest, when you've had the sitting President come and campaign against you, and when you've had millions spend against you in negative ads, and you still win, as I did in 2009, you get a right to call yourself anti-establishment.

When you've prosecuted over 130 corrupt politicians from both parties, and put them behind bars, I think that makes you anti-establishment. But it's not enough for me to just stand here, and say 'I'm against the corrupt establishment' cause you know, no-one is going to stand up here and say they support the corruption, the failure and the decay we've seen in Washington.

The big issue to me is establishment thinking; harmful ideas, and policies dominate our politics, and no-one fixes them. To take just one issue; look at our tax code. I think I stand out from the establishment. I think we should go much further in making the tax system fairer, and simpler to get the economy booming; I want to get rid of the loopholes that allow jobs to be shipped overseas, I want to get rid of payroll tax for people aged less than 22, and older than 62, to help get them back to work, and I want to have three lower, rates of tax. We're not going to fix our broken tax code if we just send another bland politician to the White House.

I think the one thing that the folks at home should remember is that it's not enough to just vote for whoever sounds most impressive up here; it's about who's got a record to back up their rhetoric. In New Jersey, successive Governors, both Republican, and Democrat, had failed to take on the big, vested interests in the state. But when I was elected in 2009 I took them on; the Teachers Unions, the Democratic dominated Assembly, the increasingly out of control Supreme Court, I took them on, told them enough was enough, and we've managed to steer New Jersey around, out of the darkness of the Obama-Clinton Economy.

I'm the only candidate who has fought the establishment in their own state, and I'm the only one who will fight it, and whip Washington into shape. I'll repeal Obamacare, and replace it with a market orientated, state lead replacement, I'll sit the leaders of both parties down and begin to get rid of our out of control deficit. In my entire time as Governor, and as a U.S Attorney, I've stood up when the establishment have been wrong, and by god, I look forward to doing that as President.

Reply to Congressman Upton.



Unions, are not a fundamental good, or bad. We need to let the free market it take it's course and I don't think laws like Right to Work or Taft-Hartley are the answer to the free markets problems, but I think we need to work towards a future, I dont think we should break the people that built the American middle class. Unions helped build my home state and our country, Caesar Chavez is one of my heros and he helped build hispanic farmworkers and other migrant workers, into a force to be feared they did not settle things with violence, or intimidation but with cooperation. Why can't we Republicans and Democrats come together and repeal Taft-Hartley.



Congressman, are you seriously advocating getting rid of Taft-Hartley? Do you have any idea how dangerous that is?

It's Taft-Hartley that allows the President to designate a strike a a National Emergency, and which prohibits federal workers from striking. When President Reagan sacked the Air Traffic Controllers for illegally striking, that was done under the terms of Taft-Hartley. I don't know about you congressman, but as President I won't let any union dictate, or undermine the National Security of the United States.

Closing Statement

The topics that we've talked about tonight have all come back to one theme; who can stand up and protect America's interests, both home and abroad? Whether it's standing up, and stopping Iran's suicidal attempts to get weapons of Mass Destruction, or whether it's standing up to the Union kingpins, who block reform, it's clear that we need someone who can stand up for America.

As a U.S Attorney, and Governor, every morning when I woke up, I had to think about how I could keep millions of people safe. Political Campaigns shouldn't just be about who has the best speech, who has the best lines, or who you agree with the most. They should be about picking the candidate who has a plan to fix our problems both at home, and abroad, it should be about who has the record and experience at fixing these problems, and it should be about who you can trust. I'm the only candidate who has the experience to beat the Obama-Clinton Machine in 2012, and then as President, carry out the real, meaningful reforms that we need.   


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 13, 2018, 06:42:01 PM
Wesley for America: November Schedule

November 1st,2011-November 7th, 2011



”...Thank you Charleston, ya know what... I think we have a real chance of carrying West Virginia in the General. Both parties have failed you, let’s try something new! Let’s save your jobs!...”
Fly to AR

Rally in Little Rock,AR w Blanche Lincoln (Attendance: 22,334)
Rally in Hope, AR with Blanche Lincoln (Attendance: 19,001)

General Clark fundraised and went on an online fundraising blitz and relaxed with his family for the rest of the month.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 13, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
“Something New.” Advertisement:

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Two disastrous presidents standing side by side.

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Two parties that have failed the middle class.

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One candidate who cares about the people the political establishment doesn’t care about: everyone.

”I’m Wesley Clark and I approve this message.



Wesley Clark Interview with Wolf Blitzer,CNN:

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Wolf: Hello, General Clark, pleasure to have you on the show today. I’ll start you off. Why are you running for President on an Independent ticket, are you acting as a spoiler, or are you in it to win it?

Wesley: I’m gonna be honest with you Wolf, and with the country, I’ve seen an energy in this campaign that I’ve never seen before. There’s such enthusiasm behind our supporters, I’ve been all around the country and it’s honestly great. I believe the people want something they won’t get with the current political system: results. I believe our movement can win, and will win in November.

Wolf: What’s your opinion on the uh, Libya Crisis?

Wesley: Another disastrous American intervention. We shouldn’t have made the situation even worse. What I’ve seen is, that the past two presidents had little to no knowledge about foreign policy before entering the office, Clinton didn’t know much either but at least he learned a little bit. What I fear is that we’ve made the situation in Libya too unstable, and it’ll bite us back years from now.

Wolf: You’ve been endorsed by former office holders, I mean some big guys too like Chair of the President’s Intelligence Board Dan Boren, and former Secretary Cohen, what do you think about this?

Clark: Well, it’s good to know that such important figures know we need a change. I’m honored to be supported by such great people, both in their accomplishments and, both knowing them personally.

Wolf: What’s your opinion on the latest polling numbers of both the Democratic and Republican fields?

Clark: Four years ago I would have never expected that a Democrat could mess up so much, this bad. President Obama’s is at 40% in the latest Democratic Primary Poll. Such numbers haven’t been seen for an incumbent since 1980. I’m glad to know many Democrats know the length of this, and that he’s nothing but another failure. I hope to see more Democrats, and frankly, discouraged Republicans to join my campaign. We can fix this country, but I need you, the American people’s support.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 13, 2018, 07:42:00 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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New Hampshire Senate Majority Leader, and Former Congressman Jeb Bradley has today endorsed Governor Chris Christie for President. Citing Governor Christie 'Real life experience as both a U.S Attorney, and Governor' and his commitment to ''fixing America's long standing political troubles, such as the deficit, social security and tax code'', Leader Bradley said that the Governor was the 'only hope' for the party to win in 2012, and carry out real, meaningful reforms in Washington. Jeb Bradley will later campaign with Governor Christie.

Governor Mitch Daniels endorses Christie in Des Moines Rally

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It's great to be here in Des Moines Iowa. You know I said to Chris, that the one condition of me endorsing him was that we gotta do it in Iowa (crowd laughs) So don't let me down (laughs again) But really know, I know what you're wondering, what's this guy from Iowa doing here?

Well it's simple. Iowa has a historic, and vital role in picking who our great party will nominate, and this is a moment of consequential history for our nation. We had activists from our party begging to Chris, because they knew that we needed our nations best citizens to step forward. This is what America is all about, and this is why you, the great citizens of Iowa, have a choice to make.

Do you want a President who has experience keeping us safe? Do you want a President who has put terrorists behind bars? (Crowd shouts Yes_ Do you want a President who knows how to balance a budget {Yes) Do you want a President who can fight the union kingpins, and get a fair deal for all working people? (Yes)

I knew you won't let me down Iowa. This is a historic moment for our nation. And we need a historic man. We can't let the Democrats, whether it's Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama or heck, even Russ Feingold (boos) keep their hands on the steering wheel when they're crashing our economy into a ditch. We need Chris Christie as our next President. We need a fighter in Washington.


Christie: 'Alito is my model of a Justice.'' Sioux City, Iowa. Town Hall.
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'You know I hope the court is going to strike down Obamacare. The law is unconstitutional, and it's bad for America. You can't force people to buy health insurance, you can't bind their hands like this. It's everything that is wrong with Washington.

But you know what, I know that you folks don't need reminding how important the Supreme Court is. It's the longest legacy a President has. President Obama has already got two of his choices through; he won in 2008, and he had a super-majority in the Senate. But we can change that in 2012.

People always ask me who my model Justice is; it's simple. It's Justice Alito. He's got a sensible, limited view of governmental power. He's upheld the right for an individual to own a firearm. He's protected pro-life policies, and he's been a much needed voice on the court. If I'm asked to select a Justice, you bet I'm going to be appointing someone in the mould of Alito.

And you can trust me on that; in New Jersey when an arch-liberal was up for re-nomination, I rejected it. I didn't care what the Democrats, or the papers said. The court was out of control, and had become a rubber stamp for the Democrats. So I stood up. I'll continue to stand up for limited Government as President, believe me.



Christie Tax Reform Speech: ''Let's Fight for Fairer Taxes''

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(Extracts from speech) For too long politicians in Washington have been afraid to tackle the broken tax code that has stifled growth, suppressed individuals, and smothered our economy. We need an ambitious plan to truly reform our tax system to make it fairer, simpler and lower for all citizens.

My plan would be simple. I want to reform the tax code to encourage growth, and to get our economy booming again. Now before I start, I know. Speaking up here is the easy part; but I've done it in New Jersey. Not only did I walk away when the Democrats tried to make me sign tax increases, but I then passed a budget without a single tax increase, and capped property tax rises.
 I've walked the walk; so please, listen for the next 20 minutes, as I talk the talk, and tell you about my plan to get our tax system working again.

My first action would be to cut down the tax brackets to three easier, simpler brackets-the highest at 25%, then 14% and then 8% for those earning the least. I'd then cut the corporate rate to 25% to allow America to attract the best and the brightest businesses in the the world, and to get more high quality jobs in America. I'd get rid of payroll tax for those under the age of 22, or over the age of 62 to get them back into the Labour market, and I'd get rid of the tax loopholes that allow companies to profit from shipping jobs overseas. Finally, I'd scrap the estate tax, so that politicians in
Washington, no longer use the success as a slush fund for their out of control spending. We need to use our tax system to encourage the creation high quality jobs; that's the American way of getting out of economic hardship. We fight, and we pull our-self back up.

My tax plan allows for America to do this. It's time to fight, and get our economy back into gear.

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Daniels joins Christie in New Hampshire, touts tax plan

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I know why you're all cheering. You loved the Governors speech as much as I did. (laughs)

I'm being serious, a lot of folk in Washington D.C just don't understand how important taxes are to slowing down our economy. Whether it's the small business owner being crippled by Obamacare's employee mandate, or the the young kid being told he can't work fulltime because it costs too much, it effects people's lives. In Washington D.C it's just a spreadsheet; but when you've been a Governor like me, and Chris you see it everyday.

It's why it's vital that you all go and out, and support Chris in the Primary. I was in Iowa last week, and I told them that they had the a historic task; and that applies to you as well in New Hampshire. You're gonna pick our nominee, and this country needs Chris Christie to unify our party, to defeat whoever the Democrats throw at us, and then to fix the mess in Washington. No other candidate can do, no other candidate has the skills, the experience or the fight in them to do this job. Our hope is Chris Christie.   



Mary Pat jumps on the campaign trail. Des Moines, Iowa.

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You know I often describe Chris as a recovering lawyer. Do we have any in the room? (crowd laughs) Well you'll know it means that sometimes you have to remind them to stop talking. I don't think I'm gonna win that war with Chris, but tonight I'm gonna speak for a bit instead of him.

It was so moving to meet before this event, some of the folks who flew from Iowa, in the summer to urge Chris to run for President. It was just so moving, because to me, it's about what America is all about. When our country is facing troubles like this, we need citizens to step forward. It's a proud tradition; a gangly lawyer stepped forward to save our nation during the civil war, a former General helped protect us at the height of the Cold War, and as we all know- a charismatic actor saved our nation from ruin, defeated communism and inspired a generation of conservatism activism. This is the best of America, when we stand up, regardless of party, regardless of ideology and say enough is enough. We want change, we want someone who'll fight and we want someone to believe in. That man is my husband, the man I've seen get up every day to fight for all us, and the man who can lift this country out of it's despair- Chris Christie.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 13, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Campaign Ad- 'Citizens'. Airs in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada.

(Footage of Mary Pat Christie talking at a town hall)

When Americans have faced their darkest hour in the past, they haven't looked to the same old politicians from Washington to fix it. They've looked to heroic individuals to lead us; a General lead our nation out of the ashes, a lanky lawyer brought our nation together when it was more divided than ever, the man who defeated the Nazis helped protect America from the dangers of communism, and a charismatic actor from California inspired a generation with his hopeful vision of conservative reform.

My husband stepped forward after so many of you came to us, and told him to run. He's not running because of some long hold ambition, or some burning desire for fame and fortune. He's running because he knows that he's the best for the job. I've seen him get up every morning in New Jersey to fight for ordinary Americans. Let him do from the White House. Join our fight to save America's future.

If you agree with Mary Pat, please join our fight. I'm Chris Christie and I endorse this message.
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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 13, 2018, 08:06:54 PM
(Narrator) For too long Washington politicians have been too scared to fix our tax code. But that ends today.

Chris Christie is running for President with the bold, brave plan to fix our broken tax system.

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He'll cut all rates of income tax, to give every American a pay-rise.

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He'll repeal Obamacare's job-killing mandates.

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He'll gut the estate tax to stop Washington's out of Control Spending.

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And he'll stop tax loopholes that let American companies shift your jobs overseas.

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Isn't it great to finally have someone who can fix our tax code, and get high quality jobs back to America?

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I'm Chris Christie and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 13, 2018, 08:37:36 PM
Carolla’s final campaign update

Carolla returned from campaign to have Thanksgiving with his family back in Los Angeles.

He then campagined return to California on November 30 to campaign on foreign policy.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 13, 2018, 10:15:55 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #2: A Plan For Working Families will air in Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, Michigan, New York, and Ohio.

Hillary Clinton Ad #3: Ready for the Job will air in Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, Michigan, New York, and Arizona.

Hillary Clinton Ad #4
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene begins with various clips of Hillary Clinton as First Lady -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Hillary Clinton was more than just a First Lady. She was considered by many to be a co-President with her husband. During their eight years in office, Hillary championed human rights, the environment, and children's healthcare. Despite being in a normally ceremonial office, Hillary was fighting for the American people.

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- Scene shifts to various clips of Hillary Clinton as a Senator -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Hillary Clinton has been more than just your average Senator. She's been a leading voice in the Senate on a variety of issue. More than 70 bills and resolutions she co-sponsored were signed into law, many of them occurring under a Republican President. As a Senator, she's fought for the rebuilding of New York City after September 11th, increasing broadband internet access for rural communities, and protecting healthcare for our veterans. While serving as a Senator for the State of New York, Hillary has been fighting for the American people.

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- Scene shifts to various clips of Hillary Clinton campaigning for President -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Hillary Clinton isn't a candidate of empty rhetoric. She has a real plan to bring back American jobs and increase consumer confidence. She has a real plan to protect Appalachian jobs while moving to a green economy. She has a real plan to make sure everyone can see a doctor when they're sick. Before a single vote has even been cast, Hillary is ready to continue her fight for the American people.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 12:49:55 AM
In the News:

President Obama: "I shall not seek a second term."

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The news of a major televised broadcast from the White House surprised many, and led to significant speculation as to what the announcement was. With the foreign situation growing more unpredictable after the past events in Libya and faced with a bruising primary campaign on his own party many wondered what announcement would Obama make, last minute theories ranging from an update on the search for Obama Bin Laden to a possible and updated White House strategy regarding Libya or Iraq. But as soon as President Obama began to speak, it was plain and evident that something historic was about to happen. While seemingly tired, the President was on a high note of eloquence on his address and with a more relaxed look on his face, calmly explaining what he saw as the achievements of his Presidency while recognizing some areas in which progress had not been as fast as desired.

President Obama finally cited the troubling economic and global situation and the rising infighting on his party, referencing some of the conspiracy theories issued by one of the Democratic candidates, and stressing that a divided party would never be able to "deliver on the change America elected us to deliver". His speech culminated with what many saw as a invocation of the famous LBJ speech in 1968, with Obama striking a calm tone while uttering the words "therefore, I shall not seek nor accept the nomination of the Democratic Party for another term as your President". Amidst the silence of the White House staff Obama finished his words by invoking the importance of his party to remain together and united in the months to come, and his intention to be fully active and free from partisan politics in the remainder of his term.

The address while shocking to the nation was well received by many, polling showing a rise in the President's numbers in the aftermath. While some of the more vocal elements in the right-wing talk shows wasted no time to imply a "corrupt bargain" had been struck by the President and Mrs. Clinton, or that Obama had left the race to prevent a scandal of sorts from erupting, it appeared most Americans seemed to accept some of the President's arguments, or at least felt the time was right for something different. In the immediate hours after the President's speech it became clear Senator Clinton had suddenly become the overwhelming favorite to win the nomination, although speculation began on which Democrats might jump into the primaries at the last moment.

In the meantime, the first poll after the President's announcement showed "Generic Democrat" on the rise against Generic Republican, although it is unclear whether this is just a temporary bump:

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 46%
Generic Democrat: 43%
Wesley Clark: 6%
Undecided: 6%

Romney to drop out due to Ann Romney's ill health

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The President's decision not to run for a second term was matched in a Republican field by a sudden change that also altered the dynamics in the most radical way: Governor Mitt Romney was leaving the race. A few days before Obama's announcement Ann Romney's health had suddenly begun to take a turn for the worse, her husband deciding to take a few days off the campaign trail to be with his wife. Despite Mrs. Romney's insistence that her husband ought to return to the campaign, the doctors were soon clear that Mrs. Romney's multiple sclerosis had worsened and would require some substantial treatment. While she and some members of the Governor's family and staff made attempts to persuade Romney that he had a duty to stay in the race, Romney saw differently.

While the official statement is expected to be delivered soon, a spokesman for the Romney campaign delivered a written statement that confirmed that Mitt Romney was no longer running for the Republican nomination, having made up his mind to stay with his wife in such troubled times. The announcement left the GOP stunned, having spent several months trying to come to terms with the idea of Romney as the "inevitable nominee", the race was left fully open less than two months from the Iowa caucuses. Many predicted in the aftermath that such events would possibly leave Governors Christie and Jindal as the likely new frontrunners for the nomination, but with such a volatile scenario it was agreed virtually everything could happen.

And, of course, some didn't discount the scenario of a "White Knight" attempting a late bid for the nomination.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 14, 2018, 05:55:02 AM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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Statement on Mitt Romney, and Barack Obama withdrawal.

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Thank you for coming out today. I'd like to start with a simple message for Governor Romney and Anne.. thank you for your service, and I'd like you to know that me, Mary Pat and everyone in this campaign is praying for Anne's good health. I'm not going to stand up here, and say that me and Mitt were best friends. We exchange sharp views as you do on campaigns, and we both gave as good as we got. But that doesn't matter; what matters is that Mitt, and Anne spend as much time as possible getting through this difficult time.

It's been a reminder to me, and May Pat that no-matter what happens in a town hall, how well a speech goes, or how your poll numbers look, life goes on. Governor Romney is a dedicated public service, and I know that he will continue to serve, and fight for the causes that he believes in.

I'd like to extent the same thoughts to President Obama. The Presidency can be a tough, lonely place, and regardless of what's happened since 2009, I know that everyone, republican or Democrat was moved by Barack's 2008 campaign, and by the historic importance of him becoming our first African-American President. It's possible in politics to say, look I disagree with you, I think you're making the wrong decisions but I know that you're doing it for the right reasons. We need to remember that whilst we all have different routes, we all want the same thing: a better America for our children.
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Governor Barbour: 'We need unity. I know Chris Christie can deliver that.''

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Look, it's been a hard couple of days for our country. The last time a President didn't seek re-election was in 1968, and we know that was one of the worst years our nation has ever faced.
It's a troubling time for our country. I expect Senator Clinton will get the nomination; and you know Senator Clinton is certainly headstrong, but can she bring our country together? Can you she reach out to folks in Iowa, and Georgia? I don't think so.

I think frankly we need a leader who can bring us together. A leader who can work across party lines, whilst keeping their principles. You know there's a reasons a lot of citizens stood up, and drafted Governor Christie, because they knew America needs someone who can unify us. Only Chris has the strength, and the fight to do that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 14, 2018, 09:46:39 AM
Statement from Carolla campaign on Ann Romney’s health

While me and Govenor Romney have our differences. I will put that aside and say to him sorry for what is happening to you.

I wish the best of luck to you and our wife who we hope gets better.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 10:27:08 AM
Phil Bredesen state on President Obama dropping out

Former Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen would like to thank President Obama for knowing when it is time to step down and let another take his place. The job of the presidency is a difficult one and it must be difficult to both do the job and campaign in the primary and so the decision must've taken some thought. Mr. Bredesen wishes to offer President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama to his house on Christmas to have dinner with Anne and Benjamin as well as Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Chelsea and Marc for Christmas dinner as a way to show that no bad blood will exist between them.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 10:43:36 AM
Bredesen Campaign ad "Bredesen for me" to air in all 50 states for 2 months

Copyright for the idea goes to the Kennedy 1960 campaign ad 'JFK FOR President'

Image of Bredesen

Do you want a man for president who really knows the truth?

Image of Tennessee prospering

Do you want a man who helped a state prosper during a recession?

Bredesen being reasonable with budget headline

Do you want a man for president who knows what is right?

Well it's up to you

it's up to you

it's strictly up to you

but for me it's Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bre-de-sen for  me!

Bredesen

Bredesen

Bredesen

Bredesen

Image of HealthAmerica corp.

Do you want a man for president who won't take salaries

Bredesen shown to be free of past scandals unlike his predeccessors

Do you want a man for president who is clean of any wrong?

Show a picture of many tenneseans applauding Bredesen's job

Do you want a man who truly knows how to lead?

Well, it's up to you,

it's up to you,

it's strictly up to you

But it's Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen, Bredesen,, Bre-de-sen for me!

Bredesen

Bredesen

Bredesen

Bredesen

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I'm Phil Bredesen and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DFL on January 14, 2018, 11:48:02 AM
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Boston, Massachusetts

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”...I still can’t believe I’ve had the great honor of running for the highest position in the best country on earth — just remembering that reminds me of how lucky I am each day. Now, though, I have an even more important job — making sure my wife and the love of my life is ok. Believe it or not Ann didn’t want me to drop out, she told me “Mitt, don’t leave that race!” (chuckles to himself), but in the Romney family, family comes first, no questions asked. I hope that like us, you’ll keep Ann in your prayers, and like us you’ll be keeping a close watch on this race.

It’s been a great privilege to have met so many people across this wonderful nation, and to have seen the hope that still lies deep within all of us.

Even after these last few years, I still believe in America. I hope you do too.

God Bless you all, goodnight.”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 14, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
(OMG I forget to write this)
Carolla debate closer

Before I sign off for the night I want you Amercia to think of me. Not as the man who hosts the Adam Carolla Show. Not as the man on Crank Yankers or on the Man Show. And definitely not as the man who voiced Spanky Ham on Drawn Together. 

I want you to think of me as just another American who wants real change to this country and wants government to be smallest as it can be.  A Amercian that is just like you. A Amercian that wants a balanced budget so we don’t spend this country to death, A Amercian that wants to lead this country towards peace and strength, A Amercian who wants affordable healthcare and a Amercian who wants his country to be the best place to go to and work in and be free.

Thank you all.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 14, 2018, 05:54:34 PM
Walter Jones Debate Responses

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1.- Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

Nuclear weapons are a scourge on humanity. In the wrong hands, they would devastate entire continents and wipe out millions in a matter of seconds. It's up to us to make sure that bad actors around the world aren't able to develop their own nuclear programs unchecked. Iran has that capability to unleash great harm. Think about this: Even if the Iranian government were to never deploy their nuclear arsenals, what if they happened to sell off their supply to rogue terrorists, keeping up with their reputation as the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East? That could be a catastrophe in the making like the world has never seen before. We absolutely must hold Iran's feet to the fire and keep them accountable.

With that said, the United States shouldn't be making any rash decisions either with respect to Iran. War is the last option for dealing with this and should always be. A preemptive strike would affect millions of innocent civilians and keep us in the Middle East for decades longer. So, I must sharply disagree with my fellow Republicans on the stage who beat the war drum. As President, I would bolster military sanctions on the Iranian regime, and I would use any platform we have to unite the world around one message: a nuclear Iran is unacceptable. We also can't rule out opening up negotiations with Iran, under the conditions that the United States comes to the door with strict conditions and there will be consequences if they break any deal. There is a chance, no matter how small, that we can find a breakthrough first before we explore any other options.

Ronald Reagan once said, "trust, but verify." This is how he handled the Soviet Union, and it paid off. That will be my approach as President as well.


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2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?

I think we can all agree here that the excesses of big unions have to be held accountable for. They can't just expect to survive off of workers' dues without doing anything in return. But we should never forget that labor unions played a big role in creating the middle class we have today. They've helped men and women, Democrats and Republicans, whites and blacks throughout this country. There is a balance to be found between giving unions the keys to the city and choking them off from representing workers, which I fear right-to-work could do.

I stand with great Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower, who understood the importance of unions in society. Heck, even Reagan once headed a major union. People have the right to come together and achieve common goals. We do it all the time in government here, and people do it in everyday life. The Republican Party should be known as a workers' party again if we want to keep the confidence of the American people, many of whom think Republicans only stand for big business. This is one thing I hope to change with my campaign.


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6.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you have been noted as one of the strongest critics of the percieved frontrunners at this point, leading many to wonder if, should you become the nominee, you would be able to lead a united party. Why do you think you could unite Republicans?

This is a great question, and I'm glad you asked.

Whoever the Republican nominee will be, they'll have to represent the voices and opinions of millions of Americans. There is a wide range of views within our party, and the nominee must respect that and listen to them as well. What makes us Republicans, though, is that we all share some common values: the importance of liberty, the sanctity of life, and a strong national defense. Whatever our disagreements are, I'm sure we can all agree with those on this stage. Even those I have criticized, like Governor Christie, are still good family men in my eyes, and our disagreements are political. The nature of politics is coalition-building by definition. Republicans can work with Democrats on certain things, and vice versa.

Throughout my own political career, I have always stressed the need for the Republican Party to be more inclusive. That means bringing in people from different backgrounds, with different viewpoints, but who all can unite around the idea of a great America. When I have voiced my disagreements with the frontrunners on the debate stage, I aim to provide a voice for many Americans when they might not otherwise have that chance. As your nominee, it will be my responsibility to bring all of these voices together. No matter what, we can all agree that the path promoted by Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden is what we're standing against.

I am a conservative and proud of it. I don't hide who I am. However, the one thing I have always been credited with is my ability to reach out and find common ground with people.


Response to Governor Christie:

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You know, when you've taken on almost every single democratic special interest, when you've had the sitting President come and campaign against you, and when you've had millions spend against you in negative ads, and you still win, as I did in 2009, you get a right to call yourself anti-establishment.

When you've prosecuted over 130 corrupt politicians from both parties, and put them behind bars, I think that makes you anti-establishment. But it's not enough for me to just stand here, and say 'I'm against the corrupt establishment' cause you know, no-one is going to stand up here and say they support the corruption, the failure and the decay we've seen in Washington.

The big issue to me is establishment thinking; harmful ideas, and policies dominate our politics, and no-one fixes them. To take just one issue; look at our tax code. I think I stand out from the establishment. I think we should go much further in making the tax system fairer, and simpler to get the economy booming; I want to get rid of the loopholes that allow jobs to be shipped overseas, I want to get rid of payroll tax for people aged less than 22, and older than 62, to help get them back to work, and I want to have three lower, rates of tax. We're not going to fix our broken tax code if we just send another bland politician to the White House.

I think the one thing that the folks at home should remember is that it's not enough to just vote for whoever sounds most impressive up here; it's about who's got a record to back up their rhetoric. In New Jersey, successive Governors, both Republican, and Democrat, had failed to take on the big, vested interests in the state. But when I was elected in 2009 I took them on; the Teachers Unions, the Democratic dominated Assembly, the increasingly out of control Supreme Court, I took them on, told them enough was enough, and we've managed to steer New Jersey around, out of the darkness of the Obama-Clinton Economy.

I'm the only candidate who has fought the establishment in their own state, and I'm the only one who will fight it, and whip Washington into shape. I'll repeal Obamacare, and replace it with a market orientated, state lead replacement, I'll sit the leaders of both parties down and begin to get rid of our out of control deficit. In my entire time as Governor, and as a U.S Attorney, I've stood up when the establishment have been wrong, and by god, I look forward to doing that as President.

You know, Governor, you were the establishment candidate for Governor in the primary. The grassroots choice was Steve Lonegan. I'm not saying you didn't work hard to pull off your victory, but those are just the facts. What's also true is that you first were reluctant to run for President. It took people like George W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, and a number of big donors to convince you to run. That isn't really a record of working outside the system.

Meanwhile, I have had hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown at me in primary challenges by establishment candidates. Why? Because I dare to speak out and challenge the Washington consensus. I don't hide my record, and I'm quite proud of it, in fact. The people of my district know that I have always stood up for them instead of for the party, and I'll do the same for the nation.


Closing statement:

Who's got your back these days? It isn't the same old Washington politicians who promise you one thing today and ignore you tomorrow. These people will always be entrenched in the corrupt Washington system. We don't have to stick with that, though. I have had a long record of fighting against Washington and for the American people. My conservative values were instilled in me from a young age, and I know the plight of the average American who's lost all hope in politics. It's time we get people to be hopeful again. I'm Walter Jones, and I'm running for President to speak for you in the White House. If you elect me, I'll spend every waking moment defending American principles here and around the world. Join me, join my campaign, and join this political revolution. Thank you all.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 14, 2018, 06:17:41 PM
Walter Jones Schedule: November 1-30

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November 1-8: Town halls and meet and greets in New Hampshire; rallies in Concord, Keene, and Rochester; targeting former Romney supporters on issues such as abortion, immigration, and trade; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters to cross over; massive ramping up of campaign HQ; outreach to pro-life and veterans groups statewide; voter registration drive.

November 9-17: Town halls and meet and greets in Iowa; rallies in Ames, Cedar Rapids, and Des Moines; targeting former Romney supporters on issues such as abortion, immigration, and trade; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters to cross over; extended outreach to pro-life groups; campaign to attract college students to campaign; radio and TV interviews statewide; voter registration drive.

November 18-26: Town halls and meet and greets in South Carolina; rallies in Beaufort, Spantanburg, Florence, and Charleston; targeting former Romney supporters on issues such as abortion, immigration, and trade; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters to cross over; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; strengthening of relationships with Evangelical groups; new outreach to college students; emphasis on grassroots enthusiasm; voter registration drive.

November 27-30: Town halls and meet and greets in Nevada; rallies in Reno and Las Vegas; targeting former Romney supporters on issues such as abortion, immigration, and trade; persuading soft Trump and Palin supporters to cross over; outreach to Latino and Mormon groups statewide; campaign to attract college students; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; voter registration drive.



Walter Jones Campaign Strategy
-Present candidate as *the* populist choice in the GOP field: uncorrupted, fighting the GOP establishment
-Reiterate commitment to basic Republican beliefs of life, marriage, defense
-Intense effort to attract former Romney supporters through issues of abortion, trade, and immigration; show admiration for Governor Romney on a personal level
-Make strong efforts to attract supporters of Trump and Palin as their candidacies fade
-Strong focus on small campaign contributions, attracting grassroots enthusiasm
-Reach out to soft Paul and Carolla supporters in states where they poll poorly to Jones
-Ramp up focus on rallies on the campaign trail to attract major attention to campaign
-Build up campaign network of Evangelicals and Tea Party members nationwide to bolster standing in early primary states
-Minor radio ad buys in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada promoting Jones as champion for veterans


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on January 14, 2018, 06:24:22 PM
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Alright you bums. Yall already drove out the two decent candidates in this race, first myself, and then Obama. Your only path forward is through Phil Bredesen. If yall remember my tirade a couple of weeks ago during my campaign termination, you will recall the nasty insults I gave everyone besides Obama and I. But out of all the insults I gave, Phil Bredesen had the lightest one by far. Why, one may ask? It is simple, he stands with our conservative values, and is the biggest DINO out there. In case yall scum cannot comprehend that, it is a very berry goodly thingy okakyzies, @&$!?-; dumb@&$?$ I know what a huge favor I am doing right here, so the only thing that I ask in return is to make Perry O. Hooper Jr. a cabinet member. As for you, terrible excuses for homo sapients, dissapointing american people, the favor you can do is to vote Phil Bredesen! You already sent out the two good candidates, so there is no redemption from here, but, you can still save yourselves from total doom, but last chance, by going all in for ma boi Bredesen! Vote or die!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 14, 2018, 06:25:09 PM
Statement on Mitt Romney

While we have had our disagreements on the campaign trail, I wish Governor Romney the absolute best as he embarks on this next chapter in his life. I also offer my sincere condolences to his wife Ann, who is suffering from a terrible condition in multiple sclerosis. Anyone who has had to face a similar situation in their personal life knows the amount of grief and hardship involved, and it takes family and friends to persevere. I pray for the Romney family that they may find relief in these troubled times. May the Lord grant these fine people that opportunity.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 14, 2018, 06:27:29 PM
3rd Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher

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Debate Answers & Responses



General Questions
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1.- Iran is now at the front of the newspapers after the UN expressed misigivings about the Iranian nuclear program, warning of the potential for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. Should Iran be allowed to develop them, and what will you do as President on this issue?

First things first, We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons, and nobody up on this stage would support letting them have it.

We can't dove ourselves into another multi- trillion dollar war in taxpayer money. We can't do that with the national debt already above $10,000,000,000,000. We keep making rash decisions in Iraq and Libya. Now, we're trying to do it in Iran? I'm not going to do that again. We can't do that again.

Our foreign policy must be sustainable. The Obama Administration has made it impossible to do that with reckless spending, and the people here to support that can't bring change to our foreign policy. Any fiscal conservative would support our foreign policy spending being more sustainable.

We must ensure Iran does not create nukes or else we'll have to spend trillions. I support putting America at the top as much as the next Republican, but let's have a sensible, fiscally conservative foreign policy for once—A policy of American Exceptionalism.

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2.- As unemployment remains close to 10 the issue of unions continues to gain relevance in domestic politics. The question is, where do you personally stand on unions, and do you support the idea of right-to-work laws?

Let's look at it from a conservative stance: Right-to-work gives workers the choice to join a union, rather than forced unionization—inherently a conservative idea. Let's look at it from a common sense stance: states with right-to-work have more disposable income per capita, greater gdp growth, and greater employment. I think the facts speak for themselves. A right-to-work policy is something this country needs to head towards economic recovery. It's not anti- union, it's just pro- freedom and pro- economic recovery, and like the other policies I support, I won't and never have turned my back on it.

Candidate Specific Questions
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8.- To Governor Fletcher: Governor, despite having served in Congress and as Governor some have noted you don't possess a record or experience on matters of foreign policy. Why should Americans trust you to be commander in chief, and what is your general philosophy on foreign poicy?

I'm glad you asked. What separates me from some of my opponents is that I served this country in the Air Force. In the Air Force, I served to stop the influence of communism in the Cold War, and I was honored to be awarded the Outstanding Unit Award among others. It was one of my major chapters of my life. I learned foreign policy first hand and how it affects the brave of our nation, and I'm proud to have served there.

As I laid out in the first question of the debate, I believe in a policy of American Exceptionalism. Let's put our nation first abroad through diplomacy, and not wasting taxpayer money abroad like Obama has been doing for the past 4 years. The great heroes of our nation deserve to not be used as tools for constant wars. The great taxpayers of this nation deserve to have their money not spent on war after war. I support putting America first abroad, but let's have a sustainable foreign policy that does not outspend it's income.

Responses & Rebuttals
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Chris Christie: You know, as President, I'd be doing a hell of a lot more than address misgivings about Iran. I'd tell them a simple measure- there is no way that you're getting your hands on nuclear weapons. As President I'd use every single tool, and power of the Presidency to stop getting nuclear weapons; including military force. I know it's an awesome power, and a great responsibility for any President to use military force; but this is matter of National Security for the US.

If Iran gets nuclear weapons we know that they're then going to try and dominate the region even more; they're going to attack our allies in the region, they're going to try and use the Revolutionary Guards to spread their influence, they're going to pose a major risk to our Energy needs from the region. But that's not the most important threat; the biggest threat is by far, the threat that Iran pose to Israel.

Iran is the greatest threat to Israels existence; their Supreme Leader has said multiple times that Israel should be destroyed. We can't let Iran get their hands on nuclear weapons, and carry out another Holocaust. No way.  As commander-in-chief I won't be afraid to use military action to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

Mr. Christie, I understand your concern. Nuclear Weapons are a menace to humanity, a great evil, however this rhetoric was used in Iraq. We found no Weapons of Mass Destruction there. We spent trillions of dollars. We lost nearly 5,000 Brave Americans, and Mr. Christie, you have never served to understand what that cost means. Now, you want us to do that again.

Your plan is the last thing America needs. When will you find it that diplomacy is stronger than bombs & bribes? As the National Debt continues to rise, your view is to keep spending and spending. It's time for a new approach—a conservative approach. It's not time for another Obama approach, Mr. Christie.


Closing Statement

As this election nears, each candidate wants to make this election more and more about themselves. It's not. This election will always be about you, the voters— the American People. Let's make this country more about you, the individual. Let's take back the future.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 14, 2018, 06:44:51 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Momentum

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This is Congressman Walter Jones.

Why have establishment Republicans spent hundreds of thousands to take me out before? Because they know I stand up for my beliefs.

I'll do what's best for you, the American people. There are no big donors or lobbyists behind this campaign. This is 100% funded by everyday Americans with a hope for a better tomorrow.

Together, we can stand up to the Washington consensus. They fear they'll no longer be in charge if their people can't get in.

They're right. We have the momentum.

I approve this message because the only good unemployment is a Washington crook without a job.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 14, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
Hillary Clinton Press Release
November 2011

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- Campaign Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri -

It takes a big person to recognize that they are not the best person for a job and to stand aside. Senator Clinton, former President Clinton, and the entire Clinton Campaign commend President Obama for withdrawing from the Democratic nomination for President out of the best interest of the country and the Democratic Party. Senator Clinton especially commended President Obama for recognizing that "there are still great challenges facing the American people" and that running for President would "unfairly distract from addressing those challenges". Former President Clinton, being one of the few people who can actually say they understand what President Obama is going through, echoed his wife's remarks.

In his address to the nation, President Obama also cited the state of the Democratic Party as part of his reason for stepping out of the race. Chief among the problems for the Democratic Party is that fact that a candidate for President of the United States spewed vile, right-wing conspiracy theories as campaign rhetoric. When challenged on his conspiracy theories, the candidate alleged that his campaign had been infultrated and corrupted by agents of the far-right website Breitbart News. While the credibility of Mr. Bredesen's claims is well in question, the very fact that a candidate for the most powerful office in the world would say such things in any capacity - be it as the result of a mass conspiracy or as his own thoughts - is an insult to democracy. While Mr. Bredesen has apologized and redacted his remarks, Senator Clinton feels that such remarks have no place in American public discourse. Because of this, Senator Clinton calls on the Democratic National Committee to bar Mr. Bredesen from participating in the next debate of Democratic candidates.

Mr. Bredesen has invited himself to join the Clinton Family for Christmas. Unfortunately, the Clinton Family has had long-standing plans for the Christmas holiday and have to decline the offer.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
Bredesen Reply to Senator Clinton before debate ends

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In his closing statement, Governor Breseden said something that I found interesting. He said in 1990s, we had a centrist President and America thrived under that President. What Governor Breseden left out there, I think you'll all remember, is that that centrist President is the guy I'm married to! Maybe Governor Breseden forgot, or he just didn't want to give my family any credit. Folks, I wasn't hiding in the East Wing while my husband was in office. I had an office in the West Wing, I played a key role in vetting nominees, and I crafted and advocate for several policy positions, including healthcare. When he was running in 1992, my husband's campaign promised "two for the price of one." Well, think back to the 1990s. Think about the prosperity we had. Think about the security we had. If you liked the 1990s while my husband was in office, you're going to love the 2010s if I'm in office.

Hold on for a brief moment before we end this here debate. Senator, you are sounding like you would be the next Jack Kennedy. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy. There were just as much scandals as there was prosperity during Bill's time in office and at the end, Not when Bush was elected but in the last few years your husband was in office, the prosperity stunted and then began a steady downturn into the recession that we all know and hate today. Now that I think about it, I consider myself more a Kennedite Democrat than a Clintonite Democrat now. Mrs. Clinton, were you responsible for the years that the properity of our country was stunted? As you said, it was two for the price of one in the 90s. well, by god, if the end of the 2010s with you as President happens with a major economic recession, then by god, I'm out!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 06:59:07 PM
Bredesen Campaign ob the request to kick him out of the next Democratic debate

Senator Clinton has requested that Mr. Bredesen not be allowed to appear at the next Democratic debate, Mr. Bredesen wants to remind Senator Clinton that doing so is in fact a form of censorship and thus requests that she redacts her request.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 14, 2018, 07:01:35 PM
November, 2011
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Ernie Fletcher's Statement on Mr. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama's Withdrawal
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I've had the honor to participate in the same Election as Governor Romney, and while I have questioned his consistency, I always thought he had good intentions at heart. Romney and I were close. I saw him a lot the National Governor's Association. He's a very good man. It was sad to see him leave the Governor's Office in Massachusetts. It takes a real man to end his bid for the highest office in the land to stay with his family. He and his family are in my prayers. May the Lord treat his family well.

I hope that they do well through these troubled times.

As for Obama, I'm gonna be honest. I didn't know him that well. I think he had good intents at heart, as I feel with every person who seeks the office of President. All I can tell you is he is a true American to not seek a second term for the better of the nation. I hope his future endeavors are successful.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 14, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
Bredesen Reply to Senator Clinton before debate ends

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In his closing statement, Governor Breseden said something that I found interesting. He said in 1990s, we had a centrist President and America thrived under that President. What Governor Breseden left out there, I think you'll all remember, is that that centrist President is the guy I'm married to! Maybe Governor Breseden forgot, or he just didn't want to give my family any credit. Folks, I wasn't hiding in the East Wing while my husband was in office. I had an office in the West Wing, I played a key role in vetting nominees, and I crafted and advocate for several policy positions, including healthcare. When he was running in 1992, my husband's campaign promised "two for the price of one." Well, think back to the 1990s. Think about the prosperity we had. Think about the security we had. If you liked the 1990s while my husband was in office, you're going to love the 2010s if I'm in office.

Hold on for a brief moment before we end this here debate. Senator, you are sounding like you would be the next Jack Kennedy. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy. There were just as much scandals as there was prosperity during Bill's time in office and at the end, Not when Bush was elected but in the last few years your husband was in office, the prosperity stunted and then began a steady downturn into the recession that we all know and hate today. Now that I think about it, I consider myself more a Kennedite Democrat than a Clintonite Democrat now. Mrs. Clinton, were you responsible for the years that the properity of our country was stunted? As you said, it was two for the price of one in the 90s. well, by god, if the end of the 2010s with you as President happens with a major economic recession, then by god, I'm out!

Clinton: Governor, this is a lie and you know it. The current economic recession has been caused by the reckless de-regulation of the last Republican Administration. President Clinton left office in 2001 with a budget surplus, a strong and safe nation, and a strong economy. Unemployment was just over 4%, one of its lowest points going back to the 1990s. Our country was on the cusp of an economic boom, centered around the new technologies of the Internet. My husband had his own personal shortcomings, we all know about those, but he was a hell of a President and it's disingenuous to suggest anything else.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 07:06:42 PM
Bredesen Reply to Senator Clinton before debate ends

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In his closing statement, Governor Breseden said something that I found interesting. He said in 1990s, we had a centrist President and America thrived under that President. What Governor Breseden left out there, I think you'll all remember, is that that centrist President is the guy I'm married to! Maybe Governor Breseden forgot, or he just didn't want to give my family any credit. Folks, I wasn't hiding in the East Wing while my husband was in office. I had an office in the West Wing, I played a key role in vetting nominees, and I crafted and advocate for several policy positions, including healthcare. When he was running in 1992, my husband's campaign promised "two for the price of one." Well, think back to the 1990s. Think about the prosperity we had. Think about the security we had. If you liked the 1990s while my husband was in office, you're going to love the 2010s if I'm in office.

Hold on for a brief moment before we end this here debate. Senator, you are sounding like you would be the next Jack Kennedy. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy. There were just as much scandals as there was prosperity during Bill's time in office and at the end, Not when Bush was elected but in the last few years your husband was in office, the prosperity stunted and then began a steady downturn into the recession that we all know and hate today. Now that I think about it, I consider myself more a Kennedite Democrat than a Clintonite Democrat now. Mrs. Clinton, were you responsible for the years that the properity of our country was stunted? As you said, it was two for the price of one in the 90s. well, by god, if the end of the 2010s with you as President happens with a major economic recession, then by god, I'm out!

Clinton: Governor, this is a lie and you know it. The current economic recession has been caused by the reckless de-regulation of the last Republican Administration. President Clinton left office in 2001 with a budget surplus, a strong and safe nation, and a strong economy. Unemployment was just over 4%, one of its lowest points going back to the 1990s. Our country was on the cusp of an economic boom, centered around the new technologies of the Internet. My husband had his own personal shortcomings, we all know about those, but he was a hell of a President and it's disingenuous to suggest anything else.

BREDESEN: Then why in 2000 was everything projected to get worse after him senator? It's an honest question. While Bush was the worst president in recent history, I think we all agree on that, our economy was slowly starting to fall away in that very year. sure it was a very slow decline, but still, one cannot deny the facts.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 14, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
Gov. Nathan Deal endorses Ernie Fletcher
FOX News

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I'm glad Sonny endorsed Ernie Fletcher last month because I'm about to do the same thing. Governor Ernie Fletcher has my vote. He IS the real deal, and I tell ya, he better be the next President cause it's about time we had a real deal in the White House. He likes to say he's going to win the future a lot, but that's because he IS going to win the future, and Georgia is going to be proud of it.


Gov. LePage endorses Presidential Hopeful Ernie Fletcher
FOX News

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I'd like to announce today my support for Governor Ernie Fletcher from the Great State of Maine. He is one CONSISTENT CONSERVATIVE, and above that, he's a candidate of common sense. A person of his word, and he's A PERSON FOR THE STATE OF MAINE! He's going to get out there and he's going to follow his word. He's going to win the future for all Americans.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 14, 2018, 07:40:03 PM
Wesley Clark Campaign Statement on the Obama/Romney withdrawals:

Breaking news came out recently that two front runners for their respective party nominations stepped out. President Obama’s withdrawal is for the better. He wasn’t what the country needed, and he came at the wrong time. That being said, he’s an honorable man and we wish the best for his mmm and his family going forward. The same can be said for Governor Romney, who withdrew due to his wife’s health concerns. It’s very pleasing that a man can care so much about his own family to put back his own aspirations. While General Clark disagrees with the respective mens’ policies, let’s all be decent and wish the best for them.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 09:58:03 PM
Turn Four: It's beginning to look
at lot like Christmas:
December 1st to December 25th, 2011

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In the News!

Kim Jong-Il dead at 69!
Relatively unknown son Kim Jong-Un hailed as Supreme Leader of North Korea

American troops leave Iraq
Fulfiling a campaign pledge, President Obama announces the Iraq War "is over"

Economy shows little signs of recovery
Unemployment has a slight decrease, but hovers around 9.5%

Sarah Palin drops out of GOP race!
Citing poor fundraising and numbers, Palin is the next Republican to leave the race

Rod Blagojevich declared guilty!
14 years in prison for disgraced former Governor of Illinois

1.- Turn: This turn lasts across most of December, and it's the final turn to last a whole month. After turn four is over, turn five will cover the week before the Iowa caucuses. And there's two special endorsers! The Des Moines Register will be endorsing one candidate for the GOP and the Democrats each, and the Manchester Union Leader will endorse a candidate from the GOP. Rather than merely ask for them, you are invited to send a pitch as who you should recieve these endorsements.  

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 46%
Generic Democrat: 42%
Wesley Clark: 7%
Undecided: 5%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Chris Christie: 28%
Bobby Jindal: 17%
Ron Paul: 15%
Walter Jones: 11%
Ernie Fletcher: 9%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Donald Trump: 4%
Fred Upton: 2%
Undecided: 6%

Republicans: Christie, the new Republican Frontrunner

The primary had been turned upside down, again. In most dramatic fashion, the two likely frontrunners since the beginning of the primary dropped out in different circumstances, Mitt Romney bowing out to take care of her wife due to ill health, and Sarah Palin leaving the field after what many described as an uninspiring or absent campaign. With eight remaining Republicans, the field seemed wide open as suddenly over a quarter of primary voters had to find a new candidate, and the Republican establishment panicked over what might happen afterwards. Alas, it is said that nature abhors a vacuum, and the space opened was soon filled by the new Republican frontrunner.

Having suffered his own share of blows in October, Governor Chris Christe came up fighting with all guns blazing in November, avoiding a lot of damage (despite attacks by Ron Paul or Walter Jones) and winning a debate with a memorable performance that allowed him to seize the spot of frontrunner. Appealing to Republicans of different backgrounds with his tough talking style, Christie got a substantial part of former Romney voters on board and shot his way to the top of the polls, opening leads in Iowa and New Hampshire. Behind and as his main challengers were Bobby Jindal - who leads the pack in Florida and South Carolina - and Ron Paul - now leading the chaotic polls in Nevada. Both Jindal and Paul, however, face the significant disavantage in having like-minded rivals for the conservative and the libertarian niche in Ernie Fletcher and Adam Carolla, both of whom are also on the rise.

With Donald Trump and Fred Upton still far back at the bottom of the polls, the remaining would-be challenger was Congressman Walter Jones, who has been picking up steam to overcome the 10% barrier  with his populist style. As December dawns, this month will be decisive for candidates to rise or fall under the weight of attacks, as the electorate remains incredibly volatile following the departures of Romney and Palin. While Chris Christie's lead is comparatively strong, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus stated that: "from here on, anything can happen."

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 49%
Joe Biden: 27%
Russ Feingold: 11%
Phil Bredesen: 4%
Undecided: 9%

Democrats: Clinton on the rise, can Biden or Feingold stop her?

The Democratic primary was defined this month by the sudden departure of President Obama from the race, seen as many as an admission of the ground gained by Senator Clinton and that a bruising primary contest would probably doom the President's chances at the General Election. Obama's departure suddenly redefined the dynamics of the contest as Hillary Clinton's well oiled machine shot her up to the top of the polls. She was on target now, and it remained to be seen whether Governor Bredesen and Senator Feingold could do enough to catch up before other Democrats jumped in to the race at the last moment.

With Feingold mostly inactive - preventing for now a surge from Obama supporters -, Bredesen took on the fight as the sole challenger to debate Clinton that month... and the race took a turn for the bizarre. From the revival of the Vince Foster controversy (to the joy of Limbaugh, Jones and a non-small part of FOX) to dismissing and attacking the record of the Clinton Administration (still heavily popular among most of the party), and then following up with inexplicable claims of sabotage by Breitbart (which the media source was quick to prove as false), the Bredesen campaign exploded in a wave of outrage as most donors and endorsers pulled out and many Democratic voters condemned the actions of the Bredesen campaign, pushing the Governor all the way back to 4%.

As December dawns and with one of Clinton's challengers almost crippled, all eyes are on Vice-President Joe Biden, who is expected to announce a bid for the presidency very soon. Tentative polling works to the  benefit of Senator Clinton by showing Biden on 27%, but with many undecideds and a lot of soft support for both Clinton and Biden pundits agree the race could take a dramatic turn depending on what happens in this last month before Iowa, often recognized as Clinton's weak spot.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 10:08:01 PM
GOP Average Polling:

IOWA:

Chris Christie: 25%
Ron Paul: 22%
Bobby Jindal: 17%  
Ernie Fletcher: 10%
Walter Jones: 9%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Donald Trump: 5%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 4%


NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Chris Christie: 35%
Ron Paul: 19%
Adam Carolla: 10%
Bobby Jindal: 8%
Walter Jones: 8%
Fred Upton: 6%
Donald Trump: 6%
Ernie Fletcher: 3%
Undecided: 5%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Bobby Jindal: 29%
Walter Jones: 19%
Ernie Fletcher: 16%
Chris Christie: 14%
Ron Paul: 7%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Donald Trump: 2%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%

FLORIDA:

Bobby Jindal: 27%
Chris Christie: 25%
Adam Carolla: 11%
Ron Paul: 9%
Walter Jones: 9%
Ernie Fletcher: 6%
Donald Trump: 3%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 9%

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 26%
Chris Christie: 15%
Adam Carolla: 14%
Bobby Jindal: 13%
Walter Jones: 10%
Donald Trump: 6%
Ernie Fletcher: 5%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 10%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
DEM Average Polling:

IOWA:

Hillary Clinton: 39%
Joe Biden: 30%
Russ Feingold: 21%
Phil Bredesen: 1%
Undecided: 9%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Hillary Clinton: 57%
Joe Biden: 25%
Russ Feingold: 12%
Phil Bredesen: 0%
Undecided: 6%

NEVADA:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 32%
Russ Feingold: 5%
Phil Bredesen: 3%
Undecided: 7%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Hillary Clinton: 45%
Joe Biden: 33%
Phil Bredesen: 9%
Russ Feingold: 4%
Undecided: 9%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 55%
Joe Biden: 29%
Russ Feingold: 6%
Phil Bredesen: 3%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
Endorsements from Turn Three:

Christie: Mitch Daniels, Jeb Bradley.
Fletcher: Nathan Deal, Paul LePage.
Carolla: Dr Drew, Thomas Sorwell.
Paul: FreedomWorks, Bill Weld.
Jones: Pat Buchanan, Bob Smith.
Jindal: Charles Boustany, Jennifer Carroll.
Upton: Olympia Snowe, Dick Lugar.

Clinton: Diane Feinstein, Mark Warner.

Clark: David Boren, William Cohen.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 14, 2018, 10:32:01 PM
Debate Winners:

GOP:

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The latest debate had the misfortune of having the lowest viewers so far, mostly because several candidates such as Romney, Palin, Trump and Jindal could not make it for personal reasons (or chose not to make an appearance), leaving only six to debate on the stage. Out of them, it was the common agreement that Governor Chris Christie had won the debate with an excellent performance, touching on his "tough-talking" style to appeal directly to the base and support his rise in the polls. Most of his rivals were seen as having put on a strong performance as well, although nowhere nearly as memorable as the one given by Christie. Despite not reaching the top, Jones, Fletcher, Paul and Carolla (in that order) drew benefits from the exposure, whereas Congressman Upton continues to draw negative headlines by promoting policies despised by his party's base.

DEM:

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Also a debate with low viewership, only Hillary Clinton and Phil Bredesen came to the debate stage. The early course of the debate itself was not necessarily controversial, with Clinton delivering a strong performance and Bredesen giving an acceptable performance as well. Alas, when the time came for Bredesen to attack Senator Clinton, things unraveled quickly for him. A disastrous attempt at mimicking Lloyd Bentsen's line against Dan Quayle was met with mocking laughter from the audience, and attacks on the Clinton Presidency (popular among Democrats) drew more criticism. Clinton was seen to have responded strongly, cementing the downward spiral of the Bredesen campaign and helping her shot to the top after President Obama left the race. As a result, it was almost unanimous among the pundits that Senator Hillary Clinton had scored a large victory.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 14, 2018, 10:36:49 PM
December 1, 2011

Press Release from the office of Vice President Biden

I'm sure some of you are aware that I've been considering running for President for the last two weeks. The rumors are true. Today, I filed to enter the Presidential race, to complete President Obama's unfinished legacy. We have a lot of work left to do, from taking down terrorist organizations across the world, to defending the rights of the poor underprivileged and left behind. Above all, we need to stop the dynastic attitudes that the Clinton's seem to have. I give my word as a Biden, that we will prevail, and that even if we do not, neither will Senator Clinton.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on January 14, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Phil Bredesen announces withdrawl for race

As of a few minutes ago, former Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen has announced that he is officially dropping out of the race and has endorsed Former Vice President Joe Biden to be the Democratic Nominee. At the same time, his son, Benjamin, announced that he is running for the Senate seat of the rather lukewarm popular Lamar Alexander in 2014 in order to gain some Washington experience and serve his state well well. His son has the godsend of having his father's Govenorship and mayoral record behind him without the conspiracy theories scandal that plagued his father as well. Benjamin stated that he will work across party lines to make sure that every Tennessean will get what they need with him as senator and has stated that no matter who wins the presidency, if he wins, he will be there to call out the president on the things he does wrong and the things he does right.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 15, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Joe Biden-Going to Fly Now

Vice President Biden spent most of the month of December almost exclusively in Iowa, hoping to secure a win in an early state and secure momentum. The only days he spent outside of Iowa were Christmas, which he spent in Delaware with family, and the week between Christmas and New Year's Day, which he mostly spent in New Hampshire.

Biden was happy to welcome the endorsements of his son Beau, and Secretary of State John Kerry, a sign President Obama's cabinet was falling in line behind him, and a possible prelude to an Obama endorsement (or so he hoped).  While he was less happy to welcome the endorsement of Phil Bredesen he recognized he needed the help in the South, and in Appalachia, and as such, accepted the endorsement, and encouraged Breseden to campaign for him in South Carolina, Florida and other future Southern/Appalachian states.

Biden finally proposed a series of town hall meetings with both his Democratic and Republican opponents (though he assumed that the proposal would not go anywhere, especially with his Republican rivals), two every month until the conventions.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 15, 2018, 11:29:22 AM
Carolla endorsed by Art Laffer in New Hampshire
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Good day New Hampshire!  I come here to endorse Adam Carolla. As the person who designed  Reaganomics who helped get Amercia out of the dark times of the late 70s. Which boomed the economy throughout the 80s.  I come out here through this time of Economic darkness that Adam Carolla is the best man for the economy!!  His economic plan would make President Reagan smile and want to shake his hand

He will cut taxes for everyone person and income and every business and their income.  He will cut wasteful spending enough so that this country doesn’t spend itself to death.

And I am telling you if you want to get out and save the economy go out and vote for Adam Carolla!!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 15, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
December 1 to December 25, 2011

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December 1 and December 2: Senator Clinton continues her campaign visit in Iowa. She is joined on the campaign trail by Former President Clinton and Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow. The trio travel to various farms and ranches in Benton and Tama Counties to discuss Senator Clinton's plan to support rural and agricultural communities. Senator Clinton and Senator Stabenow also hold a town hall meeting at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa after a day of meeting with students and coordinating youth turnout for the Iowa Caucus.

December 3: Senator Clinton takes a train to Chicago from Iowa. During the brief stop in Chicago, Senator Clinton holds a lunch meeting with leading African American community leaders to discuss a solution to Chicago's homicide crisis. Coming out of the meeting, Senator Clinton declares "the way to end this crisis ... is to get illegal guns off the streets and keep guns out of the hands of unstable and dangerous people." From Chicago, Senator Clinton flies to Colorado.

December 4 to December 7: In Colorado, Senator Clinton holds a press conference in Denver with Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper to accept Governor Hickenlooper's endorsement. Following the press conference, Senator Clinton and Governor Hickenlooper visit the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. At the Academy, Senator Clinton applauds the cadets for "their dedication to their country" and their "willingness to give the highest measure of devotion." Senator Clinton also tours the Qwest Communications Company office in Denver, meets with students brought to the U.S. illegally in Boulder, and holds a rally at the Two Rivers Convention Center in Grand Junction. She also does some Christmas shopping at Innisfree Poetry Bookstore in Boulder.

December 8 to December 15: Senator Clinton flies from Colorado to Nevada for another campaign swing through the Silver State. While in Nevada, Senator Clinton holds several town hall meetings across the state: in Henderson, Carson City, Elko, and Fallon. She also visits a shooting range in Elko. While at the shooting range, she stresses that her gun control policy is designed to keep "especially dangerous" guns out of the hands of "dangerous people", not to stop normal people from being able to go out shooting with their friends or hunt. Senator Clinton does not actually fire any weapons at the visit. Before leaving Nevada, Senator Clinton meets with students at Great Bason College in Elko and gives a speech there on her plan to revitalize the American economy.

December 16 to December 20: The Clinton Campaign moves from Nevada to Arizona. Early on the schedule is a visit to the U.S.-Mexico border with border control agents to "get hands-on experience with the complex issue" of illegal border crossings. She meets with leaders of the Navajo Nation to discuss the relationship between the Navajo and the Federal government, as well as visiting Dine College. Senator Clinton also gives a speech in Mesa on healthcare reform, where she applauds the "starting point" of ObamaCare but stresses "the importance of creating a more fair system that works for everyone". Her plan includes the expansion of CHIP, bringing down out-of-pocket costs, and pressuring each state to expand Medicaid access.

December 21: Senator Clinton flies from Arizona to Arkansas. Senator Clinton holds a rally at the University of Arkansas to rally centrist and conservative Democrats to her cause. She uses the rally to take a hit at Governor Bredesen, calling him "a conspiracy theorist right out of Breitbart HQ", and tying him to Vice President Biden, saying "anyone who would accept [Governor Bredesen's] endorsement is not the kind of person we need in the Oval Office."

December 22 and December 23: After the Arkansas rally, Senator Clinton flies from Arkansas to South Carolina. She and Former President Clinton tour Pelham Road Elementary School in Greenville and meet with students. Senator Clinton speaks after the tour to discuss the need for increasing funding to school districts "so that every child has a fair chance to succeed." She also meets with local Democratic Party officials and then goes door-knocking in Charleston with Democratic Party voluneers.

December 24 and December 25: Senator Clinton, former President Clinton, Chelsea, and Marc spend Christmas Eve volunteering at a soup kitchen near their Chappaqua home. They spend Christmas Day together in Chappaqua.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 15, 2018, 03:26:51 PM
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Christie: ''Attacks are gonna start flying. My job is to whack 'em away.''

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'Look I wouldn't consider myself the frontrunner, but our campaign is doing well. We've picked up support in New Hampshire, we're leading in Iowa, and you know I expect that we're gonna do very well in South Carolina. We've got a great team, we've got a lot of support from across the republican party, and I feel we're doing well.

But it's the nature of this race that people are gonna start attacking me. I've got a target on my back now; and I know that for folks running they're gonna crank up their attack machine. I'm use to it, I faced $3 million in union money in 2009, I had them attack my wife, heck, they even prayed that I die. I just hope none of my opponents have a voodoo doll (laughs)

But really my job is going to simple for the next month; I'm gonna keep holding town halls, I'm gonna keep meeting folks out there in the early states and when the attacks start I'm just gonna whack 'em away.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 15, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #4
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #5
In His Own Words, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene opens with clips of children looking at TV screens, as audio of various quotes from Joe Biden run in the background -

BIDEN (VOICE OVER): I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

BIDEN (VOICE OVER): You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking.

- Scene shifts to Biden speaking in Missouri in 2010 -

BIDEN: Stand up, Chuck, let 'em see ya.

- Scene shifts back to children looking a TV screens as audio of various quotes from Joe Biden run in the back ground -

BIDEN (VOICE OVER): This is a big f**king deal!

BIDEN (VOICE OVER): An hour late, oh give me a f**king break.

- Scene shifts to Biden campaigning in 1987, next to Neil Kinnock campaigning in 1987, playing with a few seconds difference between Kinnock and Biden -

KINNOCK: Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Why is Glenys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Was it because all our predecessors were thick?

BIDEN: ... Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I'm the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?

- Scene shifts to children, looking away from the TV and up at their parents, who look very concerned -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Is Joe Biden the example we want to set for our children?

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

Hillary Clinton Ad #6
Why Are You Running?, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene opens with generic clips of Joe Biden campaigning -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Why is Vice President Biden running for President? Is Joe Biden running to correct the problems of the Obama Administration? Is Joe Biden running to bring back jobs for the American people?

- Scene cuts to a shot of Biden's announcement press release, with the following line highlighted -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): "I give my word as a Biden, that we will prevail, and that even if we do not, neither will Senator Clinton."

