Talk Elections

Okay this was an idea I had and I wasn't sure if this belongs in the "What if?" section or here.

Basically what I wanted to do is make a President Forever candidate for everyone at this forum(who partcipates) then I will run everyone against a character I have created named Punching Bag a basic political fool and an aabsolute extreamist for the party he's with, with a 1 in every stat and a VP who only provides +1 experience and both the running mates will be from a state which is a stronghold for their party Hawaii for Dem.s and Alaska for Rep.s) Then based upon the electoral scores of the atlas candidates we will enter a playoff of sorts(top scoring dem v lowest scoring rep, etc and visa versa)

Now if for example we only have 8 candidates representing the 2 parties and the Dems win all the match ups the two dem.s with the lowest score will be knocked out and the two highest scoring Rep.s will advance...

Now because there is no UAC in the game your political party for this game must be either Rep. or Dem.

if you wish to join this game answer the following and read everything carefully

Party:Rep or Dem

First Name:

Last Name:This will be your nickname unless your first name is your nickname then well feel free to make up a last name

Home State

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 1-5
Charisma 1-5
Integrity 1-5
Stamina 1-5
Experience 1-5
Debating 1-5
Issue Knowledge 1-5

The VP bonus you get(choose an attribute to increase except for Debating or Stamina) and your VP's home state

Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.
//Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.
@

//Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.
@

//Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.
@

//Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.
@

//Campaign Finance Reform
Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform!
We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.
We need to put more power into smaller donors' hands.
The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient.
No campaign finance reform is needed.
@

//Ecology
The environment must be our first national priority.
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.
@

//Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.
@

//Free Trade
We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!
@

//Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!
@

//Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition.
@

//Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!
@

//Military Funding
Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace.
We should decrease military funding.
Keep military budget the same, look to be more efficient.
Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient.
We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.
@

//Military Intervention
Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'.
For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked.
Only if we are attacked.
Only if our national interests are threatened.
We can and should use our military might to further our own interests.
@

//Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.
@


//Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.
@

//Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.
@

//Social Security
No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.
No to private investment, increase funding.
Keep social security as it is.
Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments.
Let workers privately invest all social security payments.
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//Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
@




Okay thats it I will also post my answer to the questions after this.

Party:Rep.
First name:Michael R.
Last name:Larkin
Home State: California
Leadership-4
Charisma-5
Integrity-4
Stamina-4
Experience-2
Debating-3
Issue Knowledge-3

VP Name:Tom Ridge
VP Bonus:Experience
VP Home State:PA

Abortion:Center
AA:Center-Right
Balanced Buget:Center Right
Business Tax:Center-Right
Campiagn Finance Reform:Center-Right
Ecology:Center-Right
Education:Right
Free Trade:Center-Right
Gun Control:Center-Right
Same Sex Marriage:Center
Immigration:Center
Military Funding:Center Right
Military Intervention:Center Right
Personal Tax:Center Right
Public Health Care:Center
Renwable Energy:Center
Social Security: Center Right
Terrorism:Center-Right

great idea :)

Governor Hugh Bartlett of Iowa, aged 61

L: 4
C: 3
I: 3
S: 4
E: 5
D: 3
IK: 3

My VP's attribute is Charisma, and her name is Paula O'Brien, I'd like them to be from Maryland, I think that is heavy enough Democrat, but Hawaii would be OK. Ideally they'd be from Florida, but I think that is a bit unfair.

