Title: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: RBH on September 16, 2005, 06:11:21 PM Ford in Blue
Reagan in Red () And the Mississippi result was due to Reagan picking Richard Schweiker as his VP candidate. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: Joe Republic on September 16, 2005, 06:50:48 PM Interesting, but I wonder why Schweiker (of Pennsylvania) caused Mississippi to go for Ford instead of Reagan?
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: dazzleman on September 16, 2005, 07:57:12 PM Interesting, but I wonder why Schweiker (of Pennsylvania) caused Mississippi to go for Ford instead of Reagan? I can't remember the details, but it some type of backroom political deal made at the convention. President Ford described it in his memoirs, which I read years ago and no longer have, otherwise I would look it up. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: RBH on September 16, 2005, 08:02:28 PM Schweiker was a liberal Republican from Pennsylvania, and Reagan picking him alienated Conservatives, who in a well-thought-out scheme decided to switch to Ford at the convention
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: 12th Doctor on September 16, 2005, 08:22:13 PM Mass and Michigan were less pro Frod than Ohio and PA?
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: RBH on September 16, 2005, 08:47:14 PM MA: 28-15 Ford
MI: 55-29 Ford OH: 91-6 Ford PA: 93-10 Ford Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: The Dowager Mod on September 16, 2005, 10:32:30 PM The head of the Mississippi delegation clarke Reed had promised to deliver for Reagan but switched at the last moment because of a convention rule called 16-C which allowed Reagan to pick Schweiker.
Dick Cheney had a role in it too. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: nclib on September 16, 2005, 10:49:51 PM Ford in Blue Reagan in Red () Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: J. J. on September 17, 2005, 01:35:46 AM Ford in Blue Reagan in Red () Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election. Huh? Well, except for CA, WA, ND, KS, MS, FL, IA, OH, WV, and KY, yes. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: minionofmidas on September 17, 2005, 03:06:06 AM Ford won the NE at the convention...but the West in the General. :)
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: dazzleman on September 17, 2005, 06:16:33 AM Ford in Blue Reagan in Red () Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election. True, in a way. Ford was stronger in areas where Republicans are weaker. It was a sign that he had problems with the Republican base, which Reagan exploited in his challenge to Ford for the nomination. These problems with the base hurt him in the general election, especially since Carter passed himself off as a moderate, and some disgruntled Republicans viewed him as an acceptable alternative. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: True Democrat on September 17, 2005, 10:55:18 AM Where did you get this map?
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: Keystone Phil on September 17, 2005, 11:05:38 AM So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee?
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: A18 on September 17, 2005, 11:34:35 AM So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee? What makes you say that? Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: Keystone Phil on September 17, 2005, 11:37:23 AM So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee? What makes you say that? I remember seeing a special by Chris Matthews saying something about that and I guess since that Mississippi was noted here it determined the outcome. Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: Joe Republic on September 17, 2005, 11:44:15 AM I'm not sure how many votes the Mississippi delegation had, but Ford's margin of victory was only 117 votes. Perhaps if Reagan had picked a more mainstream running mate instead of the liberal Schweiker, he probably could have pulled it off. Schweiker didn't help him at all in the Northeast anyway, which is the only place where he would have helped.
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: CARLHAYDEN on September 17, 2005, 12:09:39 PM Here's a site which provides a lot of details.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=6661 Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: CARLHAYDEN on September 17, 2005, 12:44:33 PM Another point:
Of the states where Reagan received a majority of the delegate vote, in all except Washington he did better (as a percentage of the vote) against Carter in 1980 that Furd did in 1976. On the other hand, of the states where Furd received a majority of the delegates, in a majority of the states Reagan did better (as a percentage of the vote) against Carter in 1980 than Ford did in 1976. Here is a comparison: Ford Reagan Alaska Delaware Connecticut Florida District of Columbia Iowa Hawaii Kansas Illinois Kentucky Maine Massachusetts Maryland Minnesota Michigan Mississippi New York New Jersey Oregon New Hampshire Rhode Island North Dakota Vermont Ohio Pennsylvania West Virginia Wisconsin Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: memphis on October 24, 2005, 11:20:24 AM Anybody feel like producing results from a 1976 Reagan/Carter election? How would the South have voted?
Title: Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates Post by: skybridge on October 24, 2005, 02:54:48 PM Anybody feel like producing results from a 1976 Reagan/Carter election? How would the South have voted? They have a history of supporting horrible choices, except for Clinton maybe. |