- Scene cuts to black and white pictures of Joe Biden looks dejected -

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Maybe Joe Biden is running because he thinks Senator Hillary Clinton is unqualified, or that he could do a better job than her?

- Scene cuts to video of Joe Biden speaking in 2008 -

BIDEN: "Make no mistake about this. Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be Vice President of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me."

NARRATOR (VOICE OVER): Why is Joe Biden running for President? To stop Hillary Clinton, who even he recognizes is more qualified than he is.

- Scene shifts to cheery clips of Hillary Clinton campaigning -

CLINTON (VOICE OVER): I'm running for President because there are too many young girls who don't believe they can be President because they are girls. I'm running for President because there are too many people struggling to just get by. I'm running for President because our country deserves our best. I'm Hillary Clinton, and I'm running for President because I have a bold vision for our country and a record of getting things done.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

Hillary Clinton Ad #7
Why I Like Hillary, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene opens with a middle-aged woman sitting on a couch with a cup of coffee, looking at the camera -

WOMAN: This is my favorite part of the day: the kids are off to school, my husband is at work, and I've got my "me time" before my shift starts. It's a great time to just think about the day. On the news every night, they talk about the Presidential election. Romney, Christie, Feingold - I guess Biden is running now, too.

But you know what? I really like Hillary. I don't know, there's something about her. She seems honest and open, and I know she's a role model for my little girl. She's got all that experience from being First Lady and Senator, and I know who she is. She's a strong woman and I like that, but there's something more: she's a qualified woman.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 15, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
Adam Carolla in a New Hampshire Q&A town hall in Manchester

Question 1:Mr Carolla what do you think of Ron Paul and what are your differences between him you?

Carolla:I respect Congressman Paul I think he has been a fighter or Liberty in Congress throughout the years. However on some social issues he is a little bit extreme. And no this isn’t a attack on Paul I am just wondering why he has apologized for the newsletters he put out in the late 70s and early 80s and him wanting to not vote for the Civil Rights act of 1964 you know.

I strongly condemn those things.   I get called a Moderate Republican and that’s fine to me.  Now Chris Christie is no moderate. So yes I don’t mind being called a Libertarian, Populist  and Moderate Republican. Now I do put myself on some issues with the Tea Party such as the economy and immigration.

However beside those things I have no problem with the man himself.

Question 2:Mr Carolla what are your views on President Obama dropping out of the race?

Carolla:Well im kinda sad because I wanted to beat him *He laughs* But I am mostly glad cause that’s prove that he was and is a weak leader and a total failure who got nothing done in his presidency. He makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington by comparison and that is saying something.

And Biden? That’s putting salt on the wound. He’s not good enough for the Democrats to keep the White House he just sat their on the sidelines as he watched this presidency fail.

Hillary Clinton I will would be worse. She is corrupt to the bone and some of the stuff she has said sends shiver down my spines. Does anyone know of the story of the Tacoma Bridge? Well it was spouse this perfect bridge that was built in the 40s in Tacoma Washington however a few months later furious wind knock it down into millions of pieces and I feel like that’s what has happen to Obama’s Coalition.

It was spouse be this popular and nothing could stop it powerhouse but look at it now we are now seeing it crumble into millions of pieces.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 15, 2018, 07:43:01 PM
Joe Biden response to Hillary Clinton's ad, from Cedar Rapids, Iowa

It's true that I believe Senator Clinton is more qualified that I am in many respects. However, there are qualifications, and there qualifications. I have served in government service continuously since 1973, and I am one of our parties experts on foreign policy. Meanwhile Senator Clinton seeks to  continue a political dynasty best known for the scandals of Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, and Lewinskygate, Pardongate, and numerous other scandals. I have defended her in the past, but I will do so no longer!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 15, 2018, 09:28:53 PM
4th Democratic Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Democratic candidates are invited to attend. You have a right to reply to other candidates, but don't make it a ten post argument. Finally, you can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- North Korea has grabbed some attention over the death of Kim Jong-Il and the rise of his successor Kim Jong-Un, still an unknown entity to the world. What should American policy over North Korea be, and how will you handle this issue as President?

2.- Trade has taken some prominence in the Republican field as some candidates have denounced free trade or taken a more protectionist stance on the issue. So where do you stand on trade?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Senator Clinton: Senator, there has been some apparent backlash between some Democrats strongly supportive of the President which have expressed their disbelief at you as their standard-bearer. How do you reassure those who were prepared to vote for the President that you are the right candidate?

3.- To Vice President Biden: Mr. Vice-President, since your 2008 bid for the Presidency there has been a perception that you are excessively prone to malapropism and very questionable comments, particularly your comments on then Senator Obama in 2007. What would you have to say about that?

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your defeat last year in the midterms was seen as almost symbolic of the Republican victory at the election. What should voters draw from the rejection of the voters of your own state?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 15, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
4th Republican Presidential Debate:

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Note: All Republican candidates are invited to attend, and you can of course reply to other candidates briefly. You can end your performance with a closing statement. Good luck!

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General Questions:

1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?

2.- One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Governor Christie: Governor, you have now become the Republican frontrunner in the polls after the departure of Governor Romney. Clearly his voters will be important for anyone to win the primary, but at the same time you and Governor Romney traded harsh blows until his departure. Why should former Romney voters support you?

2.- To Governor Jindal: Governor, you once almost faced a recall effort in 2008 over your refusal to veto a bill that would have doubled the pay of the state legislature, a position which you were forced to recant in the span of three days. How would you say this reflects on your leadership? (Same question)

3.- To Congressman Paul: Congressman Paul, some have brought up the so called "Newsletter issue", regarding very controversial material published in newsletters published with your name and which reported you significant income. And yet it's been said these newsletters are filled with anti-Semitic and racist rhetoric, among others. How do you explain this?

4.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you're noted as being on the rise after the endorsement of Governor Palin endeared you to many Tea Party types, even if there seems to be controversy about your foreign policy views. The question is, why should Tea Party Republicans consider you to be their candidate?

5.- To Governor Fletcher: Governor, a complicated legal case appeared at the time of your first campaign for Governor regarding your first choice for running mate and whether he met residency requirements, to the point in which the spot was declared vacant before a replacement was selected and your bid almost thrown out. Was this an error in judgement on your behalf?

6.- To Mr. Carolla: Mr. Carolla, you've spoken at length in Florida about NASA and reviving the Space Program, an issue that, while strongly attractive to many, has also brought criticism from some fiscal-conservative voters due to the spending that would be necessary. So how would you pay for these proposals?

7.- To Mr. Trump: Mr. Trump, there is growing concern inside party circles that your bid for the presidency may not be as serious as once thought, and that you might drop out of the race sooner than expected. What do you say to this? (Same question)

8.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, there's growing disdain between many Republicans regarding your surprising stances on the issues as of lately, to the point in which the Tea Party will field a candidate against you in the upcoming primary. How do you explain running for President while presenting so few policies that appear to appeal to the Republican voters?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 15, 2018, 10:02:04 PM
Biden Debate answers (minus any replies to other candidates)



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1.- North Korea has grabbed some attention over the death of Kim Jong-Il and the rise of his successor Kim Jong-Un, still an unknown entity to the world. What should American policy over North Korea be, and how will you handle this issue as President?

We need to offer a carrot and stick approach to North Korea, like what Bill Clinton and George W. Bush did in Libya to persuade Mumnamar Qaddafi to abandon his program. If it means promising Kim Jong-Un we'll protect his regime for the duration of a Biden Presidency to get him to disarm his nuclear weapons, it's a trade I'm willing to make. But the stick, would be more serious than just sanctions, and would likely be an invasion of North Korea, presumably with the cooperation and military support of the Chinese Government.

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2.- Trade has taken some prominence in the Republican field as some candidates have denounced free trade or taken a more protectionist stance on the issue. So where do you stand on trade?

I'm pro-free trade in many instances, but there are certainly some trade pacts that are completely detrimental to this country. No one in Oman, Morocco, Bahrain or Jordan buys our products, largely because of our foreign policy, nor will anyone in Qatar, where we've had a proposed trade agreement since 2006. So, I'm in support of trade agreements where people are willing to buy goods from us, but I oppose trade agreements that don't favor us.

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3.- To Vice President Biden: Mr. Vice-President, since your 2008 bid for the Presidency there has been a perception that you are excessively prone to malapropism and very questionable comments, particularly your comments on then Senator Obama in 2007. What would you have to say about that?

First off, I think President Obama forgave me for anything I said about him on the campaign trail, or he never would have picked me to serve as his Vice President. Second, I think the malapropism's are part of who I am, just as Senator Clinton's corruption is part of who she is, or Governor Christie's overeating is part of who he is. I can't really change that side of myself without getting a lobotomy, and that probably would not be a good thing.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 15, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
Carolla campaign answers

1.Mr. Carolla, you've spoken at length in Florida about NASA and reviving the Space Program, an issue that, while strongly attractive to many, has also brought criticism from some fiscal-conservative voters due to the spending that would be necessary. So how would you pay for these proposals?

Carolla:Well you got to remember  President Eisenhower was able to balence the budget in 1957 and still able to create NASA and President Nixon was able to balence the budget in 1969 and we still got to the moon.  
NASA goes under the category of defense and our defense spending has seen massive cuts in 2009 and 2010 and NASA is one of those programs. To my doubters think about this.

If we get rid of spending on things that are a total waste like Common Core or the Department Of Education in general which I feel has made education worse in this country  and save money that we usually give to other countries. And if rewrite our tax code back to like what it was before the 1860s which means no IRS.
That would be enough to balence the budget and be able to get our NASA goals accomplished.

Now I have gotten complaints from both sides.  One side says we need those government programs like the Education Department, Homeland Security and the EPA cause they were responds to a growing problem in this country. And I say to that they made those problems worse!!  Have you ever gone to a airport and been checked by those Homeland agents? You can’t bring in a soda bottle made of plastic cause somewhere in the back of their minds they think it will be used as a weapon.  You can’t bring in things like soap or peanut butter. How is that a threat to security?

Then you got the EPA where they have admited that they have many times put chemicals in the air like in 2005 where 9 states reported that there was Mercury in the air and that it was the fault of the EPA.

As for the financially conservative people. No need to worry. I have well respected economists on my side. You can go to my website and you will see you got people like Thomas Sorwell and the famous and the man behind the Reagan Economic miracle Arthur Laffner on my side. He is also campaigning for my economic plans in Iowa and New Hampshire as of now



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 15, 2018, 11:16:36 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
December 2011 Debate

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Q1: North Korea has grabbed some attention over the death of Kim Jong-Il and the rise of his successor Kim Jong-Un, still an unknown entity to the world. What should American policy over North Korea be, and how will you handle this issue as President?


Clinton: North Korea is a global issue that requires a global response. We must build an international coalition to press strong sanctions on the North Korean regime, to isolate the Kim family's regime from their vast personal wealth and force Kim Jong-Un to listen to the cries of his people. The United States cannot impose strong-enough sanctions on our own, we need Russia and China to stand with us and actually work to meaningfully implement those sanctions. If economic sanctions, implemented honestly by a strong global coalition, fail to reign in the destructive desires of the Kim regime, then we need to make sure our allies in the region are safe and our interests protect. This could range from U.S. support for expanded missile shield programs in Japan and South Korea, to an increased American military presence in the region. But I hope that this can all be avoided and that Kim Jong-Un is a more reasonable man than his father and grandfather, a man that we can sit down and talk with.

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Q2: Trade has taken some prominence in the Republican field as some candidates have denounced free trade or taken a more protectionist stance on the issue. So where do you stand on trade?

Clinton: I've been an advocate of trade liberalization since my earliest days in public life. We need to be an active member of the global economic community. I think this is an unequivocal position, every economist worth their salt will tell you that free trade is good for consumers. It brings low-cost products into the market, increases competition on products, and allows each country to find what they excel at and do it well. As President, I would work with our friends in Asia and in Europe to develop new and strong trade agreements that benefit Americans, as consumers and employees. Is every free trade agreement we're currently in perfect? No. And as President I will work to fix some of the flaws in our free trade system to make it more free, more fair, and more honest.

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Candidate Question: Senator, there has been some apparent backlash between some Democrats strongly supportive of the President which have expressed their disbelief at you as their standard-bearer. How do you reassure those who were prepared to vote for the President that you are the right candidate?

Clinton: You know, at these debates a lot of the questions directed to me are about politics rather than policy. I find that very disappointing, because I think the American people are smart enough to make their choice for President of the United States off of a candidate's policies and history, rather than a rehearsed answer on a debate stage. I think that supporters of President Obama - like all voters - will take a look at my record, take a look at my campaign and my platform, and realize that I am the most qualified candidate for the job, and I have the best plan for our country. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm not going to pander my campaign to any specific sub-set of the electorate in order to pick up a few votes. I'm going to run a campaign based on the best ideas and the most qualified people.

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Closing Statement

Clinton: I'm running a campaign for President for all Americans. My campaign is based on a platform of strong ideas and bold change for our country. I think the American people have gotten to see this over these last four debates. I think the American people have seen that I have a plan to create jobs. I think the American people have seen that I have a strong foreign policy that will keep America safe. I think the American people have seen that I am ready to restor pride and confidence in the United States of America.

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Clinton response to Vice President Biden

Clinton: Mr. Vice President, I'm going to respond to a couple of things you've said tonight. Let's begin with your claim to be one of our Pary's leading foreign policy experts. I won't contend that you don't have a wealth of experience on foreign policy issues through your decades of service on the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Your statements in this debate, however, call that expertise into question. You said that you would support a deal to protect Kim Jong-Un's regime in exchange for the halting of the North Korean nuclear program. Really, Mr. Vice President? You would support a regime, against the will of the North Korean people, that has a brutal track record of starvation, famine, corruption, and oppression? Mr. Vice President, I'm open to discussions with Kim Jong-Un, but to promise his regime four-to-eight years of U.S.-backed stability is ridiculous and irresponsible. You also said you'd be willing to commit to an invasion of North Korea. That kind of warmongering is not the discourse of a foreign policy expert.

I also want to talk about your "malapropisms", as the debate moderator has kindly called them. You've said they're part of who you are, which I'll accept as legitimate, but do you have any remorse for the impact your words have? Do you regret saying some of the things you've said over the years? Do you feel bad about blatantly plagiarizing during your 1988 campaign for the Presidency? How can we be sure you won't have one of your "malapropisms" while on the phone with Vladimir Putin, or Hu Jintao, or even Kim Jong-Un, if relations are established? I also think your choice of language, Mr. Vice President, to far too crass and unprofessional for a President of the United States. Making light of the serious medical procedure that is a lobotomy? Using Governor Christie's physical appearance as a political attack? That's just shameful, petty, and wrong.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 16, 2018, 06:33:40 AM
Feingold spent the month campaigning in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and Michigan. He continued to build a base from progressive voters, attempting to forge a winning coalition in the north and build his campaign infrastructure there. He also tributed President Obama and welcomed Vice President Joe Biden into the race during a campaign stop in Detroit.

Feingold also turned his fire on major banks, giving several fiery speeches against the greed of the major banks and Wall Street and vowing to crack down on them. He also conducted rallies in New Hampshire and Ohio with his first endorsers, Senators Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown, trying to use their reputations to consolidate his left wing base. He also declared his support for Elizabeth Warren, Brown and Sanders in their Senate elections in 2012, appearing at a fundraiser for Brown in Cincinnati.

He also made several targeted appeals to younger voters, appearing at college campuses all over the early primary states, shoring up his support from there.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 16, 2018, 10:20:57 AM
Carolla debate questions part 2
1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?

Carolla:It doesn’t matter what party he was. Corruption is corruption and he get what he deserved.

However he is just one of the many people in this swamp know as Congress.  You got one of the most corruption field places with the most corrupt people perhaps in all of Amercia. 

They lie,slander and cheat their way into office and I thought Amercians would finally wake up to this when Obama gave you false hope and more the same!!

And the stupidest thing is that we keep re-elected these people and in all honestly it isn’t our entire fault. It’s something called Gettymarring and that is the reason why these people keep getting elected and no one is doing anything about it!

As President I will work on the issue of voter fraud and gettymarrying and work on a wave to get people in positions in Congress or Senate that actually work for the people and not their donors.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 16, 2018, 11:24:44 AM
Biden response to Clinton

The fact is Senator, that what we're doing in North Korea isn't working, and that a new approach is needed. I think that backing in exchange for them giving up the nuclear weapons they already have is a fair deal, especially if it means we don't have to invade them.

On the subject of my malapropisms, of course I have had remorse about some of them after the fact. The Neil Kinnock fiasco left me haunted for years. But what about some of the stuff you've done, like your kissing Suha Arafat after she accused Israel of using poison gas on Palestinians, or your your roles in Pardongate?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 16, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
Wesley for America: December Schedule



As many Americans realize, this is a time to celebrate family, and to be thankful for everything you have. This is a time to feast, to go in the living room to socialize, this is time for Americans to celebrate. Please celebrate and be safe this Christmas, and let all be peaceful. Hopefully, still be mindful of some others who aren’t as fortunate as you, and take them in into your loving arms. Thank you, and Merry Christmas.

Endorsements (from all turns):

Fmr. Sen. Blanche Lincoln (AR)
Fmr. Gen. Stanley McChrystal (KS)
Fmr. Gov. Dan Boren (OK)
Fmr. Sec. of. Def. William Cohen (ME)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Fmr. Mayor Rocky Anderson (UT)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 16, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Biden response to Clinton

The fact is Senator, that what we're doing in North Korea isn't working, and that a new approach is needed. I think that backing in exchange for them giving up the nuclear weapons they already have is a fair deal, especially if it means we don't have to invade them.

On the subject of my malapropisms, of course I have had remorse about some of them after the fact. The Neil Kinnock fiasco left me haunted for years. But what about some of the stuff you've done, like your kissing Suha Arafat after she accused Israel of using poison gas on Palestinians, or your your roles in Pardongate?

Clinton: Mr. Vice President, the United States cannot prop up brutal, oppressive dictatorships. Never. The United States has down that in the past and it is not a trend we should continue. What you're suggesting, Mr. Vice President, is that we spend our resources to protect a regime that has captured American pilots and sailors, put Americans into labor camps, and still may hold hundreds of Americans and South Koreans as POWs from the Korean War. Mr. Vice President, to support that regime would be to spit in the face of the very ideals America stands for - freedom of the press, freedom of association, freedom of movement, freedom of expression, free and fair elections - to say nothing of the sacrifices made by thousands of Americans during the Korean War.

I had hoped that Governor Bredeseen withdrawing would have ended the conspiracy theories at these debates but it seems the Vice President has taken up that cause along with Governor Bredesen's endorsement. Let's talk about the incident with Suha Arafat in 1999. In the Middle East, a subtle, gentle kiss is the equivalent of a handshake in the United States. I was an official representative of the United States of America as First Lady and I gave Suha the respect that an official representative of this country gives a foreign dignitary. There was no secret meaning of the kiss, there was no endorsement of her message. I would also like to point out, as I have many times before, that the translation I was hearing through my ear piece was far less offensive that what was reported once I was back in the country. The kiss was a sign of polite respect, not an indication that I was supportive of her remarks.

With respect to Pardongate, as the far-right calls it, this is really a conspiracy theory right out of the woodwork. My husband issued 450 pardons during his term in office. That was a lot compared to his immediate predecessor, but very normal when looking at the general trend of the use of presidential pardons. Ronald Reagan gave more than 350, and Jimmy Carter gave more than 500 in his single term. A few of the pardons drew special controversy, but the only investigation into a pardon found no wrongdoing on the part of my husband or his administration. Pardongate is just another sad attempt by a candidate for President to take me down by peddling Breitbart-esque conspiracy theories.

You know, you see this every time someone runs against me. They bring up something so minor, so inconsequential that happened 10, 20, 30 years ago, that I've been cleared of any wrongdoing in, and they sharpen their knives on it despite it having no basis. Let's have a debate on policy - on healthcare, on economy policy, on education - not a fight over these minor hiccups from decades ago that do nothing but stir the pot and get the right-wing Internet trolls fired up.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 16, 2018, 07:01:46 PM
Carolla campaign debate answers part 3
3.One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?

Carolla:Well there was some good but it was mostly bad.  The Bush Cheney years made us a even more unpopular country.  Nobody would wanted to be friends with us. All over false claims of WMDs in a country we already had invaded a decade prior and all over so that we could get their oil fields. We ran on a defend Bush campaign in 2008 and we lost big time.
Republicans lost most of our well known voter bloc and we lost states like Indiana and North Carolina and almost Missiouri and Montana.  Now if that doesn’t give a wake up call to the Republicans this election cycle and you go with someone like Christie who is another neocon then we will four more years of a Democrat in office.  We need someone new as a nominee in 2012 and I think I am that person.


Also how Bush abandoned free market principles when it came to the 2008 bailouts and did the worst possible thing and got the government involved and made it worse.

I could go on and on how bad the Bush years were and how they have destroyed the Republican Party.

And the Patriot Act I honestly gave a chance cause in all honesty I was fooled into believe he was a good president in 2001 however the Patriot Act has been awful to Amercians.  What major terrorist attack has it stopped? I will wait. We still have the DC snipers, We still had Fort Hood, We still had the LAX shooting back in 2002 just to touch on a few. As President I will in my first days revoke the Patriot Act.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 16, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
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Campaign Schedule
December 1 - 25, 2011

Schedule:
November 1-12: South Carolina
November 13-21: Iowa
November 22-23: Colorado
November 24-25: No Campaigning

South Carolina (December 1-12)
  • Rallies in Charleston, Columbia, Anderson, Myrtle Beach, Spartanburg
  • Town Halls in Greenville, Mount Pleasant, Florence, Rock Hill, Beaufort
  • "A Future to Win" Town Hall Tour in Clemson and North Charleston
  • Joined by Gov. Nathan Deal in Columbia and Charleston
  • Barnstorm in Rural South Carolina Towns
  • Fundraiser (w/ Gov. Nathan Deal & FMR Gov. Sonny Perdue) in Charleston and Columbia

Key Issues: Balancing the Budget, The Individual Mandate (how it hurts the middle class), Border Security

Iowa (December 13-21)
  • Rallies in Iowa City, Cedar Rapids, Des Moines, Cedar Falls
  • Town Halls in Dubuque, Davenport, and Waterloo
  • Joined by Gov. LePage in Urbandale
  • Endorsed by FMR Gov. Mike Huckabee at Rally in Iowa City
  • Endorsed by FMR Gov. Bill Owens at Rally in Cedar Falls
  • Fundraiser in Cedar Rapids w/ FMR Gov. Mike Huckabee
  • Barnstorm in Rural Iowa

Key Issues: Abortion (pro-life), Balancing the Budget, Border Security

Colorado (December 22-23)
  • Rally in Denver w/ FMR Gov. Bill Owens
  • Meet & Greet in Denver
  • Town Halls in Fort Collins and Aurora w/ FMR Gov. Bill Owens
  • Fundraiser in Littleton

Key Issues: Education Spending Increase, Balancing the Budget, and Governor Record (education budget increased, budget balanced, taxes cut)

December 24-25
Ernie Fletcher spent Christmas and Christmas Eve with his wife Glenna Fletcher and his family in his home state of Kentucky

Campaign Staff Operations
  • Social Media Reach-Out to Young Adults
  • Calling landlines
  • Knocking door to door, mostly in early states
  • Spreading the campaign message everywhere

Fletcher Gets Shocking Attendance in Anderson
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Well, I wasn't expecting this. Crowd Cheers How many people are out here tonight? There's people that are stuck outside! I never thought I'd have this many people out here on a cold night in Anderson. I'm sure you all will be on a news story tomorrow. Crowd Cheers This is a real movement, isn't it? It still just blows my mind how many people are out here tonight.

Well, this won't go to waste, I can tell you that right now. I guess this is what you see when South Carolina is Fletcher country! Crowd Cheers Wow... just wow. It's like a surprise Birthday Party.
(I don't intend for this to affect polling, just a campaign highlight)


FMR Gov. Bill Owens endorses Fletcher
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This is a great- looking crowd! I'm sure Iowa knows why I'm here. I'm here today to endorse Governor Fletcher. When we were both governors, I know Ernie was constantly trying to get a better education, budget, or tax code for Kentucky. He's gonna do that for everyone, and I know he has the intent to do so. Governor Fletcher is going to win the future! He's got my support.


Mike Huckabee endorses Fletcher
FOX News

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Back in '04 and '05, Fletcher and I worked on fixing our state's education, our budget, our taxes, and Fletcher did a good job. We both got elected with a Democratic State House and Senate, but we overcame that. It's more than an honor to endorse him for President. crowd cheering

In 2012, we need someone who will unite conservatives, but be able to work across party lines. Fletcher is that man. He's a leader, not a partisan hack.

Pence: Fletcher is 'a unifier for conservatives'
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Now that Romney has dropped out of the race, I think all of my support is going to keep going to Governor Fletcher. Without Romney being the frontrunner, I know one person that can definitely unite the Republican Party. That guy is Governor Fletcher. His policies have always been a conservative's policy. I have no doubt that he is a unifier for conservatives, and he'll be the best nominee for the Republican Party.

When he was in the House with me, he always had the good intent in mind. He reached across party lines while staying consistently conservative. He's the nominee we've been waiting for, and I know that he can take back the White House in November. He's got a farmer's best interest in mind, he's got a family's best interest in mind, he's got a Republican's best interest in mind, but most importantly, he has an American's best interest in mind.


Fletcher begins "A Future to Win" Tour in SC
FOX News

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Folks, our country isn't in it's best shape. With record unemployment, record low recovery, and record debt, we've got a future to win. Let's get the America for our children, our neighbors, our families, our farmers, our coal miners, and our men on the unemployment line. I'm not going to make this campaign about me because this election is about you. Let's win the future!

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 16, 2018, 07:43:24 PM
Carolla campaign update

Carolla campaigned in Iowa with experienced and well respected economists over his balence budget bill  and tax cuts to appeal to Financial conservatives early on in December.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 16, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
Carolla campaign closing comments
I don’t exaggerate when I say I see nearly 10,000 people at my rallies.  Cause I know there are a lot of people who know and want my message.

If you look at polling you would see that I pull better and beat both Biden and Clinton not just in national polling but in swing states like Ohio,Colorado,Florida and New Hampshire.  It’s pretty obvious after the fake hope we got after 2008 that Amercia shouldn’t trust a career politician for change. They should trust someone who has the guts to challenge and go toe to toe with the Washington establishment and the agenda of Obama and who ever the next Democratic nominee is.  I don’t take any money from donors or Super PACs rather I rather see donations from my website Carolla2012.com than a half a million dollar check from Goldman Sachs or Pfizer.  

So at the end of the day if you want a better Amercia then vote for Adam Carolla.  Thank you and good night



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 17, 2018, 03:19:55 AM
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General Questions:

1.- North Korea has grabbed some attention over the death of Kim Jong-Il and the rise of his successor Kim Jong-Un, still an unknown entity to the world. What should American policy over North Korea be, and how will you handle this issue as President?

Simple: Negotiate. We tried the carrot and stick approach, and it hasn't worked. We've tried beating them with a stick, and it hasn't worked. We need to never be afraid to engage these rogue nations in dialogue in order to achieve a desirable end. How would things have looked if Kennedy had employed the same strategy during the Cuban Missile Crisis as we do with North Korea?

We need to negotiate with these countries. Negotiation is often a more powerful weapon than a gun, and we should never be afraid to use it.

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2.- Trade has taken some prominence in the Republican field as some candidates have denounced free trade or taken a more protectionist stance on the issue. So where do you stand on trade?

I stand opposed to any trade agreement that harms our nation. I am opposed to NAFTA, CAFTA and the TPP. We are haemorrhaging jobs thanks to these deals. The current administration has failed to do anything to reform these deals, and that is the great failure of this administration. Our jobs need to be protected, and I have been fighting for them since day one! I will protect our jobs and only sign deals when the American worker benefits from it.

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Candidate Specific Questions:

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your defeat last year in the midterms was seen as almost symbolic of the Republican victory at the election. What should voters draw from the rejection of the voters of your own state?

My loss in 2010 was part of the voters' answer to an administration that failed them. It was part of a larger response. Voters were angry at being left behind. Granted, I did not run the best campaign I could've. I floundered quite badly at several points and ran a poor campaign. However, like I said, it was part of a larger answer.

I am attempting to address the issues of the people who voted me out of office. Let me know how I failed you, and we can work on that. So take my 2010 defeat how you will. I'm not going to tell you how to look at it.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 17, 2018, 08:51:40 AM
Carolla campaign update 2
Carolla went back to California and Nevada from December 8-15th campaigning on reforming the Patriot Act and auditing the federal Reserve.  Congressman Dana Rohrabacher would open up for Carolla in front of about almost 10,000 people on most of these rallies in which he called Adam Carolla “The next Ronald Reagan”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 17, 2018, 02:08:38 PM
Carolla campaigns in Iowa on bring back the Gold Standard
The Gold Standard will reduce inflation and give good competition for the dollar.  Studies show that if we bring back the Gold Standard we would reach 4% Economic growth. It will fight and defeat of raising prices on goods and services and it will help us save Social Security and Medicare. It’s not perfect however it’s better than what we got. In barring of a economic rescission or crash it will come in real handy.

Now to you young folks in the crowd. The repeal of the Gold Standard extended the Great Depression however you are never told about that in school. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 17, 2018, 05:56:47 PM
1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?
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We have widespread corruption in the United States, Im not just saying it is Democrats, or Republicans it is a factor in politics, we shouldn't be running as Democrats or Republicans, but on Merit, Im Fred Upton and I have done this this and this and that's why you're supposed vote for me. However, I would like to quote President Washington “However political parties may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.” This system ingrained into the American Political System has infected our most basic fabric something eating through at our democracy like a tumor. I am not declaring that we are a broken society which we may very well. We need to fight for reform to get lobbying to help not the Politicians, but those who really need it the American people.

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2.- One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?
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President Bush, was a good man, but he got us into needless spending drags in which we didnt need. I would like to say that we are out of Iraq, but that just isnt true yet. The way he handled 9/11 was good, but I do not agree with many of his policies President Bush inherited a Surplus and what did he do with that? He put us into a record breaking deficit that's not a lie, but President Obama hasnt handled it well either, but we need a new leap forward. Im not calling for a 2nd new deal Im calling for a 2nd square deal, one pioneered by one of the Fathers of our party Teddy Roosevelt started. Im calling for people to have equal footing in life not equal but to help the little guy fight.



__________________________________________________________________________________ 8.- To Congressman Upton: Congressman, there's growing disdain between many Republicans regarding your surprising stances on the issues as of lately, to the point in which the Tea Party will field a candidate against you in the upcoming primary. How do you explain running for President while presenting so few policies that appear to appeal to the Republican voters?
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Well, I dont give a Damn if some Republicans dont like me. It is their constitutional right to try and primary me if they believe they will defeat me then I believe the people of Southwest Michigan will vote for the right choice and that choice is Fred Upton. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 18, 2018, 12:38:36 AM
"He Served"
Ernie Fletcher's 3rd Television Ad
Aired in South Carolina, Iowa, Colorado, and Maine.

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Veteran #1: "We arrived in Vietnam in December, December 10th"
Veteran #2: "We were fighting in what was called Viet Cong. Some just called it North Vietnam."
Veteran #3: "I was there for more than a year, and by then, we had at least 75 wounded"




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Veteran #1: "They broke through our lines. It was hell. We had about 52 wounded and 21 killed after the first year, maybe more. I was one of the 12 to come back home."




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Veteran #2: "We had over 100 wounded at least and 62 dead. Vietnam was hell. Stuff like that, you just don't forget."




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Veteran #3: "48 years ago, I had my helicopter shot down. I know several of the people I knew had died in combat. I can't believe I made it alive. Life after the war was tough. We didn't get thanked for our service. Never."




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Veteran #2: "Corporal Ernie thanked me for my service. It was a... rewarding feeling. Especially coming from another veteran."




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Veteran #1: "Takes a Veteran to understand a Veteran,"




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Veteran #1: "And he is a Veteran."




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Veteran #3: "He has a Veteran's best interest in mind. He knows when he makes foreign policy decisions that it affects lives. Ernie Fletcher is a Veteran's best friend. After all, he did serve."




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Veteran #1: "And he said.. 'Thank you for your service.' tearing up"






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I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 18, 2018, 12:45:20 PM
Instant Carolla campaign update in Iowa
Mr Donald Trump dropped out of the race and endorsed Adam Carolla in Cedar Rapids Iowa in which he said “Adam Carolla is the best man to beat Crooked Hillary Clinton,No Name Russ Feingold and Crazy Joe Biden”
Trump ended the speech by yelling a famous Reagan campaign slogan in that Adam Carolla will “Make Amercia Great Again”.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 18, 2018, 04:49:41 PM
"A Leader"
Ernie Fletcher's 4th Television Ad
Aired in all early Primary & Caucus States

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher from the 2nd Presidential Debate

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Fletcher: I explain my bid like this:



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Fletcher: These past events were made specifically to play a game of political gotcha and dirty politics.



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Fletcher: A game the majority of Americans disapprove of and for good reason.




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Fletcher: I share the disappointment and dissatisfaction of the American people of the political rhetoric of our nation's leaders and our current administration. The fact is the political machine of our nation's leaders is a failed system that has served no Americans except itself. As President,



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Fletcher: I will not play this game of political gotcha and it's about time we end it in Washington.




I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 05:57:37 PM
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1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?

You know being a U.S Attorney in New Jersey I've seen political corruption from the school board, all the way to the statehouse. And you know what the worst part is; it absolutely rots everything else around it. You can't reform public housing if Assemblymembers are taking kickbacks, you can't fix the state's budget if Mayors are giving out jobs to their friends and allies, and you can't get ordinary voters to give a damn about politics, if they see the same old corrupt cabal just going around in circles to make themselves even richer.

I know that New Jersey has a reputation for corruption, but by god, I've fought against it. I made fighting corruption the 2nd most important priority for my office as U.S Attorney, behind counter-terrorism. And you know what, when you stand up and confront the rot of corruption you can get a lot done. I convinced 130 Politicians, from every level of state government, and from both the Republican and Democratic parties. Corruption is an issue frankly, that we cannot treat as a party political issue; and it's one that we need to tackle.

As Governor in New Jersey I've begun to tackle it. I've put forward a serious ethics program that would ban dual office-holding; the ridiculous practice where mayors were taking salary's to not even turn up to the State Senate. I've made sure elected officials release much more detailed financial transactions, and I froze, and reformed how the state created public jobs. But I know that we need to do a lot more.

That's why as President I'd introduce legislation to clean up our politics; I'd want to put at least a two year ban on elected officials becoming lobbyists, I'd want to ensure that people who are acting as lobbyists, like Tom Daschle, register as a lobbyist, I'd want to clean up some of the rules on Dark Money, to stop foreign money flowing into our politics, and like in New Jersey, I'd want members of congress to be submit more detailed, and regular financial reports.

If I'm elected President people will know that I'll take a tough stance because that's what I've done as US Attorney, and as Governor.

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2.- One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?

The thing I think a lot of the public forget about President Bush is just how instrumental he was in those hours, and days after 9/11. We all remember the pain that American was going through, the fear, the uncertainty. President Bush not only brought our country together, but he also brought the awesome might of the US against Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, and against the Taliban. I'll tell you this; when I was a U.S Attorney I had every tool, every bit of funding and every bit of support from the Bush administration. It's thanks to President Bush, and the dedicated leadership that he put in, that our country has not suffered another awful day like 9/11.

I'll also say something else; President Bush knew how to win (cheers). It's hard to remember now we've got President Obama, but President Bush knew how to talk to Americans in states like New Hampshire, in New Mexico, in Florida, because he had a clear message. He gave Americans the biggest tax cut for a generation, he gave us two great Judges; Justice Alito and Justice Roberts on the Supreme Court, and he fought, and fought for pro-life values, with the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban.

Now look I'll be honest; I think President Bush struggled after 2004. Second terms are always hard for a President. As republicans we should have done more to tackle, and reduce the deficit. We relied too much on the housing bubble for economic growth, and didn't do enough to keep good, high quality jobs in America. Republicans simply didn't do well after 2004, and there's a reason we lost congress in 2006, and then the White House in 2008.

But it's not fair for our party to run in 2012 and just close our eyes, and pretend that it didn't happen. Where I agree with President Bush; whether on tax cuts, counter terrorism, or on expanding the republican coalition I'll be clear. And where I disagree; such as the national debt, the deficit or the economy I'll be equally clear.


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1.- To Governor Christie: Governor, you have now become the Republican frontrunner in the polls after the departure of Governor Romney. Clearly his voters will be important for anyone to win the primary, but at the same time you and Governor Romney traded harsh blows until his departure. Why should former Romney voters support you?

Look me and Governor Romney exchanged some harsh words in the campaign. It's the nature of politics. Governor Romney believed he was the best candidate for the Presidency, and I believe I'm the best candidate, so it was only natural that we'd put forward our cases.

But I'll tell you what; if Governor Romney had won, I would have been by his side in every swing state after August, because Governor Romney would have been 100 times a better President than Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

I'd say to supporters of Governor Romney, that I'm not going to lie and say that you'll agree with me on everything, or think I'm perfect. But ultimately we've got the same goals; we both want to repeal the job-killing taxes in Obamacare, we both wanted to fix the tax system to reduce taxes for working Americans, we both wanted to create high quality jobs, and we both wanted to fix this mess that President Obama has left us in.

I've been delighted to have the endorsement of Governor Sandoval, and Senator Ayotte, who both endorsed Governor Romney to drop out, and I'm going to spend a lot of time in this campaign reaching out to supporters of Governor Romney. I know that me, Mary Pat and everyone in my campaign is praying for Anne's health, and we know that Mitt's service to America isn't finished yet.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 06:02:51 PM
Debate Answers Part 2

Reply to Adam Carolla

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And the Patriot Act I honestly gave a chance cause in all honesty I was fooled into believe he was a good president in 2001 however the Patriot Act has been awful to Amercians.  What major terrorist attack has it stopped? I will wait. We still have the DC snipers, We still had Fort Hood, We still had the LAX shooting back in 2002 just to touch on a few. As President I will in my first days revoke the Patriot Act.

Mr Carolla, come to New Jersey and tell the servicemen and women in Fort Dix, that the Patriot Act hasn't stopped any major attacks, because if you knew anything about National Security, and Counter-Terrorism, you'd know that the Patriot Act has stopped numerous terror attacks.

I know this for a fact, because as U.S Attorney I used the Patriot Act to get roving wiretaps on the suspects in that case, when 5 radical Islamic terrorists plotted to gun down our brave soldiers. No-one ever said that the Patriot Act would be able to stop all violent acts; that's just absurd. But what it does is give our law enforcement agents the tools; whether that's roving wiretaps, or surveillance of lone-wolf terrorists, to stop a major terrorist attack.

So please Mr Carolla, can you actually learn the facts about counter-terrorism if you want become President. This isn't some radio phone in show where you can just say whatever pops into your head; this is serious.

Closing Statement

I think it's fair to say that 2011 has been a pretty grueling year for Americans. We've seen our economy continue to cater, our businesses continue to fail, and our reputation round the world continue to decline.

But we can change that. In Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida voters will be voting in the primary for who the republicans will nominate. It's a great responsibility, and frankly one that should be taken seriously.

I'm the only candidate running who can do three things; I can unite our party, I can beat Hillary Clinton, or whoever the Democrats nominate, and I can carry out real meaningful, conservative reform in Washington. I'm sick of seeing our country in the state it's in; jobs moving overseas, factories and businesses closing down, our allies in Israel wondering if we even care, our enemies in Iran wondering where they can expand next. It's no wonder that so many folks hate politicians, and ask 'when will will things get better?''

They'll get better if you put someone who fight for you interests in the Oval Office. We don't need another Clinton in the White House; we need someone who has the experience, and the skills to fight for America's interests both home and abroad. And you know what else we need; someone who can bring some hope to the people in this country. I'm the candidate who can do that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 07:02:56 PM
Walter Jones Debate Responses

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1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?

Governor Blagojevich was no exception to the rule. Far from it. He just happened to be one of the unlucky souls who got exposed for his misdeeds, but the fact of the matter is that this culture of corruption runs deep in the very fabric of Washington D.C. I've seen it with my own eyes while serving in Congress for a number of years. Many of these people running for office say one thing to voters, hold big promises, and act like they're above it all, when they just follow the crowd once they get in. Politicians are routinely paid off by big banks, insurance companies, foreign governments, you name it! Need I go on? *laughs*

So, this isn't new to Americans. It can be big and blatant, or it can be small and undercover, but the end result is still the same: People lose faith in the system, because they think nothing can be done to stop this. The establishment of this country has had its way for a long time because they've lied, cheated, and bullied their way into power. What's more, they have big money backing their goals and conspiring against the American people. It's time to finally stand up to these crooks and tell them their time in the front seat is over.

My record in the House shows I've got the fortitude to fight off corrupt politicians. I've had to do it all the time just to survive, and I always come out on top in the end. A President Jones will take that same approach to the White House. The biggest issue driving corruption by far is big money in politics, so I would seek real campaign finance reform: that means limiting campaign contributions by these big lobbyists and donors, and putting focus back on the small donors that drive grassroots campaigns. I would seek term limits on legislators so they can't build up their stature and power forever and be invincible to accountability. Finally, I would change the very culture of Washington from the bottom up. We need dedicated public servants, committed to the Lord, who would put country first and leave partisan politics aside.

If we can go all of that, by God, we might just solve the corruption problem once and for all.


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2.- One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?

If we want to move forward and grow as a party, we must leave the Bush years behind us for good.

I gave President Bush a chance. Many chances, in fact. I liked his original platform when he first ran in 2000, back when he was talking about "compassionate conservatism" and being responsible with our national debt. I was also arguably his biggest cheerleader for the Iraq War at first, because I believed we were trying to do good. So, what happened? What happened was President Bush not only deceived me, but he deceived the entire nation through his deeds.

Let's go through the record. The American public did not get the honest truth about why we were going into Iraq and staying there. Once we got in, and even after we toppled Saddam Hussein, we had no mission and we seemed set on staying there indefinitely. The Bush administration might not have been thinking very hard about the consequences of that, but we're talking about human lives here. I have written thousands of letters to families who lost their loved ones in the war, because I can only apologize and try to atone for my sins after my vote. The President never apologized for his decisions in Iraq.

Bush was also terribly reckless with spending. His first Treasury Secretary quit after being told by Dick Cheney that "deficits don't matter." Those words sure rung true in the White House, since they spent money like a drunken sailor and ran up our national debt by a few trillion dollars. This just won't be impacting us now, but it will impact our children and grandchildren for generations to come. We as conservatives must truly be conservative with how we spend, and President Bush failed in that regard time and time again even as he was campaigning as a fiscally responsible leader.

Is this really the making of a compassionate conservative? It sounds to me like Bush failed the American people time and time again. As long as we continue to defend this man and his administration, the Republican Party will have a big albatross around its neck for a generation. We can do better, and we will do better with new leadership. The reason why I first ran for President was to offer an alternative to Bushism. If you agree, then I ask that you consider me for your vote.


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4.- To Congressman Jones: Congressman, you're noted as being on the rise after the endorsement of Governor Palin endeared you to many Tea Party types, even if there seems to be controversy about your foreign policy views. The question is, why should Tea Party Republicans consider you to be their candidate?

It's simple: I'm 100% behind what the Tea Party stands for. They want balanced budgets, cutting the debt and deficit, and more accountability in Washington. So do I. Many Republicans will claim they believe in the same thing, but I've put it in practice. That's the reason why I've fought off John Boehner and his gang in Congress, and it's why I have a big target on my back wherever I go in Washington. *laughs* To see a movement like the Tea Party spring up organically is a very good thing for our democracy, and I'll stand behind whatever shakes up the establishment.

You mentioned Governor Palin. I'm quite proud to have Sarah's endorsement, and she's really a fiercely independent leader along with being a conservative. When she ran in Alaska, she too ran against the entire establishment and managed to win as the underdog. Once she became governor, she acted on her promises, so it's no wonder she's been adored by many in the state. I would emulate Governor Palin should I be lucky enough to become President by actually meaning what I say and working on my promises from day one. She endorsed my campaign because she has her full trust in me.

I also recognize that when you get more attention, you'll get more critics. You're bound to come across disagreements in politics, but what I will say is that even people who don't entirely agree with me on foreign policy actually have quite a bit more in common with me than they think. I would rather build more roads in cities here than to build roads in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's the fiscally conservative approach: we could save so much of our taxpayers' dollars by focusing on our problems at home first than abroad. But what I'd like to hit home is that we don't always have to agree on the details when we agree on the big picture. Like Reagan said, "The person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and an ally, not a 20% traitor."


Closing statement:

It's clear this campaign has the momentum. I want to thank all of the people who have stuck with me on this ride so far. For those who aren't supporters, I want to reach out my hand to you. Your voice is just as valuable to me, because we're all Americans are we're all in this together. If you're tired of the same old business in Washington, tired of the corrupt politicians, tired of the endless wars, tired of the skyrocketing debt, and ready for something new, then I am your voice in this campaign. We the People are able to change Washington, but it will take a team effort.

When I was polling at 2% and pundits laughed at my campaign, they didn't realize that regular Americans outside the beltway saw something different. Now they aren't laughing. We've already changed the dialogue of this race. Let's continue to shake things up. Thank you all, and God bless this fine country of ours.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 07:05:04 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Surrogate Performances
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Governor Sandoval endorses Chris Christie at Nevada Rally

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'It's a great honour to endorse Governor Christie today for President. It's a great honour to see so many proud citizens turn out today; I hope you're all gonna be turning out to caucus (cheers)

A lot of you will know that I originally endorsed Governor Romney; I supported Governor Romney because of his extensive record in the private sector, and because I knew that that as Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt had a record as a dedicated reformer.

I know that I'm praying for Anne's health, as is Chris. Mitt has been a dedicated public servant, and I know that everyone in Nevada, especially the Mormon community is grateful for his service.

But it's time for the future now, and there is only one candidate in this race who can lead America to a bright, and prosperous future; and that is Governor Chris Christie (cheers)

We need someone like Governor Christie, who has put country above party in tackling corruption, who has put school kids above big, powerful unions and who has put tax payers above out of control politicians, and vetoed tax rises. It's not going to be easy for whoever enters the White House; we've got a lot of problems to fix. But when I look at Governor Christie's record I know that he can bring people together, crash some heads together and get real results.

You know I joked before we came on stage, that we should start a tribute band called the Governors, because what, 6 Governors have now endorsed Governor Christie. You know why, because as Governors we know what it takes to fix problems, we know what it takes to wake up and be given 100 problems to solve in an hour, we know that it takes someone with the courage, the determination and the spirit to fight.

We need someone like Governor Christie to sort out this mess in Washington folks. I know that you'll all be joining me to caucus won't you (cheers)

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Ayotte endorses Christie: 'We need someone ready to be Commander-in-Chief on Day one.''

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When Governor Romney dropped out the race I asked myself a simple question; out of all the candidates running, who can best protect, and defend the citizens of New Hampshire? Governor Christie is the only candidate running who has direct executive experience in stopping terrorism, in stopping arms trafficking, in fighting corruption and in keeping folks safe.

It's not enough just to make a couple of good speeches, or to have a passionate campaign; you've got to be able to prove to voters that you can do this job. I sit on the Senate Armed Service Committee; I know the stresses that our troops are under. I know that I can trust Governor Christie to keep Americans safe.

Folks here in New Hampshire have a big role to play in selecting who'll become President. The only candidate who can unite our party, win in November and keep our country safe is Governor Christie.  



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Governor Huntsman joins Governor Christie for Carson City, Nevada Rally
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'It's great to be here in Carson City; just before coming to this rally me and Chris were able to able to visit the Mormon Temple, and as always it was just so humbling. I was speaking to some folks about the work charity outreach work there doing for some folks who've fallen on hard times , and it was just so moving to here their stories. So many people in the Church had donated money, donated food and most of all, donated their precious time to help those less fortunate.

As Mormons we don't need Government to tell us that; and as Americans we don't need the Government to tell us that we need to help each. We know folks are suffering out there, and we know that we can come together and fix it. I know that many in the mormon community were supporting Governor Romney, but I also know that no is not the time to get caught up in the petty differences of the past; if you want to get the government off our back, if you want to reduce taxes for hardworking Americans, and if you want to defeat Hillary Clinton, or Joe Biden in November, then we need to rally around, and support Governor Christie.

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Martinez: Governor Christie has a record that Floridians can trust

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Speaking at a campaign event in Miami, Florida, Governor Susanna Martinez told voters that Governor was the only candidate who 'they can trust' to both beat the Democratic Nominee, and then deliver 'proper, conservative reforms on taxes, on defense and on counter-terrorism''. Stressing the Governors record as both a US Attorney and Governor, Martinez told voters that 'Governor Christie has proven experience protecting, and fighting for the interest of all citizens'', and said that it was vital that the republicans nominate someone who 'can reach out, and bring Americans together.''  


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 18, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
Carolla debate response to Chris Christie

Mr Christie I have the most up most respect for the Milltary.  I’ve had family members who have fought in the toughest times for Amercia. From the First World War, World War II Korea and Vietnam. I’m sorry but just because it has the title “Patriot” in it doesn’t make it patriotic.  Here’s some good research that’s supports my view.
In 2006, the Military Commissions Act was put into place to expand upon what the Patriot Act covers, and widens the definition of "illegal enemy combatant" to include US citizens as well.

Simply put this So without waiting for any sort of investigation of what had just happened, and with Congress in a panic, DOJ came to Capitol Hill with a list of powers it said it needed to fight terrorism. Congress passed it while Ground Zero was still smoldering.

Because Congress was in a rush to pass something quickly, they didn't take much time to examine or debate the bill. They didn't notice that:

Few of the provisions limited themselves to terrorism; Patriot Act powers have since been invoked in all sorts of cases. Take, for instance, the "sneak and peek" warrant, where the government doesn't have to tell the target about the search. In 2013, 51 sneak and peek warrants were issued for terrorism cases, while 9,401 sneak and peek warrants were issued for drug cases. Drugs are bad, sure, but they have nothing to do with terrorism—and Congress had previously rejected sneak-and-peek for drug cases.

A lot of provisions included gaping loopholes. For instance, Section 215 was intended to allow the government to get secret warrants to search business records relevant to a terrorism investigation. One would think that the government would have to show some sort of reasonably strong connection to a specific investigation—but that wasn't actually stated in the law, and so the government used it to get secret warrants for things like "records of every single phone call made by any Verizon customer", since some of those calls might someday be relevant to an investigation of a terrorist.

The government actually had all the information it needed to prevent the attacks; it just couldn't put it all together before it was too late, but Congress didn't know about that until long after the Patriot Act passed. The 9/11 Commission wouldn't even be created for another year, and it took two more years to release its final report. The Patriot Act was basically a complete guess at what might have stopped the attacks—and now that we have more information, that guess looks like it was totally wrong.

And now that we've had the Patriot Act for 10 years, we know that, in practice, these powers don't really help us with terrorism cases. The FBI can't point to a single major terrorism case they cracked because of it.
So in short, I oppose the Patriot Act because it was an opportunistic power grab which ultimately did nothing to address terrorism or the failure to stop the 9/11 attacks.
It’s not that I hate the Milltary, I just want peace.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 18, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
Carolla campaign update

Carolla campaigned back in the Pacific through mid to late December on brining back the Federal Reserve and the Gold Standard.
Carolla also campaigned on the issue of bringing peace to the Middle East and Amercia.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 07:33:18 PM
Walter Jones Schedule: December 1-25

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December 1-7: Town halls and meet and greets in Nevada; rallies in Henderson, Reno, and Las Vegas; massive outreach to Tea Party groups; continued outreach to Latino, Mormon, and veterans groups; beefing up campaign HQ in Las Vegas; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; establishing new campaign offices in rural counties; canvassing statewide with Governor Palin; voter registration drive.

December 8-16: Town halls and meet and greets in South Carolina; rallies in Myrtle Beach, Goose Creek, Conway, North Charleston, and Columbia; massive outreach to Tea Party groups; continued outreach to Evangelical and veterans groups; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; persuading soft Paul and Carolla supporters to join campaign; establishing new campaign offices in central South Carolina; canvassing statewide with Governor Palin; voter registration drive.

December 17-22: Town halls and meet and greets in Iowa; rallies in Davenport, Council Bluffs, Mason City, Sioux City, and Cedar Rapids; massive outreach to Tea Party groups; continued outreach to Evangelical and veterans groups; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; persuading soft Paul and Carolla supporters; grassroots campaign to attract disaffected, working-class voters; canvassing statewide with Governor Palin; voter registration drive.

December 23-24: Town halls and meet and greets in New Hampshire; rally in Concord; massive outreach to Tea Party groups; continued outreach to Evangelical and veterans groups; grassroots campaign to attract independent voters; multiple radio and TV interviews statewide; canvassing statewide with Governor Palin; voter registration drive.

December 25: Spending time with family in North Carolina.



Walter Jones Campaign Strategy
-Continue loud, populist campaign message across the country
-Promote Sarah Palin's endorsement and feature her regularly in campaign rallies
-Make extended new outreach to Tea Party groups and supporters, stressing common ground and assuaging concerns on foreign policy
-Strengthen grassroots fundraising machine with regular "money bombs" staged nationwide
-Reach out to soft Paul and Carolla supporters in states where they poll poorly to Jones
-Promote campaign rallies in hopes of being televised and seen by millions
-Major radio ad buys in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada promoting Jones as a humble man of faith


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 07:52:01 PM
RISE OF THE BARRACUDA

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Speaking at a massively televised rally in Des Moines, Iowa, former Governor Sarah Palin made the following remarks in a speech endorsing Congressman Walter Jones:

Are you people ready for something new in Washington? Are ya tired of the same old, same old nonsense and bushwhacking from these career politicians? I'm behind Walter Jones because he represents a movement! It's a movement to make America strong and proud and fierce. We don't need people like Wicked Hillary or Goofy Ol' Uncle Joe up there, so why vote for someone who's old news just like them?

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Let me tell ya: Walter's fighting the establishment every day. How do I know? I was there! I've done it. I've seen it. It's crazy business, folks! He can't be corrupted, he won't be corrupted, and he's the people's choice this election! He won't give you the spiel about being electable and blah blah blah like some people. He's in it to win it, and I'm gonna be there with him all the way!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 07:54:05 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Schedule

1st December-3rd December: Governor Christie held a new leg of his 'Telling it like it is' Tour in New Hampshire, with town halls across the state. Governor Christie told New Hampshire voters that his first legislative effort as President will be ''to get real, meaningful tax reform. Let's have 3, much lower tax brackets. Let's get gut the estate tax, let's get rid of the job-killing Obamacare mandates, let's get this country back to work''.

4th December: Governor Christie joined Senator Ayotte for a tour around the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, and meet with active service members, and officers to discuss National Security, and other military related matters. Later in the evening Governor Christie held a 'Veterans of Foreign Wars' Town Hall meeting, and then met military families at a meet, and greet in a Diner.

5th December: Governor Christie held a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire with Senate Majority Leader Jeb Bradley, and Senator Ayotte, where Governor Christie argued that ''Republicans need someone who can bring our country together, we need someone who can bring people together, but stay committed to our conservative principles''. In the evening Governor Christie held a fundraiser with Senator Ayotte.

6th December: Governor Christie traveled to Miami, Florida, to campaign with Governor Martinez of New Mexico. The Governor met with members of the Cuban Community, and in a speech reasserted his opposition to opening relations with Cuba, and denounced the Castro regime as 'the center of evil in the Caribbean''.

7th December: Governor Christie traveled to Tampa Florida to hold a series of Tele-Town Halls, where he took questions from voters around Florida about issues ranging from the deficit, to National Security. Governor Christie reaffirmed his intention to work together with ''both parties to eliminate the deficit'' and ''pay down our enormous national debt''.

8th December: Governor Christie returned to New Jersey to carry out his duties as Governor.

9th-16th December: Governor Christie kicked off his marathon 7 Day tour of Iowa in his campaign bus. Vowing to go to 'every corner'' of Iowa, the Governor begun with a fiery Q&A at the University of Iowa where he proclaimed ''you can shout at me as much as you want'' after being heckled for his support for pro-life causes. Later the Governor delivered a speech in support of 'Ethanol'' and other 'alternative energy sources'', telling the crowd 'it's bringing in jobs for rural America, we've gotta support that.'' Governor Christie held over 20 town hall events in Iowa over the 7 days.

17th December: Governor Christie returned to New Hampshire to hold a round-table discussion, and meet and greet with former supporters of Governor Romney. Accompanied by Senator Ayotte, Governor Christie told voters that he shared Governor Romney's commitment to 'cutting taxes, cutting regulations, and fixing this awful mess in Washington.''

18th December:
Governor Christie traveled with Mary Pat for a campaign rally in South Carolina where he announced that his number one priority to keep Americans safe would be to capture or kill Obama Bin Laden. Governor Christie also promised to appoint as Defense Secretary someone 'committed to protecting our military, caring for our veterans, and renewing American Leadership.''

19th December: Governor Christie returned to Sioux City, Iowa, to meet with Evangelical Leaders ahead of the caucus, and gave a speech where he pointed to his experience in New Jersey where he 'veteod, and blocked out of control activist judges, who were nothing more than rubber stamps for the Democrats.'' Governor Christie said that he would 'appoint Justices, who take a 'restrained view of the the Constitution like Justice Alito''.

20th-25th December: Governor Christie returned home to New Jersey to deliver a Christmas address to the state, to turn on the festive lights and to meet with the families of Military Veterans, and distribute Christmas presents on Christmas eve. He spend Christmas, and boxing day with his family in Trenton.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 07:54:44 PM
Debate Response

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And now that we've had the Patriot Act for 10 years, we know that, in practice, these powers don't really help us with terrorism cases. The FBI can't point to a single major terrorism case they cracked because of it.

That's not true Mr Carolla. As the person who was personally running the case, I know for a fact that the Fort Dix case used the Patriot Acts amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, to get a wiretap on the suspect. But lets look at what the FBI Director, Robert Mueller, himself said

'' the PATRIOT Act has proved extraordinarily beneficial in the war on terrorism and has changed the way the FBI does business. Many of our counterterrorism successes, in fact, are the direct results of provisions included in the Act.''

You know I think we should trust the opinion of dedicated, career National Security officials on this one.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 08:02:32 PM
Campaign Ads

Campaign Ad 1: Go to Work.

Run in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada.
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When my mum was on her deathbed, she grabbed me by hand, and told me 'there is nothing unsaid between us.'' There is no love stronger than the love between a son, and his mother, but she knew that I knew how much she loved, and cared for me. Then she told me something even more moving...

She said to me 'Christoper, Go back to Work.' She was giving me permission to let her go, she knew that she had done everything to raise me. Three days later she passed away, and they were the last words we exchanged. I had no regrets because I lived my life the way she taught me.

Every day I do what my mom told me. I went to work.

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I was the first U.S Attorney appointed after 9/11, and I made counter-terrorism the number 1 priority of my office after the cowardly attacks on America.
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I put the Fort Dix attackers behind bars, and am the only candidate running who has stood up, day after day, to protect America.

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I put crooked, corrupt politicians like Sharpe Jones in prison, for using campaign funds to pay for their lavish lifestyle.
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I ran for Governor of New Jersey, and won in a deep blue state. Since then we balanced a budget twice, without raising taxes, we fixed our broken pension system and we beat the powerful public unions.
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Now I'm running to President, so that I can fight for you, so that I can fight to get our Economy booming again, to get Washington to balance it's budget and to get rid of Obamacare. Join me, and let's fight for America.



Heartbeat

Campaign Ad 2: Heartbeat (Airs in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida.)

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Footage of Governor Christie talking at a Town Hall

I became pro-life in 1996 when I found out Mary Pat was Pregnant, we went into the hospital, and I heard something beautiful. I heard the 13 week old heartbeat of our daughter. I froze. All I could hear was that beat of life. I remember on the car-ride home thinking, how could I be stay pro-choice?

I didn't become pro-life by having a conversation with an Academic. I didn't become pro-life when I wanted to run for some higher office. No, I became pro-life when I heard that heartbeat. When I heard that life?

When I ran to be Governor of New Jersey I was honest with voters- I'm proud about being pro-life. People had a lot more respect for you if you tell them the truth. It's why people hate politicians. We need leaders who are honest. Leaders who are in touch with their emotions, and Leaders who are not afraid of talking about their morals.

My life changed in 1996 when I heard that heartbeat. If I'm elected President, I'll remember that heart-beat every day in office.

Cuts to image of Governor Christie with his family.

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I'm Chris Christie, and I endorse this message.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 18, 2018, 08:07:00 PM
Campaign Ad 3- 'Citizens'. Airs in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada.
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(Footage of Mary Pat Christie talking at a town hall)

When Americans have faced their darkest hour in the past, they haven't looked to the same old politicians from Washington to fix it. They've looked to heroic individuals to lead us; a General lead our nation out of the ashes, a lanky lawyer brought our nation together when it was more divided than ever, the man who defeated the Nazis helped protect America from the dangers of communism, and a charismatic actor from California inspired a generation with his hopeful vision of conservative reform.

My husband stepped forward after so many of you came to us, and told him to run. He's not running because of some long hold ambition, or some burning desire for fame and fortune. He's running because he knows that he's the best for the job. I've seen him get up every morning in New Jersey to fight for ordinary Americans. Let him do from the White House. Join our fight to save America's future.

If you agree with Mary Pat, please join our fight. I'm Chris Christie and I endorse this message.
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Campaign Ad 4: Bold and Brave. Run in Iowa, New Hamsphire, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada.

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(Narrator) For too long Washington politicians have been too scared to fix our tax code. But that ends today.

Chris Christie is running for President with the bold, brave plan to fix our broken tax system.

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He'll cut all rates of income tax, to give every American a pay-rise.

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He'll repeal Obamacare's job-killing mandates.

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He'll gut the estate tax to stop Washington's out of Control Spending.

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And he'll stop tax loopholes that let American companies shift your jobs overseas.

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Isn't it great to finally have someone who can fix our tax code, and get high quality jobs back to America?

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I'm Chris Christie and I approve this message.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 08:10:45 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Governor Palin Speaks

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Well, hi there, folks! This is Governor Sarah Palin talking to ya straight from Alaska.

You know who I'm voting for this year? Congressman Walter Jones. Here's why all you good folks should, too!

He's a man of integrity. He's been fighting the corrupt Washington establishment from day one. He stands for what he really believes in, and ain't that a rare sight up there?

He's been fighting for our brave men and women in uniform. There's no one else like him who knows how badly the VA needs to be reformed.

He's pro-life and pro-Second Amendment, 100%, no questions asked. He's a proud conservative and a good family man.

And, you know what? He's never lost his roots. He stands for the proud, hardworking, average Joe out there who can't seem to get a break.

Isn't it just about time we had some real change in Washington? That's why I'm for Walter. What about you?

I'm Walter Jones and I approve this message.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Momentum

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This is Congressman Walter Jones.

Why have establishment Republicans spent hundreds of thousands to take me out before? Because they know I stand up for my beliefs.

I'll do what's best for you, the American people. There are no big donors or lobbyists behind this campaign. This is 100% funded by everyday Americans with a hope for a better tomorrow.

Together, we can stand up to the Washington consensus. They fear they'll no longer be in charge if their people can't get in.

They're right. We have the momentum.

I approve this message because the only good unemployment is a Washington crook without a job.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 18, 2018, 08:31:44 PM
Ad: America the Beautiful

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America, home of the brave and land of the free.

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We live in a beautiful and naturally great nation, but recently, we’ve gotten into some major problems.

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Two men: George W. Bush, and Barack Obama, have destroyed America’s standing on the world stage. We’ve had an economic collapse that we’re struggling to get out of, our debt is rising out of control, we’ve gotten ourselves into numerous foreign entanglements that we don’t need to be in.

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America, we’re reaching the point of no return, But hope is on the horizon. There’s only one candidate who can end the gridlock in Washington, fight for American jobs, make a lasting and long recovery from the Crisis of ‘08, one candidate who will get us out of war and keep America safe. That man is my dad, General Wesley Clark.