My positions (I am uninformed on some of the issues, like affirmative actioan and education, as the australian system is very different, but i've basically domne what i thought was right):

Abortion: Centrist
Affirmative Action: CL
Balanced Budget: In Australia I am center left-increase spending, but more efficiently. But as I am opposed to military spending increases, I'll say centrist.
Business Tax: CL
CFR: Faaaaaar left
Ecology: Centrist
Education: Centrist
Free Trade: Centrist
Gun Control: CL
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: Left
Military Funding: CL
Military Intervention: CL. You would have to be insane to argue against me on that issue, I will tear your head off ;)
Personal Tax: CL (Hey, I'm a leftwinger)
PHC: Left. It works here, I could get it to work there if  was president ;)
Renewable energy: CL
Social Security: I'm not sure of the current situation in the US, so Centrist.
Terrorism: Centrist

Just clarifying, I would like my VP to be from Florida, be OK with her being from MD, and put up with her being from Hawaii

ooh, run me against you :)

Democrat
Peter
Blerpiez
MA

VP
Leadership
Florida

3
3
4
4
3
4
4

L
CR
C
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
L
L
CL
CL
CL
L
CL
CL
CL

I'll get mine up later... :)

*bump* keep them coming... and we need more reps!

Republican
Josh
Craddock
North Carolina

V.P.
Gov. Jeb Bush
Florida
+1 Leadership
4
4
4
3
5
3


CR
R
C
C
L
CR
R
C
CR
CR
C
R
C
CR
C
C
CR
R

Party: Democrat
Title: Former Governor
Name: David Holland
State: New York
Age: 37


VP

Name: Martin Brodeur
HomeState: Minnesota
Integrity+1

4
3
2
5
2
4
4

C
C
CR
CL
CR
CL
CL
R
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
C
C
CL

when will we know more on this election thing?

party: democrat
title: former mayor
state: Maryland
name: kevin slattery
age: 35

VP: John Wrywas
VP attribute: issue knowledge
VP home state: georgia

4
3
4
4
3
3
3


abortion: CL
AA: CR
balanaced budget: CR
business tax:
CFR: CL
ecology: C
education: CL
free trade: CR
gun control: C
same sex marriage: CL
immigration: C
military funding: CL
military intervention: C
public health: CL
renewable energy: L
soc sec: C
terrorism: C

There are too many democrats.  More Republicans need to sign up

Party:Rep

First Name:  Chris

Last Name: Supersoulty

Home State: Pennsylvania

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 5
Charisma 3
Integrity 4
Stamina 4
Experience 3
Debating 3
Issue Knowledge 3

VP Name: Jennifer Petersen
The VP bonus:  Experience
The VP homestate: Illinois

Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.
//Abortion-CR

//Affirmative Action-CR

//Balanced Budget-C

//Business Tax-CR

//Campaign Finance Reform-C

//Ecology-C

//Education-CR

//Free Trade-CR

//Gun Control-CR

//Same-Sex Marriage-C

//Immigration-CL

//Military Funding-CR

//Military Intervention-CR

//Personal Tax-CR

/Public Health Care-C

//Renewable Energy-C

//Social Security-CR

//Terrorism-CR

Name: Gustaf Lundgren

Party: Democrat

Home State: Minnesota

Title: Governor

Age: 45

Leadership: 4

Charisma: 3

Integrity: 3

Stamina: 4

Experience: 2

Debating: 4

Issue Knowledge: 5


VP: John Edwards

VP Home State: North Carolina

Abortion: C

AA: R

Balanced Budget: CR

Busniess tax: C

CFR: CL

Ecology: C

Education: R

Free Trade: R

Gun Control: CL

Same-Sex Marriage: CL

Immigration: L

Military Funding: C

Military Intervention: CL

Personal Tax: C

PHC: CL

Renewable Energy: CL

Social Security: CR

Terrorism: CR

If you download the game do you have to buy it?

No, you can download the demo, but then you need to change the start date of the campaign to a later date to stop the game ending before the actual election

ok thanks

So wildcard when will you start the game?

Probably after more people get their stats up there...I'd guess...

oh ok cool

Oh, I'll bite...

