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Title: Chicago Megathread: With CTU on strike, Lightfoot lays out her budget
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2018, 10:03:14 PM
Former Chicago Police Superintendent McCarthy will challenge his former boss Rahm Emanuel in 2019

https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/ex-top-cop-garry-mccarthy-officially-jumps-into-race-against-mayor-rahm-emanuel/  


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 21, 2018, 10:06:22 PM
Endorsed!!!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 21, 2018, 10:23:28 PM
Will there be anyone non-terrible running?

And btw, who exactly votes for Rahm? Like no one likes him.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: NewYorkExpress on March 21, 2018, 10:44:02 PM
Will there be anyone non-terrible running?

And btw, who exactly votes for Rahm? Like no one likes him.

Maybe Michelle Obama runs?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Dr. MB on March 21, 2018, 10:47:59 PM
Will there be anyone non-terrible running?

And btw, who exactly votes for Rahm? Like no one likes him.

Maybe Michelle Obama runs?
She's the last person who'd run for mayor of Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on March 21, 2018, 10:54:09 PM
Ummmmm..... hopefully someone who doesn't toil in covering up state-sanctioned murders enters soon.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 22, 2018, 07:36:11 AM
Will there be anyone non-terrible running?

And btw, who exactly votes for Rahm? Like no one likes him.

Last time, he won all predominately white areas of the city by large margins and also won pretty much all predominately black areas of the city by smaller margins. We'll see how it plays out this time.

As for a non-terrible, I'd love it if Pawar won, but there haven't been many rumblings. Brudget Gainer is also considering a run, and I would definitely support her. Same with Lori Lightfoot.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 22, 2018, 08:16:58 AM
Pawar, Rosa, Preckwinkle if she wants it, Lewis if she's up to it.

Paul Vallas is also running, but he's firmly in the terrible camp.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on March 22, 2018, 08:39:03 AM
No One Man Should Have All That Pawar.

^^^^

This is 1) a good pun and 2) clearly what Pawar exited the Gov race for


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 24, 2018, 09:16:30 AM
It's on

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-garry-mccarthy-video-20180322-story.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Nhoj on March 24, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
Will there be anyone non-terrible running?

And btw, who exactly votes for Rahm? Like no one likes him.
Machine voters? but i cant see why anyone would support him for a third term.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Pandaguineapig on March 24, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
Chicago democrats always end up voting as they're told, Emanuel will win easily


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on March 24, 2018, 06:43:50 PM
Literally even Obama would lose to Rahm Machineuel.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 24, 2018, 06:47:26 PM
Literally even Obama would lose to Rahm Machineuel.

Rahm isn't even that machine.  City workers were some of his worst people in the last election.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 25, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
McCarthy is, bizarrely, trying to tack left -- promising to reverse school closings by redistributing funding away from the North Side, showing up at the March for Our Lives, talking about creating a more progressive tax structure.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: gottsu on March 29, 2018, 05:13:06 PM
I read a few things about Chicago's political machine - is it still that strong? How it relates to Emanuel as of 2018?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 29, 2018, 10:09:13 PM
I read a few things about Chicago's political machine - is it still that strong? How it relates to Emanuel as of 2018?

No, not at all. The old-school, "don't want nobody that nobody sent" machine died with Washington's victory in the Council Wars back in the mid-80s. There is still an influential Regular Democratic Organization, but it's less united and far less powerful than the old machine.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on March 30, 2018, 02:19:42 AM
I read a few things about Chicago's political machine - is it still that strong? How it relates to Emanuel as of 2018?

No, not at all. The old-school, "don't want nobody that nobody sent" machine died with Washington's victory in the Council Wars back in the mid-80s. There is still an influential Regular Democratic Organization, but it's less united and far less powerful than the old machine.

This is correct. I think that had Emmanuel's last election been held in today's environment he would have not won.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 07, 2018, 01:00:51 PM
McCarthy is, bizarrely, trying to tack left -- promising to reverse school closings by redistributing funding away from the North Side, showing up at the March for Our Lives, talking about creating a more progressive tax structure.

Not that bizarre. Emanuel is well-known for his neolibness in these parts and anyone who will beat him has to run to his left. This can be done even while maintaining an anti-crime platform.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on April 07, 2018, 04:34:32 PM
Vote for McCarthy


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Horus on April 07, 2018, 04:57:06 PM
Given how well the "Chuy List" did in last month's elections, it would be absolutely shameful if the Left fails to put up a viable challenger to Rahmcom and leaves some police hack to swoop up the progressive vote.

Right. I'd vote Rahm over that guy, and Rahm is one of the worst Dems in the country.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Coolface Sock #42069 on April 09, 2018, 10:28:14 PM
McCarthy is, bizarrely, trying to tack left -- promising to reverse school closings by redistributing funding away from the North Side, showing up at the March for Our Lives, talking about creating a more progressive tax structure.
He knows the north side is Rahm's base, but there's enough voters in the rest of the city to overpower them.

What's bizarre is that northsiders (in Illinois, we don't use the term "limousine liberal", instead preferring "lakefront liberal") are easily the most liberal voters in the whole city. The remainder of Chicago doesn't care about having a progressive tax or gun control. I guess they do care about losing all those schools, though.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 14, 2018, 07:29:09 PM
McCarthy is, bizarrely, trying to tack left -- promising to reverse school closings by redistributing funding away from the North Side, showing up at the March for Our Lives, talking about creating a more progressive tax structure.
He knows the north side is Rahm's base, but there's enough voters in the rest of the city to overpower them.

What's bizarre is that northsiders (in Illinois, we don't use the term "limousine liberal", instead preferring "lakefront liberal") are easily the most liberal voters in the whole city. The remainder of Chicago doesn't care about having a progressive tax or gun control. I guess they do care about losing all those schools, though.

The lakefront liberal of today is very different from the lakefront liberal of 30 years ago. When the wallet is threatened, the bleeding hearts begin to clot. I say this as a liberal living on the lakefront and friend to many people like this.

However, this time around, I also don't expect Rahm to see the same level of astronomical success that he saw in the lakefront wards in 2015.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on April 19, 2018, 05:42:04 PM
Cook County Clerk Dorothy Brown is in:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-dorothy-brown-20180419-story.html

She's uh... interesting.  A total trainwreck who has no business being in elected office, and uses the Clerk's office purely to enrich herself and her family/friends.  In other words, she probably has a great shot if she's not behind bars at that point!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on April 19, 2018, 05:45:18 PM
Further literature on the esteemed Clerk.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-dorothy-brown-mayor-election-20180419-story,amp.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 22, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
Cook County Clerk Dorothy Brown is in:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-dorothy-brown-20180419-story.html

She's uh... interesting.  A total trainwreck who has no business being in elected office, and uses the Clerk's office purely to enrich herself and her family/friends.  In other words, she probably has a great shot if she's not behind bars at that point!

I'll vote for pretty much anyone else.

Also, just to clarify, she is the Clerk of the Circuit Court. Orr is the clerk.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on May 07, 2018, 07:31:19 PM
The Jason Van Dyke (Laquan McDonald) trial is tentatively set to begin sometime this summer.  This is setting up to be very bad timing for Rahmbo.  Depending on when it wraps up, there's a good chance it will be fresh in the minds of many people.  Nobody wants to talk about it out loud either, but there's an outside chance that Van Dyke won't be going back to jail (rightly or wrongly).  If that happens, its lights out for Rahm.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on May 07, 2018, 10:06:33 PM
I wonder if that will creat any sort of opening for Black Lives Matter activist Ja'Mal Green.

Probably not; DeRay Mckesson was a thousand times more visible than Green and he got only like 4% in the primary.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 12, 2018, 09:01:01 AM
Chicago Police Board President and Police Accountability Task Force Chair Lori Lightfoot will run for mayor.

http://abc7chicago.com/politics/lori-lightfoot-running-for-chicago-mayor/3454996/

I predict that she will try to re-assemble the Harold Washington coalition of the African-American community and progressive white lakefront neighborhoods, particularly Lakeview, Uptown, and Edgewater, which have large LGBT populations (she is openly gay). Of course, those north side lakefront wards were some of Rahm's best areas last time around (save Lincoln Park and the near north side).  

She has my support initially, though I am interested in hearing more of her specific policy ideas.

This makes the field (bolded candidates that I think have a chance to compete):

Rahm Emanuel (I)
Dorothy Brown

Ja'Mal Green
Troy LaRaviere
Lori Lightfoot
John Kolzar
Garry McCarthy
Neal Sales-Griffin
Paul Vallas
Willie Wilson


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on May 15, 2018, 09:23:16 AM
Disagree that Brown's competitive -- I think a large part of this bid is raising money for legal fees.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on July 09, 2018, 08:11:46 AM
None of these candidates seem that great


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on July 09, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
JaMal or bust.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on July 09, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
None of these candidates seem that great

I think Lightfoot is a pretty great candidate


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on July 09, 2018, 07:40:50 PM
I've done zero research into the race as I live in Cook, not Chicago, but I bet any of these candidates would be better than Rahm.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on July 09, 2018, 09:02:37 PM
I've done zero research into the race as I live in Cook, not Chicago, but I bet any of these candidates would be better than Rahm.
Richard Daley’s corpse would be better than Rahm.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on July 09, 2018, 09:06:18 PM
All these candidates suck. I'm gonna have to vote for Rahm again


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on July 09, 2018, 09:11:32 PM
I've done zero research into the race as I live in Cook, not Chicago, but I bet any of these candidates would be better than Rahm.
Richard Daley’s corpse would be better than Rahm.

At least whatever Daley was behind the scenes actually being Mayor would be more efficient.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on July 10, 2018, 06:49:32 PM
All these candidates suck. I'm gonna have to vote for Rahm again

Lightfoot!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on July 10, 2018, 07:40:45 PM
All these candidates suck. I'm gonna have to vote for Rahm again

Can you just not vote my boi


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on July 10, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
Literally anyone but Rahm.
All these candidates suck. I'm gonna have to vote for Rahm again

Can you just not vote my boi


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 11, 2018, 04:40:17 PM
That's why patrons are pulling a mass exodus out of and into suburbs


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on July 11, 2018, 06:41:06 PM
That's why patrons are pulling a mass exodus out of and into suburbs
there is no shortage of patrón in chicago


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Predictor on July 11, 2018, 06:50:42 PM
Republicans are dead in Illinois. They should just abandon ship and let the state get fixed (focus your resources on hillbilly Iowa or something).


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on July 11, 2018, 08:12:28 PM
That's why patrons are pulling a mass exodus out of and into suburbs
there is no shortage of patrón in chicago

You got that right


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: leonard4liberty on July 12, 2018, 11:01:05 PM
Republicans are dead in Illinois. They should just abandon ship and let the state get fixed (focus your resources on hillbilly Iowa or something).
Well, to be honest, Republicans are dead in C(r)ook, DuPage and possibly Will and McHenry counties.

When you get south of Interstate 80, it's predominantly 70/30 GOP and that's just based on partisan voter registrations. With automatic voter registration having kicked off last week, it's more like 50/35/15 with the majority of those automatic registrations being nonpartisan/independent.

All I can hope for is the death of the two-party system in Illinois.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on July 13, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
Republicans are dead in Illinois. They should just abandon ship and let the state get fixed (focus your resources on hillbilly Iowa or something).
Well, to be honest, Republicans are dead in C(r)ook, DuPage and possibly Will and McHenry counties.

When you get south of Interstate 80, it's predominantly 70/30 GOP and that's just based on partisan voter registrations. With automatic voter registration having kicked off last week, it's more like 50/35/15 with the majority of those automatic registrations being nonpartisan/independent.

All I can hope for is the death of the two-party system in Illinois.

Who cares? You need 2/3 of: urban, suburban, rural in IL. Dems have 2/3 for the foreseeable future, and the GOP might not even be able to hold rural areas like IL-13 and IL-12 this year.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Pandaguineapig on July 13, 2018, 10:18:37 PM
Like I've said, Illinois democrats are zombies and will vote as they're told, Rahm will win


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on July 18, 2018, 11:41:32 PM


Chano for Mayor, y'all.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on July 19, 2018, 07:00:02 PM


Chano for Mayor, y'all.

He's going to do a great job with this. I'll be a regular reader.

Big things going in Chicago over the last 5-10 years. We're no longer the machine city.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on July 19, 2018, 07:12:05 PM
I mean hey maybe Chance the mayor will be better at being in government than he was in the music industry. Could be!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ebsy on July 23, 2018, 01:00:12 AM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on July 23, 2018, 11:49:43 AM
McCarthy actually has a better shot than I originally thought at making the run-off, mostly thanks to how pathetic every other candidate is.  In fact, I would say right now he’s the favorite for the second spot - very exciting!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mike Thick on July 23, 2018, 03:23:30 PM
I mean hey maybe Chance the mayor will be better at being in government than he was in the music industry. Could be!

That's a high bar to clear


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on July 25, 2018, 09:30:32 PM
McCarthy offers support for the #NoCopAcademy movement, what a weird city we live in


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on August 11, 2018, 02:27:59 PM
People's Pat Quinn has filed petition signatures to force a binding referendum on mayoral term limits in Chicago on the November ballot.

It will no doubt face a myriad of legal challenges as the mayor and his allies attempt to save their careers.

I'm not usually big on term limits because I think that if a population wants to keep their rep, they should be able to. In this case, however, I will be a strong YES. Our politicians here are too good at playing the game and it works to our city's detriment.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/pat-quinn-file-85000-signatures-mayoral-term-limits-referendum-1019-mayoral-election-rahm-emanuel/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on August 11, 2018, 02:35:27 PM
People's Pat Quinn has filed petition signatures to force a binding referendum on mayoral term limits in Chicago on the November ballot.

It will no doubt face a myriad of legal challenges as the mayor and his allies attempt to save their careers.

I'm not usually big on term limits because I think that if a population wants to keep their rep, they should be able to. In this case, however, I will be a strong YES. Our politicians here are too good at playing the game and it works to our city's detriment.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/pat-quinn-file-85000-signatures-mayoral-term-limits-referendum-1019-mayoral-election-rahm-emanuel/

There’s a strong argument for executive term limits


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 04, 2018, 06:21:19 PM
Rahm Emanuel will end re-election campaign

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/embattled-chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-seeking-election/story?id=57594619

An interesting race just got that much more interesting.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 04, 2018, 07:23:03 PM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: NewYorkExpress on September 04, 2018, 09:42:34 PM


I'd like to see Michelle Obama run, but that doesn't seem likely.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on September 05, 2018, 02:22:31 AM


I'd like to see Michelle Obama run, but that doesn't seem likely.

Betcha Guiterrez and maybe Daley jump in


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on September 05, 2018, 07:01:37 AM
I wonder how bad Dorothy Brown will get against McCarthy


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 10, 2018, 07:00:16 PM
Preckwinkle has launched an exploratory committee

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-mayors-race-toni-preckiwnkle/

I'd be all over this. She'd be a great mayor.

Quigley is considering a run

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/us-rep-quigley-congress-may-run-mayor-chicago-2019-election-rahm-emanuel/

Orr will not run

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/kurt-summers-mayors-race/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on September 10, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
McCarthy is still leading in polls, there was a poll just released today that showed him leading (look it up).

He has been endorsed by Rudy Giuliani (Due to his 911 service).

He will continue to be the frontrunner if Preckwinkle doesn't run.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 11, 2018, 05:03:07 PM
McCarthy is still leading in polls, there was a poll just released today that showed him leading (look it up).

He will continue to be the frontrunner if Preckwinkle doesn't run.

Extremely impressive to post three sentences and have two of them be flat-out wrong.

Raba Research (MoE ±4)
Gutiérrez: 21%
McCarthy: 18%
Preckwinkle: 16%
Lightfoot: 10%
Vallas: 10%
Summers: 4%


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 12, 2018, 02:11:43 PM

Extremely doubtful, especially since she's down back as CTU head.

Gutierrez is out and has endorsed Chuy. Chuy is not yet officially in, but he met with Gutierrez and Munoz last week, so draw your own conclusions.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on September 12, 2018, 02:13:17 PM

Extremely doubtful, especially since she's down back as CTU head.

Gutierrez is out and has endorsed Chuy. Chuy is not yet officially in, but he met with Gutierrez and Munoz last week, so draw your own conclusions.
So he's running for Congress, but also running for Mayor?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on September 12, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
McCarthy is still leading in polls, there was a poll just released today that showed him leading (look it up).

He will continue to be the frontrunner if Preckwinkle doesn't run.

Extremely impressive to post three sentences and have two of them be flat-out wrong.

Raba Research (MoE ±4)
Gutiérrez: 21%
McCarthy: 18%
Preckwinkle: 16%
Lightfoot: 10%
Vallas: 10%
Summers: 4%

How dare Raba Research not include Dorothy Brown S
S means Sarcasm


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 12, 2018, 04:11:45 PM

Extremely doubtful, especially since she's down back as CTU head.

Gutierrez is out and has endorsed Chuy. Chuy is not yet officially in, but he met with Gutierrez and Munoz last week, so draw your own conclusions.
So he's running for Congress, but also running for Mayor?
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 12, 2018, 11:42:20 PM
Should probably have a conversation about how Van Dyke is gonna get acquitted




Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 13, 2018, 07:15:41 PM
How do we see a McCarthy versus Chuy runoff playing out?

Chuy wins big. I really fail to see where McGarthy's base is outside of Mt Greenwood and the far northwest side.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on September 13, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
Hopefully Luis will run


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 13, 2018, 09:24:30 PM

He will not. Literally seven posts up.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 14, 2018, 10:17:37 AM
Daley is IN, lmao. announcement on monday


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on September 14, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
Daley is IN, lmao. announcement on monday


He's pretty much a lock to win, isn't he?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 14, 2018, 11:40:32 AM
Daley is IN, lmao. announcement on monday

He's pretty much a lock to win, isn't he?
He's a lock to make the runoff, I'd think — he'll get the lion's share of the money. Winning a runoff is more difficult, but still more likely than not at this point.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on September 14, 2018, 11:45:51 AM
Daley is IN, lmao. announcement on monday

He's pretty much a lock to win, isn't he?
He's a lock to make the runoff, I'd think — he'll get the lion's share of the money. Winning a runoff is more difficult, but still more likely than not at this point.

Called it


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on September 14, 2018, 07:52:22 PM
Yesss so happy to see my favorite political family making a comeback.  Chicago needs the Daleys.  We love you!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on September 14, 2018, 08:03:08 PM
I would think that for Bill to jump in he knows Obama will endorse him.  If that’s the case, game over.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: TheSaint250 on September 16, 2018, 09:07:44 AM

Extremely doubtful, especially since she's down back as CTU head.

Gutierrez is out and has endorsed Chuy. Chuy is not yet officially in, but he met with Gutierrez and Munoz last week, so draw your own conclusions.
So he's running for Congress, but also running for Mayor?
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.

That's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Yesss so happy to see my favorite political family making a comeback.  Chicago needs the Daleys.  We love you!

No. No it doesn't.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 16, 2018, 09:37:22 AM
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.

That's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Why?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: TheSaint250 on September 16, 2018, 10:04:50 AM
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.

That's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Why?

It just looks like he's just running to get elected to something and can't commit to the job he has or is running for.

I get that he technically did want to be Mayor of Chicago first, but already planning to leave the office he will win before the election even happens for another office does not reflect well.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 16, 2018, 11:04:25 AM
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.

That's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Why?

It just looks like he's just running to get elected to something and can't commit to the job he has or is running for.

I get that he technically did want to be Mayor of Chicago first, but already planning to leave the office he will win before the election even happens for another office does not reflect well.

I don't see why anyone will care -- he's already been elected Congressman, Mayor's an obvious step up & he's probably better-situated than anyone on the left to make that jump.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: TheSaint250 on September 16, 2018, 11:54:09 AM
Yes, as Harold Washington did in '82. Not without precedent — especially likely as Chuy can now present it as being drafted to run for Mayor, rather than doing so out of ambition.

That's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Why?

It just looks like he's just running to get elected to something and can't commit to the job he has or is running for.

I get that he technically did want to be Mayor of Chicago first, but already planning to leave the office he will win before the election even happens for another office does not reflect well.

I don't see why anyone will care -- he's already been elected Congressman, Mayor's an obvious step up & he's probably better-situated than anyone on the left to make that jump.

Again, it's more about commitment to the job. Abandoning the job before it's begun is a stupid play in politics, but you're right that no one will care. It's a sad truth.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 17, 2018, 06:44:24 PM
Preckwinkle and Garcia will announce their runs this week

https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-daley-joins-mayors-race;-preckwinkle-and-garcia-to-make-announcements-this-week/4268104/

This is shaping up to be a really stacked field.

Early on, I have to favor Preckwinkle, and I think she has a path to victory given her popularity among the black community and north side whites.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: TheSaint250 on September 17, 2018, 08:28:26 PM
Preckwinkle and Garcia will announce their runs this week

https://abc7chicago.com/politics/bill-daley-joins-mayors-race;-preckwinkle-and-garcia-to-make-announcements-this-week/4268104/

This is shaping up to be a really stacked field.

Early on, I have to favor Preckwinkle, and I think she has a path to victory given her popularity among the black community and north side whites.

Garcia better drop out of the congressional race.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Jeppe on September 17, 2018, 09:03:50 PM
Does Garcia have to forfeit his congressional seat to run? Or is it only if he wins?

I'm preemptively rooting for Preckwinkle though.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on September 17, 2018, 11:40:57 PM
Holy crap, it's been two weeks and it's already hitting the fan.

Can I get a list of top 5 frontrunners?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 17, 2018, 11:52:57 PM
Holy crap, it's been two weeks and it's already hitting the fan.

Can I get a list of top 5 frontrunners?

Preckwinkle, Daley, Chuy are your top 3 at the moment. Lord knows about the rest, get back to me in a week or so once some of the dust settles. Probably Vallas and McCarthy at this point, but lord knows -- Mendoza, for example, could flip this race upside down if she gets in.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 18, 2018, 01:25:05 PM
For instance, Gery Chico is now in. Rumor says he has as much as $1.5m lined up

notably, this means there is now a Garry, a Jerry, and a Gery in the race


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: ethanforamerica on September 20, 2018, 10:51:37 AM
Mayor's a step up from Congress, however, Garcia will probably lose to Daley. Why risk a guarantee to run a second underdog mayoral race? Especially knowing that Congress gives him a better shot at a job outside of Illinois since there's a long line of people who want to run statewide. Thirdly, Whenever anything bad happens in Chicago, he'll be the fall guy. Feels dumb to choose to do this ridiculous, "follow your dreams" thing instead of a rational, safe endeavor.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 20, 2018, 11:03:09 AM
Mayor's a step up from Congress, however, Garcia will probably lose to Daley. Why risk a guarantee to run a second underdog mayoral race? Especially knowing that Congress gives him a better shot at a job outside of Illinois since there's a long line of people who want to run statewide.

You're not "risking a guarantee." He will only resign the Congressional seat if he wins. If not, he just stays in Congress.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: ethanforamerica on September 20, 2018, 01:10:56 PM
Mayor's a step up from Congress, however, Garcia will probably lose to Daley. Why risk a guarantee to run a second underdog mayoral race? Especially knowing that Congress gives him a better shot at a job outside of Illinois since there's a long line of people who want to run statewide.

You're not "risking a guarantee." He will only resign the Congressional seat if he wins. If not, he just stays in Congress.

I was operating under the assumption he would drop out of the house race when/if he announced.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on September 20, 2018, 03:54:45 PM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on September 20, 2018, 06:05:16 PM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on September 20, 2018, 07:24:13 PM
Preckwinkle announces run for mayor

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/09/20/preckwinkle-mayor-race-chicago/

Announcing from the same spot as Harold Washington, she hopes to reassemble his coalition of African Americans and white liberals.