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”I’m Wesley Clark, and I approve this message!”

(To be played in West Virginia, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Utah)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 18, 2018, 08:48:26 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Our Troops

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These are the brave men and women who have sacrificed their lives for us in Iraq.

I honor them every day by keeping these pictures in my office.

These pictures remind me that when politicians in Washington make decisions, they often deal with life and death. It's up to us to make sure that they act responsibly, because when they don't, human lives are at stake.

I have written thousands of letters to the families who have lost these loved ones. There is no greater duty that I can think of than to let them know they're never alone.

We must not let our troops and their families down. We must fix our broken VA hospitals, improve the quality of healthcare, and lead them back into civilian life.

Although we can't change the past, the future is in our hands. It's our duty as Americans to take care of our veterans, for they are our brothers and sisters all under God.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 18, 2018, 09:19:11 PM
4th Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher

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Debate Answers & Responses


General Questions

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1.- With the sentence of former Governor Rod Blagojevich the issue of corruption in government has gained some significant exposure, particularly as the nation seeks answers and solutions. What would you say is the current level of corruption in America, and what would you do to address it?

First things first, what Governor Rod did is absolutely inexcusable. When he tried to get money from appointing a vacant seat, that's corruption. When he abused his power in attempting to get money from a Children's Hospital, that's corruption. When he attempted to bribe the Chicago Tribune, that's corruption— and the fact that the public has noticed it, pointed it out, and has him convicted is proof that our democracy WORKS! (audience applause)

I think everyone up here is strongly against corruption, or at least, they say they do, and I'm not here to argue if they don't. Here's what we're going to do: Let's make sure departing members of Congress can't lobby for 3 years, and to make sure it's enforceable, we're going to make lobbyists register. In such a dark time, we can't shy away to corruption for our unelected officials, and I'm not going to let them

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2.- One of the apparent disadvantages of the Republican Party at the moment is the legacy of the Bush Presidency, which while improving somewhat in numbers remains unpopular among the public. What is your personal view of the Bush years?

That's a very big question, and it's not just a yes or no answer. You can call Bush a good president for his tax cuts followed by hundreds of thousands of jobs, and that's true. You can call Bush a bad president because he spent trillions overseas and didn't act very fiscally conservative on his foreign policy, and with the reliance on the housing bubble for growth which led to the collapse. The truth is there is a grain of truth to each argument.

As a party, we should move past spending trillions overseas and acting fiscally liberal which carried into the Obama Administration. If we're going to call ourselves fiscally conservative, let's have budgets that are actually fiscally conservative. I supported Bush in his campaign because I believe he had change to give, and he did when he passed tax cuts for millions of middle class Americans.

However, it is never good to keep sticking to the same President's policy, and the Republicans shouldn't start to do that. Let's do the policies that are better for Americans NOW instead of the policies from 2004 (applause). Let's keep tax cuts and domestic fiscal conservatism. Let's become more fiscally conservative abroad. We need to focus on the future, and not the past! (applause)

Candidate Specific Questions

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Governor, a complicated legal case appeared at the time of your first campaign for Governor regarding your first choice for running mate and whether he met residency requirements, to the point in which the spot was declared vacant before a replacement was selected and your bid almost thrown out. Was this an error in judgement on your behalf?

This is really not a black- and- white answer. The Kentucky Supreme Court decided not to throw out my election because of that. This is something that effected nobody, nowhere, no how, and it's important to realize that. I've spent my entire life improving people's lives: From my service in the Air Force, to my career as a Doctor, to my seat as a U.S Representative, and my time as Governor. This was nothing more than a little bit of extra paperwork. I can promise everyone watching that I will never put extra paperwork over my job as a public servant.


Closing Statement

Now that 2011 about to close, we can say it's been a pretty bumpy ride for Americans the past year. Our only choice is to set our eyes on the future. It's time for politicians to stop divisive, useless rhetoric, and begin to focus more on the ethics, the policy, the vision. It's time for politicians to act more like public servants because that's what they are. I can promise you tonight that I won't stop focusing on that policy. It's time for us to get some actual recovery with an actual leader, and it's time for us to Win the Future.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 18, 2018, 09:38:03 PM
Huckabee to Iowa: "Show Fletcher the support that you showed me in 2008"
FOX News

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Mike Huckabee: I think we can all agree that Obama's economic recovery hasn't came after 3 years, and he has barely made any changes to foreign policy. Biden or Hillary won't make any changes to Obama's policy, and they know that. The current administration has hardly led more than it has divided. This election, we need an actual leader. Ernie Fletcher has served his country more than he has served the politicians by far more than the others. He's a veteran, a doctor, a U.S Representative, and a governor, and his track record in those jobs is magnificent and exceptional. Trust me when I say he's a true public servant.

So today, I'm asking the people of Iowa to show him the support that you showed me in 2008 when I ran for President. If you want an actual leader who will stand up for Iowa and the rest of the country, then Fletcher IS your guy. He united Republicans and Democrats when he won the biggest margin of any Republican ever in the 2003 Kentucky Governor Race, and it only got better when it came to his policy. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 18, 2018, 09:40:56 PM
Debate Response

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And now that we've had the Patriot Act for 10 years, we know that, in practice, these powers don't really help us with terrorism cases. The FBI can't point to a single major terrorism case they cracked because of it.

That's not true Mr Carolla. As the person who was personally running the case, I know for a fact that the Fort Dix case used the Patriot Acts amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, to get a wiretap on the suspect. But lets look at what the FBI Director, Robert Mueller, himself said

'' the PATRIOT Act has proved extraordinarily beneficial in the war on terrorism and has changed the way the FBI does business. Many of our counterterrorism successes, in fact, are the direct results of provisions included in the Act.''

You know I think we should trust the opinion of dedicated, career National Security officials on this one.

Carolla’s response:The 4th amendment! people The 4th amendment! That’s what is unconstitutional about it!!

It also has been reported to be caught spying on regular ordinary Amercians.  Would you still support the Patriot Act if you found out that a lot of your stuff you do I privacy they watch and record?

I don’t think that that’s the Founding Fathers when they founded this country had in mind.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on January 18, 2018, 11:37:06 PM
Schedule:
December 1st-25th New Hampshire

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New Hampshire
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Townhalls in Keene, Nashua, Concord, Manchester Merrimack  Exeter Hanover Portsmouth.
Endorsed by Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois .
Speeches in Keene Nashua Concord Manchester Portsmouth Derry and Exeter Hanover Merrimack.
Rallys in Keene Nashua Concord Manchester Portsmouth Derry Exeter Merrimack Hanover Durham Rochester and Laconia.   

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 19, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Turn Five: Stop, Caucus Time:
December 26th, 2011 to January 3rd, 2012

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In the News!

Iowa Caucuses approach
Clinton, Christie face key challenge in the first contest

Trump, Jindal drop out of GOP race
Two key candidates leaving the contest, Jones and Fletcher surging as alternatives?

1.- Turn: This is our fist "weekly" turn, covering the final days before the Iowa Caucuses. After months of laying the ground for your respective campaigns, actual voting will begin soon and momentum swings will certainly depend on your performances. As to the turn itself you're free on how you want to fight the caucus or whether to seriously contest it or not. The average of polls does have a margin or error than can go from -2 to +2% and there's still a decent number of undecideds, so a well executed strategy can pay off handsomely. There won't be a debate this turn, but there will be one before New Hampshire, before South Carolina and before Florida.

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 45%
Generic Democrat: 43%
Wesley Clark: 7%
Undecided: 5%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Chris Christie: 31%
Walter Jones: 18%
Ernie Fletcher: 17%
Ron Paul: 17%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 4%

Republicans: New challengers arise?

The continued changes in the make-up of the GOP field were only making the momentum swings wilder and wilder, and with the departure of Donald Trump and particularly Bobby Jindal there were many GOP voters left for grabs for the candidates to pick. Helped by strong debate performances and a reliable campaign machine, Governor Chris Christie increased his lead by cracking 30%, suddenly released from the threat of a very credible challenger in Jindal. All in all Govenor Christie has been more or less successful in garnering support from different wings of the GOP, even with several Tea Party voters have slowly moved into other camps. Still, despide this lead Christie remains vulnerable in Iowa and far behind in South Carolina, leading some to wonder if an even more conservative challenge could defeat the frontrunner...

Enter Walter Jones and Adam Fletcher. Both candidates, previously unlikely longshots, have showed skill in appealing to particular areas of the GOP electorate to bolster their chances, with social conservatives beginning to turn out for Governor Fletcher as their man - evidenced by his strong numbers in Iowa and South Carolina - and the Tea Party has begun to embrace Congressman Jones following a fiery debate victory and the endorsement of Sarah Palin. Both are beginning to look like the more credible challengers against Christie, although much will depend on their ability to do well in the early states. Ron Paul is also maintaining himself strong and relevant, leading Nevada and being within shot of defeating Christie in Iowa but undercut by the limited amount of his potential supporters so far. Behind the main challengers is Adam Carolla, who nonetheless has a sizable following after the Donald Trump endorsement and ma yet play a key role if he plays his cards right. Congressman Upton, finally, appears to rely on a strong performance in New Hampshire to catapult himself into a surge.

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 28%
Russ Feingold: 14%
Undecided: 5%

Democrats: Clinton bests Biden on first round

Upon the departure of Governor Bredesen and the entry of Vice-President Biden into the Democratic race, many wondered what would happen with so few time before the Iowa caucuses. Vice-President Biden entered strong and without much of the baggage that dragged President Obama down, and after launching his first blows against Senator Clinton - angering many of her loyalists by denouncing a "Clinton dynasty" -, the Clinton machine went in full force against the Vice-President. Effective ads dealt significant damage to his standing and a resounding debate win for Hillary allowed the Senator to expand her national lead and significantly limit Biden's gains, who barely won more voters (most of those gains from the Bredesen supporters) than he lost.

The other side of the coin, of course, is represented both by Senator Feingold and by the Iowa question. Feingold himself as seen as solid in the debate and has made progress in building a "progressive coalition", allowing himself a polling increase which could concievably turn him into a kingmaker if a Clinton-Biden race becomes more competitive or in a challenger if Biden flounders. And while Vice-President Biden may have taken some losses, a decision to focus only in Iowa has put him in dead heat with Senator Clinton, Iowa still being a weak spot for her. With Feingold also strong it is impossible who tell who will win the Iowa caucus, but it may just be the change for any of the three candidates to achieve a dramatic victory.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 19, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
GOP Average Polling:

IOWA:

Chris Christie: 27%
Ron Paul: 24%
Ernie Fletcher: 18%
Walter Jones: 16%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 3%


NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Chris Christie: 37%
Ron Paul: 23%
Adam Carolla: 15%
Walter Jones: 9%
Fred Upton: 8%
Ernie Fletcher: 5%
Undecided: 3%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Walter Jones: 30%
Ernie Fletcher: 29%
Chris Christie: 17%
Ron Paul: 10%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 6%

FLORIDA:

Chris Christie: 33%
Adam Carolla: 17%
Walter Jones: 14%
Ron Paul: 13%
Ernie Fletcher: 11%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 11%

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 30%
Adam Carolla: 19%
Chris Christie: 16%
Walter Jones: 16%
Ernie Fletcher: 9%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 10%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 19, 2018, 10:01:22 PM
DEM Average Polling:

IOWA:

Hillary Clinton: 35%
Joe Biden: 35%
Russ Feingold: 24%
Undecided: 6%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Hillary Clinton: 59%
Joe Biden: 21%
Russ Feingold: 16%
Undecided: 4%

NEVADA:

Hillary Clinton: 57%
Joe Biden: 33%
Russ Feingold: 6%
Undecided: 4%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Hillary Clinton: 49%
Joe Biden: 40%
Russ Feingold: 5%
Undecided: 6%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 56%
Joe Biden: 32%
Russ Feingold: 7%
Undecided: 5%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 19, 2018, 10:04:45 PM
Endorsements from Turn Three:

SPECIAL:

Des Moines Register: Hillary Clinton (Dem), Walter Jones (GOP)
Manchester Union Leader: Chris Christie (GOP)

Christie: Brian Sandoval, Kelly Ayotte.
Fletcher: Bill Owens, Mike Huckabee.
Corella: Mick Mulvaney, Arthur Laffer, Donald Trump.
Paul: Jesse Ventura, Barry Goldwater Jr.
Jones: Sarah Palin, Jeff Sessions, Butch Otter.
Upton: Mark Kirk.

Clinton: John Hickenlooper, Debbie Stabenow.
Biden: Beau Biden, John Kerry.

Clark: Rocky Anderson, Dan Boren.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 19, 2018, 10:24:01 PM
Debate Winners:

GOP:

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With a rapidly shrinking field the latest GOP debate had six candidates on stage as well, and quite a spirited night they had. The debate was in many ways dominated by a tough exchange between Carolla and Christie on the issue of terrorism, and one that was widely seen as a significant victory for Christie (despite coming out wounded) because of the public's much more enthusastic response to his stances than that of Carolla, very popular among libertarians but not so much amongst the wider electorate. With Ernie Fletcher's solid responses (but without a breakthrough moment) landing him 3rd place and Christie's wounds from his round with Carolla leaving him in second despite very well recieved responses on corruption and Bush, it was Congressman Walter Jones who won the debate, particulary because of responses regarding the Tea Party that increased his exposure to a national audience. Congressman Upton was noted as being on much better form than past ocassions, but still far away from Republican orthodoxy on most issues.

DEM:

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The stakes were high, and a large amount of Americans tuned in to the first debate between Senator Clinton and Vice-President Biden, with Senator Feingold returning to the debate stage as well. For most pundits the veredict was clear in that Senator Hillary Clinton had achieved a noteworthy victory against her newest challenger, even though she'd looked vulnerable at times (particularly as some former Obama supporters did boo her on one of her responses). It was believed Vice-President Biden gave a poor performance, particularly so on the North Korean issue, where Clinton managed to "twist the knife" and deliver a tough blow to the Vice-President. Biden wasn't helped as well by Clinton's response to the scandals Biden brought out, cementing his defeat. Senator Feingold avoided such controversy, thus achieving a strong second place that regained momentum for his bid.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 20, 2018, 11:47:41 AM
What Carolla did
After the holidays Carolla would go back on the Campaign stage in all 5 major states.
He would campaign with Donald Trump in Iowa and Mick Mulvaney in South Carolina as 2011 came to the end
Trump’s rallies would be notables for the nicknames he would give to the candidates like Crooked Hillary,Creepy Joe Biden, No Name Russ Fiendgold and Washed Up Wesley Clark.

The people in the crowd enjoyed Trump’s nickname for his opponents. Helping Carolla’s statement in the state.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: wxtransit on January 20, 2018, 12:54:26 PM
Baton Rouge, LA

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Hello Baton Rouge!

cheers

I'm standing here today to announce that I have endorsed a candidate for the Republican nomination for president.

cheers

I realize that almost no other candidate on this field can replicate a campaign quite like ours. Because we believed in America. We believed in the power of change. And we put our money where our mouth was, actually making change through a revolutionary campaign!

cheers

We showed Washington that America wants change. But let's not let this spirit of change go to waste. And while I may not be the leader of this movement into 2012, I believe that someone needs to be.

cheers

Let Washington know that we aren't finished. Let Washington know that we still believe in change. Let Washington know that they're not safe from us.

cheers

And for this reason, I officially endorse Walter Jones for the Republican nomination for president. While it may not be time for me, it's still time for change. And Walter will bring this change!

cheers

Thank you Baton Rouge, thank you to all of you for a great campaign, and God bless America!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 20, 2018, 01:21:54 PM
Adam Carolla campaign ad that airs in all 50 states
I’m Adam Carolla and I approve this message.
What do Chris Christie and the Democrats have in common?
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They are both gun grabbers and want to take away your 2nd amendment rights.

As Govenor Christie sign laws that banned concealed carry laws and has tried to bring in a assault weapon ban similar to the one of 1994.

And throughout his political career Christie has avocated for less rights for people to carry firearms and trying to declare fees on guns throughout the state.
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So much for conservative values Govenor.

However Adam Carolla will fight for right to bear arms. 
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He will veto any law that promotes any sort of gun control and will fight for you second amendment rights.

Carolla believes that the 2nd amendment is a very important part of the US constitution and will make you still have your right for sport and self defense

Choose a different kind of Republican. Choose Adam Carolla


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 20, 2018, 03:07:52 PM
Schedule for Joe Biden-Winning Iowa

December 26, 2011

Spend the morning in Delaware with family.

Speech in Muscatine, Iowa

Senator Clinton has serious ethical issues that we must address before she skates to victory. Remember Whitewater, when the billing records from the Rose Law Firm materialized in the White House's private residence, with Hillary's fingerprints on it? That's at a disqualification to be our nominee for President, let alone to President!

Meet Voters in Blue Grass, Iowa

December, 27, 2011

Meet Voters in Princeton, Iowa

Speech in Bettendorf, Iowa

Governor Christie is fast becoming the de facto and de jure establishment candidate on the Republican side. However, unlike in our party, where any one of our three candidates could be considered an establishment candidate, everyone but Christie, and maybe Governor Fletcher may be an establishment backed candidate. Us Democrats should be able to beat any one of them.

Meet Voters in Le Claire, Iowa

Meet Voters in Durant, Iowa

December 28, 2011

Speech at Modern Woodmen Park, Davenport, Iowa (With Beau Biden)

Many of our allies in NATO are simply not paying a fair share, requiring wealthier and more militarily advanced countries, such as Germany, the United Kingdom, and ourselves to pay far more than required to defend everyone else against threats like Russia and terrorism. As President, I will ensure all NATO countries pay a specified percentage of their GDP towards their NATO expenses.

Meet Voters in Roland, Iowa

Attend Kansas at Iowa State Men's College Basketball game, Hilton Coliseum, Ames, Iowa

December 29, 2011

Meet Voters in Huxley, Iowa

Meet Voters in Cambridge, Iowa

Meet Voters in Story City, Iowa

December 30, 2011

Meet Voters in Swisher, Iowa

Meet Voters in Shueyville, Iowa

Speech in Coralville, Iowa

You know, they say ethanol is a cleaner source of fuel than straight gasoline. So, as we campaign in the state that produces the most ethanol, I say that we need to produce more of it!

December 31, 2011

Attend Wisconsin at Iowa Men's College Basketball game, Carver-Hawkeye Arena, Iowa City, Iowa

Attend New Year's Eve Celebration's on the Las Vegas Strip, Las Vegas, Nevada.

January 1, 2012

Rest with family, Washington D.C

January 2, 2012

Meet Voters in Bourdant, Iowa

Meet Voters in Polk City, Iowa

Meet Voters in De Soto, Iowa

Meet Voters in Grimes, Iowa

January 3, 2012

Meet Voters in Sheldahl, Iowa

Meet Voters in Nevada, Iowa

Meet Voters in Dawson, Iowa

Election Night Rally at the Wells Fargo Arena, Des Moines, Iowa (With all surrogates)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 20, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
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Campaign Schedule
Dec. 26 - Jan. 3

Schedule:
December 26: South Carolina
December 27 - January 3: Iowa

December 26: Ernie flies to South Carolina the morning after Christmas. He begins the day with a rally in Columbia in Remington College. He is endorsed by Senator Jim DeMint after Bobby Jindal's dropout, saying he's genuine & has the competence to win. After that rally, Ernie does a brief exclusive interview with ABC News, then goes door to door campaigning after. He ends the day with a Meet & Greet in Southeast Richland Library in Columbia.

December 27: Ernie takes a flight to Sioux City, Iowa. He begins the day taking door to door campaigning with Glenna Fletcher & campaign staff. Later, he does a rally in Briar Cliff University where he is joined by Gov. Mike Huckabee. He meets with voters in La Juanita in Sioux City, and after, he drives to Dubuque, Iowa overnight.

December 28: Ernie begins the day meeting voters in Watershed Cafe in Dubuque. After, Ernie does a Press Conference with Gov. Mike Huckabee. Ernie spends some time with his campaign staff and volunteer in Iowa after, motivating them to get out and campaign. He ends the day doing a rally in Clarke University in Dubuque with Mike Huckabee.

December 29: Ernie drives to Muscatine beginning the day with a phone interview with FOX News. After, he campaigns door to door himself with campaign staff, and then does a Meet & Greet in Musser Public Library. Afterwards, he does a rally in Muscatine Community College. He finished the day meeting with voters at Farmer's Cafe.

December 30: He begins the day driving to Iowa City. He meets voters at The High Ground Cafe. After, he does a Town Hall in Mercer Park in Iowa City then does a rally in The University of Iowa. He flies out to Burbank, California to appear on "The Jay Leno Show"

December 31: Ernie flies back out to Iowa where he drives across Rural Towns & tours them. He drives to Dubuque to campaign door to door, and does a Meet & Greet in Carnegie-Stout Public Library. At his campaign HQ in Dubuque, he begins the New Year with a rally at his Iowa Campaign HQ.

January 1: Ernie begins the New Year with a Press Conference and a Brief Interview on Phone with FOX News. He drives out to attend churches across Iowa, and meets with the preachers there after. After, he campaigns door to door in Ottumwa, and finishes the day doing a rally in Indian Hills Community College where he's joined by Mike Huckabee.

January 2: Ernie begins the day driving to Urbandale and does a rally in Kaplan University where he is endorsed by Former Speaker Newt Gingrich. Later, he meets with voters at The Urban Grill, and does a Radio Interview after that. Ernie drives to Cedar Rapids where he does a Meet & Greet at Cedar Rapids Public Library. Ernie ends the night by attending a Basketball Game at the U.S Cellular Center in Cedar Rapids.

January 3: On Caucus Day, Ernie begins a massive "Get Out the Vote!" campaign where he campaigns door to door while campaign staff and volunteers campaign in most other towns after they caucus too. Campaign Surrogates campaign in several other Iowan cities aswell. Ernie meets voters in Rise N' Dine, Zeppelin's, Lucita's Diner, and other Diners across Cedar Rapids. Before Caucus results, he holds an election night rally in his Iowa Campaign HQ in Dubuque where he delivers a speech after the results.




South Carolina (December 26)
Key Issues: Religious Freedom, Border Security, Balanced Budget, Abortion (pro-life)

Iowa (December 27 - January 3)
Key Issues: Religious Freedom, Farm Subsidies, Balanced Budget



Campaign Staff Operations
  • Reach Out to Evangelicals, emphasizing his career as a Preacher
  • Reaching out to former Jindal supporters, emphasizing Fletcher's record of bringing change
  • Knocking door to door in early caucus & primary states
  • Regularly bring Mike Huckabee to Iowa rallies
  • Promoting rallies to get them televised
  • Spreading the campaign message of unity and strong change with a plan

Senator Jim DeMint endorses Fletcher: "We need someone who can shock pundits"
12.26.11

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Ernie has always been shocking pundits. In 1994, he flipped a democratic state house district. In 1996, he won a primary to a U.S House District by 4 votes, and he went on to flip that democratic district in 1998. He won re-election to that district in a landslide. In 2003, in Ernie's first campaign for Governor, he won the biggest margin of any Republican in a Kentucky governor election EVER, and was the only governor since 1971 to be Republican. We need someone who can shock pundits in 2012 to take back the White House, and that man is Ernie Fletcher. He's got my support.


Huckabee joins Fletcher Rally, reaches out to Evangelicals
12.27.11

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Fletcher has always stood up for religious freedom, tax relief, and farm subsidies, and he will continue to do that! I want Iowa to show support for Fletcher, like I got in 2008. He IS a conservative unifier, he's been doing that all his life. Some candidates, you just don't know if they'll stand up for conservative values because they say one thing in Jersey City and another thing in Louisville. Fletcher will always stand up for religious freedom. He'll always stand up for farm subsidies. He'll always stand up for tax relief, and he WILL get it passed in Washington. (cheering)



Newt Gingrich endorses Ernie: "He can turn our economy around"
1.2.12

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I've come to know Ernie well from the time he was a Representative. He is a very strong candidate for the Republican Party to nominate. He's a veteran and understands when and when not to use military force. He's a doctor and knows how to fix our healthcare system. He's a preacher and knows how to deliver Religious Freedom. He knows that the Obama economy has hurt our middle class.

From the time he was Governor, he delivered several conservative reforms with a Democratic State House and a Democratic State Senate. He knows how to pass things without his party in controls because he's done it before. He can unite conservatives behind him because he's done it before. He can turn our economy around, and we need someone in the White House who can do that NOW.

Fletcher reaches out to Iowa Evangelicals
1.1.12
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Ernie Fletcher in a Church in Iowa



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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 20, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
December 26, 2011 to January 3, 2012

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December 26: Senator Clinton remains near her Chappaqua, New York the day after Christmas, sitting down for various national media interviews.

December 27: Senator Clinton flies to Manchester, New Hampshire. In Manchester, she meets with AARP members at a morning breakfast. She tours Memorial High School in the afternoon before a large rally at the Verizon Wireless Arena in the evening. Senator Clinton is joined at the rally by Senator Jeanne Shaheen, Governor Andrew Cuomo, and Mayor Tom Manino. At the rally, Senator Clinton declares "We have a movement building here folks. It began in New Hampshire, it spread to Florida, and Nevada, and all over the country. Now we're going to Iowa. But I'll be back!" After the rally, Senator Clinton flies to Iowa.

December 28: Landing in Cedar Rapids, Senator Clinton holds a press conference on the tarmac with Senator Tom Harkin to accept Senator Harkin's endorsement. In his remarks, Senator Harkin says that there is a "Clinton wave" building in Iowa that's going to "put her over the top" in the Caucus. Senator Clinton points out that it was Iowa that ended Joe Biden's 2008 campaign.

Senator Clinton and Senator Harkin tour Mount Mercy College in Cedar Rapids and then hold a town hall meeting with college students at the College's Hennessey Recreation Center. The pair of Senators then drive to Iowa City and hold a rally at the famous Hancher Auditorium.

December 29: Senator Clinton begins her day in Iowa City. She and Senator Harkin are joined by Congressman Dave Loebsack, who also gives Senator Clinton his endorsement. The trio visit Hamburg Inn No. 2 and have lunch there before traveling to Davenport, where they visit the Putnam Museum. Senator Clinton then gives a special interview with NBC News.

December 30: Senator Clinton drives overnight to Council Bluffs. In the morning, she and former President Clinton meet with voters at Duncan's Cafe, then they meet with school children and their parents at Abraham Lincoln High School. Senator Clinton gives a speech on support for rural communities in nearby Neola at the Historic Phoenix Theatre.

December 31: Senator Clinton briefly crosses over into Blair, Nebraska after three days in Iowa. She meets with local Democratic Party volunteers to discuss the importance of getting out the vote "in every state", not just the early states. In the afternoon, she returns to Iowa to hold a town hall meeting in Randolph at the American Legion Post. That evening, joined by Senator Harkin, she holds a rally at Sidney High School in Sidney.

January 1: The New Year begins with a national conference call with state leadership to discuss "moving the campaign into the year of the election." The Clinton Campaign announces that Amanda Renteria, Chief of Staff to Senator Debbie Stabenow, will begin serving as State Operations Coordinator, to work as the main liaison between the national campaign and the state GOTV efforts.

Senator Clinton and Senator Stabenow meet with voters at Dordt College in the afternoon. In the evening, Senator Clinton, former President Clinton, Senator Harkin, Congressman Loebsack, and Senator Stabenow hold a fundraiser in Sioux Center.

January 2: Joined by Congressman Loebsack, Senator Clinton visits Indian Hills Community College in Ottumwa to promote her education plan. She emphasis her plan to "reign in predatory loan companies" to make higher education accessible. When a student asks her about free community college for every citizen, Senator Clinton doesn't completely write the idea off, saying "It's worth looking into. We've got to find a way to pay for it, first." Senator Clinton visits Twin Galaxies before leaving Ottumwa, to discuss the importance of emerging technology in the "rebuilding of the American economy."

In the evening, Senator Clinton sits down with the Des Moines Register Editorial Board for a free-ranging, on-the-record discussion to run in a special section before the caucus. In the interview, she reiterates her belief that "Vice President Biden is spouting far-right conspiracy theories in an effort to pick up a handful of votes from people who just simply hate me." She also calls the situation in Libya "concerning" and calls on a strong, international response to the crisis "that brings stability to the lives of the Libyan people."

January 3: Senator Clinton begins Caucus Day in Polk City, Iowa. She meets with voters at an assisted living community, and makes a plan for campaign volunteers to get the seniors out caucus sites in the evening. During the drive to Ames, Senator Clinton makes GOTV calls from the back of her car. Once in Ames, Senator Clinton meets with College Democrats at the University of Iowa and makes sure they have a GOTV plan, setting up rides from campaign staff for students without cars. She also holds a town hall at the Ames Public Library with Senator Harkin.

As the sun begins to set, Senator Clinton and Senator Harkin fly to Waterloo, Iowa for their final round of campaigning. They hold a large GOTV rally at the Waterloo Center for the Arts, where they're joined by Congressman Loebsack and Senator Stabenow. As caucusing begins, the Clinton Campaign moves to the Isle Casino Hotel in Waterloo to watch results come in.

Once the results of the caucus is clear, Senator Clinton, Senator Harkin, Congressman Loebsack, and Senator Stabenow drive to the Brown Derby Ballroom in Waterloo to meet with supporters.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 20, 2018, 04:45:17 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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Press Release.

Adam Carolla is lying about Governor Christie's records on Guns.

The latest ad by the Carolla campaign is a clear, and deliberate smear on the record, and views of Governor Christie. Governor Christie is not a supporter of 'gun grabbing', and does not want to take away the 2nd amendment rights of citizens.

Governor Christie has not signed any laws that would restrict New Jersey citizens access to firearms, and has made clear that his focus is on enforcing current gun laws against criminal gangs- as he did as US Attorney. The focus of Governor Christie policy on gun rights is to protect the rights of law abiding citizens to own firearms, whilst ensuring that Drug Cartels, Terrorists and those who wish to harm Americans, are not able to access firearms.

In 2010 Governor Christie even commuted the sentence of Brian Aitken, who was convinced for legally purchasing guns out of state. Not only has Governor Christie demonstrated his commitment to 2nd amendment rights, but has made clear throughout this campaign that he would appoint Supreme Court Justices, in the mold of Justice Alito, who will uphold the 2nd amendment.

It's hypocritical of Mr Carolla to attack Governor Christie over gun rights when Mr Carolla said ''I'm against semi-automatic and automatic weapons. I'm not an NRA guy by any stretch of the imagination.''

Mr Carolla cannot attack Governor Christie over guns, when he admits himself that he's against semi-automatic and automatic weapons.


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Christie blasts Carolla at Town Hall: 'I support the 2nd Amendment', blasts Carolla as a 'hypocrite'', who supports a position to the left of Hillary Clinton'

'Look, I would say that Mr Carolla should take that lying, hypocritical ad down, but I know that Adam doesn't need any help in getting his stuff taken off TV (crowd laughs).

It's a complete baloney ad. Look I've been clear in this whole campaign; my number 1 priority is to keep Americans safe. When I was a U.S prosecutor I had case after case on my desk where violent gangs, where cartels and were criminals had illegally used firearms to murder citizens, and law enforcement officers. We've seen it on our Southern Border after the Fast, and Furious case. It's sickening.

That's what my approach is based around. I'm a supporter of the second amendment. We allow conceal carried in New Jersey, I commuted the sentence Brian Aitken, who had convicted for bringing legally bought guns in the state and I've said to the legislature that I will veto attempts to create a gun registry in the state.

You know what makes people sick of politics is when you get these hypocritical attack ads. Now Mr Carolla will claim he's not a politician but god, he's starting to sound like someone who's been in Washington D.C his whole life (laughs).

Let's look at what he said last year in an interview, and I quote... ''I'm against semi-automatic and automatic weapons. I'm not an NRA guy by any stretch of the imagination.'' And he has the balls to question my commitment to the 2nd amendment? He's taken a position that is to the left of Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. He's a hypocrite, it's simple as that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 20, 2018, 05:58:45 PM
Carolla responds to Chris Christie in a a rally in Reno Nevada
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Mr Christie in his response basically confirmed that yes he is still for some sort of gun control *Crowd boos*
And you do know what a semi auto gun is right? The AR-15 is not some automatic rifle that is used in the milltary. It’s just another hunting and sport rifle right? I have seen and used it for target shooting.

I’m not saying oh we should legalize flamethrowers or Heavy machine guns I don’t think those are civilians friends.
What I am saying is I want to protect the rights for people to buy and own weapons that are legal that the Democrats want to restrict and ban.

*Crowd claps*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 21, 2018, 03:55:20 PM
Wesley for America: Iowa Caucus Schedule



”...Hello, Ames!!! You know what!? The candidates from both parties are coming to Iowa, making false promises, making false claims, lying, all to win your vote. Hell if I was an Iowa resident I couldn’t stand it. I’m going to tell you a secret- the political system is rigged against the common man. I hope that in November, we can change the course of the United States, for the better. Our campaign is really a revolution...”

Rally in Cedar Rapids, IA (Attendance: 17,633)

Rally in Des Moines, IA (Attendance: 21,334)

General Clark took until January 1st to relax with his family.

Fly to SD
Rally in Sioux Falls, SD (Attendance: 22,334):

”TBA”
Fly to WV

Rally in Charleston, WV (Attendance: 12,333)
Fly to IA
Rally in Cedar Rapids, IA (Attendance: 20,003)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on January 21, 2018, 10:49:56 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #4
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #5
In His Own Words, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #6
Why Are You Running?, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #8
Iowa's Choice, Airing in Iowa

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- Scene opens with clips of Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and Senator Tom Harkin -

HARKIN: I've worked with the Clintons over the course of my career. They're good people. They're caring people. They're regular folks from hardworking families, just like you and me, and they understand rural communities like Iowa. Hillary Clinton's got a strong head on her shoulders and she'll make the tough decisions in the White House. That's why Hillary Clinton is my choice.

- Scene shifts to clips of Hillary Clinton and Dave Loebseck -

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LOEBSACK: The Clintons have always been friends to agricultural communities like ours, here in Iowa. They've stood by America's farmers since Bill was Governor of Arkansas. Now, Hillary has a strong plan to support agriclutural communities across the country, by supporting farm-to-table local sourcing, fighting GMOs and Big Agriculture, and inceasing access to high-speed broadband access. That's why Hillary Clinton is my choice.

- Scene shifts to the Des Moines Register logo -

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NARRATOR: The Des Moines Register called Hillary Clinton "extremely steady", "well prepared for the duties of the job", and "uniquely qualified to hit the ground running." They applauded her "tough stances on crime, terrorism, and the economy." They called her "the best choice for Iowa."

- Scene shifts to Hillary Clinton campaigning across Iowa -

NARRATOR: Hillary Clinton -  the choice of Senator Tom Harkin, Congressman Dave Loebsack, the Des Moines Register, and many Iowans across the state. Make her your choice on Caucus Day.

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 21, 2018, 11:50:17 PM
Ernie Fletcher's Christmas Address
(I know I'm a turn late to this, just pretend it's on time)
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Public Address
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Before I depart from the campaign for Christmas, I'd like to wish everyone in this country a safe and happy Christmas. Even though this nation is going through done pretty rough times with rising gas prices, stagnant economy, etc, it's times like these where we can put most of that aside and celebrate time with family. I hope most Americans can enjoy that this Christmas. I have called off my campaign staff operations for the next few days so they can enjoy that. I wished every one of my campaign staff a Merry Christmas before they departed. Until then, the only people campaigning will be volunteers. Glenna & I will be spending the holidays in our home state of Kentucky. I sincerely wish you all a very Merry Christmas.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 22, 2018, 02:11:32 PM
Carolla campaigns in Des Monies Iowa on putting Amercia first
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What happen to putting Amercia First? It seems like for the almost two decade we have put other countries first rather than ours. Our government when it puts stuff in like NAFTA or any of these so called “Free trade” agreements in action turn out to help out other countries like China and Mexico. And whille corporations get ahead hard working Amercians fall back and get poorer.

As President we will put Amercia first and put in not a “New World Order” That plays world police but a “New Amercian Order” that plays let’s put Amercia First and no one else in that same position.

*Crowd cheers and shout Carolla*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 22, 2018, 11:52:44 PM
Feingold would spend time campaigning in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada as he endeavours to build a strong foundation for his future campaign. He also made several visits to the industrial States, looking to build support from blue-collar workers and union members. He also held rallies in Vermont and Ohio with Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown respectively. The three would hit speaking points related to trade, unions and the minimum wage, which Feingold says must be raised to $15 an hour.

(Sorry for the brief schedule. My personal tragedy has exacerbated itself.)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 23, 2018, 12:50:42 AM
Mike Huckabee: Fletcher is the "obvious choice for Evangelicals"
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Mike Huckabee: "It's pretty obvious that I've been very supportive of Governor Ernie Fletcher lately, and that's cause he's always been a person that gets the job done. That's what Ernie does, and I know because we worked together when we were both Governors. I sincerely just don't have a doubt when it comes to his work ethic. We need somebody with that kind of work ethic, and we need someone that's got a strong plan for economic recovery. I know Ernie when I say he's got a plan to do that. You've got someone that flipped a state that voted for Clinton twice and hadn't voted for a Republican governor in decades. We need someone who can perform that if we're going to win in 2012.

We need someone who can bring American values this election, someone who knows how business works, and how the healthcare system works to reform it. Ernie's been a preacher, a CEO, and a doctor. If anyone can bring that, it's him. He's a leader, not a divider. He's only focusing on the policies and the vision. Y'know, I'd love to be President too, and I think I could've had a pretty successful run in 2012, but I've got faith in Ernie to win and give us the recovery we deserve.

We need someone to represent Evangelicals, and sustain our religious freedom. Ernie's been a preacher, and knows exactly how that means to common, middle class people. He's the obvious choice for Evangelicals. I definitely, without a doubt, think he's going to represent them. I'm going to keep joining him on the campaign trail for the next couple weeks."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 23, 2018, 09:35:02 PM
Adam Carolla on Charlie Rose
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CR:Mr Carolla. Thank you joining us. Recently the Republican establishment has attacked us calling you a C list actor who doesn’t know what he is doing how do you respond?

AC:Well I rather be a has been actor than someone who is corrupt like the DC Swamp *he laughs* truth be told their  words don’t hurt. I’ve been called worse than a C or D list actor. You are called worse when you are not someone who supports Obama or wants Hillary Clinton or Biden to be elected this upcoming election. And people think all of Hollywood is like that and no it is not. There are outsiders who don’t obey the whole liberal stereotype of the city. We are kinda like rebels you know *He laughs again*

So no it’s gonna take more than insults like that to take me down.

CR:You have criticized President Obama’s but you said Hillary Clinton was worse please explain?

Well President Obama is weak and too easy to go against. Hillary Clinton there is so many levels of corruption and she will not stop till she becomes president. We can talk about the things she calls “conspiracy theories” however the list is too long and it would take days for them to name it all.

CR:What does your slogan a Different Kind Of Republican mean?

Well its because my candidacy is not a typical Republican campaign like Chrstie’s it’s something different. As a matter of that it’s difficult from a Bush or a McCain or anyone else.  I like to study how Ronald Reagan was able in 1980 to run and win with that such a different campaign than say Bush Nixon or Ford.

I’m not saying I’m the Ronald Reagan of 2012 granted there are similar things. Like his slogans from both the 1980 and 1984 campaign are both alike. We have both have slogans that strive a better Amercia in the current climate of the country. I think we are reliving the election of 1980 all over again and if history does repeat we are going to see something big.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 25, 2018, 11:52:44 AM
December 27th.

Christie holds early morning radio interview on WHO.

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Q. So Governor Christie, we're only days away from the Caucus, and I understand you're up early today to get ready to give a big campaign speech on your farming policy. Lots of folks here will be interested in that, so can you tell them what you're gonna do to support Iowan Farmers?

A.) Well you know, I was up at 5am this morning to meet with some farmers and to better understand the issues there facing. Mary-Pat, my wife keeps saying to me, you're Italian-Irish America, former lawyer... you need to stop spend all day talking. So I listened to the concerns that the farmers had, and it was eye-opening.

I was talking to a farm owner called John, just outside Des Moines who runs a working family farm; but they also opened parts up to tourists, and visitors to educate folks, and to make a bit of extra money. They said that 5-10 years ago this was a godsend, as they could talk to folks, employee people to run the visitor centre, and reach out to the community. But because of the recession, combined with the crippling increase in taxes we've seen they've had to close the visitors and education center. John told me how difficult it was, because he was laying off neighbors and friends who worked there, and he even said he felt like he was cutting himself off from the community. That's happening because of reckless, and poor decision making in Washington D.C and the White house.

I'll be laying out later today what I'd do to protect Iowa's farmers, but I think that John's message is one that I hope sticks with a lot of folk listening. If you want to stop this happening and if you want to stop small businesses from closing, we've got to elect someone who understands the pain our decisions can have on ordinary folks. I've made my campaign all about reaching out to folks, telling them the hard changes we're gonna have to do, and uniting folks around my promise to fight for them.''



Christie gives speech to Agricultural Summit: ''I'm on your side.''

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Speaking at an Agricultural Summit in Des Moines, Iowa, Governor Christie outlined his plan to protect Iowan Farmers, and told a full packed hall that 'I'll fight for you.''. Noting the importance of Agriculture for both Iowa's, and America's economy, Christie said that it was 'simply common sense' to support the the millions of Farmers in America. Christie outlined his philosophy in the speech as being 'rather simple... when the Government can offer something good, like the support for renewable fuels, I'll support it. When the Government get's in the way; like by stalling on the Keystone Pipeline, the overreaching of the EPA or the job-killing mandates of Obamacare I'll get it the hell out of the way.

Christie later launched an attack against EPA Director Lisa P. Jackson saying 'I saw the damage she did in New Jersey when she ran our state environmental protection division, she was just awful. When I became Governor I got someone in who was business friendly, someone who was prepared to work with everyone in the state to get a cleaner environment without slaughtering the economy.''

Christie also made a pledge to appoint to someone to the EPA, and Agricultural Secretary 'who had real world experience outside of the D.C Bubble' and said he was likely to appoint 'someone who knows the industry, someone who has worked in one of the state governments, these are the people who I'll trust.''

The Governor then laid out his 5 point plan to protect Iowa, and America's farmers, and ensure that they ''continue to be the beating heart of the American Economy.''

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5 ways to fight for Iowa's Farmers.

1.) Support the Renewable Fuel Standard to support Iowan Corn Farmers.

2.) Approve construction of the Keystone XL, and expand domestic energy production to lower fuel costs for Farmers.

3.) End the Obama Adminstration's EPA regulatory overreach, and appoint an individual with direct experience in state government to the EPA, and Agricultural Department.

4.) Repeal the Estate Tax, the Obamacare individual, and employee mandate, and reduce and simplify the tax brackets to lift the burden of taxation off Iowa farmers.

5.) Stop any attempt to universally mandate GMO labeling on all food products  


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 25, 2018, 03:31:15 PM
New Biden endorsements

Vice President Biden welcomes the endorsements of Jim Clyburn and Shelly Berkeley.

Clyburn will be campaigning in South Carolina, while Berkeley will be campaigning in Nevada.

In addition, the Vice-President is also honored to endorse Congresswoman Berkeley's campaign for Senate, as well as the Senate bids of Elizabeth Warren, Chris Murphy, and Richard Carmona.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 25, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
December 28th.

Christie gives an interview to Christian Radio Stations, Bott Radio and KSKB. 'I'm a principled fighter who can win''


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Q. Governor Christie it's great to have you here before the upcoming caucus next week.
We know here in Iowa that's lots of evangelicals will be turning out to caucus, and some of them may be a bit skeptical of you; a moderate governor from New Jersey. What would you say to them?


A.) It's great to be here, and I'm thankful I didn't have another 4am wake up, like yesterday when I meet with lots of the great family farmers here in Iowa.

I'd say to all voters in Iowa, especially evangelical voters that they can trust me on my record.
If you told the Teachers Union, or the Democratic bosses in New Jersey that I was a 'moderate' they'd laugh in your face- I'm not a moderate, I'm a principled conservative, who likes to get results. Some folks in the media just call me a moderate because there's some positions where I think that the establishment in both parties are wrong; such as on entitlement reform, and some times where I've worked across the aisle; such as with Newark Mayor, Cory Booker, to get a better school system for our kids in New Jersey. I'm proud of both those positions.

So to your listeners out there I'd just say that I've done a lot as Governor; I defunded planned parenthood, I rejected the re-nomination of a very liberal Supreme Court Justice in New Jersey and I've said in New Jersey that I'll veto any attempt by the legislature to impose same-sex marriage. It's about something bigger than just my actions as Governor; it's about my own faith. I know that God has been there throughout my life, through the bad times, like when my mother passed away, and through the good times, like the wonderful births of my children. I became pro-life when back in 1995, I heard my child's heartbeat in the doctors surgery when Mary-Pat was 13 weeks pregnant. I just knew after hearing that heartbeat that it was a life, and that no-matter what folks claimed, I couldn't remain pro-choice. I think like millions of Americans I changed my view after having kids.

To put it simply, the impression I've got from listening to lots of folks in Iowa is that they want three things; they want someone who can defeat Hillary Clinton, they want someone who bring the country together, someone who can stop the bickering and most importantly someone who won't sell out their principles. Look if I can do as much as I've done in New Jersey to fight for religiously minded folks, just think what I can do if I'm President. That's my pitch to the folks listening; I'm a principled fighter who can win.
 


Christie tells Iowans 'You can trust me to fight for your values''

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Look folks, I know a lot of people will say that I'm being overblown but when you go out and caucus next week, it will shape our country's future. People don't tend to think of politics in the the grand terms but the truth is it matters; if Iowa hadn't gone for President Obama in 2008 we would have had four even worst years with Hillary Clinton, if Ronald Reagan hadn't had his comeback in New Hampshire we wouldn't have had those 8 glorious years of moral leadership, it all matters.
 So that's why I'm here today, to tell you that your vote can save the American values we cherish.
 Values like religious tolerance, values like hard work, values like free enterprise, and values which promote a strong, and proud role for American Leadership around the world.

Heck, we almost know for a fact the next President will appoint a Supreme Court justice. And that Justice will shape the balance of the court, and our politics. Do we really want Hillary Clinton appointing another arch-liberal; who'll trample religious freedom, gut our 2nd amendment rights and continue to legislate from the bench? Of course we don't.

So our party frankly needs to nominate someone with three skills; the ability to run a successful national campaign and win, under constant attack from the Democrats friends in the Media, the ability to bring folks in country together, and finally the ability to carry out proper conservative reforms. I'll be frank with you folks; I'm the only person in this race who could do this. I always said that both Governor Romney and Governor Jindal, who both dropped out are dedicated public servants, with the experience and skills to win, and then lead as President.  I may have disagreed with them on issues, and they disagreed with me, but I knew they would be able to win.

I don't think frankly that the remaining candidates left in the race have the skills to either win, or to fight successfully, for conservative principles. So over the next week I'll keep pounding the streets to convince the folks of Iowa, that they can trust me to fight for our values.   

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Barbour at Sioux City Rally: 'I know that evangelical voters can trust Governor Christie'', labels the Governor as the 'the only candidate who can truly unite our party, and country .

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Look folks, as most of you know I'm Governor of the great state of Mississippi.... I was expecting a couple more cheers ya know, (crowd cheers and laughs). But I'm coming here as a citizen, concerned about my country. You know early this year, a group of great Iowa activists flew to New Jersey to try and persuade Chris to run. You know, after being in politics for a while you get a bit cynical, but by god, that filled me with joy. This is what our country is all about.

It's about a group of citizens coming together and saying; look we have different views, and different ideas but we agree that we need to fix things. This is why the caucus is so great; it's about citizens coming out and picking who our great party will nominate for President. It's an almighty choice, and I know that folks in Iowa still have a lot of questions.

I've seen lots of folks in the media suggest that Chris may not win the caucuses because the evangelical community won't turn out for him. That's a load of nonsense isn't it? (crowd cheers   

I know that Governor Christie is a consistent fighter for the evangelical community. He's a man of deep faith, a man committed to his family, a man who has spend his life keeping America safe from radical Islamic terror, and a man who bring our great party together, and defeat Hillary Clinton.

Just look at what he's been able to do in New Jersey; he's balanced a budget, he's fixed the pension system, he's defunded planned parenthood, and he's worked to fix the school system. Look at what he's stopped; he's vetoed tax rises, he's put terrorists behind bars, he's blocked liberal Judges. This was all in one of the most democratic states in the nation. Just think, if Chris can do this in New Jersey, he'll be able to fight and win as President of the United States.

Now I know that if we help Chris get to the White House, he's gonna be an advocate for conservative caucuses. I know for a fact that evangelical voters can trust Chris. But if we want to beat Hillary Clinton, and get a real principled conservative, who has the experience, the skills and the ability to bring our great nation together, then you gotta get out and caucus for him. (Crowd Cheers)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 25, 2018, 06:48:37 PM
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Carolla speaks to a evangelical audience in Iowa
January 4th 2012
Now we have our differences however as President I will fight for you. I will fight for your freedom to practice your religion and I will stop the savages in the Middle East from taking over and destroying your culture. I will work with Israel and move the capital to  Jerusalem and protect you from attacks from  Palestine.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 25, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
Carolla Campaign update
After January 5th. Carolla went back home and took a break from campaigning. And started making videos over social media in order to target younger voters who he showed as the more Libertarian and more populist than Ron Paul.

Carolla also went back to his Radio Show in which he would pitch his campaign a bit into it too.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 26, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
Carolla releases tax returns

Adam Carolla has decided to release his tax returns just like any other Presidental candidate and to show that he is not hiding from anything and that there has been no wrong doing.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 26, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
December 29th

Governor Terry Branstad endorses Chris Christie for President.


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In a major campaign event just outside of Des Moines, Iowa, long-serving Republican Governor Terry Branstad endorsed Chris Christie for President. Governor Branstad made the following comments to a packed crowd at the event.

'You know folks lots of people have been asking me who I was gonna support. I'm use to it; I've seen lots of candidates come to Iowa over the years, some good, some not so good. But I'll tell you this was the first time I've seen Iowans go and find a candidate, and bring them here. (crowd laughs) We've got two of those great Iowa activists, Richard and Wendy in the front row. Back in august they flew all the way to New Jersey to convince Governor Christie to run for President and you know what they said.... Iowa needs a fighter. Iowa needs a champion, and Iowa needs Chris Christie. That's why today, I'm proud to endorse Governor Christie for President of the United States(crowd cheers)

I've always been a big fan of Chris, but I wanted to see how he would handle himself on the campaign trail, how he talked to the folks around Iowa, and frankly what ideas he had to fix our Economy. And you know what I've learnt in this campaign; Chris is someone who has the skills, the experience, the compassion and the energy to bring our Iowans together, to bring our nation and to sort of this great stinking mess in Washington.

He's the only candidate who's talked about protecting Iowan farmers. Now I could tell you that 85% of our land is used for farming, that we export over $10 Billion worth of agricultural products, but I know, and Governor Christie knows that here in Iowa we can see with our own eyes just how vital how agricultural business is. We've meet the folks who've had to close down businesses, we've made the folks who've been laid off, and we've meet the families struggling to make ends meet. Governor Christie supports the renewable fuel standard, he wants to get the EPA off our backs, and he wants to increase domestic energy production to get our fuel costs down. That sounds like a pretty good deal right?

I'm not just supporting Chris because he'll be the best for the citizens of Iowa, but because he'll be the best for every citizens of this great country. What can the democrats offer us? More regulations, more wasteful spending, more division, more chaos and more misery. It's time for change isn't it? Chris has a bold vision to offer to Americans, one that reaches beyond party lines, one which says, let's put our differences aside and lets do the job we're elected to do. Here in Iowa we don't make excuses, or just pray they'll go away, no... we get on with the job. That's what Chris has done in New Jersey; he fixed their underfunded pension system, he's worked across the aisle to fix their school system, and he passed two balanced budgets without tax rises.

That's the type of leadership Iowans need in Washington D.C. We need someone who can fight for us, who can keep our nation safe from radical Islamic terror, and we need someone to sort of this mess. There's only one guy who can do this. You've never let me down before Iowa, and you're not gonna start next week are you? (crowd cheers)

So we've gotta get out to caucus for Governor Christie haven't we? Let's send a fighter to the White House.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
December 30th

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Governor Branstad carries out a series of Television Interviews.

Q. So Governor Branstad, you've endorsed Chris Christie for President. Why did you wait this long to endorse a candidate?

A.) Well we've had a rather fast moving situation here in Iowa, we've had both Governor Jindal and Governor Romney drop out, both who campaigned heavily in the state and we've seen some folks who frankly I didn't expect to run, like Governor Fletcher. But I've always said I'm not here to act as Kingmaker- I just wanted to see who understood Iowa.

It's the joy of being the first state in the nation to vote; we don't base it on what the pundits say, we don't base it on who has the best TV Ads, or who has the richest campaign. We wanna listen to our leaders talk to us in our homes, in our diners and on our farms. We wanna make sure they understand issues like farming, we wanna makes sure they're authentic and that we can trust them.

And I'll say to the folks listening in Governor Christie as he toured our state I know that Iowans can trust him. Before he came to Iowa I knew he was a talented guy; you don't become a Prosecutor, and put terrorists behind bars without skill. But I wanted to make sure that Chris understood ordinary folks in Iowa, and frankly he's blown us away.

Q. What qualities is it, that stand out?

A.) Well look he the toughness, and resolve that frankly we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan. It doesn't matter who's he's up again, he'll stand up for his views. I know that some folks may disagree with him on certain issues, but look, folks don't want someone who they'll agree with 100% of the time. They want someone they know will wake up in the morning, and ask 'what good can I do today? How can I help people?''

I think looking at the current field Governor Christie is the only candidate who has won a statewide race in the last 5 years; he's won in a deep blue state when our nation is pretty divided. He's shown he can stand up against the millions of dollars of attack ads from the big unions, and he's shown that he can govern. We need someone with this sort of experience.

What about the other candidates? Did you consider endorsing anyone else?

Look, I'm not here to attack other candidates. We've a range of folks running; some who've never held public office, some who've spent a long time in the House and some who haven't been involved in national politics for a while. It's good to have variation, but the difference is that Governor Christie is the only candidate who can unite our party, bring Iowans together, defeat Hillary Clinton, and then carry out some of the real changes we need to get our economy booming. It's simple as that.



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Christie Town Hall in Iowa City: 'I've stood up in court to put terrorists behind bars, I'll uphold the laws of this nation.

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Responding to a question about his judicial philosophy, and his approach to upholding the laws of the United States, Governor Christie gave the following answer...

'Look, it's simple. When you swear in as President of the United States, and put your hand on the bible you take an oath to uphold the constitution, and enforce the laws of the United States. It's personal for me; I've stood up in court and put terrorists behind bars. I've prosecuted corrupt, and crooked politicians growing fat from the public purse, and I've stopped criminal gangs, sex offenders and every manner of criminal out there. You can't pick and choose what laws you uphold.

There's nothing worse than politicians who try and get around the law; cause frankly when folks see politicians stealing millions of dollars of public funds, when they see them handing out jobs to their friends, and when they see them covering up after themselves. No wonder so many people are sick of politics.

So here's what I'd do. On Day one I'd get rid of Eric Holder, and get a Attorney General in, who actually understands counter-terrorism, and who understands counter-terrorism. I mean if President Obama had any respect for the law he would have sacked him when the fast and furious scandal came out.

I'll make sure that we secure our southern border by funding 10,000 more border agents, and allowing the FBI, DEA and AFT to embed units into the border patrols. I'll get funding up and going again for real border security, and I'll work with our Mexican Allies, who have an interest in keeping the border secure as well.

The next thing I'd do is make sure that if I get to appoint someone to the Supreme Court, that I'll pick someone who is in the mold of Justice Alito, and not appoint another liberal rubber stamp. Cause we know that what Hillary Clinton is gonna do. The Supreme Court Justices can shape entire generations of our politics, and we need judges on the court who respect the constitution, and who understand limited government.

I'll also not be afraid to use the laws like the Patriot ACT, to ensure that Americans are kept safe.
Now I now some folks in this campaign, like Ron Paul and Adam Carolla have attacked me for supporting the Patriot Act, but it's been upheld by the Supreme Court, and it's been re approved by Congress numerous times


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Governor Christie touts tax cuts in Rural Town Hall outside Iowa City.

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I'm the only candidate in this race who's been clear about how I'd sort out our tax code; I'd cut it down to 3 individual tax bands, I'd get rid of the estate tax, I'd lower corporation tax to 25% to attract the best and brightest businesses to Iowa, and I'd get young people to work by getting rid of payroll tax for those under 22.

This would cut taxes for everyone, and it would get our economy booming again. Along with getting rid of the Obamacare taxes, this can be the first step into getting some energy back into our economy. It's gonna be great for rural economies across America if we get the government off their back, out the way and allow citizens to decide where there dollars go, rather than the federal government. Because we've seen in New Jersey that once the Government gets it's hand on more and more taxes, it only leads to more and more spending, and you can guess how this cycle continues.

So if you want to get a tax cut, and get our economy booming, you've got to come and caucus for me. I'm the only guy running who's got a clear plan to cut, and simplify the tax code. 



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 27, 2018, 01:01:39 PM
Adam Carolla campaign ad that shows why his tax plan is the best
Airs in all 50 states
I’m Adam Carolla and I approve this message.
Voiceover:All candidates have said that they will cut taxes however only one has said he will have a cut to every single one.
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And that person is Adam Carolla.  Carolla will fight to cut the federal income tax but after will cut and gut taxes like the 911 service tax, Medicare Tax, Marriage Income Tax, The Gas Tax, The Sewer Tax and the The tanning Tax.  As President Carolla will cut deeply cut and gut all hidden taxes and fees and give Amercians more freedom.

Choose a Different Kind Of Republican choose Adam Carolla


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
December 31st-January 1st.

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Governor Christie started his day by holding a meet and great with factory workers in Des Moines to talk about his plans for the Economy, and how he would work use his plans to both cut taxes, and repeal Obamacare to ensure that high quality jobs are created in America. Governor Christie also promised to clamp down on tax breaks for firms that outsourced manufacturing jobs.

Governor Christie spend the remainder of the day carrying out Town Hall events until 4PM with his wife Mary Pat, after which he traveled to attend a New Years party with Governor Branstad and his wife Christine. Governor.

Governor Christie will spend New Years Day with his family, and will call his caucus organizers and precinct captains for a serious of conference calls before the Caucus. He will also carry out a series of outreach phone calls to supporters of both Governor Jindal and Governor Romney.

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Comments on the New Year.

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I was told to resist the big grand statements about this year ending, but ya know I think it's been a pretty testing year for Iowans, and for all Americans. We've seen Congress completely fall flat on it's face trying to sort out the deficit, we've seen a President give up on running for re-election because he knew he was out of ideas, and we've seen Hillary Clinton emerge as the Democratic front-runner.

But ya know, I think in years to come we can allow 2011, and 2012 to be the years in which the American people said enough. Enough with the games, enough with the endless talking, and enough with this spluttering economy. I've spend the last four months going around Iowa, and it's been one of the best things I've done in 2011, it's been great to meet with the farmers, the factory workers, the mums on the school run, and all the great people here in Iowa. The one message I've taken from 2011 is that the American people want someone who gets on with the Job. Cause that's what you do in Iowa isn't it? You get on with the job. Wouldn't it be great to have a President who could do that? Well you can guess what I'm gonna say next (crowd laughs) You're gonna have to come and caucus for me on the 3rd of January. Let's start 2012 with some good hope. '' 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 02:52:49 PM
January 2nd

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Christie meets campaign staffers and Volunteers

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Governor Christie begun the final day of his campaign with an early call to his campaign HQ in Des Moines. Joined by Governor Terry Branstad, and his wife Mary Pat, Governor Christie brought coffee and doughnuts for his campaign staff, and gave a passionate pep talk to his campaign staff telling them 'they needed to bring there A-Game tomorrow'' and reminded staffers and volunteers that his campaign is 'fighting the good fight. My entire campaign has been about a simple message, who will fight for the American people?''

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Christie holds tele-town hall in Cedar Rapids. Tells voters to send a message - 'put me one on one with Hillary Clinton'

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Tomorrow Iowa has a change to send a message. It's pretty clear what message the Democrats are going to do; they're going to nominate Hillary Clinton. They're going to send a message that they're completely tone deaf. But I didn't go into politics to help the Democratic Party-
 I went into politics to fight for ordinary Americans.

So Republican voters have a choice; who do we want to put up against Hillary Clinton? We need someone who has a record of coming under attack from the democratic establishment, and it's allies in the Media. The unions alone spend $3 million trying to defeat me in New Jersey- they failed.
 We need someone who has a record of reaching out to a whole range of folks- I did that in New Jersey by reaching out to African-Americans and Hispanics, by discussing real issues like education reform. We need someone who can demonstrate they've got the experience needed to be commander in chief; I've served as a U.S prosecutor, I've got the endorsement and support of a whole range of dedicated Governors, and Senators across America and I've worked on tackling big issues in New Jersey like Pension reform.

Finally, after doing all this, and winning in November, we need someone who can bring real reform in Washington D.C. Cause I have to be honest; campaigning is the easy part. What's hard is having to work with people like Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, who've been playing this game for years. They're not just gonna roll over; we need someone who can fight for our conservative values.

But this all starts tomorrow in Iowa; if someone like Ron Paul wins the Caucus, it's gonna send a pretty clear message. It's gonna tell the Democratic party that we're thinking of nominating someone who believes that Heroin should be legal, someone who thinks that 9/11 was our own fault and that proposition should be legal (crowd boos)

If we nominate someone like Ron Paul, then can we really be sure that we're even going to come close to beating Senator Clinton? So that's why tomorrow when you go and caucus you have to remember these three simple things. One- who can unite our party? Two- who can defeat Hillary Clinton and Three- who can carry out real conservative reforms?

If you want someone who can do all three then please go and out and caucus for me, get your neighbors to caucus for me, get your friends to caucus for me. There is nothing that will bring me more joy than if you go and caucus for me, and allow me to to go one on one against Senator Clinton, because believe me, we're gonna be heading for a republican victory this November.

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Christie holds joint town hall with Governor Terry Branstad. Tells voters 'it's time for America to fight back''.


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'The most moving moment I've has as I traveled around Iowa was when I meet with a small family farmer who had to lay off a lot of his workers, and close the visitor centre to his farm, because of the ridiculously high tax bill that he got from employing 56 people. You know what he said 'I just want someone who cares''. He had to go to his neighbors and to his friends, and tell them that he couldn't afford to pay them, because of a decision made in Washington D.C to slap more and more taxes on employees when the economy is already faltering. It's sickening. It's easy when you're sat in D.C to forget that every decision matters, every decision has an impact and every decision you make will change lives.

I told that farmer called John, that the first thing I'll do if I'm elected President is sort out the tax code, get rid of the job-killing Obamacare mandates and make the entire tax system much simple, and much more fair. But I said him to that I'll remember his story, and I'll remember what I've learnt here in Iowa. I've learnt that there are times when Government needs to get the hell out the way, and there's times when folks need support; like with the Renewable Fuel Standard which supports rural jobs, and promotes energy independence.

Because at the end of day, as Governor Branstad has said many times, the people of Iowa just want someone who get's on with the job. Heck that's what all Americans want; no-one apart from Nancy Pelosi enjoys listening to the constant bickering in Washington, the constant excuses, the constant hot air. What the American people want is someone who'll fight for them; because they're sick of looking around, and seeing collegues laid off, businesses closing down and an America that is retreating from the world. So you know what, it's time for America to fight back.

The only way that's going to happen is if you come and out and caucus for me.''


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 04:45:46 PM
Ad 1, Get to Work: Airing in Iowa.

(Narrators Voice) Every Morning in Iowa, we get up and go to work.

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We don't wait for someone to tell us to go to work, or tell us how to work our land.

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We just get on with the job

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Don't you wish we had politicians who did that?

Well, now we do...

Chris Christie was the first U.S Attorney appointed after 9/11.

