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Title: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: YRABNNRM on September 23, 2005, 01:31:50 PM
From Politics1...

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State GOP Chair Stephen Minarik proudly announced this week to the media there would be no GOP primary for Governor or US Senate next year because all of the candidates agreed to seek the nomination at next year's State Republican Convention and pass on making primary challenges. The only problem with that is ... well ... almost none of the candidates agree with his statement. A spokesman for former Secretary of State Randy Daniels -- a gubernatorial hopeful -- said "primaries are good for the Republican Party and democracy." All three US Senate candidates -- Ed Cox, Jeanine Pirro and John Spencer -- said through spokespersons that they had not made any promises to Minarik. "Those responses and others sparked disbelief from Minarik and other GOP officials, who said the candidates had concurred with the no-primary stance during candidate screenings over the summer," reported Newsday. The Erie County GOP Chair agreed with Minarik, noting "there wasn't a single candidate that said they would run a primary." Guess they all changed their minds -- apparently deciding a primary is preferable to a boss-controlled selection process.


This just shows how much the NYGOP doesn't want Weld unfortunatly.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Moooooo on September 23, 2005, 02:10:20 PM
I read about this yesterday and Im still confused. 


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: YRABNNRM on September 23, 2005, 02:13:39 PM
I read about this yesterday and Im still confused. 

No need to be confused. NY is ing retarded. Confusion over.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Defarge on September 23, 2005, 07:10:01 PM
I love NY :)


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 23, 2005, 08:08:30 PM
The NY Republican party doesn't believe in democracy. For the 1996 Presidential primary, a court ruled against their excessive requirements for getting on the ballot. Basically Pataki was hoping only Dole would be on the ballot.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Max Power on September 23, 2005, 09:29:50 PM
It is also statistically significant that they hate freedom.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Smash255 on September 24, 2005, 12:39:17 AM
It almost seems like they know they have no chance against Spitzer & know Hillary wins in a landslide so why even bother with a primary


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: YRABNNRM on September 24, 2005, 06:59:32 AM
It almost seems like they know they have no chance against Spitzer & know Hillary wins in a landslide so why even bother with a primary

I highly doubt thats their logic. Their logic is probably that if they do it this way Weld has no chance of being the nominee because it will be party bosses and such that choose the nominee, they dislike him because he rose to power without relying on the NYGOP.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: dazzleman on September 24, 2005, 07:11:25 AM
It almost seems like they know they have no chance against Spitzer & know Hillary wins in a landslide so why even bother with a primary

I highly doubt thats their logic. Their logic is probably that if they do it this way Weld has no chance of being the nominee because it will be party bosses and such that choose the nominee, they dislike him because he rose to power without relying on the NYGOP.

The NY GOP is a bunch of nincompoops who have run the party into the ground.  This is a perfect example of their logic.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: © tweed on September 24, 2005, 08:41:02 AM
I agree with Andrew, it's about killing the candidacy of Bill Weld.  They hold a hateful grudge against him because he isn't a prominent New York Republican.  It really doesn't make any difference as to the outcome of the Gubernatorial election, but it just is another example of the NYGOP digging their own grave.

The only guy that can save them from 20 years of ineptitude in the future is Rudy Giuliani.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: King on September 25, 2005, 11:43:16 PM
We'll never win in jew York again.  Period.  Strike three; game over.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Cubby on September 26, 2005, 12:08:26 AM
Why thank you King, for that witty statement......awkward silence.....

I admit I'm a partisan Democrat, but Weld is the kind of Republican I'd have no problem voting for. I only care about social issues, you can be as conservative on economics as you want, its all about the values to me. The fact that his own party sabotaged his federal nomination in the 90's shows that he is a bi-partisan figure who wouldn't force his own morals on his constituents like that scuzzy Mormon who's in MA now cough Romney cough.

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.




Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: 12th Doctor on September 26, 2005, 07:57:19 AM
We'll never win in jew York again.  Period.  Strike three; game over.

SNL:


Connie Chung (dubed over voice): Mrs. Gingrich, what did your son Newt say about New York City?

Mrs. Gingrich:  I believe he called it "Heimy Town".


LOL classic


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2005, 02:45:01 PM

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.

Actually Weld v. Spitzer wouldn't be close at all.  Polls show Spitzer winning by about 45% now (although alot of that's due to no name recognition for Weld).  Nevertheless I wouldn't think Weld could get within 20% by Nov. 2006.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Smash255 on September 26, 2005, 04:51:45 PM

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.

Actually Weld v. Spitzer wouldn't be close at all.  Polls show Spitzer winning by about 45% now (although alot of that's due to no name recognition for Weld).  Nevertheless I wouldn't think Weld could get within 20% by Nov. 2006.

In other years Weld might be a somewhat decent candidate with a shot, but the NY GOP is so badly damaged right now, this won't be close.  Weld will make it closer than others will, but its still going to be a very solid Spitzer win (around 20 points or so)


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: YRABNNRM on September 26, 2005, 05:13:39 PM

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.

Actually Weld v. Spitzer wouldn't be close at all.  Polls show Spitzer winning by about 45% now (although alot of that's due to no name recognition for Weld).  Nevertheless I wouldn't think Weld could get within 20% by Nov. 2006.

In other years Weld might be a somewhat decent candidate with a shot, but the NY GOP is so badly damaged right now, this won't be close.  Weld will make it closer than others will, but its still going to be a very solid Spitzer win (around 20 points or so)

It won't be hard for Weld to distance himself from the NYGOP if he was to get the nomination.


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Smash255 on September 26, 2005, 05:19:44 PM

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.

Actually Weld v. Spitzer wouldn't be close at all.  Polls show Spitzer winning by about 45% now (although alot of that's due to no name recognition for Weld).  Nevertheless I wouldn't think Weld could get within 20% by Nov. 2006.

In other years Weld might be a somewhat decent candidate with a shot, but the NY GOP is so badly damaged right now, this won't be close.  Weld will make it closer than others will, but its still going to be a very solid Spitzer win (around 20 points or so)

It won't be hard for Weld to distance himself from the NYGOP if he was to get the nomination.

Thing is guilty by association even if not directly connected that R next to him will hurt.  Just think of what has happened in recent years in Nassau County, where Republicans with little or no connection to Gullota & the GOP machine have suffered.  Or the recent loss in NY Assemblt district where the GOP candidate (whose name I'm drawing a blanlk on now) had no connections to the Crookhaven crowd, but the R next to his name (guilty by same party association) is what sunk him


Title: Re: NYGOP Chairman: No Primaries for NY in 2006.
Post by: Cubby on September 26, 2005, 07:32:23 PM

I'd love a Weld vs. Spitzer race, both candidates would be great. It would make up for CT not having a competitive race next year.

Actually Weld v. Spitzer wouldn't be close at all.  Polls show Spitzer winning by about 45% now (although alot of that's due to no name recognition for Weld).  Nevertheless I wouldn't think Weld could get within 20% by Nov. 2006.

Yeah it would be closer by election day. I meant that I personally would like a Weld/Spitzer race. Even if the NY GOP is divided, they would still get some semblance of an act together or else risk being out of power for a long time. I don't know if anyone more conservative than Pataki would ever stand a chance at winning anyway.

By the way, the NY GOP were the ones who tried to keep McCain off the primary ballot in 2000, they suck!