Name: William Slayn (not my real one obviously ;) but that is where the 'S' in WMS comes from)
Party: Rep (for these purposes :) )
Home State: New Mexico

Leadership: 3
Charisma: 3
Integrity: 5
Stamina: 3
Experience: 3
Debating: 3
Issue Knowledge: 5

VP Bonus: Leadership
VP State: Missouri

Abortion: CR

Affirmative Action: R

Balanced Budget: R (deficit hawk ho!)

Business Tax: CR

Campaign Finance Reform: C

Ecology: C

Education: R

Free Trade: L

Gun Control: CR

Same-Sex Marriage: C

Immigration: C

Military Funding:CR

Military Intervention: CR

Personal Tax: CR

Public Health Care: CL

Renewable Energy: C

Social Security: CR

Terrorism: CR

I wonder how I'll do... ???

Party:Dem

First Name:Tony

Last Name:Roberts (not real)

Home State: Maryland

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 4
Charisma 3
Integrity 4
Stamina 4
Experience 2
Debating 4
Issue Knowledge 4

VP: Blanche Lincoln, +1 issue knowledge
VP Home State: Arkansas

Abortion: CL
Affirmative Action: CR
Balanced Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: CL
Ecology: CL
Education: C
Free Trade: CR
Gun Control: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: CL
Military Funding: CL
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax: CL
Public Health Care: CL
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: CR
Terrorism: L - just kidding. CL

Party: Rep/GOP
First Name: Richard
Middle: G.
Last: Arage (an assumed name obviously)
Homestate: Pennsylvania

Richard G. Arage
Leadership: 4
Charisma: 5
Intergrity: 4
Stamina: 3
Experience: 2
Debating: 4
Issue Knowledge: 3

VP Selection: Arizona (Ie McCain), Experience

Abortion-Center
Affirmative Action-Center
Balanced Budget-Center Right
Business Tax-Center Right
Campaign Finance Reform-Center
Ecology-Center
Vouchers-Center
Free Trade-Right
Gun Control-Center
Same Sex Marriage-Center Left
Immigration-Center Left
Military Funding-Center
Military Intervention-Center
Personal Tax-Center Right
Public Health Care-Center
Renewable Energy-Center
Social Security-Center Right
Terrorism-Center

Funny I just tried out this senerio useing the stats I posted against Gov. Punchin Bagg and this was the result that I came up with:


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Supersoulty: 495  57%

Bagg: 43  42%

I won New York, Connecticut, New Jersey and Marlyland, but lost Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!   Stupid governors bonus.

is there a multiplayer version of the game?

Okay so... You have no position on personbal tax or bussiness tax? If not I'll have to make you centerist on those issues.

Josh you only have ponts for 6 attributes and no VP I determined since you didn't use all 25 points that you meant the rest to go into issue knowledge(all 2 of em) Your VP I've decided will help your weakest attribute which would be issue knowledge..

And everyone keep signing up we'll find a way around there being more dem.s then reps or vice versa...

Can you run some "preseason" matchups?

just to see who is the strongest candidate early on?

So I have to pick a V.P.?

No I'm not planning to do that right now(I might howver change my mind) I will begin running candidates against the punching bag right now... As a matter of fact I just finished mine so that should keep some of us enertained for a bit..

Yes and what which attribute s/he helps you in(and what state this veep is from)... You also have to tell me if I added the 2 missing points to the correct missing attribute.

Yes you did, and Gov. Jeb Bush.. I will change it on my other post

Party:Republican

First Name: Jeff

Last Name:Wallnofer

Florida

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 3
Charisma 3
Integrity 3
Stamina 5
Experience 4
Debating 3
Issue Knowledge 4

Experience +1  Ohio Homestate


//Abortion- CR
//Affirmative Action - R
/Balanced Budge- CL
//Business Tax- C
//Campaign Finance Reform- CL
//Ecology- CR
//Education-R
//Free Trade-C
//Gun Control-CR
//Same-Sex Marriage-CR
//Immigration-CR
//Military Funding-C
//Military Intervention-CR
//Personal Tax-CR
//Public Health Care-CR
//Renewable Energy-C
//Social Security- CR
//Terrorism-R

If it isn't too late I'd like to give it a try...