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He got up every day to keep Americans safe from radical Islamic terror.

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He prosecuted the Fort Dix terrorists, who tried to kill American Soldiers in New Jersey.

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He put corrupt, and crooked politicians like Sharpe James behind bars.

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And as Governor of New Jersey, he's balanced two budgets without raising taxes, he's fixed a broken pension system, and worked across party lines to raise educational standards

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Now he's running for President. Wouldn't it be great to have someone in the White House who knows how to do an honest days work?
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Cuts to Chris Christie talking at a town hall... 'I'm running for President because I believe that we need a new type of politics in this country. We need to stop the bickering, stop the arguing and stop the silly point scoring, and come together to fix our problems. I'll get both Democrats and Republicans to sit down, and pay down our nations debt, get rid of our deficit and fully fund our military. We don't need someone who's spend years in Washington D.C, or someone who's great at giving lectures- we need someone who can go to Washington D.C and fight. We need someone who knows how to get results. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 05:23:39 PM
Ad 2: Farm Friendly. Airing in Iowa.

(Governor Terry Branstad talking) Here in Iowa, farms are the beating heart of our state.

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That's why I'm supporting Chris Christie for President. As Governor of Iowa I know that we need someone who's farm friendly, and we can count on Chris Christie to fight for Iowan Farmers.

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Chris Christie supports the Renewable Fuel Subsidy, which gives vital support to Iowan farmers, promotes rural jobs and provides cheap, secure energy for millions of Americans.

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He also wants to cut taxes for working families so that we can our economy booming again, and will get the EPA off our backs to allow businesses, and farms to grow.

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On the 3rd January I'll be caucusing for Chris Christie because he's only candidate who's fighting for Iowa's farms.

He also knows how to grill a pretty mean steak.
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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 05:47:31 PM
Ad 3: Family Matters.
Airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada.

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Camera pans to Mary-Pat and Chris Christie talking at dinning room table.

When we got married in 1986, we knew we wanted kids, and we knew we wanted a big family. It just always seemed right.

It's been an absolute joy for us, even if it is sometimes a bit chaotic (both laugh). You haven't seen chaos since you've seen the Christie school run.It's kept us both grounded though; no matter what happens at work you can always come home, and unwind. Even if the kids don't want to talk to us sometimes (Mary-Pat chuckles)

(Chris starts talking) It's why it hurts us both when we see so many families out there suffering, because we both know how precious the family is. It's the foundation of America.

That's why we need to do everything possible to support American families. I want to cut taxes for all American families so that they can focus on providing for their kids, not on providing for Washington D.C's out of control spending. I'll help families get high-quality health insurance by expanding tax credits, not by forcing them to take costly health plans. And finally I'll get the government out of the way so that we can get our economy booming again.

No matter what happens in this campaign I know my family will be here to support me. And no matter what happens in the future, know that I will always support American families.

I'm Chris Christie, and I endorse this message for every family out there.





Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on January 27, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
Ad 4: Uphold the Law. Airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida.
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''The most important task of the President is to uphold the law of the United States. When you put your hand on the bible, you're taking an oath to follow, respect and uphold every law.

I understand the power of the law after serving as a U.S prosecutor, where I put both terrorists, and corrupt politicians behind bars. That's why I'll take my oath to defend, and uphold the Constitution seriously.

I'll appoint Judges who are both qualified in the law, and who take a limited view of government power.

I'll appoint an Attorney General who has real-life experience both in the courtroom, and in prosecuting counter-terror cases.

I'll secure our Southern border by recruiting new border agents, and by funding new hi-tech security measures to monitor our borders.

And I'll protect the 2nd amendment rights of citizens to own firearms.

It's time we had a President is prepared to defend our nations laws.

I'm Chris Christie and I endorse this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on January 27, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
A Breaking Announcement from Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta in Monterrey,CA:

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”...Hello Monterrey!!! If you don’t know, I was born here. My roots are in this town, and in this state. I was raised here, studied here, and learned about the world here. I served many terms in the House of Representatives, I was Chair of the House Budget Committee, Director of the OMB, the White House Chief of Staff, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and the current Secretary of Defense. Our nation is at a crucial turning point. We’re in full Election mode. You can see it everywhere, campaign ads and everything, ugh I hate it. I’m a former Republican. I’m still a current democrat, but I’ll get back to you on that. I switched parties because I thought the Democrats were rational. I can’t say that anymore. I’ve assessed both fields of candidates, and the Democrats just aren’t ready, or don’t care, they’re playing partisan politics. The Republicans are self explanatory, they’re just plain nutjobs. I don’t know what will happen to our country if we elect some of these madmen, but I’ve found a candidate that I can out my trust in. General Wesley Clark is by far, the best choice for our country. I, as an American citizen, have the right to make my voice heard. I don’t care if the party establishment doesn’t like that, I’m very experienced, I know what I’m talking about, and please vote for Wesley Clark this November. Thank you...”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 28, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
"The Candidate You Can Trust"
Ernie Fletcher's 5th Television Ad
Aired in South Carolina, Iowa and Maine

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher

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(pardon the extremely pixelated image)

"What I believed back in the 90s"





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"is that our country leader's spend too much time working to divide rather than to serve"





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"And that we must focus on getting the job done rather than this useless rhetoric, and in Congress, I spent every day to get the job done."





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"Today, I couldn't be more outspoken that this country needs some real leadership that sticks to their values. I'm tired of the talking, let's win the future."





I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 28, 2018, 08:13:42 PM
Final Carolla campaign update
After resting Carolla returned to Iowa and campaigned in Iowa City and Des Monies with Donald Trump.

Carolla went out on his GOTV speech by saying that just because Christie has all the top endorsements and donors that doesn’t make him the better candidate.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 29, 2018, 08:08:32 AM
"Iowa"
Ernie Fletcher's 6th Television Ad
Aired in Iowa (obviously)

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Ernie Fletcher: "What choice do Iowans have in this election? The first one in the nation. One that will set the path for this election for the next 11 months. "





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"My name is Samuel, and I'm a Farmer in Iowa. I'll be caucusing for Ernie Fletcher on January 3rd because I need someone who I know will stand up for people like me"





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"My name is Wallace. Earlier today, I donated $30.00 to the Ernie campaign, and I will caucus for him on January 3rd because I have faith he can leave my grandchildren with a very good future."





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"My name is Margaret, I'm a volunteer for the Ernie campaign in Iowa. I'm a Senior at Davenport Central High School, and I'm going to caucus for Ernie on the 3rd of January. He's very genuine, and I think that he can genuinely lead and bring change."





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"I'll be caucusing for Ernie Fletcher on January 3rd. My name is Johnathan. I'm a preacher at Johnston Evangelical Church, and he, being a preacher, is someone I know will stand up for my values"





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"My name is Rick, and I served in Vietnam. I make a living on a small business in Iowa, and I'm going to caucus for Ernie Fletcher on the 3rd because I know he'll put my interests above what Washington wants"



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I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 06:31:01 PM
Walter Jones Schedule: December 26-January 3

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December 26
-Barnstorming in Newton, IA
-Barnstorming in Clinton, IA
-Barnstorming in Fort Dodge, IA
-Rally in Ames, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Waterloo, IA

December 27
-Barnstorming in Coralville, IA
-Barnstorming in Muscatine, IA
-Barnstorming in North Liberty, IA
-Rally in Ankeny, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Cedar Rapids, IA

December 28
-Barnstorming in Bettendorf, IA
-Barnstorming in Ottumwa, IA
-Barnstorming in Clive, IA
-Rally in Sioux City, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Des Moines, IA

December 29
-Barnstorming in Dubuque, IA
-Barnstorming in Marion, IA
-Barnstorming in Urbandale, IA
-Rally in West Des Moines, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Sioux City, IA

December 30
-Barnstorming in Knoxville, IA
-Barnstorming in Storm Lake, IA
-Barnstorming in Indianola, IA
-Rally in Davenport, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Council Bluffs, IA

December 31
-Barnstorming in Clinton, IA
-Barnstorming in Mason City, IA
-Rally in Iowa City, IA
-Interview with Fox News
-Voter Registration Drive in Cedar Rapids, IA

January 1
-Barnstorming in Johnston, IA
-Rally in West Des Moines, IA
-Rally in Ankeny, IA
-Voter Registration Drive in Des Moines, IA

January 2
-Rally in Sioux City, IA
-Rally in Davenport, IA
-Rally in Cedar Rapids, IA
-Rally in Des Moines, IA
-Interview with CNN

January 3
-Implementing GOTV statewide in Iowa
-Attending random caucus sites in urban and rural areas
-Various interviews with local Iowa stations
-Election Night Party in Des Moines, IA



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Des Moines Register Endorses Walter Jones for President

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Congressman Walter B. Jones is uniquely qualified to be the next President of the United States in these times. With a staggering economy, multiple international crises, a lack of trust in American institutions, Mr. Jones has shown the Republican electorate--and the nation--a new way to go forward from the malaise of the Obama administration. Mr. Jones is known as a man of integrity who is universally respected among his peers in Congress. He has shown both humility and leadership from his lesson learned in Iraq. Jones advocates a realist approach to foreign policy focused on rebuilding America rather than hostile nations abroad. He is a man of tremendous faith, guided by Christian principles throughout his life, and would create a humbler environment in the White House compared to the past few presidents. His candidacy is one that stands out, and which offers a clear contrast to the liberalism of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

We at the Des Moines Register urge Iowans to caucus for Congressman Jones on Tuesday, January 3rd.


The endorsement will be heavily emphasized in campaign messaging and in local radio ads across Iowa leading up to the caucus.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 29, 2018, 06:52:56 PM
"Selfless"
Ernie Fletcher's 7th Television Ad
Aired in All Early Primary & Caucus States

Narrated by Former Lt. Gen. Terry Gabreski

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"I served for our country on the frontlines, in the air force. I'm very proud of my service, being one of the first women to become a Lieutenant General."





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"In the Air Force, we didn't work for medals. We got the job done."





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"They did it because they cared more about duty than glory. They didn't hesitate. They acted selflessly."





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"One of those soldiers is Ernie Fletcher, he was stationed in Alaska serving as a F-4E Aircraft Commander."

"He was awarded the Outstanding Unit Award because Ernie acted selflessly. Putting his country's interests above his own."


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"If there was anyone I would want to lead the country, it would be Ernie because he's got the guts to lead this nation. He represents selflessness."




I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
Surrogates for Jones: Iowa Caucus

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Sarah Palin

Woohoo, Iowa! Caucus day is here, and ya know what that means? A bunch of these good-for-nothin' politicians are gonna be barnstorming and raising a ruckus, begging for your votes. How many votes do they really deserve, though? These folks have been causing the problems in Washington we average Americans are dealing with! Christie won't help ya, and Fletcher won't either. They're part of the swamp. But my man Walter Jones is the right kind of guy!

Walter is gonna take care of our proud men and women in the forces. He'll put an end to crony capitalism and Washington as we know it! He's just a fellow with tremendous character, and he'll put a stop to Obama and Hillary and all the rest of 'em! Can ya ask for anything better than that? So, go out there and caucus for Walter Jones, people!


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Bobby Jindal

You know, when I ran for President earlier, it was to advance true conservative principles. Now isn't the time for me, but I decided to back someone who shared my ideals. That's why I'm strongly behind Congressman Jones. I look at Walter's record and he's got principle like no one else running. He's been for low taxes, lower spending, repealing Obamacare, and taking care of veterans. He's also a man of faith, you know. Politicians ordinarily don't really preach the word of God, but Walter Jones does, ladies and gentlemen. He's a Christian through and through, and he'll work to advance pro-life and pro-marriage principles in the White House.

I've been doing my part to making sure that this campaign goes full steam ahead. For all of my past supporters, I say this: If you live in Iowa, go out there for Walter Jones on Tuesday. Let's show Washington that they're about to have a big surprise on their hands.


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Steve King

Everyone's been wondering: When am I gonna endorse someone? *laughs* Well, that time is finally here, and I'm firmly behind my colleague in the House, Walter Jones. He's just a gem of a person and I know this from working with him. Not only is he a conservative, but he's an honest one. He cares about this country deeply and that's why he's running for President, not to advance his career or get a big payout from lobbyists.

As you all know, one of my big issues is border security and immigration, and I can tell you this: Congressman Jones is the toughest candidate out there by far on the border. He'll put a stop to illegal immigration, clamp down on these gangs from Mexico and other countries, and fix our broken immigration system so it actually protects Americans. He's an exceptional candidate on all of the important issues.

Iowa is dear to my heart. I'm proud to represent the people of my district. Now, I tell everyone in my district and in the rest of Iowa to go out there and caucus for someone who will truly represent Iowa values. Walter Jones, January 3rd. I'll be there.


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Michele Bachmann

Walter's a good friend of mine and he's a terrific Congressman. I say this as someone who's harsher on people in Washington like no other. But what makes Walter different is that he's really out there looking for you, the American people. He's a candidate for the people, by the people, and of the people. He won't listen to these government bureaucrats or lobbyists tell him what to do. He's fiercely independent and he'll put a stop to the big government spread by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

For all you Tea Party people out there too, hear me out. Walter Jones is the right man for you. He'll put a stop to this rising national debt. He'll cut taxes and repeal the monstrosity known as Obamacare. Most importantly, he'll put America first in every decision he makes. We've got to be organized this election and find the right candidate for November. That means we can't pick a Chris Christie, Ron Paul, or Ernie Fletcher. Walter Jones is the only man who can win in November and actually get conservative principles done.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 07:20:05 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Faith

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I am a Christian.

This means more than words. This means I must stay true to my family, friends, neighbors, and God.

I count on the Lord to show me the right path in life. Though I may not always know what's ahead, I'm bounded by my trust in Him.

I try to serve God every day of my life, no matter what I do. I am not perfect. I have sinned. But, I try to repent and hope that I can reverse the pain I have caused others.

This is the philosophy of my life. It's been true as a husband, a father, a businessman, and a Congressman. If I'm elected President, I will be the same in the White House.

I will serve according to my faith.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 07:34:53 PM
Walter Jones Ad: People of Iowa

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These are the people of Iowa.

These are hardworking people. People who care for their families. People who go to church. People who help out in their communities.

These are people who know that change in Washington is needed. That's why they're supporting Walter Jones for President.

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"Walter Jones is the only guy out there who really cares about people like me! All these politicians talk a good game, but he's out there stumping for the average guy. He's lived out here on these farms and he knows our struggle."

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"Walter Jones respects our troops. He knows the cost of war back here, even in little Iowa. Who else talks about these issues the way he does? I served in World War II, and every veteran out there knows the struggle we have to face. A President Jones would take care of veterans like we deserve."

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"Walter Jones would make sure farmers and small business owners like myself actually get the help they deserve. We've been strangled for too long out here from politicians who only care about our votes. Why don't we elect someone who actually means what he says the way Congressman Jones does? Then we get actually see this country get better!"

All of these Iowans agree: Walter Jones is the right choice for them.

I'm Walter Jones and I approve this message.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
Walter Jones Campaign GOTV Strategy: Iowa

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Sensing momentum, the Jones campaign is going all in on Iowa. All of Jones's surrogates have been barnstorming the state over the past week, as well as accompanying the candidate in each of his last rallies. To separate Jones from the rest of the pack, the campaign has pushed the crucial endorsements of the past month: Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal from the Republican field, and particularly Congressman Steve King and the Des Moines Register from Iowa. Palin and Jindal have wooed conservative voters (especially from the Tea Party) relentlessly, and King has canvassed the state appealing to Iowans through a home state effect. The endorsement of the newspaper also has been pushed to demonstrate the campaign's increasing credibility.

The campaign has been relying on its powerful grassroots effort as well as its many small donors to propel the Iowa campaign in the final stretch. A heavy focus on on-the-ground organizing has been built over the past few months, and the campaign now hopes to see its efforts come into fruition. In urban areas, college students and the 18-34 demographic are being targeted. Rural areas are a strong focus as well, as appeals to farmers, veterans, and Evangelicals have created a strong coalition for Jones. Through all of the hard work, the Jones campaign hopes to out-organize all of the other campaigns.

Ultimately, the Jones campaign sees a large opportunity to come from behind and win the Iowa caucus. Congressman Jones has been devoted 100% to campaigning in Iowa in order to reach this goal. The following are other general actions taken by the Jones campaign for Iowa:

-Present Jones as the populist candidate of the Tea Party
-Show a strong focus on immigration, being the only candidate talking about securing the border and stopping the flow of immigration
-Campaign alongside Steve King across the state for a home state effect
-Promote the endorsements of Palin and Jindal to skeptical conservative voters
-Attack Christie as a creature of the establishment and reach out to his supporters through veterans issues
-Attack Fletcher for his corruption scandals and self-pardon, reaching out to his supporters through abortion, marriage, and his strong faith
-Reach out to soft Paul and Carolla supporters in areas where they poll poorly to Jones
-Barnstorming rural areas with not much outreach from other candidates, hoping to pull more votes away from competitors


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 07:58:18 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Our Troops

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These are the brave men and women who have sacrificed their lives for us in Iraq.

I honor them every day by keeping these pictures in my office.

These pictures remind me that when politicians in Washington make decisions, they often deal with life and death. It's up to us to make sure that they act responsibly, because when they don't, human lives are at stake.

I have written thousands of letters to the families who have lost these loved ones. There is no greater duty that I can think of than to let them know they're never alone.

We must not let our troops and their families down. We must fix our broken VA hospitals, improve the quality of healthcare, and lead them back into civilian life.

Although we can't change the past, the future is in our hands. It's our duty as Americans to take care of our veterans, for they are our brothers and sisters all under God.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on January 29, 2018, 08:13:06 PM
Final Iowa Rally

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Are we ready, Iowa? *cheers*

Are we going to vote? *cheers*

And are we going to win? *cheers*

The momentum is all with us now. We've made the establishment running scared. The polls have us close here in Iowa. We're now leading in South Carolina. We have the endorsements of wonderful conservatives like Governor Palin, Governor Jindal, and your own Congressman King.

Let us never forget that this campaign is about changing Washington for good. No longer will we stand by and let these politicians prosper while leaving the rest of us to dry. This is a campaign for you, the average American, and the average Iowan. A message as powerful as ours can't be stopped by big money. This is a grassroots campaign that's been powered by millions of small donations, and I thank each and every one of you from the bottom of my heart.

Here in Iowa, we're in it to win it. We have the message, we have the energy, and we have the voters. Now all we need to do is show up at the caucus place.

Thank you all, God bless this country, and go vote!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 29, 2018, 08:31:54 PM
Turn closed. Please refrain from posting, updates will come through the night.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 29, 2018, 08:46:45 PM
Fletcher shows up on the Jay Leno Show
12.30.11
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After nearly a day of full Iowa campaigning, Ernie Fletcher flew to California to appear on the Jay Leno Show. They spoke about potentially new campaign slogans, other campaign related things, and the New Year giving Ernie Fletcher good media coverage.

Ernie Fletcher ends the Year
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With the New Year ending, the election is finally turning to election year, and Ernie Fletcher had a blast with it. For the New Year, Ernie opened up his Campaign HQ in Dubuque, Iowa and held a party. Anyone who showed up was invited, and Ernie was there himself to give the New Year's Countdown. At the event, free coats, toboggans, and gloves were provided. Ernie even gave a 30-minute long speech about the New Year, and the press was definitely there to get some headlines. Thousands of people showed up to attend the event. This event could be potentially great for momentum to win Iowa on the 3rd.

Fletcher's campaign uploads "How to Caucus" video
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It's no secret that Iowa is a crucial part to the Republican Primary, so Ernie Fletcher's campaign advertised and uploaded a video learning how to Caucus for Ernie Fletcher. The video just goes over the basics necessary of requirements to caucus, some links, and what will happen during a caucus. The Campaign has been going all in on Iowa lately, hoping to pull out a win and gain momentum.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 29, 2018, 11:59:56 PM
Iowa Caucus, Part One:

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"And here we are at CNN, covering the final hours of campaiging before the results of the important Iowa Caucus start coming in. Most candidates are relying on either a victory or a very strong result to allow their campaigns to show their viability, and the fight for the state has been rather heated, more so in the Republican field than the Democratic one. Frontrunners Chris Christie and Hillary Clinton are noted for their strong, organized campaigns, although for both Iowa represents a danger as compared to New Hampshire, were both enjoy strong polling leads. The final exit poll is about to come in a few moments, so in the meantime let's see what some Iowa voters had to say today:"

Footage of several Iowa residents across the state:

Voter 1: Well I've been for Senator Feingold since the first day. I believed Obama back in 2008 and came up disappointment, and I think Russ is the sort of politician who understands what must be done. I wish he'd been more open about his proposals though, many of my friends have moved back to undecided after not seeing him much on the state...

Voter 2: I'm voting for Clinton and I'll even canvass for her today, come what may. She was unfairly treated just for being a female candidate back in 08', and she would have been much better than Obama. I like the president, but I wish he was as good as governing as he is at talking.

Voter 3: As an African American I can't tell you how proud I was of President Obama. Things have been tough for him, and he more than deserved a second term. It wasn't right for Hillary to put her ambition first and treat Obama so unfairly, so I'm voting Biden today.

Voter 4: I was interested in what that governor from Tennessee had to say. He seemed honest and direct, until he started with those stupid conspiracy theories Republicans are always on about. I sure don't like Hillary and Biden seems way too old and hopeless, so I've decided none of them gets my vote. I liked what General Clark had to say, so I might vote for him in November.

Voter 5: One of the things I hate about living in Iowa is that I have to hear all that babble from politicians every four years for months, and it drives me crazy. At least Christie cuts through the c-, sorry, speaks his mind, so he has my support. It's such a weak field I won't believe it if Christie doesn't win.

Voter 6: As an Evangelical voter I take values very seriously. I like seeing so many pro-life candidates, but that's not always enough. I need to know the guy I'm voting for is a man of true faith. It took a lot of time, but I think I've found my man in Governor Fletcher. Hadn't heard of him before, but he sure seems like a man of faith. Many from my family and friends are voting for him today as well.

Voter 7: I liked Mitt Romney, or at least what he had to say as candidate. With him gone, I think it was obvious to support Christie, he seems like a candidate who can actually win and not sound crazy. Plus the Governor likes him, and I think Terry Branstad knows how to pick a candidate.

Voter 8: Dr. Paul is the only choice! America needs something different, it needs a man who knows you absolutely cannot trust government to do the right thing. I voted for him back in 08', and I'm happy to see so many new people supporting Dr. Paul. I think we can win today!

Voter 9: I didn't know Walter Jones at first, I suppose he was just another of those Congressmen to me. But you know, he's grown on me. He seems really serious about representing the views of the Tea Party, and I was starting to get worried I wouldn't have a candidate to represent me when Palin quit the race. He better win tonight, I'm sick of voting for moderates.

Voter 10: Didn't knew who to vote for until I saw the Donald speak, and it was just so obvious how all the candidates were more of the same. I don't quite get what Carolla's deal is, but at least he hasn't been in Washington forever. I'll vote for him, if only to send a message to those politicians that they should start caring a bit more about what happens to America.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 12:11:25 AM
Iowa Caucus, Part Two:

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"The exit poll is just about ready, so what do we think about the campaign so far? Let's start by looking at the Democrats."

Pundit 1: Come on, we all know this is Hillary's race to lose. With Obama gone she can't lose this primary, and much less if her rivals are Vice-President Biden or Senator Feingold.

Pundit 2: You say that, but polls do show Clinton much weaker in Iowa than nationwide...

Pundit 1: So what? Her rivals blew it. Biden can't stop putting his foot on his mouth and going all "Phil Bredesen" on the campaign trail and Feingold is basically not a factor anymore.

Pundit 3: I disagree, and I think you're underestimating the resistance Clinton still creates. Lest we forget, she unseated a sitting President, and there's many Obama supporters angry out there. A poll released today even showed Joe Biden had rising support among many African Americans.

Pundit 2: Probably an outlier though, it's hard to see those voters resisting Clinton so much. After all, they would have voted for her in 08' if a candidate of the caliber of Obama wasn't there.

Pundit 1: You miss the point, the thing is that just being anti Clinton can't win you the nomination. It can make things problematic for Hillary, but you need a vision to win. Feingold's got one, but he can't win the primary, much less a General Election.

Pundit 3: Biden's got a vision too. At least we should agree that defending Obama's legacy is a credible message.

Pundit 1: Yeah, but where's that? He'd rather talk NATO or conspiracy theories, or something like that. America doesn't quite care about that.

"Let's talk predictions. Who wins Iowa and by what margin?"

Pundit 1: Not her best state, but her campaign was strong. I say Clinton beats Biden by six or seven points.

Pundit 2: Not entirely sure, but I would bet Clinton over Biden, but no more than two, three points of difference.

Pundit 3: I'm going to take a risk here, I say Biden wins by one. All those Feingold voters may defect to another candidate just to stop Clinton.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 12:24:36 AM
Iowa Caucus, Part Three:

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"And the Republicans?"

Pundit 2: That's a tough one. I see Christie winning the primary, but there's no telling whether the GOP electorate will not fall in love with another challenge.

Pundit 1: Sure, it's possible, but who? It's a weak field right now, losing so many candidates over the past weeks has drained them of actual talent.

Pundit 3: You say that, but there are many accomplished candidates in that field. I can disagree on some issues with Jones, or Paul, or Fletcher, but they have records, experience and shouldn't be counted out.

Pundit 2: Walter Jones seems to be attracting a lot of attention right now. Still, there is a question of whether it may be too late for him to win Iowa.

Pundit 1: True, Evangelicans have been more and more prominent as potential Fletcher supporters. I suppose he could pull off an upset there. Same goes with Jones with the Tea Party, or Paul with his libertarian crowd.

Pundit 3: How about Carolla?

Pundit 2: *Laughs* Let's be serious now, he isn't a real candidate for President.

Pundit 3: He very much is. Laugh if you want, but many Republicans like outsiders and he polls strongly in some places.

Pundit 1: Be as it may, he's not winning Iowa. Maybe a state or two along the line, but I'd wager on him remaining fifth.

Pundit 2: And the less said of poor Fred Upton the better.

Pundit 1: Agreed.

"Predictions then. Which Republican wins this caucus?"

Pundit 1: Christie by a nose. He then gets a landslide in New Hampshire.

Pundit 2: Christie surprises and breaks 30%. His campaign was very impressive these past days.

Pundit 3: Upset win by a challenger I say, but a very narrow victory. If I had to guess, Fletcher scores the upset thanks to Evangelical voters.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 12:32:39 AM
Iowa Caucus, Part Four:

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"I have to interrupt you there, we have our very own exit poll and a projection of how we think results will be. Remember that this is just an exit poll with a margin of error of 3%, and given the sheer closeness of several candidates the final results may vary somewhat from this poll. On the Democratic side, the exit poll predicts...

IOWA:

Hillary Clinton: 42%
Joe Biden: 37%
Russ Feingold: 21%

"That Senator Clinton would defeat Vice-President Biden by five points, 42 to 37 percent. On the Republican side, the exit poll predicts:

IOWA:

Chris Christie: 24%
Ernie Fletcher: 23%
Walter Jones: 21%
Ron Paul: 19%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Fred Upton: 1%


"Well, that's a close result. It would predict a narrow Christie win over Fletcher with Jones in a strong third place, but the margin of error is large enough to allow for the possibility of even Ron Paul coming out on top.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 08:10:03 PM
Iowa Caucus, Part Five:

"It's been a long night, and we can finally deliver our final results. When it comes to the Democratic side and after a tighter result than our exit poll predicted, Senator Hillary Clinton will defeat Vice-President Joe Biden:

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Democratic Iowa Caucus:

Hillary Clinton: 40.83% (25)
Joe Biden: 38.61% (21)
Russ Feingold: 20.56% (10)

Democratic Primary:

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Delegates:

Hillary Clinton: 25
Joe Biden: 21
Russ Feingold: 10

Superdelegates:

Hillary Clinton: 7
Joe Biden: 4
Russ Feingold: 1

"And in the Republican side of the night, it's Governor Chris Christie who pulls ahead, followed by Ernie Fletcher in second and Walter Jones in a strong third place:

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Republican Iowa Caucus:

Chris Christie: 28.15% (19)
Ernie Fletcher: 22.97% (5)
Walter Jones: 20.47% (2)
Ron Paul: 18.56% (2)
Adam Carolla: 9.27%
Fred Upton: 0.58%


Republican Primary:

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Delegates:

Chris Christie: 19
Ernie Fletcher: 5
Walter Jones: 2
Ron Paul: 2
Adam Carolla: 0
Fred Upton: 0


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 30, 2018, 08:25:48 PM
CAMPAIGN STATEMENT FROM THE CAROLLA FAMILY
We congratulate the winners however we felt like we were disappointed with tonight’s results.
However Carolla will fight on to the very end and he thanks the people who voted and supported him tonight.
See you in New Hampshire!!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
Turn Six: We're off on the road to New Hampshire:
January 4th to January 10th, 2012

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In the News!

Frontrunners survive Iowa
Both Clinton and Christie face commanding leads in New Hampshire

Do challengers have what it takes?
Biden, Jones and Fletcher show promise, but can they find a springboard?

Chief of Staff stands down
William Daley leaves the White House, replaced by Jack Lew

1.- Turn: This weekly turn covers the New Hampshire Primary, also subject to increasing momentum swings. There will be a debate for each party held in NH, which will have an impact on the results. Good luck!

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 46%
Generic Democrat: 43%
Wesley Clark: 7%
Undecided: 4%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Chris Christie: 32%
Walter Jones: 21%
Ernie Fletcher: 20%
Ron Paul: 14%
Adam Carolla: 10%
Fred Upton: 1%
Undecided: 2%

Republicans: Christie on the lead

Even though Chris Christie faced increasing fire from other candidates, an extremely effective campaign sealed the deal for the Governor, allowing him a five-point win that cements him as the frontrunner. With New Hampshire approaching and a Christie victory in sight the Governor is close to becoming the anointed establishment candidate, but with some signs of trouble on account for Ernie Fletcher and Walter Jones's rise among evangelical and Tea Party voters. With Fred Upton stuck on the downside and Ron Paul and Adam Carolla still strong on more libertarian states, many wonder on how decisive the remaining January primaries will be. If Christe sweeps them he may ride all the way to the nomination, but his challengers may have far different plans...

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 30%
Russ Feingold: 14%
Undecided: 3%

Democrats: Can Clinton seal the deal?

Continuing a well-organized, efficient campaign which has proved miles more successful than her 2008 campaign Senator Clinton has survived Iowa, if narrowly. A challenge from Vice-President Biden and several frustrated Obama supporters came close, but Clinton's effective messaging and organizational support pushed her along the line. As a result, Senator Clinton is anointed in the media as the clear frontrunner heading for what could be a landslide in New Hampshire, and much like Christie could realistically vanquish Biden is she sweeps the January primaries.

On the other hand, Senator Russ Feingold's coalition of progressives remains strong despite a third-place in Iowa, and Biden supporters boast of the Vice-President's strong result despite a late campaign. Indeed, Biden has managed to break 30% in the national average, but his percieved lack of a message and the apparent focus on Clinton controversies appears to have done far more harm than good. While those who know the Vice-President are certain he has what it takes for a full-blown comeback, it remain to be seen what will happen.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:07:05 PM
GOP Average Polling:

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Chris Christie: 38%
Ron Paul: 21%
Adam Carolla: 17%
Walter Jones: 10%
Fred Upton: 6%
Ernie Fletcher: 6%
Undecided: 2%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Ernie Fletcher: 31%
Walter Jones: 31%
Chris Christie: 18%
Ron Paul: 9%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 4%

FLORIDA:

Chris Christie: 35%
Walter Jones: 16%
Adam Carolla: 15%
Ernie Fletcher: 14%
Ron Paul: 12%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 29%
Chris Christie: 18%
Adam Carolla: 18%
Walter Jones: 17%
Ernie Fletcher: 11%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:08:52 PM
DEM Average Polling:

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Hillary Clinton: 60%
Joe Biden: 23%
Russ Feingold: 15%
Undecided: 2%

NEVADA:

Hillary Clinton: 56%
Joe Biden: 35%
Russ Feingold: 6%
Undecided: 3%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Hillary Clinton: 49%
Joe Biden: 43%
Russ Feingold: 5%
Undecided: 3%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 58%
Joe Biden: 33%
Russ Feingold: 6%
Undecided: 3%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
Endorsements from Turn Four:

Christie: Terry Branstad
Fletcher: Jim DeMint, Newt Gingrich.
Corella: 50 Cent.
Paul: Andrew Napolitano, Raul Labrador.
Jones: Steve King, Michelle Bachmann.
Upton: Charles Bass.

Clinton: Tom Harkin, Dave Loebsack.
Biden: Shelly Berkeley, Jim Clyburn.

Clark: Leon Panetta.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:27:30 PM
5th Democratic Presidential Debate:

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General Questions:

1.- The rise in unemployment has stopped as January begins, but it still hovers above 9%. Do you side with the optimistic side or the pessimistic side when it comes to economic growth this year?

2.- A issue of interest to a rising number of Americans is that of equality and of same-sex marriage, already legal in a few states. Where do you stand on same-sex marriage?

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Candidate Specific Questions:

1.- To Senator Clinton: Senator, an issue which drew interest back on the 2008 primary was your stance on gun control, with some commentators noting you had seemingly described yourself as pro-gun in some aspects, or a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. So to clarify your stance, how would you approach gun control as an issue if elected President?

3.- To Vice President Biden: Mr. Vice-President, there has been mounting concern among some Democrats over your comments on Senator Clinton and some past controversies, some Clinton supporters expressing their belief that you were trying to pull a Phil Bredesen. What is your response to that?

4.- To Senator Feingold: Senator, your status as a progressive Democrat appears to be a critical part of your campaign, but where would you say your're the most apart from Senator Clinton and Vice-President Biden?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on January 30, 2018, 09:37:30 PM
5th Republican Presidential Debate:

Note: Rather than candidate specific questions, this debate will innovate a bit with four general questions. That will allow a more straight comparison and would make debate and criticism easier, hopefully.

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General Questions:

1.- When it comes to foreign policy America has gone through some noticeable shifts over the past decade, particularly in terms of who the United States sees as its enemy. Who is to you the biggest foreign threat or rival to the United States right now?

2.- With growth stagnant and the unemployment state still high most voters place the economy as the most important issue. How can you reassure the voters that you are the right choice to restore economic growth?

3.- Crime remains at very high levels in some cities across America such as Detroit, while at the same time crime appears to be lower at some other regions of America. How do we fight crime more effectively?

4.- The price of gas is also noted as historically high, particularly as the price of oil continues to rise in the middle of severe instability in the Middle East. What is your plan to lower the price of gas for Americans?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 30, 2018, 11:53:04 PM
Biden Victory/Concession Statement

Obviously it takes a tremendous amount of courage to enter the race in December and fight the heavy favorite to an essential draw in delegates. However, we did not win, and we are disappointed in that. We will continue on through New Hampshire and Nevada to at least South Carolina, and hopefully win the nomination, and continue President Obama's work.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 31, 2018, 12:17:36 AM
Biden debate answers (minus responses to Clinton/Feingold)

1. I'm somewhere in the middle. Unemployment is coming down thanks to the work the Obama Administration is doing, but there is more we can be doing. We need a new New Deal, with programs similar to the WPA, NIRA, CCC, and beefing up the NLRB.

2. I am definitely in favor of same-sex marriage. It is despicable that we deny two people who are madly in love the right to get married, just because they are the same gender.

3. I appreciate the concern about how I run my campaign, but what people miss is that Senator Clinton has some very real vulnerabilities. She's got a habit of lying to get places. Remember in 2008, during the run-up to the Pennsylvania Primary when Senator Clinton lied about ducking sniper fire in Bosnia, when she was actually greeted by smiling children? Or, again in 2008, when Mark Penn, then Clinton's chief strategist was caught promoting a free trade deal that Clinton opposed, and instead of firing him, she demoted him, proving she valued winning over message? Is this the person we intend to nominate? I know I'm not perfect either, but I'm a far better candidate than Senator Clinton is.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 31, 2018, 11:10:37 AM
Carolla’s debate answers
Part 1
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1.Well first off my foreign policy wouldn’t end up getting us into World War III like others I have seen *He and some of the crowd laughs*

Let’s see in the Middle East I think we need to get out of Afghanistan and completely out of Iraq however I do believe that we still need to deal with Al Queda. Bin Laden and his cronies are still out there and we should have gotten them by now. Just shows you how walk the leadership there is in the country.  We have.  However we do have a country that is a big threat to us and our country and that is Palestine.

They are savage terrorists who indoctrinate, kill and threat the way of living to one of biggest allies Israel. 

As President me and my UN ambassador will never recognize them as a state or anything that remotely shows them as a ally of ours.

North Korea is also a threat.  I feel like there new leader that just came in Kim Jung Un will be more evil than his father will ever be.  They threaten the way of life to our biggest ally in the Pacific in the Japanese.
And the South Koreans.  They threat their citizens like absolutely total slaves and propaganda is just pure  Orwellian. And they the scariest of all those things have the nuclear capability to hit Japan and most of the Asian part of the Pacfic and Hawaii.  As President I will protect not just the Amercian people but the people of one of our biggest allies in world from total nuclear carnage.

However with that said I will be selling to work peacefully side by side with rivials like Russia and China and be able to improve our relations with them and show that the Cold War is over. The days of Reds under the Bed are over and that it’s the 21th century and that it’s time to get in with the times.




Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: GoTfan on January 31, 2018, 04:56:15 PM
Speech from Russ Feingold in Delaware

Ladies and gentlemen,  thank you all for coming.

Well, here we are, at the end of all things. We hoped that Iowa would give us the boost we needed, but it didn't. To all those who have supported me, you have my utmost thanks. I would not have been able to go on this incredible journey without you and that backing you have gicen me.

There is one person in the race still who will push for our priorities. One person who will listen to our concerns and cour cees and act upon them. One person who will see that Glass Steagall is reinstated. One person who will protect our workers. One person who will stand up to the billionaire class and say "You can't have it all".

Today, I am formally announcing my withdrawal from the race for President, and am throwing my full support to the Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on January 31, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Schedule for Joe Biden

January 4, 2012

Meet Voters in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire

Meet Voters in Jackson, New Hampshire

Speech in Somersworth, New Hampshire

Senator Clinton claims she is for keeping assault weapons off the streets. How can we trust on her that when she said during her 2008 campaign that she had "fond memories of being taught to shoot by her grandfather"? That sounds like a lifelong member of the NRA to me.

Meet Voters in Barrington, New Hampshire

January 5, 2012

Speech at the Kohl Center, Madison, Wisconsin (with new endorsee, Russ Feingold)

I am truly honored to have Senator Feingold's endorsement forward. It means a lot to me to get this endorsement, and I give you my word as a Biden that I will honor it and respect it. Should I win the nomination my running mate will be a progressive, much like Feingold. Should I win in November, I will fight to bring back Glass-Steagall, to make sure our remaining workers get a fair deal in the labor market, to get our unemployed the education they need to be competitive in a new field, and to make war a last resort, whenever possible. President Obama wanted to dream of every one of these things, but hostility from Republicans in Congress stopped him from accomplishing any of it. It's time to finish the work.

Meet Voters in Gilmanton, New Hampshire


January 6, 2012

Meet Voters in Sutton, New Hampshire

Meet Voters in New London, New Hampshire

Meet Voters in Franklin, New Hampshire

Meet Voters in Brookline, New Hampshire


January 7, 2012

Speech at Holman Stadium, Nashua, New Hampshire

I don't quite get why Republicans such as Governor Christie and Governor Fletcher are attacking Obamacare as hard as they do. Sure, it's not perfect, and single-payer probably is better, but have you tried getting single-payer health care through Congress? Obamacare is probably the best we'll be able to do for quite some time.

Speech at Northeast Delta Dental Stadium, Manchester, New Hampshire
You know, I've been wondering this, and I'm sure Senator Clinton is too...why is General Clark running as an Independent? It's almost like his only purpose is to divide our party in November, which would be a disaster, especially if someone like Ron Paul, Walter Jones or Adam Carrolla, heaven forbid was elected.

Speech at Saint Anselm College, Goffstown, New Hampshire
You know, there's usually more than one race going on during an election year, and here in New Hampshire there's also a competitive Governor's race as well. I am honored tonight, to make not one but two endorsements, in Maggie Hassan and Jackie Cilley, both whom will carry on Governor Lynch's legacy for the people of New Hampshire, and defend this state's men, women and children.

January 8/9, 2012

Barnstorm Northern Nevada

January 10, 2012

Meet Voters in Seabrook Island, South Carolina

Meet Voters in Hollywood, South Carolina

Election Night Rally at SNHU Arena, Manchester, New Hampshire


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on January 31, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Adam Carolla debate answers part 2
2.- With growth stagnant and the unemployment state still high most voters place the economy as the most important issue. How can you reassure the voters that you are the right choice to restore economic growth?

When it comes to our country we need to put Amercia First. Not Mexico not Canada but Amercia.  We need to either gut for get rid of these unfair trade deals.  We need to cut taxes and we need to make them as easy as it can be. We gotta get rid of all unnecessary taxes and fees. I am the only candidate on this stage that proposes every a cut or gut in every single tax and fee in this country!!  We need to balence the budget and create a constitutional amendment that says hey you can’t spend that much.  We need to embrace free enterprise. We have to cut the red tape and reduce the corporate tax rate to make us more competitive with other countries.  I believe the best government is the least government.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on January 31, 2018, 10:19:50 PM
Post- Iowa Caucus Results Speech
1.3.17
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"Well, I don't think the pundits a week ago were expecting that! (crowd cheering loudly)

Let me thank all of you and all the people that got out today to get the people of Iowa to go put and caucus. I can never thank those people enough for this opportunity and the opportunity this country has offered me. It's been a tremendous, monumental campaign. I want to thank everyone here tonight. (crowd cheers) What I have learned in this campaign is that if you run a campaign and you talk about the issues, the vision, the leadership, the future that this country needs.. that you can outperform and you can win. I think that's a tremendous statement for Iowa and the rest of the nation. (crowd cheers)

We have shown that campaigns don't have to be about wasteful political fighting and dirty politics. They can be about the issues. They can be about what Americans need now. They don't have to be about flipping and flopping plans just to get votes. They can be about the vision to win the future for every American in the United States of America! (crowd cheers) What we've continued to see from President Barack Obama's term is a stagnant economy and weak recovery. We had a stagnant economy in Kentucky too. In 2002 and 2003, the economy in Kentucky remained stagnant, but what we saw after the people of Kentucky won the governorship back is taxes cut, better education, cheaper tuition, a faster, moving economy. That's what we can do for the entire nation too! (crowd cheering)
 
And that's the foundation we're going to lay for our nation. It's one of real results, real successes. It's a foundation that we need for America and for our future. (crowd cheering) Let me congratulate Walter, Ron, Chris, Fred, and Adam for the campaigns they ran; for being willing to put their hand in the ring. They really know how exhausting it sometimes get spending their time campaigning for a long time. Let me congratulate them for being willing to put their names on the ballot. (crowd claps) Let me congratulate all the folk who worked on their behalf. They were out working hard. I look forward to seeing them out on the campaign trail for the rest of the 49 states that will vote. (crowd claps)

So we're going to keep moving forward, and with this big victory tonight, I don't have doubt that we can go out and win the future.(crowd cheers) We're gonna get out there in New Hampshire, Florida, South Carolina, Nevada, Georgia, Tennessee, Maine, Colorado, and all the other states.(crowd cheers) We're gonna do even better there than we did here. 3 months ago, 2 months ago, or even 1 month ago, this kind of win was unimaginable by any pundit. (crowd cheers)

Speaking of the campaign trail, Glenna came home the other night, and she was very, very excited. Uh, I'll admit it took her a while to get my attention. I'd been on the campaign trail for a while (crowd laughing) but I hadn't seen that much excitement on her face in a while. She had just been giving a pep talk to the campaign staff, and she was telling me about it. She told me about how a staffer had really been hoping that I win the election, so that college could be more affordable for him. He was talking about how nobody in his family had gone to college. Things like that, it just gives you some motivation, and it's proof that some people have been ignored by the people in Washington. It really just motivated me today to get out and, y'know, knock door to door, hand out flyers, and campaign, so we can make good things happen for people like him. (crowd cheers)

So let me conclude with this, as we go through the Republican Primary and grow this huge momentum, as we take our message across the United States of America, and as we take, not only to Republicans, but to Democrats and Independents, (Crowd Cheers) and all of those that share our values and our hopes and dreams for what our future could be, please listen to this: When our team wins, America wins! God bless you, and thank you for this opportunity. Good night!" (crowd cheers)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 01, 2018, 11:46:56 AM
Carolla debate answers part 3
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3.We need to end the war on drugs. That is the main reason. Now im NOT saying oh go out and do herion and ruin your life but rather there are drugs banned by the FDA that well can help people. As a matter of fact there are drugs on the market that are fine by FDA standards that are more deadly and addictive than some drugs that are considered illegal that actually help people and can possibly lead to curing cancer.

Weed as killed nobody and it’s illegal while fentryal a drug that was the most common drug to overdose on in 2011 is legal and ok’d at.   

We need to go after and defeat these drug companies which im pretty sure are getting funded by most of the people on here to say that I am a lunatic and I shouldn’t be here!! 

All I am saying is as President I will put better safer and cheaper drugs to put on the market and allow them to compete with other drugs.  There could be a drug that is considered illegal but it could cure forms cancer but it’s bad because the FDA said so. Well with me in charge it ain’t happening no more!!

And no this isn’t a gun issue.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 01, 2018, 02:04:28 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
January 4 to January 10, 2012

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January 4: Senator Clinton holds a victory rally in Des Moines, Iowa to thank supporters for "the tremendous victory" in the Iowa Caucus. She then flies to South Carolina.

January 5: Senator Clinton holds a breakfast meeting with local union workers in Rock Hill, South Carolina. She pledges her continued support for "protecting the American worker" while also promoting "free and fair trade" by reforming various trade agreements to "create the maximum benefit." She then meets with leaders of the African American community in York to discuss "getting kids off the streets, into schools, and into successful, high-paying careers." In the evening, Senator Clinton and former President Clinton hold a town hall meeting at the American Legion post in Tega Cay.

January 6: The Clinton campaign drives from Tega Cay, South Carolina to Charlotte, North Carolina. Senator Clinton holds a large rally with Senator Mark Warner and former President Clinton at Charlotte Convention Center. Senator Clinton tells the crowd that "South Carolina will be the defining moment of the campaign." If she can win South Carolina, Senator Clinton says, "that's the ballgame." After the rally, the Senators and former President tour Carolinas Medical Center and meet with patients. Senator Clinton then flies to New Hampshire.

January 7: The day begins early, with Senator Clinton making several appearances on early morning, drive time radio programs. She also does a sit down interview with John McElveen of WMUR News. She then gives a speech at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, where she talks about "painting a bold and progressive vision" for the country, where "every person has the full opportunity to take part in the beautiful American dream." Senator Clinton also attends a fundraiser for the New Hampshire Democratic Party with Senator Jeanne Shaheen in Nashua.

January 8: Senator Clinton holds a roundtable discussion over breakfast in Concord with local business leaders to discuss "bringing the Live Free or Die spirit" nationwide. After breakfast, she drives to Woodstock, Vermont to give a speech to local Democratic organizers at Woodstock Union High School. She returns to New Hampshire in the evening. She holds a rally in Berlin, a former industrial town, to talk about making "free trade work for everyone" and bringing back "exported jobs."

January 9: Senator Clinton begins the day with a tour of the U.S.-Canada border at the Pittsburg-Chartierville Border Crossing. She then crosses into Canada to speak with a group of Canadian business leaders in Montreal about "working together to create a freer, fairer, and stronger" relationship between the two countries. She also meets with a group of First Nations representatives and listens to their plight, pledging to work, as President, to "increases aid and services for all native peoples." Senator Clinton then flies back to New Hampshire, landing in Portsmouth.

January 10: Joined by Senator Shaheen, Senator Clinton attends an AARP meeting in Portsmouth in the morning. The pair then meet with service men and women at Pease Air Force Base before holding a rally in Laconia. Senator Clinton spends an hour in the early afternoon door knocking with supporters in Moultonborough before driving to Concord to hold a rally on the steps of the New Hampshire State House. In the evening, the campaign's official election night rally is at the Grappone Conference Center in Concord.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 01, 2018, 02:36:46 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
January 2012 Debate

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Q1: The rise in unemployment has stopped as January begins, but it still hovers above 9%. Do you side with the optimistic side or the pessimistic side when it comes to economic growth this year?


Clinton: I think our economic direction depends entirely on how this election shapes up. If we put the Republicans back in the driver's seat at this point, we're risking sliding backwards into another recession. If we put a pro-growth Democrat into the White House, we've got a really strong chance of turning the trend around and getting people back to work, increasing take-home-pay, and promoting savings. That's how we're going to turn the economy around and get America back on track, by giving the American people the incentives that they need to increase their spending, increase their savings, and increase consumer confidence.

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Q2: A issue of interest to a rising number of Americans is that of equality and of same-sex marriage, already legal in a few states. Where do you stand on same-sex marriage?

Clinton: I support same-sex marriage. I think it is a fundamental human right to be able to express ones love through the bonds of marriage and I think that we should allow people, same-sex couples, to do just that. I voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 and I said in 2006 that, if a future Governor and Legislature of New York went forward with same-sex marriage legalization, I'd be in support of it. Look, I'm going to be honest with you, I think my husband made a mistake when he signed DOMA into law. I think that was the wrong decision and it set a dangerous precedent for opposition to same-sex relationships. I think that this is an issue that should be handled at the state level, but I personally think that every state should allow same-sex marriages.

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Candidate Question: Senator, an issue which drew interest back on the 2008 primary was your stance on gun control, with some commentators noting you had seemingly described yourself as pro-gun in some aspects, or a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. So to clarify your stance, how would you approach gun control as an issue if elected President?

Clinton: We have a gun violence epidemic in this country. In 1999, I stood with my husband in the Oval Office when we were briefed on the Columbine massacre. As a nation, we promised to never let something like Columbine happen again. But since then, we've seen school children, teachers, and administrators shot and killed dozens of times. At Virginia Tech, at Red Lake, at Northern Illinois University - all over the country, we've watched as horror has unfolded. We need to address this crisis with vigor and commitment, so we don't lose an entire generation to senseless violence. We need stricter background checks, to make sure that people who shouldn't have a gun can't get a gun, we need to increase access to mental health services, to catch potential gun violence perpetrators before they can committ their crimes and get them the health they need. We also need to have a national discussion on the role of violence in film, and on TV, and in video games. I support the Second Amendment, but I more importantly support keeping the American people safe at home, and at work, and at school.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 01, 2018, 02:47:07 PM

Extra GOP Polling:

MAINE:

Chris Christie: 31%
Ron Paul: 25%
Adam Carolla: 15%
Walter Jones: 11%
Ernie Fletcher: 8%
Fred Upton: 2%
Undecided: 8%

MINNESOTA:

Walter Jones: 26%
Ernie Fletcher: 24%
Ron Paul: 21%
Chris Christie: 14%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%

COLORADO:

Chris Christie: 33%
Walter Jones: 20%
Ernie Fletcher: 18%
Ron Paul: 11%
Adam Carolla: 10%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 8%

MISSOURI:

Walter Jones: 29%
Ernie Fletcher: 28%
Chris Christie: 22%
Ron Paul: 8%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 7%

ARIZONA:

Chris Christie: 31%
Walter Jones: 25%
Ernie Fletcher: 19%
Ron Paul: 10%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 8%

MICHIGAN:

Chris Christie: 29%
Ernie Fletcher: 19%
Walter Jones: 18%
Fred Upton: 16%
Ron Paul: 7%
Adam Carolla: 4%
Undecided: 7%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on February 01, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
Wesley for America: January 4th-10th Schedule


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January 4th-10th, 2012

Fly to WV
Rally in Charleston, WV w/ Fmr. Sen. Carte Goodwin:

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”...It’s great to be back in Charleston!!! I love this city, this state, everything about it. It taught me the way. I learned a lot while serving in the Senate. One, Washington’s very dysfunctional, but two, it’s also broken and crippled by severe gridlock. We need an independent voice, not someone who’s part of the problem in that White House!!! We need fresh, new, bold leadership. With fresh, new, bold ideas!!! We need someone who’s proved themselves though, and General Clark as sure as hell proved himself worthy. I’m proud to call him my friend, and the next President of the United States!!! West Virginia, Appalachia, let’s put this great man over the top, and into the WHITE HOUSE!!!...”

Fly to MT
Rally in Billings, MT
Dinner with supporters in Billings, MT

Fly to CA
Fundraising in Sacramento, CA
Rally in Sacramento, CA

Rally in Los Angeles, CA:

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”...We have to put an end to these problems people... We have to end the nonstop wars, the warrantless government surivellence, the crime in our streets, the unemployment, ugh, how could leaders we elect screw us over so much!? I’ve been consistent, and I’m going to make a promise. We’ll get stuff done in Washington if you elect me. I promise. Thank you!!!...”

Fly to AL
Rally in Montgomery, AL w/ Fmr. Rep. Artur Davis:

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”...Believe me folks, I’ve seen the horrors of Washington first hand. Believe me folks, I’ve learned what it’s like in that damn swamp. The Democratic Party has left me, I can’t support these current Republican candidates, I’m left with one option that inspires and will bring about true hope and change. That option is with General Wesley Clark, please Alabama, vote for this man to be your commander in chief!!!...”

Rally in Birmingham, AL w/ Fmr. Rep. Artur Davis
Fly to NH

Rally in Concord, NH:

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”...Dang, that’s a lot of ‘04 signs haha!!! Look New Hampshire, I’m not gonna lie to you, but those sellouts will!!! They’re gonna lie and clobber for your votes, hell, they’d kill for them. But they’ll say anything it takes and lie and lie, that’s part of the problem in Washington. If you vote for me on November 6th, I promise we’ll change America for the better! Thank you!!!...”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 01, 2018, 02:53:38 PM
Extra DEM Polling:

NATIONAL:

Hillary Clinton: 55%
Joe Biden: 42%
Undecided: 3%

NEW HAMPSHIRE:

Hillary Clinton: 61%
Joe Biden: 35%
Undecided: 4%

NEVADA:

Hillary Clinton: 55%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 4%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Hillary Clinton: 50%
Joe Biden: 47%
Undecided: 3%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 59%
Joe Biden: 36%
Undecided: 5%

MAINE:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 6%

ARIZONA:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 40%
Undecided: 6%

MICHIGAN:

Hillary Clinton: 51%
Joe Biden: 44%
Undecided: 5%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 01, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Carolla debate answers part 4 and closing
4.- The price of gas is also noted as historically high, particularly as the price of oil continues to rise in the middle of severe instability in the Middle East. What is your plan to lower the price of gas for Americans?

Well we also need to put Amercia First when it comes to oil and gas.  We have been in so many conflicts just because we could control oil supplies and their energy in general.   As President I will fight for energy independence and will cut taxes and regulations on energy and energy manufacturers. 

We dont need to be in Iraq or Afghanistan or wherever to get good oil. We can do just just here in the good  ol USA.   If you work with coal I will find a way to help with you, If you work with oil and gas I will help you.  If you work with solar and wind energy I will help you. We need competition in the energy
marketplace to keep it running.

Closing:Despite what the polls and the pundits say. This race isn’t over, We can still win this thing! They think we are just a joke but we are not we are a movement of individuals who want lesser government and more freedom!

Choosing Chris Christie will give 4 more years of a Democrat in office and polling shows that I am the best candidate to take on Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in November! Thank you all and good night!!



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 01, 2018, 09:02:26 PM
What Carolla did part 1

Carolla got back on the campaign trail with Donald Trump and action star Bruce Willis in rural New Hampshire where in the first two days they campaigned on bringing Amercia First And reforming bad trade deals.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 01, 2018, 09:30:52 PM
Biden-Endorsements/Surrogate schedule

Vice President Biden is honored to receive the endorsements of Carl Levin and John Lewis.

The schedule for Biden surrogates will be as follows:

Beau Biden: Campaign in Michigan and South Carolina

Shelly Berkeley: Campaign in Nevada

Carl Levin: Campaign in Michigan

Jim Clyburn: Campaign in South Carolina

John Lewis: Campaign in South Carolina


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 02, 2018, 07:39:26 AM
Hillary Clinton Ad #4
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #5
In His Own Words, Airing in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, Maine, and Michigan

Hillary Clinton Ad #6
Why Are You Running?, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #9
An Seat for Everyone at the Table, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene opens on various clips of diverse Americans going about their lives: shopping at the grocery store, sorting through mail, driving to work, taking public transportation. In every shot, there is a child watching the adult as they go through the day -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): It is 2012. Almost 100 years ago, women won the right to vote. Forty years after that, African Americans were freed from the chain of Jim Crow laws to gain the franchise. But still today, women make up just 20% of elected officials in the United States Congress. Representation of people of color is even worse. We've taken steps to improve this disparity over the years, and we've made great progress, but there's still more we have to do.

- Scene cuts to Hillary interacting with young girls and minority children -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): That's why I'm working to make sure that everyone in this country has a seat at the table. That means fighting for fair election laws, stopping partisan gerrymandering, and giving every child the hope that they too could one day become President of the United States of America.

Only then will the words of our founding document ring true: We hold these trueths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

Hillary Clinton Surrogate Schedule
January 4 to January 10, 2012

Senator Jeanne Shaheen campaigns with Senator Clinton in New Hampshire.

Senator Bill Nelson rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Florida.

Mayor Tom Menino leads fundraising efforts in New England.

Governor Andrew Cuomo leads fundraising efforts in New York.

Senator Mark Warner campaigns with Senator Clinton in South Carolina.

Senator Dianne Feinstein leads fundraising efforts on the West Coast.

Governor John Hickenlooper rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Nevada.

Senator Debbie Stabenow rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Senator Tom Harkin rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Congressman Dave Loebsack rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Governor Brian Schweitzer rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Nevada.

Governor Dannel Malloy appears on various news programs to support the Clinton Campaign.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 02, 2018, 10:52:59 AM
Carolla campaigns on weed legalization in Concord New Hampshire
January 5th 2012
Obama in 2008 promised that he would push for the legalization of marijuana when he became president.
Well I am still waiting for that to happen!!  But it wouldn’t cause he lied about it!!  The truth of the matter is that I am the only one here running for President that has called for the legalization of weed.

Hillary Clinton wants it banned same with Vice President Biden, Chris Christie wants to go real hard on it and continue the harsh war on drugs and the rest which to my surprise even Ron Paul haven’t push for this!!

I have been the only one so far to say this! And as President in my first days I will fight for a legislative that would legalization weed in all 50 states!  No one needs to go to jail for 25+ years just for smoking a plant!!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 02, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
Statement from the Biden campaign in response to Carolla on marijuana, from The Kohl, Center, Madison, Wisconsin

Mr Carolla, you are being disingenuous when you suggest I want marijuana banned. Legislation to criminalize possession of drugs such as marijuana is another tool for racists, and is used in a way that only affects minority groups, and I support decriminalizing marijuana.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 02, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
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Debate Answers.

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1.- When it comes to foreign policy America has gone through some noticeable shifts over the past decade, particularly in terms of who the United States sees as its enemy. Who is to you the biggest foreign threat or rival to the United States right now?

The biggest foreign threat is Osama Bin Laden. The number one priority of my administration's foreign policy will be to kill Osama Bin Laden, and to dismantle the Al-Qaeda network.

I know that the images of 9/11, the carnage, the destruction, the fear, it will be etched into the minds of the American public forever. Even in the 1990's, after the USS Cole Bombing, and the Nairobi Embassy, it was clear that Osama Bin Laden was the number one foreign threat to the United States.

We've taken some steps to push back against Al-Qaeda already, like getting the Taliban out of power in Afghanistan and capturing hundreds of insurgents, and commanders. But we need to do a lot more. We've been lucky that we haven't had a major terrorist attack since 9/11; that's down to the dedication of the National Security service men, and women who keep our country safe.

But we need to be on our guard; we know that Al-Qaeda's methods can change very quickly. We thought we'd pushed them back in 2002, and then they begun flooding weapons and men into Iraq in 2006. We know they're trying to move to radicalize people in America, and we know that they're trying to send people into the US to commit mass terrorist attacks, like with the underwear bomber in 2006.

There's several things I'd do as President to counter this threat; I'd ask congress for a 10 year extension of key provisions of the PATRIOT ACT, I'd reform the TSA, and introduce funding for full body scanners, and I'd work with our international partners to secure the Weapons of Mass Destruction, in unstable countries like Syria and Libya.

But I'd also point out Lumine, that there isn't just one threat to America. We need to keep a laser-like focus on Al-Qaeda, whilst being aware there's a multitude of other threats out there. Iran, a nation that chants death to America, and wants to destroy Israel, are on the quest to getting a nuclear bomb. China are looking to expand across the South-China sea, and we could see dozens of regimes collapse across the Middle East.

Frankly, we live in testing times. I'm the only candidate on this stage who has real experience in counter-terrorism; I've put terrorists behind bars. I know how to keep America safe, and that's what I'll do as President.

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2.- With growth stagnant and the unemployment state still high most voters place the economy as the most important issue. How can you reassure the voters that you are the right choice to restore economic growth?

The thing that has moved me the most on the campaign trail has been talking to folks who've had to close down businesses, lay off workers and live paycheck to paycheck because of the awful state of our economy. Just here in New Hampshire I met with a gulf-war veteran named Michael, who'd opened an outdoor activity center 10 years ago, he'd been hit hard by the recession, but he told me it was the crushing mandates of Obamacare that forced him to begin laying off his workers. Our businesses are crushed between two ends; a weak, faltering economy and the tax increases in Obamacare.

So I can reassure voters that I'll fix our tax code to help get the economy booming again. I'll cut the tax code down to three, simple codes, I'll reduce the corporate tax rate to 25% to attract the best and brightest businesses and most importantly I'll repeal Obamacare, and get rid of the job-killing, economy choking individual, and employee mandates.

It's not just about taxes though; we also need to tackle our out of control spending. Just take the example of Medicare and Medicaid; we know that at the rate that medicare expenses are climbing, we're going to need to act before, frankly it bankrupts us. That's why I want to give states more flexibility, because frankly Governors, and State Legislatures understand the different needs of their citizens a hundred times more so than folks in congress.

Fixing the economy will require some tough choices. It requires someone who isn't afraid to tell voters the truth. I did this in New Jersey; rather than doing what Hillary Clinton does, and pander to the special interest groups, I stood up, in a state dominated by the public sector unions and told them; you're gonna have to pay more into the pension contribution system, because frankly you've been ripping off the tax-payers for too long. I capped property taxes, and told school boards, and towns, that they had to get their spending under control, rather than constantly trying to squeeze taxpayers for more money.

Since I've become Governor of New Jersey unemployment has gone down, and we've worked to create 60,000 private sector jobs. That's progress, but I know we've got a long way to go. That's what I'll be saying to the American public; we've got a long way to go, but if we have a honest conversation, if we take the tough decisions, and if we remember the negative impact of trying to horde all economic decision making in the bureaucracy of D.C, then I know that we can begin to get back on the road for economic recovery.

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3.- Crime remains at very high levels in some cities across America such as Detroit, while at the same time crime appears to be lower at some other regions of America. How do we fight crime more effectively?

Honestly, I think to fight crime most effectively we need to keep things that work; such as the three strikes system, the use of the Death Penalty, and a focus the violent cartels, and drug gangs. But part of fighting crime more effectively is changing some of our methods. One law enforcement issue where we need to change is how we approach non-violent drug offenders; especially with young people.

In New Jersey we’ve used drug court for first time, non-violent offenders. It’s been a success, and I think it’s an approach that can be tried nationally. It’s been a learning curve for me, at first, I was sceptical of supporting it, but believe me, after seeing reports about 16-year-old girls on the floor of the county lockup, suffering from drug addictions I knew we had to change.