She announces amid news that her now former Chief of Staff has resigned amid allegations of sexual misconduct.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on September 26, 2018, 09:25:46 AM
Analysis of Periwinkle by Jacobinmag
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/09/toni-preckwinkle-chicago-mayor-cook-county
Well she seems like a much better candidate than Emmanuel and the machine backed candidates, but who has a cleaner record.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 15, 2018, 03:59:40 PM
Chance The Rapper might be running



Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: ON Progressive on October 15, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
Chance The Rapper might be running



I hate this timeline.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on October 15, 2018, 04:08:49 PM
I heard from a friend in Chicago that petitions are circulating for Mendoza, even though she's not publicly running right now.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Skunk on October 15, 2018, 04:15:28 PM
Chance The Rapper might be running


Hell yeah! Endorsed!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on October 15, 2018, 09:02:14 PM
Sources say Chance not running, will endorse a candidate in press conference (not Preckwinkle)

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/tweet-chance-the-rapper-mayor-chicago-2019-election-somewhere-paradise/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Skunk on October 16, 2018, 12:40:13 PM
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/10/16/chance-the-rapper-amara-enyia-chicago-mayor-race-2019/

Chance endorsed Amara Enyia. Would have loved to see him run himself just for the hell of it, but this is probably better.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on November 30, 2018, 01:38:07 PM
Powerful longtime alderman Ed Burke (think Council Wars) had his city hall & ward offices raided by the FBI yesterday.  He is already facing a potenitally competitive election in Feb.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ed-burke-fbi-federal-agents-city-hall-council/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on December 09, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
Powerful longtime alderman Ed Burke (think Council Wars) had his city hall & ward offices raided by the FBI yesterday.  He is already facing a potenitally competitive election in Feb.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ed-burke-fbi-federal-agents-city-hall-council/

Hope they put him in cuffs. We all know he has done plenty to warrant it over his tenure.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: new_patomic on January 03, 2019, 06:14:07 PM
Powerful longtime alderman Ed Burke (think Council Wars) had his city hall & ward offices raided by the FBI yesterday.  He is already facing a potenitally competitive election in Feb.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ed-burke-fbi-federal-agents-city-hall-council/
Big update:

Ed Burke has now been charged by the Feds!
Ald. Ed Burke charged in attempted extortion of Burger King
(https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-alderman-ed-burke-federal-court-case/)

The extortion apparently entailed Burger King being forced to use his law form for their property tax assessment if they wanted to get the required permits for the renovation at that location.

The complaint also alleges Burke pressured "the company to make a donation to the campaign of an unnamed politician. One company official gave $10,000 to the unnamed politician but that was eventually reduced to the legal limit of $5,600."

The Tribune reports that the unamed politican is, in fact, Toni Preckwinkle (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ed-burke-charged-chicago-mayors-race-20190103-story.html)
Quote
"The campaign contribution that federal prosecutors allege powerful Ald. Edward Burke requested as part of an extortion scheme was intended for Cook County Board President and Chicago mayoral candidate Toni Preckwinkle, according to two sources familiar with the investigation.

In a criminal complaint unsealed Thursday, federal authorities alleged that Burke illegally solicited a campaign donation from an executive with a restaurant company for an unnamed politician. Burke made the request around December 2017, at the same time authorities alleged he tried to extort executives with a company that owns fast food restaurants in the Chicago region and was seeking approval of permits for remodeling work at a location in Burke’s ward.

The Chicago Tribune previously has reported that Burke held a Jan. 19, 2018 fundraiser for Preckwinkle at his Gage Park home, and the sources confirmed that the campaign contribution the 14th ward alderman allegedly solicited illegally was for the Cook County Board president. According to the Burke criminal complaint, however, the politician since identified as Preckwinkle did not report the contribution to state election officials. State law requires all political contributions to be reported by candidates.

Preckwinkle’s campaign did not immediately return calls seeking comment."

Oh boy. Oooh boy. This is all so juicy.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 03, 2019, 08:13:13 PM
Powerful longtime alderman Ed Burke (think Council Wars) had his city hall & ward offices raided by the FBI yesterday.  He is already facing a potenitally competitive election in Feb.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/ed-burke-fbi-federal-agents-city-hall-council/
Big update:

Ed Burke has now been charged by the Feds!
Ald. Ed Burke charged in attempted extortion of Burger King
(https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-alderman-ed-burke-federal-court-case/)

The extortion apparently entailed Burger King being forced to use his law form for their property tax assessment if they wanted to get the required permits for the renovation at that location.

The complaint also alleges Burke pressured "the company to make a donation to the campaign of an unnamed politician. One company official gave $10,000 to the unnamed politician but that was eventually reduced to the legal limit of $5,600."

The Tribune reports that the unamed politican is, in fact, Toni Preckwinkle (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ed-burke-charged-chicago-mayors-race-20190103-story.html)
Quote
"The campaign contribution that federal prosecutors allege powerful Ald. Edward Burke requested as part of an extortion scheme was intended for Cook County Board President and Chicago mayoral candidate Toni Preckwinkle, according to two sources familiar with the investigation.

In a criminal complaint unsealed Thursday, federal authorities alleged that Burke illegally solicited a campaign donation from an executive with a restaurant company for an unnamed politician. Burke made the request around December 2017, at the same time authorities alleged he tried to extort executives with a company that owns fast food restaurants in the Chicago region and was seeking approval of permits for remodeling work at a location in Burke’s ward.

The Chicago Tribune previously has reported that Burke held a Jan. 19, 2018 fundraiser for Preckwinkle at his Gage Park home, and the sources confirmed that the campaign contribution the 14th ward alderman allegedly solicited illegally was for the Cook County Board president. According to the Burke criminal complaint, however, the politician since identified as Preckwinkle did not report the contribution to state election officials. State law requires all political contributions to be reported by candidates.

Preckwinkle’s campaign did not immediately return calls seeking comment."

Oh boy. Oooh boy. This is all so juicy.

There's no reason to believe she knew anything about the donation, much less how it was obtained, but this is a terrible look for her nonetheless. One could say she shouldn't have been allied with Burke in the first place, though that approach could've made it so she didn't have a career at all.

Of course, it is all speculation, but Lightfoot's theory that there had to be a quid pro quo here is plausible as well. I guess we'll find out in time.

Politics in this city are poisoned until all of the Burke types are gone.

Hopefully the news re: Preckwinkle doesn't completely overshadow the fact that Mendoza and Chico have also been closely allied with Burke. Ironically, Daley is probably clean here, as the Daleys have always had a rocky relationship with Burke (even though M nominated him to his current post).


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 10, 2019, 08:39:09 AM
Amid Burke scandal, Preckwinkle drops $750k ad buy touting role in exposing Laquan McDonald shooting

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/preckwinkle-turn-page-burke-scandal-laquan-mcdonald-ad-mayors-race/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Flyersfan232 on January 10, 2019, 08:48:26 AM
who is the republican or closest to a republican in this race.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on January 10, 2019, 08:52:02 AM
Can anyone provide a sort-of rundown on the candidates and their positions or attributes or anything else that makes them stand out?

Its just too confusing for me :p


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 10, 2019, 10:17:22 PM
who is the republican or closest to a republican in this race.

Daley, honestly. Welcome to Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Roll Roons on January 10, 2019, 11:02:09 PM
who is the republican or closest to a republican in this race.

Daley, honestly. Welcome to Chicago.

Also McCarthy.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 11, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
who is the republican or closest to a republican in this race.

Daley, honestly. Welcome to Chicago.

Also McCarthy.

Kind of. Certainly on police issues, but on all other issues he has generally taken progressive stances.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on January 11, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
I think Obama if they endorse I think they would endorse Prickenwitle as she was the one who started his political career in 96 even though they had a rift or else he would vote Meldoza


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 12, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
I think Obama if they endorse I think they would endorse Prickenwitle as she was the one who started his political career in 96 even though they had a rift or else he would vote Meldoza

I think there is a decent chance he does not endorse, but if he does, I expect him to endorse Preckwinkle. Despite the rift, Obama endorsed her for re-election in 2018.

Obama and Mendoza don't have any sort of history.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on January 12, 2019, 11:47:37 AM
I think Obama if they endorse I think they would endorse Prickenwitle as she was the one who started his political career in 96 even though they had a rift or else he would vote Meldoza

I think there is a decent chance he does not endorse, but if he does, I expect him to endorse Preckwinkle. Despite the rift, Obama endorsed her for re-election in 2018.

Obama and Mendoza don't have any sort of history.
or maybe Daley if Preckwinkle didn't run


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 12, 2019, 11:51:59 AM
I think Obama if they endorse I think they would endorse Prickenwitle as she was the one who started his political career in 96 even though they had a rift or else he would vote Meldoza

I think there is a decent chance he does not endorse, but if he does, I expect him to endorse Preckwinkle. Despite the rift, Obama endorsed her for re-election in 2018.

Obama and Mendoza don't have any sort of history.
or maybe Daley if Preckwinkle didn't run

Yes, certainly. In fact, he may wait until a runoff to endorse Preckwinkle to avoid snubbing Daley (assuming the runoff if not Preckwinkle vs Daley).


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on January 12, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
who is the republican or closest to a republican in this race.

Daley, honestly. Welcome to Chicago.

Also McCarthy.

Kind of. Certainly on police issues, but on all other issues he has generally taken progressive stances.

You guys are spelling Willie Wilson wrong


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 12, 2019, 07:59:57 PM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on January 12, 2019, 08:08:06 PM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

Thanks for all the info! What about the opposite? Who are the Progressives and liberals in this race?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 12, 2019, 08:35:25 PM
Thanks for all the info! What about the opposite? Who are the Progressives and liberals in this race?

Preckwinkle, Lightfoot & Enyia have been the most active in courting the city's "progressive" faction. Preckwinkle is probably the most "traditional"/establishment of the bunch, currently serving as the Chair of the Cook County Democratic Party -- she's won most of the unions & major institutional endorsements. Lightfoot has a few progressive and LGBT groups, and is a favorite of liberal/'good government' folks. Enyia has a youth-based strategy -- her biggest endorsement has come from Chance the Rapper.

Lightfoot is probably my preferred candidate overall, but I'll only vote for her if Preckwinkle seems guaranteed one of the runoff spots -- if there's any real potential of a Mendoza-Daley runoff, I'll vote for Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 13, 2019, 09:39:00 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

I was speaking more so in terms of preferred policy as opposed to courting actual Republicans. Going to Republican events etc is a waste of time in this city - they do not represent a serious voting bloc. On the other hand, there are candidates whose policies are more conservative than others. Daley has openly said he wants to amend the IL Constitution to make it so the state can go back and reduce the pensions of those who have already worked. He stated that he did not favor a progressive income tax in Illinois (Vallas says he does, Fioretti and McCarthy also say no).


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 13, 2019, 09:41:01 AM
Lightfoot is probably my preferred candidate overall, but I'll only vote for her if Preckwinkle seems guaranteed one of the runoff spots -- if there's any real potential of a Mendoza-Daley runoff, I'll vote for Preckwinkle.

I'm taking the same approach at this point. The ironic point is that Lightfoot could be a factor in forcing Preckwinkle out of the runoff. She is aiming for the same coalition that Preckwinkle is - the Harold Washington coalition of African Americans plus white reformist liberals on the north side. Mendoza is shooting for a coalition of Latino residents plus WWC workers on the far NW and SW sides. Daley hopes to peel off enough of the north side whites + Latinos (his brother's coalition).


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on January 13, 2019, 10:22:34 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 13, 2019, 10:37:06 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.

No, she is certainly not. She has fallen in line with Madigan and the rest of the machine every step of the way. She cites Madigan and Ed Burke as her mentors. She is no reformist nor progressive.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on January 13, 2019, 10:48:37 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.

No, she is certainly not. She has fallen in line with Madigan and the rest of the machine every step of the way. She cites Madigan and Ed Burke as her mentors. She is no reformist nor progressive.

What kind of metric is that? You don't necessarily have to be a reformist to be a progressive or liberal. Preckwinkle, for example, is also a machine politician... and is far more dependent on her machine ties than Mendoza (Mendoza actually has a strong personal brand at this point. Without her machine ties Preckwinkle would have no hope of making the runoff.)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 13, 2019, 11:23:26 AM
What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.
There's a difference between being a conservative, which Wilson is, and being a Republican in the particular sense of today's Republican Party, which is what I assumed the poster was asking about. Wilson specifically has embraced an odd blend of generally "pro-business" policies that appeal to conservatives (a property tax freeze, for instance) with policies that are anathema to everything the GOP stands for (sanctuary city, ending police brutality, free CTA for seniors). It's correct to understand him as one of the more conservative candidates among the members of the field, but it's very odd to call him a Republican (a lot of this also applies to Daley, for that matter).

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th
She's fourth in the most recent polling.

I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.
No


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on January 13, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.
There's a difference between being a conservative, which Wilson is, and being a Republican in the particular sense of today's Republican Party, which is what I assumed the poster was asking about. Wilson specifically has embraced an odd blend of generally "pro-business" policies that appeal to conservatives (a property tax freeze, for instance) with policies that are anathema to everything the GOP stands for (sanctuary city, ending police brutality, free CTA for seniors). It's correct to understand him as one of the more conservative candidates among the members of the field, but it's very odd to call him a Republican (a lot of this also applies to Daley, for that matter)

Well, I don't think any major candidate is a "normal" Republican. If we're talking about candidates above asterisk level that Republicans might support, Wilson is definitely up there.

Edit: I mean, Vallas, who you listed, was literally Pat Quinn's running mate in 2014.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th
She's fourth in the most recent polling.

Could you link me the poll? The best poll I've seen for Eniya was the recent CTU poll that had her at 7%, behind Preckwinkle, Mendoza, Daley, and McCarthy. And I expect her to fall, not rise, during the campaign because she has no money and barely any campaign infrastructure.


I can't imagine thinking Mendoza is to the right of, say, Preckwinkle. Could you expand on your thoughts here?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 13, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.

No, she is certainly not. She has fallen in line with Madigan and the rest of the machine every step of the way. She cites Madigan and Ed Burke as her mentors. She is no reformist nor progressive.

What kind of metric is that? You don't necessarily have to be a reformist to be a progressive or liberal. Preckwinkle, for example, is also a machine politician... and is far more dependent on her machine ties than Mendoza (Mendoza actually has a strong personal brand at this point. Without her machine ties Preckwinkle would have no hope of making the runoff.)

Preckwinkle actually has a record of progressive opposition. As alderman, she voted many times against Daley's budgets. One time, she was the only one to do so. As Board President, she has made significant investments in criminal justice reform and restorative justice/recidivism reduction programs. She has a strong record on affordable housing. She opposed the parking meter deal. She pushed for weed decriminalization. She opposed Rahm on the school closings.

Preckwinkle has certainly made friends with certain individuals in order to avoid conflict with those individuals, but that is trumped by her progressive record. What is Mendoza's progressive record?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on January 13, 2019, 11:50:11 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.

No, she is certainly not. She has fallen in line with Madigan and the rest of the machine every step of the way. She cites Madigan and Ed Burke as her mentors. She is no reformist nor progressive.

What kind of metric is that? You don't necessarily have to be a reformist to be a progressive or liberal. Preckwinkle, for example, is also a machine politician... and is far more dependent on her machine ties than Mendoza (Mendoza actually has a strong personal brand at this point. Without her machine ties Preckwinkle would have no hope of making the runoff.)

Preckwinkle actually has a record of progressive opposition. As alderman, she voted many times against Daley's budgets. One time, she was the only one to do so. As Board President, she has made significant investments in criminal justice reform and restorative justice/recidivism reduction programs. She has a strong record on affordable housing. She opposed the parking meter deal.

Preckwinkle has certainly made friends with certain individuals in order to avoid conflict with those individuals, but that is trumped by her progressive record. What is Mendoza's progressive record?

Well, she supported moving to a progressive income tax system and raising the minimum wage. Opposing Madigan is just political suicide, especially if you're a state representative.

I want to be clear I'm not against Preckwinkle or disagreeing that she's a solid progressive. I just can't see her as being that different on the issues from Mendoza, and I really can't see her being more of an outsider.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 13, 2019, 11:57:04 AM
the "Republican" in the race is not Daley, and certainly not Wilson. Daley stands for the interests of the city's wealthy elite, but that's not synonymous with Republicans, especially in Chicago -- it's more or less a lot of the same people who backed Rahm. The candidates who are actively attempting to court Republicans (appearing at GOP events, targeting GOP voters, etc) are Joyce, Fioretti, Kozlar, McCarthy and Vallas, the latter two of whom are the most serious. Vallas, hilariously, showed up at my college's College Republicans meeting, and recently received the endorsement of Bruce Rauner. McCarthy, meanwhile, is pursuing the votes of every cop in the city

if you're a Republican in Chicago, you're probably voting for McCarthy if you're one of the northwest side Republicans, and Vallas if you're one of the rich Republicans who wants to privatize every function of city government. Also a decent chance of voting for Joyce or Kozlar, depending on neighborhood ties (southwest side for the former, Canaryville for the latter). No idea who's voting for Fioretti, but someone is lmao

What do you mean "certainly not Wilson"? Rauner praised Wilson on multiple occasions. Also, Rauner did not only endorse Vallas. He said he thought Vallas or Wilson would make the best Mayor. Whether or not Wilson is actively courting Republicans, he's certainly a candidate that appeals to Republicans.

Also, re:your next comment, Eniya is a complete non factor who will finish like 12th, and I would certainly add Mendoza is a progressive liberal.

No, she is certainly not. She has fallen in line with Madigan and the rest of the machine every step of the way. She cites Madigan and Ed Burke as her mentors. She is no reformist nor progressive.

What kind of metric is that? You don't necessarily have to be a reformist to be a progressive or liberal. Preckwinkle, for example, is also a machine politician... and is far more dependent on her machine ties than Mendoza (Mendoza actually has a strong personal brand at this point. Without her machine ties Preckwinkle would have no hope of making the runoff.)

Preckwinkle actually has a record of progressive opposition. As alderman, she voted many times against Daley's budgets. One time, she was the only one to do so. As Board President, she has made significant investments in criminal justice reform and restorative justice/recidivism reduction programs. She has a strong record on affordable housing. She opposed the parking meter deal.

Preckwinkle has certainly made friends with certain individuals in order to avoid conflict with those individuals, but that is trumped by her progressive record. What is Mendoza's progressive record?

Well, she supported moving to a progressive income tax system and raising the minimum wage. Opposing Madigan is just political suicide, especially if you're a state representative.

I want to be clear I'm not against Preckwinkle or disagreeing that she's a solid progressive. I just can't see her as being that different on the issues from Mendoza, and I really can't see her being more of an outsider.

Preckwinkle favors the progressive income tax and has been calling for a $15 minimum wage for some time.

I think you're off base here. Preckwinkle is considered to be more progressive than Mendoza.

Also, to circle back to the earlier point, it is very difficult to be considered a progressive if you're tied up with the machine. Ironically, Preckwinkle is probably the best example of it. Mendoza is more tied up than anyone else (save maybe Chico) - she got married at Ed Burke's house, for cryin out loud. We're not just talking about national political issues here. Locally, reform is part of the progressive platform.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 15, 2019, 01:07:45 PM
Well, I don't think any major candidate is a "normal" Republican. If we're talking about candidates above asterisk level that Republicans might support, Wilson is definitely up there.

Edit: I mean, Vallas, who you listed, was literally Pat Quinn's running mate in 2014.

This is the Willie Wilson experience. His politics are esoteric in a way that positions him as "conservative" but which certainly does not appeal him to the Republicans who actually vote in these things -- I expect his vote patterns will have very little statistical relationship w/ Trump or Rauner's percentage.

All of these people are Democrats, it's true, but the part of the story you're missing is the fury the Vallas pick generated -- he is and has always been a privatizer.

Could you link me the poll? The best poll I've seen for Eniya was the recent CTU poll that had her at 7%, behind Preckwinkle, Mendoza, Daley, and McCarthy. And I expect her to fall, not rise, during the campaign because she has no money and barely any campaign infrastructure.
I'm referring to the CTU poll, in which she was tied for fourth with McCarthy. Not sure why you'd expect her to fall -- she's at 7% with no money, and the news cycle since that CTU poll has been, uh, less than favorable for the people above her.

I can't imagine thinking Mendoza is to the right of, say, Preckwinkle. Could you expand on your thoughts here?
Mendoza is Madigan's candidate and is significantly to the right of Preckwinkle as a result.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 27, 2019, 12:48:57 PM
A new Sun Times/We Ask America poll shows Preckwinkle narrowly leading the pack ahead of Daley with a large share of respondents still undecided.

However, in head to head match ups against Mendoza and Daley, Preckwinkle loses both.

https://www.scribd.com/document/398217562/Sun-Times-Chicago-Mayoral-Jan-2019-Draft


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 29, 2019, 10:32:56 AM
voted for Lightfoot


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on January 29, 2019, 07:03:14 PM
Glad to see the good people of Chicago coming back to their loving overlords, the Daleys 🥰


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 30, 2019, 08:49:55 AM

And Ameya? :)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on January 30, 2019, 04:09:04 PM
And Ameya!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 01, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
Highly respected and beloved Congressman Bobby Rush has endorsed Daley.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-bobby-rush-endorses-bill-daley-20190131-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-bobby-rush-endorses-bill-daley-20190131-story.html)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 01, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
Co-founder of Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party endorses son of man who murdered Fred Hampton


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 02, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Laura Ricketts backs Mendoza, to co-chair campaign despite brother's financial support of Daley

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-laura-ricketts-susana-mendoza-20190131-story.html

I don't get it. I really do not see the appeal of Mendoza.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Alabama_Indy10 on February 02, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I wouldn’t be excited about any of the candidates but I guess I would vote for Daley.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on February 05, 2019, 07:54:33 PM
Lets go Gary!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on February 05, 2019, 09:44:28 PM
Preckwrinkle will be the next mayor, her time as County Commissioner was a reformed effort that ended the Stroger corruption. She will root out corruption in Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 06, 2019, 01:33:14 PM
I wouldn’t be excited about any of the candidates but I guess I would vote for Daley.
why? are you a real estate developer?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 07, 2019, 08:04:27 PM
Preckwrinkle will be the next mayor, her time as County Commissioner was a reformed effort that ended the Stroger corruption. She will root out corruption in Chicago.

I really want to think that, but why did she endorse Berrios? Why did she cuddle up to Burke?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 08, 2019, 07:27:18 AM
The Sun Times endorses Lori Lightfoot

https://bit.ly/2TF5Asf

She still probably has no chance, but I love it anyway.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 13, 2019, 08:37:20 AM
Republican mega-donor drops big money on Daley

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-ken-griffin-bill-dailey-donation-20190212-story.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Drew on February 13, 2019, 01:33:14 PM
Chicago Tribune endorses Daley.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-chicago-mayor-endorse-20190210-story.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 13, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Only a Daley can fix Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 13, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
as if we needed two more reasons to vote for anyone but Daley


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 13, 2019, 08:33:23 PM
It doesn't matter in any meaningful way, obviously, but I'd interested in hearing why a lot of lefties appear to support Lori Lightningbolt over Amara.

I like Amara, but I don't want an expanded sales tax (regressive) or a city income tax.

Lightfoot, Enyia, and Preckwinkle are my top three, but Lightfoot aligns with me on essentially every issue.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 13, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
Chicago Tribune endorses Daley.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-chicago-mayor-endorse-20190210-story.html

Just another year of getting it wrong. I'm sure they were disappointed Gary Johnson couldn't run for mayor.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 13, 2019, 08:36:45 PM

Idk what this means. The last Daley got us into the position we are now financially.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 13, 2019, 10:15:53 PM
It doesn't matter in any meaningful way, obviously, but I'd interested in hearing why a lot of lefties appear to support Lori Lightningbolt over Amara.

I like Amara, but I don't want an expanded sales tax (regressive) or a city income tax.

Lightfoot, Enyia, and Preckwinkle are my top three, but Lightfoot aligns with me on essentially every issue.

