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Title: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 17, 2018, 11:07:43 AM


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Zaybay on September 17, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
Wow, Sinema's numbers are really collapsing.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Jeppe on September 17, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
Wow, Sinema's numbers are really collapsing.

The last few poll results have been Sinema +4, Sinema +3, McSally +1, McSally +3 in that order. If anything, she's consolidating her numbers.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: junior chįmp on September 17, 2018, 11:13:59 AM
But but she ran ads that were centrist


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on September 17, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
Very nice!


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: TheRocketRaccoon on September 17, 2018, 11:14:41 AM
But but she ran ads that were centrist

Her pink tutus and positive campaign!!!


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on September 17, 2018, 11:14:59 AM
Bow down before your Queen:

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It is good to see a quality poll like this with a solid lead for her, hopefully this means she is not in fact blowing it.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Xing on September 17, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
Watch the next Arizona poll show McSally up 2, and Atlas will freak out again and say that Arizona is a permanent GOP state all along and that Sinema never had a chance. Anyway, still competitive with a narrow advantage for Sinema.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 17, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
Go Sinema!


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on September 17, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Favorables-

Sinema 48/30% +18
McSally 43/36% +7


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 17, 2018, 11:57:40 AM
Sienna is in driver's seat


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Skye on September 17, 2018, 12:06:09 PM
I don't know why people put too much stock into two junk pollsters anyway.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on September 17, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Woah. Sinema is winning Maricopa County 51-39%


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Politician on September 17, 2018, 12:14:37 PM
Remember when UncleSam was writing Sinema off based on one Gravis poll? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: GM Team Member and Senator WB on September 17, 2018, 12:17:10 PM
Lean D, this is currently an outlier but still good news for SInema.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Suburbia on September 17, 2018, 12:19:03 PM
Tossup.

This will be one of the marquee Senate races in 2018 along with TN, FL, PA, MO, ND, WV, IN, TX.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Comrade Funk on September 17, 2018, 12:21:00 PM
Tossup.

This will be one of the marquee Senate races in 2018 along with TN, FL, PA, MO, ND, WV, IN, TX.
Bob Casey is up by 15+


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 17, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
Polls are collapsing, due in part, Sinema is a Gabby Giffords type, and what's going on with Kavanaugh, voters will punish he GOP if nomination is rushed through


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: President Johnson on September 17, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
If God Queen Sinema wins by anywhere near 7 points, she should be carrying Maricopa County pretty easily?


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Webnicz on September 17, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
A lot of Sinema/Ducey voters



Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: TarHeelDem on September 17, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
Solid Lean D race, as it has been for awhile.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on September 17, 2018, 03:37:16 PM
If God Queen Sinema wins by anywhere near 7 points, she should be carrying Maricopa County pretty easily?

Yes.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: 2016 on September 17, 2018, 03:39:30 PM
Woah. Sinema is winning Maricopa County 51-39%

That is precisely the reason why I don't entirely trust this Poll. SSRS is a totally unknown quantity here...completely new to Statewide Polling.

Sinema is not ahead in Maricopa County by 11 Points. That is absolutely ludicrous from CNN/SSRS.

Consider this:
The Democrats are trying to pull off a Doug Jones type of victory here. Arizona hasn't elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1988 when Dennis DeConcini won Re-Election for the last time.

If Sinema gets elected it's not because of how she stands on policies but because she is pretty.

Maybe Republicans should play the sexsism card a bit.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on September 17, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Woah. Sinema is winning Maricopa County 51-39%

If Sinema gets elected it's not because of how she stands on policies but because she is pretty

Looks like we have some incels on Atlas


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 17, 2018, 06:25:28 PM
Woah. Sinema is winning Maricopa County 51-39%

That is precisely the reason why I don't entirely trust this Poll. SSRS is a totally unknown quantity here...completely new to Statewide Polling.

Sinema is not ahead in Maricopa County by 11 Points. That is absolutely ludicrous from CNN/SSRS.

Consider this:
The Democrats are trying to pull off a Doug Jones type of victory here. Arizona hasn't elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1988 when Dennis DeConcini won Re-Election for the last time.

If Sinema gets elected it's not because of how she stands on policies but because she is pretty.