But this isn’t to say we need to stop enforcing our drug laws; if anything by taking the focus of non-violent first-time users, we can focus on the cartels of death who are smuggling guns, drugs and people into this country, and who are killing our law enforcement officers. It’s a disgrace that the Obama administration is still dithering over the Fast and Furious scandal, where hundreds of weapons were sent to Mexican drug cartels. So, I think one thing we can certainly do to fight crime for effectively is to get rid of Eric Holder.

On the issue of crime though, we can’t remain static, we’ve got to understand that the threats are changing. That’s why I’d want to focus on cyber-crime, especially by making sure that businesses and individuals have the tools to protect themselves from criminals. Whether it’s terrorism, fraud, or child abuse, a lot of crime these days is taking place through the internet. It’s why we need to understand the need to change our approaches.

So that’s really my overall approach on crime; keep building on areas where we’ve made progress, on areas such as the three strikes system, but acknowledge that we need to make changes on issues like cyber-crime, and non-violent drug offences.

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4.- The price of gas is also noted as historically high, particularly as the price of oil continues to rise in the middle of severe instability in the Middle East. What is your plan to lower the price of gas for Americans?

Millions of Americans, and millions of businesses are feeling the squeeze from high gas prices, and frankly it’s time for some action. The first thing that needs to happen is that Washington D.C needs to get the hell out the way; this means getting rid of the excessive regulations that limit offshore drilling, and which are killing the coal industry.

I’d also make sure to support domestic energy sources that can lower gas prices. I support the Renewable fuel subsidy that helps farmers, I’d approve the keystone pipeline and I’d make sure that we have long-term investment into research, and development of new energy sources.

I really think the issue of gas prices, and energy security shows the differences between the republican party, and the Democrats. I support market lead solutions, which gets government out of the way, whilst Hillary Clinton and the Democrats will do everything possible to pander to their base.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 02, 2018, 04:14:57 PM
Rebuttal
Choosing Chris Christie will give 4 more years of a Democrat in office and polling shows that I am the best candidate to take on Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in November! Thank you all and good night!!

I'm sorry but this is complete fiction. What planet are you on? The idea that I'm some sort of secret Democrat is completely stupid. But let's look at the facts,

I support repealing, and replacing Obamacare with a market lead approach. The Democrats don't. I support cutting corporation tax to 25%, and making the tax rates for individuals much lower and fairer. The Democrats don't. I support increasing the funding to our military, and taking action to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons. The Democrats.

This myth that you're trying to push is stupid. And frankly it's an insult to all the republicans who voted for me in the Iowa Caucus, and the dozens of great republicans who've endorsed me for President. When you run for President it matters what you say, and let's look what you've said Mr Carolla.

You said you wanted to 'ban semi-automatic rifles'. That's a position to the left of the Democrats. You've attacked people who believe in god as 'lacking in courage' and you've said you 'want to give the morning after pill to every kid in school'. These positions are about 100 miles to the left of Nancy Pelosi. So I'm not ready to take any lectures yet.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 02, 2018, 04:40:08 PM
Carolla’s debate rebutal to Chris Christie

1.I Never said I would ban semi auto rifles. Either than or I apologized and explained what I meant! Howeber yet you did. And have through your time as New Jersey Govenor should you pushed for restrictions of semi automatic rifles and guns in general.

2.Well your tax plan still isn’t close to what mine is. In yours there still will be taxes and fees especially hidden ones  and it wouldn’t rewrite the tax code.

3.And yes whille I think we should keep our eyes on Iran and if they develop nuclear weapons we should do something about it however I don’t want another Iraq War Style lie to get us into another war and also I don’t have a foreign policy that starts World War III.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 02, 2018, 05:08:36 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

January 4th: The day after his win in the Iowa caucuses, Chris Christie flew to New Hampshire to hold a series of round-table discussions with independents, business owners and precinct captains who had supported Governor Mitt Romney. Christie said he was 'still so overwhelmed by the support from the great folks of Iowa' and said that the message he took was 'that Americans just want someone who can get on with the job.'' Christie ended the day with a meet, and greet in a Bar and Grill before holding a fundraiser with Senator Kelly Ayotte.

January 5th:
Governor Christie was honored to accept the endorsement of 2008 nominee, and Republican Senator John McCain. Senator McCain said 'it's time for republicans to get off the sidelines, and get behind Chris' citing his 'vast law enforcement experience' and his 'ability to bring people together', Senator McCain joined Christie in a series of Veteran Town Halls, and a Tele-Town Hall before flying to South Carolina with Governor Christie.

January 6th: Giving a keynote speech on National Security in South Carolina Governor Christie made clear that he was the only candidate 'who has any real experience in protecting the United States', and said it was vital that the 'republicans nominate someone who knows how to keep the country safe'. Later in the evening Governor Christie appeared at a campaign rally with Nikki Haley in Greenvile, who said that 'Chris Christie is the only candidate who can fight for everyone in South Carolina. We need someone who can bring our party together, we need someone who can bring America together, we need Governor Christie.''.

January 7th:
Governor Christie returned to New Hampshire to meet with business leaders, and others who'd been negatively impacted by the tax hikes from Obamacare. At lunchtime he gave a speech outlining his dedication to the state's motto of 'live Free or Die', and argued that 'whether it was in stopping terrorists trying to kill soldiers in Fort Dix, politicians trying to grow fat from public kickbacks, or the Unions trying to fleece taxpayers, I've stood up for the values of freedom.'' Later in the afternoon, Christie held a Town Hall in Concord with Senate Majority Leader Jeb Bradley, and again touted his tax plan saying that 'folks in New Hampshire, whether they're republicans, independents or Democrats, don't want the Government constantly milking them, everytime it wants to fund a new program.''

January 8th: Governor Christie held a campaign rally in Manchester New Hampshire with Senator Kelly Ayotte, John McCain and Jeb Bradley. Telling the crowd 'that every vote will make a difference' and that 'we need to send a message about what sort of party we are. Are we a party that believes in keeping America safe? Are we a party that wants to keep taxes low? Are we a party that stands up against the old, corrupted special interests? If the answer is yes, you've got to get out and vote for me on the 10th!.''

January 9th:
In the early morning Governor Christie meet with fisherman in Manchester, before heading to Dover to outline his plans for promoting free trade with the 'powerhouse, entrepreneurial' countries like South Korea, and slammed the Obama administration for 'once again dithering on the world stage'. Later Christie headed to a tourist visitor centre to hold a round-table on tourism, and touted his tourism friendly plan to help young people get into work by eliminating payroll tax for those under 22. In the Afternoon Governor Christie held another town hall with Senator McCain, in which Senator McCain admitted 'even I didn't have this much fun in New Hampshire' after watching Governor Christie spar with various audience members. In the evening Christie spend time in Manchester meeting with campaign workers, and preparing for the final day of GOTV.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 02, 2018, 05:43:17 PM
Carolla responds to Joe Biden

Mr Vice President you said in 2010 that Marijuana is a gateway drug and that legalization would be a mistake and you crafted a major anti weed law bad in the late 80s and early 90s.

So don’t try to flip flop on me.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 02, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
Joe Biden press release in response to Carolla

Clearly, I've had the courage to admit I am wrong, something my rivals in both parties are not doing. Mr. Carolla, pay attention to your own primary, before you attack us Democrats.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 02, 2018, 06:04:06 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Highlights


'Let's get America back to Work'' Christie delivers Iowa victory speech.

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Thank you Iowa. Thank you. Imagine if someone told the media this time last year, that a loud, Catholic, Governor from New Jersey would win the Iowa Caucus. They said it wasn't possible, in fact lots of the talking heads you see pop up said I wouldn't win, they said our campaign couldn't appeal to the right voters, they said I didn't have the right record. Well you know what Iowa- we proved them wrong.

And you know why? Because Iowans are interested in the politics of yesterday, they're not interested in cheap slogans, and easy applause lines. They want real change. They want someone who can fix our faltering economy. They want someone who can bring jobs back to America, they want someone who can bring bring the two parties together and sort out our spiraling debt, you know what, it's quite simple really... they want someone who just gets to work!.

I've said many times on this campaign trail that it's the message I'll take from Iowa, but there's one other message that will stay in my heart for all my life, and that was when some great activists fly all the way from Iowa to New Jersey, to convince me to to run for President. That's what our country is all about, one group of citizens talking to another. Our best leaders, Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, they were just ordinary citizens who saw other folks suffering, and knew that through public service, they could help their fellow countryman.

So I thank you for that Iowa, thank you for your hope, thank you for inspiring me to run, thank you for supporting me, and now let's go onto New Hampshire, and show that it's time to get America working again. 



Senator John McCain endorses Chris Christie for President

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''The greatest joy in my Presidential Campaigns was travelling through, and meeting voters in town halls, veteran halls, diners, bars and churches. People always asked me what my secret was. It's simple. The people of New Hampshire want someone who puts forward real solutions, someone who has a record of fixing problems, and someone who can bring Americans together for a common purpose. Governor Chris Christie is the only Candidate running who can do this, and I'm proud to endorse him for President of the United States.

Not only does Governor Christie have experience in Law Enforcement, but he's won in a deeply blue state, without changing his convictions. The republican party needs to support someone who can both beat Hillary Clinton, and then carry out real, solution  first reforms in Washington to fully fund our armed forces, balance our budget and fix our out of control entitlement spending. I have every faith that Governor Christie can do this, and I will be joining him in New Hampshire to campaign for him.''



Ayotte: I've served as your Attorney General, I know Chris Christie will keep Americans safe.
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'Whether it's the threats from Al-Qaeda, Drug Cartels or cyber-criminals across the globe, it's clear that Americans face a magnitude of threats. And ultimately not only does the responsibility for protection rest with the President, but the type of President we elect sends a clear message out to the world.

I spend a good portion of my career as Attorney General here in New Hampshire, I know that lots of folks are concerned about crime; whether it's sexual offenders living near our schools, drug gangs trying to smuggle in weapons, or cyber-criminals attacking our businesses, we need someone who understands law enforcement as President.

We also need someone who understands the global threats we're facing, whether they're from Iran, Al-Qaeda or China. Governor Christie has spend a great deal of his campaign talking about these threats, talking about his experience as a US Attorney and talking about what he'd do in the future. I know that I can trust him to keep the citizens of New Hampshire safe.''



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 12:11:44 PM
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Campaign Schedule
Jan. 4 - Jan. 10
Schedule
January 4: Iowa & New Hampshire
January 5: New Hampshire
January 6-8: South Carolina
January 9: Florida
January 10: New Hampshire

January 4: Ernie holds a press conference in Iowa and gives a pep talk at his Iowa campaign HQ. He then flies to Manchester, New Hampshire where he does a Town Hall in the SNHU Arena.

January 5: Ernie begins Jan 5th by meeting with leaders of the American Conservative Union about pro- conservative policy. After, he meets with Manchester voters in the Local Moose Cafe. Ernie then does a series of Town Halls in Southern New Hampshire University, Hellenic American University, and Manchester Community College, and ends the day with a Meet & Greet in West Manchester Branch Library.

January 6: Ernie flies out to Charleston, South Carolina in the morning. He is endorsed by The Post & Courier, South Carolina's biggest daily newspaper, in a new article. Ernie holds a Meet & Greet in John L. Dart Library, and then holds a rally in North Charleston Coliseum and a Town Hall in Webster University. He ends the day by holding dinner with local business leaders, discussing local problems with business and pro- local business policy.

January 7: Ernie begins a "barnstorm" tour in Hampton County, Barnwell County, Allendale County, and Aiken County. After that, he does Town Halls in the University of South Carolina Aiken and the University of South Carolina Salkehatchie, as well as doing a rally in Bon Secours Wellness Arena after driving to Greenville, where he is joined by Former Governor Sonny Perdue.

Later, he meets with members of The Post & Courier Editorial Board to do a open, free- ranging discussion. The interview double downed on his belief how important it is we restore unity in our divided nation and how campaigns don't have to be about rhetoric and division. He also re-iterates his opposition to the individual mandate which hurts people who don't want healthcare insurance or still can't afford it after subsidies.

January 8: Ernie spends the morning with a brief, on-the-phone interview with MSNBC, then drives to Clemson, South Carolina and does a joint fundraiser with Senator Jim DeMint in Littlejohn Coliseum. Later, he meets with leaders of the American Family Association to talk about pro- family policy. Afterwards, Ernie holds rallies in T. Ed Garrison Arena and Clemson University, and then does a Meet & Greet in Gunnin Architecture Library. Before he leaves for Florida, he gives a pep talk to his campaign staff and volunteers, talking about how important South Carolina will be for the campaign. Overnight, Ernie flies to Florida.

January 9: After 3 days in South Carolina, Ernie lands in Crestview, Florida. He holds a town hall in Troy University in Crestview, and then begins a "Barnstorm" tour in Walton County, Holmes County, Washington County, Jackson County, Okaloosa County, and Santa Rosa County. After, Ernie flies out to Miami, Florida to hold a rally at American Airlines Arena where he is joined by Senator Marco Rubio. Ernie flies to New Hampshire overnight.

January 10: After Ernie lands in Manchester, New Hampshire, he meets with volunteers and campaign staff and emphasizes the importance of outperforming in New Hampshire. Ernie does a brief interview with ABC News as voting begins, and afterwards, meets voters in Diners and Restaurants, meets with voters on the phone, and meets voters campaigning door to door the entire day getting out the vote.



New Hampshire ( January 4-5, January 10 )
Key Issues: Religious Freedom, Economic Recovery, Education Reform, Job Growth

South Carolina ( January 6 - January 8 )
Key Issues: Religious Freedom, Family Values, Balanced Budget, Immigration Reform

Florida ( January 9 )
Key Issues: Economic Freedom, Religious Freedom, Economic Recovery




Campaign Staff Operations
  • Reach Out to Evangelicals, emphasizing his career as a Preacher
  • Reaching out to former Jindal supporters, emphasizing Fletcher's record of bringing change
  • Knocking door to door in early caucus & primary states
  • Promoting rallies to get them televised
  • Promoting the Post & Courier's endorsement on Radio Ads
  • Spreading the campaign message of unity and strong change with a plan

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 03, 2018, 04:29:28 PM

Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

Campaign Highlights Part 2

McCain. ''We need a President that leads from the Front''
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'The most worrying thing I've seen in the last four years is this idea develop in Washington that America doesn't need to care about leadership, or our image abroad. What the hell happened to America being a shining city on the hill? (Crowd cheers) I know that the spirit of leadership, the spirit of Democracy and the spirit of Freedom is still strong.

Heck it's why I've loved New Hampshire, and why I think a lot of you folks liked me (laughs). We need someone as our republican nominee, and as our President who understands what leadership is. It's not just about making speeches, it's about being able to bring people together, whilst still keeping you're convictions, and then getting a real solution.

Chris has done that in New Jersey; whether it's on property taxes, education or pension reform, he's sat folks down and got them to reach a common-sense agreement. My god, wouldn't it be great to have someone like that in the White House?

But we're only going to get someone like Chris in the White House if you lot turn out to vote on the 10th for Chris.

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Mary Pat hits the Trail, says 'Chris will be a champion for all Americans''

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In a continued bid to woo female republican voters in New Hampshire Mary Pat Christie held a town hall event with her husband to talk to women voters before the primary. Telling the crowd that 'Chris never expected to run this year'' she said that they had both be overwhelmed by the support in Iowa, and across the Nation. Mary Pat told the crowd 'people just want someone who can bring people together', and highlighted education reform 'as a issue where Americans want results, not the same old political lines''. Talking of his work in New Jersey Mary Pat said 'lots of folks wrote off Chris, they said he wouldn't get anything done as a republican in New Jersey. But you know what? Democrats in New Jersey don't underestimate my husband anymore''.

Mary Pat finished the town hall by saying that her husband would be a 'champion for all Americans', and said that unlike Hillary Clinton 'Chris hasn't been planning this since 1992, he just knows that his country needs someone to step forward right now, and I know he's the man who can fight for all of us.'' 

Christie in South Carolina 'I'm going to fight for Every Vote.''
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''You know I saw that folks in the media where saying that I shouldn't come down to South Carolina, that it would be a waste of time (crowd boos). They said I couldn't win, heck one article even I was and I quote 'too arrogant, too Catholic, too headstrong and too New Jersey''. You know I was thinking about getting that on a T-Shirt (crowd laughs). But really folks, opinions like that just represent everything that's broken in our politics.

Of course I'm going to be campaigning in South Carolina, of course I'm going to be holding town halls, of course I'm going to be out there campaigning with your great Governor Nikki Haley, of course I'm going to be going to every corner of this great state, to fight for every vote, because I know that as President you can't be afraid of having folks disagree with you. You can't just stick to your comfort zones, and avoid half the country. The folks here in South Carolina want the exact same thing as everyone one; you want high quality jobs, you want lower taxes, you want someone who's ready to be Commander in Chief, you want someone who'll fight radical Islamic Terror.

I've said throughout this campaign that I'm not the type of guy who'll say one thing in Iowa, and then say another thing in New Hampshire. I'm going to say the same thing in every state, and that message is simple... 'Americans need someone who'll fight for them''.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 03, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
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Carolla campaigns in Manchester New Hampshire on being a different kind of Republican

Now it’s funny to see Chris Christie campaign acting like he is a renegade against the Machine when it reality he is apart of that’s machine! He’s got all the establishment faces and money behind him and he is not what the Republican Party needs to win this year!!   

We need a different kind of Republican someone who can take on the Democratic establishment!! Someone who will not bound down to the knees of Pelosi and Reed!!  Someone who is going to bring actual change to this party!!!  We need someone who can just talk the talk but actually walk the walk do what he says!! 

We don’t need our version of Obama and we don’t need to believe in blind hope!!

And I am that person! If you vote for Adam Carolla you are voting for a different kind of Republican! Thank you!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 03, 2018, 05:03:04 PM
Campaign Advert 1: Safe.(Air in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada and Missouri)

The number one job of the President is to keep Americans safe.

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And in this increasingly dangerous world, we need a President who will keep us safe.

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Representative Walter Jones voted no on keeping the PATRIOT ACTs roving wiretap

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This was the very device that allowed the FBI to stop the Fort Dix Terror Attack.

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Representative Walter Jones voted to pull US Troops out of Afghanistan. The very country were Osama Bin Laden went into hiding, and where radical Islamic terrorists continue to hide.

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Americans need a President who can keep them safe.

Chris Christie is the only candidate running who has direct experience in counter-terrorism. He was the first US Attorney appointed after 9/11, he has put radical Islamic terrorists behind bars, and he's the only candidate with a plan to keep America safe.

Vote for someone who can keep America Safe. Vote for Chris Christie.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
"A Leader"
Ernie Fletcher's 4th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Florida

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher from the 2nd Presidential Debate

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Fletcher: I explain my bid like this:



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Fletcher: These past events were made specifically to play a game of political gotcha and dirty politics.



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Fletcher: A game the majority of Americans disapprove of and for good reason.




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Fletcher: I share the disappointment and dissatisfaction of the American people of the political rhetoric of our nation's leaders and our current administration. The fact is the political machine of our nation's leaders is a failed system that has served no Americans except itself. As President,



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Fletcher: I will not play this game of political gotcha and it's about time we end it in Washington.




I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 03, 2018, 05:28:20 PM
Campaign Advert 2: Stop (Airing in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Missouri, Maine, Colorado and Michigan.

Are you fed up with Obamacare?


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Are you fed up with the job-killing taxes?


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The rising price of premiums?

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The constant lies from our politicians? (plays clip of Obama)

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I bet you think it couldn't get any worse.... but it can!

Now Joe Biden wants to impose a single payer healthcare system on us!


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Don't let the Democrats continue to pump up the price of you're healthcare, and don't let them continue their big government take over.

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Only Chris Christie can defeat the Democrats next November, repeal Obamacare, and replace it with a market friendly plan that will lower costs, increase coverage and put control back in your hands.


Together we can stop this madness, and stop Obamacare.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 03, 2018, 05:54:28 PM
Live Free or Die (Air in New Hampshire)

Live Free or Die. It's a simple motto to live your life by.

It's echoed throughout New Hampshire ever since the first courageous settlers arrived.


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Wouldn't it be great if we had a President who understood these values...

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Chris Christie will fight for your freedoms

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He'll cut income tax, get rid of the Estate tax and get rid of Obamacare's taxes to get the Government off you're back.

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He'll gut the harmful regulations that are killing our economy.

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And the stupid rules that are stopping America from being truly energy independent.

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He's been endorsed by the New Hampshire Union Leader, and described as 'committed to the values of liberty and freedom which we in the Granite State hold so dear.'

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He's supported by Senator John McCain, a war-hero who spend years in enemy captivity without giving up information.

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And he'll appoint Judges who'll protect the 2nd Amendment, and keep the Government off our backs.

Governor Christie understands the value of Liberty. And he understands New Hampshire.

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Vote for Chris Christie on the 10th January.






Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 03, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
Advert 4: Citizens. (Airs in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Missouri, Colorado, Maine and Michigan)

(Footage of Mary Pat Christie talking at a town hall)

When Americans have faced their darkest hour in the past, they haven't looked to the same old politicians from Washington to fix it. They've looked to heroic individuals to lead us; a General lead our nation out of the ashes, a lanky lawyer brought our nation together when it was more divided than ever, the man who defeated the Nazis helped protect America from the dangers of communism, and a charismatic actor from California inspired a generation with his hopeful vision of conservative reform.

My husband stepped forward after so many of you came to us, and told him to run. He's not running because of some long hold ambition, or some burning desire for fame and fortune. He's running because he knows that he's the best for the job. I've seen him get up every morning in New Jersey to fight for ordinary Americans. Let him do from the White House. Join our fight to save America's future.

If you agree with Mary Pat, please join our fight. I'm Chris Christie and I endorse this message.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 07:30:46 PM
"Selfless"
Ernie Fletcher's 7th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in Missouri, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado, and Maine

Narrated by Former Lt. Gen. Terry Gabreski

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"I served for our country on the frontlines, in the air force. I'm very proud of my service, being one of the first women to become a Lieutenant General."





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"In the Air Force, we didn't work for medals. We got the job done."





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"They did it because they cared more about duty than glory. They didn't hesitate. They acted selflessly."





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"One of those soldiers is Ernie Fletcher, he was stationed in Alaska serving as a F-4E Aircraft Commander."

"He was awarded the Outstanding Unit Award because Ernie acted selflessly. Putting his country's interests above his own."


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"If there was anyone I would want to lead the country, it would be Ernie because he's got the guts to lead this nation. He represents selflessness."




I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
Walter Jones Debate Responses

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1.- When it comes to foreign policy America has gone through some noticeable shifts over the past decade, particularly in terms of who the United States sees as its enemy. Who is to you the biggest foreign threat or rival to the United States right now?

We see adversaries out there like Iran, North Korea, or even rogue terrorist networks like al-Qaeda, but let's look at who is really the biggest challenge to the United States over the next century: China.

It's China that have built themselves up from rubble to become one of the world's superpowers, but they won't be playing nice with anybody now that they have all this power. Look at their record so far. They don't want to just dominate Asia, but they want to dominate all of global politics through their military and economic might. Many of their values are hostile to our own. They are a communist state who have brutalized their own people, like in Tienanmen Square. They continue to prop up North Korea as a satellite state even when the whole world agrees that they are an unstable force who must be controlled.

They have also hurt the U.S. along the way. They steal our intellectual property on a regular basis. They engage in cyber warfare. Also, ever since China joined the WTO, our manufacturing base has been decimated. All of those good-paying jobs were shipped away, and communities were left for broke with no help from the government. We may have cheaper goods now, but at what cost? These are real Americans we're talking about here, many of whom have stayed in one company their whole working lives. Now where do they go after what China has done to our economy? We used to be the manufacturing center of the world, and now China has been a direct threat to our own economy and to Americans' livelihoods.

You won't hear this kind of talk from other candidates. People like Governor Christie turn a blind eye to the costs of unfettered free trade. We must have a president who fights for free trade--an economic policy that puts America first. That means holding China accountable for a change. They are a threat to both our economic and national security.


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2.- With growth stagnant and the unemployment state still high most voters place the economy as the most important issue. How can you reassure the voters that you are the right choice to restore economic growth?

Well, I'm one of the few candidates who have owned a business before getting into politics. I used to work in the family business back in rural North Carolina, and that kind of experience really shows you what the value of hard work and an earned dollar is. I know the struggles of small business owners. They need help that they haven't gotten from the Obama administration. They need lower taxes and a better regulatory environment so they can actually survive and grow.

Not only that, but I've been talking about issues that not every Republican here has talked about: the plight of the average worker. I'm talking about the people who don't own businesses but work for one, and who lives paycheck to paycheck. These people need help too. Many American workers have lost their jobs to outsourcing, and what has Washington done to help them? Virtually nothing. That would change under a Jones presidency. I would work to create better trade deals: ones that keep the sovereignty of the U.S. intact and extract better labor and environmental protections while keeping American jobs here.

Think about the issues affecting you and your family, folks. What has worked and what hasn't worked over the past two decades? Governor Christie would do nothing to stop the bloodshed of American labor to countries like China and India. His donors would do anything to cut costs for themselves at the expense of all of you watching at home. We can create a manufacturing renaissance in this country for the 21st century if we get smart on trade. That would create a boom of jobs and economic growth that would keep the U.S. in the driver's seat globally for many decades to come.


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3.- Crime remains at very high levels in some cities across America such as Detroit, while at the same time crime appears to be lower at some other regions of America. How do we fight crime more effectively?

Under a President Jones, police departments across the country would get the support they desperately need again. Obama has failed our men and women in uniform by equivocating and not being firm on crime. We can't risk a spike in crime nationwide again through these passive policies.

That means spending more money in our federal budget to assist law enforcement. We have to work more closely with state and local officials to make sure we're all on the same page and that no one gets left behind. We must stay firm on measures to deter crime.

Here's where I differ from some other candidates on this stage. I'm in agreement with people like Congressman Paul and I would seek to be more lenient on medical marijuana. Many people who suffer from seizures and other terrible conditions are genuinely helped by the drug, and they're committing no crimes otherwise. We've got to show compassion to people and realize where our real priorities lie.

One thing that hasn't been talked about is the problem of illegal immigration. A good number of these illegals end up committing other crimes like theft, reckless driving, or even murder. We must truly enforce the laws on our books, secure our border, and deliver justice. Many illegal alien gangs have been able to roam the streets of this country without fear of punishment for far too long. That won't be tolerated any longer.


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4.- The price of gas is also noted as historically high, particularly as the price of oil continues to rise in the middle of severe instability in the Middle East. What is your plan to lower the price of gas for Americans?

This is yet another reason why we shouldn't mess with the Middle East. *laughs*

It's clear that the current policy isn't working for us. What we've got to do is create a truly American energy policy, where we don't have to rely on rogue Middle Eastern states to supply our oil. That means using our natural resources here within reason. If we're able to become self-sufficient in energy, then our country can create its own future much better.

I support the Renewable Fuel Standard. I also support what my friend Governor Palin has deemed "drill, baby, drill." We've got these vast resources right in front of us, and it could boost our economy and create many well-paying jobs for folks. Of course we should be concerned about the environment, but the Obama administration has taken it way too far and strangled many businesses. We also need to really invest in alternative energy sources. That means wind, solar, hydrogen, and nuclear all have to be part of the solution here. A President Jones would be committed to putting this great country on the right track again for a truly independent energy supply.


Closing statement:

Since this campaign has exploded, many in the media have anointed me as "the Tea Party candidate." That may be true. But, what I'm really running as is the candidate for all of America. I'm running to put this great country back on track after the same old politicians have left it to ruins. Because of the policies pushed by the establishment, we're trillions of dollars in debt, stuck in multiple Middle Eastern wars, and Americans have been left to pick up the pieces after the greatest recession in 80 years. How can we stomach this any longer?

Now the attacks on me have intensified. I welcome the fight. It will show the American people who has a record worth defending. It clearly isn't the establishment, who have burned over Americans time and time again. This campaign is based on ideas, but also based on regular people. What I'm here to tell all of you at home tonight is: I'm not quitting. I'm fighting this campaign for you.

We came in a close third in Iowa when nobody would have predicted this result months ago. This campaign is gonna keep rolling ahead like a steam-train thanks to the support of all of you. Let's go out there and shock the establishment to the core. Thank you all.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Debate response to Christie's attack ad:

You know, Governor Christie, I caught that ad of yours the other day. That one where you talked about voting for someone who can "keep America safe." I'm proud that now I'm apparently worth your attention. *laughs*

Let's set the record straight, though. The reason why I voted against the PATRIOT Act is not because I want people like Osama bin Laden to go free. I voted against the act because it's a gross invasion of privacy on all Americans. There's no presumptions on innocence: everyone is recorded regardless of whether they're guilty or even suspicious. It's a remarkably un-conservative thing to grant that much power to the federal government, and yet you seem to not question it at all, Governor.

You say I'm weak on terrorism because I want to pull out of Afghanistan. You forgot to mention that I fully support going after bin Laden and tracking him down once and for all. In fact, that's the only real business we have there! Why don't we spend all of our resources on the war to find bin Laden? The actual war is unwinnable because there's no end goal. I'm not saying this as some peacenik, because I voted to go to war in Afghanistan. I now see that our priorities have been wrong.

I've consistently been in favor of a strong national defense in Congress. I also happen to have served my country. I'm not going to question your credentials, Governor, because you've served your country well in your own capacity. You just haven't been honest about my record, but that's to be expected when your feet are on the fire now.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:38:48 PM
Walter Jones Schedule: January 4-10

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January 4
-Barnstorming in Greenwood, SC
-Barnstorming in Mount Pleasant, SC
-Barnstorming in Irmo, SC
-Barnstorming in Georgetown, SC
-Interview with Fox News

January 5
-Barnstorming in Fort Mill, SC
-Barnstorming in Beaufort, SC
-Barnstorming in Simpsonville, SC
-Rally in Charleston, SC

January 6
-Barnstorming in Hanahan, SC
-Barnstorming in Lexington, SC
-Town Hall in Spartanburg, SC
-Town Hall in Aiken, SC
-Rally in Summerville, SC

January 7
-Barnstorming in West Columbia, SC
-Barnstorming in Myrtle Beach, SC
-Barnstorming in Easley, SC
-Rally in Rock Hill, SC
-Voter Registration Drive in Columbia, SC

January 8
-Town Hall in Kingman, AZ
-Town Hall in Buckeye, AZ
-Rally in Glendale, AZ
-Voter Registration Drive in Phoenix, AZ
-Outreach to conservative groups in Tucson, AZ

January 9
-Barnstorming in Goffstown, NH
-Barnstorming in Salem, NH
-Barnstorming in Concord, NH
-Rally in Nashua, NH
-Rally in Manchester, NH

January 10
-Barnstorming in Derry, NH
-Barnstorming in Hudson, NH
-Conducting local interviews statewide
-Election Night Rally in Manchester, NH


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Faith

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I am a Christian.

This means more than words. This means I must stay true to my family, friends, neighbors, and God.

I count on the Lord to show me the right path in life. Though I may not always know what's ahead, I'm bounded by my trust in Him.

I try to serve God every day of my life, no matter what I do. I am not perfect. I have sinned. But, I try to repent and hope that I can reverse the pain I have caused others.

This is the philosophy of my life. It's been true as a husband, a father, a businessman, and a Congressman. If I'm elected President, I will be the same in the White House.

I will serve according to my faith.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:44:00 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Our Troops

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These are the brave men and women who have sacrificed their lives for us in Iraq.

I honor them every day by keeping these pictures in my office.

These pictures remind me that when politicians in Washington make decisions, they often deal with life and death. It's up to us to make sure that they act responsibly, because when they don't, human lives are at stake.

I have written thousands of letters to the families who have lost these loved ones. There is no greater duty that I can think of than to let them know they're never alone.

We must not let our troops and their families down. We must fix our broken VA hospitals, improve the quality of healthcare, and lead them back into civilian life.

Although we can't change the past, the future is in our hands. It's our duty as Americans to take care of our veterans, for they are our brothers and sisters all under God.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:45:11 PM
Walter Jones Ad: Governor Palin Speaks

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Well, hi there, folks! This is Governor Sarah Palin talking to ya straight from Alaska.

You know who I'm voting for this year? Congressman Walter Jones. Here's why all you good folks should, too!

He's a man of integrity. He's been fighting the corrupt Washington establishment from day one. He stands for what he really believes in, and ain't that a rare sight up there?

He's been fighting for our brave men and women in uniform. There's no one else like him who knows how badly the VA needs to be reformed.

He's pro-life and pro-Second Amendment, 100%, no questions asked. He's a proud conservative and a good family man.

And, you know what? He's never lost his roots. He stands for the proud, hardworking, average Joe out there who can't seem to get a break.

Isn't it just about time we had some real change in Washington? That's why I'm for Walter. What about you?

I'm Walter Jones and I approve this message.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 09:47:22 PM
4th Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher

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Debate Answers & Responses


General Questions

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1.- When it comes to foreign policy America has gone through some noticeable shifts over the past decade, particularly in terms of who the United States sees as its enemy. Who is to you the biggest foreign threat or rival to the United States right now?

Look, the people threatening us with weapons of mass destruction will always be the biggest foreign threats to the American people. It's that simple. I've met great people across this nation, and they are disappointed with our nation's foreign policy. The current administration is acting ineffectively overseas, and as a result, we're spending way more than we have too overseas. The Obama Administration has continued this massive spending, and we've done nothing.

You have some people like Christie who are practically praising the way Obama's been doing things. We're not going to do any better overseas if we continue these policies. It's anything but fiscally conservative when you're praising someone who's been spending trillions and trillions overseas. When I served in the military, we didn't waste time and money. We got the mission done. I represent the millions of Americans when I say our foreign policy is a joke. If we're going to actually stop our enemies overseas, we need to get the mission done and stop wasting time. (audience cheers)

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2.- With growth stagnant and the unemployment state still high most voters place the economy as the most important issue. How can you reassure the voters that you are the right choice to restore economic growth?

Y'know, back in 2002 and 2003, Kentucky was also dealing with a stagnant economy. Education funding was flat, Infrastructure funding was flat, and we had a billion dollar deficit. I've been able to actually increase education spending, increase infrastructure spending, and we created hundreds of thousands of jobs. We didn't increase taxes either, we cut state taxes, and at the same time, we balanced the budget and created a surplus. The economy was vibrant in Kentucky again, and we were on a path to success. I've got real world experience when it comes to dealing with stagnant economy.

And you know when I was in the House, I didn't shy from cutting taxes. I voted for every single tax cut. We phased out the death tax, we cut small business tax, and we cut the income tax. These taxes only burdened the economy, and when they took effect, they created hundreds of thousands of jobs nationwide.

If we're going to get this economy moving, then we need someone with governing experience in getting an economy moving (audience clapping), and our economy now needs some relief more than ever. People needs jobs, people need tax relief, people need recovery now more than ever in a stagnant economy.

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3.- Crime remains at very high levels in some cities across America such as Detroit, while at the same time crime appears to be lower at some other regions of America. How do we fight crime more effectively?

Under President Ernie, we're going to clean up our inner cities. We're going to work on proven plans, and we're going to clean up our spoiled housing, we're going to get our kids in schools, not on streets. We have to increase drop out age because what happens is we let our kids drop out, and suddenly, crime spikes. We let our housing go spoiled, and suddenly, crime spikes. It's been proven again and again that ignoring this hurts our inner cities and increases crime. We've got to have real plans for our cities NOW. (audience claps)

Y'know, you hear all this talk from politicians about keeping crime low, and they never have plans. It's all talk, folks. You've got to have real plans to fix these problems. Our inner cities are being left alone because these politicians don't actually get the job done. They talk, as if, all these cities have the exact same problem. These kind of things are just rhetoric, and do not reflect what these communities need now, and that's real solutions. (audience claps)

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4.- The price of gas is also noted as historically high, particularly as the price of oil continues to rise in the middle of severe instability in the Middle East. What is your plan to lower the price of gas for Americans?

I'm tired of the companies in the Middle East raising their prices every time our families go out for vacation in the Spring & Summer (audience claps) We have 1.4 trillion barrels of oils in reserve. We could potentially be the biggest oil producer in the world: Bigger than Saudi Arabia, Bigger than Russia. We have vastly more resources than any country in the world if we use it. If we maximized our production right here, we would have a dramatic increase in American production, and gas prices would dramatically decrease for people here.

We let our prices get higher and higher because we let people overseas control it. We have huge gas prices because of that. We import far too much for us to have a reasonable gas price. America could easily be one of the biggest oil producing nation, but we don't let it happen. Let it be known that we CAN get gas prices at $2.50 (audience claps).


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
"The Candidate You Can Trust"
Ernie Fletcher's 5th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, New Hampshire, and Missouri

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher

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(pardon the extremely pixelated image)

"What I believed in the 90s"





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"is that our country leader's spend too much time working to divide rather than to serve"





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"And that we must focus on getting the job done rather than this useless rhetoric, and in Congress, I spent every day to get the job done."





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"Today, I couldn't be more outspoken that this country needs some real leadership that sticks to their values. I'm tired of the talking, let's win the future."





I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 03, 2018, 09:51:57 PM
"He Served"
Ernie Fletcher's 3rd Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, New Hampshire, and Missouri

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Veteran #1: "We arrived in Vietnam in December, December 10th"
Veteran #2: "We were fighting in what was called Viet Cong. Some just called it North Vietnam."
Veteran #3: "I was there for more than a year, and by then, we had at least 75 wounded"




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Veteran #1: "They broke through our lines. It was hell. We had about 52 wounded and 21 killed after the first year, maybe more. I was one of the 12 to come back home."




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Veteran #2: "We had over 100 wounded at least and 62 dead. Vietnam was hell. Stuff like that, you just don't forget."




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Veteran #3: "48 years ago, I had my helicopter shot down. I know several of the people I knew had died in combat. I can't believe I made it alive. Life after the war was tough. We didn't get thanked for our service. Never."




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Veteran #2: "Corporal Ernie thanked me for my service. It was a... rewarding feeling. Especially coming from another veteran."




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Veteran #1: "Takes a Veteran to understand a Veteran,"




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Veteran #1: "And he is a Veteran."




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Veteran #3: "He has a Veteran's best interest in mind. He knows when he makes foreign policy decisions that it affects lives. Ernie Fletcher is a Veteran's best friend. After all, he did serve."




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Veteran #1: "And he said.. 'Thank you for your service.' tearing up"






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I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:52:36 PM
Walter Jones Campaign GOTV Strategy: New Hampshire

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The Jones campaign has not invested in the New Hampshire primary as much as others. However, they are hoping to exceed expectations with a strong GOTV machine. The campaign has utilized its grassroots supporters to attract people to the polls, and has been particularly seeking independents and Tea Party Republicans. One surrogate seen frequently on the stump for Jones in the final week is former Senator Bob Smith, who still holds a following among New Hampshire conservatives. One area focused on by the campaign is the rural north, whose voters can be more easily reached one-on-one and who might find an independent candidate like Jones receptive. One final hallmark of the New Hampshire campaign has been to peel off voters from Fred Upton, who has been MIA over the past few weeks. The Jones campaign is appealing to Upton supporters by highlighting Jones's breaks from Republican orthodoxy as well, and as the real viable anti-establishment candidate in the state. With these efforts, the Jones campaign hopes to break double digits and make a respectable showing.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 03, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
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INTERVIEWER: Do you expect to win here in New Hampshire?

JONES: That doesn't seem likely. Governor Christie's built up quite a lead here. What we can do, though, is expose Governor Christie as the establishment candidate that he is and show conservatives that there's a better way forward in 2012. That's why I've been going back here in New Hampshire and meeting some more voters until the polls close. We can still make a dent here.

INTERVIEWER: You're hovering in the polls here with Governor Fletcher and Congressman Upton. Do you think you can beat them?

JONES: Sure! I feel rather confident about that. Congressman Upton in particular seems to have given up campaigning recently. I'd like to make an overture to his supporters. He's talked about being an independent Republican who isn't bound by the party line. Well, so am I. No one in the Republican leadership can control me or how I vote. This is the Live Free or Die state, and I think people who like Fred's message--as well as many other voters--will find my message to be refreshing. We can't stick with the same old Washington politics if we want to see people's lives get better. That's why I'm running.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on February 03, 2018, 10:04:19 PM
Representative Upton drops out in the race of the nomination and endorsed Fmr. Governor Fletcher hoping for a Vp pick when the convention comes around.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 03, 2018, 10:33:51 PM
What Carolla did part 2
Carolla campagined with Bruce Willis and Donald Trump throughout New Hampshire and campagined on the dangers of a Chris Christie presidency and talked about his tax plan his healthcare plan and his plan to get out of NAFTA and talked about embracing real free trade.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 04, 2018, 05:43:35 PM
New Hampshire Primary Results:

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"After a few hours of speculation on the potential size of a Clinton victory, we can confirm without doubt that Senator Hillary Clinton wins the New Hampshire Primary on a resounding victory against Vice-President Biden. On the other side, Vice-President Biden can draw some optimistic from riding an unexpected wave of so called "progressive" support which has seen Senator Clinton remaining slightly below 60%:

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Democratic New Hampshire Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 59.79% (17)
Joe Biden: 40.21% (11)

Democratic Primary:

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Delegates:

Hillary Clinton: 42
Joe Biden: 42

Superdelegates:
(Not included in the delegate count above)

Hillary Clinton: 12
Joe Biden: 7

"On the other side, the Republican Party sees a minor upset as Chris Christie underperforms after a harsh barrage of attacks against his campaign. Indeed, it seems the continued division of his opponents has saved the Governor from a larger embarassment, as his closest rival Ron Paul manages to break 25%. On a strong third Adam Carolla delivers on a decent result, and both Walter Jones and Ernie Fletcher manage to hold their ground above 10%.

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Republican New Hampshire Primary:

Chris Christie: 33.91% (5)
Ron Paul: 25.16% (3)
Adam Carolla: 18.75% (2)
Walter Jones: 12.03% (1)
Ernie Fletcher: 10.15% (1)


Republican Primary:

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Delegates:

Chris Christie: 24
Ernie Fletcher: 6
Ron Paul: 5
Walter Jones: 3
Adam Carolla: 2


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 08, 2018, 06:35:36 PM
Turn Seven: Looking for Springboards:
January 11th to January 21st, 2012

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In the News!

Two in a row for Clinton and Christie
Rivals doing better than expected, but can they rise further?

Democrats to the left?
Biden, Clinton embrace of SSM and other issues see Republicans take the lead

Governor Scott Walker to face recall election
One million signatures gathered to recall Wisconsin Republican governor

1.- Turn: This turn of roughly 10 days will take us to the Republican South Carolina Primary, and the Democratic Nevada Caucus. Please keep in mind the difference in which state goes for which party, and also keep in mind that the differences between a primary and a caucus can be exploited to your own advantage... if you're creative enough. Good luck!

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 47%
Generic Democrat: 42%
Wesley Clark: 8%
Undecided: 3%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Chris Christie: 30%
Ernie Fletcher: 22%
Walter Jones: 20%
Ron Paul: 15%
Adam Carolla: 11%
Undecided: 2%

Republicans: Too son or too late?

For the first time, Chris Christie had been wounded by his rivals. Focused fire on his record meant the Governor was drowned out at times despite his skilled efforts as defending and attacking, and the loss was felt in New Hampshire and nationwide as some doubts were opened on his conservative credentials. On the other hand, the continued division of his rivals meant no candidate was strong enough to overcome Christie in New Hampshire, giving the Governor twin victories which may turn into unstoppable momentum if he triumphs in South Carolina and Florida.

On the other side and with Fred Upton gone, Walter Jones's momentum was halted by attacks on his record (and foreign policy views as well), and with Iowa and New Hampshire gone his status as a potential "anti-Christie" has weakened. Adam Carolla and Ron Paul benefited from strong debate performances and well aimed attacks, yet squandered much potential for growth on account of their stance on drugs - seemingly unpopular among most Republicans). Ultimately, the one who rose the most (if only for a couple of points) was Governor Fletcher, who has managed to avoid attacks to quietly position himself as a credible social conservative alternative. An ultimate test of sorts comes now in South Carolina, a state Christie has little chance to win.

Can Jones or Fletcher seize this unique chance to become the anti-Christie candidate?

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 43%
Undecided: 4%

Democrats: Racing to the Left

With a New Hampshire blowout seen as virtually secure, observers who saw Clinton as inevitable may have spoken too soon. An endorsement of Senator Russ Feingold and the adoption of a more openly progressive message in the debate and the campaign trail gave Vice-President Biden a fighting chance, and while when the smoke cleared out Senator Clinton has still scored a resounding victory in New Hampshire Biden had secured a respectable showing, and a tie in the delegate numbers (withut superdelegates). Clinton herself has been seen as taking on a more progressive message to counter Biden, with some positive and some negative results.

With the race tightening despite the sizable, strong Clinton lead and with national polling showing the Democrats falling behind the upcoming contests may be decisive for Biden to become truly viable or for Clinton to dispatch her rival before the primary turns long and grueling. And while South Carolina appears more decisive than Nevada, a victory in the caucus for either candidate will be seen as important momentum going forward (and in Clinton's case, having three significant victories in a row).


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 08, 2018, 06:44:32 PM
GOP Average Polling:

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Ernie Fletcher: 33%
Walter Jones: 31%
Chris Christie: 20%
Ron Paul: 8%
Adam Carolla: 6%
Undecided: 2%

FLORIDA:

Chris Christie: 33%
Adam Carolla: 17%
Ernie Fletcher: 16%
Walter Jones: 15%
Ron Paul: 14%
Undecided: 5%

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 31%
Adam Carolla: 18%
Chris Christie: 16%
Walter Jones: 15%
Ernie Fletcher: 13%
Fred Upton: 0%
Undecided: 5%

MAINE:

Chris Christie: 29%
Ron Paul: 27%
Adam Carolla: 15%
Walter Jones: 12%
Ernie Fletcher: 11%
Undecided: 6%

MINNESOTA:

Ernie Fletcher: 26%
Walter Jones: 25%
Ron Paul: 23%
Chris Christie: 13%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Undecided: 5%

COLORADO:

Chris Christie: 31%
Walter Jones: 19%
Ernie Fletcher: 19%
Ron Paul: 13%
Adam Carolla: 11%
Undecided: 7%

MISSOURI:

Ernie Fletcher: 30%
Walter Jones: 28%
Chris Christie: 21%
Ron Paul: 10%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Undecided: 4%

ARIZONA:

Chris Christie: 30%
Walter Jones: 24%
Ernie Fletcher: 21%
Ron Paul: 11%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Undecided: 6%

MICHIGAN:

Ernie Fletcher: 33%
Chris Christie: 28%
Walter Jones: 20%
Ron Paul: 8%
Adam Carolla: 5%
Undecided: 6%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 08, 2018, 06:51:14 PM
DEM Average Polling:

NEVADA:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 43%
Undecided: 3%

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Hillary Clinton: 51%
Joe Biden: 48%
Undecided: 1%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 58%
Joe Biden: 38%
Undecided: 3%

MAINE:

Hillary Clinton: 52%
Joe Biden: 43%
Undecided: 5%

ARIZONA:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 5%

MICHIGAN:

Hillary Clinton: 50%
Joe Biden: 46%
Undecided: 4%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 08, 2018, 06:55:55 PM
Endorsements from Turn Six:

Christie: Nikki Haley, John McCain.
Fletcher: Marco Rubio, The Post & Courier.
Corella: Sylvester Stallone, Bruce Willis.
Paul: Peter Schiff
Jones: Joe Arpaio, Michael Savage.

Clinton: Dan Malloy, Brian Schweitzer.
Biden: Carl Levin, John Lewis.

Clark: Carte Goodwin, Artur Davis.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 08, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
Carolla on social media
Despite the rigged mainstream polls. We are still in it to win it.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 08, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
Joe Biden-New Endorsements/Surrogate Schedule

Vice President Biden is honored to welcome the following individuals to or campaign:

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Former Vice President Gore will be campaigning in South Carolina, Florida and Michigan

Senator Brown will be campaigning in Ohio

Beau Biden will be campaigning in Nevada and South Carolina

Jim Clyburn will be campaigning in South Carolina

John Lewis will be campaigning in South Carolina

Carl Levin will be campaigning in Michigan

Russ Feingold will be campaigning in Michigan and Nevada.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Orwell on February 09, 2018, 06:20:34 PM
Fred Upton (After Endorsing Fletcher)


Representative Upton is going to spending most of his time in Wisconsin campaigning against Governor Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 09, 2018, 08:48:40 PM
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Campaign Schedule
Jan. 11 - Jan. 21
Schedule
January 11-21: South Carolina

January 11: Ernie flew to Rock Hill, South Carolina overnight as Glenna Fletcher gave a Post- Results Speech in New Hampshire. Ernie holds a series of Town Halls in colleges and universities across Rock Hill. He brags a little about his outperformance in New Hampshire and Iowa. After, Ernie held a Meet & Greet at York County Library. Fletcher ends the day meeting with local business leaders in Greenville, South Carolina talking about pro- local business policy.

January 12: Fletcher was honored to be endorsed by The Greenville Newspaper on the 12th of January. Greenville Newspaper called Governor Fletcher "the candidate that can bring the biggest economic recovery of the Republican candidates" and "the most credible to bring change, even with a Democrat- controlled Senate". The newspaper also cited in 2003 when Ernie won 1/4 of the Democrat vote in the Governor election, stating it's proof he can unite people. Ernie had table discussions with local business leaders with them from Myrtle Beach, Columbia, Spartanburg, Aiken, and Florence, they talked about pro- small business policy and federal tax policy. Governor Fletcher then holds a town hall in Florence Civic Center.

January 13: Fletcher began the day showing up on a local television news station in Central South Carolina. He talked about several campaign platforms of his, and ranted about Washington rhetoric, stating "People don't really care about what the people in Washington complain about. We just need things done." Fletcher later holds a town hall in Historic Beaufort Campus, and then meets with voters at Bricks on Boundary. Governor Fletcher drives to Columbia, SC to hold a fundraiser in the Columbia Metropolitan Convention Center where he's joined by Senator Jim DeMint

January 14: Ernie begins the day holding a Press Conference, and after that, does a one on one interview with FOX News where he talks about the momentum in South Carolina, what he calls "The Fletcher Coalition" to put him over the top in the primary. He explains his veteran policy and tax policy if elected President, "I voted for every tax cut in my time as a Representative, and I cut taxes when I was a governor. I know what it means to these local business leaders because my father had his own small business. It's a burden. We're going to have only 4 tax brackets, remove the death tax, cut the corporate tax to 20%, and give the small businesses of our nation some relief." After the interview, Ernie drove to Spartanburg to do a Campaign Rally in Spartanburg Memorial Auditorium and was joined by Veteran and Former Governor of Missouri Matt Blunt. He said Ernie "has the real credentials to unite this country" and "He's the one that can get job done"

January 15: Governor Fletcher sat down to give various local radio interviews in South Carolina. He touted the tax cuts that he passed and signed as Governor of Kentucky, aswell as his education funding and balanced budget. Ernie then took to the campaign trail when he did a "Barnstorm" tour in Saluda county, Edgefield county, and Greenwood county. Ernie emphasized the importance of not just fighting for the farmers in Iowa, but every single American farmer. He held a series of Town Halls in areas including Piedmont Technical College, Lander University, and Greenwood Community Theatre. He sat down with local business owners and talked about upholding pro- business policy on the federal level.

January 16: Governor Fletcher continued his "barnstorm" tour in Newberry County. He set up only 2 town Halls in the county, and discussed about local problems including education, taxes, etc and said "It's about time we had people in government that cared about issues close to home rather than games of political points." After, he held a rally at River Bluff High School in Lexington, South Carolina. He rambled on a lot about his childhood, "We use to have public servants that were worth defending. When I was growing up, you had President Kennedy. When he cut taxes, those were a life saver. My father had ran a market during that time. These tax cuts can really be a life saver to some families." The rally was later joined by Newt Gingrich who said "Gas prices have been rising for our families for the past 4 years. We've let people overseas control our oil. If we just had people here producing our oil, we could have some lower gas prices for once. Governor Fletcher has the most competence among the Republican contenders to get us some lower gas prices for once." Ernie finished the day meeting with voters at local Diners.

January 17: After the rally in Lexington, Governor Fletcher went on another "barnstorm" tour in Horry County and Georgetown County. Ernie met with local fishermen and emphasized the importance of "Negotiating trade deals with first world countries that benefit us and our the people here at home" and stated "This'll be one of my top priorities as President." Ernie met with people who work in Manufacturing across Horry and Georgetown County and discussed about pro- manufacturing policy. Later, he held a series of Town Halls across the Horry County, Georgetown County, and Charleston County and talked about how "We don't need same ol' same. We need economic recovery now. Our economy is stagnant, our people are sick, our education funding is flat, and we're still spending trillions more than we make. Now is not the time to continue useless games of politics. It's time for real economic recovery. It's time for a country that gives the American people a future they can win."

January 18: Governor Fletcher begins the day meeting with local parents and teachers concerned about education spending and education reform. Afterwards, he does a brief, on-the-phone interview with MSNBC talking about momentum coming out of South Carolina. Ernie emphasized "This country needs someone who can unify. I'm running for people regardless of party." He went on to hold a campaign rally in the TD Arena in Charleston, SC where he spoke about "In times of a stagnant economy, family matters. It is our duty to protect the families of our nation."

January 19: Governor Fletcher sat down with the Post & Courier's editorial board to talk about another article supporting Ernie. The article double downed on his belief that "Politicians are focusing on political games and not on local issues. I'm not going to play those games" and he explained his plan for Tax Policy. It also mentioned his vote in 2001 to eliminate the Senior Earnings Tax. He also sat down with the Greenville Newspaper Editorial Board for an article to support Ernie Fletcher. It talked about Ernie being "The candidate whose going to pass reform" and reminded readers about the legislation he passed as Governor of Kentucky while Democrats controlled the State House including tax reform, education funding, a balanced budget, etc. It stated "If Ernie is elected, those things will happen in Washington." Governor Fletcher, later, continued his "barnstorm" tour in Horry and Georgetown County. He held some Town Halls throughout those counties, where he explained his tax policy and crime policy.

January 20: Ernie gives another brief, on-the-phone interview with CNN the day before the caucus. He flies out to Columbia, South Carolina. Ernie holds his last, massive Campaign Rally until the South Carolina Primary in the Colonial Life Arena, and talked about "We have the momentum to win tomorrow. We're going to bring actual change. South Carolina is the first step. We're going to win here tomorrow!" He also said "Our campaign isn't about all the big surrogates behind us. Our campaign is about you." After, Ernie drove off to the South Carolina Campaign HQ to meet with Staff & Volunteers. He had a pep talk with the staffers "This campaign is about who will actually fix the problems. Let's fight a good fight." He talked with them about the GOTV Strategy. After, Ernie met voters at a local basketball game, and talked with them about local issues involving education, crime, and taxes.

January 21: Fletcher began caucus day meeting with staff and volunteers making sure they had a GOTV Plan. Ernie went meeting potential voters at local Diners. He talked to them about local issues, and tried convincing those voters to vote for him in the primaries. He made some GOTV Calls to potential voters. By noon, Ernie took to door-to-door campaigning with campaign staff to get people to get out and vote.

By sunset, Ernie gets off the trail to hold a Results Rally at his South Carolina Campaign HQ. By the time major news agencies project a winner of the Primary, Ernie delivers a post- primary results speech and meets with supporters.



South Carolina ( January 11 - January 21 )
Key Issues: Religious Freedom, Family Values, Balanced Budget, Free Trade, Education Reform




Campaign Staff Operations
  • Reach Out to Evangelicals, emphasizing his career as a Preacher
  • Reaching out to former Jindal supporters, emphasizing Fletcher's record of bringing change
  • Reach out to Ron Paul supporters, emphasizing the National Review's unfair attack on Fletcher (as evidence that he can not only win, but take on media bias)
  • Defending Fletcher after the attack by the National Review, calling it irrelevant to any policy debate
  • Knocking door to door in early caucus & primary states
  • Promoting rallies to get them televised
  • Promoting the Post & Courier's & The Greenville Newspaper's endorsement on Radio Ads
  • Spreading the campaign message of unity and strong change with a plan

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 10, 2018, 01:18:11 AM
Campaign Highlights
Part One

Glenna Fletcher delivers Post- Primary Results Speech
1.10.12
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"This tremendous movement right here. (audience cheers) You all made history tonight. Our campaign is, now, ready to bring a future for all of us, every American, and this great momentum is proof that that is ready to happen. We are going to make history! (audience cheers)

Tonight, we broke double digits despite polling well under that. I can't thank the volunteers and staffers of this campaign enough. The great people that volunteered their own time for a movement to bring something new. To bring an end to these useless games of politics and bring something real to the American people. Tonight, we proved that we don't have to play silly political games to get the momentum. We can talk about the issues. Bring something new for the people of New Hampshire (audience cheers) and every other part of the country! I think that is such an amazing statement for our nation. (audience cheers)

And I can't thank Representative Fred Upton enough for his support of our campaign before the primary. He made a very good decision in who to support. (audience cheers) And now, we look forward to the other 48 states and 5 territories for who they will vote, but we'll be back! Good night!"

The Greenville Newspaper endorses Ernie Fletcher for President
1.11.12
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Congrats, fellow South Carolinians. Not only do you participate in one of the most decisive, important presidential elections, we're the third in the nation to decide who the nominee will be (at least for the Republicans) and a very key part of the nomination process. We encourage the people of South Carolina to do one thing with that opportunity. Vote. And when you do exercise that precious right, we urge you to cast your ballot for Ernie Fletcher this season.

With the country becoming more and more divided, Ernie Fletcher is showing to be more and more qualified to bind the wounds of this nation and avoid games of politics. We cannot say the same for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or the other Republican Contenders. When Ernie Fletcher won over a quarter of democrats and won the biggest margin for any Republican contender for the Kentucky Governorship ever, he showed that he is the one that can unify our nation in dark times.

This election is showing to be much about who will recover the economy after a recession and a stagnant economy (at the moment). Which candidate has the most credentials with dealing with a stagnant economy?

Ernie Fletcher is the only major candidate who has serious credentials when dealing with stagnant economies. As Kentucky Governor, he reformed education, increased infrastructure spending and still had time to cut taxes (and that's just a few of his accomplishments). At the same time, he reversed a large state deficit and had the economy growing quickly. The years before his term, Kentucky was considered a stagnant economy, just like you'd consider the United States right now.

At the same time, Kentucky Democrats controlled one branch of their state legislature, just like Democrats do now. Ernie still was able to pass all these accomplishments that stimulated the economy for the better, and we'd say Ernie has beyond the credentials to cut the political games in Washington, even with a Democrat- controlled Senate, and get real reform passed for actual economic recovery.

And the best part? Ernie has been standing up for all these things his entire political career silently. In the House, he voted for every single tax cut, including those for local small business. When he ran for Governor, he was still talking about how politicians need to stop the games of politics. Governor Ernie Fletcher is someone you KNOW will continue to stand up for the things that matter to South Carolinians.

The bottom line? Governor Ernie Fletcher is, by-far, the best person to actually represent the American people and get reform passed quickly.

Fletcher shows up on local news stations
1.13.12
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Reporter: Alright, this morning, we've got a special guest to join us for today's scoop. It's Governor Ernie Fletcher, running for President. He's been out here on the campaign trail in South Carolina recently, and we'd like our viewers to understand who they're voting for. Thank you for joining us, Governor.

Ernie Fletcher: Glad to be here

Reporter: Alright, Governor, we're going to ask you a couple questions, so the viewers can get to know you a little. You've been out recently in the big South Carolina cities like Columbia and Charleston. Can you explain a little how you'd help lower crime in those cities?

Ernie Fletcher: Well, it'd really help if we didn't have all this spoiled housing out here in big cities because you leave it spoiled in these cities, and the crime suddenly has free housing. It's been proving again and again that cleaning up this spoiled housing eliminates crime. Cleaning crime would be a priority of mine in the first year. I'd also be working on upholding the Three Strikes Law because it's been proven effective again and again that it keeps violent criminals out of the streets. I'd make these efforts on my priority list. It really does effect our cities

Reporter: Alright, you've also made cleaning up political games a key part of your campaign, can you elaborate on that?

Ernie Fletcher: Look, people just want relief. I don't understand why politicians play this game like the majority of people care. I've said this all my life: We cannot continue to allow government to be consumed by this game of political 'gotcha. People don't really care about what the people in Washington complain about. We just need things done.

Reporter: Thank you, two more questions: Most South Carolinians, especially Republicans, are very critical of the current tax rates. What's your tax policy?

Ernie Fletcher: My tax policy is what it's always has been: Simple tax brackets, every American gets a cut, no removing tax deductions. My plan is to have 4 simple tax brackets, 9.5%, 13%, 24%, and 35%. I'll cut the corporate tax to 20%, and get rid of the death tax. When I was the Kentucky Governor, I got 125,000 Kentuckians off the state tax rolls entirely, gutted the corporate license tax, and cut the corporation income tax. When I was in the House, I joined the fight against the Senior Earnings Tax, got nearly 50 billion cut on small businesses taxes, and that's just some examples. You can trust me to cut taxes.

Reporter: And last question, religious freedom is a big subject here in rural South Carolina. What's your view on it?

Ernie Fletcher: Well, I was a preacher in a church in Northern Kentucky, so you can probably imagine my views. I support the people out here wanting kids in our school to be allowed to participate in voluntary prayer. Religion means a lot in rough times like these with a stagnant economy right after a recession. I, 100%, support their right to religious freedom.

Reporter: Alright, thank you, Governor Fletcher. We'll be back with our next news story after the break.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 10, 2018, 01:47:45 AM
Republican Presidential Debate-From South Carolina

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Good evening, I'm Elaine Quijano, and this is a Republican Presidential Debate. We will be holding this debate in a format which allows for candidates to respond to questions from me, as well as respond to each other. I ask that the audience here to be silent, except as the candidates walk onto the stage,
starting now.


To Christie: Some have called you "the most abrasive Governor in America". Do you believe this style will be effective to work with Congress?

To Christie: Do you believe a Northeastern Governor can win the nomination of a largely conservative, Southern party, especially after the failure of Mitt Romney to do so in 2008?

To Fletcher: Do you support repealing and replacing Obamacare, or just straight repealing Obamacare?

To Fletcher: What is your position on renewable energy?

To Jones: Why has your campaign caught fire here, while Congressman Paul's hasn't?

To Jones and Paul: If John Boehner announced he was stepping down as Speaker of the House today who would you vote for to replace him?

To Paul:As the most Libertarian candidate running, can you promise that if you do not do well in the Republican primary, you will not seek the Libertarian nomination? [/i]

To Carolla: Many establishment Republicans have suggested that you are the most unqualified candidate to run for the Presidency in the modern era. Do you believe that you are qualified to be President of the United States?

To All: What is your position on online gambling?

To All: Do you have a plan to end the war in Afghanistan?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 10, 2018, 07:49:17 AM
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6th Democratic Presidential Debate


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General Questions.

1.) If you were President, what would you do when the Bush Tax cuts expire in 2012? Will you seek to keep all the tax cuts in place, or just those for middle class Americans?

2.) If elected President, a crucial factor will be which party controls the Senate and the House. Why are you the best candidate to help Democrats keep the Senate, and win back the House?

3.) And in relation to the last question, would you want Leader Pelosi to continue to lead the democrats in the House?



Hillary Clinton

1.) You ran a very aggressive campaign against President Obama in 2008, and launched a primary challenge against him in 2012. How are you going to reach out, and win the support of those voters who strongly support President Obama, when you've been so disloyal to him?

2.) The African-American community play a key role in the South Carolina Primary, and many other primaries across the South. Whilst you and President Clinton, have always been close to the community, several leading figures such as John Lewis have endorsed President Biden. How can you appeal to the African-American community?


Joe Biden.


1.) Mr Vice-President, many feminist and African-Americans have questioned you're handling of the Anita Hill hearing back in the 1990s, when Justice Thomas was nominated. How can you reassure activists that you're on the side of women, when you failed to protect Anita Hill from a barrage of attacks?

2.) In June of 2011, you lead bi-partisan talks to seek a deal on cutting the deficit, that failed to reach an agreement. After your many years in Washington D.C, have you lost the ability to effectively manage congress?