What's going on in the Treasurer race? I'm not going to do so much as insinuate that I know anything of the dynamics of the contest or even what the position actually entails, but Pawar is lovely and I want to see him shine.

It is tough to gauge how it is going to shake out on election night given that polling is non-existent. Conyears-Ervin has gotten a lot of labor support. Pawar has the support of some labor and a lot of local progressive congresspeople - Chuy, Gutierrez, Quigley, etc. Pawar got the papers' endorsements as well if they mean anything.

Fingers crossed. Ameya could do so much good if he wins, but Chicagoans rarely make the right choice, so I won't be optimistic until I see he has won.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 13, 2019, 11:13:31 PM
It doesn't matter in any meaningful way, obviously, but I'd interested in hearing why a lot of lefties appear to support Lori Lightningbolt over Amara.

not thrilled w/ either option, but Amara has a background that makes it difficult for me to trust her to follow through on any lefty policy priorities -- her work history is Daley, a pro-charter group, and a chamber of commerce (obvs the Austin CoC is not as bad as most, but still a business group). add that background to a general pattern of duplicitousness (taxes, Ironman, possibly impersonating an attorney) and a willingness to partner w/ actors like Dorothy Brown and Kanye and it's difficult for me to feel comfortable voting for her.

that leaves us w/ two lefty candidates, and I think Lightfoot's flaws (bad record on policing) aren't quite as bad as Preckwinkle's (Burke ties, Berrios endorsement, support for regressive taxes + HQ2). I'll end up voting for Preckwinkle (or either of the other two) in the runoff, if we should be so fortunate as to get the opportunity. Still convinced it ends up Daley-Wilson or something equally bad.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on February 14, 2019, 10:13:19 AM
Preckwrinkle I like because she has the Daley coalition with Blacks


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 15, 2019, 08:38:46 AM
NBC Poll:

Preckwinkle 14%

Daley 13%

Mendoza 12%

Lightfoot 10%

Chico 9%

Enyia 7%

Undecided 19%

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/nbc-5-telemundo-chicago-mayor-race-poll-505857991.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 15, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
Good lord this is going down to the wire, what are the chances Lightfoot gets in?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 16, 2019, 09:14:43 AM
Good lord this is going down to the wire, what are the chances Lightfoot gets in?

It's Chicago, so we will probably end up with a Daley-Chico match up or some garbage like that


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 16, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
The firefighters union joined FOP in endorsing Ed Burke in the 14th, despite his pending extortion indictment.

You just can't make the stuff up.

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52087561_347443129315490_2334158332731850752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=59b8638984ee255eb9790fd31f376e38&oe=5CF613F0


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 19, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
I listened to Lori Lightfoot yesterday - she is really convincing.  Very intelligent.  Toni is so unlikeable.   I think if LLF got into a runoff she would have a real chance at winning againt any candidate.  Too bad she's anti-police!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 19, 2019, 01:25:39 PM
I listened to Lori Lightfoot yesterday - she is really convincing.  Very intelligent.  Toni is so unlikeable.   I think if LLF got into a runoff she would have a real chance at winning againt any candidate.  Too bad she's anti-police!
lol, she's taken a good amount of flak from the left for being too pro-police


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 20, 2019, 10:53:52 PM
Lightfoot picks up endorsements of Rep. Robin Kelly, David Orr, and Dick Simpson

https://abc7chicago.com/politics/lori-lighfoot-picks-up-endorsements-in-week-before-mayoral-election-/5147724/

I try not to get my hopes up, but it never works


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2019, 10:57:39 PM
Lightfoot picks up endorsements of Rep. Robin Kelly, David Orr, and Dick Simpson

https://abc7chicago.com/politics/lori-lighfoot-picks-up-endorsements-in-week-before-mayoral-election-/5147724/

I try not to get my hopes up, but it never works

Come on Lori!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on February 21, 2019, 12:10:19 AM
I hope its a Preckwickle/Mendoza or Preckwickle/Lightfoot runoff.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on February 21, 2019, 03:28:15 AM
I've gotten like 6 separate texts from the Vallas campaign today. Obviously Vallas is on track to win with such committed support.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 21, 2019, 09:58:03 AM
I hope its a Preckwickle/Mendoza or Preckwickle/Lightfoot runoff.

How about hoping it's Lightfoot/Mendoza instead of having Preckwinkle in? :P


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 21, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
I hope its a Preckwickle/Mendoza or Preckwickle/Lightfoot runoff.

How about hoping it's Lightfoot/Mendoza instead of having Preckwinkle in? :P

I'd rather the person that got married at Ed Burke's house be eliminated ASAP


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on February 21, 2019, 11:16:37 PM
Willie Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County GOP.

Still think he's not going to get the most Republican support, sjoyce? ;)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 21, 2019, 11:23:46 PM
It doesn't matter in any meaningful way, obviously, but I'd interested in hearing why a lot of lefties appear to support Lori Lightningbolt over Amara.
Amara is a reformist, but you don’t really expect leftists to vote for a Chamber of Commerce local leader?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 22, 2019, 08:37:24 AM
Preckwinkle cuts ties with top aide after Facebook post comparing Lightfoot to nazis

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/toni-preckwinkle-top-aide-scott-cisek-nazi-facebook-post-506208851.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 22, 2019, 02:24:25 PM
Willie Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County GOP.

Still think he's not going to get the most Republican support, sjoyce? ;)

Yes? the Cook County GOP is mostly run by cranks, not sure why you think they matter


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 23, 2019, 10:04:09 AM
Willie Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County GOP.

Still think he's not going to get the most Republican support, sjoyce? ;)

Yes? the Cook County GOP is mostly run by cranks, not sure why you think they matter

My favorite thing about the endorsement being reported in the news is that many people were genuinely surprised to hear that a Cook County GOP exists.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 24, 2019, 09:45:53 PM
Joyce volunteers were handing out literature to mass goers following this evening's service (which I found distasteful) and a lot of folks in the crowd were expressing support. Interesting, considering that I don't live on the far NW/SW sides, though I do know Joyce is a Catholic, which could be it.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on February 24, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
Willie Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County GOP.

Still think he's not going to get the most Republican support, sjoyce? ;)

Yes? the Cook County GOP is mostly run by cranks, not sure why you think they matter
Oddly, Willie Wilson was also endorsed by Progressive Caucus and DSA member Congressman Danny K. Davis. To someone out of the loop, can someone tell me what’s Willie Wilson’s platform for mayor? Because all of these contradictory endorsements along with no ad presence makes it very confusing to know the appeal and niche one has to be polling 10%.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 24, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Willie Wilson was endorsed by the Cook County GOP.

Still think he's not going to get the most Republican support, sjoyce? ;)

Yes? the Cook County GOP is mostly run by cranks, not sure why you think they matter
Oddly, Willie Wilson was also endorsed by Progressive Caucus and DSA member Congressman Danny K. Davis. To someone out of the loop, can someone tell me what’s Willie Wilson’s platform for mayor? Because all of these contradictory endorsements along with no ad presence makes it very confusing to know the appeal and niche one has to be polling 10%.

He doesn't have a coherant platform which is why he's able to appeal to so many random people.  I don't think a lot of Republicans that support him are serious, they just think it would be funny if he won.  He's not a bright bulb.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 24, 2019, 11:46:46 PM
The Cook County GOP exists because of people like Napolitano and McAuliffe, who represent the white ethnic Chicagoans---the types that elected Trump.

It seems that a city/urban Republican Party has to work in a coalition/fusion line with Democrats to win citywide since the national GOP brand is toxic in the cities.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 24, 2019, 11:48:00 PM
Who is the most liberal candidate?

Who is the most conservative candidate?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 25, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
Final poll:

Lightfoot 14%

Daley 14%

Preckwinkle 14%

Mendoza 9%

Chico 9%

Wilson 9%

Joyce 8%

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000169-236e-dd5d-a5eb-7beeb54f0000

White voters prefer Lightfoot, Daley, and Joyce. Black voters prefer Preckwinkle and Lightfoot. Latinx voters prefer Chico, Mendoza, and Daley.

Male voters like Lightfoot and Daley. Female voters like Preckwinkle and Daley.

Lightfoot wins any runoff according to the poll. Daley beats Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Illiniwek on February 25, 2019, 10:19:13 AM
Its crazy that the 1st and 7th candidates in that poll are only separated by 6%. Chicago should really have Ranked Choice Voting or something comparable.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 25, 2019, 10:43:29 AM
Why isn't McCarthy doing well in the polls?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 25, 2019, 11:53:26 AM
Why isn't McCarthy doing well in the polls?

there are reasons, but explaining them would shatter your entire worldview, so


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 25, 2019, 11:55:13 AM
Why isn't McCarthy doing well in the polls?

there are reasons, but explaining them would shatter your entire worldview, so

No, it won't. Explain to me. Please.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on February 25, 2019, 12:52:06 PM
Why isn't McCarthy doing well in the polls?

there are reasons, but explaining them would shatter your entire worldview, so

No, it won't. Explain to me. Please.
Chicagoans won’t vote for someone part of an organization that tries to hide the murder of young black men. That’s part of the reason why Rahm Emmanuel declined to go another term.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 25, 2019, 12:54:11 PM
Okay I'm not sure about this at all, how is Lightfoot "surging" in the last few days?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 25, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
Okay I'm not sure about this at all, how is Lightfoot "surging" in the last few days?
It's mostly driven by the fact that she's surging -- there's a feedback loop here. I think most of the voters I know are/were reluctant Preckwinkle voters, unhappy w/ her dealings with Burke but considering her the only acceptable option among the frontrunners. Now that Lightfoot seems like she also has a shot at the runoff, no reason to hold your nose for Preckwinkle. The S-T endorsement really kicked it off, but the 'progressive establishment' endorsements (Waguespack, Kelly) and the good polls have built on that momentum.

Joyce volunteers were handing out literature to mass goers following this evening's service (which I found distasteful) and a lot of folks in the crowd were expressing support. Interesting, considering that I don't live on the far NW/SW sides, though I do know Joyce is a Catholic, which could be it.

I think he might sneak into a runoff -- he's got a decent field operation and strong support in a lot of high-turnout wards. Weather tomorrow's gonna be nasty, which probably helps him too.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 25, 2019, 02:35:57 PM
Well, whatever happens, I just don't want Preckwinkle in the runoff.  Lightfoot seems good to me based off her website, so go her!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 25, 2019, 04:15:31 PM
Okay I'm not sure about this at all, how is Lightfoot "surging" in the last few days?
It's mostly driven by the fact that she's surging -- there's a feedback loop here. I think most of the voters I know are/were reluctant Preckwinkle voters, unhappy w/ her dealings with Burke but considering her the only acceptable option among the frontrunners. Now that Lightfoot seems like she also has a shot at the runoff, no reason to hold your nose for Preckwinkle. The S-T endorsement really kicked it off, but the 'progressive establishment' endorsements (Waguespack, Kelly) and the good polls have built on that momentum.

I think what hasn’t gotten a lot of attention is that Lightfoot is also surging in the black community. I think that a lot of the folks you reference are north side white liberals, but I think Preckwinkle’s popularity in the black community has been waning for some time and so many are looking for another option. That option could have been Daley or Wilson if Lightfoot weren’t in the race, so thankfully she is.

Also, I think Lightfoot stands to do well among lakefront voters who may not necessarily be progressive but who have a distaste for the machine. Thinking LP and near north (vs Lakeview, Lincoln Square, Uptown, which are more genuinely progressive).

If she comes out on top, she’s essentially assembling the Harold Washington coalition.

Since she and Preckwinkle are fighting for those same groups, it’s a safe bet that either Daley, Mendoza, or Chico are in the runoff. Probably Daley, but if his support among Latinos doesn’t pan out, Chico or Mendoza have a clear path.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:04:07 AM
Just voted for Lori and Ameya, among others. Will be back on this evening for the discussion!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 09:28:15 AM
What time does the election start?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 26, 2019, 10:01:29 AM

About 3 hours ago


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: RedPrometheus on February 26, 2019, 02:32:58 PM
Where can you watch results and when are they coming in?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on February 26, 2019, 04:54:56 PM
Who is the progressive option in the race? Asking for a friend.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 26, 2019, 05:02:11 PM
Where can you watch results and when are they coming in?

Any major newspaper should have results. Polls close at 7 central, results shortly after that (though they're no longer allowed to pre-count early/absentee votes, so a little slower than we're used to). I'll personally be listening to WBEZ's coverage and maybe the Chicago Reader's livestream.

Who is the progressive option in the race? Asking for a friend.
Reply hazy, try again later


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on February 26, 2019, 05:30:40 PM
Who is the progressive option in the race? Asking for a friend.
Lori Lightfoot at this point, as Toni Preckwincle is too tied to the machine and Amara Eniya May have sketchy tax returns in the lieu of Trump. If any of these three make it to the runoff by themselves, don’t however vote for the machine and vote for them.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 05:35:31 PM
Where can you watch results and when are they coming in?

Any major newspaper should have results. Polls close at 7 central, results shortly after that (though they're no longer allowed to pre-count early/absentee votes, so a little slower than we're used to). I'll personally be listening to WBEZ's coverage and maybe the Chicago Reader's livestream.

Who is the progressive option in the race? Asking for a friend.
Reply hazy, try again later
Where can you see coverage but you don't want to watch it? (I have homework from being sick)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on February 26, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
Where can you watch results and when are they coming in?

Any major newspaper should have results. Polls close at 7 central, results shortly after that (though they're no longer allowed to pre-count early/absentee votes, so a little slower than we're used to). I'll personally be listening to WBEZ's coverage and maybe the Chicago Reader's livestream.

Who is the progressive option in the race? Asking for a friend.
Reply hazy, try again later
Where can you see coverage but you don't want to watch it? (I have homework from being sick)
here ya go-
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/elections/results-page/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 06:21:59 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Why Daley? You could easily of voted for Gerry Chico or Garry McCarthy or Susana Meldoza


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on February 26, 2019, 06:27:37 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Any fault the city has is in part due to the corrupt Daley clan. A Rahm-lite candidate would be disastrous for the city considering the emigration of those with the means to the suburbs and sun belt, like in the aftermath of the Teacher Strike a few years ago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 06:29:27 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Why Daley? You could easily of voted for Gerry Chico or Garry McCarthy or Susana Meldoza

McCarthy has absolutely no chance.  Chico or Mendoza would be acceptable but why go for that when you have a legend on the ballot.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 06:30:11 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Why Daley? You could easily of voted for Gerry Chico or Garry McCarthy or Susana Meldoza

McCarthy has absolutely no chance.  Chico or Mendoza would be acceptable but why go for that when you have a legend on the ballot.
I was meming with McCarthy.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on February 26, 2019, 06:30:28 PM
Was a hard choice between Daley and Vallas, went Vallas

inb4 Daley/Vallas runoff


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 06:30:54 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Any fault the city has is in part due to the corrupt Daley clan. A Rahm-lite candidate would be disastrous for the city considering the emigration of those with the means to the suburbs and sun belt, like in the aftermath of the Teacher Strike a few years ago.

The faults Chicago has would be much, much worse without the Daley/Rahm leadership over the past decades.  They’ve kept the city a place where business actually wants to invest in.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
Was a hard choice between Daley and Vallas, went Vallas

inb4 Daley/Vallas runoff

Vallas ain’t gonna make it doe.  I will personally blame you if Daley misses the runoff!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 06:39:50 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Any fault the city has is in part due to the corrupt Daley clan. A Rahm-lite candidate would be disastrous for the city considering the emigration of those with the means to the suburbs and sun belt, like in the aftermath of the Teacher Strike a few years ago.

The faults Chicago has would be much, much worse without the Daley/Rahm leadership over the past decades.  They’ve kept the city a place where business actually wants to invest in.
If you want a buinessman, vote Willie "Omar Medical Supplies" Wilson


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 07:08:58 PM
Just cast my vote for the BIG D!  Lets hope we get a Daley/Burke two-fer tonight - can’t let Chicago go the way of Detroit.
Any fault the city has is in part due to the corrupt Daley clan. A Rahm-lite candidate would be disastrous for the city considering the emigration of those with the means to the suburbs and sun belt, like in the aftermath of the Teacher Strike a few years ago.

The faults Chicago has would be much, much worse without the Daley/Rahm leadership over the past decades.  They’ve kept the city a place where business actually wants to invest in.

Lol gross. I had hope when you said you were considering Lightfoot. The neighborhoods that we live in may have benefited from Daley/Rahm leadership, but most of the city has not.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 07:21:57 PM
There might be record low turout accorind to the Trib.  Pretty pathetic considering some of the Daley elections were barely even contested.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 26, 2019, 07:28:25 PM
Low turnout probably because of:

1) Cold February Midwest weather

Should Chicago change the date to warmer days?

2) Apathy

What difference does it make? My vote doesn't count or matter. It's a Democratic city/council anyway.

3) Trump suck oxygen from society


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 07:46:36 PM
Why does a major American city elect its mayor in February


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 07:54:59 PM
Why does a major American city elect its mayor in February
don't know


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 08:00:38 PM
Polls close in Chicago


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 26, 2019, 08:04:50 PM
I don't have a preference for who wins.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 26, 2019, 08:09:14 PM
Honestly I am more interested in seeing if Chicago's lone Republican on the city council survives this election.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 26, 2019, 08:11:02 PM
Honestly I am more interested in seeing if Chicago's lone Republican on the city council survives this election.
How much did he or she win in the last election?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 26, 2019, 08:13:50 PM
Honestly I am more interested in seeing if Chicago's lone Republican on the city council survives this election.
How much did he or she win in the last election?

51.6-48.4


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:20:51 PM
Why does a major American city elect its mayor in February

To help incumbents. The machine will get its people out to vote no matter what.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
I hope Proco Joe win.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Oryxslayer on February 26, 2019, 08:26:39 PM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:27:12 PM

Why do you like all the worst people


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:30:48 PM
Daley-LLF-Toni with 5% in.

17-14-13


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:33:13 PM
Burke at 48% with just 3 percent reporting.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
LL 16%
BD 15%
TP 15%

34% in


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:34:32 PM
Whoa - just shot up to 34%.

LLF-Daley-Toni
16-15-15


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Jeppe on February 26, 2019, 08:34:33 PM
COME ON PRECKWINKLE, LOCK DALEY OUT!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
Burke is over 50% with over 35% in. This city can be such a joke.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:38:14 PM
Treasurer:

MCE 44%
AP 41%
PG 15%


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 08:39:19 PM
Where can I see all the results?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:39:25 PM
Lets go Melissa Conyears-Ervin !


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 26, 2019, 08:39:34 PM

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/elections/results-page/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 08:39:47 PM

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/elections/results-page/
Jesus, that was fast. 20 seconds.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:39:52 PM
Martin at 40% (!!!) in the 47th. Would be crazy if that race didn't go to a runoff - was packed full with candidates


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 26, 2019, 08:40:20 PM

I'm on the site and am refreshing Atlas


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Jeppe on February 26, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
Lightfoot and Preckwinkle leading at 56% of precincts reporting!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 26, 2019, 08:41:51 PM
Looks like Napolitano will hold on.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:42:46 PM

Mayor
1158 out of 2069 precincts (55.97 %)

JERRY JOYCE   24,513   8.14 %
PAUL VALLAS   16,993   5.65 %
WILLIE L. WILSON   30,768   10.22 %
TONI PRECKWINKLE   46,707   15.52 %
WILLIAM M. DALEY   44,155   14.67 %
GARRY MCCARTHY   8,504   2.83 %
GERY CHICO   19,630   6.52 %
SUSANA A. MENDOZA   28,128   9.34 %
AMARA ENYIA   23,321   7.75 %
LA SHAWN K. FORD   2,817   0.94 %
NEAL SALES-GRIFFIN   774   0.26 %
LORI LIGHTFOOT   51,103   16.98 %
ROBERT ''BOB'' FIORETTI   2,302   0.76 %
JOHN KENNETH KOZLAR   1,311   0.44 %


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:43:33 PM
Treasurer
1158 out of 2069 precincts (55.97 %)

MELISSA CONYEARS-ERVIN   121,953   44.29 %
AMEYA PAWAR   113,685   41.28 %
PETER GARIEPY   39,730   14.43 %


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Lightfoot looks pretty good so far, hopefully Periwinkle stays in 2nd.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 08:46:03 PM
Matt Martin is killing it in the 47th. Holy crap


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:47:54 PM
Burke is up to 53% now, looks like he might hold on.  At least we have one good result tonight!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on February 26, 2019, 08:58:26 PM

Good. You need multiple parties in a political system--anywhere.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 08:58:37 PM
I would say LLF is almost definitely in at this point.  Up to 66% in now.  Its down to Toni or Daley.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 08:59:24 PM


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 09:06:44 PM
Treasurer
1158 out of 2069 precincts (55.97 %)

MELISSA CONYEARS-ERVIN   121,953   44.29 %
AMEYA PAWAR   113,685   41.28 %
PETER GARIEPY   39,730   14.43 %

Does it go to a runoff if no one receives a majority?

Yep


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 09:09:50 PM
Lightfoot and Preckwinkle increase their raw vote lead with every update - up to 70% now.  Almost ready to call it.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Jeppe on February 26, 2019, 09:10:31 PM


Daley is finished. Lightfoot-Preckwinkle run-off leggo.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on February 26, 2019, 09:11:09 PM


Looks like Lightfoot Vs Periwinkle :)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 09:16:43 PM
Ed Burke needs to once again take up the #resistance mantle against whoever the new extremist mayor is.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Ye We Can on February 26, 2019, 09:17:00 PM

Good. You need multiple parties in a political system--anywhere.

Napolitano isnt a Republican lmao


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on February 26, 2019, 09:31:40 PM
Guys, who else is giddy in here! I sure know I am.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Ed Burke needs to once again take up the #resistance mantle against whoever the new extremist mayor is.

You're disgusting. Harold will be smiling down once that racist is locked up.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:38:36 PM
Moreno is gonna go down! :) :)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 09:44:34 PM
Glad Tom Tunney trounced the Cubs usurpers.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 09:45:09 PM
*laughs in progressive*


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Illiniwek on February 26, 2019, 09:45:51 PM
Harold will be smiling down once that racist is locked up.



Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:46:48 PM
Glad Tom Tunney trounced the Cubs usurpers.

We agree on this


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Strong Candidate on February 26, 2019, 09:47:18 PM
Lori Lightfoot is so good. Be smart Chicago. Make a good decision for once in your life.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 09:48:52 PM
Are there any better sites for results than the Sun Times and Tribune? Both their pages suck.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:51:45 PM
Are there any better sites for results than the Sun Times and Tribune? Both their pages suck.

The official one...

https://chicagoelections.com/index.asp


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:53:12 PM
Burke is going to win without a runoff. Some things never change.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 09:55:05 PM
The 14th Ward will send Ed Burke's corpse to the council.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 09:58:48 PM
One big loss for progressives on the council - Arena is probably finished in the 45th


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on February 26, 2019, 10:01:49 PM
Are there any better sites for results than the Sun Times and Tribune? Both their pages suck.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/elections/results-page/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:02:09 PM
Cannot understate how much Matt Martin is surprising in the 47th ward. He wasn't even predicted to make the runoff - much less be over 40%


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:07:47 PM
Waguespack (influential Lightfoot backer) says he wants Daley instead of Preckwinkle in the runoff in order to show a contrast.

I'd rather get rid of Daley now tbh.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:10:23 PM
Willie Wilson just said, "I believe it has to be Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Muslim, everybody to bring the city together."

....


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 10:10:24 PM
Waguespack (influential Lightfoot backer) says he wants Daley instead of Preckwinkle in the runoff in order to show a contrast.

I'd rather get rid of Daley now tbh.
Yeah, don't want to play with fire.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: _ on February 26, 2019, 10:14:31 PM
Great job for Lightfoot!

