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Title: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on August 27, 2018, 09:40:18 AM
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/republican-poll-shows-tight-race-for-montana-senate

Rosendale 47
Tester 45

Aug. 20-22, 600 likely voters.

I think this is an R internal, but not sure.

Edit: Yes, this was conducted for the NRSC.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Politician on August 27, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
Lol, but this race will probably be close.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Zaybay on August 27, 2018, 09:50:25 AM
Cue Atlas calling this race lean R


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on August 27, 2018, 09:51:59 AM
The difference between the House and the Senate is that for the Senate, Republicans can occasionally scrounge up internals worth releasing.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Sir Mohamed on August 27, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
Junk poll, Tester is favored in this race. Still lean D.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: IceSpear on August 27, 2018, 09:54:04 AM
A poll showing both Rosen and Rosendale ahead in the same week. I'm surprised the forum hasn't spontaneously combusted yet.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Zaybay on August 27, 2018, 09:54:32 AM
The difference between the House and the Senate is that for the Senate, Republicans can occasionally scrounge up internals worth releasing.
Thats a rather good point. Its possible that we are more favoured for that seat than previously thought.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: MT Treasurer on August 27, 2018, 09:55:11 AM
It’s definitely closer to Tester +3 or something like that right now, but the idea that this race is Safe D or less competitive than NJ, MN or WI is nothing short of ridiculous.

A poll showing both Rosen and Rosendale ahead in the same week. I'm surprised the forum hasn't spontaneously combusted yet.

Haha, I love it.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Skye on August 27, 2018, 10:02:54 AM
It's time for more MT polls. This is a competitive race. Just because it's MT doesn't mean it has to fly under the radar.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on August 27, 2018, 10:08:22 AM
It's time for more MT polls. This is a competitive race. Just because it's MT doesn't mean it has to fly under the radar.




Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Xing on August 27, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
It’s a Republican internal, but clearly Democrats can’t take this seat for granted. We don’t want another 2016 when Democrats are declaring victory long before the election.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: MT Treasurer on August 27, 2018, 10:23:22 AM
Rosendale has been hit with an unprecedented and constant barrage of attack ads which the GOP hasn’t countered effectively, he’s being heavily outspent and he’s losing the ground war badly. The fundamentals still favor Democrats in this race, but maybe if the NRSC/outside GOP groups started putting actual effort into winning this race and defining Tester like they did with Heitkamp instead of wasting $$$ in NV and basing their target list on Charlie Cook's garbage "analysis"/Senate rankings it could become more competitive. Still Lean D for now, I’m not getting my hopes up here. ND, IN, MO and FL are better targets, but WV and MT definitely need to be contested by the GOP.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Yellowhammer on August 27, 2018, 10:48:16 AM
Fake News. Unbeatable Electoral Titan Jon Tester will win with 97% of the vote.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on August 27, 2018, 11:07:11 AM
It’s an internal but the dems and reps shouldn’t write it off


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: GM Team Member and Senator WB on August 27, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
Edge of likely and lean D since this is an R internal


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Pandaguineapig on August 27, 2018, 11:13:50 AM
Tester signaling a surprising willingness to vote for Kavanaugh may suggest he also finds this race close


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on August 27, 2018, 11:46:53 AM
Tester signaling a surprising willingness to vote for Kavanaugh may suggest he also finds this race close

Quit kidding yourself, Tester will vote No.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Devout Centrist on August 27, 2018, 12:03:45 PM
It's over folks. Safe R now.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on August 27, 2018, 12:11:43 PM
Close race here.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Strudelcutie4427 on August 27, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Pure toss up


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Ebsy on August 27, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
Their Missouri "poll" was not actually a poll, merely a model these morons came up with. I hope it is not entered into the database.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on August 27, 2018, 01:09:01 PM
Their Missouri "poll" was not actually a poll, merely a model these morons came up with. I hope it is not entered into the database.

This one claims to be a real poll of 600 likely voters from Aug. 20-22.  (I've edited the OP to include that information.)


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Greatblueheron on August 27, 2018, 01:20:16 PM
If Tester is losing, then Democrats are probably losing around 5 Senate seats.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: MT Treasurer on August 27, 2018, 01:33:08 PM
If Tester is losing, then Democrats are probably losing around 5 Senate seats.

Hmm, losing NV and AZ, gaining IN, MO, ND, MT and FL = R+3. Not that implausible if 2016 trends continue.

And no, Tester isn’t going to vote for Kavanaugh, the #resistance base in MT (unlike ND) is actually fairly sizable and a major reason why Tester has such a high floor. As far as the database is concerned, people here were quick to add that garbage from Gravis and Morning Consult to the database, so I see no reason why this one shouldn’t be added, especially since it’s not even a model like that MO "poll".


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: SnowLabrador on August 27, 2018, 01:45:58 PM
MT Treasurer has a point. The country is getting more polarized - in 2016 the winning party in each Senate race was the same as the winning party in the presidential race in each state.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on August 27, 2018, 02:05:32 PM
Tester is over. Move on, Dems. The rural collapse continues unless they wise up and change their ways.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Beet on August 27, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
Fits with my theory of the "conditional-wave" (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=239545.msg6365203#msg6365203) - since Montana is a mostly rural state, Trump's 20-point advantage in the state will carry Matt Rosendale through.




Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on August 27, 2018, 02:17:31 PM
Fits with my theory of the "conditional-wave" (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=239545.msg6365203#msg6365203) - since Montana is a mostly rural state, Trump's 20-point advantage in the state will carry Matt Rosendale through.



The Dems have completely and utterly prevented themselves from ever winning the Senate again by spitting on rurals time and time again, forgetting that each state provides 2 Senators regardless of whether they have the Dems' favoured demographics or not.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Skye on August 27, 2018, 02:26:32 PM
Hmm, losing NV and AZ, gaining IN, MO, ND, MT and FL = R+3. Not that implausible if 2016 trends continue.

It'd be shocking because of the implications.

But I actually wouldn't be that surprised if it happens.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 27, 2018, 02:27:50 PM
Hmm, losing NV and AZ, gaining IN, MO, ND, MT and FL = R+3. Not that implausible if 2016 trends continue.

It'd be shocking because of the implications.

But I actually wouldn't be that surprised if it happens.
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You left out MS, TN and TX


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: RINO Tom on August 27, 2018, 02:55:45 PM
Tester is over. Move on, Dems. The rural collapse continues unless they wise up and change their ways.

What fun would that be?  You wouldn't have anything to make terrible posts about then.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: RussFeingoldWasRobbed on August 27, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
Tester is over. Move on, Dems. The rural collapse continues unless they wise up and change their ways.

What fun would that be?  You wouldn't have anything to make terrible posts about then.


Title: Re: MT-WPA Intelligence (R) - Rosendale +2
Post by: Mr. Illini on August 30, 2018, 07:17:34 AM
Throw it right in the trash