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Title: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Passed)
Post by: Lumine on March 11, 2018, 05:12:40 PM
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Election Day Holiday Designation Act:

1. Every Federal Election in Atlasia is to be recognized as a Federal Holiday.
2. Every Regional Election is to be recognized as a regional holiday.

Sponsor: Senator Haslam.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: _ on March 11, 2018, 05:27:28 PM
This Bill will make sure that every Citizen of Atlasia has the opportunity to Vote on Election Days, regardless of Region.  I will be happily supporting this Bill.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on March 11, 2018, 06:09:53 PM
This will help to ensure everyone gets a chance to vote and as someone who believes everyone should have the chance to vote, this is a good bill.

I will gladly support this.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 13, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
Sponsor, any words?


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 14, 2018, 10:17:25 AM
Right, while Haslam shows up I'll express a concern of mine. Do we really need this? Don't get me wrong, the idea of making it easier for people to vote is a laudable one, but it's not like elections are simulated in Atlasia with a voting public of millions, it's just the players themselves that vote.

Then we have to account for the fact that a Federal Holiday or a regional one has an economic cost in terms of money (possibly hundreds of millions depending on the estimate) and productivity. And this would mean at least six days a year in federal terms, and a few more when it comes to the regions.

Long story short, I can't help but to think this the unintended consequence of this will be economic self-harm without there being an actual necessity for this (for it doesn't have a practical effect on players).


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on March 14, 2018, 12:03:19 PM
I support the idea, but I am concerned with the federal government determining when Regional holidays are. (That being said, Id be fine introducing a bill in the southern chamber making it a holiday).


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 17, 2018, 09:59:20 PM
Still waiting on Haslam here to provide some extra context. As it stands and because of my unanswered economic concern, I don't think I can vote for this.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 24, 2018, 02:11:50 PM
Where do we stand from this? I'd really like to hear from the sponsor, otherwise I may consider a motion to table this particular bill.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 29, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
I haven't heard from the sponsor in 18 days, so I file a motion to table. Do I have a seconder?

(If Halsam does explain his bill I'll withdraw the motion, but I feel it's important that sponsors show up)


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: _ on March 29, 2018, 11:38:41 AM
As with the Wasted Funding act, I'd like to assume sponsorship of the bill if possible, since Haslam appears to be absent, if I can't I oppose the motion to Table.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on March 29, 2018, 12:06:29 PM
For the time being, I withdraw my motion to table.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on March 29, 2018, 07:11:59 PM
Sorry, I should have taken a leave of abscense but stuff is okay now. I think this bill could and should help a lot. If Election Day was a federal holiday, imagine the good it could do for turnout and for our nation. Regional laws would also be good for this, but I think this is a good policy.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Poirot on March 29, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
On the wiki in the statute page, listed under the 5th Congress there is F.L. 5-9 Federal Electoral Holiday Act.
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Federal_Electoral_Holiday_Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Federal_Electoral_Holiday_Act)

Part of this act does this:
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All dates where Federal Elections are held are hereby established as Federal Holidays. Citizens are hereby granted the right to miss up to 4 (four) hours of a work day in order to vote. Employers shall not infringe upon this right by punishment of legal action taken by individual states or regions.

There is no link on the wiki page to the legislative debate or presidential signature to verify if it was truly passed but I gather if it's on that page it is. 


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on March 31, 2018, 11:20:53 AM
On the wiki in the statute page, listed under the 5th Congress there is F.L. 5-9 Federal Electoral Holiday Act.
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Federal_Electoral_Holiday_Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Federal_Electoral_Holiday_Act)

Part of this act does this:
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All dates where Federal Elections are held are hereby established as Federal Holidays. Citizens are hereby granted the right to miss up to 4 (four) hours of a work day in order to vote. Employers shall not infringe upon this right by punishment of legal action taken by individual states or regions.

There is no link on the wiki page to the legislative debate or presidential signature to verify if it was truly passed but I gather if it's on that page it is. 

That’s rather interesting, I may present a new amendment then.



Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on April 05, 2018, 09:38:40 PM
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Election Day Holiday Designation Act:

1. Every Federal Election in Atlasia is to be recognized as a Federal Holiday.

2. Every Regional Election is to be recognized as a regional holiday.

Does the sponsor accept this amendment as friendly?


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on April 05, 2018, 11:24:25 PM
Sponsor, thoughts on the Amendment?


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on April 08, 2018, 09:11:15 PM
I accept, I approve of this


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on April 08, 2018, 09:55:25 PM
Cool. In 24 hrs if there are no objections to the amendment I will motion for unanimous consent to proceed to a vote.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Pericles on April 08, 2018, 10:20:32 PM
Maybe if the regional holiday is unconstitutional the bill could recommend to regional government to enact a regional holiday.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on April 09, 2018, 05:55:17 PM
Amendment adopted. I'll consider Reactionary's post a motion for a final vote (I realize it's probably a conceptual difference rather than us meaning something different), so there's a few hours left for objections to that.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Debating)
Post by: Lumine on April 11, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Senators, a final vote has started on this bill. Please vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN:

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Election Day Holiday Designation Act:

1. Every Federal Election in Atlasia is to be recognized as a Federal Holiday.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: Lumine on April 11, 2018, 05:31:25 PM
Nay.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: _ on April 11, 2018, 07:34:26 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: Pericles on April 11, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Aye.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on April 12, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder on April 12, 2018, 05:11:35 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: Lumine on April 14, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
This has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.


Title: Re: SB 2018-165: Election Day Holiday Designation Act (Final Vote)
Post by: Lumine on April 15, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
With 4 votes in favor this Bill passes the Atlasian Senate:

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Election Day Holiday Designation Act:

1. Every Federal Election in Atlasia is to be recognized as a Federal Holiday.

People's Regional Senate:
Passed 4-1-0 in the Atlasian Senate assembled (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=286928.msg6158105#msg6158105)

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