I hope Preckwinkle gets crushed in the runoff.  Also, fitting Daley comes third, just like his brother's first run


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:15:46 PM
Great job for Lightfoot!

I hope Preckwinkle gets crushed in the runoff.  Also, fitting Daley comes third, just like his brother's first run

1) It isn't over yet

2) Please don't curse us like that


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:18:27 PM
Lightfoot speaking, declaring victory


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on February 26, 2019, 10:18:50 PM
Patrick Daley Thompson 2023!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:23:27 PM

DFA endorsed


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:29:47 PM
Paul Vallas with an apparent Lightfoot endorsement in his concession speech


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 10:37:51 PM
Lightfoot breaking away from Preckwinkle while Preckwinkle is breaking away from Daley. It's looking more and more Done.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:39:04 PM
Daley concedes!!!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 10:40:30 PM
It's amazing because neither Wilson nor Mendoza straight-up conceded, instead saying they were waiting for absentees.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:46:49 PM
WGN says Daley wasn't in top 3 among black voters and didn't lead Hispanic or white voters. That's the ball game.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:52:13 PM
Race called for LaSpata over Moreno. Huge shocker.

Theme of the night: most wards are moving away from the machine, while a few strongholds are actually more so gravitating toward it


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on February 26, 2019, 10:55:44 PM
WGN says Daley wasn't in top 3 among black voters and didn't lead Hispanic or white voters. That's the ball game.
Yeah WGN said Lightfoot and Daley were running even with white voters, which is shocking.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 10:58:20 PM
WGN says Daley wasn't in top 3 among black voters and didn't lead Hispanic or white voters. That's the ball game.
Yeah WGN said Lightfoot and Daley were running even with white voters, which is shocking.

Not to me. White progressives don't like Daley. They really, really like Lightfoot.

I am one :)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 26, 2019, 10:58:32 PM
WGN says Daley wasn't in top 3 among black voters and didn't lead Hispanic or white voters. That's the ball game.
Yeah WGN said Lightfoot and Daley were running even with white voters, which is shocking.
Exactly what Change Research said!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 11:14:05 PM
Preckwinkle speaking now and already hitting Lightfoot hard. This is why she is so good at what she does.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 11:18:16 PM
And hitting Rahm hard! Getting her revenge, I suppose. They always hated one another.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on February 26, 2019, 11:29:03 PM
Wanted Wilson, ugh. Can't always get what we want, can we.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 11:34:57 PM
City just now releasing the ward results. Lightfoot dominated the north side. Preckwinkle won the nearer south side but Wilson actually won the far south side. Mendoza won most Hispanic areas (telling me low turnout). Daley won the far NW side and downtown.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 26, 2019, 11:40:23 PM
Tribune has the map: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/elections/ct-met-viz-chicago-mayor-election-results-htmlstory.html


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Wanted Wilson, ugh. Can't always get what we want, can we.
Me too bud, me too.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Starry Eyed Jagaloon on February 27, 2019, 12:03:46 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: BundouYMB on February 27, 2019, 12:32:00 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

The top candidates were too effective in nuking each other. Lightfoot never got attacked and had broad appeal to many different demographics.

Unfortunately, Mendoza's campaign was not good at all. Her campaign was light on substance and she focused on attacking Preckwinkle and only switched strategies a week or so before the election, when her campaign was obviously in free fall.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 27, 2019, 12:43:30 AM
Just got back and... HOLY F[inks] LIGHTFOOT WINNING A PLURALITY WITH PRECKWINKLE IN 2ND? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 12:54:09 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

why would you think this


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 27, 2019, 12:55:05 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

why would you think this

This is Blairite you’re talking to.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Starry Eyed Jagaloon on February 27, 2019, 12:55:53 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

why would you think this
She's important, had backing, and a lot of media?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 27, 2019, 01:00:20 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

why would you think this
She's important,
That’s subjective.
Quote
had backing,
So did...most of the other major candidates?

Quote
and a lot of media?
Granted, I haven’t been paying too close attention to this race, but was it really that much more than any of the other candidates?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 01:35:57 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

why would you think this
She's important, had backing, and a lot of media?
evidently not.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 27, 2019, 06:46:23 AM
Yes! No more Daley!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 27, 2019, 06:46:54 AM
I had this creepy dream of Daley and Meldoza going to the runoff


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 27, 2019, 08:39:27 AM
WTF!!!??? I thought Mendoza was a shoe-in, against either Preckwinkle or Daley. What happened, and where did Lightfoot come from?

The top candidates were too effective in nuking each other. Lightfoot never got attacked and had broad appeal to many different demographics.

Unfortunately, Mendoza's campaign was not good at all. Her campaign was light on substance and she focused on attacking Preckwinkle and only switched strategies a week or so before the election, when her campaign was obviously in free fall.

It had more to do with the Burke scandal playing out in the middle of the cycle, imo. The Sun Times endorsement gave her legitimacy, and then she entered the airwaves with a great ad essentially saying "all the candidates leading the polls are friends with Ed Burke, but I am not." North side reformists jumped all over it.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: muon2 on February 27, 2019, 09:40:46 AM
As Mr. Illini has said earlier the neighborhoods split tremendously in this election. Here's the Tribune map of winners by ward.

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Lightfoot carried the progressives on the northern Lakefront, and she was second to Daley in the wealthy Loop, Gold Coast and white ethnic wards. Lightfoot was also second to Preckwinkle along the South Shore and Hyde Park.

Preckwinkle carried the wards of her traditional base in the Near South, South Shore and Hyde Park, and she was second to Wilson throughout the black wards. Preckwinkle also took second to Lightfoot on the Lakefront.

The Latinx wards were split by Mendoza and Chico with Daley in third. Joyce carried the machine wards on the Southwest Side. Neither Lightfoot nor Preckwinkle performed particularly well here. These wards will probably be critical in determining the next mayor in the runoff.

An additional thought: Joyce won the wards that I would have expected to go for Daley. My guess is that without Joyce in the race, Daley would have picked up a good chunk of those votes, and probably would have made the runoff. Then again, those Joyce wards are loaded with police, firefighters and other city workers. They may have felt Daley would be too beholden to business and not enough to their interests, and needed to park their votes somewhere - that happened to be Joyce.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
An additional thought: Joyce won the wards that I would have expected to go for Daley. My guess is that without Joyce in the race, Daley would have picked up a good chunk of those votes, and probably would have made the runoff. Then again, those Joyce wards are loaded with police, firefighters and other city workers. They may have felt Daley would be too beholden to business and not enough to their interests, and needed to park their votes somewhere - that happened to be Joyce.

the quip I saw was "Joyce's platform was 'hands off pensions' and Daley's platform was 'I am going to put my hands on your pensions'"


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on February 27, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
Who is the early favorite to win the Runoff in less than 2 months ?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 27, 2019, 04:28:06 PM
Who is the early favorite to win the Runoff in less than 2 months ?

I think polling has indicated Lightfoot, but not sure.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 27, 2019, 04:53:57 PM
An additional thought: Joyce won the wards that I would have expected to go for Daley. My guess is that without Joyce in the race, Daley would have picked up a good chunk of those votes, and probably would have made the runoff. Then again, those Joyce wards are loaded with police, firefighters and other city workers. They may have felt Daley would be too beholden to business and not enough to their interests, and needed to park their votes somewhere - that happened to be Joyce.

the quip I saw was "Joyce's platform was 'hands off pensions' and Daley's platform was 'I am going to put my hands on your pensions'"

Yep. Daley was the ONLY CANDIDATE who said he'd favor amending the constitution to allow the state and city to reduce pensions of current workers. That's a no-no among city workers, obviously.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on February 27, 2019, 04:55:14 PM
An additional thought: Joyce won the wards that I would have expected to go for Daley. My guess is that without Joyce in the race, Daley would have picked up a good chunk of those votes, and probably would have made the runoff. Then again, those Joyce wards are loaded with police, firefighters and other city workers. They may have felt Daley would be too beholden to business and not enough to their interests, and needed to park their votes somewhere - that happened to be Joyce.

the quip I saw was "Joyce's platform was 'hands off pensions' and Daley's platform was 'I am going to put my hands on your pensions'"

Yep. Daley was the ONLY CANDIDATE who said he'd favor amending the constitution to allow the state and city to reduce pensions of current workers. That's a no-no among city workers, obviously.

Wait, he said that? LOL.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 27, 2019, 06:46:44 PM
Here's the map for Treasurer...

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This really highlights how much higher turnout was in white progressive wards than in minority wards. Pawar was only at 70% in his home ward and only over 60% in one other neighboring ward. Meanwhile, MCE had a swath of wards where she was over 70% and even more over 60%. Yet, they ran even.

There are some interesting trends here as well. Pawar won white progressive wards handily. MCE won black wards handily. However, Latinx and WWC wards were not unified. They were actually split by side of town (though by small margins).

Pawar took Latinx wards on the NW side, but MCE took Latinx on the SW side. Pawar took WWC wards on the NW side, but MCE took WWC wards on the SW side. I attribute this to local politics - Pawar is a north side alderman and MCE's husband is a south side state rep.

It is also worth noting that Peter Gariepy - a candidate who ran no ads - had decently high vote counts in WWC wards on the far NW and SW sides. He was the only white candidate.

Also of note is that Wards 3, 4, and 5 - majority black wards that are wealthier and lean more progressive than the rest of the south side - had relatively close margins. Compare to the rest of the south side that went overwhelmingly for Conyears-Ervin.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 07:43:30 PM
Also of note is that Wards 3, 4, and 5 - majority black wards that are wealthier and lean more progressive than the rest of the south side - had relatively close margins. Compare to the rest of the south side that went overwhelmingly for Conyears-Ervin.

Which may relate to local organizations as much as anything. When I signed for Preckwinkle, the circulator asked me if I'd also signed for "Toni's candidate for Treasurer," meaning Pawar.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2019, 11:32:17 PM
Should I be shocked looking at that map how many Wards Wilson carried?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 27, 2019, 11:50:17 PM
Should I be shocked looking at that map how many Wards Wilson carried?

Not by much. He's got money and a lot of support with the black church (those are all black wards)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: muon2 on February 28, 2019, 12:34:31 AM
Should I be shocked looking at that map how many Wards Wilson carried?

Not by much. He's got money and a lot of support with the black church (those are all black wards)

He also has contacts across the political spectrum and in business as well as in the churches. I've worked with him on a task force and he understands the needs of the black community, but lacks the message to make inroads in other parts of the city.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 28, 2019, 08:40:20 AM
Should I be shocked looking at that map how many Wards Wilson carried?

Not by much. He's got money and a lot of support with the black church (those are all black wards)

He also has contacts across the political spectrum and in business as well as in the churches. I've worked with him on a task force and he understands the needs of the black community, but lacks the message to make inroads in other parts of the city.

I was surprised that he took so many wards from Preckwinkle. Regardless of her waning popularity, she’s still a major force in Cook County and within the black community.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on February 28, 2019, 04:27:52 PM
Who's voters will vote for who now?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on February 28, 2019, 07:37:26 PM

We don't really know. Lightfoot support was strongly correlated with Preckwinkle support, and vice-versa -- Lightfoot was usually second or third in the South Side wards where Preckwinkle was first or second, while Preckwinkle was second or third in Lightfoot's north side wards. The wards that went for other candidates often saw Lightfoot or Preckwinkle finish something like 5th or 6th.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 28, 2019, 08:32:16 PM

We don't really know. Lightfoot support was strongly correlated with Preckwinkle support, and vice-versa -- Lightfoot was usually second or third in the South Side wards where Preckwinkle was first or second, while Preckwinkle was second or third in Lightfoot's north side wards. The wards that went for other candidates often saw Lightfoot or Preckwinkle finish something like 5th or 6th.

If I had to guess, I’d say the bulk of Wilson’s voters will go to Preckwinkle. Although, it’s worth noting that they defected to Wilson in the first round despite Preckwinkle’s support among leaders within the black community. Who is to say they won’t defect again?

I have to think that Daley’s voters downtown and in copland will go to Lightfoot, but that turnout among them will be fairly low.

Where Latinx voters will go is very much up in the air.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 02, 2019, 12:30:39 PM
WBEZ has a great interactive precinct map at the link below. So many news sources are doing our work for us these days.

https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-2019-election-results-map-what-neighborhoods-voted-and-for-whom/ad63ab9e-a924-4155-a3fe-6b7faf1e7812

Lightfoot won my precinct with 31%.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 02, 2019, 10:44:54 PM
my precinct went 35% to Lightfoot, 32% to Preckwinkle, 9% to Enyia, 7% to Wilson. LaShawn Ford beat several of the semi-credible candidates (Joyce, Chico, McCarthy). South Side


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 03, 2019, 12:08:21 PM
One place where the machine still works: the 11th Ward. Despite it being a much more diverse than it used to be, Daley won every single precinct there. Its' borders stand out clearly on the map because of it. Patrick Daley Thompson is the alderman there.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 03, 2019, 05:15:55 PM
Alright guys, who is more progressive?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 03, 2019, 09:45:40 PM

Seems to be the big question lol


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on March 03, 2019, 09:49:10 PM
Extremely surprising to see 1) Ramirez-Rosa endorsing Preckwinkle and 2) Preckwinkle endorsing Bernie.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 03, 2019, 10:50:49 PM
Extremely surprising to see 1) Ramirez-Rosa endorsing Preckwinkle and 2) Preckwinkle endorsing Bernie.

The former isn't that surprising to me. He endorsed her before last Tuesday, likely as the most likely progressive candidate to make the runoff (and as the alternative to Daley). Plus, she is the head of the party, so she got a LOT of endorsements off the bat just because of that.

The latter is just a pander. Preckwinkle endorsed Hillary against Bernie last time around. And she hasn't formally endorsed Sanders this time, and likely won't.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 03, 2019, 11:03:01 PM
CRR's story is that he and Rep. Will Guzzardi met with Preckwinkle and agreed to endorse her after she agreed to a slate of progressive priorities, including TIF reform, a stronger sanctuary city ordinance, and $15/hour. This all happened back in October


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 04, 2019, 12:49:36 PM
john kass has endorsed lightfoot. great news for toni!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Zaybay on March 04, 2019, 01:22:47 PM
We got a poll of the Runoff:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000169-462f-dce6-ad69-67ff9bd90001

from Stand for Children IL

Lightfoot-58%
Periwinkle-30%
Undecided-12%


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: ON Progressive on March 04, 2019, 01:28:26 PM
We got a poll of the Runoff:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000169-462f-dce6-ad69-67ff9bd90001

from Stand for Children IL

Lightfoot-58%
Periwinkle-30%
Undecided-12%

Nice!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on March 04, 2019, 02:37:41 PM
We got a poll of the Runoff:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000169-462f-dce6-ad69-67ff9bd90001

from Stand for Children IL

Lightfoot-58%
Periwinkle-30%
Undecided-12%

I love it. I hope that's the margin. That would be a huge blow to the machine.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 04, 2019, 03:09:40 PM
Stand for Children tossing in with Lightfoot is... yikes


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on March 04, 2019, 03:52:39 PM
Stand for Children tossing in with Lightfoot is... yikes

Why yikes?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 04, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
Stand for Children is a front group funded by the usual suspects -- the Waltons, the Gates and, closer to home, the Crowns, the Pritzkers, and the Kenneth C. Griffin. It exists to break unions.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 07, 2019, 08:53:38 AM
First debate happening tonight at 6pm on NBC5

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/chicago-mayor-debate-watch-live-506759251.html

Second was scheduled for tomorrow, hosted by the Sun Times, but Preckwinkle backed out (the ed board endorsed Lightfoot)

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/sun-times-cancels-mayoral-debate-preckwinkle-noncommittal-lightfoot/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 07, 2019, 06:28:57 PM
I dont like Lori’s transportation policy.  Its all about buses, not innovative.  I hate BRT.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on March 07, 2019, 06:34:15 PM
I dont like Lori’s transportation policy.  Its all about buses, not innovative.  I hate BRT.
So are you voting for Toni?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 07, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
We're only about a week in and I am already so worn out from this runoff


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 07, 2019, 10:48:39 PM
In the first debate, Preckwinkle was asked about backing of Berrios, alliance with Burke, and hiring Burke's son to patronage job. She deflects by saying that when she talks to people, they want to talk about their own neighborhoods.

This is exactly the type of maneuvering that has allowed the corruption to reign in this city for so long. As long as the streets are clean, snow plowed, garbage picked up, the leaders get to do what they want and will continue to get re-elected.

Preckwinkle's responses on corruption and efficiency in city government put such a horrible taste in my mouth.

Like I said, I'm already feeling pretty worn out.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 07, 2019, 11:11:20 PM
what a dumb and boring debate. Toni Preckwinkle says she's a "real Chicagoan" because she's a Sox fan and likes the lake, as if she hasn't lived here since the 60s. I forget what song Lightfoot likes but I don't really care. Just a random string of questions with questionable relevance, and the moderators pressed them on nothing.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 08, 2019, 12:53:26 AM
I dont like Lori’s transportation policy.  Its all about buses, not innovative.  I hate BRT.
So are you voting for Toni?

No, I am leaning towards Lori.  Both are horrible - I predict record low turnout in this runoff.  300,00 or less.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 08, 2019, 12:55:16 AM
Is LightFoot a White Sox fan too?  The city always does better under Mayors who are Sox fans, not suprisingly.  I'm glad to hear that Toni is a Sox fan, means a lot!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 08, 2019, 02:08:36 AM
Is LightFoot a White Sox fan too?  The city always does better under Mayors who are Sox fans, not suprisingly.  I'm glad to hear that Toni is a Sox fan, means a lot!

Yes, Lightfoot's a season ticket holder. I did appreciate the realization that, no matter who wins, at least we've avoided the nightmare scenario: a Cubs fan as mayor.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 08, 2019, 08:43:40 AM
I dont like Lori’s transportation policy.  Its all about buses, not innovative.  I hate BRT.
So are you voting for Toni?

No, I am leaning towards Lori.  Both are horrible - I predict record low turnout in this runoff.  300,00 or less.

Most Chicago voters aren't like you, Green Line


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: RedPrometheus on March 08, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
I dont like Lori’s transportation policy.  Its all about buses, not innovative.  I hate BRT.
So are you voting for Toni?

No, I am leaning towards Lori.  Both are horrible - I predict record low turnout in this runoff.  300,00 or less.

Why are both horrible?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 08, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
what a dumb and boring debate. Toni Preckwinkle says she's a "real Chicagoan" because she's a Sox fan and likes the lake, as if she hasn't lived here since the 60s. I forget what song Lightfoot likes but I don't really care. Just a random string of questions with questionable relevance, and the moderators pressed them on nothing.

The worst part was the discussion about traffic annoyances. And then to try to follow it up with a question about whether police should be diverted to address the traffic annoyances. Bizarre and unproductive segment.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 08, 2019, 11:55:13 AM
Willie Wilson endorses Light FOOT.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/elections/ct-met-chicago-mayors-race-willie-wilson-endorsement-20190308-story.html

This ballgame is ova.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 08, 2019, 01:06:24 PM
Willie Wilson endorses Light FOOT.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/elections/ct-met-chicago-mayors-race-willie-wilson-endorsement-20190308-story.html

This ballgame is ova.

Father Pfleger gave an apparent endorsement on Facebook as well.

Those two carry massive weight in the black community.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 08, 2019, 04:23:43 PM
Has Mendoza endorsed anybody ?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 08, 2019, 06:42:23 PM
Willie Wilson endorses Light FOOT.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/elections/ct-met-chicago-mayors-race-willie-wilson-endorsement-20190308-story.html

This ballgame is ova.

Father Pfleger gave an apparent endorsement on Facebook as well.

Those two carry massive weight in the black community.

Pfleger’s Facebook page confirmed he’s endorsing Lightfoot. Latino Leadership Council also announced endorsement of Lightfoot.

What a week for her campaign.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 08, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
After a surprising first round, the race becomes a slow burner with Lori Lightfoot just gathering endorsement after endorsement. The best thing that makes up for an easy race is that Mayor Lightfoot will have a very smooth transition to power, having the people’s support over the remaining dump of the local machine. I’m still at awe how something like this could be possible, especially with historically terrible turnout across the board.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 08, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
I’m still at awe how something like this could be possible, especially with historically terrible turnout across the board.

wouldn't you think low turnout would favor the candidate preferred by the groups with the highest turnout rates (ie white liberals)?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 08, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
I’m still at awe how something like this could be possible, especially with historically terrible turnout across the board.

wouldn't you think low turnout would favor the candidate preferred by the groups with the highest turnout rates (ie white liberals)?
I guess, I thought that Conservatives would push it to be a Lightfoot v.s. Daley race.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 08, 2019, 07:43:29 PM
I’m still at awe how something like this could be possible, especially with historically terrible turnout across the board.

wouldn't you think low turnout would favor the candidate preferred by the groups with the highest turnout rates (ie white liberals)?
I guess, I thought that Conservatives would push it to be a Lightfoot v.s. Daley race.

There aren't very many conservatives. The fact is that Rahm won a lot of white liberal votes both times.

Daley had no path if he wasn't going to win with Latinx voters or white north siders. Add to it that he didn't even lock down the GIVEN - the far NW and SW sides. Joyce took a lot of those voters.

A true Jeb-like collapse.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on March 08, 2019, 08:02:23 PM
I’m still at awe how something like this could be possible, especially with historically terrible turnout across the board.

wouldn't you think low turnout would favor the candidate preferred by the groups with the highest turnout rates (ie white liberals)?
I guess, I thought that Conservatives would push it to be a Lightfoot v.s. Daley race.

There aren't very many conservatives. The fact is that Rahm won a lot of white liberal votes both times.

Daley had no path if he wasn't going to win with Latinx voters or white north siders. Add to it that he didn't even lock down the GIVEN - the far NW and SW sides. Joyce took a lot of those voters.

A true Jeb-like collapse.
He spent almost double what the next highest candidate spent.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 10, 2019, 10:49:23 AM
Debate schedule set...

March 20: ABC

March 21: WTTW

March 25: WGN

March 26: FOX

March 27: CBS

Additionally, the Tribune E Board will interview the candidates on March 12 and WBEZ will host a debate on March 29.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 10, 2019, 03:39:13 PM
believe this is twice as many as Pritzker and Rauner did


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 10, 2019, 04:33:31 PM
I'm wondering if whoever wins the Runoff will be a 1-termer or 2-termer based on age ?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 10, 2019, 04:57:48 PM
I'm wondering if whoever wins the Runoff will be a 1-termer or 2-termer based on age ?

I’ve heard a lot of discussion that Preckwinkle could be a one-term we because of age. She had signaled that she could be close to retirement before Rahm announced he wouldn’t run again. Many view this as her last term as President if she loses in April.

For Lightfoot, she has proposed a two-term limit for the mayor, so she’d have to make a decision were she in a position of running or not after two terms. Age isn’t as big of a factor - she’s a lot younger.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 11, 2019, 09:58:06 AM
Another notable endorsement for Lightfoot: progressive State Rep. Kelly Cassidy (Edgewater, Rogers Park)

Cassidy has been a tacit Madigan opponent and is known around here for her work on cannabis legalization and criminal justice reform.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Strong Candidate on March 11, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 11, 2019, 10:57:22 AM
So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?
Sposato and Napolitano would endorse Satan if IAFF Local 2 did too


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 11, 2019, 11:12:40 AM
So, is there any particular reason why Sposato and Napolitano are backing Lightfoot? Are they just trying to get behind the likely winner so that they can form a good working relationship with her?
Sposato and Napolitano would endorse Satan if IAFF Local 2 did too

Yeah, it’s because the Firefighters union is, which they are a part of.