Party: Republican
First Name: Scott
Last name: MHS2002
Home State: Virginia

Attributes:
Leadership 4
Charisma 3
Integrity 3
Stamina 4
Experience 3
Debating 5
Issue Experience 3

VP: The Great Biclops (ND)
Increase Charisma attribute

Abortion: R
Affirmative Action: R
Balanced Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: CL
Ecology: C
Education: CR
Free Trade:CR
Gun Control: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CR
Immigration: C
Military Funding: C
Military Intervention: CR
Personal Tax: CR
Public Health Care: C
Renewable Energy: C
Social Security: CR
Terrorism: CR

MHS2002,

Don't worry man you got here with plenty of time :)

Sweet, thanks a lot.

Am I too late?

because I would like to participate :)

Party: Democratic Party
First Name: Robert
Last Name: Frost
Home State: California
Leadership: 4
Charisma: 4
Integrity: 3
Stamina: 3
Experience: 3
Debating: 4
Issue Knowledge: 4

VP: Jay Gatsby
Home State: Pennsylvania
Increase: Experience

Abortion:
Centrist - Legal Abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.

Affirmative Action:
Right - Abolish all federal affirmative action programs

Balanced Budget:
Centrist - Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.

Business Tax:
Centre-Right - Reduce business taxation.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Centre-Right - The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient.

Ecology:
Centre-Right - Economic policies must come before environmental policies

Education:
Centrist - Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.

Free Trade:
Right - All markets should be open!

Gun Control:
Centre-Left - Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.

Same Sex Marriage:
Centrist - Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.

Immigration:
Centrist - Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.

Military Funding:
Centre-Right - Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient.

Military Intervention:
Centre-Right - Only if our national interests are threatened.

Personal Tax:
Centre-Right - Reduce income tax across the board.

Public Health Care:
Centrist - Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.

Renewable Energy:
Centrist - Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.

Social Security:
Centre-Right - Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments.

Terrorism:
Centre-Right - We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.

That is it, btw, if you are changing age as well, make me, 52, and give me John Edwards' picture :).

title - Gov. btw :)

Okay I'd like to announce deadline for player sign ups is noon pst tomorrow. This could get extended if we get a rush of people.

Party: Democratic
Title: Mr.
First Name: Chris
Last Name: Ilikeverin
Home State: Indiana
Age: 13 (Hey, I can do that :))

Leadership: 4
Charisma: 4
Integrity: 5
Stamina: 4
Experience: 1
Debating: 2
Issue Familiarity: 5

VP: Mark Dayton
Home State: Minnesota
Increase: Experience

Issues, in order

L
CR
CR
CL
L
CL
L
CR
CL
L
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
(!)

:)

Party:Republican
First name: Senator Andrew
Last name: Berger
Home State: New York
Leadership-4
Charisma-5
Integrity-3
Stamina-4
Experience-2
Debating-4
Issue Knowledge-3

VP Bonus:Expierience
VPHome State:TN

Abortion:Center
AA:Center-Right
Balanced Buget:Center
Business Tax:Center
Campiagn Finance Reform:Right
Ecology:Center
Education:Center
Free Trade:Center
Gun Control:Center-Right
Same Sex Marriage:Left
Immigration:Center-Left
Military Funding:Center Right
Military Intervention:Center Right
Personal Tax:Center Right
Public Health Care:Center
Renwable Energy:Center
Social Security: Center
Terrorism:Center-Right

*bump*

*bump*

okay theres only 3hrs. 16min. left to sign up....

If it's not too late, here is my info:

Party: Dem

First Name: Paul

Last Name: Nclib

Home State: North Carolina

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 3
Charisma 3
Integrity 3
Stamina 3
Experience 4
Debating 4
Issue Knowledge 5

*The VP bonus you get(choose an attribute to increase except for Debating or Stamina) and your VP's home state*

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) +1 Charisma

*Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.*

//Abortion
Left: Unrestricted access to abortions.