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 10, 2018, 11:54:08 AM
Carolla debate answers part 1
1.*He laughs when she says the establishment thinks he’s the most unqualified candidate*
Well I surely do fit the 3 main qualifications.  I am over 35,I am a natural born Amercian citizen and I have lived here for all my life so yeah legally I am qualified to run for President. As for saying if I am fit for being a leader?

Well America is in dire need of change and someone who will actually bring it.  You might say we tried that in 2008 and that failed but here’s the thing Mr Obama showed signs that he was full of it early on.

If Amercia wants change you need to elect someone who isn’t knee deep into the swamp of DC. Someone like me who is obviously not a politician and is a normal citizen who unlike most people on this stage tonight I am not being paid to say things to impress any donors so I can get a big fat check.

Beside if you look at my economic plan it is prob the most conservative out of all the candidates according to Forbes magazine. Many economists have looked at my plan and said yeah this is what we should expect from a conservative presidency.   Sure I do plan to go hard on Wall Street and Political donors. However it’s all about transparency. You can put many hit pieces you want. It’s not going to change my campaign and the message I am getting out.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 10, 2018, 01:19:02 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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Chris Christie New Hampshire Victory Speech.

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Thank you New Hampshire. Thank you. It's been quite a journey hasn't it? Ever since I declared in September I knew that the route to the White House would run through New Hampshire, and boy, thank you for this boost New Hampshire.

It's been a great honour to travel the state, to meet with voters in diners, veteran halls, cafeterias and colleges. It's been a great honour to have the support of Senator Kelly Ayotte, and Leader Bradley, and of course the indomitable Senator, John McCain. But the greatest honour is the trust that you've put in me tonight; the trust to unify our party, the trust to be your republican nominee, the trust to win in November... and most of all, the trust to fight for all Americans.

We know that Hillary Clinton, and the Democrats simply have the wrong ideas, at the most challenging time in our countries history. They want to keep Obamacare, and it's job killing taxes. They want to keep every suffocating regulation, they want to trample on the religious liberties of millions of Americans, and they want to burden the next generation of Americans with even more debt, so that they can appease their friends in the unions, and their other special interest groups. We know that the Democrats simply don't have the right ideas to lift America up, and we know that Hillary Clinton simply isn't the person to bring Americans together.

What I learnt in New Hampshire, and Iowa, is that politicians should spend less time listening to the talking heads on cable news, and more time listening to the folks who are out there working 10 hour days, just to get food on the table. Let's listen to the farmers who are seeing the federal government trample over their businesses, let's listen to the small businesses facing tax hike after tax hike, lets listen to the parents who are fed of the union controlled public schools failing their kids. The American people, from Manchester, to Charleston, from San Antonio, to San Diego, from Denver to Detroit, they want change. They want their government back. They want someone to fight for them.

So thank you New Hampshire for your trust. Let's continue our fight for the greatest country in the history of the world. Let's continue  fighting for America.

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Governor Daniels on Fox News: 'Historic Victory for Christie', 'Chris is a true conservative, who can beat Hillary Clinton'.

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Now look, I know some folks in the primary have been hitting Governor Christie, and well that's the nature of running for President. You're gonna take a lot of flak, but let's remember that this is historic. Governor Christie is the first candidate to win both Iowa, and New Hampshire. In an open race a republican hasn't won both Iowa and New Hampshire in the modern era. McCain lost in Iowa, Bush lost in New Hampshire. It's because republican voters like to have a good look, and frankly in both Iowa, and New Hampshire, with two very different electorates ,Governor Christie won both times. And that's because republican voters know three things; he's got a history of real conservative reforms in New Jersey, whether it's on taking on the unions, or the Democratic stacked Supreme Court. He's the only candidate who beat the Clinton Machine, and he's the only republican who's actually released real conservative plans to eliminate the deficit, to cut taxes and to use the market, not the state, to create millions of jobs.

I'll continue to be out on the campaign trail, with other republican Governors campaigning for Governor Christie, because I know that he's a true conservative, and I know that he's the only guy running who can defeat Hillary Clinton.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 10, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
Carolla debate answers part 2
What is your position on online gambling?

Carolla:Well I think stuff like the lottery is stupid and a waste of time. However if you want to bet on sporting events like the Super Bowl coming up that’s fine. Just don’t get too addicted to it and I don’t see why the government should get involved and say yeah you can’t do this.  I may not be the biggest fan of doing it but it doesn’t bother me if someone wants to do it and at least try to careful.

So whille I wouldn’t be the one to say hey I am going to go put money on the line on the internet. As long as someone else doesn’t get too carried away with it. It wouldn’t bother me if someone else does it.

3.Well I think we should find  and get Bin Laden and get all the remanding top dogs of the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other groups and then I think we should get out. We don’t want to overstay our visit in Afghanistan any longer.  Its already longer than Vietnam!!  So yes it is simple. We are in the final stages and we need to wrap it up and bring the boys back home.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 10, 2018, 03:16:00 PM
Biden debate answers (barring responses to Clinton, of course)

1. I will seek to keep the Bush tax cuts for the poor and middle class, but I will seek to raise taxes on the top 10% of wealthy individuals and corporations.

2. I have far fewer ethical problems than Senator Clinton does...and it's really that simple. We really don't need to go back to the scandal-stricken tawdriness of the Clinton White House of the 1990's, which led to Republicans taking over Congress in 1994, and two Government shutdowns in 1995 and 1996. A Clinton nomination will cost us more House seats, and will cost us the Senate.

3. The fact is, if you look at Nancy Pelosi's voting record, she's very progressive on a wide variety of issues. Could we do better? Sure, but Pelosi is hardly a bad choice to begin with.

4. I was wrong to not filibuster Clarence Thomas. I was wrong to allow Clarence Thomas a hearing on the Judiciary Committee. He does not deserve a place on the highest court on the land.

4. It's not my fault Republicans in Congress were more interested in denying President Obama any achievement whatsoever, in what was obviously blatant racism. Seriously, we haven't seen anything this bad since before the Civil War.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 10, 2018, 04:11:56 PM
Joe Biden Schedule Summary

Vice President Biden spent the eleven days leading up the Nevada Caucuses in South Carolina, with the exception of the final three days before the caucuses, as he made a clear effort to win the South Carolina Primary.

His Election Night rally at the Mandalay Bay Events Center, was held with all surrogates (except for John Kerry and Jim Clyburn).



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 10, 2018, 04:13:47 PM
What Carolla did part 1
Carolla went out and campaigned in Florida and called out the media for their biases and how they want to election to be Chris Christie vs Hillary Clinton.

He also campagined on tax reform and the space program.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on February 10, 2018, 06:00:38 PM


”...Connecticut, I’ve served you for years. We don’t need a Christie or a Clinton in the White House, we need Clark...


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on February 10, 2018, 06:08:56 PM
Wesley Clark Interview on CNN:

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Wolf Blitzer: Now we have scored an interview with General Wesley Clark, and we have some questions for him. General Clark, great to have you on, let’s get down to business if you don’t mind. What is your opinion on the Libya Intervention?

General Clark: Thanks, great to be on Wolf, well about that... I’m a former General, I know a lot about the military, I’ve been in it my whole life... I don’t understand if what President Obama did here was just because he’s unqualified and too inexperienced for the Presidency, or if he’s just plain stupid. Hell, it’s just gonna cause more problems in a horrifically unstable area of the world. Mark my words America, no new unnecessary foreign wars in the Middle East if you elect me.

Wolf Blitzer: Alright, I have another question. What is your opinion on the current state of the primaries on both sides. You have Senator Clinton and Governor Christie with two victories on both sides, which may change. Why do you think you, as a third party contender, can compete with them in the General, if they’re nominated?

General Clark: I’m glad you asked that Wolf, just look at the primaries. You see a puppet of Wall Street leading the Democrats, a foreign policy hawk, a political opportunist leading them. The democrats are honestly like rats fleeing a sinking ship, heck the President was so unpopular he was forced to drop out. The Republicans are just running on another four years of George Bush, and we cant have that again, we know we can’t. I’m the only candidate who will bring the U.S economy back to where it needs to be, and give the U.S a sensible foreign policy. America, let’s try something new after years of failure.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 10, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
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To Christie: Some have called you "the most abrasive Governor in America". Do you believe this style will be effective to work with Congress?

Well, I've been called a lot of things in this campaign, but I think being called the 'most abrasive' Governor in America, is something that I'm gonna wear as a badge of honor.

Look, I know that Americans are absolutely fed up of weak politicians who are too cowardly to tell the American public the truth. We tried having a laid back President, who gives everyone easy answers, with Barack Obama, and it's been a disaster. But if folks are for some reason worried about my style, and how I'll work with Congress, I'll point them to great results we've had in New Jersey.

I've managed to get real conservative reforms in New Jersey by standing up, and telling it like it is. I've not minced my words, and I haven't been afraid to tell people, both republicans and Democrats, when they're wrong. When the Democrats in control of the legislature tried to put a budget on my desk with tax hikes in it, you know what I did... I walked away. And then they came back a couple of weeks later, and we passed a balanced budget deal that didn't have a single tax rise.

But it hasn't just worked there; I've managed to take on one of the most powerful unions in the country, and got them to finally pay their fair share into their pension schemes, I've got rid of special perks for failing teachers, I've capped property tax at 2%, and I've worked with business leaders to create 60,000 private sector jobs. All of this has been possible because I've stood up, and said 'these are my values, this is my policy, let's get something done.'

Frankly I know that's what the American people want. They don't want politicians who offer them easy answers, or who give long winded speeches; they want someone who can get on with the job. I'm sure some of you may have noticed, but I'm a big guy (laughs). I'm not going to let Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid push me around. I'll say to them, and to Speaker Boehner, look, we need to sort out this ridiculous out of control spending, and frankly I'm willing to lock them in a room until we get a proper agreement to get rid of our budget deficit, and to begin paying off our national debt.

At the end of the day I know that Americans want a President who can get results, and I've done that in New Jersey. I know that my style may seem a bit well, New Jersey-esque to some folks, but at this time in our nations history, more than ever, we need someone who isn't afraid of telling some harsh truths, and someone who can actually get results. Believe me, I'm the guy to do that.

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To Christie: Do you believe a Northeastern Governor can win the nomination of a largely conservative, Southern party, especially after the failure of Mitt Romney to do so in 2008?

Well, unlike Governor Romney, I've actually won in both Iowa, and New Hampshire. But I'm not going to start laying into Mitt, because frankly your question is ridiculous.  The media are obsessed with constantly dividing up the republican party. It's a load of baloney.

I know that republican voters, whether they're in Iowa, South Carolina or Nevada want the same thing; they want someone who can defeat Hillary Clinton, and someone who has the strength and leadership to carry out real conservative change, like repealing Obamacare, or helping to create quality jobs to get folks back to work.

I also want to address this myth that folks in the media, and some on this stage keep putting forward that I'm not conservative, because it's beyond stupid. I'm a principled conservative, and I've fought for real conservative reforms in one of the most democratic states in the nation. I've defunded planned parenthood, I refused to renominate an out of control liberal justice and I've taken on the most powerful unions in the country. If I can do this all in New Jersey, with a Democrat controlled legislature, just think what I can do if we have a republican House and Senate.

But look, of course I think we can win, and I tell you what- I reckon I'm the only candidate on this stage who is going to win in every corner of America, because republican voters don't care what part of the country you come from, they care about the results that you can get. So if you want someone with a proven track record, who can defeat Hillary Clinton and who can then achieve real conservative reforms, I'm the guy for you.
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To All: What is your position on online gambling?

Look I support online gambling in New Jersey, but it should be left to the states to decide. I know that the Governors, the state Attorney Generals and the legislatures are the best people to decide what action should be taken on online gambling, rather than just letting the federal government make a blanket decision.

In New Jersey we allowed New Jersey, and it's been a success. It's created over 3,000 jobs, and generated over $600 million dollars; that's what success looks like, and I don't see why the federal government should be able to stop that.

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To All: Do you have a plan to end the war in Afghanistan?

Well the first way to help end the war in Afghanistan is to kill Osama Bin Laden. It's simple, and as President it would be my number 1 priority. We went into Afghanistan because the Taliban were giving safe haven to Bin Laden, and other members of Al-Qaeda. So to fix the problem in Afghanistan we've got to take out the Radical Islamic terrorists who are still hiding in the country.

We've also got to keep support for the democratically elected Government in Afghanistan. This means providing training, and support for their security services, and ensure that our allies in NATO and the UN continue to provide as much support as possible to Afghanistan. I know that some folks are beginning to tire of our mission in Afghanistan, but the presence of US Troops is keeping Afghanistan more stable than it would be without the, and frankly as President I'm always going to put the safety of the American people first, even if it's unpopular.

Some people running for President, like Rep. Jones take a different view. He voted to defund our military operations in Afghanistan, because he thinks we can just cut our losses and run away. That's wrong, and I'll tell you why. It would mean that the current Government in Afghanistan could collapse, and then we'd have the Taliban back in power. It's much easier to hunt down and kill these terrorists seeking to harm Americans if we have a strong, friendly ally in Kabul, rather than a government dominated by the Taliban.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 10, 2018, 07:36:37 PM
Fletcher under fire:

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Initially a near quixotic bid for the Presidency following a landslide defeat in Kentucky back in 2007, Governor Ernie Fletcher (R-KY) rapidly displayed campaigning skill and benefited both from the departure of several social conservative candidates as well as avoiding some of the more harsh blows delivered on the primary. That has changed. It was the National Review who published a story today (days before the South Carolina Primary) in which a prominent source (thought to come from a rival campaign) claimed that after the endorsement of Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) and his campaigning for the Governor, Fletcher was prepared to choose Upton as his Vice-Presidential pick should he win the nomination.

The news has sparked a negative reaction from many prominent conservatives, who saw with dismay and anger the controversial comments of Upton's presidential campaign and his "excessive" turn towards the left, often leaving him at odds with the Republican Party on most key issues. Many, like former Speaker Newt Gingrich, have asked Fletcher to immediate rule out the story or else face a drop in support among Republican conservatives, who strongly feel a moderate running mate (and one as moderate as Upton) would make the ticket "untrustworthy on the issues." It remains to be seen what damage will Fletcher take in the upcoming South Carolina Primary due to this controversy.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 10, 2018, 08:38:13 PM

Campaign Highlights
Part Two

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FOX News Exclusive: Interview w/ Ernie Fletcher
Jan. 14th
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Reporter: Thank you, Governor Fletcher, for joining this exclusive. Here's my first question: Next week, the South Carolina Primary will be held. It is considered pivotal for your campaign to win this primary, do you think you have the momentum to pull it off?

Ernie Fletcher: I do think that we're gonna pull it off, and we're going to try to win by the biggest margin possible. We have a very good coalition of campaign staff and volunteers campaigning out here in South Carolina. We've been consistently doing better in every single poll released out of South Carolina. I really have my tremendous team to thank. We're going to win in South Carolina.

Reporter: Alright, next question: You've been focusing on policy a lot. Can you explain a bit of your policy on a smaller issue, for example, Veteran's Affairs?

Ernie Fletcher: As a Veteran myself, this is a very close issue to me. When I'm President, I'm going to make sure legislation gets through for VA Accountability because our Veterans deserve the best doctors. The Department of Veteran's Affairs has long lacked the Accountability legislation it needs. I'm going to pass real VA Accountability Reform.

Reporter: Let's go to a bigger issue: Can you please explain your tax reform plan in detail?

Ernie Fletcher: Let me describe it simply: Simpler brackets, everyone gets more in their paycheck, no deduction removals. I'll simplify the income tax into brackets of 9.5%, 12%, 24%, 35%. I'll cut the corporate tax to 20%. I'll eliminate the individual mandate and the death tax. We need leaders that will actually stand for that, and not cheap talking points and political games. Actual recovery.

Reporter: Alright, thank you, Governor Fletcher, for joining this exclusive.


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Matt Blunt: Ernie Fletcher "shows the real credentials to unite this country"
Jan. 14th
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At a Campaign Rally for Ernie Fletcher,
Former Governor Matt Blunt made the following comments:

"Tonight, our nation is growing a division. It's time for a leader who can actually lead. Someone who knows how to govern. Folks, if you want someone who won't play games of politics, Ernie Fletcher is your guy (crowd cheers). Our country needs a uniter for every single American citizen, regardless if they're a Democrat or a Republican or an Independent.(crowd cheers)

Back in 2003, you had someone who united the people of Kentucky. Folks, when November came along, he won a quarter of Democrat voters. If that doesn't show the real credentials to unite this country, I don't know what does(crowd cheers). Look, I'm not giving this speech today to be another big surrogate behind another campaign. That's not what this is about. I'm giving this speech because I, too, am disappointed with the leadership of this country (crowd cheers). You can't watch TV for 5 minutes without an attack ad showing up. Fletcher is not about that."

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Fletcher interviewed on local radio stations
Jan. 15th
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Q: My family can't afford Obamacare even after the subsidies, and the individual mandate is hurting us for it. What will you do about Obamacare?

A: Being a doctor myself, I understand how truly broken the healthcare system is. Without the individual mandate, Healthcare prices rise which makes the way it works completely broken. If people are suffering from this mandate, is it truly worth it? It's not, and I'll repeal it. Year one. Mark my words.

Q: As a teacher, my pay has been stagnant over the years. As a registered Republican, I'm tempted to vote Democrat this year because they might help my situation. What will you do about teacher pay?

A: Well, I think it's important to note that during my term as Kentucky Governor, I was able to increase teacher pay 10%. You don't need a Democrat to tell you he's going to increase teacher pay. I've got governing experience in helping our local schools.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 10, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
Carolla campaigns in Florida on immigration

Amercia is a fantastic country and I think it’s a honor to be a citizen of such a wonderful great country as ours. However I don’t apporve Of illegally getting across the border and start taking jobs away from hard working legal Amercians.

I think we need to do something about our borders. They are too weak and there weaknesses have been exposed many times.  Like I said earlier I am very welcoming to people in the United States.
However that doesn’t mean you can just skim across here day 1 across open borders. No it’s not like that!

We have a broken immigration system and everybody knows it.  We need to tough on border security we need to hold the people who let these people slide in accountable.

As President I will fix our borders and reform our border security and make sure more people get into our country from Mexico legally.
We need to reform and make our citizen and immigration programs better.  We need to reform and have a better team of ICE and border patrol officers  across the borders.

Folks this may sound unpopular but it isn’t!  Americans will mainly agree with me on this type of thing.

We need tough and bold immigration reform!!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 11, 2018, 06:45:53 PM
Carolla calls out media bias in Clemson South Carolina rally

So the media is once again showing their biases once again!! It’s almost like they are trying to influence this election. They want the election to be Christie vs Clinton so much!! They are now running obviously hit pieces against not just me but anyone who is anti establishment and has is tough enough to take them on!



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 12, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
What Carolla did part 2

Carolla campaigned in South Carolina and Florida on healthcare and infrastructure reform. 

In Miami Carolla also talked about reforming the DMV.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 12, 2018, 11:36:51 AM

Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.
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Campaign Schedule

January 11th: Governor Christie flew from New Hampshire to South Carolina to continue his campaign. He spend the morning holding a series of TV, and Media interviews with National and Local media in South Carolina. The highlight was an in depth interview with Bill O'Reilly, where Christie admitted the New Hampshire result 'was a couple less points than we expected'' but said it was 'still historic in an open race to win in both Iowa, and New Hampshire', which Christie put down to the fact that 'the voters in New Hampshire and Iowa, knew that I was on there side''. Christie also said that he 'looked forward'' to proving the polls wrong in South Carolina, and was 'confident that we're gonna do a lot better than the folks in the media think.'' Later in the day the Governor held a round-table with evangelical leaders in Mount Pleasant, and later held a Town Hall where he reaffirmed his support for the 'pro-life cause' and pointed to his record 'De-funding planned parenthood and blocking liberal justices from renomination' in New Jersey.

January 12th: Governor Christie spend the morning holding a ''commander-in-chief'' forum discussion at the U.S.S Yorktown where he said it 'beyond vital that republican voters pick someone who can keep America safe'. Citing his record ''as a U.S Attorney who put terrorist behind bars'' and as the ''only guy running who's actually got experience in National Security Matters''. In a town hall held later in the day Christie reaffirmed his commitment to the PATRIOT ACT, and attacked the ''zealots on the fringe of the party who are more concerned with scoring petty points than keeping America safe.'' Christie reaffirmed that he ''would never apologize for supporting the PATRIOT Act'' and promised that he'd support an increase in both defense and intelligence funding, and vowed to make ''Killing Osama Bin Laden'' his number one priority.

January 13th:
Governor Christie traveled to Columbia where held a special rally with Governor  Haley Barbour, where he blasted Joe Biden for wanting to impeach Clarence Thomas. Calling the Vice-President's remarks 'beyond stupid', Christie said it showed 'the Democrats have given up even pretending to even care about the rule of law''. Christie later told the crowd that 'if you want to keep Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, and kick Joe Biden out of office, you've got to vote for me.'' Later in the afternoon the Governor met with farmers in the Tobacco industry and pledged to 'end the burden of excessive regulations and taxation'' which are 'crippling the agriculture industry across America''. Governor Christie was later joined by Iowa Governor Terry Branstad who praised Christie 'as a dedicated champion for rural Americans'' and someone 'who knows leadership is about more than giving a speech on the floor of congress, it's about lifting folks up, and allowing everyone to reach their god-given potential.'' 

January 14th:
Governor Christie traveled to Miami-Dade in Florida to hold a ''Cubans for Christie'' event and rally with Representative Ilena Ros-Lehtinen. Christie started the day giving radio interviews to local media, and then visited a Cuban diner, and held a roundtable discussion with Cuban business leaders, before giving a speech to the Chamber of Commerce where he promised to 'kick Washington into Shape' by 'cutting  spending, lowering taxes and fixing entitlements'' before promising to 'get a real bi-partisan deal to eliminate our deficit'' and telling the crowd 'I've done it in New Jersey, let me do it for all Americans''. Christie later visited the eternal flame memorial for Cuban Freedom Fighters, and Bay of Pigs Veterans, and hailed them as 'Heroes, who represented values that make me proud to be an American; bravery, valor and liberty''. In the evening Christie held a rally with Rep Ros-Lehtinen who said that that the 'cuban community here in Miami have an ally, a friend and a champion in Chris Christie'' and urged them ''to make their voices heard in the primary, and support Governor Christie.''

January 15th: Governor Christie returned to South Carolina overnight, and in the morning toured the new Boeing Plant with Governor Nikki Haley in North Charleston. Meeting with workers Governor Christie touted the his tax plan which would 'end the Federal Government treating working folks like a cow on market day'' and reaffirmed his pledge to 'lower individual rates of tax'' to let workers have more control of their own pay-packet. Governor Christie later gave a speech where he praised 'South Carolina's long status as a right-to-work state'' which he said 'has attracted jobs and investment''. Christie pointed to his record 'fighting the union fat-cats in New Jersey'' and promised that as President he would force Unions to ''stop blocking the road to real reform'' and accused them  of 'not giving a hoot about the National Economy.'' Governor Christie later visited a charter school to meet with parents, and to hold a Educational Town Hall promoting 'real school choice' and argued that charter schools 'can lift millions of poor Americans out of poverty, including African-Americans, who have been let down by failing public schools, that Democrats refuse to fix.''


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 12, 2018, 04:37:38 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.
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Campaign Schedule Part 2

January 16th:
Governor Christie started the day with a series of radio interviews with evangelical stations, and gave a print interview to the Weekly Standard, where he argued that the party needed someone ''who can win, whether that's a win in Iowa, a win in New Hampshire, a win in November, or a win when Congress gets to work repealing Obamcare''. He also dismissed claims that he was a ''some sort of secret liberal backed by the establishment'' as 'deluded fantasies', who ignored 'the fact I've fought for every conservative cause in New Jersey, and I've managed to win in one of the most Democratic states in the nation''. Christie also announced that he would be endorsed by Paul Ryan, a much respected figure on the Conservative wing of the Republican Party, and that Ryan ''will be playing a very large role in my campaign, and in helping to develop serious policies to eliminate our budget deficit, and to reform our inflated entitlement spending.'' Christie spend the remainder of the day holding a serious of 'Telling it like it is'' Town Halls across the state, including a tele-Town Hall on Veteran issues where he pledged to 'end the backlog of veterans trying to get disability aid'' and would 'allow veterans to get healthcare anytime, anywhere''.

January 17th: In a campaign appearance in Mount Pleasant with Rep. Paul Ryan, Governor Christie blasted Ernie Fletcher over reports that he was going to pick Fred Upton as his Vice-President. Deriding the Governor for ''not even denying the reports'', Christie said it ''showed that conservatives, and republicans simply cannot trust Governor Fletcher,'' and told the crowd ''trust me, I'm going to pick a running mate who supports the Republican Party, who supports repealing Obamacare and who stands up for Americans over the useless union bosses holding our country back''. Christie later held a town hall with Ryan to further touting his plan to 'clear up the economic mess that the Democratic party, and Hillary Clinton have placed us in''. Later in the evening Christie traveled to Charleston to hold a rally with Governor Nikki Haley who attacked Ernie Fletcher for 'siding with the the union bosses, the Democratic Party and the crooked establishment, when he refused to condemn his friend Fred Upton'' and said it ''was clear that South Carolinas simply cannot trust him'' and that 'Chris is the only guy running who has your back''.

January 18th: Governor Christie started the day by meeting workers at a automobile factory in York County where he again promised to ''fight to for real-high quality manufacturing jobs'' which can 'high-start our economy''. Christie then delivered a high profile speech, attended by local and National Press where he unveiled his plan for ''12 Million Jobs'', delivered through 'genuine market led reforms, such as national right-to-work, repeal of the Individual and Employee mandate, true energy independence, and real investment in technical colleges to teach proper skills''. After the speech Christie traveled to Brown Mackie College in Greenville, South Carolina to meet students, and hold a Q&A about education, job training and hi-tech jobs. In the afternoon, and evening Governor Christie held a series of Town Halls in Mount Pleasant where he touted his plan to 'protect religious liberty from the ravenous assault by elements of the Democratic Party'' and argued that ''Bobby and John Kennedy would look in horror at how the Democrats have attacked religious liberty', and said that 'there's lots of old school democrats outraged about this, I've reached out to these folks in New Jersey.'' Christie again reaffirmed his commitment to pick a running mate 'committed to constitutional conservatism'' and to ''appoint Justices like Justice Alito.''

January 19th:
In the morning Governor Christie meet with campaign staff at the HQ in Charleston, and went out canvassing with volunteers, before attending a special phone-bank session that was reaching out to Evangelical voters. Later Governor Christie gave another major prime-time speech in  Summerville called '130' where Christie outlined his record at tackling the 'corrupt establishment rot' in New Jersey, and pointed to his record at 'putting over 130 of the most corrupt elected officials and appointed officials behind bars, for using the government as a slush fund''. Christie praised the Tea Party's rise 'for making people realize across the country that we need to get our government back''. The Governor also derided claims that he was an 'establishment stooge'' and pointed to his record ''putting corrupt republican politicians in prison'', and said 'he'd stood up to republicans when they didn't push hard enough against the unions, when they didn't stand up for school choice, when they didn't fund our pension system, I told the Republican party went it was wrong''.

January 20th: In the last full day of campaigning Governor Christie started with an early morning visit to a Veteran Hall where he held a town-hall with Veteran voters and promised to 'fully fund, and boost our Armed Forces'' whilst also ''cleaning house in the Veterans Department'' to get 'proper care and services for those who've carried out the ultimate service.'' Later Governor Christie held a rally with campaign supporters in Mount Pleasant where he said 'it's time to pick someone who can fight, and win for America''. Christie also pointed to his economic plan ''as the only comprehensive plan to create jobs, lower taxes, and lift this country up'' and said 'I shook up the establishment in New Jersey, let me shake up the establishment in D.C. Let's send a message to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid... let's tell them we want our country back.'' Later in the evening after his final campaign rally with Governor Haley and Paul Ryan, Christie gave a speech to campaign workers and told them 'to shock the media establishment, and show them just how much South Carolina wants a fighter in the White House.''

January 21th: Governor Christie spend the day with Mary-Pat Christie, and campaign staff delivering leaflets, and knocking on doors in Charleston, before driving to Mount Pleasant to take part in campaign events with Evangelical pastors, and leaders who were involved with the campaign. Governor Christie then returned with Mary-Pat to watch the Primary results come in.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 12, 2018, 04:39:37 PM
Hillary campaigns in Nevada, continuing to use many of the same talking points she has so far in the campaign. She especially stresses her comprehensive immigration reform plan and her schemes for higher education. All Western surrogates campaign in Nevada with her, while Eastern surrogates focus on South Carolina and fundraising. Hillary does not participate in the debate, citing scheduling conflict.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 12, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
Surrogate Schedule

Mary-Pat Christie: Campaigned with Chris Christie in South Carolina, and attended a series of Town Halls to appeal to evangelical voters where she outlined her Husband's faith, and his commitment  ''to fighting for American families''. Will also appear in a series of local, and National TV Interviews with her Husband to discuss their marriage, Chris' role as Father and her commitment 'to helping American families open, and run small businesses' as First Lady.

Jon Huntsman Jnr: Will hold a series of roundtable, and outreach sessions with the Mormom Community in Nevada, and will visit Utah with his Father to promote the campaign, and reach out to supporters of Governor Romney. Also will write a series of Newspaper articles, and Media Interviews  before the South Carolina to argue Christie ''is the only candidate who has stood up against those republicans who don't want American leadership in the World. He's stood up against the Isolationists.''   

Nikki Haley: Appeared at a set of campaign rallies with Governor Christie, promoted his economic vision for the state of South Carolina, and carried out media interviews to argue ''Governor Christie has the economic vision that can lift up South Carolina'' and touted his history ''taking on the establishment, and standing up for Liberty.''

Paul Ryan: Appeared in South Carolina to support Governor Christie's tax plan, and to argue Christie ''has stood up against the establishment in both parties who have refused to cut spending.'' Later appeared in Conservative media outlooks like RedState, National Review and Fox News to promote Governor Christie to conservative, and Tea-Party aligned voters, arguing 'Chris is our champion to beat Hillary Clinton.''

Susanna Martinez: Recorded a series of spanish and English radio ads, and videos to air in Florida and Nevada where she promoted Governor Christie's support for law and order policies, his Catholic faith and his ability to bring Americans together. Campaigned in Miami, and Las Vegas to promote the Christie Campaign.

Ilena Ros-Lehtinen: Appointed Chairwoman of the Florida Campaign (with two other vice-chairs to be announced next week) and held a 'Cubans for Christie' Rally and Event. Appeared in Cuban, Spanish and English Media in the Miami-Dade region, and promoted Christie's 'support for the Cuban community' and his commitment to the ''true American values of Liberty, valor and patriotism.''

Haley Barbour: Hold a series of outreach events in Northern Florida, before travelling to South Carolina to meet with Evangelical supporters, and to promote Christie to retiree, veterans and other traditional republican voters. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 12, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
6th Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher

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Debate Answers & Responses


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To Fletcher: Do you support repealing and replacing Obamacare, or just straight repealing Obamacare?

I've worked in the healthcare industry for years. Let me tell you, I'm not much a fan of the Affordable Care Act. The main problem you have here with it is how it imposes every citizen to buy insurance. It's ridiculous. Penalizing people for either not being able to afford the insurance or spending it elsewhere is counter productive. It's not fixing a healthcare system (audience applauses) The individual mandate is a system that only burdens people. We're not fixing a healthcare system by forcing people to buy it.

And because employers must offer insurance to employees, people are getting less hours to work, and they're getting less in their paycheck. They're making full-time employees become part-time to afford paying rising health insurance prices for their employees.

It's spending too much, taxing too much, and certainly not reducing the deficit a lot. You have to have some kind of cut to the deficit if you want to reverse this massive debt. It's on the path to spending over one trillion between 2013 - 2019. It's set to increase taxes by more than 600 billion between 2013 - 2019. I'll straight repeal the Affordable Care Act before it gets the chance to do that.

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To Fletcher: What is your position on renewable energy?

We need to make energy one way or another. Americans understand that we cannot continue to import 60% of our oil from foreign countries, many of which are hostile to the US, if we aim to be exceptional in the world. I'll support a renewable energy plan to create more of OUR energy here, and create less dependence on countries in the Middle East. I'm tired of letting them decide our gas prices every time our families go out for a vacation in the Spring and Summer (audience applauses).

My vision is that we create a goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025 without throwing a single coal miner or oil driller out of work. Every type of energy will be needed when we fight for energy independence. We don't have to import more than 60% of our oil from the Middle East to keep gas prices low. We can create all types of energy here, and our gas prices can actually be low.

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To All: What is your position on online gambling?

Trust me, the, uh, gambling industry doesn't like me very much (laughing). They ask me to support them in return for campaign funds, I say no. You have families all across the US spending ridiculous amounts of money on gambling. We continue to top the lists in gambling spending worldwide. It's taking away more money than it makes. Last year, Americans spent over 30 billion more on gambling than what we got back from it. That is not benefit. That is losing money. We've been losing more and more to gambling addiction ever since this rapid expansion. Something must be done to bring awareness to this addiction.

There are many great workers in the gambling industry, and I'm not trying to throw them out of work. Let's halt this rapid expansion of gambling. It can sometimes ruin families in these scenarios, and we're on the path to spend a trillion gambling in the next decade. It's a story that doesn't have a happy ending, and it leaves families devastated. It's expansion certainly hasn't helped the economic crisis we've been in. It's a bad deal for our families, our people, and our nation. My plan is to stop these problems that come with gambling addiction.

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To All: Do you have a plan to end the war in Afghanistan?

Just get the mission done. Trust me, as a Veteran, the handling of this war is awful. My foreign policy priority will be to kill Osama bin Laden. We've been in Afghanistan for more than a decade. It's time to finish this mission and stop spending reckless amounts of money overseas. I don't believe anyone can call themselves a deficit hawk if they want to keep the reckless amount of spending. We must kill Osama bin Laden.

We get the mission done, we leave, it's over, and nothing like 9/11 ever happens in our country ever again (audience applauses). We've lost thousands of troops overseas. We've spent trillions overseas. This war against terrorism could've been handled better, and we all know it.   

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Governor Christie: Look I support online gambling in New Jersey, but it should be left to the states to decide. I know that the Governors, the state Attorney Generals and the legislatures are the best people to decide what action should be taken on online gambling, rather than just letting the federal government make a blanket decision.

In New Jersey we allowed New Jersey, and it's been a success. It's created over 3,000 jobs, and generated over $600 million dollars; that's what success looks like, and I don't see why the federal government should be able to stop that.

Rebuttal— Governor Christie, the rate of gambling addiction is one of the highest in the nation in New Jersey. In areas with more gambling addiction, bankruptcies increase, robberies increase, and crime does too. There has to be some kind of action against this addiction. You have to be the big man sometimes and stand up against this. Families will spend more than a trillion gambling in the next decade, and it consistently outweighs the revenue. I want people to have more in their paycheck, and no addiction should be taking money out of their paycheck. People lose thousands of dollars daily gambling. Something must be done.

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Governor Christie: Well, unlike Governor Romney, I've actually won in both Iowa, and New Hampshire. But I'm not going to start laying into Mitt, because frankly your question is ridiculous.  The media are obsessed with constantly dividing up the republican party. It's a load of baloney.

I know that republican voters, whether they're in Iowa, South Carolina or Nevada want the same thing; they want someone who can defeat Hillary Clinton, and someone who has the strength and leadership to carry out real conservative change, like repealing Obamacare, or helping to create quality jobs to get folks back to work.

I also want to address this myth that folks in the media, and some on this stage keep putting forward that I'm not conservative, because it's beyond stupid. I'm a principled conservative, and I've fought for real conservative reforms in one of the most democratic states in the nation. I've defunded planned parenthood, I refused to renominate an out of control liberal justice and I've taken on the most powerful unions in the country. If I can do this all in New Jersey, with a Democrat controlled legislature, just think what I can do if we have a republican House and Senate.

But look, of course I think we can win, and I tell you what- I reckon I'm the only candidate on this stage who is going to win in every corner of America, because republican voters don't care what part of the country you come from, they care about the results that you can get. So if you want someone with a proven track record, who can defeat Hillary Clinton and who can then achieve real conservative reforms, I'm the guy for you.

Rebuttal— Governor Christie, they may think of you as less conservative because you cut deductions in New Jersey raising state taxes. It is ridiculous to believe that there is no way someone can believe you are more moderate. You had property tax relief programs slashed. You had other deduction programs slashed. It's imperative that we call those policies for what they are. Tax hikes.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 12, 2018, 07:40:08 PM
Joe Biden in Carson City, Nevada

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You know, it was very nice debating against myself yesterday...but seriously, what does Senator Clinton have to hide? She skipped a debate, which last time I checked was not how you win a Presidential nomination. Did she learn any lessons at all from her run in 2008? Either she's incompetent, she won't answer serious questions about herself and her past, or she has something she's hiding that she doesn't want to get out. Whatever it is, it's not a quality we need in our nominee.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 09:53:12 AM
Debate

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To All: What is your position on online gambling?

Rebuttal— Governor Christie, the rate of gambling addiction is one of the highest in the nation in New Jersey. In areas with more gambling addiction, bankruptcies increase, robberies increase, and crime does too. There has to be some kind of action against this addiction. You have to be the big man sometimes and stand up against this. Families will spend more than a trillion gambling in the next decade, and it consistently outweighs the revenue. I want people to have more in their paycheck, and no addiction should be taking money out of their paycheck. People lose thousands of dollars daily gambling. Something must be done.

Now this is one issue where we disagree. I believe in both state's rights, and in the free market. I don't think we should allow the federal government to excessively dictate what states can, and can't do. Of course we know there's problems with gambling addiction; but a white paper released by the IDEA said there's absolutely no link between the introduction of online gambling, and an increased rate of addiction.

The illegal gambling industry is worth over $15 billion, and frankly I think it's better to allow individual state's to regulate it, and then use the revenue gained to help work on anti-addiction programs, rather than just outright banning which would still leave folks with an addiction to illegal gambling.

It's a matter of both pragmatism, and principles; it's brought tax revenue and jobs into New Jersey, it's help boost Atlantic City, and it's shown the importance of both state's rights, and the power of free markets. I'm happy to support that.


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Rebuttal— Governor Christie, they may think of you as less conservative because you cut deductions in New Jersey raising state taxes. It is ridiculous to believe that there is no way someone can believe you are more moderate. You had property tax relief programs slashed. You had other deduction programs slashed. It's imperative that we call those policies for what they are. Tax hikes.

Well look Ernie, I know it's been a while since you held office (chuckles), so I'll tell you what's happening in New Jersey.

In the 8 years before I was Governor there were 115 increases in taxes and fees. But under my spell as Governor I've not raised income, sales or corporation tax.

I've had the Democrats, who control both the Senate and the Assembly, come to my desk with a millionaire's tax, and with an increase in corporation tax, and I vetoed it, and told them that I wasn't going to sign a budget with increased tax rates. And I didn't. I was also the first Governor to cap property tax rates at 2%, rather than the 4% the Democrats won't.

I'm from a state dominated by Democrats; if I had republican majorities I would have been able to pass proper expansive tax cuts across the board, whilst also cutting our excessive spending. But I had to work with the Democrats, and I had to make sure that we balanced the Budget, and that meant cutting back some of tax reliefs. That's the thing Ernie; sometimes when you have to balance a budget you have to make tough calls.

Rebuttal to Paul


The reason we have this problem with terrorists today is because of our hawkish and interventionist foreign policy, Al Qaeda was only able to become what it is today because we armed them and trained them when they were still the mujahideen in the 80's, they started attacking us because they had the guns we gave to them and because we have troops in their holy land, something that to them shouldn't happen, they started attacking us because we intervened in the Lebanese Civil War in the 70's, they started attacking and hating us because we bombed Muslim countries like Libya in the 80's!

Sending troops is not only bad to end the war beacause it generates more hatred, but it also is bad to the soldiers, they could be here in America working, but instead they are in other countries, fighting for something that sometimes didn't even originally involve us, I have served during Vietnam, I have been endorsed by other veterans such as Jesse Ventura, and people like us have seen what exactly is war and how horrible it is, and no man deserves to pass trough it.

By keeping troops in Afghanistan and other countries and intervening in their wars and problems that don't threaten us, we are only generating hate against our country, we are only generating more and more future problems with terrorism, so to stop this, we need to end the war in Afghanistan and our military presence in other countries by bringing back our sons and daughters, closing the military bases and opening ourselves to cooperation with other countries.

I'm sorry Representative Paul but someone has got to call you out on this these ridiculous, dangerous views. I don't understand why no-one else in this race is prepared to stand up and defend American values.

The problems in Afghanistan do threaten us. Where you asleep when Osama Bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda leadership were hiding in the mountains of Afghanistan? If we pulled out all our troops tomorrow we'd have seen a massive vacuum in Afghanistan, and we'd seen Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden and the other murdering fanatics being protected by the Taliban.

You mention Libya, but Ronald Reagan bombed Libya because they'd already supported terrorist attacks in Germany. You're entire ideology says that if someone attacks the United States it's somehow our own fault. Unlike you Representative Paul, I'm prepared to stand up, and fight back against those who harm America.





Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 13, 2018, 10:51:26 AM
What Carolla did part 3

Carolla campaigned on trade and space exploration in Florida with legendary astronaut Buzz Aldrin throughout the Central Florida area.

Carolla in Soutn Carolina campaigned on reforming NAFTA debunking rumors of him wanting to raise tariffs and campaigned on his business tax plan and how it would help South Carolla.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 11:03:16 AM
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Fletcher rules out Upton as his VP, blasts back at the National Review
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Immediately after the National Review's new Issue, Ernie responded to the claims in his soonest town hall:

"I don't know if you heard about the National Review's new issue.. (crowd claps). So, they claimed after Fred Upton endorsed me that I would pick him as my Vice Presidential Nominee (crowd boos). I didn't know I had to rule out Fred Upton, of all people, as my Vice President. Let me just rule him out right now (crowd claps). People can think for themselves and say that I have been very consistent on my conservative ideology. I think the National Review should be focusing on actual issues, like economic recovery, tax relief, or energy independence. I tell you what, we need to show people that campaigns can be about the issues and not political games of gossip.

Their issue was trying to argue that I had shaped more moderate on the issues. Folks, when I was Governor of Kentucky, I still passed bold conservative reform with a Democrat- controlled State Senate. I've been consistent on these issues since I was first elected to the House. We will get these things passed for every single American and that includes Upton supporters. (crowd claps)

What bothers me more is that their issue claims the Upton had campaigned for me. That never happened. They have no backing behind any of these claims. While they focus on those bizarre claims, I'll be working on policy. I'm tired of this game of political 'gotcha. Let's go to the ballots next week and show them campaigns CAN be about the issues, the vision. They don't have to be about games of politics (crowd claps)."





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Newt Gingrich: "I'm disappointed in the National Review"
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After the new issue from the National Review, Newt Gingrich appeared on FOX News to give his opinion on the issue:

"I'm ultimately disappointed in the National Review. I think they usually talk a lot more about conservative policy rather than political gossip, but they shifted on that in this new issue. I'm disappointed that they tried attacking a fellow Republican. It seems that they were trying to divide the Republican Party in this issue than unite it. I'd say Ernie is probably the most consistent on conservative ideology in this race right now. I don't see how anyone could say he's inconsistent on the issues, especially not the National Review. It's more concerning that they made these claims without any backing. They claimed Fred Upton had campaigned for him, but that just didn't happen. The numbers just don't add up for Ernie to pick Upton as his possible VP.

Given, you can say I'm a little biased because I do support Fletcher for President, but I think a normal Ernie supporter, or just a Republican in general, could conclude this just doesn't add up. The claims have little backing behind it besides an endorsement from Fred Upton. That doesn't tell us he's going to pick him as his Vice President. You could make the same argument that Ernie is planning to pick any person who has endorsed him as his VP, but that doesn't bring any major evidence to the table that he would. I think it's unlikely the most consistent conservative in the race would pick a moderate as his Vice President, and I'm disappointed in the National Review for saying he would without any real backing on the claims."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 13, 2018, 02:10:54 PM
Carolla campaign ad airing in all 50 states
NAFTA
Carolla VoiceOver:
Do we really have free trade?
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Despite the free in NAFTA and CAFTA they are still not free trade. 
Free trade,” by definition, is freedom from government in bartering and exchanging. Governments step aside and allow the peoples of their respective countries to exchange goods and services or associate with the peoples of other countries without any (or very little) government interference.

So this means NAFTA is not a free trade agreement and it’s rather a corporate takeover of North Amercia
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And with these deals like NAFTA and CAFTA these deals they away good paying jobs in Amercia and shipping them overseas killing any competition.

And I am the only candidate in the Republican race to tackle this issue.

However If I before President I will Reform our trade deals and make sure Amercia is able to complete and win when it comes to completing in the markets of the world.

Not I am not  going to tarrif goods and countries rather I will cut our corporate tax rate which will also help us in competiting in the world. 

Amercia will boom again when we are back on top of the trade world.
Trust me Adam Carolla and trust a different kind of Republican


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 03:17:46 PM
Surrogate Schedule

Glenna Fletcher: Just like other Fletcher campaigns, Glenna will join Ernie on the campaign trail in several press conferences, Town Halls, campaign rallies, etc. Glenna even delivers the Post- New Hampshire Results Speech. She outreaches to local South Carolina mothers and they talk about pro-family policy and talks about "Politicians cares more about political games today and not about issues that affect families."

Mike Huckabee: Huckabee joins campaign staff in outreaching to local South Carolina Churches and Pastors. He talks about how "Ernie truly knows the problems in Churches today" and "He can pass religious freedom legislation." He also appears on national media interviews to promote Ernie Fletcher's campaign.

Marco Rubio: Rubio spent time campaigning with campaign staff in Miami- Dade County campaigning door to door and phone calling voters. He outreaches to Cuban families, stating "Ernie will help every American family, including Cuban families" and explained his tax policy as "expanding family deductions while cutting taxes." He promoted Governor Ernie Fletcher's campaign on local and national media interviews, including local Cuban news stations. He led most fundraising efforts in Florida.

Jim DeMint: Senator DeMint spent some time attending national interviews explaining his endorsement for Governor Fletcher and promoting his campaign, saying "He's the only person who I know, without doubt, he will stand up for South Carolina families" and "I know he can bring us back a strong economy for our families." He also gave a pep talk to Campaign Staff to give them campaigning motivation, joined Fletcher for a fundraiser, and later, held fundraisers himself in Columbia and led fundraising efforts in South Carolina.

Newt Gingrich: Gingrich gave several national interviews to promote Ernie's campaigning touting his Veteran's Affair plan, Energy Independence plan, and Tax Plan. He joined Fletcher in a campaign rally in Lexington, SC and talked about how he "has the competence to deliver a strong energy independence plan." He appeared on the campaign trail in Central South Carolina with campaign staff to talk about Ernie's plans to help South Carolina with voters. He also appeared on several local conservative radio stations to promote Ernie Fletcher's campaign.

Matt Blunt: Matt Blunt appeared in a rally in Spartanburg to talk about how Ernie "shows the real credentials to unite this country." After showing up in the rally, he gives a pep talk to South Carolina campaign staff and then delivers another pep talk to Missouri campaign staff helping campaign motivation. He holds several fundraisers for the campaign and leads the fundraising efforts in Missouri.

Sonny Perdue: Perdue holds Town Halls and Fundraisers in Northern Florida, leading the fundraising efforts in Northern Florida. He meets with local campaign staff to talk about campaign strategies in Northern Florida.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 03:47:43 PM
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Huntsman on CNN: ''Governor Christie is the only candidate standing for up for American Leadership.''

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Well it's clear from these debates, and from the campaign that Governor Christie is the only candidate who's prepared to stand up for American Leadership. In these dangerous, and troubling times it's vital that we have someone who's not just ready to be commander in chief, but also someone who understands that we need strong, and confident American leadership on the world stage.

I know there's some folks running like Ron Paul and Walter Jones who think that America should withdraw from the world, that we should pull out our troops from their vital support role in emerging Democracies and that we should abandon the fight against radical terrorism. This view dangerous, and damaging.

Governor Christie has been the only candidate who's stood up and challenged these views. I know that Governor Fletcher voted in favour of supporting a strong foreign policy when he was in the House, but frankly he's been too timid to stand up and challenge these fringe views in our party. I think that's a mistake, and it's clear that if you support our troops, if you support the fight against radical Islamic terrorism, and if you want an America that leads you've got to vote for Chris Christie.

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Paul Ryan on Hannity: ''Governor Christie has fought for real Conservative economic reforms'', credits him 'with bringing fiscal sanity to New Jersey'' and says 'he'll whip Washington D.C into shape.''

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Look Sean, I've always said that both the Democrats, and some members of the Republican party have not been tough enough on making sure that we reform our inflated entitlement system, and to make sure that we pay down our National Debt, and eliminate our budget deficit. I'm the chairman of the House Budget Committee, so I've seen these battles up close.

I also know that Governor Christie has the experience, the vision and the understanding to whip Washington D.C into shape, and to end the runaway spending and spiraling debt we've seen under President Obama. It's time for a fresh start, and we only have to look at Governor Christie's record in New Jersey.... he  fixed their $120 Billion pension system, he capped property tax rises, he passed a balance budget without increasing tax rates and he's taken on the Democratic establishment. He's got a record I can trust.

Hannity Question: What about all this nonsense from the Fletcher Campaign and Fred Upton? Have you heard anything about it?

Well what I do know is that Upton endorsed Fletcher before New Hampshire, and expected that it would help his chances to become Vice-President. Upton took some ridiculous stances- he supported Obamacare, and he supported repealing Taft-Harley. That's a position to the left of the Democratic party. I also knew that Rep.Upton even traveled to Wisconsin to campaign against our own Republican Governor Walker, that's just disgusting to see a Republican campaigning against someone in his own party, simply because Scott Walker had the courage to take on the unions. I hope that Governor Fletcher will publicly condemn Representative Upton, and reject his endorsement. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 04:05:25 PM
Responses to Governor Christie

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Well look Ernie, I know it's been a while since you held office (chuckles), so I'll tell you what's happening in New Jersey.

In the 8 years before I was Governor there were 115 increases in taxes and fees. But under my spell as Governor I've not raised income, sales or corporation tax.

I've had the Democrats, who control both the Senate and the Assembly, come to my desk with a millionaire's tax, and with an increase in corporation tax, and I vetoed it, and told them that I wasn't going to sign a budget with increased tax rates. And I didn't. I was also the first Governor to cap property tax rates at 2%, rather than the 4% the Democrats won't.

I'm from a state dominated by Democrats; if I had republican majorities I would have been able to pass proper expansive tax cuts across the board, whilst also cutting our excessive spending. But I had to work with the Democrats, and I had to make sure that we balanced the Budget, and that meant cutting back some of tax reliefs. That's the thing Ernie; sometimes when you have to balance a budget you have to make tough calls.

Governor, I might've been in office 4 years ago, but I will never exploit, for political purposes, your 2 small years governing in New Jersey. (audience laughter) Governor, when you cut deductions, those were tax increases. You DID raise taxes on people's paycheck. Someone has to stand up for getting less taxes on people's paychecks.

Governor, before my term, there hadn't been a Republican governor since 1971. It voted for Bill Clinton twice. You had a Democrat- controlled State Senate and a Democrat Attorney General when I was Governor. We didn't just not raise taxes. We passed legislation for state tax relief and raised deductions. We made tough calls too, Governor Christie. We made those tax cuts with a billion dollar deficit, and we still removed that deficit and balanced the budget. We created a billion dollar surplus. Governor, it's time we had a President that has real experience with delivering these types of things. (audience clapping)

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Now this is one issue where we disagree. I believe in both state's rights, and in the free market. I don't think we should allow the federal government to excessively dictate what states can, and can't do. Of course we know there's problems with gambling addiction; but a white paper released by the IDEA said there's absolutely no link between the introduction of online gambling, and an increased rate of addiction.

The illegal gambling industry is worth over $15 billion, and frankly I think it's better to allow individual state's to regulate it, and then use the revenue gained to help work on anti-addiction programs, rather than just outright banning which would still leave folks with an addiction to illegal gambling.

It's a matter of both pragmatism, and principles; it's brought tax revenue and jobs into New Jersey, it's help boost Atlantic City, and it's shown the importance of both state's rights, and the power of free markets. I'm happy to support that.

Governor, I'm not telling you to support banning gambling. I'm telling you that we have to do something to stop us from this rapid expansion of gambling that will destroy thousands of people's lives. People lose thousands daily gambling, and I won't stop fighting for every single person that has lost thousands gambling. (audience clapping)

If we're using all the revenue on solving gambling, then what purpose does gambling serve? It solves nothing, and it's proof it solves nothing because New Jersey still ranks near the top in gambling addiction. Every year, people spend more money gambling than the revenue that comes with it. That spending is growing every year. It's a matter of leaving people in the dust because you can't stand up to gambling. I'll stand up for every person that has been left behind because the current administration has let gambling expand far more than it needs to. There must be something done about it. (audience applauses)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 04:52:51 PM
Chris Christie.
Fighting For You.

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Christie at U.S.S Yorktown in South Carolina.''I'll fight for Reagan's vision of a strong, proud America, leading on the World Stage', blasts 'Zealots' in the GOP who are ignoring 'national security needs', and  says 'I'm ready to be Commander-in-Chief.''

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I'm never going to apologize for my vision of a strong America, that is proud to stand up on the world stage and to boldly promote liberty, democracy and freedom. We sent the shot that was heard around the World when we stood up to the British Empire, we stormed the beaches of Normandy in 1944, under Ronald Reagan we stood against the Evil Empire, and we helped Freedom spread across Eastern Europe. I'm never going to apologize for supporting that.(crowd claps)

There are certain fringe elements in our party, who have a zealot like view of our foreign policy.
 They don't look at the facts, they don't listen to folks in the FBI, and they don't care about American values like Liberty. They just oppose every action that the US takes on the world stage. That's their choice. That's what's great about American Democracy. But I know that the voters in South Carolina want someone who will stand up for Reagans vision of a strong, proud America, that is leading on the world stage, not one of President Obama, who wants to lead from behind.

We also need someone who is prepared to be commander-in-chief from Day one. We can't do what we did with President Obama and pick someone who needs on the job training. I've served as a US Attorney, I've used the PATRIOT Act to put terrorists behind bars and I lead the fight against the Fort Dix terrorists. I'm ready to be commander-in-chief.

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Christie on Trade at Town Hall: ''I'm not here to offer easy answers.''

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Q: Look Governor I'm worried about American jobs, and I'm worried about these trade deals we keep signing. We keep getting told by politicians that it brings economic growth, but where the hell are the jobs?

Look, you're anger is understandable. For too long, politicians in both parties haven't done enough to help create proper high quality jobs, especially in manufacturing industries. The Democrats, like Hillary Clinton want to spend billions, and want to give the majority of that money to the union backed firms. That's not fair, and that's not what America needs.

Here's my approach to trade though. I'm not here to offer easy answers. I'm not here to tell you that I'm going to get rid of every trade deal we have because I'd be lying if I said that. It's been 20 years since we signed NAFTA, and you know I think it's time to work with Canada and Mexico to update that agreement, and to make it much fairer for American Businesses.

I also want to see smart bilateral deals with our allies that support free-enterprise, that's why I support our free trade deal with South Korea. I also think we should look at signing deals with countries we know our committed to free enterprise like New Zealand.

The two main things we have to focus on is bringing the best companies in the world to the US,
 we've seen that's possible here in South Carolina with the Boeing Plant, something that's also possible because of your state's great right to work laws. We can encourage this further by cutting corporate tax rates.

But we also need to promote high skilled jobs. I'll remove the tax loopholes that encourage companies to ship jobs overseas, I'll support vocational colleges that train our next generation of workers and I'll work with the private sector to create 12 million jobs by reducing our tax burden, cutting excessive, and ridiculous regulations and get the big, lumbering government the hell out of the way of our energy sector.

I'm not here to offer easy answers South Carolina. But I'm here to offer real solutions, to build an American economy we can all be proud of.
Governor Christie Speech on corruption- '130'.

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The number one problem we had with our politics in New Jersey was corruption. I know the jokes about New Jersey, and trust me they were not only damaging our reputation for businesses, but they were corroding any faith that people had in our politicians.

Why would you expect someone earning $30k a year to go out and vote, when there elected representatives were giving over $100,000 to their mistresses, or where steering no-show jobs to their jobs. And you can guess what happen; the corruption continues, the corruption expands,and the corruption collapses any form of good Government.

It's easy to talk about corruption though. It's hard as hell to fix it. Cory Booker ran for the Mayor of Newark against Sharpe James, one the most corrupt and crooked politicians in all of America,
 and Sharpe James used every tool, every dollar and every friendship he'd gained to win re-election. He didn't win because he was popular, or because he was a good Mayor- he won because he'd fixed the game.

I think you should judge politicians by their actions, and as US Attorney my second major task, after counter-terrorism was tackling political corruption. I made a hell of a lot of enemies, I won't repeat what a Republican Assembly member said about me, but it rhymed with 'fat duck' (crowd laughs) More seriously I had people threaten my family, and my own safety.  But you can't show weakness, and you can't back down to these corrupt, crooked, corrosive politicians who see public service as an excuse to get rich.

As a US Attorney I prosecuted, and put over 130 corrupt politicians behind bars. They were both republicans and Democrats, because corruption crosses party lines. That's why I find it so puzzling when folks say that I'm doing the establishment bidding- I put half the political establishment in New Jersey away in prison for their corrupt, and illegal practices.

That's why as President you can count on me to sort out the ethical mess in Washington. I don't care if I have to annoy republicans, or Democrats- I'm going to clean up the mess that we've been left in. I'll make sure that we end pork-barrel spending projects, I'll make sure we don't return to the practice of earmarks, and just like in New Jersey, I'll make members of Congress are transparent about their outside income.

Corruption is the most corrosive issue for American Politics. I've fought against it in New Jersey, and I'll fight against it as President. 


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 05:33:44 PM
Campaign Advert 1: 130. (Airs in South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Missouri, Maine, Colorado and Michigan)

Narrator: Are you sick of corrupt and crooked Politicians?

Politicians who use taxpayers like you, as a piggybank to fund their extravagant lifestyles. Politicians who give jobs and favours to their close friends and families. Politicians who think that they can cover up, and lie about their crimes.

In New Jersey one man stood up against this disgusting corruption.... US Attorney Chris Christie.

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Chris Christie put 130 corrupt, and crooked politicians and appointed officials behind bars, and he didn't even lose a single case!

Sharpe James, who dodged paying taxes, and gave multiple houses to his girlfriend, was prosecuted and put behind bars by Chris Christie.

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Wayne Bryant, who gave multiple no-show jobs to his family, and who traded public funding for kickbacks, he was prosecuted and put behind bars by Chris Christie.

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Chris Christie even stood up to corrupt republicans like James W Treffinger, who had committed wire fraud and extortion.

Not only did Chris Christie fight corruption as US Attorney, but as President he's vowed to...

(cuts to Christie at a town hall) ''sort out the ethical mess in Washington. I don't care if I have to annoy republicans, or Democrats- I'm going to clean up the mess that we've been left in. I'll make sure that we end pork-barrel spending projects, I'll make sure we don't return to the practice of earmarks, and just like in New Jersey, I'll make members of Congress are transparent about their outside income.

Corruption is the most corrosive issue for American Politics. I've fought against it in New Jersey, and I'll fight against it as President.''

Chris Christie is the only candidate who has a serious record of fighting corrupt politicians, and he's the only candidate who can sort out the mess left in Washington D.C.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Campaign Ad 2: Establishment. (Airs in same as Ad 1)

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(Chris Christie talking straight to the Camera)

In this campaign some folks have attacked me as being a pawn for the establishment. These fake attacks are absolutely ridiculous, and I'll tell you why.

As a US Attorney I stood up to corrupt politicians in the New Jersey establishment, from both parties. I put over 130 of them behind bars. I didn't ask if they were republicans or Democrats. I simply did my job, and prosecuted them.

I was the first Governor of New Jersey to fix, and fund our $120 Billion underfunded pension system. No previous Governor, Democrat or Republican had done that.

The establishment wisdom in New Jersey told me not to fight the powerful Establishment unions, but I did, and I reformed our education system to remove tenure parks for Teachers and ensure all kids in New Jersey get a quality education.

I only decided to run for President when grassroots activists from Iowa flew to New Jersey to ask me to run. Citizens drafted President Eisenhower in 1952 and citizens drafted an actor called Ronnie Reagan to run for Governor in California. Our country is at it's best when citizens decide our political future, not party bosses.

In this campaign I've put the people of America first. I've told the establishment in my party where it's been wrong; whether that's on helping non-violent youthful drug addicts, or on ending Washington D.C's out of control spending.

I was moved by the outpouring of support from voters in both Iowa, and New Hampshire who voted for me to be the Republican nominee. This campaign is about fighting for ordinary hard working Americans. This campaign is about fighting for you. I'd love if you could join me, and take the fight to the establishment.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 06:10:36 PM
Rebuttal to Christie
Paul: Christie, why do you think interventionism is an american value, our founding fathers advised non interventionism, were they against the american values? In Washington's farewell address he explicitly advised that our foreign policy should be non interventionist, if a hawkish, interventionist foreign policy is an american value, Washington wasn't defending this value.

American values are liberty, freedom and valor. It's not about interventionism, for the sake of intervening, it's about fighting back when radical Islamic terrorists attack us. It's shocking you still don't understand this.

I seem to recall that the founding fathers were more than ready to protect, and defend themselves against the French in the 1790s, and the British in 1815. But to be honest Rep. Paul I'm much more concerned about defending Americans, and protecting us from another attack from Al-Qaeda, who were in hiding in Afghanistan before we went in. I know when you're on the floor in Congress you can make these long winding speeches, but when you're President you've to be prepared to defend America. I'm prepared to do that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
Campaign Ad 3: 12 Million (Airing in South Carolina)

The Obama-Clinton Economy simply isn't working. Unemployment remains too high, too much money is taken away from working people in tax hikes, and this is then wasted on useless big-government spending. But we can end the Obama-Clinton economic stagnation.

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However Governor Chris Christie has a plan to help create 12 million jobs, and to help bring growth, jobs, and investment into South Carolina.

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Chris Christie's plan would repeal the job-killing mandates of Obamacare, and would cut taxes to lift the tax burden off businesses, allowing them to create new jobs, rather than handing over more money to the federal government.

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His plan would gut the Estate Tax, and get rid of the excessive regulations, red tape and bureaucracy which is stopping job creation.

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He'd make America truly Energy independent by building the Keystone pipeline, expanding off-shore Drilling and supporting Fracking, Ethanol and other new American fuel sources.

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And finally, Governor Christie would stand up for American jobs by cutting corporation tax to 25%, and would end the scandal of tax loopholes that encourage US companies to shift profits, and jobs offshore.

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(Cuts to Christie speaking) America has struggled in the past, we've been in economic turmoil but by the strength of hard work, with the support of our families and with a focus on the great pioneering spirit that built this country, we can lift this Economy up.

My plan to help create 12 million jobs, through tax cuts, regulation repeals and real investment into high-quality jobs will be the first step on the road to recovery. I know that the American people, when they're united behind strong, principled leaders can rise up, as they've always done. So please join me, and let's lift this broken Obama-Clinton Economy back to life.

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 13, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
Ad 4 Stand up for America (South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Missouri, Maine,
 Michigan, Colorado, Arizona)

(Narrator shows a disabled veteran talking to the Camera)

''I was in an armored column in Kandahar in 2009. We'd been sent to flush out a Taliban terror cell that had been targeting a woman's refuge with mortar attacks. But before we could get there an IED went off to the right side of our Humvee....

All I remember of the blast is a flash. When I woke up I was being flown back to the States. I lost all of my left leg, and half of my right. Every day when I get up I'm reminded of the damage, but I'm also reminded of the sacrifice that I, and thousands of other troops made to America.

(Camera cuts to the veteran lifting himself up off the seat)

It takes me a bit longer now to stand up.