Also, tbh, I expect Lightfoot to do well in their areas, WWC with a strong police/fire presence. This has little to do with what Lori actually stands for and everything to do with their long-standing dislike of Toni. Turnout will probably be low there, though.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 12, 2019, 06:01:19 PM
Painters District Council 14: Mendoza --> Preckwinkle
Plumbers Local 130: Daley --> Lightfoot
Personal PAC (abortions rights group): No endorsement --> Preckwinkle
Paul Vallas: Vallas --> Lightfoot

does not help the narrative of Lightfoot as the more progressive candidate


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 13, 2019, 09:32:53 AM
Painters District Council 14: Mendoza --> Preckwinkle
Plumbers Local 130: Daley --> Lightfoot
Personal PAC (abortions rights group): No endorsement --> Preckwinkle
Paul Vallas: Vallas --> Lightfoot

does not help the narrative of Lightfoot as the more progressive candidate

Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Lightfoot has a list of progressive endorsers as you know: David Orr, Scott Waguespack, Kelly Cassidy, Litesa Wallace, Robin Kelly, Democracy for America


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 13, 2019, 12:51:17 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 13, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Preckwinkle said at the same forum that she is not opposed to a new training facility and would also focus on re-purposing current buildings.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 05:52:19 PM
LIUNA endorses Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/liunachicago/status/1106284568393453569?s=21


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 14, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
Gery Chico for Lightfoot, making it even more obvious why the progressive unions went with Preckwinkle — and giving her the endorsement, by proxy, of Ed Burke.

Teamsters Joint Council 25 for Preckwinkle today. She also spent the day on the picket line at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, where the Chicago Federation of Musicians is currently on strike.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 14, 2019, 06:29:07 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 14, 2019, 06:29:29 PM
Lightfoot will govern just as Rahm has contrary to her "anti-machine" posturing.

That's the hope.  Enough with the pandering.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 09:45:42 PM
Gery Chico for Lightfoot, making it even more obvious why the progressive unions went with Preckwinkle — and giving her the endorsement, by proxy, of Ed Burke.

Teamsters Joint Council 25 for Preckwinkle today. She also spent the day on the picket line at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, where the Chicago Federation of Musicians is currently on strike.

Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 14, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.

Burke endorsed Chico, Chico endorsed Lightfoot. Not hard to follow -- and if you can't see that she's getting the support of every single conservative element in the city, well...


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 14, 2019, 10:19:13 PM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 14, 2019, 10:22:37 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 11:02:44 PM
Good one. Burke didn’t raise $116,000 for Lightfoot.

Burke endorsed Chico, Chico endorsed Lightfoot. Not hard to follow -- and if you can't see that she's getting the support of every single conservative element in the city, well...

The idea that Burke has anything to do with this is really a stretch. Trying to forget Toni’s coziness with Burke and Berrios?

A much more distant connection than Burke endorsing Preckwinkle for her prior (current) office and raising $116,000 for her, wouldn’t you say?

I’ve actually seen Preckwinkle folks defending Berrios over the last several weeks as well, which tells you all you need to know about whether any lessons have been learned.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 11:09:03 PM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Oryxslayer on March 14, 2019, 11:14:01 PM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

It won't end up mattering. Chicago swallows aspiring politicians and transforms them into machine or parochial tools. I suspect whoever who wins will become a 'establishment tool' by next mayoral election.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 14, 2019, 11:21:58 PM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.
Look at it this way, if she was misleading people on this, she could be on other major planks. Just look at how she supported the continuation of a pro-cop official and the support for that police academy. I’m just saying this race has become incredibly nuanced over who is better than who.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on March 14, 2019, 11:25:01 PM
Yeah I’m not so sure how I feel about this race anymore.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 14, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?

I support Democrats that believe in a system of law and order, just as the majority of Chicagoans do.  The people who are actually affected be violence, and don't live in a Hyde Park bubble, take these issues seriously.  This is why Lori is now shifting and why every mayor has in the past.  Cute slogans about punishing the police can only get you so far - its not your city.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 11:41:01 PM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?

This is a manufactured issue. Preckwinkle would’ve taken every dime of it if it had gone her way. It says nothing about Lightfoot’s stance on money in politics, not that she’ll be in a position to make decisions on the laws around that anyway.

It’s ironic that the Preckwinkle folks would be critical of it, too, considering she has raked in millions upon millions more in high dollar contributions than Lightfoot has.
Look at it this way, if she was misleading people on this, she could be on other major planks. Just look at how she supported the continuation of a pro-cop official and the support for that police academy. I’m just saying this race has become incredibly nuanced over who is better than who.

Critiquing her on the comments regarding the cop academy is fair and I share your concern.

Critiquing her on the PAC contribution is a nothing-burger. She didn’t mislead on anything. She never pledged not to take this kind of money. The PAC is led by a group of progressive attorneys that have been involved in reformist liberal politics. Huge non-story manufactured by the Preckwinkle camp to try to paint her as accepting Koch money or something.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 14, 2019, 11:50:47 PM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this!  
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?

I support Democrats that believe in a system of law and order, just as the majority of Chicagoans do.  The people who are actually affected be violence, and don't live in a Hyde Park bubble, take these issues seriously.  This is why Lori is now shifting and why every mayor has in the past.  Cute slogans about punishing the police can only get you so far - its not your city.

It’s my city and I’m not with you.

And I know the neighborhood that you live in is even more of a bubble than HP


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 15, 2019, 12:03:21 AM
This race got muddied real fast. Lightfoot got busted for accepting cash from a‘Dark Money’  (https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-mayoral-candidate-lightfoot-got-big-bucks-from-dark-money-group/9df11357-894e-4c97-8854-5d8da0b784c6) group. Who is the actual progressive in this race?
Walking home today, I saw a Preckwinkle sign in the window of a local beauty salon. Saw a Lightfoot sign in the window of a new development where units start for $2800 a month.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 15, 2019, 12:33:08 AM
Is this purporting that the painters are progressive because they endorsed Susana Mendoza?

Don't be a dummy. The plumbers union (and their close relationship with the Daleys) is the reason Chicago has more lead service lines than any other city in the country. Paul Vallas is Paul Vallas. Nothing to do with the painters, they're fairly benign.

Anyway, today Lightfoot said she will retain police superintendent Eddie Johnson, saying she refuses to "pander to the crowds that want him gone.” "The crowds" want Johnson gone because of his history of justifying police misconduct (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/14/chicago-police-department-superintendent-eddie-johnson/). She also said she opposes the proposal for a new police academy (the $95 million contract just passed City Council today) because she wants a much larger police academy similar to NYC's $750 million center, which would also be used to train state-level officers. She also said she wants more training locations, proposing to turn 38 of the schools Rahm closed into police training facilities.

Wow, love this! 
Why are you a Democrat again? I would expect you’d be more at home with the blue fascists that protect you position than be a Democrat, at least nationally?

I support Democrats that believe in a system of law and order, just as the majority of Chicagoans do.  The people who are actually affected be violence, and don't live in a Hyde Park bubble, take these issues seriously.  This is why Lori is now shifting and why every mayor has in the past.  Cute slogans about punishing the police can only get you so far - its not your city.
The Academy isn’t going to impact jobs, education, nor infrastructure that the community knows fights crime. Instead money is wasted for something that the locals don’t want and know won’t be a positive for their community, just more money for contractors and those employed by patronage.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 15, 2019, 07:50:40 AM
sjoyce certainly isn't wrong about conservatives in the city supporting Lightfoot.

Ald Matt O'Shea (19th) endorses Lightfoot; ally Jerry Joyce expected to do the same

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/19th-ward-committeeman-alderman-matt-oshea-lightfoot-endorse-chicago-mayor-election-2019/

The 19th ward has famously high turnout in elections and O'Shea is extremely popular there. In 2015, Rahm saw a double digit increase in support in the ward between the primary and O'Shea's endorsement prior to the runoff.

O'Shea is no Napolitano/Sposato, though. Lightfoot welcomed his support, unlike the others.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 15, 2019, 09:17:01 AM
I have to say, I don’t know what Preckwinkle is doing to try and win this race.

In the primary, we know that Lightfoot’s base was the north lakefront and near northwest side, and we know that Preckwinkle’s base was on the south lakefront.

Since then, Lightfoot has netted consequential endorsements from Willie Wilson (who won a majority of the black wards on the south and west sides), LLC and Gery Chico (popular in the Latinx community and won those wards against Rahm), and O’Shea/Joyce (who represents/won the WWC wards). That’s pretty much the entire city save the 4 or so wards Preckwinkle won on the south lakefront.

Toni’s not going to win with just Hyde Park, Bronzeville, and Kenwood. She’s got to start making some serious moves if she wants a shot.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 15, 2019, 02:37:26 PM
Our Revolution Chicago endorses Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/ourrevilchicago/status/1106610517039333381?s=21

Wonder how sjoyce will spin this one


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 15, 2019, 02:42:04 PM
Our Revolution Chicago endorses Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/ourrevilchicago/status/1106610517039333381?s=21

Wonder how sjoyce will spin this one

they're a group of irrelevant cranks?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 15, 2019, 02:46:06 PM
Tribune endorses Lightfoot

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-lori-lightfoot-endorsement-chicago-mayor-20190314-story.html

Of course it’s never over til Election Day, but one can’t help but feel like the window is closing for Toni, barring an Obama endorsement or something equivalent in magnitude.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 15, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
100,000 member-strong union endorses Toni Preckwinkle for mayor (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/toni-preckwinkle-adds-teamsters-joint-council-list-union-endorsements/)



Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 15, 2019, 05:31:47 PM
Hearing some progressives push Melissa Conyears Ervin for Treasurer because “if the Trib would endorse Ameya, that means the financial industry isn’t worried about him as Treasurer.”

Classic self-owning Chicago left. Vote for the machine candidate because of a shred of doubt over the clear progressive choice.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 16, 2019, 12:47:50 AM
I fully suppory Melissa Conyears Ervin, even before the Trib endorsed her.  She’s not a politician - no website, no campaign.  Pawar has been running for office since he was born.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 16, 2019, 01:38:46 AM
I was really rooting for a Wilson v. Daley race, that would have been lots of fun lol. This race is pretty boring tbh.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Sestak on March 16, 2019, 02:05:47 AM
I fully suppory Melissa Conyears Ervin, even before the Trib endorsed her.  She’s not a politician - no website, no campaign.  Pawar has been running for office since he was born.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 16, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
I fully suppory Melissa Conyears Ervin, even before the Trib endorsed her.  She’s not a politician - no website, no campaign.  Pawar has been running for office since he was born.

Um...the Trib endorsed Pawar...


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 16, 2019, 09:52:07 AM
is one of Rahm's aldermen really "the clear progressive choice"?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 16, 2019, 10:02:52 AM
is one of Rahm's aldermen really "the clear progressive choice"?

Lol are you really going to vote against both of the candidates at the top of the ticket that you voted for in the first round?

Pawar has opposed Rahm on countless issues of consequence. Are you just saying “Rahm’s alderman” because he lives in the ward?

At some point you’re just being contrarian for the sake of it. This city would be lucky to have Ameya as treasurer.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 16, 2019, 10:10:27 AM
is one of Rahm's aldermen really "the clear progressive choice"?

Pawar has opposed Rahm on countless issues of consequence. Are you just saying “Rahm’s alderman” because he lives in the ward?

lmao no he hasn't. he talks a good game -- which puts him ahead of conyears-ervin, who hasn't bothered to try -- but there's no reason to believe he's chicago next great progressive leader


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 16, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
On a somewhat related note...

Best vote I ever took. Chicago politics was good for once. Too bad Toni wasn’t with me.

I’m sure sjoyce would turn on him in favor of Berrios because “what progressive things has Fritz ever done?”

https://news.wttw.com/2019/03/12/cook-county-assessor-fritz-kaegi-pushes-more-reform?fbclid=IwAR1CaOLM3xCZfoZS-aKph1SMyCXTq0BEx0-MlQNWgaqyifrsyoo79P2njIg


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 16, 2019, 09:38:04 PM
lmao, the election has broken your brain. sad!

for the record, i made calls and voted for fritz. he is an oak park resident who did some sort of bank thing before running for office. nice background that, unlike certain other candidates, did not involve being one of rahm's most reliable votes on city council. or being a cop.

anyway, voted today for toni, pawar, and hairston -- that last one solely because she does not believe hurricanes are caused by gay marriage


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Continential on March 16, 2019, 10:11:41 PM
that last one solely because she does not believe hurricanes are caused by gay marriage/quote]


Yikes


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 16, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
lmao, the election has broken your brain. sad!

for the record, i made calls and voted for fritz. he is an oak park resident who did some sort of bank thing before running for office. nice background that, unlike certain other candidates, did not involve being one of rahm's most reliable votes on city council. or being a cop.

anyway, voted today for toni, pawar, and hairston -- that last one solely because she does not believe hurricanes are caused by gay marriage

Actually, some progressives did turn on Fritz because he was a “wealthy banker” before running for assessor.

This election really has broken my brain, though. I’d almost have rather had Daley in the runoff so it wouldn’t have been a bunch of progressive infighting. I can’t take it. Was a little tipsy when I posted that earlier, though. :)


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 16, 2019, 11:15:15 PM
Actually, some progressives did turn on Fritz because he was a “wealthy banker” before running for assessor.

This election really has broken my brain, though. I’d almost have rather had Daley in the runoff so it wouldn’t have been a bunch of progressive infighting. I can’t take it. Was a little tipsy when I posted that earlier, though. :)
I saw a handful, but very few -- think that attack fell flat with most. Helps that he did some sort of "investment assessing" work, which comes off as technical and morally neutral.

And yeah, April 2 can't come soon enough. Still, today's a holiday!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 17, 2019, 08:04:34 AM
Chuy Garcia to endorse Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/maryannahernnbc/status/1107254479525695490?s=21

That is a huge one.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 17, 2019, 09:14:20 AM
Chuy Garcia to endorse Lightfoot

https://twitter.com/maryannahernnbc/status/1107254479525695490?s=21

That is a huge one.

Big question is whether Lightfoot wins in massive landslide  ?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 17, 2019, 10:41:16 AM
I was talking to a few friends on election night, and said that Chuy (more than Mendoza or Chico) would be the real kingmaker, as neither of the runoff candidates had any significant inroads in the Mexican community. I also mentioned that Chuy had gone to Toni before the runoff in 2015, to ask for her endorsement -- thinking that if she endorsed him, he'd peel off just enough black votes to beat Rahm (probably correct). She said no. Chuy, of course, now had an opportunity to avenge that by knifing Preckwinkle in the runoff, and it seems he is taking advantage of that.

Big question is whether Lightfoot wins in massive landslide  ?
Think it's a fairly obvious "yes" at this point, which is why you see pols scrambling to endorse the next mayor


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 17, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
I see Garcia has a Vendetta against Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on March 17, 2019, 10:51:06 PM
Why did it have to come down to these people, out of all that were running.

I wanted Wilson, or Joyce at least. Even Daley would be acceptable. But it had to come down to my least favorite candidates.

I'm staying home for the second round.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 18, 2019, 07:03:44 AM
Why did it have to come down to these people, out of all that were running.

I wanted Wilson, or Joyce at least. Even Daley would be acceptable. But it had to come down to my least favorite candidates.

I'm staying home for the second round.

Lol ok. People like them have been mayor for the last 30 years. Time for something new.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 18, 2019, 08:41:37 AM
I had a discussion over the candidates with a close friend, and he came up with several good points as to why Toni Preckwinkle is a safer choice for mayor. He says the coalesceing endorsements and anti-establishment sentiment around the Lightfoot campaign reminds him of Blagojevich’s early campaign for governor in 2002. Now I wasn’t aware much at the time, nor of the mood of the general situation, but the thought is a scary one. Perhaps sticking with the devil we all know is a safer bet, lest we end up with a wildcard mayoralship?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on March 18, 2019, 08:46:25 AM
Why did it have to come down to these people, out of all that were running.

I wanted Wilson, or Joyce at least. Even Daley would be acceptable. But it had to come down to my least favorite candidates.

I'm staying home for the second round.

Lol ok. People like them have been mayor for the last 30 years. Time for something new.

Nah


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 18, 2019, 09:44:20 AM
I had a discussion over the candidates with a close friend, and he came up with several good points as to why Toni Preckwinkle is a safer choice for mayor. He says the coalesceing endorsements and anti-establishment sentiment around the Lightfoot campaign reminds him of Blagojevich’s early campaign for governor in 2002. Now I wasn’t aware much at the time, nor of the mood of the general situation, but the thought is a scary one. Perhaps sticking with the devil we all know is a safer bet, lest we end up with a wildcard mayoralship?

Certainly not defending Blagojevich’s actions, which were illegal and unethical, but your friend should know that Blago was just the idiot that got caught. Madigan, Burke, Vrdolyak, Berrios, etc etc, all of whom are closely allied with Toni Preckwinkle, have done just as much if not worse than Blago did. Blago did it without the smarts and the protection, so he went to prison.

They’ve all just barely skirted jail time due to technicalities and toeing the line. Thankfully it looks like Burke and Vrdolyak’s time are finally coming to roost, though Lord knows shaking down a Burger King is the least of Burke’s sins in his long career.

So while there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Lightfoot would engage in the corruption that Blago did, there is evidence that Preckwinkle could get away with it if she did, based on the people that she has surrounded herself with.

Not to mention the fact that she has no ethics reform plan available on her website and she does not favor limiting aldermanic privilege nor aldermanic and mayoral term limits. Lightfoot favors both and has a comprehensive ethics reform plan.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 18, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
I had a discussion over the candidates with a close friend, and he came up with several good points as to why Toni Preckwinkle is a safer choice for mayor. He says the coalesceing endorsements and anti-establishment sentiment around the Lightfoot campaign reminds him of Blagojevich’s early campaign for governor in 2002. Now I wasn’t aware much at the time, nor of the mood of the general situation, but the thought is a scary one. Perhaps sticking with the devil we all know is a safer bet, lest we end up with a wildcard mayoralship?

Certainly not defending Blagojevich’s actions, which were illegal and unethical, but your friend should know that Blago was just the idiot that got caught. Madigan, Burke, Vrdolyak, Berrios, etc etc, all of whom are closely allied with Toni Preckwinkle, have done just as much if not worse than Blago did. Blago did it without the smarts and the protection, so he went to prison.

They’ve all just barely skirted jail time due to technicalities and toeing the line. Thankfully it looks like Burke and Vrdolyak’s time are finally coming to roost, though Lord knows shaking down a Burger King is the least of Burke’s sins in his long career.

So while there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Lightfoot would engage in the corruption that Blago did, there is evidence that Preckwinkle could get away with it if she did, based on the people that she has surrounded herself with.

Not to mention the fact that she has no ethics reform plan available on her website and she does not favor limiting aldermanic privilege nor aldermanic and mayoral term limits. Lightfoot favors both and has a comprehensive ethics reform plan.
It does seem unlikely, yes. But there could also be a possibility for her to disregard her campaign promises and start aligning with Burke & Co. She didn’t disregard and deny the endorsements of Gery Chico and O’Shea, famed Machine politicians. I’m just saying be prepared for anything with her.

Meanwhile, on election news, Loghtfoot hit with liens for unpaid taxes (https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/lori-lighfoot-sneed-unpaid-taxes-lien/). This could be extremely damaging for her anti-corruption image.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 18, 2019, 11:49:40 AM
I had a discussion over the candidates with a close friend, and he came up with several good points as to why Toni Preckwinkle is a safer choice for mayor. He says the coalesceing endorsements and anti-establishment sentiment around the Lightfoot campaign reminds him of Blagojevich’s early campaign for governor in 2002. Now I wasn’t aware much at the time, nor of the mood of the general situation, but the thought is a scary one. Perhaps sticking with the devil we all know is a safer bet, lest we end up with a wildcard mayoralship?

Certainly not defending Blagojevich’s actions, which were illegal and unethical, but your friend should know that Blago was just the idiot that got caught. Madigan, Burke, Vrdolyak, Berrios, etc etc, all of whom are closely allied with Toni Preckwinkle, have done just as much if not worse than Blago did. Blago did it without the smarts and the protection, so he went to prison.

They’ve all just barely skirted jail time due to technicalities and toeing the line. Thankfully it looks like Burke and Vrdolyak’s time are finally coming to roost, though Lord knows shaking down a Burger King is the least of Burke’s sins in his long career.

So while there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Lightfoot would engage in the corruption that Blago did, there is evidence that Preckwinkle could get away with it if she did, based on the people that she has surrounded herself with.

Not to mention the fact that she has no ethics reform plan available on her website and she does not favor limiting aldermanic privilege nor aldermanic and mayoral term limits. Lightfoot favors both and has a comprehensive ethics reform plan.
It does seem unlikely, yes. But there could also be a possibility for her to disregard her campaign promises and start aligning with Burke & Co. She didn’t disregard and deny the endorsements of Gery Chico and O’Shea, famed Machine politicians. I’m just saying be prepared for anything with her.

Meanwhile, on election news, Loghtfoot hit with liens for unpaid taxes (https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/lori-lighfoot-sneed-unpaid-taxes-lien/). This could be extremely damaging for her anti-corruption image.

Sure, there is an element of the unknown on Lightfoot since she has never been an elected official before. That said, we already know that Preckwinkle is closely allied with all of the worst elements of Chicago politics. Ed Burke raised $116,000 for her re-election, for cryin’ out loud. And never forget that she wouldn’t even put Fritz Kaegi on the Party’s November sample ballot after he beat Joe Berrios.

As for the liens, I think it’s a non-story. I don’t see how it is relevant to her anti-corruption image. The Sun Times also did a story this morning on domestic disputes at Preckwinkle’s condo (where her son lives) that I think is a non-story as well. However, the story about Toni did explain how her son has been charged several times and always gotten off with a presiding judge that was a Preckwinkle ally. Welcome to Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 18, 2019, 05:08:16 PM
Why did it have to come down to these people, out of all that were running.

I wanted Wilson, or Joyce at least. Even Daley would be acceptable. But it had to come down to my least favorite candidates.

I'm staying home for the second round.
Wilson was awesome dude, but he was pretty racially divisive IMO. Personally, I would have been a tossup between Daley and Joyce.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on March 18, 2019, 11:28:57 PM
I find it hilarious that Jenaette Taylor stole Bobby Jindal's logo

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Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 19, 2019, 08:46:47 AM
Someone is distributing hateful leaflets on cars outside of black churches

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/18/anti-gay-flyers-in-chicago-mayors-race/


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on March 19, 2019, 09:16:27 AM
I find it hilarious that Jenaette Taylor stole Bobby Jindal's logo

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Pathetic. Well, it's not like Bobby Jindal has anything to lose anymore.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 20, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Rep. Danny K. Davis endorsed Preckwinkle just recently on her being the most experienced candidate to run the city. In the endorsement he highlights that while Lightfoot isn’t a bad pick, she has never been elected to office, and doesn’t know how to properly handle the pension crisis.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 20, 2019, 12:18:45 PM
Preckwinkle has pulled her ads. Feels like it's over


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 20, 2019, 12:49:30 PM
Preckwinkle has pulled her ads. Feels like it's over

Yep. The questions is, though - what does she want to save the money for? The consensus seems to be that this is her last term as President. Saving it to dump off to Foxx and other allies (like Rahm has done)? I hope so, since the regressives seem to have it out for Foxx in 2020.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 20, 2019, 07:55:12 PM
Chance the Rapper will hold a press conference on the mayoral race tomorrow

https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/status/1108512523572166658

My gut tells me he'll endorse Toni.

Toni lands endorsement of Patrick Daley Thompson

https://twitter.com/MaryAnnAhernNBC/status/1108531315144568833

Yuck - though, Lori has had her share of "yuck" endorsements, too


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 20, 2019, 08:49:38 PM
Is the African-American vote going to probably be in the Preckwinkle camp, or is it a tossup with Willie’s endorsement of Lightfoot?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Green Line on March 20, 2019, 11:56:48 PM
Patrick "Daley" Thompson would have his grandpa turning in his grave.  What a shame!


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 21, 2019, 12:22:26 AM
Patrick "Daley" Thompson would have his grandpa turning in his grave.  What a shame!