//Affirmative Action
Center-Left: Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.

//Balanced Budget
Left: A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.

//Business Tax
Center-Left: Increase business taxation.

//Campaign Finance Reform
Center-Left: We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.

//Ecology
Center-Left: Good environmental policies are good economic policies.

//Education
Center-Left: No school vouchers, increase federal funding.

//Free Trade
Center-Left: Some industries need to be protected.

//Gun Control
Center-Left: Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.

//Same-Sex Marriage
Left: Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.

//Immigration
Left: Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.

//Military Funding
Left: Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace.

//Military Intervention
Left: Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'.

//Personal Tax
Center-Left: Increase income tax for the rich.

//Public Health Care
Center-Left: Universal health care, whether public or private.

//Renewable Energy
Center-Left: We should focus on renewable energy sources.

//Social Security
Center-Left: No to private investment, increase funding.

//Terrorism
Center-Left: We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.

Party:  Republican

First Name:  Kenneth

Last Name:  KEmperor

Home State:  New York

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 3
Charisma 2
Integrity 5
Stamina 4
Experience 3
Debating 4
Issue Knowledge 4

VP:  Experience, Illinois

Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.

Affirmative Action
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.

Balanced Budget
Military spending is more important than the deficit.

Business Tax
Significantly reduce business taxation.

Campaign Finance Reform
Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform!

Ecology
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.

Education
School vouchers for anyone.

Free Trade
All markets should be open!

Gun Control
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!

Same-Sex Marriage
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.

Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.

Military Funding
We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.

Military Intervention
Only if our national interests are threatened.

Personal Tax
Reduce income tax across the board.

Public Health Care
The health care system should be completely private.

Renewable Energy
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.

Social Security
Let workers privately invest all social security payments.

Terrorism
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.

Okay registration for President Forever Champions is now closed

Registration for President Forever Atlas Champions is now re-opened.

Thanks Wildcard. This game is fine idea!

Okey here it comes!

Senator Huckleberry Finn

Party: Democratic
Home State: New York
Leadership-4
Charisma-4
Integrity-3
Stamina-3
Experience-4
Debating-4
Issue Knowledge-3
VP: Senator John Smith from Ohio
VP bonus: Debating

Abortion: Center-Right
AA: Center-Right
Budget: Center-Right
Business Tax: Center
Campaign Finance Reform: Center
Ecology: Center
Education: Center
Free Trade: Center
Gun Control: Center-Left
Same Sex Mariage: Center
Immigration: Center
Military Funding: Center
Military Intervention: Center-Left (But this one doesn't sound leftist. And I'm fairly conservative on military issues)
Personal Tax: Center
PHC: Center (Benefits for all children too)
Renewable Energy: Center-Left
Social Security: Center-Right
Terrorism: Center-Right

if we're gonna redo it, can my VP James T. Kirk be from Pennsylvania this time?

Yes and anyone else who wants to make a change can go ahead... My VP shall also change(no name yet but the person will be from OH) I'm going to change my stance on an issue as well...

what about part 2?

Because I had the older version of the game I decided its best if we start over so basically we will do the races against punching bag again soon.

Governor Hugh Bartlett, 61, of Iowa is changing a few things a tad.

Attributes:

Leadership: 4
Integrity: 4
Experience: 5
Issue Familiarity: 3
Charisma: 2
Stamina: 4
Debating: 3


VP:

State Senator Jack Regester of Georgia, +1 Charisma

Positions:

Abortion: C
Affirmative Action: C
Balanced Budget: C
Business Tax: CL
Campaign Finance Reform: C
Ecology: CL
Education: CL
Free Trade: C
Gun Control: CL
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: CL
Military Funding: CL
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax: CL
Public Health Care: L
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: C
Terrorism: C

OK, this is just for fun, I tried to make a platform that would sort of be a generic Sweden platform, to see how we seem to be compared to the US...this is sort of my guesses on certain issues, especially those who aren't that big in Sweden. You might say that it has a leftist lean, since the left is in power and always has been always will be. :)

NOTE: This is not my personal stands, my PF candidate remains unchanged for now.