But serving in the US Army showed me that we need a President who is prepared to stand up for American troops, for American values and for American Leadership around the world. We're the greatest country in the History of the World. My Grand-dad stood up against the Nazis when he stormed the beeches of Normandy in 1944, and my Dad served in the Air-Force in the Gulf War when we stood up against Saddam Hussein.

I know that American leadership matters. I'm supporting Chris Christie for President because he's the only candidate who's standing up for America. As a US Attorney he dedicated his time in office to combating terrorism, and put arms smugglers, and radical Islamic terrorist behind bars.

As President he's got plans to fully fund our military, to aggressively target Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, and to make sure that the terrorists I was fighting in Afghanistan don't get there hands on Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Governor Christie has also stood up for Veterans in New Jersey by introducing dedicated mental health staff, and a 24 Hotline for Veteran Support. As President he'll let Veterans get healthcare anywhere in America, and he'll put an experienced professional in charge of the VA. I know and trust Governor Christie will stand up for Americans.

I know the cost of serving my country, and I know that Governor Christie has the experience, the skills and the courage to protect America. He's the only guy who's standing up to fight for America. Please join me, in standing up, and supporting Chris Chistie to be our next commander in Chief.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 08:24:01 PM
Campaign Highlights
Part Three

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Local Interview w/ Ernie Fletcher
Jan. 17th
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Interviewer: "We've heard a lot about that issue from the National Review saying Fred Upton would be your running mate. Some South Carolinians are concerned. Can you explain this?"

Ernie Fletcher: "Well, I think some South Carolinians can put two and two together and ask why a consistent conservative would ever have Upton as my running mate? The answer is I'm not picking him as my running mate. The issue has little evidence to back him as my running mate. I think Upton just thought my ideas against political games would be good for the nation."

Interviewer: "Alright, and another question, in the recent debate, you took a strong stance against Gambling. Some praise it and some are confused, particularly people who work in the Gambling industry. Can you elaborate on this stance?"

Ernie Fletcher: "Well, let's look, you usually have hundreds of millions spent weekly gambling.
People lose thousands gambling. That spending nearly always outweighs the revenue come from it. Gambling addiction has been on the rise since 2007, and we're looking at people maybe spending one trillion in casinos in the next decade. That's very risky, especially seeing areas with more gambling addiction typically have more bankruptcies, crime, and other terrible things.

I'm not looking to demonize people in the Gambling industry. I'm not trying to take them out of work, but I'm planning to make moderate action to bring awareness to the addiction problem and stop the rapid expansion of people spending more gambling."

Interviewer: "Thank you, Governor Fletcher."

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Marco Rubio: "I'm very concerned with Christie's tax hikes in New Jersey"
Jan. 18th
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Senator Marco Rubio showed up on CNN to show support for Governor Ernie Fletcher:

"I think the person I trust the most to get tax relief passed is Governor Fletcher. Look, he managed to get the passed in a state that had been dominated by Democrats for decades. If you look at the other candidates and you look at the facts, Fletcher has been consistent on this for years. You have other candidates like Governor Christie who slashed deductions in his state. His excuse is that New Jersey had democrats, but the other Governor in the race, Governor Fletcher, had to deal with a Democrat Attorney General and Democrat State Senate. He still had tax relief passed.

I'm very concerned with Christie's tax hikes in New Jersey. Mostly because you have another Governor in the race who dealt with scenarios similar to his and he still got taxes cut. I trust the person who has experience in passing this kind of reform. He will be the best nominee to face Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden, and unite this country for the better. He is the best option for Florida, and as a public servant, I'm very proud to support him."

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CNN Exclusive: Fletcher Interview
Jan. 20th
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Interviewer: "Thank you for joining us, Governor, for this exclusive interview"

Ernie Fletcher: "I'm happy to be here. Go ahead with the first question."

Interviewer: "Alright, Governor Fletcher, the South Carolina Primary is tomorrow, and after the National Review issue, do you think you can win, and if so, how?"

Ernie Fletcher: "Oh, definitely, we've got a great team out here in South Carolina. We've been getting the campaign message out here across all of South Carolina. I think the people in South Carolina know they need a leader that has real credentials in passing reform, even with the Democrat- controlled Senate. People are getting tired of the games of politics. The momentum we've shown over the past couple months shows that.

Our momentum is not going to stop because of this issue from the National Review. People can put two and two together and say that they're making a decision on who to support based on some untrue political gossip. They'll make their decision on policy, experience and vision. We've shown we're going to focus on that policy.

Interviewer: "And next question, the last debate, you said Christie had hiked taxes in New Jersey, can you explain?"

Ernie Fletcher: "Well, I think that's very self- evident. He cut deductions and tax relief programs. That put more taxes on people in New Jersey. It's not very defensible. You have him talking all about tax relief, but when he got down to governing, that just didn't happen. He defends himself by saying New Jersey has all these democrats in power.

When I was Governor of Kentucky, we had democrats in Power. We hadn't had a Republican governor in 3 decades. Democrats controlled the State Senate, and we had a Democratic Attorney General. I passed tax relief. I cut state taxes and expanded deductions and still balanced the budget. Christie should've been able to cut taxes. When I make a promise to cut taxes, I WILL cut taxes, mark my words."

Interviewer: "Alright, thanks for joining this exclusive, Governor Fletcher"

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Fletcher at campaign rally: "We're going to show them tomorrow that campaigns don't have to be about political games."
Jan. 20th
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At Fletcher's final campaign rally until the South Carolina Primary, Ernie made the following speech:

"Our campaign isn't about all these big surrogates going behind campaigns and vouching on their behalf. Our campaign is about you. (crowd cheers) People have tried very hard to bring this campaign down, but we're going to show them something. (crowd cheers) We're going to show them that campaigns don't have to be about political games. We have the momentum to win tomorrow. (crowd cheers) We're going to bring actual change for our families, our farmers, our oil drillers, our coal miners, and every other American that shares our values.(crowd cheers)

We're going to do it without the big faces behind our campaign. Our campaign is not about big surrogates behind our campaign. Our campaign is about you (crowd cheers). Are we going to win? (crowd cheers) I think that means you want us to win, is that right? (crowd cheers)"



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 13, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
Carolla on social media

Chris Christie has hinted at tax hikes and has done a bad job of trying to disprove that.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 09:18:46 PM
"Selfless"
Ernie Fletcher's 7th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in Missouri, South Carolina, Florida, Minnesota, Colorado, Maine, and Michigan

Narrated by Former Lt. Gen. Terry Gabreski

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"I served for our country on the frontlines, in the air force. I'm very proud of my service, being one of the first women to become a Lieutenant General."





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"In the Air Force, we didn't work for medals. We got the job done."





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"They did it because they cared more about duty than glory. They didn't hesitate. They acted selflessly."





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"One of those soldiers is Ernie Fletcher, he was stationed in Alaska serving as a F-4E Aircraft Commander."

"He was awarded the Outstanding Unit Award because Ernie acted selflessly. Putting his country's interests above his own."


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"If there was anyone I would want to lead the country, it would be Ernie because he's got the guts to lead this nation. He represents selflessness."




I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 09:19:57 PM
"A Leader"
Ernie Fletcher's 4th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Michigan

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher from the 2nd Presidential Debate

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Fletcher: I explain my bid like this:



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Fletcher: These past events were made specifically to play a game of political gotcha and dirty politics.



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Fletcher: A game the majority of Americans disapprove of and for good reason.




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Fletcher: I share the disappointment and dissatisfaction of the American people of the political rhetoric of our nation's leaders and our current administration. The fact is the political machine of our nation's leaders is a failed system that has served no Americans except itself. As President,



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Fletcher: I will not play this game of political gotcha and it's about time we end it in Washington.




I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 09:51:37 PM
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Ernie's South Carolina GOTV Strategy

With Ernie looking in very good condition to win in South Carolina, the campaign is looking to outdo expectations and win 35% - 40% of the overall vote. The campaign is looking to attract disappointed republicans, social conservatives, Ron Paul supporters, and strong Christians to their campaign. Many of Fletcher's surrogates, including South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, will be campaigning with campaign staff to get out the vote. The campaign is also looking to keep Republicans who are maybe mad with Upton's endorsement by claiming the Fletcher continued to be the most conservative in the race and would stick to those values in the case he gets to choose a VP Nominee. The campaign is also looking to attract Christie supporters who were shocked by the tax hikes in his time as Governor pointed out by Fletcher at the debate and several other interviews. Overall, the campaign will be working very hard to get Fletcher to exceed expectations and win with 35%+ of the vote.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 09:52:53 PM
"The Candidate You Can Trust"
Ernie Fletcher's 5th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, Missouri, and Michigan

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher

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(pardon the extremely pixelated image)

"What I believed in the 90s"





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"is that our country leader's spend too much time working to divide rather than to serve"





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"And that we must focus on getting the job done rather than this useless rhetoric, and in Congress, I spent every day to get the job done."





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"Today, I couldn't be more outspoken that this country needs some real leadership that sticks to their values. I'm tired of the talking, let's win the future."





I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 13, 2018, 09:54:20 PM
"He Served"
Ernie Fletcher's 3rd Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, Missouri, and Michigan

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Veteran #1: "We arrived in Vietnam in December, December 10th"
Veteran #2: "We were fighting in what was called Viet Cong. Some just called it North Vietnam."
Veteran #3: "I was there for more than a year, and by then, we had at least 75 wounded"




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Veteran #1: "They broke through our lines. It was hell. We had about 52 wounded and 21 killed after the first year, maybe more. I was one of the 12 to come back home."




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Veteran #2: "We had over 100 wounded at least and 62 dead. Vietnam was hell. Stuff like that, you just don't forget."




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Veteran #3: "48 years ago, I had my helicopter shot down. I know several of the people I knew had died in combat. I can't believe I made it alive. Life after the war was tough. We didn't get thanked for our service. Never."




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Veteran #2: "Corporal Ernie thanked me for my service. It was a... rewarding feeling. Especially coming from another veteran."




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Veteran #1: "Takes a Veteran to understand a Veteran,"




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Veteran #1: "And he is a Veteran."




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Veteran #3: "He has a Veteran's best interest in mind. He knows when he makes foreign policy decisions that it affects lives. Ernie Fletcher is a Veteran's best friend. After all, he did serve."




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Veteran #1: "And he said.. 'Thank you for your service.' tearing up"






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I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 13, 2018, 10:54:39 PM
Carolla final update

Carolla campaigned in South Carolina one last time in Clemson and relaxed in his hotel room watching the results.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 07:28:20 PM
Debate Winners:

GOP:

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Congressman Jones being unable to join the debate, just four candidates made it to the debate stage in South Carolina, all giving what were considered to be spirited performances. The debate was, however, more defined by the constant back and forth between Paul, Christie and Fletcher, candidates who seemed determined to block attacks and inflict harm on their contenders. Isolation from the main fight meant Carolla was the least prominent candidate in the debate, but at the same time sustained no harm. Paul and Christie were involved in a bitter struggle over foreign policy, and Fletcher casted sustained doubts on Christie's records that forced the governor to play defence.

As a result, and despite very strong responses to the main questions, it was commonly agreed Christie emerged from the debate more wounded than his opponents, with Paul also sustaining a fair share of damage over foreign policy views which are unpopular with other candidates. This left Governor Ernie Fletcher as the last man standing, critically aided by the lack of wounding criticism of his views or record by most candidates and giving him a key boost before the primary.

DEM:

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With Senator Clinton not attending the debate (which drew a fair share of criticism towards her), the Democratic debate essentially turned into free airtime for Vice-President Biden, a decisive, unprecedent commodity which could have been exploited to the full and given the Vice-President decisive momentum. It was therefore surprising to see the Vice-President make several gaffes or go all the way for the progressive vote, drawing much criticism over his remarks on the Civil War, Speaker Pelosi and particularly Justice Clarence Thomas. Being the sole candidate on stage Vice President Biden managed to secure his hold of the left of the party and continue inroads in some important demographics, but at the cost of scaring away many moderate voters to the Clinton camp, and potentially hurting the party's national polling. It remains to be sene which effect is stronger.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Primary Analysis:

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"What do we make of the past days in the Democratic primary?"

Pundit 1: Disappointing seems like the best word. Biden blew an excellent opportunity.

Pundit 2: Yes and no. It may hurt him in GE polling, but he has to win the primary first. His style of campaign over the past month or so could help him in South Carolina, and he absolutely needs that state to move forward.

Pundit 3: I think there's an honest question as to whether it may be too late. Biden is virtually not contesting Nevada, and with Clinton having settled there for the past days polling suggest her victory will be larger than expected. And that's three victories in a row.

Pundit 1: It's certainly Clinton's race to lose, this nomination. Biden has been closing the gap with substantial success, but I get the feeling it will take something important to truly change the game.

"And the Republicans?"

Pundit 2: Quite a fight they're having now. It's turning into a fiery contest.

Pundit 1: I think Christie's going to take the most damage out of this. Don't get me wrong, his campaign efforts are superb. But when you're forced to defend your record then your rivals are doing something right.

Pundit 3: I don't think it's doubtful that Fletcher will win this primary, but the margin will matter. Lest we forget, he has avoided significant attacks on his record, so his low recognition has allowed him to brand himself successfully.

Pundit 2: Indeed, I think he'll win as well. The margin of victory is the thing to watch.

Pundit 1: Can't believe I'm saying this, but don't count Ron Paul out of this one. His campaign efforts were not as good as Fletcher or Christie, but he did well in the debate and could give a surprise.

Pundit 3: And Christie?

Pundit 2: That's the real question. He has noteworthy advantages, particularly having much better quality and effect in advertising. It has to be seen whether he surpasses attacks on his record to do well here.

"I'm told we can finally make a projection for Nevada and South Carolina, let's go to the results

Primary Results:

"We can formally project Senator Hillary Clinton will defeat Vice-President Joe Biden at the Nevada Caucus, surpassing the margin projected in the polls and doing very well at delegate hunting. With the third consecutive victory for Clinton, all eyes will be on South Carolina and Florida now:

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Democratic Nevada Caucus:

Hillary Clinton: 58.87% (21)
Joe Biden: 41.13% (15)

Democratic Primary:

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Delegates:

Hillary Clinton: 63
Joe Biden: 57

Superdelegates:
(Not included in the delegate count above)

Hillary Clinton: 18
Joe Biden: 9

"And in the Republican primary, Governor Ernie Fletcher does indeed win a major victory by surpassing 37% of the vote. Governor Christie holds second place far away with 21%, and as Walter Jones suffers a tough blow to his aspirations Ron Paul rebounds to 13% following an effective campaign. This is certainly a major boost for the former Kentucky Governor, but it remains to be seen if he can sustain this momentum.

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Republican South Carolina Primary:

Ernie Fletcher: 37.25% (25)
Chris Christie: 21.71% (0)
Walter Jones: 19.62% (0)
Ron Paul: 13.98% (0)
Adam Carolla: 7.44% (0)


Republican Primary:

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Delegates:

Ernie Fletcher: 31
Chris Christie: 24
Ron Paul: 5
Walter Jones: 3
Adam Carolla: 2


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
Turn Eight: Gunfight at the Sunshine State:
January 22nd to January 31st, 2012

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In the News!

Fletcher triumphs in South Carolina
Can the anti-Christie candidate consolidate the conservative forces?

Decisive battles in South Carolina, Florida
Biden in need for a victory in SC, GOP challengers look towards Florida

Obama delivers 2012 State of the Union Address
President defends his record as his successor remains unclear

Right to Work arrives in Indiana
Indiana House passes controversial measure curbing unions

1.- Turn: This turn takes us to the end of January, and involves the Florida Primary (both parties) and the Democratic South Carolina primary. While the Democratic Primaries remain proportional (excepting super-delegates), Florida and its 50 delegates are winner take all. Not a prize to be ignored!

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 47%
Generic Democrat: 41%
Wesley Clark: 8%
Undecided: 4%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Chris Christie: 29%
Ernie Fletcher: 27%
Ron Paul: 16%
Walter Jones: 13%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Undecided: 3%

Republicans: Fletchermentum?

Despite constantly well-planned efforts to secure the nomination, Governor Christie continues to face trouble to "seal the deal" as his rivals constantly attack his conservative credentials. With Walter Jones taking a substantial hit before the South Carolina primary, Governor Ernie Fletcher suddenly became the so called "conservative alternative" to Christie and shot up in the polls in the aftermath of South Carolina, giving him a credible shot at the nomination as Ron Paul and Adam Carolla make limited gains.

And yet, a crucial challenge lays ahead in the Florida Primary, a massive contest with much larger numbers of voters than past limited primaries. A victory in the Sunshine State not only would give the winner 50 crucial delegates, it provides a decisive chance for Christie and Fletcher to inflict serious harm to the loser.  It is also noteworthy for being the state in which Adam Carolla has focused the most, and should he upset Fletcher and Christie in this key battleground the race may become wide open.

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 43%
Undecided: 3%

Democrats: Two battlegrounds

A somewhat low key week after New Hampshire drama, Vice-President Joe Biden failed to fully exploit the advantages of a debate for himself, while at the same time making some gains among progressives and African-American voters. This was countered by Clinton being virtually uncontested in Nevada, delivering a third victory for the Senator and putting the Biden campaign in a decisive moment. All eyes are on Florida and South Carolina now, states that may determine whether Senator Clinton will sail to the nomination without further problems or whether Vice-President Biden can force a long contest, in which he has a significant chance at victory.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
GOP Average Polling:

FLORIDA:

Chris Christie: 39%
Ernie Fletcher: 24%
Adam Carolla: 20%
Ron Paul: 15%
Walter Jones: 8%
Undecided: 4%

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 34%
Adam Carolla: 19%
Ernie Fletcher: 18%
Chris Christie: 15%
Walter Jones: 10%
Undecided: 4%

MAINE:

Ron Paul: 29%
Chris Christie: 29%
Adam Carolla: 16%
Ernie Fletcher: 14%
Walter Jones: 7%
Undecided: 5%

MINNESOTA:

Ernie Fletcher: 30%
Ron Paul: 24%
Walter Jones: 19%
Chris Christie: 12%
Adam Carolla: 9%
Undecided: 6%

COLORADO:

Chris Christie: 29%
Ernie Fletcher: 27%
Ron Paul: 14%
Walter Jones: 13%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Undecided: 5%

MISSOURI:

Ernie Fletcher: 38%
Walter Jones: 19%
Chris Christie: 19%
Ron Paul: 11%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Undecided: 5%

ARIZONA:

Chris Christie: 28%
Ernie Fletcher: 27%
Walter Jones: 17%
Ron Paul: 13%
Adam Carolla: 10%
Undecided: 5%

MICHIGAN:

Ernie Fletcher: 37%
Chris Christie: 25%
Walter Jones: 15%
Ron Paul: 10%
Adam Carolla: 7%
Undecided: 6%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 08:36:05 PM
DEM Average Polling:

SOUTH CAROLINA:

Joe Biden: 52%
Hillary Clinton: 46%
Undecided: 2%

FLORIDA:

Hillary Clinton: 57%
Joe Biden: 39%
Undecided: 4%

MAINE:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 6%

ARIZONA:

Hillary Clinton: 55%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 4%

MICHIGAN:

Hillary Clinton: 49%
Joe Biden: 47%
Undecided: 4%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 15, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
Endorsements from Turn Seven:

Christie: Paul Ryan.
Fletcher: Matt Blunt, The Greenville News.
Corella: Buzz Aldrin, Adrian Wyllie.
Paul: Peter Thiel, Jim Jordan.

Biden: Al Gore, Sherrod Brown.

Clark: Lowell Weicker, Gary Hart.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 17, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
Schedule for Joe Biden

January 22, 2012

Meet Voters in Bonneau, South Carolina

Meet Voters in St. Stephen, South Carolina (with Jim Clyburn and John Lewis)

Meet Voters in Kingstree, South Carolina (With Jim Clyburn and John Lewis)

Meet Voters in Andrews, South Carolina (With Jim Clyburn and John Lewis)


January 23, 2012

Meet Voters in Georgetown, South Carolina (With Jim Clyburn)

Meet Voters in Loris, South Carolina

Speech at Brooks Stadium, Conway, South Carolina
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A couple of days ago, the Republicans had their primary here, and what happened confirmed what I've been saying from the moment I stepped into the race, that there are only two serious contenders for their nomination, in Governor Christie and Governor Fletcher. Both have enormous flaws. Governor Fletcher was forced to deny rumors that he was considering Congressman Upton as his running mate, and has several scandals from his days as Governor of Kentucky, some of which ended with him being indicted. Governor Christie on the other hand, seems to think that being the nation's most abrasive Governor is a "badge of honor", and he regularly insults the members of the New Jersey Legislature, and his constituents. That is not a man who should be trying to negotiate with Congress, or with foreign governments.

Meet Voters in Atlantic Beach, South Carolina (With Al Gore)

Speech in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
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It's nice to actually be in the lead somewhere for once... I don't recall being in the lead in any state in 1988, and I definitely wasn't anywhere near the lead at any point four years ago...but I need your help to keep it, and I'll need your help to carry the momentum from a win here on to Florida, Maine,
Arizona, Michigan and beyond.


Meet Voters in Mullins, South Carolina


January 24, 2012

Meet Voters in Marion, South Carolina

Speech at the Florence Civic Center, Florence, South Carolina
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I know we've lost three in a row, but I still feel like we've got the momentum on our side. Remember, Senator Clinton refused to debate us last time around, and if she keeps doing that we will storm back and win an easy nomination!

Meet Voters in Manning, South Carolina

Speech at Oliver C. Dawson Stadium, Orangeburg, South Carolina (With Jim Clyburn and John Lewis)
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I don't know what General Clark is doing in this race, other than trying to sabotage our party. If he wanted to run for President, he should have run as a Democrat, not as some "Holier than thou" Independent".

January 25, 2012

Meet Voters in Vance, South Carolina

Meet Voters in Santee, South Carolina

Meet Voters in Lighthouse Point, Florida (With Al Gore and Russ Feingold)

January 26, 2012

Meet Voters in Opa-locka, Florida (With Al Gore and Russ Feingold)

Meet Voters in Virginia Gardens, Florida (With Al Gore)

Meet Voters in Woodruff, South Carolina

January 27, 2012

Meet Voters in Cowpens, South Carolina

Cabinet Meeting, Washington D.C
January 28, 2012

GOTV/Phone Banking

Election Night Rally, Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia, South Carolina (With Jim Clyburn, John Lewis, Al Gore and Phil Bredesen)

January 29, 2012

Meet Voters in Temple Terrace, Florida

Meet Voters in Winter Park, Florida

Meet Voters in Mount Dora Florida

January 30, 2012

Meet Voters in Neptune Beach, Florida

Speech at Doak Campbell Stadium, Tallahassee, Florida
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Florida is a state that has been and will be one of the most vulnerable to climate change, surrounded on almost all sides by coastlines, and facing the battering of rising waters and more powerful hurricanes. But what do Republicans like Marco Rubio, Ernie Fletcher and Chris Christie want to do to combat this threat? Nothing, because they don't believe in the science, or they think that "God will take care of it'. Look, you can be as spiritual as you want, but God is giving, us, man the tools to save ourselves. We have to use them, rather than waiting for him to fix it for us. That's not how this works.

January 31, 2012

GOTV/Phone Bank

Election Night Rally at Tropicana Field, Tampa, Florida (with all surrogates, except for John Kerry and Al Gore)


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 17, 2018, 06:48:58 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
January 22 to January 31, 2012

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January 22: Senator Clinton holds a victory press conference in Reno, Nevada to celebrate her victory in the Nevada Caucus. She thanks her supporters and her "excellent field team" for buoying her to such a large victory "in such a critical state". When asked about her odds in South Carolina, she responds by saying "We're going to contest every state. Whether or not we win every state - that's up to the voters". She was also asked if she was worried that missing the most recent debate hurt her chances. Senator Clinton responded with a chuckle, saying "I wish I could give the Vice President an hour and a half on prime time every night. It seems every time he talks, he puts his foot in his mouth". She went on to reference his weak debate performance, which included bizarre comments on the Civil War, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

Following the press conference, Senator Clinton flies to Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

January 23: Senator Clinton's day begins by making the rounds on the local media circuit, sitting down for interviews with the Sun-Sentinal and the Miami Herald and also appearing on WINK, WTVJ, and WMBB. She then holds a rally at the Reverend Samuel Delevoe Memorial Park with Florida Senator Bill Nelson and California Senator Dianne Feinstein. At the rally Senator Clinton talks about the importance of unity, "not just within the Democratic Party, but across the nation". She calls Vice President "a loose cannon, who could throw off our most stable geo-political alliances with just one of his trademark gaffes". At the rally in Fort Launderdale, Senator Clinton makes the pledge to have gender parity in her Cabinet.

After the rally, Senator Clinton, Senator Nelson, and Senator Feinstein drive to the Food Pantry of Broward County and spend two hours volunteering there.

January 24: The Clinton Campaign drives to Miami during the predawn hours of the morning. The day begins with a round-table breakfast meeting on gun control with local political and social leaders. Senator Clinton committs herself to "the cause of making sure only responsible people with a peaceful desire for a gun can get a gun". After the breakfast, she travels to the Francis W. Taylor Wildlife Management Area and goes on a tour of a portion of the property with Florida Fish and Wildlife officers. She uses the opportunity to make a pitch for the conservation of the planet "because it's the only one we've got" and calls on companies to adopt "protective, pro-Earth policies".

Senator Clinton then flies to Fort Myers and holds a rally at jetBlue Park at Fenway South, Spring Training home of the Boston Red Sox. At the rally, she highlights her many decades in public service, "shattering glass ceilings all along the way". The main theme of the night is shattering "the final, largest, toughest glass ceiling left".

January 25: After sleeping in Fort Myers, Senator Clinton catches an early-morning flight to Spartanburg, South Carolina.

She begins her tour of South Carolina with a visit at the BMW plant in Greer. While meeting with workers there she notes with joy that the plant was negotiated and opened during her time as First Lady, hearkening back to the economic successes of the 1990s. She applauds the workers for being "one of the highest producing BMW plants" in the world. Senator Clinton then gives a speech near the plant to re-explain her plan to revitalize the American economy, emphasizing the points of increasing tax relief for the middle class, instituting the Summer Gas Tax Holiday, and expanding job re-training programs for people "otherwise left behind by the evolving economy".

In the afternoon she tapes an interview, to appear on NBC News, with Andrea Mitchell.

January 26: Senator Clinton drives to Aiken, South Carolina where she holds a town hall meeting with veterans. In the evening she and former President Clinton meet with local African American and religious leaders in Barnwell, South Carolina to discuss increasing employment among African Americans and ensuring that "the triumphs of electing our first African American President do not" get tossed by the wayside once President Obama is out of office.

January 27: Senator Clinton begins her day at Clemson University, where she meets with students before giving a GOTV speech in the Fike Recreation Center. She emphasises the importance of young people turning out to vote "to send the message that young people are paying attention to this election and that they want their voices heard". In the afternoon she goes door knocking in the local area with Clemson University College Democrats and other "Youth for Hillary" South Carolina volunteers.

The Clinton Campaign's senior staff hold an evening strategy session with Senator Clinton and Former President Clinton at their County Headquarters in Greenville.

January 28: GOTV begins early, with Senator Clinton and Former President Clinton visiting various diners and breakfast joints across Richland County from 5 AM to 8 AM. Later in the morning, the Clintons then rally volunteers at South Carolina State Headquarters in Columbia and go door knocking for a few hours in Columbia's Forest Acres and Arcadia Lakes neighbourhoods. Senator Clinton then drives to Sumter, South Carolina, where she meets with local Democratic Party activists and does a few hours worth of phonebanking with them.

Senator Clinton, Former President Clinton, and the Clinton Campaign senior staff wait for results to come in from the Residence Inn by Mariott in Florence. Once the results are clear, Senator Clinton addresses her supporters at the Election Night rally at the Smith University Center at Francis Marion University. Regardless of the outcome of the night, the message is positive and serves to transition the campaign to Florida.

January 29: The Clinton Campaign kicks into full-gear in Florida the morning after South Carolina. Senator Clinton flies from South Carolina to Miami in the early morning hours, and hits the ground running with a speech on the tarmac, where she signals "the beginning of a new phase of the campaign", where the delegate totals and vote margins "really begin to take hold". She stresses her early successes in Iowa, where she had been behind, in New Hampshire, and in Nevada, where she far exceeded expections. She calls Florida "the crown jewel of the primary" and promises to "make up for the DNC's mistreatment of Florida" in 2008.

After her tarmac speech, Senator Clinton meets with voters at Miami's Tropical Park before traveling downtown to meet with innovators in the bio-tech industry at Jackson Memorial Hospital. She also makes a point of meeting with patients at the hospital.

January 30: Early in the morning, Senator Clinton rallies volunteers at the Clinton Campaign's Florida Headquarters in the Wynwood Art District of Miami. After making an hour's worth of phonecalls, Senator Clinton flies to Daytona Beach. Upon arrival in Daytona Beach, she gives a speech at Mainland High School, in which she talks about the importance of recognizing the impact of climate change and taking steps to ensure that "large swaths of our country - much of Florida - still exist in fifty, one hundred, three hundred years". After the speech, Senator Clinton meets with teachers and administrators at the school before going door knocking in the area with Florida Senator Bill Nelson.

January 31: Overnight, Senator Clinton drives from Daytona Beach to Jacksonville. She and Former President Clinton travel to various polling places across the city to meet with early voters. She brings with her boxes of doughnuts and cases of coffee, handing them out to Clinton Campaign volunteers as a thank you for their hard work. The Clintons then travel to Klutho Park, where they meet with voters before Senator Clinton gives a GOTV speech cementing the "critical nature" of a "tremendous victory" in Florida.

After the speech in Klutho Park, Senator Clinton flies to Tallahassee. She begins by going door knocking in the historic Frenchtown neighbourhood and then visits, with Former President Clinton, polling places across the city as the polls begin to close. The Clinton Campaign sends out a mass-text-and-email reminding voters that if they're in line when the polls close, they are required to be allowed to vote. Senator Clinton, Former President Clinton, Senator Bill Nelson, and the Clinton Campaign senior staff wait for results to come in from the Staybridge Suites in Tallahassee. Once the results are clear, Senator Clinton addresses her supporters at the Election Night rally at Doak Campbell Stadium on the campus of Florida State University. She makes note in her speech, regardless of the outcome, that Vice President Biden had been there the night before but that she was there "for the night that counts".


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 17, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #4
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #5
In His Own Words, Airing in Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #6
Why Are You Running?, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #9
A Seat for Everyone at the Table, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #10
In Their Own Words, Airing Nationwide

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- Scene opens with Biden on the campaign trail in 2012-

NARRATOR: Joe Biden has run a dangerous campaign based on division, hatred, and fear mongering. Just listen to him:

BIDEN: "I give my word as a Biden, that we will prevail, and that even if we do not, neither will Senator Clinton."

BIDEN: "If it means promising Kim Jong-Un we'll protect his regime for the duration of a Biden Presidency to get him to disarm his nuclear weapons, it's a trade I'm willing to make."

BIDEN: "I was wrong to not filibuster Clarence Thomas. I was wrong to allow Clarence Thomas a hearing on the Judiciary Committee. He does not deserve a place on the highest court on the land."

BIDEN: "It's not my fault Republicans in Congress were more interested in denying President Obama any achievement whatsoever, in what was obviously blatant racism. Seriously, we haven't seen anything this bad since before the Civil War."

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- Scene shifts to Hillary on the campaign trail -

NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Clinton has been running a committed, policy-driven, optomistic campaign for the future of our country:

HILLARY: "The way to end this crisis ... is to get illegal guns off the streets and keep guns out of the hands of unstable and dangerous people."

HILLARY: "I believe that every child is entitled to a good education, regardless of their skin color or economic status. We need to start our public education at a younger age."

HILLARY: "I want to build a country where every person has the full opportunity to take part in the beautiful American dream."

HILLARY: "That's how we're going to turn the economy around and get America back on track, by giving the American people the incentives that they need to increase their spending, increase their savings, and increase consumer confidence."

NARRATOR: You've heard from the candidates in their own words. Is it still a question at this point who would make a better President of the United States?

- Scene cuts to Hillary For America logo and legal information -

HILLARY (VOICE OVER): I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 17, 2018, 07:19:58 PM
Republican Presidential Debate-Live from Florida

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Good Evening, I'm Megyn Kelly, and I'm the moderator for tonight's Republican Debate. I ask that our audience here be silent except for polite applause as our candidates walk onto the stage, which should be happening any minute now. This debate will have questions from me, and will allow the candidates to respond to any other candidate.

To Christie: You've according to my good friend Karl Rove, become the "establishment candidate" in the Republican field, with party insiders preferring your nomination. What do you have to offer that past "establishment" nominees didn't?

To Christie: You've only been Governor of New Jersey for about two years now. Do you believe that is enough experience to mount a successful Presidential Campaign and, if you win, serve effectively as President?

[To Fletcher:/i] As you are a lay minister who tried to make your church more evangelical, I have to ask, do you believe in Dominion Theology?

To Fletcher: Kentucky has one of the highest percentages of coal miners out of work.
What is your plan to put them back to work?


To Jones and Paul: What do you believe is the best approach to rebuilding Iraq?

To Jones: You've sided with the Democrats on raising the minimum wage. Does that make you an atypical Republican?

To Paul: Which remaining state do you think is your best chance at a victory?

To Carolla: Should you not win the nomination, what other candidate, Republican, Democrat or Independent, would you endorse?

To All: Do you believe our climate is warming, and if so, do you believe that humans share at least some of the responsibility?

To All: What type of tax cuts would you pursue as President?

To All:How do you propose to fix our deteriorating relationship with Pakistan?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 17, 2018, 08:32:07 PM
Carolla debate answers part 1
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1.What will your tax plan be like?
Carolla:Well I play to pretty much totally rewrite the tax code.  I am proposing a big slash in the income tax, A big slash in the corporate tax and make it around 20% so that we can complete and have a big edge in global markets, I have plan to get rid of all hidden taxes and fees. I plan a total repeal of the Death tax,the Estate tax,The Capital gains tax. The Medicare and social security tax. I also plan on a 15% flat tax rate on the income group. I propose 3 brackets, 10% 20% 30%. I also plan on a 85% tax cut on the gas tax.
Also I plan on abolish the IRS. I find it unconstitutional and the whole thing and it’s history just makes me sick. Also I will repeat this against from last debate. Chris Christie has admitted to tax hikes and it’s not just once.

I have people saying that my plan is the most conservative out of all the Republican candidates. Yes even Ron Paul’s no offense to him.

2.Who will you endorse if you don’t get the nomination?

Carolla:Well I have no idea yet since I have no plan to drop out anytime soon. But I definitely will prob be Ron Paul. I wouldn’t endorse Hillary Clinton,Joe Biden or Chris Christie that’s all I can say.  Biden and Clinton will be lucky to be mediocre and well with Christie I see him being a meh average president.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 17, 2018, 08:45:11 PM
New Endorsements for Joe Biden/surrogate schedules

Vice President Biden welcomes the endorsements of Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders and Jack Markell to his campaign.

Grayson will be campaigning in Florida, Sanders in Vermont and Maine, and Markell will be fundraising.

Al Gore will be stumping in Florida and South Carolina.

Phil Bredesen will be stumping in South Carolina

Shelly Berkeley will be stumping in Arizona, as well as stumping for her own election in Nevada.

Jim Clyburn and John Lewis will be stumping in South Carolina

Russ Feingold will be stumping in Florida and Michigan

Sherrod Brown will be stumping in Michigan, as well as for his own re-election in Ohio.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Blair on February 18, 2018, 08:46:50 AM
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Chris Christie South Carolina Speech.

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Thank you Charleston and thank you South Carolina. I said to my team that no-matter what happened in this race we were going to campaign hard in South Carolina- and we showed that when you turn up, and put forward a positive vision for America people listen. We'd been third, and even fourth in some of the polls, and lots of folks said it was a lost cause- but we're the clear runners up here, and I'm proud of how hard our campaign worked to come 2nd in South Carolina.

We put out a clear message to the folks in South Carolina- we need someone who can fight for American values, both at home and abroad. We need someone who values are troops, who wants to protect our veterans, and who wants to crush Radical Islamic Terror, no matter where it hides.

I said that I would go anywhere in America, with a microphone in hand to talk to folks about my vision, and my plan to get America moving again. I know that my message may not have been as well received in South Carolina, as it was in Iowa but I'd much rather come 2nd in this primary telling the truth. We've got to be honest with the American public. Elected officials have got to be held to a high standard.

I congratulate Governor Fletcher on his first win in this campaign. He's ran a passionate, and strong campaign here in South Carolina. I'd like to thank Governor Haley as well for her principled, and continued support of our campaign. She's a great rising star in the republican party; and she represents everything great about our party. Travelling around South Carolina has reaffirmed two things for me; we need a leader who isn't afraid to take on the out of touch unions in this country. South Carolina has managed to have great success as a right to work state, and this is something that should be done in every state in America.

I've also met with tons of great veterans and servicemen and women. Their stories, their courage and their service will stay with me forever, and I promise everyone who has worn uniform for our great Nation- I will fight for you.

Now let's show America that we're not afraid to get hit when we stand up for our values, we're not afraid to get knocked down and most of all, when we get knocked down we get back up. Now let's go on to Florida, and let's show America how hard we can fight!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 18, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Carolla debate answers part 2
1.To All: Do you believe our climate is warming, and if so, do you believe that humans share at least some of the responsibility?

Carolla:Well I think yes the climate is changing and that’s a problem. However here’s the thing that goes over people’s shoulders.  The people leading this whole climate change movement are a bunch of hypocrites who don’t do what they preach.  Al Gore may preach about what he thinks is the problem yet he goes around with his gas fuel car and jet airliners giving these types of speeches and don’t  go around on electric cars or solar power run vehicles.  They are who they preach against.  Which leads me into this they don’t care about what they preach and they use it in order for control and so they can have money.

But as for what I think. The government such as the EPA are ruining our environment and ruining our climate.  If we need to stop this threat of climate change then the Amercian people need to do it not the government.






Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 18, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
Hillary Clinton Surrogate Schedule
January 22 to January 31, 2012

Senator Jeanne Shaheen rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Senator Bill Nelson campaigns with Senator Clinton in Florida.

Mayor Tom Menino rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Governor Andrew Cuomo rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Senator Mark Warner rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in South Carolina.

Senator Dianne Feinstein campaigns with Senator Clinton in Florida.

Governor John Hickenlooper rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Arizona.

Senator Debbie Stabenow rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Senator Tom Harkin rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Congressman Dave Loebsack rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Governor Brian Schweitzer rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Arizona.

Governor Dannel Malloy leads fundraising efforts on the East Coast.

Former Senator Bob Graham rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Florida.

Former Florida CFO Alex Sink rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Florida.

Former Maine Governor John Baldacci rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 18, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
Carolla debate answers part 3

Carolla:We gonna reform our ties with Pakistan. They might be aillies with us however and we might arm with them however at the same time they are arming groups that have ties to Bin Laden.  Some we know and we don’t bother to do anything about it and others to be fair we don’t know about.

If we want to get Bin Laden with their help we got to I repeat to be alert on who we are targeting, How we are arming and how we are going to get Bin Laden.

I will try my very best to fix and make our ties with Pakistan stronger and more stable.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 18, 2018, 06:50:28 PM
Carolla campaign update
Carolla campaigned on energy independence, the space program and promote my his tax plan was the best in his rallies in Florida.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 18, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
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Campaign Schedule
Jan. 22 - Jan. 31
Schedule
January 22-31: Florida

January 22: Governor Fletcher held a Victory Campaign Rally the morning after the South Carolina Primary at the USC Aiken Convocation Center in Aiken, SC where he thanked his supporters, volunteers, and campaign staffers. He thanked them for "this tremendous campaign momentum." Ernie Fletcher also congratulated all the other candidates on the ballot for their performance in the primary. Glenna Fletcher joined the rally and said "We're going to go to Florida and we're going to spread our campaign message there. I hope the people of Florida know who to vote for, just like South Carolina" but "We'll be back in South Carolina!" Fletcher flew out to Tampa, Florida. He held a series of Town Halls in Hillsborough County, Manatee County, and Sarasota County in various local Arenas, Universities, and High Schools with as much time in the day as he had left.

January 23: Ernie Fletcher was honored to be endorsed by the Sun- Sentinel in a new issue by their newspaper. It said that "Governor Fletcher focuses solely on the issues and the experience of a candidate" and "Ernie is the only candidate with governing experience to fix a stagnant economy. His plan is the best for Florida families." Governor Fletcher spent most of the day in Orange County, Florida where he held a series of Town Halls. Ernie later held a Meet & Greet in Robert Arthur Williams Library meeting with voters talking about policy, and finished the day meeting with local business leaders.

January 24: Ernie Fletcher began the 24th with an On-the-phone interview with CNN. He answered questions about his win in South Carolina, his debate performance, and how Fletcher plans to win Florida. When asked he said that "We just have a message that resonates. That's how we have all this momentum." Fletcher also bragged a little bit about his debate performance, saying "Virtually every pundit and poll says I won that debate." When asked about his chances in Florida, Fletcher responded, "We're going to get a message out here, and hopefully that message resonates. We've got a great staff team out here."

Governor Fletcher then holds a campaign rally in Orlando, FL at the Amway Center. Fletcher highlights that "We have to do something about this stagnant economy. Platitudes and Clichés won't solve it. Policy will." He also highlights his many accomplishments as Kentucky Governor in dealing with a stagnant economy, including keeping businesses in the state, making coal jobs after years of decline, and balancing the state budget while cutting state taxes. Fletcher ended the day holding two fundraisers in Orlando, 40% of the money going to local food pantries and other charities.

January 25: Ernie Fletcher sat down for local radio interviews in the morning. He talked about several of his policies including his Tax Reform plan, plan to reduce crime, VA Accountability Reform plan, etc. He later held meetings with local political office holders in Orlando and counties surrounding to talk about local policy. Fletcher later drove to his Campaign HQ in Tampa, FL where he met with volunteers and campaign staffers. Fletcher held a campaign meeting to talk about a GOTV Strategy, as well as giving autographs and such to campaign staffers to help motivation.

Later on in the day, Fletcher had a one-on-one interview with FOX News. After asked about his role in the state tax cuts as Kentucky Governor, Fletcher answered and then criticized Christie's handling of State Taxes, said "We've got desperate times right now. If Florida wants a tax relief, you can trust me to pass that." Governor Fletcher ended the day with a Meet & Greet in USF Tampa Campus Library. Ernie flies to Panama City, FL overnight.

January 26: Fletcher spent the 26th holding a series of Town Halls in Bay County, Gulf County, and Franklin County. Ernie talked about his policies to help the panhandle region of Florida, saying "This region of Florida has suffered under the current administration. I'll get the tax relief you deserve, and we'll get our economy moving." He promised to "Regardless of how much political games that are played against me, I'll still get it passed. I've done it before."

Fletcher flew out to Pensacola, FL and held a campaign rally in the Pensacola Bay Center. Again, he told the audience "Tell you what, if you give me the opportunity to deliver tax relief, we'll do it, and we'll do it without Congress playing a political game against it. I'm tired of the bickering too" and "We're going to let people know that campaigns don't always have to be about mudslinging. This doesn't have to be about that. It can be about real policy debates and real experience debates. We can stop this corrosive game of political exploitation."

Governor Fletcher spent the rest of the day meeting with local business leaders in Pensacola to talk about better business policy.

January 27: Ernie held an on-the-phone interview with FOX News where he was asked about several policy questions, including a tax policy question. Fletcher held a "Barnstorm" tour in Escambia County, Santa Rosa County, Okaloosa County, and Walton County. He held a series of Town Halls in universities, arenas, and high schools in those 4 counties. Ernie later sat down for meetings with local business leaders, former Jindal supporters, fisherman, and to discuss policy issues. Fletcher also appeared on local radio stations. Fletcher ended the day with a Meet & Greet in Pensacola State College where he met with parents, teachers, students, and other Pensacola residents. Governor Fletcher flew to Jacksonville, FL overnight.

January 28: Ernie began the 28th with a Fundraiser at Jacksonville University where 30% of the funds raised went to local charities. He, later, took an interview with MSNBC. Fletcher held a campaign rally around noon at the Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena where he was honored to be endorsed by Florida Governor Rick Scott (which he hoped would give him a key boost days before the Primary). Rick Scott emphasized that "I'm not throwing Fletcher my endorsement for anything in benefit. I'm supporting him because as Governor, I am commanded under oath to support a candidate that will be the best for Florida. That candidate is Governor Ernie Fletcher." Fletcher held meetings with former Jindal supporters, former Jones Supporters, Evangelicals, and former Christie supporters. He flies out to Miami, FL overnight.

January 29: Fletcher spent most of the morning doing local newspaper interviews with newspapers like the Tampa Bay Times, Miami- Herald, Sun- Sentinel, Sarasota Herald- Tribune, etc. The interviews pointed out Christie's tax hikes in New Jersey in an effort to bring awareness to it and get voters from concerned Christie Supporters and potentially win Florida. Fletcher went on to do a series of Town Halls in Miami- Dade County. Florida Senator Marco Rubio joined several of them. He finished the day meeting with Former Jones Supporters, Former Jindal Supporters, and Former Christie supporters

January 30: Ernie Fletcher and Glenna Fletcher began the day meeting with voters at local Diners and Cafes. Soon after, both Ernie and Glenna take an on-the-phone interview with ABC News. They asked him why Jones, Jindal, Carolla, and Christie supporters should vote him among other questions. He answered stating, "If we really want to shock the establishment today, I'm your guy on the ballot that can do it." Glenna then flew out to Tampa, FL to deliver a pep talk to campaign staff at the Fletcher HQ.

Governor Fletcher holds a campaign rally at Marlins Park in Miami, FL. Ernie talks about the importance tomorrow that we "Get out and show the real momentum this campaign has. We're going to show an outperformance that hasn't been seen in a long time" and also talked about "When my opponents start debating on the issue, I find something interesting. When I debate more on the issues and not on who said this and who said that, more pundits and more polls say we win those debates. Folks, it's because people are starting to realize the issues we talk about are very important to their lives." Marco Rubio also joined the rally, saying to the crowd "Florida will be very critical for this campaign. I hope the voters tomorrow will realize that he is not the candidate for the media or the big gambling industry or anything like that. He is the candidate for you and only you."

January 31: On Primary Day, the Sun- Sentinel wrote an article encouraging voters to vote for Ernie Fletcher in their newest Newspaper. Governor Fletcher flew back to Tampa, Florida to meet with Campaign Staff at the Headquarters to talk about their GOTV Plan. Afterwards, Governor Fletcher and Glenna Fletcher moved to meeting voters at local diners, cafes, and libraries, encouraging them to vote for Fletcher. Both Fletchers went back to the Campaign HQ to call voters to hopefully get them to vote for Ernie.

After a while of campaigning and getting out the vote, Governor Fletcher holds a Results Rally at his Florida Campaign HQ in Tampa, Florida. After a projection is made, Ernie delivers a Post- Primary Results Speech



Florida ( January 22 - January 31 )
Key Issues: Family Values, Economic Recovery, Religious Freedom, Tax Cut Plan, Crime Reduction Plan




Campaign Staff Operations
  • Capitalize on the momentum from South Carolina
  • Reach out to Anti- establishment candidate supporters (Carolla, Paul, Jones) and make Fletcher seem more anti- establishment after the National Review attacked Fletcher
  • Emailing and Texting potential voters
  • Reaching out to Evangelicals and local church leaders, emphasizing his career as a preacher
  • Creating a message that resonates, talking about how Fletcher will take on "Washington Political Games" and get economic recovery
  • Reach out to Christie Supporters after his withdrawal, claiming that Fletcher is the closest candidate to Christie on many issues (and that his opponents have zealot views on national security)

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Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 18, 2018, 10:19:35 PM
What Carolla did part 1.5

Carolla went back on TV and had a interview with Fox News via phone and a interview with WTFV 9 in Orlando.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 18, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
An announcement from Walter Jones

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Friends,

You may have been wondering why you haven't seen me on the campaign trail in the past few days. A recent trip to the doctor has led me to discover that I have stage IV prostate cancer. With this development, I have had to rethink many things about my life. What it has caused me to realize is that I must fight this cancer with every ounce of energy in me. Unfortunately, this means that I can no longer have my first priority be politics. For this reason, I am hereby suspending my campaign for President.

I do not take this decision lightly. We have come so far in this campaign, from 2% to being a viable contender. I also must thank the passion of all of my supporters throughout this process, as well as the friends and family who have kept me strong along the way. I am forever indebted to all of you. Together, we highlighted the corruption of Washington, and we showed a better path for this nation: one of peace, prosperity, and the American way of life. This campaign may be over, but the spirit of the people has been ignited for years to come.

I also don't want my announcement to mean that I will stay quiet. I endorse my good friend Congressman Ron Paul for the Republican nomination. Serving in the House with Ron for many years, I know he is a man of profound integrity. He means what he says, and nobody can corrupt him. He is just the kind of leader we desperately need in the White House, and I encourage all of my supporters to stand with Congressman Paul in the primaries ahead.

The fight to take back this country isn't over. Once I finish my battle with cancer, I will return in full force to stand up to Washington. Thank you all for the support you've given me over the past year.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 19, 2018, 10:01:20 AM
Carolla campaigns on energy independence in Jacksonville
Now this might not be a well popular thing for the Republicans but that doesn’t really bother me.   
As I go around this state of Florida I see a whole bunch of ways of energy power.   From oil to coal and from that to solar.

I think our economy will boom coal and solar energy start completing with each other.  As President I will fight for clean coal I will cut regulations on coal and solar energy. I will cut taxes on solar and coal business.  I’ve talked with not just you coal miners out here in Jacksonville and I talked with you about your struggles and what this administration has done with coal and how it has tossed you over.

I have talked to solar energy workers out here too. Telling them my plan and them saying to me Hey this is a great plan I am all for it.   

We are losing a energy war to China and a few other countries and we don’t want to be losing any longer!!
*Crowd cheers and chants Carolla*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 20, 2018, 09:44:27 AM
What Carolla did part 2
Carolla campaigned in the working class areas of Florida in order of trying to win back the working class votes from the people who voted Obama in 2008.

Carolla also in a rally in Yubor City said he would not drop out of the race and that he might take it to the Convention.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on February 20, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
Wesley for America: January 22nd-January 31st, 2012 Schedule

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Fly to TN
Fundraising in Nashville, TN

Rally in Jackson, TN w/ Fmr. Rep. John Tanner:

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”...Hello, Tennessee!!! I’m experienced in politics, and I’m going to say, that’s all you’ll get with Hillary Clinton or Chris Christie: Politics, soundbites, no real solutions for the American people. I’m a fairly reasonable person, I tried to use bipartisanship when I was a congressman, even though I was a democrat. That mentality in Washington is gone. Its either run by extremists or extreme corporatists, there is no room for a reasonable third option. But there is, and it lies in General Clark. I’m endorsing his campaign for the Presidency...”

Rally in Knoxville, TN w/ Fmr. Rep. John Tanner
Rally in Nashville, TN w/ Fmr. Rep. John Tanner
Fly to NY

Rally in New York City, NY:

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”...Wow, look how amazing this is!!! Thousands of people, all gathering, all shouting for a real shot at some real hope and change!!!! Obama, you duped us four years ago. Bush was just a catastrophic failure, we shouldn’t have any more leadership from failed leaders, and the parties that create them. The Democrats and Republicans are out of touch with the majority of Americans, and New York, do you think the Democratic and Republican Leadership care about you, about your issues? Only in Election time, but it’s not sincere. I’m sincere. The movement we have created is a movement of love and change, I really think we have a good chance. Let’s change America, my friends!!!...”


Fly to NV
Rally in Reno, NV
Rally in Las Vegas, NV
Fly to AR

Rally in Little Rock, AR w/ Fmr. Sen. Blanche Lincoln
Fly to WV
Rally in Charleston w/ Fmr. Sen. Carte Goodwin

Fly to TX
Finishing the final touches on a national grassroots donation network with Mark Cuban in TX

Rally in Pittsburgh, PA w/ Mr. Mark Cuban:

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”...I’ve been all around this country in my life, I was born and raised in this lovely city, I’ve been in Dallas, I’ve had the chance to call many places my home. I’m so prideful that I get to do that in this country, and as an American, I’m afraid. I’m a businessman, most of you all know that. I’m a billionaire, so I’m better off than the rest of you financially, but I’m one of the rare... eh, sincere billionaires. I care about the common man, and I’ve inspected the 2012 field, and the only one who’s really sincere and cares is General Clark. He will clean up the mess in Washington, but he needs your help. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, New York, Texas, Arkansas, West Virginia, Oklahoma, let’s all unite, regardless of past affiliations as a red or blue state, and do what’s best for the nation!!! Let’s tackle the deficit, unemployment, the crippled economy, let’s make a change in Washington!!!...”

Fly to TX
Rally in Dallas, TX w/ Mark Cuban
Fly to FL

Rally in Orlando, FL:

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“... Orlando, I’m here to talk with you, and many Floridians today. You will hear a lot about, well you have heard a lot about the primary being held today. It’s pitiful how so many political games are put into our system. There begging for your votes, lying, doing anything it takes to win. I don’t blame them, it’s because they’re politicians. Well guess what America, we’ve had far too many politicians in Washington recently, most of whom are incompetent and not fit for the job. I’ve been behind the scenes for years, I’ve sat, I’ve observed, I’ve learned how the legislative system works. We need something, we need change in Washington. It needs to happen now, and I believe it will. Florida, let’s not elect another Bush, and let’s not elect four more years of the same failure. Let’s elect four years of something nice, a change, something that’ll boost America...”


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
"Volunteer"
Ernie Fletcher's 9th Television Ad
Aired in Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, Michigan, Nevada, and Missouri

Background Music: https://youtu.be/nv76KvFV748
(the music fades at the dialogue)


-Ad begins going through several scenes of cities and towns-

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-Ad moves to several scenes of Fletcher volunteers-

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(the ad shifts between scenes of Fletcher with campaign volunteers in between every quote)

"I supported Fletcher on day one. His message really resonates."

"Each week, we get more volunteers out here. It's incredible how many volunteers show up."

"I think a lot of people are focusing on his policies on fixing education or reducing crime or whatever it is. Fletcher focuses more on that than mudslinging. It really does resonate."

"What I've gotta say is that you need to go out and volunteer."





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"I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message"


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 02:53:49 PM
Campaign Surrogates

Rick Scott: After announcing his endorsement for Governor Fletcher, Scott spent time giving pep talks to Campaign Volunteers & Staff in the Northern Florida area near Jacksonville and Tallahassee. He joined GOTV Efforts with campaign staff and made local radio station appearances to show support for Fletcher. He also appeared on FOX News the day before the primary where he said "Fletcher has the best economic vision for this state" and "He is the only candidate that can deliver economic recovery quick."

Mike Pence: Representative Mike Pence took some time off the campaign trail in Indiana (he is a governor candidate) to give pep talks to campaign staff in Orlando. He also reached out to more religious local radio stations to show support for Fletcher. He called Fletcher's plan "very much for religious freedom" and said "He's the best candidate to make that happen." Later, he appeared on CNN to answer why he continued this support and touted Fletcher's record as a "governor who reformed Kentucky for the better"

Mike Huckabee: Huckabee spent most of his time in the panhandle of Florida in outreaching events to local religious leaders and individuals with campaign staff and volunteers. He joined GOTV Efforts in the Panhandle with campaign staff and delivered several pep talks to campaign staff to help momentum and motivation.

Newt Gingrich: Gingrich campaigned out in Orlando and led GOTV efforts with campaign staff & volunteers. He promoted Fletcher's energy, tax, and crime plan on a series of national interviews. Gingrich also held several fundraisers and led the fundraising efforts in Central Florida.

Marco Rubio: Rubio held several roundtable discussions with the Cuban community in Miami- Dade County. He joined several local Radio stations, including Cuban and English stations, to promote Fletcher's campaign where he promoted Fletcher's support for Florida communities. He led GOTV Efforts in Miami- Dade County.

Sonny Perdue: Perdue held several campaign fundraisers in the Panhandle and worked with Huckabee to get out the vote in the Panhandle. He also gave several pep talks to campaign staff in the Panhandle.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 03:39:49 PM
"Selfless"
Ernie Fletcher's 7th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in Missouri, Florida, Minnesota, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona

Narrated by Former Lt. Gen. Terry Gabreski

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"I served for our country on the frontlines, in the air force. I'm very proud of my service, being one of the first women to become a Lieutenant General."





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"In the Air Force, we didn't work for medals. We got the job done."





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"They did it because they cared more about duty than glory. They didn't hesitate. They acted selflessly."





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"One of those soldiers is Ernie Fletcher, he was stationed in Alaska serving as a F-4E Aircraft Commander."

"He was awarded the Outstanding Unit Award because Ernie acted selflessly. Putting his country's interests above his own."


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"If there was anyone I would want to lead the country, it would be Ernie because he's got the guts to lead this nation. He represents selflessness."




I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 21, 2018, 07:11:39 PM
Chris Christie suffers heart attack:
NJ Gov. survives, but is forced to withdraw before critical FL Primary

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While some questions had been raised regarding Gov. Chris Christie health, the Governor's fiery disposition and campaigning had put those questions to rest, leading most to conclude Christie had more than enough energy and health to win. However, his body resenting months of campaigning and the Governor exerting and pushing his body to the limit as the campaign in Florida heated up led to a personal tragedy as the Governor collapsed shortly after a particularly energized rally, all signs pointing to a heart attack.

Despite some tense hours it became clear Governor Christie would survive (and the damage was far less than originally expected), but it was judged impossible by himself, his wife and his closest advisers to continue in the race after such a tense health care. And while Christie has vowed to recover quickly and remain Governor of New Jersey, he dropped out of the race with only days to go until the decisive Florida Primary. Pundits have rushed to make their own predictions of the rapidly shrinking GOP field, most concluding Governor Ernie Fletcher is now the clear frontrunner against the insurgent bids of Ron Paul and Adam Carolla.

Still, the departure of the last "establishment" candidate has left many prominent GOP officeholders confused as how to react. While Governor Fletcher is acceptable to most of the party, there many who doubt he can defeat Senator Clinton or Vice-President Biden. Talk has shifted towards the possibility or one or two so called "white knights" to enter the primaries at this late stage (as almost all delegates are still are up for grabs) and make a push to challenge the surviving candidates.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 21, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
Biden campaign statement on Christie heart attack

We're sorry to see Governor Christie leave the race, and we wish him better health in the days ahead. We look forward to continuing to work with him on New Jersey issues, should we be elected.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 21, 2018, 09:43:37 PM
Represenative Michele Bachmann Presidential Annucment in Saint Paul, MN

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Michele Bachmann-"We need a new breed of Reagan conservative in the White House next year and that is why I am ready to announce my campaign for president. If we don't elect a conservative now we are going to lose a whole generation of conservatives that is why I knew I had to do my run now.

Now more than ever we need a conservative to reverse the disastrous effects of the Obama Administration. That is what I am going to, as president I am going lower taxes for hardworking Americans, balance our budget, end the war on coal and inspire a new generation of Reagan Conservative. I am going to do that all without falling into the political rhetoric and division of Washington.

Vote for me and help me break the glass ceiling next November!"


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 09:51:39 PM
7th Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher

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Debate Answers & Responses


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To Fletcher: As you are a lay minister who tried to make your church more evangelical, I have to ask, do you believe in Dominion Theology?

(laughing) Let me tell you, if I haven't made it clear already, I support the right to freedom of religion to every single American Church, business, and individual (audience applause). I think that that fundamental right has diminished in the past few decades, and I will make sure that we pass legislation for the restoration of religious freedom in every corner of America (audience applause).

I believe that the Ten Commandments should be taught, not as establishment of religion by government, but as education for our country's religions. I believe teachers should have the right to lead voluntary prayer, not as establishment of religion by government, but as freedom to practice religion. I believe that religious institutions should be treated equal as any other institution, not as establishment of religion by government, but to treat them equally as any other institution! (audience applause)

Because truthfully, that is all what religious freedom is about. This idea that people that former preachers support some form of theocracy is divisive, false rhetoric. I believe that freedom of religion and freedom to learn about religion should be treated as a human right (audience applause).

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To Fletcher: Kentucky has one of the highest percentages of coal miners out of work. What is your plan to put them back to work?

Well, I think it's a little weird how all these Republican candidates preach bringing jobs back, and particularly in this instance coal mining, when I'm the only one who actually has made coal mining jobs (audience applause). You had nearly 9,000 coal jobs lost the decade before my term as Governor. Let me tell you, the coal miners of this country have been ignored. When I governed Kentucky, we stopped this ignorance of the coal mining industry decline. Not only that, we made 3,000 coal mining jobs from my first fiscal year budget to the end of my last one.

From the beginning of President Barack's first fiscal budget, Kentucky coal miners, alone, have lost, and it pains me to say this, more than a thousand coal mining jobs. Under a President Fletcher, that loss will be no more (audience applause). Not only will we save coal mining, we will save manufacturing, agriculture, transportation, and so much more. We will govern in a way that has created successes before and will now. (audience clapping)

And let's dispel that we can't be environmentally responsible with all of this. In Kentucky, we formed the state's first comprehensive energy policy. We supported renewable energy, and we still created coal mining jobs. We have to understand that it doesn't have to be one or the other. (audience clapping)

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To All: Do you believe our climate is warming, and if so, do you believe that humans share at least some of the responsibility?

Y'know, 25 years ago, President Reagan offered his enthusiastic support for the Montreal Protocol, so I think that we can be good stewards of the environment and conservative. We can acknowledge that humans might share responsibility in the climate, but we can also fight climate change. I will support a 25x'25 plan to make renewable energy a big part of our economy. I'll continue the fight on CFCs like Reagan did.

Renewable Energy can create such a great boost for our economy. It can be a step for lower gas prices and energy independence. It can be a step for green jobs in our economy, and I think it's good to acknowledge we can do this without a regulation burden on coal companies. We CAN be good stewards of the environment and keep coal jobs. It is not a black-and-white issue.

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To All: What type of tax cuts would you pursue as President?

Everyone on this stage is obviously going to promise a tax cut, but I've promised that before and I've done it. In Kentucky, I got 125,000 Kentuckians off the state tax rolls entirely, gutted the corporate license tax, and cut the corporate income tax. We passed all that with a Democratic State Senate. In the House, I voted for every single tax cut. I WILL get taxes cut, and you can absolutely trust me on that. (audience claps)

Here's my tax policy in short, Simple tax brackets, every American gets a cut, no removing tax deductions. I'll create 4 simple tax brackets of 9.5%, 13%, 24%, and 35%. I'll get the corporate tax cut to 20% and I will get rid of the death tax. (audience applause)

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To All: How do you propose to fix our deteriorating relationship with Pakistan?

This is my bid on my Pakistan policy: We need to address the concerns of Pakistan's security by moving forward on stability in Afghanistan with Pakistan. I think we should be encouraging gestures of trust with India through trilateral talks and increased military cooperation and intelligence sharing on common threats.

We need to move to a sustainable policy of peace and prosperity. The people of Pakistan view us as the biggest threat to world peace. We need to push a policy where we're no longer viewed as that. A policy that makes us seen as peacemakers, not world threats.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
"He Served"
Ernie Fletcher's 3rd Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in Florida, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, Nevada, Michigan, and Missouri

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Veteran #1: "We arrived in Vietnam in December, December 10th"
Veteran #2: "We were fighting in what was called Viet Cong. Some just called it North Vietnam."
Veteran #3: "I was there for more than a year, and by then, we had at least 75 wounded"




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Veteran #1: "They broke through our lines. It was hell. We had about 52 wounded and 21 killed after the first year, maybe more. I was one of the 12 to come back home."




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Veteran #2: "We had over 100 wounded at least and 62 dead. Vietnam was hell. Stuff like that, you just don't forget."




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Veteran #3: "48 years ago, I had my helicopter shot down. I know several of the people I knew had died in combat. I can't believe I made it alive. Life after the war was tough. We didn't get thanked for our service. Never."