Eh, if they pull this off, I think Richard J. would be a little impressed. Until recently, if the County Presidency is vacant (as it would be if Preckwinkle wins), it automatically passes to the President pro tem, currently Deborah Sims. In December, the county changed the law so that the board would pick a new President from among its members.

The ordinance making the change was sponsored by John P. Daley, who's been on the board long enough and has enough friends that he should be a shoo-in for the Presidency — if Preckwinkle vacates it. Admittedly, it's not the Mayor's job, but with Bill out of the race, it's not a bad consolation prize.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 07:03:16 AM
Patrick "Daley" Thompson would have his grandpa turning in his grave.  What a shame!

Eh, if they pull this off, I think Richard J. would be a little impressed. Until recently, if the County Presidency is vacant (as it would be if Preckwinkle wins), it automatically passes to the President pro tem, currently Deborah Sims. In December, the county changed the law so that the board would pick a new President from among its members.

The ordinance making the change was sponsored by John P. Daley, who's been on the board long enough and has enough friends that he should be a shoo-in for the Presidency — if Preckwinkle vacates it. Admittedly, it's not the Mayor's job, but with Bill out of the race, it's not a bad consolation prize.

Even more yuck. Thanks for this - I didn't realize.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 07:04:35 AM
Is the African-American vote going to probably be in the Preckwinkle camp, or is it a tossup with Willie’s endorsement of Lightfoot?

I anticipate that Toni will still take the black wards, but that it will be closer due to Wilson's endorsement.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 07:38:47 AM
Todd Stroger endorses Preckwinkle. Talk about full circle.

Angling for an appointment, or hoping to run for his old seat and needing her out of the way?


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 21, 2019, 12:54:35 PM
Todd Stroger endorses Preckwinkle. Talk about full circle.

Speaking of full circle...

Rumblings of OBAMA for Preckwinkle soon -- Jarrett, Tchen, Bennett pressuring him to endorse. Preckwinkle notably endorsed him in his first bid for State Senator and his doomed race against Bobby Rush in 2000, so this would be returning the favor.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 03:22:11 PM
Todd Stroger endorses Preckwinkle. Talk about full circle.

Speaking of full circle...

Rumblings of OBAMA for Preckwinkle soon -- Jarrett, Tchen, Bennett pressuring him to endorse. Preckwinkle notably endorsed him in his first bid for State Senator and his doomed race against Bobby Rush in 2000, so this would be returning the favor.

I’ve heard that Preckwinkle folks are reaching out, but not heard any rumors he has decided to do so.

Remember, they had a falling out much later, around the time he decided to run for Prez. He did endorse her for President last year, though.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 21, 2019, 03:23:24 PM
 
Is the African-American vote going to probably be in the Preckwinkle camp, or is it a tossup with Willie’s endorsement of Lightfoot?

I anticipate that Toni will still take the black wards, but that it will be closer due to Wilson's endorsement.
Indeed he did. (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chance-the-rapper-toni-preckwinkle-endorsement-chicago-mayoral-election-runoff/)

Even still, it will take Obama’s nomination to push Toni Preckwinkle’s campaign in her favor, much less a tossup. I’m just dying to see a poll if this all unravels this late in the race, what an epic climax from the boring middle-end.


Title: Re: Chicago Mayoral 2019 - Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 03:48:11 PM
An Obama spokesperson says they will not be endorsing a candidate

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/obama-preckwinkle-endorsement-chicago-mayor-507462651.html


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 21, 2019, 04:02:17 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on March 21, 2019, 06:37:49 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.

that demographic or the election?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 21, 2019, 07:07:18 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.

that demographic or the election?
that demographic, the election seems all but wrapped up for Lori, no?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 07:15:07 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.

that demographic or the election?
that demographic, the election seems all but wrapped up for Lori, no?

That has been the consensus. Obama's endorsement could undo that, but it sounds like that isn't happening.

However, if Preckwinkle wins Latinx voters, as you suggest, she just might win. A victory for Lori would be really tough if she doesn't have black or Latinx wards.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 21, 2019, 07:21:40 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.

that demographic or the election?
that demographic, the election seems all but wrapped up for Lori, no?

That has been the consensus. Obama's endorsement could undo that, but it sounds like that isn't happening.

However, if Preckwinkle wins Latinx voters, as you suggest, she just might win. A victory for Lori would be really tough if she doesn't have black or Latinx wards.
Not necessarily, IMO. I think the runoff will look very similar to the Conyears-Erwin v. Pawar race in March, except Toni does much worse in black wards and northern wards, resulting in a narrower than expected but still convincing 59-41 loss.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 21, 2019, 08:57:24 PM
So, how is the Latino vote gonna go? Lightfoot seems to have gotten the important endorsements, but I have a feeling Preckwinkle ends up taking it narrowly.

that demographic or the election?
that demographic, the election seems all but wrapped up for Lori, no?

That has been the consensus. Obama's endorsement could undo that, but it sounds like that isn't happening.

However, if Preckwinkle wins Latinx voters, as you suggest, she just might win. A victory for Lori would be really tough if she doesn't have black or Latinx wards.
Not necessarily, IMO. I think the runoff will look very similar to the Conyears-Erwin v. Pawar race in March, except Toni does much worse in black wards and northern wards, resulting in a narrower than expected but still convincing 59-41 loss.

Kind of like the Kaegi/Berrios map - thin Berrios margins in black and Latinx wards and huge Kaegi margins in white wards = Kaegi wins.

Maybe.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 22, 2019, 05:19:23 PM
Another former mayoral candidate for Lightfoot (though he didn’t make the ballot).

Activist Ja’mal Green endorsed this afternoon. Said it’s the right time for Lightfoot and likes her policy proposals. Also noted that having her as Mayor and Toni as President is a win-win.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 22, 2019, 05:32:09 PM
Another former mayoral candidate for Lightfoot (though he didn’t make the ballot).

Activist Ja’mal Green endorsed this afternoon. Said it’s the right time for Lightfoot and likes her policy proposals. Also noted that having her as Mayor and Toni as President is a win-win.
Has Daley made an endorsement?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 22, 2019, 06:04:37 PM
Another former mayoral candidate for Lightfoot (though he didn’t make the ballot).

Activist Ja’mal Green endorsed this afternoon. Said it’s the right time for Lightfoot and likes her policy proposals. Also noted that having her as Mayor and Toni as President is a win-win.
Has Daley made an endorsement?
No, but Bill is Bill. The Daleys that matter have endorsed Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 22, 2019, 06:43:42 PM
Another former mayoral candidate for Lightfoot (though he didn’t make the ballot).

Activist Ja’mal Green endorsed this afternoon. Said it’s the right time for Lightfoot and likes her policy proposals. Also noted that having her as Mayor and Toni as President is a win-win.
Has Daley made an endorsement?
No, but Bill is Bill. The Daleys that matter have endorsed Preckwinkle.
Richard Daley did? Have to imagine that would have been a bigger deal.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 22, 2019, 07:52:05 PM
No, but Bill is Bill. The Daleys that matter have endorsed Preckwinkle.
Richard Daley did? Have to imagine that would have been a bigger deal.
Richard Daley died in 1976. Rich Daley hasn't been seen in this town in years. Again, the Daleys that actually matter -- the ones who command votes -- have endorsed Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 22, 2019, 08:10:14 PM
No, but Bill is Bill. The Daleys that matter have endorsed Preckwinkle.
Richard Daley did? Have to imagine that would have been a bigger deal.
Richard Daley died in 1976. Rich Daley hasn't been seen in this town in years. Again, the Daleys that actually matter -- the ones who command votes -- have endorsed Preckwinkle.
I was talking about jr.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 22, 2019, 08:23:32 PM
Richard Daley died in 1976. Rich Daley hasn't been seen in this town in years. Again, the Daleys that actually matter -- the ones who command votes -- have endorsed Preckwinkle.
I was talking about jr.
He does some sort of lobbying/law thing now? Theoretically has a speaking gig here fairly regularly, but I've never seen him. He is thoroughly out of politics.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 22, 2019, 10:34:51 PM
Richard Daley died in 1976. Rich Daley hasn't been seen in this town in years. Again, the Daleys that actually matter -- the ones who command votes -- have endorsed Preckwinkle.
I was talking about jr.
He does some sort of lobbying/law thing now? Theoretically has a speaking gig here fairly regularly, but I've never seen him. He is thoroughly out of politics.
Interesting, I was thinking his endorsement could make a difference.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 22, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
He does some sort of lobbying/law thing now? Theoretically has a speaking gig here fairly regularly, but I've never seen him. He is thoroughly out of politics.
Interesting, I was thinking his endorsement could make a difference.
Not directly -- Chicago is a city of organizations, not leaders. When someone like Chuy Garcia endorses, it's not a big deal because he's personally popular. It's a big deal because (or so we thought until recently) he has a group of supporters who can deliver a ton of votes. To the extent Rich Daley still has that, it's the 11th Ward RDO, which is for Preckwinkle, and various loosely connected elites, who are mostly for Lightfoot.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 22, 2019, 11:36:27 PM
He does some sort of lobbying/law thing now? Theoretically has a speaking gig here fairly regularly, but I've never seen him. He is thoroughly out of politics.
Interesting, I was thinking his endorsement could make a difference.
Not directly -- Chicago is a city of organizations, not leaders. When someone like Chuy Garcia endorses, it's not a big deal because he's personally popular. It's a big deal because (or so we thought until recently) he has a group of supporters who can deliver a ton of votes. To the extent Rich Daley still has that, it's the 11th Ward RDO, which is for Preckwinkle, and various loosely connected elites, who are mostly for Lightfoot.
So who has the most potent and/or numerically superior support of questionable endorsements.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 08:31:18 AM
Activists have launched a #StopLightfoot campaign on social media surrounding her work on the Police Board. They even have a website: https://www.stoplightfoot.com/

Obviously there is a lot to unpack, but I think their best case against her has always centered on her work in police oversight.

One thing they love to say is that she has been in the field of police accountability for a long time and is therefore "responsible" for the state of policing in the city. I don't buy this at all. One person is not responsible for the state of policing, especially given our city's long history and entrenched culture of police misconduct. That said, if one person even were to be responsible, it would be a Mayor or Superintendent.

They are very critical of her time leading the Police Board. I give a lot of stock to this, as they were the ones that dealt with her directly during that time, at a time when I had not even heard of her yet.

A qualm I have with their portrayal - they constantly say she had a "pattern of going easy on cops." If by "pattern" they mean several occasions, it is likely true. But if by "pattern" they mean a trend over her tenure, it is not true. In the years leading up to her tenure, the Police Board fired officers (already recommended for firing by the Superintendent) at an abysmal rate in the mid-30 percentage range. In her years heading the Board, that percentage doubled into the mid-70s.

One case that I think they are 100% correct on is the case of Rekia Boyd. Dante Servin, who killed Rekia, escaped prosecution because he was undercharged by Anita Alvarez (many claim intentionally). The judge said he should be tried for murder but couldn't be charged for manslaughter. A gross and sickening miscarriage of justice. Even so, IPRA and Superintendent McCarthy took their time recommending a firing (they have to do so before the Police Board gets it). Once the Police Board took the case, they waited 6 months before scheduling a hearing on it. Two days before the hearing, Servin decided to resign (with full pension) instead of facing the board.

This is a case that has me up at night. I am not familiar with the average time it takes the Police Board to hear a case, but I can't explain why it would take 6 months on such a high profile case that so clearly merited a firing. Lori has never really explained it in detail, either.

Interested to hear thoughts, particularly from sjoyce.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 11:12:09 AM
Some endorsements this morning:

Susana Mendoza for Lightfoot
Bobby Rush for Preckwinkle

Since there were stones being thrown re: former Daley backers going to Lightfoot, I’d note that Rush endorsed Daley in the first round.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Continential on March 23, 2019, 12:00:42 PM
Some endorsements this morning:

Susana Mendoza for Lightfoot
Bobby Rush for Preckwinkle

Since there were stones being thrown re: former Daley backers going to Lightfoot, I’d note that Rush endorsed Daley in the first round.
Funny that Rush endorsed someone who endorsed Obama in 2000.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 23, 2019, 12:07:47 PM
Funny that Rush endorsed someone who endorsed Obama in 2000.
Rush is... a funny guy. Started out as one of the higher-ups in the state chapter of the Panthers, ended up endorsing Bill Daley because he has "a great brand, like Nike."

Anyway, I don't have much of a #take on Lightfoot's past with the police board -- my main issues with her are her donors, her stance on rent control and her plans for all the closed schools.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 12:15:42 PM
Funny that Rush endorsed someone who endorsed Obama in 2000.
Rush is... a funny guy. Started out as one of the higher-ups in the state chapter of the Panthers, ended up endorsing Bill Daley because he has "a great brand, like Nike."

Anyway, I don't have much of a #take on Lightfoot's past with the police board -- my main issues with her are her donors, her stance on rent control and her plans for all the closed schools.

Toni actually hasn't taken a stance on implementing rent control. She's been very careful and clear that her position is that the state should allow communities to do it if they choose - not that she actually favors doing it.

All in all, you can tell I can't wait for 4/2 to be behind us.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
I view it as a way to appease people like Guzzardi (ppl that it is a dealbreaker for) without making any real commitment.

Kind of the theme of her campaign, tbh.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Continential on March 23, 2019, 02:01:41 PM
Who is Lightfoot supporters supporting mainly in the Treasurer election.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 05:26:50 PM
Who is Lightfoot supporters supporting mainly in the Treasurer election.

I think there’s nuance to it. Lightfoot and Pawar will both get huge margins on the north side. I expect Preckwinkle and MCE to win black wards - MCE with huge margins and narrower for Toni. Lightfoot and MCE will win police/fire hoods on the far NW/SW sides. Latinx wards are less clear - if I had to guess, I’d say Lightfoot and MCE, both with pretty narrow margins.

Overall, a loose correlation between support for Lori and Ameya.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 05:43:50 PM
Call it all but official - Janice Joyce drops another $400k into Jerry’s campaign. He’s running for State’s Attorney against Kim Foxx.

https://bit.ly/2YiCDVJ


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Continential on March 23, 2019, 06:14:58 PM
Who is Lightfoot supporters supporting mainly in the Treasurer election.

I think there’s nuance to it. Lightfoot and Pawar will both get huge margins on the north side. I expect Preckwinkle and MCE to win black wards - MCE with huge margins and narrower for Toni. Lightfoot and MCE will win police/fire hoods on the far NW/SW sides. Latinx wards are less clear - if I had to guess, I’d say Lightfoot and MCE, both with pretty narrow margins.

Overall, a loose correlation between support for Lori and Ameya.
I thought Ameya is mainly Preckwintle supporters and why is MCE doing well in the South side and Latino wards then.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 06:45:34 PM
Who is Lightfoot supporters supporting mainly in the Treasurer election.

I think there’s nuance to it. Lightfoot and Pawar will both get huge margins on the north side. I expect Preckwinkle and MCE to win black wards - MCE with huge margins and narrower for Toni. Lightfoot and MCE will win police/fire hoods on the far NW/SW sides. Latinx wards are less clear - if I had to guess, I’d say Lightfoot and MCE, both with pretty narrow margins.

Overall, a loose correlation between support for Lori and Ameya.
I thought Ameya is mainly Preckwintle supporters and why is MCE doing well in the South side and Latino wards then.

No, if you look at the results from the first round, Lori’s best wards were also Ameya’s best wards. They are both viewed as the reformist candidates, so north siders love them.

Preckwinkle’s organization hasn’t done much to help Ameya to my knowledge, and she hasn’t vocally supported him, which is the right thing to do if you’re running for another citywide office.

MCE has influence in the black community as a member of that community. Her husband is also an alderman for a black south side ward. The aldermen of those wards are using their organizations to get the vote out for her.

The guess on Latinx wards was just that. I’d consider her the establishment candidate in the race. The aldermen will likely do enough to get her narrow margins in those wards. Yet, in the first round, you saw MCE with a much stronger showing in south side Latinx wards than north side Latinx wards. This has to do with where their bases of support are. Like I said, MCE is a south sider with a stronger organization there, while Pawar is a north sider with a stronger organization there. I expect that to be the case again.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 23, 2019, 07:45:46 PM
for what it's worth, when i signed the ballot petition for preckwinkle i was also asked to sign for "toni's candidate for treasurer" [pawar]. i was in the 4th ward, so i'd consider it fairly substantial evidence that preckwinkle is quietly supporting pawar.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 08:12:59 PM
for what it's worth, when i signed the ballot petition for preckwinkle i was also asked to sign for "toni's candidate for treasurer" [pawar]. i was in the 4th ward, so i'd consider it fairly substantial evidence that preckwinkle is quietly supporting pawar.

Yes, I remember you saying that, which surprised me. It’s obviously very quiet, because that was the only thing I had heard of that nature. He did do better in the south lakefront than the rest of the south side, although reformist candidates generally do.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 23, 2019, 10:08:11 PM
Another endorsement this afternoon: the People’s Pat is with Lightfoot


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 23, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
Yes, I remember you saying that, which surprised me. It’s obviously very quiet, because that was the only thing I had heard of that nature. He did do better in the south lakefront than the rest of the south side, although reformist candidates generally do.
I don't think she's making noise about it -- obviously a lot of her support overlaps w/Conyears-Ervin, especially CTU, so probably wise not to alienate your supporters. But I think it makes sense, since Preckwinkle/C-E come from very different parts of the city and don't have much of a history, and the 4th ward has always been one of the city's more progressive

also, from the Rush endorsement:
Quote
"Rush said he considered Lightfoot “chump change,” because she has the backing of 19th Ward Ald. Matt O’Shea and, by extension, the city’s police officers, many of whom live in those predominantly white Southwest Side neighborhoods.

“The opposing candidate is representing the FOP,” Rush said as the crowd booed. “If you want the FOP, then you’ll vote for Lori.”


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 24, 2019, 07:53:29 AM
also, from the Rush endorsement:
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"Rush said he considered Lightfoot “chump change,” because she has the backing of 19th Ward Ald. Matt O’Shea and, by extension, the city’s police officers, many of whom live in those predominantly white Southwest Side neighborhoods.

“The opposing candidate is representing the FOP,” Rush said as the crowd booed. “If you want the FOP, then you’ll vote for Lori.”

Ironic, since he endorsed Daley in the first round. He’s got no ground to stand on.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 24, 2019, 08:27:33 PM
The Stroger endorsement last week had me thinking about Toni's elections as President.

Below is the map from the last primary she faced in March 2018 against Bob Fioretti. Of course, she dominated, but one thing is interesting...

Within city limits, notice that her best areas almost perfectly align with the wards that Lightfoot won on February 26.

Her other dominant wards were those on the south lakefront, which she won on February 26.

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Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 25, 2019, 01:05:53 PM
This morning, Amara Enyia says she will not endorse in the Mayor’s race and will instead focus on holding the next mayor accountable.

1) This is a huge blow for Toni. When I saw she was holding a press conference I was confident she’d endorse Preckwinkle as a payback to Chance for boosting her.

2) This suggests to be that she is angling at higher office, probably for a 2023 run against the eventual winner of this race, whoever that may be.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: RedPrometheus on March 26, 2019, 10:43:40 AM
Is one of the two the clear establishment candidate? And if so: who and why?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 26, 2019, 01:00:13 PM
Is one of the two the clear establishment candidate? And if so: who and why?
The President of the Cook County Democratic Party is probably the establishment candidate, especially after the whole bribery scandal with Berrios and secret donation from Burke to her campaign.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 26, 2019, 01:13:11 PM
Is one of the two the clear establishment candidate? And if so: who and why?

Preckwinkle is the chair of the CCDP and therefore the establishment candidate by default.

Some “establishment” support has lined up behind Lightfoot, though, like Susana Mendoza.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 26, 2019, 01:38:28 PM
Is one of the two the clear establishment candidate? And if so: who and why?

Here’s the donor history of Lightfoot’s top donors
-John Canning: $200k to Bill Daley, $200k to Rahm, $100k to Rahm’s PAC, $10k to Madigan, $250 to Rauner
-Paul Finnegan: $300k to Bill Daley, $600k to Rahm, $100k to Rahm’s PAC, $300k to Stand for Children [pro-charter PAC]
-Meredith Bluhm-Wolf: $80k to Rahm, $15k to GOP treasurer candidate Tom Cross, $5k to GOP state sen Christine Radogno, $1.5k to Pat O’Connor (Rahm’s floor leader, longtime machine-aligned Alderman, one of the Vrdolyak 29)
-Leslie Bluhm: $56k to Rahm, $25k to Tom Cross, $5k to Radogno, $10k to Illinois House Republican leader Jim Durkin

And here’s Toni’s largest donors
-Service Employees International Union - Illinois Council
-SEIU Local 1
-United Food & Commercial Workers Local 881
-Chicago Teachers Union
-SEIU Local 73
-SEIU Healthcare Illinois-Indiana
-American Federation of Teachers

You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on March 26, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
Is one of the two the clear establishment candidate? And if so: who and why?

Here’s the donor history of Lightfoot’s top donors
-John Canning: $200k to Bill Daley, $200k to Rahm, $100k to Rahm’s PAC, $10k to Madigan, $250 to Rauner
-Paul Finnegan: $300k to Bill Daley, $600k to Rahm, $100k to Rahm’s PAC, $300k to Stand for Children [pro-charter PAC]
-Meredith Bluhm-Wolf: $80k to Rahm, $15k to GOP treasurer candidate Tom Cross, $5k to GOP state sen Christine Radogno, $1.5k to Pat O’Connor (Rahm’s floor leader, longtime machine-aligned Alderman, one of the Vrdolyak 29)
-Leslie Bluhm: $56k to Rahm, $25k to Tom Cross, $5k to Radogno, $10k to Illinois House Republican leader Jim Durkin

And here’s Toni’s largest donors
-Service Employees International Union - Illinois Council
-SEIU Local 1
-United Food & Commercial Workers Local 881
-Chicago Teachers Union
-SEIU Local 73
-SEIU Healthcare Illinois-Indiana
-American Federation of Teachers

You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.

That's not to say that Preckwinkle doesn't have some reasonably strong establishment links either.

I'm curious, what was the realization that caused your abrupt switch from Lightfoot to Toni?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on March 26, 2019, 04:58:12 PM
You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.
That's not to say that Preckwinkle doesn't have some reasonably strong establishment links either.

I'm curious, what was the realization that caused your abrupt switch from Lightfoot to Toni?
I voted for Lightfoot in the primary because I believed she was capable of defeating Bill Daley in a runoff and Preckwinkle was not. I've always preferred Preckwinkle on policy, but guaranteeing Daley went down was more important than the policy differences between the two. Now that Bill's out of the picture, I'm free to vote for the candidate I agree with more.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 26, 2019, 06:51:39 PM
You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.
That's not to say that Preckwinkle doesn't have some reasonably strong establishment links either.

I'm curious, what was the realization that caused your abrupt switch from Lightfoot to Toni?
I voted for Lightfoot in the primary because I believed she was capable of defeating Bill Daley in a runoff and Preckwinkle was not. I've always preferred Preckwinkle on policy, but guaranteeing Daley went down was more important than the policy differences between the two. Now that Bill's out of the picture, I'm free to vote for the candidate I agree with more.

This is just not true. Scroll back in this thread, and you’ll find that you said that Lightfoot’s shortcomings on policing are less concerning than Preckwinkle’s ties in the political establishment.

Something else caused the shift. Could be her endorsers, her donors, her statements on the cop academy, or something else. Doesn’t seem that it had to do with Daley, though.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 26, 2019, 07:01:01 PM
You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.
That's not to say that Preckwinkle doesn't have some reasonably strong establishment links either.

I'm curious, what was the realization that caused your abrupt switch from Lightfoot to Toni?
I voted for Lightfoot in the primary because I believed she was capable of defeating Bill Daley in a runoff and Preckwinkle was not. I've always preferred Preckwinkle on policy, but guaranteeing Daley went down was more important than the policy differences between the two. Now that Bill's out of the picture, I'm free to vote for the candidate I agree with more.