I think it would look something like this:

Abortion:     C

AA:              R

BB:              CR

BT:               CL

CFR:             R

Ecology:       CL

Education:    R

Free trade:   R

Gun Control: CL

SSM:              L

Immigration:  CL

MF:                 CL

MI:                  L

PT:                  L

PHC:               L

RE:                 CL

SocSec:          CR

Terrorism:       CL  

oh ok.

*shakes head*

Silly Swedes.

:)

Could I change my position on affirmative action from R  to CR? Thanks

Hey what happened to my candidate? I can't found my result anywhere.

Don't know, but it's been out on hold for the time being, due to the update of the game.

I played as an independent, didn't move out of the state of  Kansas and switched every position I had the day of the election. Whilst these aren't the official result, here is the final score of that game:

()

Bush: 323
Finn: 215
Me: 0

he won California by 3% :(

You won Florida by the same margin, and spent the last day in FL (he was in CA)

With Ca, you would have won 270-268 :)

oops, obviously CA is meant to be blue :)

So this is obviously my race. Thanks! But how did I win Indiana and lose Ohio? My VP was from Ohio.

That is NOT your race, it is an unofficial one done by hughento :).

Where can I download more scenarios?

Ok heres mine....

Secretary Jim Fritz
Leadership: 4
Integrity: 3
Experience: 4
Issues: 4
Charisma: 3
Stamina: 4
Debating: 3

Running mate: in honor of Fritz Mondales Presidential run, I will run with Geraldine Ferraro of New York.  Bonus to integrity.

Abortion: Center-left
Affirmative action: Center-left
Balanced budget: Centrist
Business tax: Centrist
Campaign finance reform: Centrist
Ecology: Center-left
Education: Center-left
Free trade: Center-left
Gun control: Center-left
Same-sex marriage: Center-left
Immigration: Centrist
Military funding: Center-left
Military intervention: Centrist
Personal tax: Center-left
Public health care: Left
Renewable energy: Center-left
Social security: Center-left
Terrorism: Centrist

Fritz, I'll make it and run it against Bush :)

and you forgot terrorism, mate

There is mine. Please do me!

As Fritz, with Terrorism as CL (fits the pattern :D)

(without regionalism or dynamism)

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Fritz: 287 (65,649,256 votes (52%))
Bush: 251 (59,337,708 votes (47%))

Close states (within 5%):

California-Fritz by 3.5%
Oklahoma-Fritz by 3.3%

Virginia-Bush by 0.7%
Florida-Bush by 1.7%
Mississippi-Bush by 1.9%
North Carolina-Bush by 4.5%
Tennessee-Bush by 4.9%
Arkansas-Bush by 4.9%

it was a good game :)

I didn't do quite as well as you:

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Fritz: 276, 48% popular vote
Bush: 262, 51% popular vote

Historians rating of Fritz: Average

One difference in platform from what was posted earlier: my Fritz has Public Health Care as "Left" rather than "Center-Left".  Terrorism, which I forgot to post, I actually ran as Centrist, not Center-Left.

I ran Fritz with Leadership, Same-Sex Marriage, and Public Health Care in theme.  I ran ads on Leadership and Same-Sex Marriage (using insight gained through research).  Basically I wanted to see if a character running on a platform heavily emphasising same-sex marriage would beat Bush, and he did, electoral-vote-wise anyways.  :D

As Josh vs. Kerry/Edwards:

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Craddock: 272 (63,353,325 votes (50%))
Kerry: 266 (61,982,424 votes (49%))

Close states (within 5%):

Connecticut-Kerry by 4.5%
Iowa-Kerry by 3.3%
Florida-Kerry by 0.5%

New Mexico-Craddock by 1.9%
Texas-Craddock by 4.3%

Wow, I did not think i would win...

do you remember the number for north carolina?

you won by about 8%, i think.