Maybe Republicans should play the sexsism card a bit.

Guess what. After krazey's ban a seat just opened in my Ignore Club.
Welcome and make yourself comfortable.


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: cvparty on September 17, 2018, 06:29:01 PM
Woah. Sinema is winning Maricopa County 51-39%

That is precisely the reason why I don't entirely trust this Poll. SSRS is a totally unknown quantity here...completely new to Statewide Polling.

Sinema is not ahead in Maricopa County by 11 Points. That is absolutely ludicrous from CNN/SSRS.

Consider this:
The Democrats are trying to pull off a Doug Jones type of victory here. Arizona hasn't elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1988 when Dennis DeConcini won Re-Election for the last time.

If Sinema gets elected it's not because of how she stands on policies but because she is pretty.

Maybe Republicans should play the sexsism card a bit.
i gasped


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: morgieb on September 17, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Wow, Sinema's numbers are really collapsing.

The last few poll results have been Sinema +4, Sinema +3, McSally +1, McSally +3 in that order. If anything, she's consolidating her numbers.
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Webnicz on September 17, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
expect a poll to be released soon showing Mcsally ahead. sounds like they are preforming an internal.

https://twitter.com/joeferguson/status/1041427359105081344


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on September 17, 2018, 07:49:27 PM
expect a poll to be released soon showing Mcsally ahead. sounds like they are preforming an internal.

https://twitter.com/joeferguson/status/1041427359105081344

I look forward to the panic.


Title: AZ: SSRS: Sinema with Lead in Arizona
Post by: ElectionAtlas on September 17, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
New Poll: Arizona Senator by SSRS on 2018-09-15 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2018/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4120180915272)

Summary: D: 50%, R: 43%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/09/17/rel1_az.pdf)


Title: Re: AZ- CNN: Sinema +7
Post by: NOVA Green on September 17, 2018, 09:15:36 PM
Regardless of the experience of this polling firm when it comes to Arizona, they are sub-contracted to CNN, so I would imagine they would be held to the methodological standards expected by a major "brand name" customer...

1.) First thing that strikes me is that the gap remains +7 Sinema in both the RV and LV models....

Normally one might expect there to be a bit of a divergence in these numbers, especially in a State like Arizona, where Latino Turnout tends to be significantly lower in Midterm elections than even in Presidential Year elections. This is obviously a good sign for Sinema.

2.) If we look at the "mind made up numbers vs might change mind", again we see that there are significantly more McSally leaning voters that might change mind versus Sinema leaning voters in both the RV and LV models.

3.) Trump Approve / Disapprove numbers would appear to be a bit skewed and different from what we might expect, especially among likely voters....

Now, it could be that there is a bit of an "enthusiasm gap" there, and a good chunk of the "no opinion" voters polled, are those that although they aren't approving of Trump's performance, still tend to maybe lean towards "somewhat approve", but aren't crazy about all of the extra shenanigans of Trump is well known for.

4.) Those 65+ numbers for Sinema are devastating (54-42 D). This is obviously what is skewing the LV numbers....

Additionally the 45+ numbers run (50-45 D).....

We have seen in various other polls, not to mention recent elections, Senior Voters starting to swing hard against Trump, especially as a result of Health Care policies. This is one of the major reasons for dramatically increased support for the Affordable Care Act in National Polls.

I would not discount the impact that this is having in the AZ US-SEN race, and the death of Senator McCain might well have increased the salience of this issue within Arizona in recent weeks.

5.) As I have posted on other threads regarding Arizona, Maricopa County really is ground zero of any hypothetical Democratic Statewide win within the State.

The (54-40 D) numbers are absolutely devastating for McSally, and even if we were to normalize that by MOE for the subsample, a Democratic win in Maricopa likely makes it virtually impossible for a Republican victory, considering traditional numbers even in off-year elections for Non-Maricopa County parts of the State.

6.) There is no potential silver lining for McSally in this poll whatsoever, in a state with a huge number of registered Anglo Independents that frequently vote Republican, when looking at numbers from Household Income, to Age, to region of Arizona....

We will see what the next poll brings, but a huge chunk of the likely voters have made up their minds on this election, and those that are still swingy tend to be swingy in favor of Sinema....