This is just not true. Scroll back in this thread, and you’ll find that you said that Lightfoot’s shortcomings on policing are less concerning than Preckwinkle’s ties in the political establishment.

Something else caused the shift. Could be her endorsers, her donors, her statements on the cop academy, or something else. Doesn’t seem that it had to do with Daley, though.
I think Sjoyce can decide on his own what causes his support for candidates.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 26, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
You can make a pedantic argument about who has what titles, but one candidate is owned by the city's wealthy financial interests and the other is the candidate of working people. Seems fairly clear-cut to me.
That's not to say that Preckwinkle doesn't have some reasonably strong establishment links either.

I'm curious, what was the realization that caused your abrupt switch from Lightfoot to Toni?
I voted for Lightfoot in the primary because I believed she was capable of defeating Bill Daley in a runoff and Preckwinkle was not. I've always preferred Preckwinkle on policy, but guaranteeing Daley went down was more important than the policy differences between the two. Now that Bill's out of the picture, I'm free to vote for the candidate I agree with more.

This is just not true. Scroll back in this thread, and you’ll find that you said that Lightfoot’s shortcomings on policing are less concerning than Preckwinkle’s ties in the political establishment.

Something else caused the shift. Could be her endorsers, her donors, her statements on the cop academy, or something else. Doesn’t seem that it had to do with Daley, though.
I think Sjoyce can decide on his own what causes his support for candidates.

I agree. That doesn’t mean I won’t point out that what they’re describing as their reasons for supporting one candidate in the first round isn’t consistent with what they posted on this forum.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on March 26, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
I do apologize if I've been irritable in this thread lately. This election has been a chaotic mess of friends turning against friends and making it personal, and combined with craziness at work, has driven me a little crazy. I'm eagerly awaiting the end of this election.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on March 26, 2019, 11:50:31 PM
I do apologize if I've been irritable in this thread lately. This election has been a chaotic mess of friends turning against friends and making it personal, and combined with craziness at work, has driven me a little crazy. I'm eagerly awaiting the end of this election.
It’s fine mate, just cool it when your coming in hot or you’ll burn the board to dust. Even though it’s hard, try it the same way in real life, you don’t want to kill off your social circle for two, admittedly different in several key aspects but nonetheless, reformist candidates


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 27, 2019, 02:14:30 PM
I see this Runoff campaign has alienated neighbors, family members & friends.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on March 28, 2019, 05:19:00 PM
Honestly, we have two fantastic options in this runoff. No need to get hostile with anyone who agrees with one more than the other.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 01, 2019, 10:37:50 PM
it's time


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:05:21 AM
Just voted a second time for Lori and Ameya. Though, unlike the first time, it was not without reservations.

I hope whoever wins tonight marks a truly new day for our beloved city. I think we've got a shot with either one of them. We'll be back in four years to do a performance evaluation.

They can't do it without support from the council, though, so here's hoping we bring home the key aldermanic runoffs, especially Andre Vasquez, Marianne Lalonde, and Rafa Yañez. O'Connor, Cappleman, and Lopez have to go.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on April 02, 2019, 09:05:33 AM
Here’s hoping The aldermanic and treasurer races turn out ok. The energy the runoff opponents have, along with clean and strong credentials, give me hope for a better city.

For the mayoral races, it signifies a possible shift away from the old-school politics of the city. My support lies with Lori Lightfoot, but I wouldn’t be too sad with Toni Preckwinkle. In fact, I hope the final tally is a tight one, we need to earn our victory after all.

I also hope that young people are more mobilized than over here in the suburbs. I see more young people act as election judges and EMs proportionally than be voters, it’s sickening no matter how small the election is.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 02, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
What time should we get an early indication of a possible landslide victory for Lightfoot ?



Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on April 02, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChicagoElection/status/1113141725961314304
Turnout is horrible among young people, especially biting considering how fresh the candidates for all citywide races still going are. I’m considering making a pyre for offering Ahura Mazda’s good graces today.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on April 02, 2019, 05:11:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChicagoElection/status/1113141725961314304
Turnout is horrible among young people, especially biting considering how Fresh the candidates for all citywide races still going are. I’m considering making a pyre for offering Ahura Mazda’s good graces today.

It quite sad that young people can't be bothered to vote in local elections and in general. They complain about wanting change but can't get off their butts to vote.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
What time should we get an early indication of a possible landslide victory for Lightfoot ?



The results came in pretty quickly after the 7pm central poll closing on Feb 26, so I’m hopeful for the same this time around. I guess we’ll find out soon.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 06:38:22 PM
Where can results be found?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 06:58:05 PM

I recommend the official site for the most updated:

https://chicagoelections.com/en/election-results.asp?election=210


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:00:16 PM
A few predictions before everything officially closes:

I think the Mayor’s race has the potential to be much closer than most are thinking

I think that Ameya is going to lose the Treasurer’s race (and I’ll shed tears)

I think Lalonde is going to beat Cappleman in the 46th


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on April 02, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
3% in

Lightfoot with 75%


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:23:17 PM
First results:

Lightfoot 76
Preckwinkle 24
17% in


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on April 02, 2019, 07:24:55 PM
First results:

Lightfoot 76
Preckwinkle 24
17% in

Well, this has been quite anti-climatic. Congrats to Lori!


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 07:26:11 PM
3 to 1?

Jesus.

And probably Rip Pawar too.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:27:08 PM
First results:

Lightfoot 76
Preckwinkle 24
17% in

Well, this has been quite anti-climatic. Congrats to Lori!

Results are mostly from Lightfoot territory on the north side


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
Bad news for Ameya. If it’s Lori territory, it should be his, too (except for the cop wards)


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 02, 2019, 07:32:08 PM
Am I the only one who thinks these results are wacko?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:33:53 PM
51% in, Lightfoot drops to 74%

It’s probably over.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 02, 2019, 07:35:30 PM
51% in, Lightfoot drops to 74%

It’s probably over.
these numbers are absolutely insane lmao.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 07:37:30 PM
lmao DDHQ has projected already.

Lori Lightfoot (Nonpartisan) (✓)   74.4%   190,489
Toni Preckwinkle (Nonpartisan)     25.6%   65,674


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on April 02, 2019, 07:38:06 PM
Continue-Ears is going to win. Well, time to focus on the aldermanic races.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Duke of York on April 02, 2019, 07:38:10 PM
I thought this would be a big win for lightfoot but I never thought it would be a blowout like this!


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:38:46 PM
Continue-Ears is going to win. Well, time to focus on the aldermanic races.

Yep, might as well call this one as well


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on April 02, 2019, 07:50:22 PM
Other than the race with Jeannette, the others are too close to call or a blowout to the progressive candidate. €]¥|]¥{•£|£] /&:@.  @1”:& ...all of this night.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:55:06 PM
Other than the race with Jeannette, the others are too close to call or a blowout to the progressive candidate. €]¥|]¥{•£|£] /&:@.  @1”:& ...all of this night.

But Lori won

Also Martin is going to beat Negron in the 47th, a major win


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 07:55:44 PM
Also Vasquez is up narrowly. That’s the most important ward IMO


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 02, 2019, 07:56:48 PM
Seems like a pretty good night overall!


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 07:58:46 PM
Yeah 71% in and Lightfoot is maintaining ~3 to 1. Wasn't expecting close to this much of a blowout.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Continential on April 02, 2019, 08:05:00 PM
Continue-Ears is going to win. Well, time to focus on the aldermanic races.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Nyvin on April 02, 2019, 08:08:44 PM
Chicago must REALLY hate establishment pols for this kind of result.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 08:16:17 PM
Chicago must REALLY hate establishment pols for this kind of result.

For the first time ever. It’s certainly a mandate.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
Not looking at results beyond mayoral, how much did MCE win by?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Grassroots on April 02, 2019, 09:08:59 PM
Are there any runoff maps out right now?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 02, 2019, 09:17:54 PM
Chicago must REALLY hate establishment pols for this kind of result.

There's no runoff tonight in the 14th Ward because Ed Burke won re-election despite being indicted on federal corruption charges, so... let's not get too hasty in these kinds of conclusions.

Are there any runoff maps out right now?

Sun-Times has one but it's, uh, monochrome


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
I’m at a social gathering so not researching, but according to political geeks on twitter, Lightfoot won Preckwinkle’s home turf, Ward 4.

That is unbelievable.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 09:27:47 PM
Patrick O’Connor, one of the last members of the racist Vrdolyak 29 from the 1980’s, has lost to challenger Andre Vasquez

Justice is served. Harold is smiling.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 09:29:07 PM
Not looking at results beyond mayoral, how much did MCE win by?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 02, 2019, 09:30:22 PM
I’m at a social gathering so not researching, but according to political geeks on twitter, Lightfoot won Preckwinkle’s home turf, Ward 4.

That is unbelievable.

60-40, yes. Closest was mine, which Lightfoot won 54-46 or so.

Conyears-Ervin won big, around 60-40.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Sestak on April 02, 2019, 09:31:27 PM
I’m at a social gathering so not researching, but according to political geeks on twitter, Lightfoot won Preckwinkle’s home turf, Ward 4.

That is unbelievable.

60-40, yes. Closest was mine, which Lightfoot won 54-46 or so.

Conyears-Ervin won big, around 60-40.

Well “big” is sort of relative in citywide races today, no?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 02, 2019, 09:32:25 PM
Well “big” is sort of relative in citywide races today, no?

It's "big" relative to how she performed in the first round -- Pawar dropped from 42% to 40%, Conyears-Ervin consolidated the rest


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 09:34:04 PM
Lori Lightfoot leads in every single ward, via the Sun Times

I can’t say anything but “wow.” Chicago hasn’t seen anything like this before.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: PSOL on April 02, 2019, 10:09:17 PM
Have exit polls been published? How did the black vote go?


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 02, 2019, 10:14:06 PM
Have exit polls been published? How did the black vote go?

I think it's easy enough to guess.

Seems Preckwinkle only won a dozen or so precincts, all in or around Hyde Park.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 02, 2019, 10:16:10 PM
With 100% in, wards 33 and 46 will have to wait for VBMs. Too close to call. Both have serious progressive challengers up against Rahm rubber-stampers


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Green Line on April 02, 2019, 10:51:15 PM
I'm just glad Toni lost.  Hopefully Lori gets the reform crap out of her system real fast - I'm hopeful!

Also glad that MCE won, she is the only candidate that I voted for from the primary to prevail.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 03, 2019, 12:25:45 AM
Status of some of the key aldermanic races (all my own takes, not official)...

5: Hairston likely winner
15: Lopez is winner (loss for progressives)
20: Taylor is winner
25: Sigcho-Lopez is winner (win for progressives)
33: Too close to call
39: Nugent is winner (loss for progressives)
40: Vasquez is winner (win for progressives)
46: Too close to call
47: Martin is winner (win for progressives)

My thought on the mayor’s race is that Chicago, and me, took a leap in the dark today. Lori Lightfoot promises a different type of politics for the city, but has very little political track record. We gave her a strong mandate and a more cooperative city council to do it. Now, it’s on her to follow through and it’s on us to hold her accountable.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 03, 2019, 12:42:46 AM
Incredible...

Martinez Sutton, brother of Rekia Boyd, who’s case before the Police Board became a rallying point for activists in opposition to Lightfoot, attended Lightfoot’s event this evening

https://twitter.com/royalpratt/status/1113261065343852544?s=21


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: _ on April 03, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
I wanted Preckwinkle to get beaten by a big margin but.. holy crap I didn't expect THIS


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 03, 2019, 11:01:57 AM
Very impressive night for DSA -- all four DSA candidates either won or have a lead going into the recount (in the 33rd). Every other progressive candidate, with the exception of Martin in the 47th, lost.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 03, 2019, 03:15:35 PM
Lightfoot will take office on May 20th. Does anybody know where the Inauguration will be held at ?

I doubt it'll be held on the grounds of Chicago City Hall.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Peanut on April 03, 2019, 04:42:47 PM
I will say, I have high hopes for Lightfoot. Definitely looking forward.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 03, 2019, 07:22:04 PM
The Sun Times has the maps up for the mayoral and treasurer races for those interested:

https://elections.suntimes.com/results/

The night before the election, I was wondering what Ameya's path the victory was considering he didn't seem to have made inroads outside of the north side. Sure enough, Conyears Ervin cleaned up everywhere except the north side. Ameya's best wards were the 47th, which he represents in the council, and my ward, the 44th, which is primarily Lakeview.

I know we've already discussed the map of the mayor's race somewhat, but one thing that recently jumped out to me is how much better Toni did in the black wards on the south side than in the black wards on the west side. In my experience looking at Chicago election maps, you don't usually see a break like that regardless of where the candidate is from. Another thing that I noticed is how Lightfoot underperformed in Rogers Park. She won that ward in the first round, so that she performed worse there in the second round than many of the wards that didn't nearly win in the first round is interesting.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Donerail on April 03, 2019, 08:09:15 PM
Lightfoot will take office on May 20th. Does anybody know where the Inauguration will be held at ?

I doubt it'll be held on the grounds of Chicago City Hall.

They usually do somewhere like Millennium Park or the Chicago Theater


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 04, 2019, 07:25:36 PM
Still trying to make sense of Lori winning all 50 wards. It is really unprecedented and I am not sure how she pulled it off. I expected Toni to at least win a number of the plurality black wards given what I perceived to be her inroads in that community.

Did those wards go to Lori because of her message? Or is Toni really that unpopular? She won re-election in the 2018 primary, though looking back, I suppose that 60-40 was not overly convincing.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on April 04, 2019, 08:20:06 PM
Still trying to make sense of Lori winning all 50 wards. It is really unprecedented and I am not sure how she pulled it off. I expected Toni to at least win a number of the plurality black wards given what I perceived to be her inroads in that community.

Did those wards go to Lori because of her message? Or is Toni really that unpopular? She won re-election in the 2018 primary, though looking back, I suppose that 60-40 was not overly convincing.

Maybe it has to do with her former occupation as President of the Chicago Police Board. I'm sure she was able to win over many conservative white males who usually bring odium on blacks, women and homosexuals.


Title: Re: RUNOFF 2019: Chicago Mayoral Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 04, 2019, 08:22:15 PM
Still trying to make sense of Lori winning all 50 wards. It is really unprecedented and I am not sure how she pulled it off. I expected Toni to at least win a number of the plurality black wards given what I perceived to be her inroads in that community.

Did those wards go to Lori because of her message? Or is Toni really that unpopular? She won re-election in the 2018 primary, though looking back, I suppose that 60-40 was not overly convincing.

Maybe it has to do with her former occupation as President of the Chicago Police Board. I'm sure she was able to win over many conservative white males who usually bring odium on blacks, women and homosexuals.

I expected her to win those areas. What I can't figure out is how she did so well among black voters despite Preckwinkle's inroads and establishment support from within that community.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 04, 2019, 09:34:27 PM
It's just so unprecedented. Even when Richie was winning with 70% margins, he typically would lose a block of wards that would go to his challenger along racial lines. Same with his dad. Chicago has truly not seen anything like it in at least the last 50 years.

Still trying to figure it all out.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: PSOL on April 04, 2019, 10:08:10 PM
It's just so unprecedented. Even when Richie was winning with 70% margins, he typically would lose a block of wards that would go to his challenger along racial lines. Same with his dad. Chicago has truly not seen anything like it in at least the last 50 years.

Still trying to figure it all out.
Historically poor turnout along with voter apathy from knowing that your outnumbered anyway since the runoff?


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Donerail on April 04, 2019, 10:43:45 PM
It's just so unprecedented. Even when Richie was winning with 70% margins, he typically would lose a block of wards that would go to his challenger along racial lines. Same with his dad. Chicago has truly not seen anything like it in at least the last 50 years.

Still trying to figure it all out.

Since 2007. Daley won every ward in both 2007 and 2003.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Green Line on April 04, 2019, 11:44:57 PM
Its a municipal election, and has been previously stated, there is precidence for this..

I'm glad Lori won and hope she is successful.  This is not a big deal though.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 05, 2019, 07:16:36 AM
It's just so unprecedented. Even when Richie was winning with 70% margins, he typically would lose a block of wards that would go to his challenger along racial lines. Same with his dad. Chicago has truly not seen anything like it in at least the last 50 years.

Still trying to figure it all out.

Since 2007. Daley won every ward in both 2007 and 2003.

Interesting - I guess my assessment was not correct. Where do you get the maps for these years? I typically reference Chicago Democracy Project, linked below, but they only go through 1999.

Between when they started mapping and 1999, no candidate won every ward in the primary (back when it was partisan).

I wonder why Daley was able to do it two times in a row when he and his dad were unable to do it for many decades prior. Less racialized politics? Technology making things less localized?

I would still argue that a non-incumbent winning all wards is much different than an incumbent of two decades winning all wards, but alas, we haven't had that many elections with non-incumbents.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 06, 2019, 10:21:20 AM
Council members confirm Ed Burke is organizing council against Lightfoot

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-mayor-elect-lori-lightfoot-alderman-edward-burke-organize-against-her/

Reminiscent of the Vrdolyak 29 days against Harold Washington. Difference is that Vrdolyak and Burke are on their way to the pen this time.

I'd like to keep this thread going to discuss Chicago political affairs if that is good with everyone else.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on April 07, 2019, 09:07:20 AM
The economy is in the dumps in IL. This change will do some good; however, Richard Daley stayed there too long.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Sestak on April 08, 2019, 12:29:08 AM
Council members confirm Ed Burke is organizing council against Lightfoot

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-mayor-elect-lori-lightfoot-alderman-edward-burke-organize-against-her/

Reminiscent of the Vrdolyak 29 days against Harold Washington. Difference is that Vrdolyak and Burke are on their way to the pen this time.

I'd like to keep this thread going to discuss Chicago political affairs if that is good with everyone else.

Oh joy.

Is Burke himself still denying?

Also, given the ridiculous mandate for Lightfoot, wouldn’t she have a massive public support advantage in any Council Wars 2.0?


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 08, 2019, 04:40:51 PM
Let me guess: Burke & Co., is serving up a special diet of race-baiting Council Wars 2.0 ?

I'm assuming they're plotting to undermine her before she even has taken the Oath of Office on May 20th.

Will outgoing Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D) be attending the Inauguration festivities ?


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: PSOL on April 08, 2019, 05:02:06 PM
Council members confirm Ed Burke is organizing council against Lightfoot

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-mayor-elect-lori-lightfoot-alderman-edward-burke-organize-against-her/

Reminiscent of the Vrdolyak 29 days against Harold Washington. Difference is that Vrdolyak and Burke are on their way to the pen this time.

I'd like to keep this thread going to discuss Chicago political affairs if that is good with everyone else.

Oh joy.

Is Burke himself still denying?

Also, given the ridiculous mandate for Lightfoot, wouldn’t she have a massive public support advantage in any Council Wars 2.0?
Not if that public doesn’t react and vote out the Burke faction. Considering the poor turnout and how hard it was to get progressives over the line, mayor Lightfoot is going to need an effective PR campaign to sideline him.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 08, 2019, 07:54:23 PM
I note the Establishment will fight her on term limits as well.



Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot in a landslide
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 08, 2019, 09:32:15 PM
Last last night, the Mayor-elect notified the Mayor of her request that he delay a committee vote on the controversial Lincoln Yards TIF project that Mayor Emanuel has championed. Lightfoot campaigned on the idea that there should be a cost-benefit analysis done on the TIF system before proceeding with any new TIF districts.

The Mayor agreed to do so, but a handful of council members, most vocally Brian Hopkins of the 2nd, whose ward the project would fall in, threw a fit. They motioned to hold the vote, but Chairman and outgoing 40th ward alderman Pat O'Connor denied it.

O'Connor signaled that there will be another hearing on Wednesday morning and he is hopeful that the Mayor and Mayor-elect can come to an agreement before then so that a vote can be held.

It's only been a week, but if this start is any indication of what her tenure as Mayor will be like, I'd say she will not have a good relationship with the council.

That's a huge plus, btw. A huge number of council members are criminally crooked at worst and owned by developers at best. She just has to identify how she's going to get her agenda through if that relationship isn't there, given that the council has a number of methods it can use to block the Mayor's agenda. She'll have a more cooperative council as of 5/20 than what is currently in place, though.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on April 08, 2019, 10:00:52 PM
I was with Preckwinkle, because I trust sjoyce when it comes to Chicago, but I do like the sound of Lightfoot bringing the most odious members of the council to heel.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Donerail on April 08, 2019, 11:34:19 PM
Yes, it's mostly a charade at this point -- longtime Alderman professes his respect for the new mayor's power by holding a lengthy hearing and pushing a vote back by all of two days


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 10, 2019, 07:43:27 AM
Sure enough, the vote will take place today. Lightfoot issued a statement last night saying she secured stronger commitments from the developers on MWBE and giving the green light to the vote.

Yesterday, it appeared that the vote was going to take place today regardless, so it seems that this is Lightfoot is trying to save face by giving the green light. She may appear weak if the council is steamrolling her wishes before she even takes office.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 10, 2019, 07:55:50 AM
The cynic in me wonders if Lightfoot and Emanuel came to an agreement to have it go down this way in order to both save face politically.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 10, 2019, 05:25:34 PM
Sounds like the Establishment is taking pages out of the Mitch McConnell Playbook in undermining Lightfoot.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: PSOL on April 10, 2019, 06:05:21 PM
There are now 12 votes separating the candidates in the 33rd ward, per the recent Sun Times edition today.. I’m literally not going to get good sleep till that race is called, even with my gal in the lead.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 10, 2019, 09:40:35 PM
It became pretty clear today that Lightfoot misplayed the Lincoln Yards/78 deal. Progressives are now pissed that she has given the green light, yet she looks equally weak in front of the council having come out against it and then caved.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 12, 2019, 08:48:28 AM
It became pretty clear today that Lightfoot misplayed the Lincoln Yards/78 deal. Progressives are now pissed that she has given the green light, yet she looks equally weak in front of the council having come out against it and then caved.

The Establishment is going to exploit this & up the ante even further against her.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 09, 2019, 09:53:21 PM
Lightfoot's May 20 inauguration will be at Wintrust Arena and is open to the public. A City Hall open house will follow.

This week, she was in Washington. She met with Ivanka Trump (representing the WH), Nancy Pelosi, and other officials, as well as the Illinois delegation. She also held a fundraiser, telling the media that she wants to have a presence in 2020 to help her allies/early backers. Can't think of who that would be, though - no one is in trouble.

Additionally, liberal/reformist firebrand Scott Waguespack says he is one vote away from having enough to take Finance chairman. More moderate alderwo/men have gotten behind Tom Tunney. Both were Lightfoot endorsers, though Waguespack was an early backer (Tunney very late) and key ally and adviser to the ME throughout the campaign.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 11, 2019, 01:23:34 PM
Will Emanuel attend the inaugural festivities ?


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 13, 2019, 07:02:12 PM
Lightfoot and Preckwinkle had lunch today to discuss collaboration heading into the Mayor-Elect's inauguration. Preckwinkle remains Cook County Board President and the two will interact considerably in their respective roles.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/g00/politics/ct-met-mayor-lightfoot-toni-preckwinkle-lunch-20190513-story.html?i10c.ua=1&i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8%3d&i10c.dv=9


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 14, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
Lightfoot and Preckwinkle had lunch today to discuss collaboration heading into the Mayor-Elect's inauguration. Preckwinkle remains Cook County Board President and the two will interact considerably in their respective roles.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/g00/politics/ct-met-mayor-lightfoot-toni-preckwinkle-lunch-20190513-story.html?i10c.ua=1&i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8%3d&i10c.dv=9

Meanwhile, the Establishment & the Good Ole Boys Network are going to pull a McConnell by blocking Lightfoot's policy initiatives.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 15, 2019, 11:38:06 AM
Trib and NBC5 confirm that Lightfoot wants Waguespack as Finance Chair and Tunney as Budget Chair.