You were wuinning in FL and CA until the last poll, he was winning in TX until election day :)

I basically sat you in TX for the last three days, and Jeb in NM. payed off, without both of them you'd've lost...

Well thanks.. you are a smart guy.

By the way, I have now modified my earlier post of Fritz's stats so that Terrorism is incuded- Centrist- and Public Health Care is Left, not Center-Left.  If anyone else wants to create the Fritz persona, that is how I would like it done.  :D

I still did better then all yall.

what was your result?

(I was the second best Democrat, but Gus did better then me of course :))

When WildCard did it i was 2nd best.. I think States was 1st. Not sure.

Right here on this page. :)

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=4238;start=60 (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=4238;start=60)

yeah, but that wasn't the 'real' one, sr :)

I bet I can beat your butt in that game too! Lets go! I could defeat ANY and I repeat ANY member of this Atlas forum head to head.

I will like to go up with StatesRights.. but me as a IND!! and have no dem. If you can do that??

No, you will lose badly. The Dems %'s just go as undecided and neither party can ever get them back. It's crazy really.

done deal.

My stances are on the first page. Whereabouts are yours?

We both run as ourselves, whoever does better wins-and no cheating :)

I would like to see the map.. that is all...

Oh please, StatesRights. I challenge you!

no me 1st. a mod vs. Right...

i'm just starting a game as me vs. Statesrights.

May the best timewaster win

*shakeshands*

BTW, i'm playing with Regionalism on and Dynamism off, FoW, Economy and Spies on.

i'm willing to give fortnightly updates.

On the first day:

Wallnofer: 185 (41%)
Bartlett: 293 (47%)
Tossups: 60 (NV, AR, TN, NC, OH, WV and VA)

10% undecided nationwide tho

5 weeks, 1 day left:

Wallnofer: 221 (41%)
Bartlett: 263 (48%)
Tossups: 54 (OR, OH and FL)

9% undecided nationally

3 weeks, 1 day left:

Wallnofer: 208 (45%)
Bartlett: 292 (48%)
Tossups: 38 (AZ, VA, WV and WI)

3% undecided nationally

1 week, 1 day left:

Wallnofer: 218 (47%)
Bartlett: 273 (46%)
Tossups: 47 (WI, MN and FL)

3% undecided nationally

Get whoever runs the thing to put you up against me. Have you put up your traits?

Regionalism can be a double-edged sword...it won me the southwest and helped signifcantly in the south, but lost me the inner midwest-including Illinois!

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Wallnofer: 215 (59,462,194 (47%))
Bartlett: 323 (65,078,176 (52%))

Close states (within 5%)

Virginia-Bartlett by 4.9%
South Carolina-Bartlett by 4.8%
Florida-bartlett by 4.5%
Nevada-Bartlett by 2.3%
Tennessee-Bartlett by 1.3%
New Mexico-Bartlett by 0.9%
Minnesota-Bartlett by 0.3%

Illinois-Wallnofer by 0.9%
ohio-Wallnofer by 1.3%
Mississippi-Wallnofer by 1.7%
Indiana-Wallnofer by 2.3%
Arkansas-Wallnofer by 3.1%
Oklahoma-Wallnofer by 3.5%
Wisconsin-Wallnofer by 4.9%

It was a very close election, but momentum went my way on the last day :)

Let's see how you did, SR :)

How did I lose BOTH my homestates? MD and Florida? I would sweep the entire south easily.

;D Me!

Do me and Nation.. or even you. I should win if it was me and you.

He played with regionalism which means your campaign has a lot of effect in areas you do it.