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Veteran #2: "Corporal Ernie thanked me for my service. It was a... rewarding feeling. Especially coming from another veteran."




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Veteran #1: "Takes a Veteran to understand a Veteran,"




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Veteran #1: "And he is a Veteran."




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Veteran #3: "He has a Veteran's best interest in mind. He knows when he makes foreign policy decisions that it affects lives. Ernie Fletcher is a Veteran's best friend. After all, he did serve."




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Veteran #1: "And he said.. 'Thank you for your service.' tearing up"






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I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 10:01:30 PM
"A Leader"
Ernie Fletcher's 4th Television Ad (replayed)
Aired in Florida, Missouri, Michigan,Minnesota, Arizona, and Nevada

Narrated by Ernie Fletcher from the 2nd Presidential Debate

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Fletcher: I explain my bid like this:



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Fletcher: These past events were made specifically to play a game of political gotcha and dirty politics.



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Fletcher: A game the majority of Americans disapprove of and for good reason.




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Fletcher: I share the disappointment and dissatisfaction of the American people of the political rhetoric of our nation's leaders and our current administration. The fact is the political machine of our nation's leaders is a failed system that has served no Americans except itself. As President,



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Fletcher: I will not play this game of political gotcha and it's about time we end it in Washington.




I'm Ernie Fletcher and I approve this message.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 21, 2018, 10:10:01 PM
Carolla campaign statement response to Chris Christie’s health emergency
While we have had our disagreements. I am very saddened by the news of Mr Chrsitie’s Heart attack.
Me and my family wish the best of luck for him during this time.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 21, 2018, 10:12:42 PM
Fletcher Campaign's Florida GOTV Strategy
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Seeking momentum, The Fletcher Campaign is hoping to win in Florida. After the momentum from South Carolina, the Fletcher campaign is hoping to vastly outnumber it's opponents in Volunteers & Staff. The main plan is to hold on to Fletcher's base and make gains from Former Christie Supporters, Former Jindal Supporters, and Former Romney Supporters. With surrogates hitting the trail in key voter bases, the campaign is hoping to rack up the numbers in Miami, Tampa, Orlando, the Panhandle, and areas near Jacksonville. Seeing this as a pivotal moment for the campaign, Fletcher seeks to win the primary with 40%+, or maybe, 45%+ of the vote. The campaign will be working tirelessly to win the state and be the 2nd win where Fletcher wins every delegate.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 22, 2018, 03:28:21 PM
Debate Winner:

GOP:

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With only three candidates left standing, Carolla, Paul and Fletcher all took the stage as in the span of a few days 50% of the Florida GOP vote (and almost 40% of the national vote) was virtually up for grabs in the twin departure of Jones and Christie. Unlike the past debates, few (if any) direct criticisms or attacks took place, the time spent by the three candidates (who remain unknown to many across the nation even now) describing their various views and philosophies on crucial matters. With Adam Carolla remaining third, the fight between Fletcher and Paul was close but with a clear edge for Congressman Ron Paul, who was successful in appealing to many Tea Party types in the wake of his Jones endorsement. While this is believed to substantially improve his credibility, several of Paul's stances on the issues are not to the taste of many Republicans (even when compared to Fletcher, and so it will remain to be seen how high or how low his ceiling might be.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 22, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
Primary Results:

"Upon a fascinating campaign, which included brutal attacks on the airwaves against Vice-President Joe Biden, we can see the Vice-President obtaining his much needed victory in South Carolina after virtually gambling his campaign on it. On the other side of the coin, Clinton's attacks appear to have been highly damaging in Florida, with the Senator trouncing the Vice-President and taking a firm lead in the delegate count:

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Democratic South Carolina Primary:

Joe Biden: 55.21% (30)
Hillary Clinton: 44.19% (25)

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Democratic Florida Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 58.87% (163)
Joe Biden: 41.13% (113)

Democratic Primary:

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Delegates:

Hillary Clinton: 251
Joe Biden: 200

Superdelegates:
(Not included in the delegate count above)

Hillary Clinton: 37
Joe Biden: 20
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"And on the reduced Republican field, it appears Ron Paul has scored quite the upset following a debate victory and an inspired campaign in Florida despite being considered a poor fit for the state. While Governor Ernie Fletcher achieves the predicted victory in this vital state and walks away with 50 delegates, he's kept below 40% as Congressman Paul reaches 33%, followed by Carolla's 27%. Doubtlessly a result that cements Governor Fletcher as the frontrunner for the nomination, but casts Ron Paul as a credible and strong rival, and heralds the arrival of new Republican candidates to the race.

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Republican Florida Primary:

Ernie Fletcher: 39.29% (50)
Ron Paul: 33.55% (0)
Adam Carolla: 27.16% (0)


Republican Primary:

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Delegates:

Ernie Fletcher: 81
Ron Paul: 8
Adam Carolla: 2
Uncommitted: 24


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on February 22, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
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2012 Announcement Speech from Former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania

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Thank you, Thank you!!! It's great to be here in Philadelphia, one of the largest cities in Pennsylvania. I have been watching the Republican Primary and the one person I supported more than anyone else was Governor Christie, so just like everyone else, I was shocked that he dropped out. Now, a false Conservative like Ernie Fletcher or the Libertarian Ron Paul is our potential Front-runners? Give me a break! I'd rather have an iron rod shoved down my throat than one of those two be our Nominee to face either Senator Clinton or Vice President Joe Biden come November. And don't get me started on Adam Carolla. He is a here today, Gone Tomorrow Candidate and is using his Supporters for votes. He preaches the land of Milk and Honey but has no experience or knowledge of how to give it. Unlike Carolla, we need someone with Political Experience. Unlike Fletcher, we need someone from Washington. Unlike Paul, we need a real conservative come November to even have a chance at winning. That's why I'm announcing my run for the Republican Nomination for President of the United States of America because I have the courage to fight for America unlike anyone else! May God bless you all, I will see you all on the Campaign trail !


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Senator Spiral on February 23, 2018, 01:59:58 PM
SCOTT BROWN FOR PRESIDENT

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Boston, MA:

It's good to be here with you all tonight!

As we all know, we've seen some seismic shifts in the primaries. It's a tragedy that Governor Christie and Congressman Jones have had their own health problems to deal with, and I wish them the absolute best in their recovery. This can't all be prevented, though. It's life. We deal with the unpredictable all the time, and when the goings get tough, we've gotta be there to fight it out. That's why I'm giving them my total support.

Why am I here on this stage tonight, ladies and gentlemen? After hearing from so many of my constituents, and from Americans all across the country, I've felt as if I have to serve my country in this new and unexpected role: running for President of the United States. I'm running for President to change the lives of millions of Americans for the better. I'm running to give families a decent living and for kids to have the opportunity to succeed. When I say that, I think about my own upbringing. I had a rough childhood. When I was 16, I didn't know what I was going to do. I didn't think I was going to amount to anything. Enough people gave me a chance in this great country, though, and now I stand before you as the man who succeeded Ted Kennedy in the Senate.

The American Dream is real! We can all aspire towards this. It's clear that the dream has gotten harder to achieve in the past few years, though. We've seen a horrible recession, a lagging recovery, and a failure of leadership at the very top. The vision that Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden share is not the way to go. The question is, who will take the fight to them? I'm a survivor. I'm a lieutenant colonel and a member of the National Guard for over 30 years. I know what it means to be confronted with a challenge, but also to overcome them. As President, I'll take that same philosophy to the White House.

Over the coming weeks, you'll see this campaign begin to take shape. I'll be out stumping across the country just as I did in Massachusetts: talking to voters, shaking hands, getting to know people. I've never forgotten where I've come from in life. Now it's my turn to give Americans the same opportunity that I was granted.

I'm Scott Brown, I drive a pickup truck, and I'm running to be your next President. Thank you all!


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 25, 2018, 07:23:19 PM
Turn Nine: The Plot Thickens:
February 1st to February 7th, 2012

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In the News!

Christie, Jones withdrawal stuns GOP
Voters up for grabs as Ernie Fletcher becomes frontrunner

Biden wins SC, lives to fight another day
Vice-President carries on, but takes substantial damage from ad attacks

Three new challengers for the GOP
Establishment in panic, Bachmann, Santorum and Brown join primary

1.- Turn: This turn covers a single week, but a crucial one in politics. In OTL this featured the aftermath of Gingrich's meltdown in Florida and the shock rise of Santorum, and this may be a chance for you to score upsets in the middle of a confusing political situation. The battles to fight are the Republican and Maine caucuses in February 4, and on February 7 we will have the Minnesota caucus (both parties), Colorado Caucus (Republican), Missouri Primary (Democratic) and the Missouri "Beauty Contest" (Republican, a primary with no actual delegates, but with considerable momentum and prestige associated).

GE Polling

RCP Average:
2012 Presidential Election:

Generic Republican: 44%
Generic Democrat: 44%
Wesley Clark: 7%
Undecided: 5%

Primary Polling

RCP: Republican Primary:

Ernie Fletcher: 31%
Ron Paul: 20%
Adam Carolla: 16%
Scott Brown: 13%
Michelle Bachmann: 8%
Rick Santorum: 6%
Undecided: 6%

Republicans: Confusion in the GOP

Fully expecting a showdown between Fletcher and Christie to determine who the frontrunner for the nomination would be, the GOP had no way to predict the events that would ensure in the first couple of days after the South Carolina Primary. The withdrawal of Walter Jones stunned plenty in the party despite fears of his campain no longer being viable, and his endorsement of Ron Paul opened some speculation as to whether there could be another credible challenger in the making. The heart attack suffered by Chris Christie and his exit from the primary with several days to go until Florida, however, meant that all hell broke loose.

All of a sudden, large parts of the GOP voting base had been left without a candidate, and the establishment panicked. Having bet heavily on Christie after Romney left the stage (and relying on the Governor's strong GE polling), they were soon left with an unappealing field which featured two Libertarian-aligned candidates not to their taste (Carolla and Paul) and Fletcher, who despite having more credibility as a former Governor is seen as unelectable on account of his past indictment. These misgivings also reached many Tea Party supporters, who weren't fully sold on Paul's views as an obvious alternative.

As Paul, Carolla and Fletcher fought to secure Florida and win a decisive sprinboard, frantic discussions took place in the backstage in the attempt to fight a so called "white knight" to contest the nomination and save the GOP from what many considered potential defeat. With Carolla soon left behind in Florida against the superior organization of his contenders, Fletcher continued to make progress to build his national image due to his continous attack on "political games" (which, constantly unanswered, have allowed him to start crafting his own reputation in the minds of the voters), but was undercut by what many have begun to consider repetitive adversiting. It was therefore a surprise that Congressman Paul stepped up decisively with strong debate performances, advertising and campaiging despite the unpopularity of his views among many in the party.

Paul rode a wave of momentum that placed him strong in Florida and gave him the claim to be the strongest challenger to now frontrunner Fletcher. And the morning after the primary, the three new Republican candidates (all very unexpected names) made their sudden appearance: Senator Scott Brown, former Senator Rick Santorum and Rep. Michelle Bachmann, all known for Tea Party or social conservative ties rather than Establishment or fully moderate credentials. What would happen next?

RCP: Democratic Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 56%
Joe Biden: 41%
Undecided: 3%

Democrats: An inevitable nominee?

In a primary that continues to be fascinating despite lacking as much drama as the GOP race, Vice-President Biden and Senator Clinton fought what seemed to be a stalemate in the latest contests, with Biden taking South Carolina and Clinton capturing Florida. Still, it has been noted by many that the latest days can be considered a significant success by Hilary Clinton, who not only make decisive delegate gains in Florida, but has also expanded her national lead over Biden as a series of anti-Biden ads start to make impact and heavy damage. Clinton, some argue, is more hurt by the circumstances of the primary (having challenged and dethroned a President beloved by a wing of the party and by minority voters) than by current events, having led solid efforts and a message that somewhat dulls the distrust she inspires among some in the party.

By contrast, many observers continue to be disappointed with Vice-President Biden, who while successful in pivoting to the left and claiming a progressive mantle, has failed to expand his base of supporters and has been repeatedly surpassed by Clinton in organization and messaging. The latest example came last week, as the lack of advertising compared to Clinton's harsh attacks had very negative effects for the Biden campaign and their standing in the polls, which beings to slip away. There are those who believe Biden has what it takes to turn the race around and stun Clinton, but there is a question of whether the Vice-President will be able to make the ambitious, large-scale effort that it would take to change the course of the primary.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 25, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
GOP Average Polling:

NEVADA:

Ron Paul: 36%
Adam Carolla: 21%
Ernie Fletcher: 21%
Scott Brown: 9%
Michelle Bachmann: 5%
Rick Santorum: 4%
Undecided: 4%

MAINE:

Ron Paul: 32%
Scott Brown: 23%
Adam Carolla: 18%
Ernie Fletcher: 16%
Michelle Bachmann: 3%
Rick Santorum: 2%
Undecided: 6%

MINNESOTA:

Ernie Fletcher: 27%
Michelle Bachmann: 24%
Ron Paul: 23%
Adam Carolla: 13%
Scott Brown: 8%
Rick Santorum: 3%
Undecided: 3%

COLORADO:

Ernie Fletcher: 31%
Ron Paul: 20%
Scott Brown: 17%
Adam Carolla: 12%
Michelle Bachmann: 10%
Rick Santorum: 5%
Undecided: 5%

MISSOURI:

Ernie Fletcher: 39%
Michelle Bachmann: 14%
Rick Santorum: 13%
Ron Paul: 11%
Scott Brown: 10%
Adam Carolla: 9%
Undecided: 4%

ARIZONA:

Ernie Fletcher: 32%
Scott Brown: 19%
Ron Paul: 17%
Adam Carolla: 13%
Michelle Bachmann: 7%
Rick Santorum: 5%
Undecided: 7%

MICHIGAN:

Ernie Fletcher: 40%
Scott Brown: 19%
Michelle Bachmann: 12%
Ron Paul: 11%
Adam Carolla: 8%
Rick Santorum: 4%
Undecided: 8%

WASHINGTON:

Adam Carolla: 25%
Ernie Fletcher: 23%
Ron Paul: 21%
Scott Brown: 11%
Michelle Bachmann: 7%
Rick Santorum: 5%
Undecided: 8%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on February 25, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
DEM Average Polling:

MINNESOTA:

Joe Biden: 52%
Hillary Clinton: 44%
Undecided: 4%

MISSOURI:

Hillary Clinton: 53%
Joe Biden: 42%
Undecided: 5%

MAINE:

Hillary Clinton: 54%
Joe Biden: 40%
Undecided: 6%

ARIZONA:

Hillary Clinton: 57%
Joe Biden: 38%
Undecided: 5%

MICHIGAN:

Hillary Clinton: 48%
Joe Biden: 48%
Undecided: 4%


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 25, 2018, 09:10:54 PM
Michele Bachmann's Campaign Schedule For Feburary 1st to 7th

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Minnestota:Feburary 1st to 3rd

Feburary 1st

Saint Paul, MN: Launch of National Campaign Headquarters

Minneapolis, MN: Rally with Bachmann

Coon Rapids, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters

Feburay 2nd

Saint Cloud, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters

Moorhead, MN: Townhall with Bachmann

Bemidji, MN: Townhall with Bachmann

Duluth, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters

Twin Cities, MN: Rally with Bachmann

Feburary 3rd

Coon Rapids, MN: Rally with Bachmann

Saint Paul, MN: Rally with Bachmann

Bloomington, MN: Townhall with Bachmann

Minneapolis, MN: Endorsement Rally with Bachmann and Former Governor Tim Pawlenty

Saint Cloud, MN: Rally with Bachmann and Former Governor Tim Pawlenty

Colorado: Feburary 4th

Feburary 4th

Boulder, CO: Meet and Greet with Voters

Denver, CO: Rally with Bachmann

Aspen, CO: Rally with Bachmann

Missouri: Feburary 5th to 6th

Feburary 5th

Jefferson City, MO: Endorsement Rally with Bachmann and Representative Kristi Noem

Columbia, MO: Townhall with Bachmann

Hanibal, MO: Meet and Greet with Voters

Saint Charles, MO: Rally with Bachmann

Feburary 6th

Saint Louis,MO: Rally with Bachmann

Clayton, MO: Townhall with Bachmann

Saint Charles, MO: Rally with Bachmann and Representative Kristi Noem

Minnestota: Feburary 7th

Feburay 7th

Saint Paul, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters at Caucus Site

Minneapolis, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters at Caucus Site

Twin Cities, MN: Meet and Greet with Voters at Caucus Site

Saint Cloud, MN: Election Night Rally with Bachmann

Campaign Staff Operations

  • Recruit Percent Captian
  • Reach out to Conservative Women
  • Reach out to weak anti-establishment voters from Carolla
  • Reach out to weak Tea-Party voters from Fletcher and Santorum
  • Focus on lowering taxes, helping business, 2nd amendment rights and shrinking government
  • Call and Text Voters to bring them out


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on February 25, 2018, 09:12:31 PM
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Santorum Campaign from February 1st-February 7th

February 1st-February 3rd: Campaign in Missouri, strategy is to get as Much Support as possible by using his social conservativism policies, such as Taxes and Abortion.

Highlights:

Rally in St. Louis on February 2nd:

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St. Louis, St Louis, St. Louis. A good place to be for a Conservative. I believe I need to say something: My opponents are against me for foolish reasons. The media, they claim I'm a rampant Homophobe. Well I want to say this: Just because I oppose Don't Ask, Don't Tell's repeal does not make me a Homophobe. It was a law set in by President Bill Clinton, A Democrat I remind each and every one of you who think that I'm a homophobe. Obama repealed this law, which I see as stupid. The law was very, very clear. If no one asks you about being gay, then don't tell them. It's not oppresive. It's common decency. Common decency that President Obama failed to realize. I, as President, will re-instate the law and order of the military as well as common decency shall return to it.

I would also like to mention that I will defund and abolish planned Parenthood. It's a terrible organization that kills lives before they can begin. I'm against abortions even when rape is involved but for a big reason: One violence is enough. We don't need another.

Finally, I want to create something called a Spend-o-Meter that tracks the spending Congress does. Every year, there is too much spending from them. As President, I will set a limit to their rampant spending, they go over said limit, and, well,
it won't be pretty, let me just say that.

I, not another Candidate, promise to fight for America Bec I have the courage to do so. No one else.

Feb 4th-Feb 7th: Campaign in Alabama and Mississippi on social conservativism


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 26, 2018, 03:13:44 PM
Ernie Fletcher's Surrogates
Campaign Surrogates

Paul LePage: Gov. LePage hit the campaign trail in Maine days before the Maine Caucus by giving a couple pep talks to Fletcher Campaign Staff in Augusta, ME. He joined campaign staff in outreaching to local former Romney supporters and holding several events to bring former Romney supporters to caucus for Fletcher. He also showed up on several local radio stations strongly encouraging Maine Republicans to caucus for Fletcher on Feb. 4th in hopes of gaining a thousand or more caucus goers over the four days. He led most the GOTV Efforts in Maine.

Mike Pence: Rep. Mike Pence flew out to Minnesota to deliver several pep talks to Fletcher Campaign Staff and help momentum and motivation in the state. Pence joined local campaign efforts in reaching out to local fishermen and businessmen. He called Fletcher's plan "the best and most effective plan for business" and also said "Fletcher's tax cutting policies will greatly help the fishing industry." On Caucus Day, Pence helped get out the vote joining GOTV efforts with campaign staff.

Mike Huckabee: Huckabee did not join much on the campaign trail, but he made various national media interviews where he promoted Governor Fletcher's campaign in an attempt to boost his national recognition.

Newt Gingrich: Gingrich flew out to Carson City, NV to meet with campaign staff. He held several events with campaign staff reaching out to local Romney supporters, latinos, and religious leaders where he promoted Fletcher's campaign as "the only one who will get real legislation passed that benefits us." Gingrich also took several national media interviews to promote Fletcher's campaign. Gingrich led and coordinated most GOTV Efforts in Carson City and surrounding areas.

Bill Owens: Gov. Bill Owens, who had surprisingly taken interest in the 2012 election, began February giving pep talks to motivate Fletcher campaign staff in Colorado. Bill met with campaign leaders in Denver, CO to talk about GOTV Plans. After that, Owens held a series of round-table discussions in Colorado with his supporting promoting his campaign and policy platform.

Sonny Perdue: Perdue flew out to Colorado and held several fundraisers. Perdue led the fundraising efforts in Colorado.

Haley Barbour: After endorsing Fletcher, Gov. Barbour appeared on national tv interviews saying Fletcher, "was always my 2nd choice for President" and promoted his campaign to former Christie supporters. He also promotes tax policy and foreign policy on national interviews. He calls it "Smart, but also stable" and says "Right now, Fletcher has the best policy to fix our broken foreign policy." Haley flies out to Urban Maine to hold several round-table discussions with former Christie supporters and talks about how "If you supported Christie before, Fletcher is the best option in the race right now."

Marco Rubio: After the Florida primary, Rubio continued to show his support for Fletcher. He flew out to Las Vegas, NV. Marco met with campaign staff and gave a couple pep talks before meeting with campaign leaders to talk about a GOTV Plan. Rubio later held several events called "Hispanics for Ernie" where Marco outreached to local Hispanics with campaign leaders to caucus for Ernie on Nov. 4th. Marco led GOTV Efforts on the 4th. After the Nevada Caucus, Rubio appeared on CNN, FOX News, and other news anchors to promote Fletcher's campaign (while making time for congressional duties)

Matt Blunt: Blunt continued campaigning with Fletcher campaign staff including several "Missourians for Ernie" events as well as several pep talks and meet & greets. Different from other weeks, Matt Blunt appeared on local Missouri news stations to promote Fletcher's policy on crime and taxes.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 26, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
What Carolla did part 1
Carolla went out to Nevada and try to show the people how fillmiar He is too the state of Nevada and also tried to reach out to former Jones supporters and tried to show himself as the most libertarian candidate in the race.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 26, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
FOXNEWS BREAKING NEWS: Bachmann backed by Pawlenty and Noem

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Megyn Kelly-"Welcome back to the Kelly File and right now we have breaking news from the Bachmann campaign. Bachmann has been endorsed by both former Governor of Minnesota Tim Pawlenty and Representative from South Dakota Kristi Noem.

The office of Pawlenty wrote in his statement-" I have decided to endorse the only true conservative in the race and the only conservative that will actually bring real change to Washington. That is why I ask my fellow Republicans to support Michele Bachmann for president." also the office of Noem wrote-"We need a tea party conservative in the white house next year and that is why I am so excited to endorse Michele Bachmann. We need real change next year and we don't need to nominate another corrupt Washington politician. Bachmann knows how to bring change and bring conservative values to Washington."

Both Noem and Pawlenty will campaign with Bachmann this week leading up to the Missouri, Minnesota and Colorado caucus. Bachmann hopes that with these endorsements she will be able to win Minnesota and win a strong second in Missouri. Whether or not that happens these endorsements are a big deal since it shows she can win support from both the Tea-Party and establishment Republicans"


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 26, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
Michele Bachmann Surrogate Schedule

Former Governor Tim Pawlenty:
After an endorsement rally in Minnesota, Pawlenty lead the GOTV Plans in Minnesota. He also barnstormed the St. Cloud area while leading events called Minnesotans for Bachmann.

Reperestive Kristi Noem: After endorsing Bachmann in Missouri, she barnstormed North Eastern Missouri. Noem's main goal for the week was to bring conservative women to the polls in both Missouri and Minnesota in support of Bachmann. While Noem was not on the campaign trail she was the face of the campaign on tv broadcast when Bachmann couldn't herself be interviewed.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 26, 2018, 04:18:31 PM
Hillary Clinton Campaign Schedule
February 1 to February 7, 2012

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February 1: Senator Clinton holds an early morning press conference in Tallahassee, Florida to thank her supporters and her surrogates "who worked tirelessly" to secure the massive Clinton victory in the Sunshine State. After the press conference, she flies to Washington, D.C.

February 2: Senator Clinton spends the day on Senate-related work, while senior campaign staffers hold strategy talks in Baltimore.

February 3: Senator Clinton spends the day on Senate-related work, while senior campaign staffers hold strategy talks in Baltimore.

February 4: Senator Clinton flies from Washington, D.C. to Minneapolis, Minnesota early in the morning. She holds a town hall meeting at the Cowles Center for Dance and the Performing Arts in Minneapolis in the morning, using it as a platform to convey her economic policy to the "hardworking folks of the Upper Midwest". After the town hall, Senator Clinton drives to St. Paul and holds a rally in Xcel Energy Center. In her speech, Senator Clinton laments Vice President Biden's "continual gaffes and faux pas" and argues that "one of his slip up at the wrong moment could destabilize" the global community. She also presents her economic recovery plan as "better for the real working class" than Vice President Biden's. In the evening, she has dinner with a group of Clinton Campaign volunteers in St. Cloud and then spends an hour making GOTV phone calls with them.

February 5: Senator Clinton and Former President Clinton attend morning services at the Hennepin Avenue United Methodist Church. After the services, Senator Clinton and Former President Clinton fly to Michigan. Upon arrival in Ann Arbor, Michigan, Senator Clinton, Former President Clinton, and Senator Debbie Stabenow tour the University of Michigan Medical School and meet with "the doctors of tomorrow". After the tour, the trio travel across town to Michigan Stadium where they hold a rally. Senator Stabenow introduces Former President Clinton, who introduces Senator Clinton. Much like the rally in Minnesota, Senator Clinton uses the Michigan rally to present her economic recovery plan. After the rally in Michigan, Senator Clinton flies back to Minnesota.

February 6: Senator Clinton spends the morning door knocking with Clinton Campaign volunteers in Duluth, Minnesota. After a few hours of door knocking, Senator Clinton drives to Virginia, Minnesota, where she tours a portion of George Washington State Forest. She uses the opportunity to discuss the need for strict environmental controls to preserve "our natural bounty" while also protecting jobs. From Virginia, Minnesota, Senator Clinton flies to Rochester, Minnesota. In Rochester, she tours the IBM facility their. She applauds IBM for "always being on the cutting edge" of technology and industry. Senator Clinton also meets with employees of Think Mutual Bank and stresses the importance of "local, community banks" to the American economy. Over night, Senator Clinton flies to Missouri.

February 7: Senator Clinton begins the day by door knocking with Clinton Campaign volunteers in Kansas City, Missouri. She then travels to the Clinton Campaign's Missouri State Headquarters in Kansas City and makes an hour of GOTV calls with volunteers. Senator Clinton then tours the Sprint office in Kansas City and meets with employees there, praising Sprint's role in "America's technological revolution." She also visits several polling locations in nearby Independence, Missouri. Senator Clinton takes an early evening flight to Bloomington, Minnesota to hold a final GOTV rally at Normandale Community College. After the GOTV rally, she travels around to various caucus sites to rally caucusgoers. She and senior campaign staffers watch results come in from Missouri and Minnesota at the JW Marriot Minneapolis.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 26, 2018, 07:00:41 PM
New endorsements/surrogate schedules

Joe Biden is pleased to accept the endorsements of Greg Stanton, Phil Gordon, Al Franken and Jerry Brown.

Biden's surrogates will be campaigning as follows:

Beau Biden will be campaigning in Minnesota and Missouri

Jim Clyburn will be campaigning in Georgia, Alabama,Missouri, and Michigan

Shelley Berkeley will be campaigning for her Senate seat, plus for Biden in Arizona.

Carl Levin will be campaigning in Michigan.

John Lewis will be campaigning in Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee and Michigan.

Sherrod Brown will be campaigning in Michigan and Minnesota.

Al Gore will be campaigning in Michigan, Minnesota and Maine.

Alan Grayson will be fundraising in Florida.

Bernie Sanders will be campaigning in Michigan, Minnesota, Maine and Vermont.

Jack Markell will be campaigning in Delaware.

Jerry Brown will be campaigning in Arizona and California.

Greg Stanton and Phil Gordon will be campaigning in Arizona.

Phil Bredesen will be campaigning in Tennessee, Georgia, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama and Mississippi.

Russ Feingold will be campaigning in Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri and Maine.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 26, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
Bachmann's First Campaign Advertisement Buy: "Rights"
Bought In Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan, North Dakota, South Dakota and Ohio

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Narrator-"We need a candidate in the white house that knows what the constitution stands for and what rights are granted to the people of the United States."

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Narrator-"That's why we need to nominate Michele Bachmann for president. She knows what needs to be done to protect the constitution. She will also protect people's rights wether freedom of religion or freedom to own a firearm or freedom to be secure in there own house, she will protect them as president."

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Michele Bachmann-"I understand the constitution and as president, I am going protect your rights and I will never allow another person to oppress your natural rights granted by God."

Narrator-"Let's elect the true Tea-Party conservative in the race and elect Michele Bachmann to be president next year to protect mine, yours and everybody's natural rights."

I'm Michele Bachmann and I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 27, 2018, 09:13:30 AM
Carolla campaigns in Nevada on the tax code

Now I see people on the Democratic side and even with more well more moderate Republicans that the we should have a Tax rate above 33%!  That’s is bogus and let me tell you why.  A study by a bunch of well known and trusted economists and before you say it yes it’s a bipartisan group of both liberal and conservative economists.  Even they agreed with the fact and the truth that is if the code on anything and on anyone goes about 33% that would be a horrible thing to the economy!  President Obama thought that was a good idea to do that in a time of  recession!  

As President I will make sure every single tax and fee in this country will be either gone or under 33%!!

But then again they prob will already be gone!! *laughs*


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 27, 2018, 09:24:41 AM
Denver, Colorado
8th Republican Presidential Debate

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All Republican candidates are invited to attend

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Debate Questions

1.- What is the greatest threat America faces in the world and how will you tackle it?

2.- The financial recession in 2008 is seen as a major weakness to the Republican Party. How will you prevent another crash?

3.- This question comes from the audience: I own a small gardening business in Kansas. How will you, as President, help my small business?


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 27, 2018, 10:08:56 AM
February, 2012
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Ernie Fletcher's Statement on Rep. Walter Jones & Gov. Chris Christie's Withdrawal

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At a press conference in Nevada:

"I entered this race thinking my main opponents to the nomination would be Mitt Romney and Chris Christie. Now, I don't know if I'll be the next one forced to drop out next. Walter Jones was a friend of mine. 10 years ago, he cosponsored my bill honoring 9/11 Victims on Airline Flight 93. Mitt Romney was a friend of mine too. We were one of 2 Republican governors serving on the Health & Human Services committee at the NGA.

And for Christie, personally, I didn't know Mr. Christie that well before this race. He's shown a very passionate, full- hearted candidacy. We had disagreements. We had agreements. I hope he has a speedy recovery and I hope the people of New Jersey can soon welcome their governor back. I hope North Carolina can welcome their representative back soon, Walter Jones. Truthfully, we had a lot more to agree on than disagree. Let's be glad their situations did not turn out much worse, and look towards the future."


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on February 27, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
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Santorum Debate Answers

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What is the greatest threat America faces in the world and how will you tackle it?

Well, If you ask me, I think we can all agree on one thing: Radical Islamic Terrorism. For too long, President Obama and even President Bush, to an extent, bowed to the demands of there radical terrorists. Think about what happens if we continue to bend the knee to these terrorists. It's tragic, Terror attacks almost every day. I promise 3 things to do about this if I become President:

1. I will hold a temporary ban on all Muslims entering this country. We don't know if someone has intentions for terrorism or where they come from. By holding a temporary ban, we can figure out what the hell is going on and stop terrorism from coming here.

2. I will bring back Big Stick Diplomacy, the policy of Theodore Roosevelt, President from 1901-1909. He was one of only a handful of Presidents I believe made this country strong and powerful. It's time to show these terrorists that we aren't joking around and that if you attack us, we will strike twice as hard at you. No longer can we be a weakling and bow to the demands of Terrorists. Big stick diplomacy is the way!

3. Finally, I will launch an investigation in ways that we can improve our chances to defend against Terrorism. I want us to be 99.999% safe for a terrorist attack. We can never be 100% safe but it's best to be so safe that it'll be damn impossible and near suicide to attack us!

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The financial recession in 2008 is seen as a major weakness to the Republican Party. How will you prevent another crash?

Good Question, I would like to answer this in the most simple way possible. JFK, Bush, Reagan, Wilson, all good presidents and guess what they did. They gave large tax cuts. The bigger the cuts, the more the rich can invest. The more the rich invest, the more jobs our economy gets, the less of a chance we will have another crash. Also, no government involvement, because Government is not the solution to the problem, it is the problem. This was proven when the Great Depression was Prolonged by the Government Interventionism of FDR. Look that up. The economy was on it's way to recovering but FDR ruined it. So here are my big two to prevent another crash: Tax Cuts and No Government intervention.

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This question comes from the audience: I own a small gardening business in Kansas. How will you, as President, help my small business?

Thanks for giving the question. Now, I can't completely help you in your business as I believe in Lazziez Faire and if the market does not want you, then the government won't support you. However, if you are proving to well with the market. We'll give you checks of $10,000 to help you expand and grow your business. I'm giving you this as an incentive to continue to do well as from signing that check, I am giving you the trust of your government. Further more, I won't force you to do anything you won't be able to do or don't want to do. There shall be no government mandate and instead everything will be determined by the market. Thank you again.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 27, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
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Carolla debate answers.

1.What is the greatest threat America faces in the world and how will you tackle it?
North Korea is our biggest threat to us and our allies.  They play dumb but they know exactly what they are doing. Not only are they threatening us they are a threat to our Asian allies such as South Korea and Japan. And they are on a quest for domination of the Pacific.

And they perhaps could not us attack us like litterly they could sneak attack us. They could start cyber warfare with us. Our computers need to be locked and loaded and prepared for something like this cause something tells me that they are they type of people that would do such a thing.

2.The financial recession in 2008 is seen as a major weakness to the Republican Party. How will you prevent another crash?

Well we need to go after Wall Street. All these other politicians I see in DC say they will be tough on Wall Street however they just end up lying because they are controlled by those same people. We saw this with Obama in 2008. And whille I think Occupy Wall Street has gotten out of control I still stand with the message. We need also to abolish the Federal Reserve. It is prob the reason why we are still in this mess. These bankers and firms love chaos they love looking at normal people who have normal lifes and jobs and love to just look at their sad faces that desperately need help and they just laugh at it. They just laugh and laugh until they pass out!!!

Also we spend too many on so many programs.  The more we spend the more the deficit goes up and more the debt goes up too.  As President I will fight for a balence budget amendment to make sure that Washington doesn’t spend more that they can.

3.This question comes from the audience: I own a small gardening business in Kansas. How will you, as President, help my small business?

Well I am pretty sure you have a nice business and you have a nice life going for you.  As President I plan on cutting the corporate tax rate and make sure that Small Businesses pay less and that you make more and create healthy competition between small businesses.

I want to reform our so called free trade aggrements I will try to at least make sure deals like WTO NAFTA and CAFTA are fairer to Amercian businesses and workers and their families.  I am for free trade however we don’t have free trade!! We still have tariffs and restriction trade with countries. Which hurts Americans when it comes to getting cheaper goods with our biggest friends.  So yes I have a good plan for you and your business.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 27, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
Democratic Debate in Detroit Michigan
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Hi im Anderson Cooper and welcome to the CNN Democratic debate live here in Detroit Michigan between Senator Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden.

Give us your opening statements

Question 1:Since Detroit is the called the Motor City for a reason and is still in other ways a town full of industries. However in 2008 this town crashed and so did the Industries with it.  Now President Obama however in 2009 was able to saved the industry from total collapse with his bailouts. However still not all the problems are gone. As President how do you plan on making Detroit and perhaps the  the thriving town it once was?

Question 2:Some people and candidates have talked about trade reform such as what is the future of NAFTA,CAFTA and WTO which even here some people have considered that these deals have ruined places like Detroit and working class families?  What would you do to make sure to make Amercia the best place to trade with?

3.To both candidates. Both of you have been in the senate for a while. Mr Biden of course was a veteran. If you were elected in December how would you work with a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate?

4.Since Russ Feingold exit progressives are struggling to find a candidate in this election. Senator Clinton and Vice President Biden tell us why you are the best candidate for progressives to support?

5.To Senator Clinton. People have noticed your opinions on topics like gay marriage, NAFTA and Wall Street have changed since your days in the White House. People have called them flip flops. Can you please explain what happened and why you changed them?

6.To Vice President Biden. While Obama is still a popular president in a way he stills to some has been seen as a letdown. If elected will you try to carry on where Obama succeeded and try to finish what he started or would you act like a different person and president?

Closing statements


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 27, 2018, 03:52:43 PM
Hillary Clinton Debate
February 2012 Debate

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Q1: Since Detroit is the called the Motor City for a reason and is still in other ways a town full of industries. However in 2008 this town crashed and so did the Industries with it.  Now President Obama however in 2009 was able to saved the industry from total collapse with his bailouts. However still not all the problems are gone. As President how do you plan on making Detroit and perhaps the  the thriving town it once was?


Clinton: Detroit has always been a haven for industry and innovation. A lot of that comes from the can-do spirit of the great people of this city. When the auto industry went sour in 2008, a lot of people were hurt by it. Now, the President can't have a magic wand and make the jobs come back. That just can't happen. But what we can do, and what I'll do as President, is push for employee re-education programs to help former auto industry employees, and other Americans left behind in the Obama Recovery, transition into the new, post-recession economy. I will also present Congress with an ambitious plan to invest in small businesses and local communities, and help adult learners go to two- or four-year higher education programs. It's from the ground up that we will get Americans back on their feet and back on work.

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Q2: Some people and candidates have talked about trade reform such as what is the future of NAFTA, CAFTA and WTO which even here some people have considered that these deals have ruined places like Detroit and working class families?  What would you do to make sure to make Amercia the best place to trade with?

Clinton: We've discussed this question in the primary before, but I'm always glad to present my vision for this country at every opportunity. I've been working for free and fair trade since I entered public service. America must be the leading member of the global economic community. I think this is an unequivocal position, something any economist worth their degree will tell you that free trade is good for consumers. It brings low-cost products into the market, increases competition for products, and allows each country to find what they excel at and do it well. As President, I would work with our friends in Asia and in Europe to develop new and strong trade agreements that benefit Americans, as consumers and employees. Is every free trade agreement we're currently in perfect? No. And as President I will work to fix some of the flaws in our free trade system to make it more free, more fair, and more honest. This means working towards trade deals that give workers across the globe equal treatment and a livable wage, for humanitarian purposes and also to put American workers on equal footing with their foreign counterparts.

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Q3: Both of you have been in the senate for a while. Mr Biden of course was a veteran. If you were elected in December how would you work with a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate?

Clinton: I've been in the Senate for the last 12 years. A lot of that time has been under a Republican Majority. Despite that, I've been on the front lines of crafting policy and shaping the national discussion. As President, I will work with a possible Republican Congress in the same way I've worked with Republicans in the Senate - by proposing strong, bipartisan ideas that work for the American people. It's important for people in Washington to remember that that's the reason we're in office: to work for the American people and create a better country to live in. That will always be my approach when working with Congress, regardless of which party has the majority.

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Q4: Since Russ Feingold exit progressives are struggling to find a candidate in this election. Senator Clinton and Vice President Biden tell us why you are the best candidate for progressives to support?

Clinton: Again, this is something we've talked about a lot during this campaign. I refuse to pander my campaign to any interest group or specific segment of the electorate. I'm running, and I've run, a campaign based on presenting a clear, bold vision for the United States of America. For a lot of my career, I was labelled as a liberal, which would be progressive by today's standards. I've also been called a moderate or a centrist. I've never been able to be pegged into a specific ideological stance and I think my campaign has proven that. If progressive Democrats want a candidate who can win the primary, who can win in November, and who has the strongest plan for our country's future, they should vote for me. Any Democrat, any Republican, any American who wants a clear vision for American should vote fore me.

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Candidate Question: People have noticed your opinions on topics like gay marriage, NAFTA and Wall Street have changed since your days in the White House. People have called them flip flops. Can you please explain what happened and why you changed them?

Clinton: Anyone with a career in the public eye as long as mine will undoubtedly have evolved in their positions over the course of their time. While some of my specific policies may have changed over the decades, the guiding principles that have always led my career have remained the same. Every day, I get up and ask "What can I do today to make American a better place to live?". That's how I've tried to direct my choices and positions during my time in public service. My goal has always been to move America forward. What policies that takes shape in, I guess, can change as time goes on.

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Closing Statement

Clinton: This now the fifth or sixth time, I think, that I've been able to speak to the American people directly from a debate stage during this campaign. I want to thank you all for inviting myself and Vice President Biden, and the various other candidates, into your homes and your living rooms. I hope that over the course of these several debates that we've been able to present the clear differences between myself and the Vice President, in personality, temperament, and substantive policy. I hope that you've been able to take the time to think about which candidate will better represent the Democratic Party and the United States of America, and which candidate can win the election in November. I want to thank you all for taking part in our democracy and for taking the steps to be involved and knowledgeable about the issues and candidates in this race. I hope we'll be able to talk again soon.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 27, 2018, 04:07:52 PM
Hillary Clinton Surrogate Schedule
February 1 to February 7, 2012

Senator Jeanne Shaheen rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Senator Bill Nelson rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Arizona.

Mayor Tom Menino rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Governor Andrew Cuomo rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Senator Mark Warner rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Missouri.

Senator Dianne Feinstein rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Arizona.

Governor John Hickenlooper rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Arizona.

Senator Debbie Stabenow rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Senator Tom Harkin rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Minnesota.

Congressman Dave Loebsack rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Minnesota.

Governor Brian Schweitzer rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Minnesota.

Governor Dannel Malloy rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Former Senator Bob Graham leads Clinton Campaign national fundraising efforts.

Former Florida CFO Alex Sink leads GOTV operations in Minnesota.

Former Maine Governor John Baldacci rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Maine Congresswoman Chellie Pingree rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Maine.

Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm rallies Clinton Campaign volunteers in Michigan.

Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle leads GOTV operations in Missouri.

Former Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell leads Clinton Campaign fundraising efforts on the East Coast.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 27, 2018, 04:10:36 PM
Biden Debate Answers (minus responses to Senator Clinton)

Let's get to the bare bones. I need the help to win the nomination, and our party needs a nominee who is not hated by every single Republican in the country, who has so-called scandals a mile high, and who can fight for progressive values without being demonized by the opposition. That would be me, not Senator Clinton.

1. Detroit's problem's are twofold. One is of course, the slump in auto sales, which I intend to fix by creating incentives for U.S Auto manufacturers to build here, and to improve their products, and the other is the city's declining population, inability of property owners to pay their tax bills, and the corruption of former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, which led to a multiple count indictment, and Detroit being the laughingstock of Michigan for the past few years. To fix that, we need a strong Housing and Urban Development Department, and most importantly, a competent Mayor and City Council in Detroit. With those things, Detroit can begin to recover from the doldrums it is in.


2. Some of these trade deals have worked in some fashion, like NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO. However not everyone in all countries covered by these deals have benefited from these trade deals. As President, I will seek to renegotiate these deals to be more even for all parties involved.

3. Hopefully there won't be a Republican majority in either house...especially the Senate, where we have the majority, if I'm not mistaken. However, if there is one, I feel I am better suited to work with one, because I am not hated by almost every Republican like Senator Clinton is.

4. I have endorsements from Senator Feingold, Senator Brown, Governor Brown and Senator Sanders all of whom are progressive heroes, and people are saying I'm having trouble consolidating the progressive vote? I don't get it. Senator Clinton isn't progressive at all, she's a mistress of triangulation.

5. I'm definitely an admirer of President Obama's "hope and change" campaign in 2008, and his stimulus package when trying to save our economy back in 2009. However, I'm my own person, and that means as President, I'll be putting a slightly different spin on the job.

It's been honor to once again be on the debate stage, and I have to thank Senator Clinton for bothering to show up. It was soo lonely last time... Thanks as well to everyone who tuned in, and I hope to win in Minnesota, Missouri, Maine, Michigan, and maybe even Arizona.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 27, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
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Michele Bachmann's Debate Answers

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1.- What is the greatest threat America faces in the world and how will you tackle it?

Bachmann-"America has many presents and real threats today whether it be economic or foreign but the number one threat I see this great nation facing is the middle east.

In December, President Obama pulled the rest of the troops out of Iraq leaving that nation without a working government and has lead to the rise of new terrorist groups. This destabilized middle east has lead to a soar in gas prices and working Americans across this country can barely afford the gas for their car every morning.

That is why I am going to fight every day against the new threats, that is why I am going to raise how much we spend per year on our military to keep America safe and keep the rights, granted by God for the people of America, safe."

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2.- The financial recession in 2008 is seen as a major weakness to the Republican Party. How will you prevent another crash?

Bachmann-"My heart broke when I saw millions of Americans losing their jobs. Now, We are on a slow recovery path but as president, through cut business tax and deregulation we are going to allow every single one of those people who lost their job in 2008 get it back.

On the issue of preventing another crash, my administration will cut government back so business don't rely on the government. This will allow business to make their own chooses and when they see there sales projection down they can fix it without government interference.

The truth is that business knows better than the government about how to fix their own company. That is why I am going to get government out and allow business to control their own decisions."

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3.- This question comes from the audience: I own a small gardening business in Kansas. How will you, as President, help my small business?

Bachmann-"President Obama has been one of the worse presidents ever for small business. During already one of the hardest times for a startup small business, President Obama decided it was a good time to sign new executive orders making more job-killing regulations.

As president, I am going to repeal every single one of the disastrous anti-business regulations put in place by the Obama administration. I will also get rid of one of the stupidest taxes ever, the self-employment tax which has hurt thousands of business across this country.

When I am president there will not be an 80% business failure rate within the first year of business, I promise you that. The Bachmann administration will help small business and we will not kill them through more taxes and more regulation.

We are going to cut taxes, create jobs and deregulate and then finally small business can flourish without the government on their backs."



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: DKrol on February 27, 2018, 04:17:41 PM
Hillary Clinton Ad #5
In His Own Words, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #6
Why Are You Running?, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #9
A Seat for Everyone at the Table, Airing Nationwide

Hillary Clinton Ad #10
In Their Own Words, Airing Nationwide


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 27, 2018, 04:39:27 PM
Michele Bachmann's Second Campaign Advertisment Buy: "Safety"
Bought in Minnestota, Colorado, Maine, Washington, Ohio and Wyoming

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Narrator-"It is one of the most dangerous times in America, with facing threats from Terrorist Groups, North Korea, China, Russia and the list goes on."

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Narrator-"Our military has kept us safe from attacks like what happened just eleven years ago on 9/11."

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Narrator-"But now Ron Paul wants to reduce the military budget which will not only hurt the defense of the United States but also cut millions of soldiers salaries."

Narrator-"This is a dangerous plan in these times as so many countries are threating our great nation."

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Narrator-"We need a real leader in the White House ready to face any threat toward America, that leader is Michele Bachmann"

Bachmann-"I plan on spending more on our military so our brave men and women overseas can get a decent salary and so we can keep the Americans within this great nation safe and protect."

Narrator-"Vote for Michele Bachmann for president to keep you and your children safe."

I'm Michele Bachmann and I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 27, 2018, 07:38:15 PM
"Real Hope"
Ernie Fletcher's 10th Television Ad
Aired in Nevada, Maine, Arizona, Michigan, and Minnesota


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"Three years ago, America was promised hope."



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"On this day, we have gathered here because we have chosen hope"




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-scene shifts through various inner city poverty lines-

"Unfortunately, that promise was unfulfilled."

"Today, we suffer from a stagnant economy with unemployment above 9%"

"With a healthcare system that penalizes people who cannot afford it"

"An administration that focuses on political games rather than economic recovery"

"And more people in poverty than ever before"

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"Eight years ago, the people of Kentucky were promised hope."



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"We will restore hope!"



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-scene shifts through Governor Fletcher with Kentuckians-

"And that promised was fulfilled."

"Hundreds of thousands of poor Kentuckians no longer had to pay state taxes"

"And Kentucky saw it's first comprehensive energy policy ever, creating 3,000 coal jobs after decades of decline while supporting renewable energy"



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"Kentucky saw it's first education spending increase after years of flat education spending"

"As well as it's first budget surplus in many, many years"

"And more Kentuckians employed than ever before."



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-scene shifts to a Fletcher Presidential Campaign Rally-

Fletcher: "Let's deliver real change and real hope! And let's do it now!"

-cheering-

"Ernie Fletcher for President"


I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on February 28, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
"Electable"
Ernie Fletcher's 11th Television Ad
Aired in Nevada, Washington, Arizona, Michigan, Missouri, and Colorado

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"The establishment called Reagan unelectable. They said he would leave the Republican Party to certain defeat."




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"Of course, we all know how that turned out."




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Reporter: "After rising in polls, Ernie Fletcher is being accused of being unelectable, particularly by establishment figures."


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"Doesn't that sound familiar?"

"If Fletcher is the front runner for the nomination with a record of delivering tax relief, improving education, creating budget surpluses, and Kentucky's first comprehensive energy policy as Governor, then I surely hope he's as 'unelectable' as Reagan"



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I'm Ernie Fletcher & I approve this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on February 28, 2018, 10:13:56 AM
Santorum Ad #1: "False Land of Milk and Honey" Attack ad on Adam Carolla to air in Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Alabama

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Mr. Adam Carolla, the celebrity Candidate

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The Thing you had most going for you was your podcast, that you left to run for President

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Even if you do become President, do you think Congress will listen to a ex-celebrity?

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No, we need someone with actual experience with Congress

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During his time as Senator, Santorum was able to get things done and learn the ins and outs of Washington's swamp

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So answer this question America: Would you choose someone who preaches a land of milk and honey but has no idea with those who control such things

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Or someone who knows how to deal with the controllers of Milk and Honey and get everything in place?

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I'm Rick Santorum and I endorse this message


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 28, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Carolla responds to Rick Santorum in Tacoma Washington
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So Mr Santorum decided to make a ad attacking me and slandering me as someone who can’t do the job done!!
*Crowd boos*
Well Rick the great President Reagan and Eisenhower weren’t career politicians and they still ended up winning big in their own  elections!   And Rick I am just as Amercian as you are. I vote I have the same rights as you, I pay taxes and bills  I have a wife and kids just like you! This isn’t a joke this time I am not trying to be funny this time!!!

So what makes you think I cant go out and do what I have been doing almost the past year whille you can?

I’m not the same guy you saw on The Man Show or the same guy who voiced Spanky Ham on Drawn Together! So obviously you don’t separate from acting and being a actual person!

I don’t know about you but I am running to President not running to slander fellow opponents.

*Crowd cheers*



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: NewYorkExpress on February 28, 2018, 05:07:21 PM
Schedule for Joe Biden

February 1, 2012

Meet Voters in Ladue, Missouri

Speech in Jennings, Missouri
Republicans are so eager to take on Hillary Clinton, that they've already started rehashing old conspiracy theories. I heard Rush Limbaugh was diving back into the whole Vince Foster imbroglio yesterday...Now I believe that Hillary is innocent of murder in this scenario, but the way Limbaugh was presenting it, he made it seem like Hillary was standing in the room and pulled the trigger, which is something she'd never do, at least not the Hillary Clinton I know. However, there was a coverup afterwards, and I have no doubt that one or both Clinton's were responsible for that.

Meet Voters in Pine Lawn, Missouri

Meet Voters in Woodson Terrace, Missouri

Speech in Ferguson, Missouri
You know, there's something fishy about Senator Clinton deciding to primary the first black President, after losing to him in 2008... it may just be sour grapes, but I sense something more sinister in her repeated challenge to President Obama, and ultimately driving him from the race.

Meet Voters in Calverton Park, Missouri

February 2, 2012

Meet Voters in Buckner, Missouri

Speech in Grandview, Missouri
So, Mr. Man-on-Dog entered the race this past week. Of course, I could only be talking about Senator Rick Santorum. By the way, did you see him at the Republican debate yesterday, calling for a ban on Muslim immigrants entering the country? That's an idea only a demented mind could dream up, Senator, and it makes think that you are planning to take us on a Crusade to conquer the Muslim world should you be elected. For your sake, I hope you don't succeed in securing the Republican nomination.

Meet Voters in Lone Jack, Missouri

Meet Voters in Sugar Creek, Missouri

Speech in Raytown, Missouri
The fact is General Clark, is only in this race to harm the Democratic nominee, whoever that may be. Clearly he didn't get over not being nominated in 2004...

February 3, 2012

Meet Voters in Buhl, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Meet Voters in Minnetrista, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Meet Voters in Deephaven, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

February 4, 2012

Meet Voters in Medina, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Meet Voters in Woodland, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Debate (???) Detroit, Michigan

Meet Voters in Gibralter, Michigan (With Carl Levin)

February 5, 2012

Attend Cabinet meeting, Washington D.C

February 6, 2012

Meet Voters in North Oaks, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Meet Voters in Gem Lake, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

Meet Voters in Little Canada, Minnesota (With Al Franken)

February 7, 2012

GOTV in Minnesota and Missouri

Election night rally at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome, Minneapolis, Minnesota.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on February 28, 2018, 08:45:49 PM
Bachmann Campaign's Minnestota, Colordao and Missouri GOTV Strategy

With Nevada and Maine certain wins for Ron Paul, Bachmann campaign toned down expectations and put all effort in Minnesota, Missouri, and Colorado.

Bachmann's Minnestota Campaign GOTV Strategy

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To the Bachmann campaign, Bachmann needs a win in Minnesota to build momentum leading up to Super Tuesday. With the endorsement of popular former Governor Tim Pawlenty and the momentum, she got from her announcements she believes she can win in Minnesota. The plan to win is to win over Tea-Party supporters from Fletcher with her conservative agenda and pull away supporters from Paul with her ad "Saftey" which targeted Paul's liberal military view. Bachmann's goal is to bring out support from Saint Cloud and the Twin Cities which are both inside of her congressional district. This will be the first win for Bachmann and it will help prove that Bachmann has the tea party support.

Bachmann's Missouri Campaign GOTV Strategy

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Missouri is Solid for Fletcher but the fight for Bachmann is for second place. Second is necessary though it gives no delegates it does give momentum which Bachmann will need if Bachmann wants to get second in Michigan. To be able to earn second place, the Bachmann volunteers will target the most conservative cities in Missouri like Dexter and Branson focusing on issues of cutting taxes. If Bachmann over performs which would be over 15% she would use the momentum to start to campaign in Michigan and Super Tuesday states.

Bachmann's Colorado Campaign GOTV Strategy

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Colorado like Missouri is Solid for Fletcher but Bachmann is putting effort into Colorado to start gaining delegates. Bachmann in Colorado will focus on cutting government back and try to bring out voters in Aspen, Colorado and other rural areas. The ultimate goal for the Bachmann Colorado campaign is to at least earn a delegate.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on February 28, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
What Carolla did

Carolla got his wife to campaign for him later in Nevada and Washington whille start to expand his campaign into Colorado and Minnesota in which he promised as President in his first week he would legalize marijuana everywhere.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: adamevans on March 01, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
8th Republican Presidential Debate
Ernie Fletcher
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Debate Answers & Responses


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1.- What is the greatest threat America faces in the world and how will you tackle it?

Well, I think the greatest threats we face abroad are the ones that hit right at home. Right now, we have soaring gas prices. 2011 saw the biggest price for a gallon in decades. One gallon costed more than $3.50 on average last year. That is ludicrous. We rely far too much on overseas oil. It means overseas oil companies can raise prices on us when people go out for vacations in the Spring & Summer. Any reasonable analysis of oil reserves in the U.S can show that we can perform energy independence, and perhaps become the world's biggest producer of energy.

It's not like we haven't tackled this problem before in Kentucky when I was Governor. By the end of my term, we had around $1.00 lower in gas prices compared to the national average. Our campaign is the only one who shows real experience to deal with our rising gas prices. Now, we must utilize our nation's resources if we strive to be prosperous in the world. From renewable to coal to oil, we have one shot at bringing our gas prices back down after they have rising.

We will achieve at least $2.50 p/ gallon, and we will never bow down to another Arabian king. Of course, there are many other priorities for my policy abroad. Killing Osama Bin Laden is a priority. Adjustments to NAFTA and the TPP is another priority. But when Americans wake up to paying $3.50 a gallon every day to work, something must be done about that.

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2.- The financial recession in 2008 is seen as a major weakness to the Republican Party. How will you prevent another crash?

I don't see it as the fault of the Republican Party. I don't think tax cuts caused the recession. When the housing bubble popped, that's what caused the recession. After President Barack's policies have not fixed this recession, I think it's time for a new approach to fixing our economy. We have only continued to see record breaking poverty, record breaking gas prices, and record breaking debt.

We will prevent another crash when we stop providing government support with real estate. As we saw in 2008, the housing bubble popped and millions of jobs were lost among other things. This recession doesn't have to be a weakness because Republican ideals are not the reason the market crashed.

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3.- This question comes from the audience: I own a small gardening business in Kansas. How will you, as President, help my small business?

Well, when I pass my tax modernization plan, everyone will get more money back in the end, especially businesses. The tax system we have right now has proved itself to stifle key economic recovery that people like you need. On top of that, right now, we have the biggest corporate tax in the industrialized world, significantly above the world average. It drives jobs, profits, and tax revenues overseas. That's why I'll cut the corporate tax rate to 20% to keep those profits here for your business. 

I've been able to cut taxes as Representative and Governor. I never voted against a tax cut and I never voted for a tax increase. Our campaign is the only one with governing experience in cutting middle class taxes. I think it's time we end the games of he said and she said and actually get down to cutting taxes for businesses like your own.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: terp40hitch on March 01, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
Bachmann's Reponse to Ron Paul's attacks of "Saftey"

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Ron Paul is a good friend but his view of the military are not the views of the Republican Party or the Tea-Party. Paul believes the only thing that will save our debt is cutting our defense and cutting our brave men and women fighting for our freedom's salaries. The truth is we don't need to sacrifice our defense to balance our debt.

As president, I am going to cut taxes, cut government and cut spending but I won't do it by sacrificing our freedom. I am going to cut programs such as social security, healthcare and more government programs that have wasted massive amounts of our hard working Americans money.

Ron Paul may call himself a Tea-Party Republican but that is far from the truth, he doesn't stand for the Republican party values. We need a true tea-party conservative who will cut taxes, shrink government and keep our nation safe in the white house next November. Vote for me and I am going keep the children of our nation safe and I am going let the parents keep more of their hard-earned money.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Jaguar4life on March 01, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
Carolla Q&A in Minneapolis Minnesota
Question 1:I see that you are different than other Republicans in this race. Tell me what are they and why that isn’t a problem.
Carolla:Well I have said I will go hard on Wall Street. Whille I do believe in free enterprise and the free market I do believe that there should be a revised version of Glass Steagall. Now im not saying it will be like the old one but I do think Wall Street shouldn’t  And the big banks and businesses shouldnt get special privileges or tax breaks whille the lower income people suffer and whille the upper income people  gain the system. 
And people need to know is that these corporations get greedy and get powerful because of the government. There is goverment involvement within these big corporations.

Question 2:How will you deal with Planned Parenthood?

I said it before and say it again the goverment and the tax payer should not pay for abortions if they don’t want to. I believe that it’s their personal choice on what they want to have and that they shouldn’t force someone else to pay it.

We will save a bunch of money if we cut funding to planned parenthood in not just Washington but your tax dollars.

Question 3:I have seen people on this side saying that they will balence the budget however they seem to go overboard on Milltary spending how will you deal with that?

Well I will not cut Milltary Spending as President however I won’t do overboard on it you know.  We shouldn’t  invest 100$ trillion dollars on something we are only going to use if we get into like this major conflict with someone like China or Russia which I think will start World War III. Whille I am for a strong and safe military I am also for a strong and safe budget for this country.



Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on March 02, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
Debate Winner:

GOP:

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With only Brown and Paul not attending (Senator Brown's campaign having a slow start), Fletcher, Carolla and new challengers Santorum and Bachmann contested the debate before a string of important caucuses, and it was by most accounts a relatively balanced one in terms of performances. At the start of the debate it seemed as if Senator Santorum was about to have a good night, until unconvincing responses on the economy (particularly one that made him look aloof and uncaring) sank his performance to fourth place. Adam Carolla suffered from a similar case, having started weak and hurting himself by offering some support for Occupy Wall Street, and then recovering to place himself third.

This left Fletcher and Bachmann in a narrow fight for the first place, and while Governor Fletcher has shown particular skill in expanding his base, an attempt to pivot a foreign policy question to domestic territory was seen as a mistake, particularly as most GOP voters do not know yet what Fletcher's foreign policy vision is. As a result, and despite some questionable statements made, it was Representative Michelle Bachmann who was seen to have the most effective performance in terms of appealing to hrer base, aiding her efforts to surge as a grassroots, Tea Party candidate.

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For the first time in some weeks, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden took the stage to debate before two important primaries, and the debate was widely judged to be one of the best ones so far (although many have judged most Democratic debates thus far as disappointing). Both Clinton and Biden addressed a variety of subjects and policy areas crucial to their own voting bases and to appeal to more voters, and in that task both showed some skill in bringing new voters on board. The two fundamental issues that made the difference is that many voters were unconvinced by Biden's claims that he was a better candidate by virtue of being "less hated", and that Senator Clinton appeared to possess a better grasp of detail and policy which made her look more Presidential. As a result, and despite a stronger showing by the Vice-President, it was Senator Hillary Clinton who was judged the victor.


Title: Re: Forward? – A 2012 Election Game (Gameplay Thread)
Post by: Lumine on March 02, 2018, 06:08:22 PM
Primary Results:

"Following a debate victory and a continued supremacy in the airwaves, which Vice-President Biden has been unable to counter, we can predict a strong victory for Hillary Clinton in Missouri. Minnesota appears to have gone for Biden due to his own local campaign efforts, but with a weaker margin of victory than expected:"

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Democratic Minnesota Caucus:

Joe Biden: 52.31% (47)
Hillary Clinton: 47.69% (44)

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Democratic Missouri Primary:

Hillary Clinton: 56.55% (44)
Joe Biden: 43.45% (33)
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Democratic Primary:

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Delegates:

Hillary Clinton: 339
Joe Biden: 280

Superdelegates:
(Not included in the delegate count above)

Hillary Clinton: 51
Joe Biden: 35
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"The Republicans, in the meantime, feature two victories for Ernie Fletcher and Ron Paul each, as both win the caucuses and primaries they were predicted to a week ago. However, Rick Santorum has performed strongly in Missouri, and Michele Bachmann not only secured a strong, very helpful win in her homestate of Minnesota, but saw significant gains across the board and particularly in Colorado and Missouri:

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Republican Missouri Primary:

Ernie Fletcher: 38.73%
Michele Bachmann: 22.06%
Rick Santorum: 18.51%
Ron Paul: 8.53%
Adam Carolla: 7.20%
Scott Brown: 4.97%

Republican Colorado Caucus:

Ernie Fletcher: 35.53% (21)
Michele Bachmann: 21.70% (7)
Ron Paul: 14.33% (4)
Adam Carolla: 13.77% (4)
Rick Santorum: 5.46%
Scott Brown: 9.21%

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Republican Nevada Caucus:

Ron Paul: 34.81% (11)
Adam Carolla: 24.89% (6)
Ernie Fletcher: 24.66% (6)
Michele Bachmann: 6.44% (2)
Rick Santorum: 5.17% (2)
Scott Brown: 4.03% (1)

Republican Maine Caucus:

Ron Paul: 30.88% (9)
Adam Carolla: 21.31% (6)
Ernie Fletcher: 20.40% (5)
Scott Brown: 16.04% (3)
Michele Bachmann: 8.23% (1)
Rick Santorum: 3.14%

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Republican Minnesota Caucus:

Michele Bachmann: 38.82% (24)
Ernie Fletcher: 22.95% (7)
Ron Paul: 20.05% (6)
Adam Carolla: 10.21% (3)
Scott Brown: 4.30%
Rick Santorum: 3.67%

Republican Primary:

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Delegates:

Ernie Fletcher: 120
Ron Paul: 39
Michele Bachmann: 34
Uncommitted: 24
Adam Carolla: 20
Scott Brown: 4
Rick Santorum: 2