Waguespack in lead role would be a big win for progressives and heading into budget season, I expect that the “light” will be brought in on many aspects of the current budget with him in charge.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 15, 2019, 02:53:49 PM
Trib and NBC5 confirm that Lightfoot wants Waguespack as Finance Chair and Tunney as Budget Chair.

Waguespack in lead role would be a big win for progressives and heading into budget season, I expect that the “light” will be brought in on many aspects of the current budget with him in charge.

I see that the Establishment plans on fighting Lightfoot on term limits since she plans on limiting both the Mayor & City Council to 2 4-year terms.



Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 15, 2019, 07:09:23 PM
Lightfoot laid out her plan on aldermanic prerogative in meetings with aldermen this week. That is the unwritten rule that aldermen have essentially unchecked control over activities requiring city approval within their wards. It has been at the heart of most political scandals in this town over the last several decades.

The aldermen say she plans to push to curtail the practice on licensing and permits, but will leave zoning untouched. Most aldermen have opposed the plan. The two that are most supportive are an interesting pair - Alds. Cappleman and Ramirez-Rosa.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lame duck Rahmbo
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 16, 2019, 11:52:17 AM
Lightfoot tells the press that she plans to end aldermanic prerogative over zoning as well. She says she’ll do it via a re-write of the zoning code. I’m a happy voter :) Will be happier once it happens, though.

She also denies that the leadership being reported is final, but confirms that Waguespack will be front and center. She cites his experience in good government and his early endorsement of her despite political consequences.


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 16, 2019, 02:01:51 PM
Clock ticking on Lame Duck Emanuel. Does anybody know if he'll be attending the inaugural festivities on Monday afternoon ?


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 17, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Clock ticking on Lame Duck Emanuel. Does anybody know if he'll be attending the inaugural festivities on Monday afternoon ?

Haven't heard, but Daley did attend Rahm's


Title: Re: CHICAGO MEGATHREAD: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 17, 2019, 12:35:08 PM
Clock ticking on Lame Duck Emanuel. Does anybody know if he'll be attending the inaugural festivities on Monday afternoon ?

Haven't heard, but Daley did attend Rahm's

Let me know if he shows up.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 17, 2019, 05:03:23 PM
Lightfoot has announced her desired committee leadership. Among others, it includes...

Finance: Waguespack
Budget: Dowell
Zoning: Tunney
Floor Leader: Villegas
Economic Dev: Villegas

Lightfoot informed Ald. Carrie Austin - longtime Budget Chair - that she was being thrown out because of nepotism.

The ME also says that Ald. Beale is being ousted from his prior committee spot because he threatened a fight if Waguespack was to be named Finance Chair.

Beale backed Lightfoot in the General. Austin backed Preckwinkle.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 20, 2019, 12:55:44 PM
Rahm was indeed in attendance, as he had to call the council to order.

In her speech, Lightfoot doubled down on her campaign platform, promising improvements to education, equitable investment in underserved neighborhoods, and government reform.

Most notably, she said, “Stopping corruption isn’t just in the city’s interest, it’s in the city council’s interest.” She then turned around to smile at the council sitting behind her. Crowd went nuts.

“For years, they’ve said Chicago ain’t ready for reform. Well get ready because reform is here.”

“I campaigned on change. You voted for change. We will deliver change.”

Kind of sets the stage.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 20, 2019, 01:02:25 PM
Rahm was indeed in attendance, as he had to call the council to order.

In her speech, Lightfoot doubled down on her campaign platform, promising improvements to education, equitable investment in underserved neighborhoods, and government reform.

Most notably, she said, “Stopping corruption isn’t just in the city’s interest, it’s in the city council’s interest.” She then turned around to smile at the council sitting behind her. Crowd went nuts.

“For years, they’ve said Chicago ain’t ready for reform. Well get ready because reform is here.”

“I campaigned on change. You voted for change. We will deliver change.”

Kind of sets the stage.

Wish her luck because she's sure as Hell going to need it considering the Establishment is likely pulling a McConnell to undermine her every step of the way 24/7.



Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 21, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
Wish her luck because she's sure as Hell going to need it considering the Establishment is likely pulling a McConnell to undermine her every step of the way 24/7.

you really saw the people she appointed as chairs and still think "oh, she's clearly going to fight the establishment"?? lmfao


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 21, 2019, 10:24:57 AM
Wish her luck because she's sure as Hell going to need it considering the Establishment is likely pulling a McConnell to undermine her every step of the way 24/7.

you really saw the people she appointed as chairs and still think "oh, she's clearly going to fight the establishment"?? lmfao

Not everyone is going to be impressed by Lightfoot. I doubt she'll make long-lasting changes.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on May 21, 2019, 04:22:00 PM
Gavin Newsom also wanted to make changes to the homeless population, instead, he is keeping the tourism industry up in Disneyland and SF. Unless, there is a casino put in Chicago, long-lasting changes to Chicago, won't be made.  That can get tourism back into Chicago.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 21, 2019, 09:12:17 PM
Wish her luck because she's sure as Hell going to need it considering the Establishment is likely pulling a McConnell to undermine her every step of the way 24/7.

you really saw the people she appointed as chairs and still think "oh, she's clearly going to fight the establishment"?? lmfao

Waguespack as Finance Chair was something of my dreams before she (has almost) made it happen.

Here's hoping that four years from now she's made you happy to have voted for her in Round 1.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 21, 2019, 09:20:05 PM
In her first act as Mayor, Lightfoot signed an EO instructing those in her branch to no longer honor aldermanic privilege when it comes to licenses and permits. She plans to implement this with zoning via a re-write of the code.

She announced several appointments today, including Marisa Novara, a champion of affordable housing and critic of aldermanic privilege, to lead the Housing Department.

She also reiterated that she plans to retain CPD Supt. Eddie Johnson, CPS CEO Janice Jackson, among others. In the campaign, she indicated Johnson would stay through the summer. She never committed either way on Jackson.

Ald. Ray Lopez - a Burke ally who fended off a progressive challenger this past cycle - told the press that he thinks Lightfoot has the votes to deliver her preferred council chairs but says she will pay for embarrassing the council during her speech Monday.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Badger on May 25, 2019, 03:44:39 PM
Went to a friend's kids graduation party just now. The friends sister and brother-in-law came in from Chicago. The brother-in-law I made a great point. He doesn't expect Lightfoot to be a great mayor, but will be sufficient to nail up the boards necessary to keep the zombies out of the building. Great analogy.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Fuzzy Bear on May 25, 2019, 03:49:27 PM
I would never want to be Mayor of Chicago.  The level of social problems in the city and the level of corruption in city government is truly overwhelming.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 26, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
What are her approval ratings so far ?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Fuzzy Bear on May 27, 2019, 04:36:42 PM
Has Vito Marzullo rolled over in his grave yet, lol?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
What are her approval ratings so far ?

no one's doing polls on a mayor who's been in office for a week lmfao


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Badger on May 27, 2019, 06:17:05 PM
I would never want to be Mayor of Chicago.  The level of social problems in the city and the level of corruption in city government is truly overwhelming.

Chicago is a great City. One of the great cities of the world.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Fuzzy Bear on May 27, 2019, 06:19:24 PM
I would never want to be Mayor of Chicago.  The level of social problems in the city and the level of corruption in city government is truly overwhelming.

Chicago is a great City. One of the great cities of the world.

True, and I've always wanted to visit it, but I don't want to be one of its elected leaders (on the way to jail).


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 29, 2019, 07:38:19 AM
CST reports that Lightfoot has tapped Miguel del Valle to head the school board until an elected board can move into place.

del Valle has been a strong voice for reform over the years. He ran for mayor in 2011 and lost to Rahm.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2019/5/28/18643504/mayor-lightfoot-city-clerk-miguel-del-valle-school-board-president


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 29, 2019, 12:30:56 PM
In Lightfoot’s first test in front of the Council today, her preferred committee chairs passed on a voice vote - a major victory for her. Reports say that only four members voiced nays, prompting no call for a roll.

Ald. Villegas, Lightfoot’s floor leader, says that the four nays were Alds Burke, Lopez, Beale, and an unidentified alderman.

Prior to the vote, Alderman Ed Burke rose to take issue with Lightfoot’s proposed rule changes because they were not gender neutral. Lightfoot said, “Alderman, please. I will call on you if I want to hear from you.” Afterward, she said that he likes to play games but she won’t allow it.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 29, 2019, 12:37:39 PM
lmfao


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 29, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
Approval ratings ?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 29, 2019, 01:46:53 PM

stop asking this question

What are her approval ratings so far ?

no one's doing polls on a mayor who's been in office for slightly over a week lmfao


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 29, 2019, 02:02:05 PM
lmfao


So ridiculous. She has doubled down on her promise to invest in underserved communities.

She has appointed the most progressive finance chair in history. She has appointed the most progressive CPS chair in history. She has revived the Dept of Housing and appointed an affordable housing champion to lead it. She has taken power over TIFs and aldermanic privilege (major forces against affordable housing) away from the Council. She has called for a re-examination of the code of silence acquittals in the McDonald case. She is moving forward with plans to make video of all Council meetings public. She has strengthened Rule 14 and protections against aldermanic conflict of interest.

All in a week.

Progressive Alderpersons like Ramirez Rosa, Vazquez, Martin, etc have cheered this, but it seems that some in their base will continue to oppose her, likely for the purposes of saving some face after going all in against her during the campaign (and then losing 74-26).


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 29, 2019, 02:20:50 PM
She has appointed the most progressive finance chair in history.
Tell us why she chose him and not some other Alderman. Is it because he is a progressive? Is it because of anything related to anything he believes?

She has taken power over TIFs and aldermanic privilege (major forces against affordable housing) away from the Council.
This is a lie and you know it.

Progressive Alderpersons like Ramirez Rosa, Vazquez, Martin, etc have cheered this, but it seems that some in their base will continue to oppose her, likely for the purposes of saving some face after going all in against her during the campaign (and then losing 74-26).
lmao, what a bizarre and antiquated way of looking at politics. I am a journalist working for an independent newspaper — our goal is to hold the powerful to account, and I will continue to oppose Lori Lightfoot when she does bad things for this city.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 29, 2019, 09:48:34 PM
She has appointed the most progressive finance chair in history.
Tell us why she chose him and not some other Alderman. Is it because he is a progressive? Is it because of anything related to anything he believes?

She has taken power over TIFs and aldermanic privilege (major forces against affordable housing) away from the Council.
This is a lie and you know it.

Progressive Alderpersons like Ramirez Rosa, Vazquez, Martin, etc have cheered this, but it seems that some in their base will continue to oppose her, likely for the purposes of saving some face after going all in against her during the campaign (and then losing 74-26).
lmao, what a bizarre and antiquated way of looking at politics. I am a journalist working for an independent newspaper — our goal is to hold the powerful to account, and I will continue to oppose Lori Lightfoot when she does bad things for this city.

1) Lol what? I don't speak for her motives. I just give my opinion on her actions and their impact. My opinion is that it is a great pick. Why are you questioning it? I can tell you that if Toni Preckwinkle were elected, we'd have gotten an old establishment friend to chair it. In fact, if Burke hadn't been indicted, she'd have gladly kept him in place. O'Connor, too, if he hadn't lost.

2) She has shut down aldermanic privilege for licensing and permits. She will propose re-writing the code to do it for zoning. Her new council rules transfer TIF control to a committee in her branch.

3) I hope you do hold her to account. Instead, you're currently spending time sharing tweets about a tip at a coffee shop and a hearty joke made about it. Would love to hear your input on the actions she has taken thus far instead.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Green Line on May 29, 2019, 10:51:42 PM
Just like Bruce Rauner (and Trump), who failed miserably because they don't know to play nice with others who may in fact know a little about politics, Lightfoot is in for a rude awakening.  Its painfully obvious that she thinks she's going to ride in and steamroll the City Council because "change" or whatever.  Give it a year before she's despised by the vast majority of the city and with no accomplishments to show for it.  Very, very bad start to her term.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 29, 2019, 10:56:25 PM
1) Lol what? I don't speak for her motives. I just give my opinion on her actions and their impact. My opinion is that it is a great pick. Why are you questioning it? I can tell you that if Toni Preckwinkle were elected, we'd have gotten an old establishment friend to chair it. In fact, if Burke hadn't been indicted, she'd have gladly kept him in place. O'Connor, too, if he hadn't lost.
She didn't choose Waguespack because of his leadership, she chose him because — and this was in the Sun-Times — "He’s the only one of the aldermen who actually supported me before Feb. 26, and I’m not gonna forget that." That's the same old way politics has always worked, but it does mean she doesn't get to pretend to be the progressive reformer.

2) She has shut down aldermanic privilege for licensing and permits. She will propose re-writing the code to do it for zoning. Her new council rules transfer TIF control to a committee in her branch.
Fundamentally, it's the zoning that matters. Licensing and permits is an avenue for low-level graft like the stuff that snared Willie Cochran, but when you're talking about segregation and affordable housing, it is the zoning that makes the difference. She will propose re-writing something, but the deal sounds like (https://twitter.com/_johnbyrne/status/1128339268718551040) surrender on zoning in exchange for limits on licensing and permits. As for TIF funding, I am... skeptical of her willingness to curtail the worst abuses of the practice after she abruptly signed on (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/4/10/18482502/lightfoot-to-developers-of-the-78-lincoln-yards-enjoy-your-day-in-the-sun) to $2.4 billion in TIF spending on two megadevelopments.

3) I hope you do hold her to account. Instead, you're currently spending time sharing tweets about a tip at a coffee shop and a hearty joke made about it. Would love to hear your input on the actions she has taken thus far instead.
I can multitask lol. She has not taken all too many actions thus far, but we've extensively covered her choices for committee chairs. To be clear, there are some selections I genuinely like! SSG at Workforce is perfect. But she also inexplicably picked Cardenas for Environment, kept Harris at Rules for god knows what reason, and made a number of decisions that seem nakedly political — Waguespack will be a great Finance Chair, but it’s pretty clear that he’s only being chosen because he endorsed her. Similarly, Beale was a garbage Transportation chair, but it seems clear that he’s being stripped of his chairmanship because he criticized her. Hell, she’s trying to sink Martwick’s school bill because he got in a shouting match with her back in February. There are some bright spots, but it does not seem to be any sort of meaningful break with the type of politics that have characterized this city.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Badger on May 30, 2019, 12:03:43 AM
I would never want to be Mayor of Chicago.  The level of social problems in the city and the level of corruption in city government is truly overwhelming.

Chicago is a great City. One of the great cities of the world.

True, and I've always wanted to visit it, but I don't want to be one of its elected leaders (on the way to jail).

Kind of like the White House? ;D


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: BundouYMB on May 30, 2019, 07:12:24 AM
1) Lol what? I don't speak for her motives. I just give my opinion on her actions and their impact. My opinion is that it is a great pick. Why are you questioning it? I can tell you that if Toni Preckwinkle were elected, we'd have gotten an old establishment friend to chair it. In fact, if Burke hadn't been indicted, she'd have gladly kept him in place. O'Connor, too, if he hadn't lost.
She didn't choose Waguespack because of his leadership, she chose him because — and this was in the Sun-Times — "He’s the only one of the aldermen who actually supported me before Feb. 26, and I’m not gonna forget that." That's the same old way politics has always worked, but it does mean she doesn't get to pretend to be the progressive reformer.

... and what's wrong with this exactly? Why wouldn't she appoint a fellow progressive who supported her progressive campaign? Should she have appointed someone who opposes her and her agenda? What a bizarre criticism.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on May 30, 2019, 08:22:07 AM
She didn't choose Waguespack because of his leadership, she chose him because — and this was in the Sun-Times — "He’s the only one of the aldermen who actually supported me before Feb. 26, and I’m not gonna forget that." That's the same old way politics has always worked, but it does mean she doesn't get to pretend to be the progressive reformer.

... and what's wrong with this exactly? Why wouldn't she appoint a fellow progressive who supported her progressive campaign? Should she have appointed someone who opposes her and her agenda? What a bizarre criticism.
"what's wrong with appointing people based solely on their loyalty"


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: BundouYMB on May 30, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
She didn't choose Waguespack because of his leadership, she chose him because — and this was in the Sun-Times — "He’s the only one of the aldermen who actually supported me before Feb. 26, and I’m not gonna forget that." That's the same old way politics has always worked, but it does mean she doesn't get to pretend to be the progressive reformer.

... and what's wrong with this exactly? Why wouldn't she appoint a fellow progressive who supported her progressive campaign? Should she have appointed someone who opposes her and her agenda? What a bizarre criticism.
"what's wrong with appointing people based solely on their loyalty"
Yes, that's my question. Do you want to answer it?

In order to get things done in politics you need allies. If you don't reward your allies, they won't remain allies for long. I guess you'd prefer Lightfoot to remain pure as the driven snow and never get anything done?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 30, 2019, 08:01:48 PM
She didn't choose Waguespack because of his leadership, she chose him because — and this was in the Sun-Times — "He’s the only one of the aldermen who actually supported me before Feb. 26, and I’m not gonna forget that." That's the same old way politics has always worked, but it does mean she doesn't get to pretend to be the progressive reformer.

I could, of course, turn the motive question to you and ask why the leader of the Progressive Caucus endorsed her in the first place. It certainly wasn't because he thought she was going to win, as she was polling 3% when he made the endorsement. Regardless, questioning motive is ridiculous - we got a great Finance Chair, a key role on the Council. Like I said, Toni would have loved to have Burke back in the role if she could have.

Fundamentally, it's the zoning that matters. Licensing and permits is an avenue for low-level graft like the stuff that snared Willie Cochran, but when you're talking about segregation and affordable housing, it is the zoning that makes the difference. She will propose re-writing something, but the deal sounds like (https://twitter.com/_johnbyrne/status/1128339268718551040) surrender on zoning in exchange for limits on licensing and permits. As for TIF funding, I am... skeptical of her willingness to curtail the worst abuses of the practice after she abruptly signed on (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/4/10/18482502/lightfoot-to-developers-of-the-78-lincoln-yards-enjoy-your-day-in-the-sun) to $2.4 billion in TIF spending on two megadevelopments.

She has not backed off her promise to curtail the practice when it comes to zoning. She's actually reiterated it many times since her election. Time will tell.

I can multitask lol. She has not taken all too many actions thus far, but we've extensively covered her choices for committee chairs. To be clear, there are some selections I genuinely like! SSG at Workforce is perfect. But she also inexplicably picked Cardenas for Environment, kept Harris at Rules for god knows what reason, and made a number of decisions that seem nakedly political — Waguespack will be a great Finance Chair, but it’s pretty clear that he’s only being chosen because he endorsed her. Similarly, Beale was a garbage Transportation chair, but it seems clear that he’s being stripped of his chairmanship because he criticized her. Hell, she’s trying to sink Martwick’s school bill because he got in a shouting match with her back in February. There are some bright spots, but it does not seem to be any sort of meaningful break with the type of politics that have characterized this city.

She certainly chose a council that could pass the council. It would have been a disaster (in fact, a repeat of Harold's fate) if she took a loss during her first council meeting and had a competing organization rammed through. This was not out of the question - there was even talk among some members of separating the Finance Chair vote so that they could vote Scotty down. I have no problem with her shutting Beale out because he spoke out against her. Why would she appoint a political opponent (which he solidly established himself as following the election, despite endorsing her) to her Council organization? Perhaps Dems in the US House should elect a Republican as Speaker, too?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 30, 2019, 08:06:10 PM
Also, notice that you separate out individual pieces of my posts to respond to and delete the rest of the quote. Can I take that as agreement with the deleted portions of the quotes?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: LoneStarDem on May 31, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
Burke going to prison yet ?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Green Line on May 31, 2019, 07:11:55 PM
The treatment of Ed Burke, who loves Chicago so much, is shameufl.  Innocent until proven guilty is the way this country works.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Sestak on June 01, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
The treatment of Ed Burke, who loves Chicago so much, is shameufl.
::)


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2019, 11:15:52 PM

Don't feed the troll


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on June 03, 2019, 02:40:16 PM
For those that missed it, Dinosaur alderman Ed Burke was hit with a 14-count indictment late last week. The Mayor is calling for his resignation. She also says she will work with the council to investigate from within.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Donerail on June 12, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Lori Lightfoot (cop) has used her cop powers to shut down my local fried chicken joint for "grossly unsanitary food handling practices" >:(


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Green Line on September 24, 2019, 08:05:10 PM
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-illinois-sen-marty-sandoval-office-raids-20190924-wns55ttc3fhtdfzlzb5gogd2qi-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-illinois-sen-marty-sandoval-office-raids-20190924-wns55ttc3fhtdfzlzb5gogd2qi-story.html)

Another Chicago ally of Madigan had his offices raided by the Feds today - State Senator Martin Sandoval of the SW Side.  He shares much of his territory with Madigan, and some with Ald. Burke as well, I believe.

Lets hope there aren't more RATS out there like Solis.  This is getting out of hand.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: Mr. Illini on October 23, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
Little update:
*CTU and SEIU school staff have been striking for about a week over the new contract, joined by Bernie and Liz
*Lightfoot laid out her budget today that counts on permission from Springfield to implement a high end real estate transfer tax
*If she doesn't get that permission, Chicago is going to see a massive property tax hike, which will no doubt damage her popularity
*She declared a $300m TIF surplus, most of which will go to covering the cost of the new CTU contract

I've honestly been kind of out of the loop since she took over (lot going on at the national and international level) but am finally catching up, motivated by the recent developments with CTU and the budget.

What does everyone think of the first five-ish months?


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: With CTU on strike, Lightfoot lays out her budget
Post by: lfromnj on October 24, 2019, 01:25:38 AM
Massive FF

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/education/no-more-money-teachers-union-lightfoot-says-including-lincoln-yards


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: Lightfoot takes the helm
Post by: PSOL on October 25, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
Little update:
*CTU and SEIU school staff have been striking for about a week over the new contract, joined by Bernie and Liz
*Lightfoot laid out her budget today that counts on permission from Springfield to implement a high end real estate transfer tax
*If she doesn't get that permission, Chicago is going to see a massive property tax hike, which will no doubt damage her popularity
*She declared a $300m TIF surplus, most of which will go to covering the cost of the new CTU contract

I've honestly been kind of out of the loop since she took over (lot going on at the national and international level) but am finally catching up, motivated by the recent developments with CTU and the budget.

What does everyone think of the first five-ish months?

She’s less competent to get by giving peanuts to the unions, more so against the widely hated Chicago aldermen. All in all, pretty meh.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: With CTU on strike, Lightfoot lays out her budget
Post by: Green Line on October 25, 2019, 09:34:08 PM
Shes well meaning, but her political inexperience is clearly showing now.

Her big mistake was giving the CTU pretty much everything they wanted (and mich more than Chicago can afford) straight away.  Naturally, they saw that as weakness and now they want more.  She literally can't in good faith give any more ground considering their absurd demands.  She is negotiating from a place of weakness though because of the "optics" that she isnt compromising.  Its a really sad situation - sad for the taxpayers of Chicago who will be paying the 100K starting salary for these teachers in 5 (or less if they win) years.


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: With CTU on strike, Lightfoot lays out her budget
Post by: Green Line on November 01, 2019, 01:38:41 PM
Students finally went back to class today.  Lori stood up to the teachers union and pretty much won.  5 year contract, 16% raise, nurses & social workers in every school (which she already supported anyway).  The CTU President Jesse Sharkey is one of the worst characters I've ever seen in this city.  Epic failure.  Another great thing, the CPS schools will now be able to participate in the IHSA Football playoffs starting tonight!


Title: Re: Chicago Megathread: With CTU on strike, Lightfoot lays out her budget
Post by: Donerail on November 26, 2019, 09:59:34 AM
You come at the king...