Regionalism must be a new aspect to the game.

Hey JFK and you play me and statesright.. play me as a dem or IND.

Okay I'm starting this back up we need two more Republicans if any new Democrats try to sign up I'm sorry but won't be possible to do unless we get 3 more republicans.

Another change will be that Punching bag will now have all his attributes set to 3 and will now ber reffered to as the "Generic Extream Opponent" mainly because with the new patch punching bag gets creamed by almost everyone in a near electoral sweep.

Wildcard you still have my info right?

Yes I do and it's in this thread!

ok just checking

Oh just 2 other notes first of all the reason this hasn't gotten done is I couldn't figure out how to re-load all the PF Characters I had made for everyone(they didn't appear on the list of candidates once I had ipdated the game) but I now I figured that out!

and the second note is I updated my issue stances and running mate.

Ok thanks for doing this.

Hey, quick question, can I have my running-mate from Michigan instead?  And like Josh said, thank you very much for doing this.

Ummm.... I'm sorry I already ran your race(you should look!) but in the next round I can do that.

I think you a good ticket.

Well, I just saw the results.  :)

Yes very good, I hope I do as good as you..

*bump* if we don't get anymore republicans I'm going to have to cut the two lowest scoring dem.s out.

Party:Rep.
First name:Paul W.
Last name:Brunsel
Home State: Iowa
Leadership- 3
Charisma- 4
Integrity- 4
Stamina- 3
Experience- 3
Debating- 5
Issue Knowledge- 3

VP Name: Mark Sanford
VP Bonus: Issue Knowledge
VP Home State: South Carolina

Abortion:Right
AA:Center-Right
Balanced Buget:Center Right
Business Tax:Center-Right
Campiagn Finance Reform:Center
Ecology:Center-Right
Education:Right
Free Trade:Center-Left
Gun Control:Center-Right
Same Sex Marriage:Center-Right
Immigration:Center
Military Funding:Center Right
Military Intervention:Center Right
Personal Tax:Center Right
Public Health Care: Center
Renwable Energy: Center Right
Social Security: Centrist
Terrorism:Center-Right

Party: Democrat
First name:Lun
Last name:ar
Home State:California
Leadership-5
Charisma-5
Integrity-5
Stamina-4
Experience-4
Debating-1
Issue Knowledge-1

VP Name: Mr. Rabbit
VP Bonus: Leadership
VP Home State: New Hampshire

Abortion:C
AA:CR
Balanced Buget:C
Business Tax:CL
Campiagn Finance Reform:L
Ecology:C
Education:CL
Free Trade:CL
Gun Control:C
Same Sex Marriage:CL
Immigration:CL
Military Funding:CL
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax:C
Public Health Care:C
Renwable Energy:CL
Social Security:CR
Terrorism:C

Lun ar/Mr. Rabbit all the way

How about a Republican/Democrat ticket? Can I run with Lieberman?

Yes.  Vice presidents oly have homestates and bonus attributes, not parties

Party: Democrat
First name:Peter
Last name:Bell
Home State:Massachusetts
Leadership-4
Charisma-4
Integrity-4
Stamina-2
Experience-2
Debating-4
Issue Knowledge-5

VP Name: Lord Emsworth
VP Bonus: Experience
VP Home State: Arkansas

Abortion:CL
AA: R
Balanced Buget:CR
Business Tax:C
Campiagn Finance Reform: CL
Ecology:CL
Education:CL
Free Trade:CR
Gun Control:CL
Same Sex Marriage:CL
Immigration:C
Military Funding:C
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax:C
Public Health Care:C
Renwable Energy:CL
Social Security:C
Terrorism:CL

We DONT need more democrats! We need more REPUBLICANS.

:P Center-right crazy person

Okay guys I am very sorry.... I said no more Democrats would be accepted... If we can get the right amount of republicans in here by monday I'll run all of you but it doesn't look good.